March 20, 2025 • 23 mins
Hi. My Name Is. With those four words, the world was turned upside down in 1999. A new rapper who went by Eminem, bursted onto the scene. And hip hop, music in general, and the world would never be the same. Check out Brady and Dan's discussion about how influential 'The Slim Shady LP' truly was. Do you put Eminem in your personal Mt. Rushmore of rappers? Enjoy!
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Controversy, eminem, the awkwardness.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You have the single albums coming out in November. What
are you most excited about with this new album?
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Nothing not pre Here's your host, Brady Broski.
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There's just a lot of us consuming every imaginable pop
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, right, that was yeah we started. Well, you just
basically summarized my life in five words. That's right and
checkball and speed dating cornhole.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And I believe he is going to lean on me
a little bit on this episode of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Maybe it's had, Yeah, a little bit. You're the M
and M expert. It is dark. We're talking the candy.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it is dirty. Dan Ginsberg favorite Eminem Peanut, that's
the goat.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But okay, so this is actually.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Good lead in because before we get into Eminem, we
need to do something.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You don't know this is coming. But I have a
gift for you.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Let me just like gifts sometimes sometimes they do not.
Your gifts are on the last episode, Look what you Got?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You stated that you had somehow never had nerds gummy clusters,
and we got some comments from listeners about how could
that could that be possible?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, so I need you live on the mic. If
I can figure out how to open this bag? Are
you gonna have video?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Are you gonna Are you gonna try free throw this?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Should we do the.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
We got cameras.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I need to try nerds, gummy clusters. We went rainbow
flavor over berry flavor.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Is that is that?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay? I think this is the most okay rainbow flavors.
So this is from our last episode, which is all
about snacks.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, and I have some other some other listener feedback
for you, but I wanted.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
To start with this. Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm ready?
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Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Here we go?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Off the mouth? Did give me a little more?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
No, apologies, studio, iHeart. Oh that's too short again? One more?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We got this? We got this?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, I think the the monitors throwing you off the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, here, you can take the bag if you want.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, I don't need those thoughts. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You got the nerds on the outside, you got the
gummy on the inside.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
My mind is blown. Best of both worlds. Like we said,
jay Z, just Timberlake.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You took some heat for calling cheese it's the goat snack.
In fact, one listener wrote, his opinions are now entirely invalid.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That seems strong.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's drastic.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. But then listener one star, no, we're flawless by start.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Then another listener wrote, he has won me back with
the cheese dip crackers and kudos.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh so I went away for a little bit, but
totally redeem my Another listener said, regular cheese.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's absolutely not extra toasty. I'm an ET stand I
think ET stands for extra toast. It does, and I realized,
I don't think we said extra toasty. I think we
said extra crispy. But toasty is the word. That was
the magic word.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I stand by it. I still say cheeze. It's the go.
It's the George Washington of snacks, because a lot of
times when you're at the vending machine, you don't have
all these fancy options like extra et.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I've never seen extra toasty in a vending Yeah. Today
we are talking about one of my favorite artists of
all time, and you mentioned at the top. I'm kind
of the Eminem expert. However, yesterday, when we're chatting about
the show, you brought it to my attention. This big
Eminem fan over here, guy goes all, it's talking about
the debut album.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You said, let's do his debut album, and I started
doing my research and I'm like, wait, this debut album
was not even on a major label, and I've never
heard of it before.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I've never heard of it either until yesterday when you
came to the studio last night. I did not listen
to the debut album. Now spend most of my time
researching this one.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If you hear me chewing, it's because i'm eating nerds coming.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, that's that's that's really good, Daniell. Why don't go
ahead and eat while we're talking. That's great. Didn't your
mother teach you anything?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So yeah, so today we're talking about Eminem's technically second album,
but really the album that started launched his career, the
major label, the major label deal, the album that propelled
not just him but his sound and really took hip
hop to a weird, weird place that I don't think
(05:33):
they were prepared for. We're talking about the Slim Shady LP,
which dropped in nineteen ninety nine. Yep, right, it was
right around this time. I believe. Third Thank You, it
is an album that won the Grammy for Best Rap Album.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It did.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
My name is best rap solo performance yep, Rolling Stone
Magazine on the list's greatest albums of all time not
just hip hop, and sold over ten million copies worldwide,
which is the interesting part of all that seventy percent
of that is in the US. So he's really one
of those unusual American artist. When you think American artists,
(06:13):
you don't think like eminem you know, you think like
the bands from America, or you know, maybe like a
country artist. You don't think, you don't think hip hop, right,
Like seventy percent, that's a lot's huge just worldwide.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I would say he.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean he also kind of brought hip hop back
to the mainstream. I think it had its mainstream moment
early nineties, and then I feel like that was kind
of Wave two.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You think, I think a bit.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I mean, I think you can talk, you know, I
think there's racial elements of that where, you know, the
critics would say the fact that he was white maybe
made he was presented with less barriers to access.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Maybe than some some black rap artists.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But yeah, I mean I think he I would say
he was embraced by pop more fully and quickly. I mean,
the you know, black rap artists in the nineties who
had pop success. I feel like it was a much
longer road to success for them compared to eminem who
was kind of there right away. I mean, My Name
Is was being played on pop radio within a couple
(07:15):
of weeks after it blew up.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I will argue though, that in the mid to late nineties,
we were starting to see a shift. If you could
look at any like Billboard Hot one hundred chart from
say ninety seven to ninety nine, true dominated by rap
and hip hop. I just think it was just so
damn different. It was just so like out there. And
first question I want to ask off the top, would
(07:38):
this album put out in twenty twenty five, Would this
be accepted based on the content?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, well there would. There would be a lot of controversy.
There'd be a lot of.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Because there was controversy then and it was a nineties
right right.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But then you know, he came back last year and
sort of redeemed himself well, but he made a lot
of the same time types of cop it's sort of
half mocking his old self but also half doubling down.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, what I love about it is while the rest
of the hip hop world was really rapping about big
pimpin and money flaunting the reference of Hose after Hose,
he was really the first artist to kind of highlight
the fact that he had self esteem issues, which is
the opposite.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It was a very very honest album about his own.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Issues and it got deep, but also it got weird.
It got weird. There's a lot of stories that were
being told. But the genius of this album before we
do like a deep dive on it, is this album
was created because his first album that we talked about, Infinitive,
I want to say Infinite, was a failure. So he
(08:50):
went back to the drawing board and created this alter
ego named slim Shady Shady. So this is the slim
Shady LP, the alter ego of Marshall mathers Akam and
I mean, it's got a lot of names. So from
that standpoint, artistically, it's kind of genius. He's playing a character.
He's a storyteller. He's a storyteller, so in other words,
(09:12):
he's saying all these controversy things, all these songs. But
you know what you can say is that's not me.
That's slim Shady, that's my alter ego. At the time,
we didn't. We didn't really know that much about it.
We just I just heard him. I was just like,
there's this kid rapping and the things he's saying. I'm like,
oh my god, is he Is he really going to
kill his girlfriend? This's gonna happen? So pretty interesting when
(09:33):
you when you stop and think that there's really three
layers to it, right, Eminem, Marshall Mathers, and this alter ego,
slim Shady. So, first of all, initial thoughts on Eminem,
do you remember hearing him for the first time?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I mean, first off, his voice was so unique.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like his are you talking his flow or like his tone.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well flow also, but I'm talking like the actual tone
is it the high pitched kind of and the way
but then also yeah, the flow, the way he would
take you know, do multiple rhymes not always at the
end of a line like we were used to, not
just in hip hop, but in a lot of different genres.
If if you had rhyming lyrics it was the end
(10:10):
of one line, rhyme with the end of one line.
He would like string string rhymes together like in the
middle of lines that would then flow into each other.
It was It was super unique and cool at the time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I influenced hip hop culture and just.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
One of the biggest rappers now and probably for decades
to come. So where do you remember where you were
in life? Like, you're probably in high school. I was
in high school. Okay, so that must have been because
I was in college. I was college. Yeah, I could
tell you the exact moment. So we would get together
because TRL was so huge at that time. So we
would get together. Me and one of my dormmates. Shut up, Gumby,
(10:53):
what's up, Gumby? We would get together. We watched TRL,
like you know.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like studying cool cool college dudes.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Do instead of studying or hanging out and going to parties.
And no, it's like that three o'clock Eastern You just
you know, and what else are you gonna do? So
turn on? I was always a music fan, So watch
a little TRL with Carson Daily and on comes this
video my name is and we just both look at
each other like what the F is this? So fast forward?
We're like, okay, we need more. You can google Woa's
(11:24):
eminem you couldn't. We couldn't wait till the next day.
So what did we do? The next best thing? You
would do. In nineteen ninety nine, we got in Gumby's car.
We drove to the mall that night to record town
to see if we could find Eminem music. And I
remember vividly the dude behind the register was like, who
are you guys talking? You're like the fifth person today
(11:46):
that's asked about this eminem, So it must I basically
I invented eminem me and Gumby did. But I just
remember he had that profound of an impact on that
it got us to leave the dorm, which never happened
ever and uh and go search out for more than
twenty dollars on a CD. Yeah, so we had to
(12:06):
wait because I don't think the album was out. I
think the video came first for My Name Is, which
is the biggest hit off the album, probably the only
the only I mean not only big like pop hit,
only big only big top forty hit, right, which I
mean the TRL.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's sort of to my point earlier about I mean,
he he was blowing up on those like mainstream pop
sources like TRL, just.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like so quickly.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, like you said, I mean, he went from nobody
to the record store owner not knowing his name, to
just total frantic and nobody could get overnight.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, good point.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So his more you could go viral on TikTok oh God.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, his message it was it was was pretty relatable
to a white boy like me, right, didn't have that
rapper that. I mean, we had been a lot of ice,
but that was just like more comical, right, but this
was this was kind of satire as well, but it
was more.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like different making fun of himself and a character than.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Like, yeah, don't dark too, yeah right, very dark, very
dark way. And I think you know, he thrived on
just the storytelling, Like we that's going to be a
common theme here. When I heard it and I had
to go get it, I wanted more because yeah, here's
this guy that just sounds so different. His flow is
(13:19):
so unique. And fast forward twenty six years later, he's
on a lot of people's Mount Rushmore's of Rappers of
All Time, which I don't want to know yours right now,
but we should get into that later on where you
talk time for Another Time or where you play seven
m We can talk about that later. So here we go.
We have the Slim Shady LP sells ten million copies
(13:40):
in the US. What was your favorite track on the
did you go back and listen?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I did?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, I mean I I gotta go guilty conscience, And
I think we haven't really talked about doctor Dre's influence
on all of this yet, which obviously is a huge
part of it. But I mean, you know, Dre was
a primary producer on the album, obviously a long established
you know, rap icon, way before eminem was ever a thing,
(14:06):
but just the lyrical flow, like the back and forth
of the storytelling on that between the cause drey Drey
is featured on that track as an actual rapper on
top of being a producer.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I feel like that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean, you know, my Name Is is the memorable
and you know, the most memorable one for sure. But
I would I would say, in terms of like favorite
long term track on the album.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's got to be it great, I would say my
Name Is close. Second would be ninety seven Bonnie and Clyde. Okay, yep, yeah,
I mean it's a song about killing his baby's mama.
I mean, I see I was the first of many many.
I mean I was really gotta think, like eighteen year
old Brady, this is just this is this is really
music porn to me? It's it's making me laugh, it's
(14:53):
making me feel, it's making me rap along. I know
every I want to know, like I want to know
every lyric because in about two months, the entire Westfield
State College is going to be blasting this right in
time for spring. Right. But yeah, ninety seven, Bonnie Clyde
to have that Haley was on the track, little Baby Haley.
(15:13):
Fun fact, he had to lie to Kim to get
Haley on the track. He lied because they had dual
custody or partial so he said he was taking Haley
to chuck e cheese.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And he took her to the studio, took her to.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The studio instead and had her be featured on a
song about killing her mom.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So, however, really didn't go great in the next custody hearing.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah no, she Kim sued Marshall for slander with the song,
which one would do for twenty five million dollars and
walked away with about sixteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I would Well, that's a big topic in twenty twenty
five is obviously you got Drake suing Kendrick. You have
you know all the controversy with weather wrap. Lyrics are
permissible as evidence and clearly they will, in my opinion,
should not be situations. Yes, situations, sure, but it's it's
(16:11):
obviously this is storytelling, and you can't assume that everything
being told in a rap lyric is being meant to
be told the way it actually happened.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It's very fair. There's a lot of skits, yes, a
lot of skits, but there's a public service announcement. There's
prank calls. I think Paul was a p It was
literally a print call. There's another one on there. I
forget the name of it, but it's literally, Oh Ken Kenniff,
Uh that is I forget whose daughter it was. I'll
(16:38):
have to look it back up, but there isn't. Oh,
Henry Winkler's daughter Uh is featured on that, and he
had to take her out to lunch to get her
permission to use her audio really on that track wild
At least he got her permissions. Where's Where's Rah? Chancing
(17:00):
rock Bottom? Another great track. If I had I will,
I'll put that probably in my top five. And then
you go down to the bottom. Here there's it's the
last track on the album, Still don't give a fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh yeah, we can swear we're not on the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We can say the word public. This one is interesting
to me because he I didn't realize until I did
the research yesterday. He was good buddies with another fellow
Detroit rapper, up and coming rapper named kid Rock. Kid
Rock is the responsible for the scratching. Please tell me
they're not still friends. I don't know. I doubt it,
(17:37):
just based on based on the direction they both kind
of went. Eminem went into hiding kid Rock is he
does his thing, whatever that is, whatever his thing is.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
As you this is a radio guy.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
When you saying if you if you wrap my name
is in your head, are you wrapping the explicit album lyric?
Or are you wrapping the because I have the radio
because I was such a radio guy even from high school. Like,
I know both, but I think like intrinsically when I
hear it come on, I'm thinking like like they replaced.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Violence with primus.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh yes, yeah, well that was kind of the MTV version,
Yeah right, yeah, which was the radio vers, which was
the radio vers. It wasn't you know a lot of
rap that preceded that. If it crossed over, they would.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Just edit out the words.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But he had full clean version, so there was there
were no skips. It was every word was replaced with
a more PC.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Word, right right? How are you gonna breast Phoebe? Mom?
You ain't got no right? I think for me, I
would sing or rap explicit because once I had once,
I had once say the CD is all over. That's
the only thing I listened to.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And also on top of that, going to the radio thing,
there was no radio station in my market that played that. Really,
we didn't like the Top forty station didn't touch it.
We did not have a hip hop station in the
area yet. That didn't come in until I want to say,
two thousand and three first hip hop station. So the
radio market I was in, which is Springfield, mass Heart
(19:10):
for Connecticut, it was it was very They were very
adult leaning and less about the hip hop one.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
So your point, it peaked at number twenty nine on
pop rias. That's so yeah, my name is only peaked
at number twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I would have guessed. I would have guessed top ten,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
The real Slim Shady only peaked at fifteen, and Stan
only peaked at thirty one.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Then without me went to number one.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Wow. Yeah, and this really this catapulted him. Like we
said in the top YEP, the next album the Marshall
Mathers LP that just like blew up. I mean that
was everywhere. We'll get into that one in another episode.
So overall, I would say that this was just such
an influential album. It launched his career. A guy who
I consider he is in my mount rushmore of rappers
(19:55):
is Eminem. I don't need to know the other three.
So yes or no. Now you're doing the math. It before.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
He's he's on the edge. He's on the bubble.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
He's not an automatic find out on Selection Sunday if
he has enough quad one wins.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That is that is a reference that is going to
pull over most people.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Being a Michigan guy, was it was it bit was?
Was he a big deal where you grew up?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And the you know what's funny is I remember the
Red Wings. Obviously they they were winning Stanley Cupps left
and right.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
In those days. The local radio station did.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Like, you know, parody Eminem songs about the Red Wings,
and I mean they played there were when he I
want to say, like ninety nine, two thousand, yep, like
you were hearing an eminem song two three times an
hour in the Detroit market.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I mean, that's what you're supposed to do when you
have a local artist like that. Right, I'm sure that
was Kanye here circa two thousand and six, right, right,
that's awesome, that's pretty cool. So the real Slim Shady
LP top to bottom twenty songs sold ten million copies.
Won a Grammy had to bring it up in the
podcast today just because of influence alone.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And by the way, that's ten million physical copies. Yeah, Like,
I know, ivy thing's very different today with how streaming
and digital are counted, but like ten over ten million
physical printed CDs that were purchased for about twenty dollars apiece,
so expensive.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Who had that money? We did have that two hundred
million dollars in CD purchases.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You do you agree with Grammy dot com. They said
this is one of the most influential rap albums of
all time because it made spaces for different narratives.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Right in hip hop, right, I think there's so much
that you see in hip hop and in other genres
that was like inspired by, Yeah, the uniqueness of this album,
Like we talked about, you know, the flow, the storytelling,
not that you know those were there in different elements before,
but I think it definitely changed the game in.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
A lot of love for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Love it awesome discussion on one of my favorite artists.
Not first album a popular opinion?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Did you hit the wrong button again? Didn't really have
an unpopular.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Now I have to make one up.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Okay, make it if it better not be about nerds,
gummy unpopular opinion.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Nerds gummy clusters aren't that great?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Okay, cancel him?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Snacks and I really really struck a nerve with some
of the listeners on Snacks.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That said, people.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Until next time, Lucky eighteen, no clue. We'll talk about
it won't be fashioned, but we want to know about
what you think about eminem and and this album and
where you rank him. We will we will do the
mount rushmore of rappers at some point, because I think
that one's gonna be a good one and it's gonna
have already no mine, it's gonna have all basically nineties
nineties rappers. So there you go. Follow us on Instagram,
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I'm at Brady Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I met Dan g zero four eight two yeah, and
we're on YouTube, so you can if you want to see.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
If you want to.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Imagine Brady catching gummy clustered in his mouth, you can
do it in your mind if you want to see it. Yeah,
the athletic powist. That was that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It was truly incredible. Ye.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And it's perfect for this this weekend. We get a
lot of college basketball coming up. We're just getting ready,
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Speaker 1 (00:44):
You have the single albums coming out in November. What
are you most excited about with this new album?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
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no Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Yes, this is the Brady One
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There's just a lot of us consuming every imaginable pop
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The only person I've ever met. I'm playing Earth to
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, right, that was yeah we started. Well, you just
basically summarized my life in five words. That's right and
checkball and speed dating cornhole.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And I believe he is going to lean on me
a little bit on this episode of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Maybe it's had, Yeah, a little bit. You're the M
and M expert. It is dark. We're talking the candy.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it is dirty. Dan Ginsberg favorite Eminem Peanut, that's
the goat.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But okay, so this is actually.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Good lead in because before we get into Eminem, we
need to do something.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You don't know this is coming. But I have a
gift for you.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Let me just like gifts sometimes sometimes they do not.
Your gifts are on the last episode, Look what you Got?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You stated that you had somehow never had nerds gummy clusters,
and we got some comments from listeners about how could
that could that be possible?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, so I need you live on the mic. If
I can figure out how to open this bag? Are
you gonna have video?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Are you gonna Are you gonna try free throw this?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Should we do the.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
We got cameras.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I need to try nerds, gummy clusters. We went rainbow
flavor over berry flavor.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Is that is that?
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Okay? I think this is the most okay rainbow flavors.
So this is from our last episode, which is all
about snacks.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, and I have some other some other listener feedback
for you, but I wanted.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
To start with this. Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm ready?
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Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Here we go?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Off the mouth? Did give me a little more?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
No, apologies, studio, iHeart. Oh that's too short again? One more?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We got this? We got this?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, I think the the monitors throwing you off the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, here, you can take the bag if you want.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, I don't need those thoughts. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You got the nerds on the outside, you got the
gummy on the inside.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
My mind is blown. Best of both worlds. Like we said,
jay Z, just Timberlake.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You took some heat for calling cheese it's the goat snack.
In fact, one listener wrote, his opinions are now entirely invalid.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That seems strong.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's drastic.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. But then listener one star, no, we're flawless by start.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Then another listener wrote, he has won me back with
the cheese dip crackers and kudos.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh so I went away for a little bit, but
totally redeem my Another listener said, regular cheese.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's absolutely not extra toasty. I'm an ET stand I
think ET stands for extra toast. It does, and I realized,
I don't think we said extra toasty. I think we
said extra crispy. But toasty is the word. That was
the magic word.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I stand by it. I still say cheeze. It's the go.
It's the George Washington of snacks, because a lot of
times when you're at the vending machine, you don't have
all these fancy options like extra et.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I've never seen extra toasty in a vending Yeah. Today
we are talking about one of my favorite artists of
all time, and you mentioned at the top. I'm kind
of the Eminem expert. However, yesterday, when we're chatting about
the show, you brought it to my attention. This big
Eminem fan over here, guy goes all, it's talking about
the debut album.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You said, let's do his debut album, and I started
doing my research and I'm like, wait, this debut album
was not even on a major label, and I've never
heard of it before.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I've never heard of it either until yesterday when you
came to the studio last night. I did not listen
to the debut album. Now spend most of my time
researching this one.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If you hear me chewing, it's because i'm eating nerds coming.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, that's that's that's really good, Daniell. Why don't go
ahead and eat while we're talking. That's great. Didn't your
mother teach you anything?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So yeah, so today we're talking about Eminem's technically second album,
but really the album that started launched his career, the
major label, the major label deal, the album that propelled
not just him but his sound and really took hip
hop to a weird, weird place that I don't think
(05:33):
they were prepared for. We're talking about the Slim Shady LP,
which dropped in nineteen ninety nine. Yep, right, it was
right around this time. I believe. Third Thank You, it
is an album that won the Grammy for Best Rap Album.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It did.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
My name is best rap solo performance yep, Rolling Stone
Magazine on the list's greatest albums of all time not
just hip hop, and sold over ten million copies worldwide,
which is the interesting part of all that seventy percent
of that is in the US. So he's really one
of those unusual American artist. When you think American artists,
(06:13):
you don't think like eminem you know, you think like
the bands from America, or you know, maybe like a
country artist. You don't think, you don't think hip hop, right,
Like seventy percent, that's a lot's huge just worldwide.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I would say he.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean he also kind of brought hip hop back
to the mainstream. I think it had its mainstream moment
early nineties, and then I feel like that was kind
of Wave two.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You think, I think a bit.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I mean, I think you can talk, you know, I
think there's racial elements of that where, you know, the
critics would say the fact that he was white maybe
made he was presented with less barriers to access.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Maybe than some some black rap artists.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But yeah, I mean I think he I would say
he was embraced by pop more fully and quickly. I mean,
the you know, black rap artists in the nineties who
had pop success. I feel like it was a much
longer road to success for them compared to eminem who
was kind of there right away. I mean, My Name
Is was being played on pop radio within a couple
(07:15):
of weeks after it blew up.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I will argue though, that in the mid to late nineties,
we were starting to see a shift. If you could
look at any like Billboard Hot one hundred chart from
say ninety seven to ninety nine, true dominated by rap
and hip hop. I just think it was just so
damn different. It was just so like out there. And
first question I want to ask off the top, would
(07:38):
this album put out in twenty twenty five, Would this
be accepted based on the content?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, well there would. There would be a lot of controversy.
There'd be a lot of.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Because there was controversy then and it was a nineties
right right.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But then you know, he came back last year and
sort of redeemed himself well, but he made a lot
of the same time types of cop it's sort of
half mocking his old self but also half doubling down.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, what I love about it is while the rest
of the hip hop world was really rapping about big
pimpin and money flaunting the reference of Hose after Hose,
he was really the first artist to kind of highlight
the fact that he had self esteem issues, which is
the opposite.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It was a very very honest album about his own.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Issues and it got deep, but also it got weird.
It got weird. There's a lot of stories that were
being told. But the genius of this album before we
do like a deep dive on it, is this album
was created because his first album that we talked about, Infinitive,
I want to say Infinite, was a failure. So he
(08:50):
went back to the drawing board and created this alter
ego named slim Shady Shady. So this is the slim
Shady LP, the alter ego of Marshall mathers Akam and
I mean, it's got a lot of names. So from
that standpoint, artistically, it's kind of genius. He's playing a character.
He's a storyteller. He's a storyteller, so in other words,
(09:12):
he's saying all these controversy things, all these songs. But
you know what you can say is that's not me.
That's slim Shady, that's my alter ego. At the time,
we didn't. We didn't really know that much about it.
We just I just heard him. I was just like,
there's this kid rapping and the things he's saying. I'm like,
oh my god, is he Is he really going to
kill his girlfriend? This's gonna happen? So pretty interesting when
(09:33):
you when you stop and think that there's really three
layers to it, right, Eminem, Marshall Mathers, and this alter ego,
slim Shady. So, first of all, initial thoughts on Eminem,
do you remember hearing him for the first time?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I mean, first off, his voice was so unique.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like his are you talking his flow or like his tone.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well flow also, but I'm talking like the actual tone
is it the high pitched kind of and the way
but then also yeah, the flow, the way he would
take you know, do multiple rhymes not always at the
end of a line like we were used to, not
just in hip hop, but in a lot of different genres.
If if you had rhyming lyrics it was the end
(10:10):
of one line, rhyme with the end of one line.
He would like string string rhymes together like in the
middle of lines that would then flow into each other.
It was It was super unique and cool at the time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I influenced hip hop culture and just.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
One of the biggest rappers now and probably for decades
to come. So where do you remember where you were
in life? Like, you're probably in high school. I was
in high school. Okay, so that must have been because
I was in college. I was college. Yeah, I could
tell you the exact moment. So we would get together
because TRL was so huge at that time. So we
would get together. Me and one of my dormmates. Shut up, Gumby,
(10:53):
what's up, Gumby? We would get together. We watched TRL,
like you know.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like studying cool cool college dudes.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Do instead of studying or hanging out and going to parties.
And no, it's like that three o'clock Eastern You just
you know, and what else are you gonna do? So
turn on? I was always a music fan, So watch
a little TRL with Carson Daily and on comes this
video my name is and we just both look at
each other like what the F is this? So fast forward?
We're like, okay, we need more. You can google Woa's
(11:24):
eminem you couldn't. We couldn't wait till the next day.
So what did we do? The next best thing? You
would do. In nineteen ninety nine, we got in Gumby's car.
We drove to the mall that night to record town
to see if we could find Eminem music. And I
remember vividly the dude behind the register was like, who
are you guys talking? You're like the fifth person today
(11:46):
that's asked about this eminem, So it must I basically
I invented eminem me and Gumby did. But I just
remember he had that profound of an impact on that
it got us to leave the dorm, which never happened
ever and uh and go search out for more than
twenty dollars on a CD. Yeah, so we had to
(12:06):
wait because I don't think the album was out. I
think the video came first for My Name Is, which
is the biggest hit off the album, probably the only
the only I mean not only big like pop hit,
only big only big top forty hit, right, which I
mean the TRL.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's sort of to my point earlier about I mean,
he he was blowing up on those like mainstream pop
sources like TRL, just.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like so quickly.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, like you said, I mean, he went from nobody
to the record store owner not knowing his name, to
just total frantic and nobody could get overnight.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, good point.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So his more you could go viral on TikTok oh God.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, his message it was it was was pretty relatable
to a white boy like me, right, didn't have that
rapper that. I mean, we had been a lot of ice,
but that was just like more comical, right, but this
was this was kind of satire as well, but it
was more.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like different making fun of himself and a character than.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Like, yeah, don't dark too, yeah right, very dark, very
dark way. And I think you know, he thrived on
just the storytelling, Like we that's going to be a
common theme here. When I heard it and I had
to go get it, I wanted more because yeah, here's
this guy that just sounds so different. His flow is
(13:19):
so unique. And fast forward twenty six years later, he's
on a lot of people's Mount Rushmore's of Rappers of
All Time, which I don't want to know yours right now,
but we should get into that later on where you
talk time for Another Time or where you play seven
m We can talk about that later. So here we go.
We have the Slim Shady LP sells ten million copies
(13:40):
in the US. What was your favorite track on the
did you go back and listen?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I did?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, I mean I I gotta go guilty conscience, And
I think we haven't really talked about doctor Dre's influence
on all of this yet, which obviously is a huge
part of it. But I mean, you know, Dre was
a primary producer on the album, obviously a long established
you know, rap icon, way before eminem was ever a thing,
(14:06):
but just the lyrical flow, like the back and forth
of the storytelling on that between the cause drey Drey
is featured on that track as an actual rapper on
top of being a producer.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I feel like that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean, you know, my Name Is is the memorable
and you know, the most memorable one for sure. But
I would I would say, in terms of like favorite
long term track on the album.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's got to be it great, I would say my
Name Is close. Second would be ninety seven Bonnie and Clyde. Okay, yep, yeah,
I mean it's a song about killing his baby's mama.
I mean, I see I was the first of many many.
I mean I was really gotta think, like eighteen year
old Brady, this is just this is this is really
music porn to me? It's it's making me laugh, it's
(14:53):
making me feel, it's making me rap along. I know
every I want to know, like I want to know
every lyric because in about two months, the entire Westfield
State College is going to be blasting this right in
time for spring. Right. But yeah, ninety seven, Bonnie Clyde
to have that Haley was on the track, little Baby Haley.
(15:13):
Fun fact, he had to lie to Kim to get
Haley on the track. He lied because they had dual
custody or partial so he said he was taking Haley
to chuck e cheese.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And he took her to the studio, took her to.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The studio instead and had her be featured on a
song about killing her mom.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So, however, really didn't go great in the next custody hearing.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah no, she Kim sued Marshall for slander with the song,
which one would do for twenty five million dollars and
walked away with about sixteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I would Well, that's a big topic in twenty twenty
five is obviously you got Drake suing Kendrick. You have
you know all the controversy with weather wrap. Lyrics are
permissible as evidence and clearly they will, in my opinion,
should not be situations. Yes, situations, sure, but it's it's
(16:11):
obviously this is storytelling, and you can't assume that everything
being told in a rap lyric is being meant to
be told the way it actually happened.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It's very fair. There's a lot of skits, yes, a
lot of skits, but there's a public service announcement. There's
prank calls. I think Paul was a p It was
literally a print call. There's another one on there. I
forget the name of it, but it's literally, Oh Ken Kenniff,
Uh that is I forget whose daughter it was. I'll
(16:38):
have to look it back up, but there isn't. Oh,
Henry Winkler's daughter Uh is featured on that, and he
had to take her out to lunch to get her
permission to use her audio really on that track wild
At least he got her permissions. Where's Where's Rah? Chancing
(17:00):
rock Bottom? Another great track. If I had I will,
I'll put that probably in my top five. And then
you go down to the bottom. Here there's it's the
last track on the album, Still don't give a fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh yeah, we can swear we're not on the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We can say the word public. This one is interesting
to me because he I didn't realize until I did
the research yesterday. He was good buddies with another fellow
Detroit rapper, up and coming rapper named kid Rock. Kid
Rock is the responsible for the scratching. Please tell me
they're not still friends. I don't know. I doubt it,
(17:37):
just based on based on the direction they both kind
of went. Eminem went into hiding kid Rock is he
does his thing, whatever that is, whatever his thing is.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
As you this is a radio guy.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
When you saying if you if you wrap my name
is in your head, are you wrapping the explicit album lyric?
Or are you wrapping the because I have the radio
because I was such a radio guy even from high school. Like,
I know both, but I think like intrinsically when I
hear it come on, I'm thinking like like they replaced.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Violence with primus.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh yes, yeah, well that was kind of the MTV version,
Yeah right, yeah, which was the radio vers, which was
the radio vers. It wasn't you know a lot of
rap that preceded that. If it crossed over, they would.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Just edit out the words.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But he had full clean version, so there was there
were no skips. It was every word was replaced with
a more PC.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Word, right right? How are you gonna breast Phoebe? Mom?
You ain't got no right? I think for me, I
would sing or rap explicit because once I had once,
I had once say the CD is all over. That's
the only thing I listened to.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And also on top of that, going to the radio thing,
there was no radio station in my market that played that. Really,
we didn't like the Top forty station didn't touch it.
We did not have a hip hop station in the
area yet. That didn't come in until I want to say,
two thousand and three first hip hop station. So the
radio market I was in, which is Springfield, mass Heart
(19:10):
for Connecticut, it was it was very They were very
adult leaning and less about the hip hop one.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
So your point, it peaked at number twenty nine on
pop rias. That's so yeah, my name is only peaked
at number twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I would have guessed. I would have guessed top ten,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
The real Slim Shady only peaked at fifteen, and Stan
only peaked at thirty one.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Then without me went to number one.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Wow. Yeah, and this really this catapulted him. Like we
said in the top YEP, the next album the Marshall
Mathers LP that just like blew up. I mean that
was everywhere. We'll get into that one in another episode.
So overall, I would say that this was just such
an influential album. It launched his career. A guy who
I consider he is in my mount rushmore of rappers
(19:55):
is Eminem. I don't need to know the other three.
So yes or no. Now you're doing the math. It before.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
He's he's on the edge. He's on the bubble.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
He's not an automatic find out on Selection Sunday if
he has enough quad one wins.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That is that is a reference that is going to
pull over most people.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Being a Michigan guy, was it was it bit was?
Was he a big deal where you grew up?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And the you know what's funny is I remember the
Red Wings. Obviously they they were winning Stanley Cupps left
and right.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
In those days. The local radio station did.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Like, you know, parody Eminem songs about the Red Wings,
and I mean they played there were when he I
want to say, like ninety nine, two thousand, yep, like
you were hearing an eminem song two three times an
hour in the Detroit market.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I mean, that's what you're supposed to do when you
have a local artist like that. Right, I'm sure that
was Kanye here circa two thousand and six, right, right,
that's awesome, that's pretty cool. So the real Slim Shady
LP top to bottom twenty songs sold ten million copies.
Won a Grammy had to bring it up in the
podcast today just because of influence alone.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And by the way, that's ten million physical copies. Yeah, Like,
I know, ivy thing's very different today with how streaming
and digital are counted, but like ten over ten million
physical printed CDs that were purchased for about twenty dollars apiece,
so expensive.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Who had that money? We did have that two hundred
million dollars in CD purchases.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You do you agree with Grammy dot com. They said
this is one of the most influential rap albums of
all time because it made spaces for different narratives.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Right in hip hop, right, I think there's so much
that you see in hip hop and in other genres
that was like inspired by, Yeah, the uniqueness of this album,
Like we talked about, you know, the flow, the storytelling,
not that you know those were there in different elements before,
but I think it definitely changed the game in.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
A lot of love for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Love it awesome discussion on one of my favorite artists.
Not first album a popular opinion?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Did you hit the wrong button again? Didn't really have
an unpopular.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Now I have to make one up.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Okay, make it if it better not be about nerds,
gummy unpopular opinion.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Nerds gummy clusters aren't that great?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Okay, cancel him?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Snacks and I really really struck a nerve with some
of the listeners on Snacks.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That said, people.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Until next time, Lucky eighteen, no clue. We'll talk about
it won't be fashioned, but we want to know about
what you think about eminem and and this album and
where you rank him. We will we will do the
mount rushmore of rappers at some point, because I think
that one's gonna be a good one and it's gonna
have already no mine, it's gonna have all basically nineties
nineties rappers. So there you go. Follow us on Instagram,
(22:57):
I'm at Brady Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I met Dan g zero four eight two yeah, and
we're on YouTube, so you can if you want to see.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
If you want to.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Imagine Brady catching gummy clustered in his mouth, you can
do it in your mind if you want to see it. Yeah,
the athletic powist. That was that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It was truly incredible. Ye.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And it's perfect for this this weekend. We get a
lot of college basketball coming up. We're just getting ready,
getting loose, uh, and do all things we like and
stuff like share you share, that's a thing. Do the
things that you can do, and we'll talk to you
next time.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.