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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it is Booker, it is Striker, and it
is our friend Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You know you had told us, because we've done this before,
that this was your very first radio station visit. Yeah,
have the rest of the visit since our initial visit?
Have they all fallen apart for you? Have they held
up to this standard?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Nothing? Nothing like, nothing like the standard at which you've said.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Thank you, bars high.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Everyone else sucks and we are all.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Sorry, sorry everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I feel like Joe Kirie just said that with a wink,
like you guys were like six out of ten.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
There was really no bar sound big major.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I didn't even remember he met us before, Yes he did.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm just saying, Joe knows us very very very well.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Joe knows Booker and Striker.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Joe, how are you feeling today? There's been some news
with your previous band and your involvement with the band
in a new song, and like this is pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Then we got you right here right now?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so most animal. Yeah, I made another
record with these guys.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We did this.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's a like almost the ten year anniversary of an
album that we had made previously before. So we were
all just kind of in the same place at the
same time, thought let's do another one for fun for
us and Yeah, first songs out today called Laskabaye. Really
happy to be involved and happy for yeah the whole team.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Congratulations on that.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
The initial reason, not to get too deep in the weeds,
that you stepped away from that band years ago was
because of the acting, right.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Yeah, it was kind of taking me in one direction
and just really time commitment wise, I sort of being
pulled away. So for those reasons, it kind of made
sense for us to part ways. But they're my great
friends and are a really important part of my life,
and it just kind of kind of worked out that
(01:51):
we could make.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
This project together.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
And it was an amazing experience and I'm excited for
everyone to hear it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
How was the hustle, because you know, we're looking at
your schedule. Of course, we saw you last weekend at Coachella.
Then they're watching he did Kimmel, Yeah, he saw the
actual I was right up front, man, I watched it
on streaming. That Couchell Couchella is exactly what I did.
But then you've had many shows in between, You're still
doing a lot of interviews, like you're full in it.
(02:18):
This isn't like a vanity side project. You're on top of.
This is this schedule everything you thought it would be.
Is it what you hoped it would be?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, I mean it's rigorous, it's full on.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
But you know, I'm I'm really like supporting this thing
that I spent a lot of time doing also, so
it feels like all kind of cool stuff and worthwhile.
And yeah, it's like a you know, the music side
of things is like a passion of mine. So it
doesn't it feels like a labor of love, I guess.
And uh, you know, the hustle's real. The schedule is packed.
(02:48):
But I like to work, and I like working on
things that I'm interested in.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
What did you take away from weekend one of Coachella?
You're doing the Friday of Coachella again. I was right
there watching you did awesome. What'd you think of the
festival plane being there? Did you spend time? Did you
walk around?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I definitely walked around. Saw a bunch of saw this
band called Speed, which was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's not the muscled guy kind of Oh my gosh.
It was like intense. Yeah, kind of fun to be
ye that.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, I saw Lady Gaga, saw some of Parcels Marias.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, I saw a bunch of amazing acts.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Wore a lot of sunscreen, drank a lot of water,
kind of like, uh, checked all the Coachella boxes.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, it was it was great.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Are you getting to have any fun because you're working
a lot and I know your work isn't exactly like
digging ditches.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Or anything like, certainly not.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's it's a good time. But outside of it, like,
can you park all the music, all of the everything
and go out with some friends still or have a
good time?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, for sure, Yeah, definitely. We're having a really nice time.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
And selfishly, you know, this part of this tour is
really just like spending a lot of time with friends
I wouldn't get to spend time with.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So it's you know, the.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Joe Band, all the Post Animal guys as well, and
we're all just there's a lot of crossover there and
we're all just hanging out and you know, visiting all
these different cities.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's it's there's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah. The Crux is your third full length as Joan.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You and I have talked before them a podcast, whether
one person was listening or millions.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
You would keep making the music.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The songs that you wrote for the album did you
did you do those in the house in Atlanta while filming?
Did you make time when you weren't filming to write songs?
How was the schedule for that? That was all over
the place. It was definitely some in Atlanta and then
other job.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I was in Calgary for part of that time, and
then uh, I was in Rome shooting which was amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Man, unlucky me.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah, and then would go to New York and kind
of like take the ideas that I had been working
on in Flush Mount and so yeah, it was kind
of like, uh yeah, it's like a little diary that
that album. It's a little journal of kind of the
things that I was going through my own personal life
and then and kind of bringing it all together.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So yeah, you have this easiness about you. I don't
know if it was always there or if it's this
like watching you perform. I don't want to say like
you're you know, lacks of daisical about it, but you're
just cool about it. Is any of it stemmed because
you have two incredibly successful careers and how are you
(05:30):
going to manage both of them in the future.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Well, I guess the act is working because I'm you know,
the nerves are for sure, they're there. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
I feel like you are your own worst critic always
and there's always room for improvement. And you know, especially
at these shows, people people pay a lot of money
to come to a show, get a babysitter, have a
(05:54):
night out, take the time. It's like a big thing,
you know, So you do want to make it worth
people's while and worth the time and energy that they've
spent to get there. So and then in terms of
juggling both things, I mean, I'm lucky to have one
career that is allowing me to work as an artist
in a creative way. So yeah, I think it's really
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about just leading with some gratitude and then also following
what really does interest you, because I do feel like
if you're doing something that is of.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Interest, you're gonna do your best work, you know. I
have a question about bands that you loved as a kid.
Oh yeah, sure, who were and I'm not talking about
at twenty, like thirteen to seventeen range, Yeah, and what
were you into ac DC? Wow?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I loved ac DC had a Big Ac DC Live
at Donnington poster on my wall. Nice led Zeppelin, the Beatles.
Obviously I remember finding out about daft punk around that age.
I got a laptop for my grandpa, like an old laptop, right,
and just I don't know how, maybe lime Wire, some
(07:04):
just downloaded Discovery and it's blown away by that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Who was your first live show that you went to?
Bruce Springsteen the Boss?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That with your family?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
He was my whole family at the Tweeter Center in
Massachusetts and it was like a big outdoor venue like
like you know, families with blankets and stuff. And again
his shows are like three hours, right, yeah, so at
the time, you know, by hour like two, I was like,
can we go home?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
What is just what is it with the classic rock roots?
Because you're talking about your favorite bands and we're a
little older than you, maybe two three years.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But I'm six months older, four years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Whatever it may be. But we have the same experience
like we like I still remember driving around of my
friend's Camaro, you know, listening to a CDC led Zeppelin, right,
Like what is it?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Why is every generation can still go back to that?
Why do you think it is?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Because they rule, they're great.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
There's obviously music in my generation that I think is
amazing as well, But.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I may just like the indelible mark that they made
upon like guitar music. I'm like a big fan of
the guitar and I think a lot of people in
my generation saw School of Rock and they that left
some sort of impression on people. To be honest with you,
I've talked about this with a lot of different people,
and that was kind of like a seminal movie. It
(08:33):
just combined like humor and music. And I don't know,
there's something really like just shiny about that about that movie.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You're the Be's Knees, Yeah, Black Lawrence. Yeah, like a
touchstone for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So I looked at your playlist the other night, not
from Coachella, but one of your own shows. They're like
eighteen songs on there we did. That's one hell of
a list man. Yeah, did you do the same songs
every night?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Or do you change it up? How does it work
for you?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
It's still pretty early, so we're you know, part of
we're new to this and a part of playing a
live show is understanding how things work together and how
things play. And so yeah, we're changing it up every
night and taking a song in, putting things something out,
switching up the order. For sure, We're trying to work
up more songs, bring back old songs. I think it's
(09:28):
like a constant for us. It's you know, I don't
like to be stagnant on something. It's for me very
very exciting to constantly be changing things up, and I
think it keeps it fresh for us and then also
for the audience too.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You mentioned that your your own worst critic. I mean,
I think any artist would say that, what are you
critical about? Like do you watch back your Coachella performance?
Did you walk off that stage and go damn this?
Or what is it about your performances that you get
a little nitpicky about.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I did not watch it.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yes I do that, And I think it's about a
bunch of different things.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Sometimes it's technical.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
You know, you can have a really kind of sloppy
technical show, but maybe like the spirit of the whole
thing feels really good, and vice versa. You kind of
like maybe you are technically on, but it feels kind
of like stagnant. And I think it's about like for me,
the pursuit of those things together where you feel like
you know, you're really technically locked.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But it's the same thing as like acting.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
You're kind of like after like the kind of like
truth of the moment feeling where you feel like you're
really connected to the words that you're saying in the
music that you're putting out and like you're you're taking
everybody on that ride and you can also feel it
yourself if it's kind of like working. So it's happened
a couple of times, and that's the feeling.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That you're that makes it all worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Is like that that sort of you know, hingley feeling
that you get when you you feel like you're really
being honest about.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It and when you're not, how long does it take
to shake it off? Like if you're two three songs,
you're like, I'm not connecting and you know it.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Sometimes what happens then, well, sometimes you just got to
get through it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Sometimes fake it till you make it.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, you do have to do that, and it doesn't
feel good to do that sometimes, but the show must
go on.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Not every show is going to be perfect.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
But I do think, you know, I think about any
artist Taylor Swift, for example, there's no way every single
show on her massive tour, she was on every night,
but she's like a professional in a way. And can
you know, for the audience's experience every night is amazing,
you know what I mean? But I think it requires
(11:42):
you know, that attention to detail and the pursuit of
pursuit of connecting to reconnecting with the songs every night.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Obviously, when you're acting in a show like Stranger Things,
they're giving you the words, they're setting the light in,
they're doing the background. You do your work and you
leave and then it's up to them how it looks. Yeah,
with your music, it's all on you. Is it the
same sort of pressure or do you feel different pressures?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Are no pressures?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It's different? I mean it is different for sure. I Mean,
when you're.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Embodying some character in a show or a movie, there's
a little bit of a veil between you and you
know this thing that you're doing. But you know, for
this music outfit this time, that doesn't exist as much.
So maybe it's a little bit more exposure and a
little bit more weight on someone's shoulders, or because you
(12:38):
are speaking from the heart and making a lot of
decisions on your own. You know, you're in charge in
a lot of ways, and there's a lot of fun
with that, but then also pressure. So that's why I
think the two things actually go really well together, because
one is really being a part of a team and
helping someone else kind of see their vision, and then
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this side is kind of of you know, I have
an idea of what I would like and I get
to kind of see you through. So I really love
doing both. It's crazy, really lucky.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, Striker was born here in Los Angeles, and I,
like you, was born on the East Coast and also
spent a lot of time in the South. You working
in Georgia. I was in South Carolina, kind of moved
to the midwest, Chicago, my brother lives there and lived
in Kansas City, moved to Los Angeles. So you and
I kind of see the world differently than this guy does.
What is your impression of Los Angeles when you when
(13:31):
you forget the industry, when you just come here, what
what what stands out to you?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Honestly?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Like the mountains is my favorite part about Los Angeles
and the nature and being able to when I lived
out here, it's great to be able to be so
close to the ocean, and there's there's something like about
the sun here that's a little bit different and it's
kind of like a golden thing going on, you know,
the Golden State. But I feel like, yeah, the actual
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just the nature of this place is really inspiring.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Does it bring out creativity in you here? Because millions
of people come here, Yeah, to create no matter what
it is.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Do you feel it when you're here? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We did.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
A lot of the tracking for the second record that
we did here and there's just like a different pace also,
and a lot of history obviously, which is very inspiring,
I think to be around places that, you know, where
amazing things have happened.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So yeah, that's inspiring.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
What new artists have you connected with personally that are like, hey, man,
I'm feeling what you're doing and you're kind of making
these connections out there. Have you had a shot other
than Coachella, because I know you're working every damn night now.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, we're you know, it's cool to meet people who also,
you know, I think are really amazing. Like at Coachelle,
I met these guys who playing the band Parcels, which
is an amazing group and saw their show and met
them and a bunch of really great guys. And that's
like an extremely cool situation about this whole thing. To
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be able to like listen to an artist and then
all of a sudden, you're, you know, playing in a
festival with them.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So that's that's been very cool. Joe's done something really cool.
I think a lot of his songs, at least a
few have gone viral. But when you go see him,
it translate when you do the live show, because you're welcome,
you have so much pride in it, and you're really
good at it. There's some artists who do great in
their bedroom by putting out one song and you're like,
I want to go see this person.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's like, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well that may be of him. They may go, well,
he's this actor that sort of makes music on the side.
It's like, well maybe the other way around, Like he's
really a musician at heart. Yeah, he loves and you
watch the show, you see the many layers. It's not
just let me do the exact song the way it
was recorded. There's real art there. You know. It's great.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It's just like you know, at the end of the day,
I guess I just love being creative in whatever way
and whatever group. And I'm sure if music are acting
order to not work out, there'd be some other thing
that I would really love to do.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And who knows, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Maybe world radio host you could be our third mic
about this book or Striker and Joe.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
The guy in the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
We go to Joe, we got a four five, one
on one build up here, slow and go.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
On the right. Six Like, wow, it's really beautiful. That
wraps up.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The first hour of our interview. Now we go into
our second hour with Joe.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yes, that's it, man, dude, thanks.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
For doing this. Next coming back. Typically people don't they
They come once and they're like, we're done with this.
Uh he's Joe, we're Booker and Striker and listen to
his music. There you go.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So good?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, so good. I really love that