May 28, 2025 • 25 mins
There was no bigger athlete in the 90's than Michael Jordan! Brady and Dan talk about his legacy on and off the court. How much money MJ is worth. And dabble in the Lebron debate. What's your favorite Jordan moment?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Greatest of all Time, Number twenty three. This is
Brady one more Time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'll look back on all things nineties and two thousands.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Oh, here we go, Da Da Da Da, Here.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
We go.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Here's your host, Brady Broski.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So if you're an opposing team and you hear that song,
and like any year of the nineties, you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You're already down.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Ten points before you even tip the ball off, and
you're definitely about to go home.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Plus that is, of.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Course the legendary sound of the intro from the Nine
These Bulls.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And our topic today is going to be.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
All about the greatest of all time, mister Michael Jeffrey
Jordan and with me today on the most nostalgic podcast
in America, which is what I'm calling this now. I
don't know if that's official, but I mean I just
made it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I did well the well receive official word on that
any day.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
No, I'm sure covering all things with me pop culture
from the nineties and two thousands.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Brady one More Time.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I'm Brady, and he is the kickball King, and some
would say the Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Of kickball himself.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That is Dan Ginsburg dastardly. Do you usually enjoy your
intros of me? But having heard that intro of MJ,
I would have rather been introduced that way.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Okay, let's take it from that.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Time.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
For that we already we already are taken two here,
so let's just let's just move forward with this topic.
But I thought you were gonna say, I prefer to
be the Scottie Pippen of the Kickball I'll go, I'll
glad take.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The Scottie Pippen of the Brady One More Time podcast. Ah,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Jordan and Peppe assist to you know, help you hit
the shots goosebumps man.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, we're talking about Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I know. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh wait, I thought we were talking about Michael Bakari Jordan,
Creed Sinners.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh, Michael b Jordan.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Nope, Nope, nope, nope, We're we're going we're going, uh,
we're going back a couple of decades prior to his success.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We're winging this. Then, yeah, you probably.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Have No, you don't have any knowledge of this guy
clarified which Michael Jordan we were talking about for episode
twenty three.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I just assumed you would think because it's in nineties
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeeah, oops, do you need like a half hour just
sing it?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We'll wing it? Are you sure? Yeah? You know enough
about this guy. Jordan was good on the wing. I'll
be good at winging it too.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It is episode twenty three, so that's where we got
the Michael. We're gonna do it a different episode, but
I was like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Let's just let's talk about m jay it. I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Born in nineteen sixty three, and of course, the famous
story about Michael Jordan is he did not make his
high school basketball team.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Is sophomore year because he was quote crazy short.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So he played JV that year in like average like
forty points game, which in high school is like eighty
points in the NBA because those games aren't that all.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Averaged forty, and his team won like fifty to ten.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Right, He scored all the points and then ended up
becoming the greatest.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
One the nineteen eighty two year.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I was born in NCAA championship for u n CNC,
winning the championship winning shot.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
As a better yea.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
He was on his way at that point, and of
course everybody calls him the greatest of all time except
some Lebron haters. We'll go Lebron lovers, I should say.
We'll get into that later on, but I want to
ask you. I want to start here. Do you consider
Michael Jordan the greatest athlete of all time? We say
NBA basketball, easy, easy, yeah, check that box.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But athlete overall NBA and I, as you said, some
of Lebron fans and maybe Kobe fan would dispute.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm a fully with you with NBA. I mean, I
think when you start going cross sport, it's so tough.
I mean when you look at not that I'm a
gymnastics officionado other than once every four years, but I
mean when you look at the level that Simone Biles
came in for gymnastics compared to where the sport was
before her, I mean, she's got to be in that discussion.
Serena Williams, which she did for tennis.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
NBA. I think basketball in general, slam dunk.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
MJ's number one, and MJ's number one on my list,
I do have Serena my top five. So MJ, Serena
your mount rushmore of all times.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Ye plus one for five. Tom Brady I knew you
were gonna have Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I was gonna say it before it came out of you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You don't agree, I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's fair, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Moving on Muhammad Ali's as well. Yeah, and rounding out
my top five, I went similar to the Simone Biles,
I went Michael.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Phelps, Yeah, oh yeah, you gotta have the Olympic when
you I mean the way he dominated because I think
what you have to look at when you're talking goats
greatest of all time within their sport, you have to
look at how they did in their in their time,
their era, because things evolve. I mean, if you use
Phelps as an example like this, the world of swimming
is always coming up with like new technology, new like
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world records are getting broken constantly. You could break a
world record now and in fifty years you're not going
to be top ten on the list. But when you
look at like when you watch Phelps in the Olympics,
the way he just dominated the competition and his key
events that you know he'd be half a pool length
ahead of them. Similar with Jordan, I mean in his time. Yeah,
there are people who have him beat in other stats.
(05:39):
You know, in certain stats in this decade. But when
you look at the way he dominated his sport during
extremely long period of time, Uh yeah, it's it's it's unparallel.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Six out of seven NBA championships in a row, and
the only reason the year they didn't win in that
stretch is because he stopped playing. They went and played baseball,
which was a little disastrous. But first off, first memory
of mj for you, Dan, So you don't know this,
but I was. I always learned something so new about
(06:13):
the most interesting man.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
This is.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
This is a random he's your uncle. Yeah, Michael Jordan
is my father, so U nineteen ninety five, I was.
I was grew up in ann Arbor, Michigan. My dad
had a good friend and colleague who lived in Chicago
who invited us to come to Chicago for a Bulls
(06:37):
game in nineteen ninety five. We planned this trip months
in advance, and my dad gets a call from his
friend in the lead up to the game when there's
talk of Michael Jordan coming out of retirement and tells him, hey,
there's a there's a word that the game we're going
to might be the game that Michael Jordan comes out
of retirement.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
For it turned out to be that game.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I mean, he could have sold the four tickets for
god knows how much money, but he didn't. And so
I was at I was visiting Chicago. I was at
the game that Michael Jordan came out of retirement for unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, the first forty five it was, he was wearing
forty five.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I was a I was a thirteen year old kid.
I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
All I remember is that it was the loudest, most
deafening concert venue, sporting event, whatever situation I'd ever been
in my life, like the roars when they announced like
the clip you played, but when they announced him that day,
I mean it was that is believable.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That you were there? Was it at United Center? Was
the United yet?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It was prettlieve it was. It was it's pretty new,
you're it's pretty new. If it was, that's an amazing story.
Holy cow, it was unbelievable. I growing up in the
United Center open in ninety four, So United Center. I
grew up on the East Coast, and kids my age,
it didn't matter where you grew up. You were a
(08:04):
Michael Jordan fan, even if you I mean so Celtics
were huge in Boston. The nineties sucked, yeah, if you're
a Celtics fan.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But yeah, well I grew up growing up in Michigan
Piston's early nineties that they were good.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, But as a kid at a certain age, you
just gravitated to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You became a fan.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
No matter what your team fandom was, you were an
MJ fan.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And worldwide Europe, Asia, Africa, all over the world, they
were these games were being like satellited over to worldwide
just because people wanted to see MJ.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I bet you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
He was at one point in that mid nineties, probably
even earlier, like early nineties, the most recognizable human.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, I'm probably above Bill Clinton and righting Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Right politicians or actors. He's probably across the world. If
you showed somebody from a different country, sure, Michael Jordan,
they would know that's Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And he really kind of changed the game when it
came to being marketable.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, I mean he transcended the sport to an insane degree.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
He did with the sport, but also the stuff that
he did outside the sport, like the endorsements.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yep, he just made everything cool.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Like, I mean, Air Jordan is probably the most iconic
like brand logo segment.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yep, ever it's it's it's him. And how many pairs
of air Jordan's do you own?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
What are you up to seventeen?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't, as we've covered extensively on this show. I
am not that's a fashionist.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Exactly, but oh man, but air Jordan's yep, Haynes Haynes.
Gatorade was the big one for me because that was like,
I'm just starting to play sports now and I'm just
tasting gatorade, and I remember the infamous campaign was like Mike,
I want.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To be right. Yeah, oh my gosh, like that.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Song stuck in your head as a ten year old, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You mentioned unc he made the tar heels cool, like that,
that tar heel blue. You wouldn't see people wearing that hat,
those jerseys like he made that. I mean, they're still
selling his jersey as a tar heel, right. McDonald's, that's yeah.
They did the McDonald's commercials with Larry Bird. Do you
remember they they did the sequences like off the backboard, yeah,
(10:24):
off the skyscraper hits the truck, yeah, and nothing but net.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, they didn't have AI they had I wonder how
many times they had to shoot that back then?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, couldn't just make the ball go in the hoop?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well there he was that good.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And another thing that I that I feel belongs on
his outside of the NBA resume that you know he
made cool.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The Dream Team.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, the dream like NBA and I'm sorry, basketball in
the Olympics was all right.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well it was they didn't allow NBA, but it was
only amateur for a lot of time and.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's not fun. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And then in nineteen ninety two, like, you know what
we should do, We should probably get the best players
in our country to play in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And the Dream Team probably arguably the greatest selection that
year of players ever assembled.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Team.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, I mean the Legends ninety six in Atlanta as well.
People got to see him here us Yes, yes, so
two time gold two time Gold Medalist, five time NBA
m v P, six NBA titles, I mean, come on.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Six NBA titles, six college title my favorite stat though,
he's six NBA championships.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
In every single one. He is the MVP of the
of the Final, the Finals right the finals.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So it like they really everything, everything surrounding the Bulls
went through Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
They tried, they tried to win without him.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That one year and a half.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
They they did not.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Have the same success.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So let me let me ask you this. Yeah, Jordan,
Pip and Rodman. Can you name a more successful or
recognizable trio and sport ever?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Recognizable?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
No, recognizable because they all kind of it was Batman
and Robin with with Jordan and Pippen and then Dennis, and.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Robin was such a character person else he was.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He was the wild card and so recognizable. I would
say no, I would have to think of all sports.
I mean, basketball players, that's about. It's all about the
Big three, right. You could probably make a case for
other NBA teams. I'm sure there's some Laker teams that
I'm not really thinking of, but yeah, the three of them,
(12:35):
I mean, and then you have role players too long
I mean starting center Tony Kuk.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah that Ron Harper. I watched a lot of.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Bulls games as a kid, as did all of them
America because they were always on TV.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, NBA on NBC, which is coming back, it is
it is?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yes, Yes, he's gonna be, uh, what is like a
special correspondent or something.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He's not. It's not like play by player, color common terry.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's something else. But he's going to be like some
special commentator.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
It's going to get ratings. Oh yeah, because they're going
to say the words. Let's go to Michael Jordan and
hear his take.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I wonder how he's going to do at that because
one thing he did not excel at was he hosted SNL.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
He's just like a subdued talker kind of right, Yeah,
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He like outside of basketball, like he has such swag
on the basketball court.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But he's just a kind of like mild mannered personality.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
He's the opposite of Charles Barkley when it comes to that. Yeah, yeah, did.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You do you remember that SNL?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I god, I mean I probably saw it like a
memory of him hosting. I couldn't name a single sketch.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It was almost as bad as when Tom Brady hosted it.
And you know how big of a Tom Brady, right,
But when Peyton Manner hosted it, that was hysterical.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But we do have to talk about some I don't
want to say critically acclaimed, but some more notable entertainment
performers got him.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I know where you're going, Go ahead, Space Jam, come on, man,
I mean I believe I can fly, I can say it,
I can't sing it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean that was that sort of became like a
cult pop culture phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And they tried to ruin it by the sequel, in
which he was not a part of.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, Space I mean again made everything cool, made Looney
Tunes cool, like literally, like all of a sudden, kids
are wearing t shirts with tes Median Devil wearing baggy Yeah,
Space Jam's great.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I think you got mentioned
the Last Dance as well, just the cultural impact that
had retelling the story revealing a bunch of stuff behind
the scenes, so we didn't know what was going on,
you know, five years later.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Do you think there was a lot more shady things
that went down around him during that time?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, I think you could say that almost across the
board for the that the eighties and nineties any after,
it was just a different time.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
There was no cell phone, so you couldn't document.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Things, couldn't be people weren't afraid of being recorded at
any given time. It was also just a different time
culture wise in a lot of ways kind of messed up.
Not to Michael Jordan's specifically, but this is a different,
different time to be alive. I'm particularly as a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm thinking solely about his gambling.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That's what I'm thinking about, and how it's just got
to be crazy to have so much money, even still
to this day, that you can just spend sure, so
much money on blackjack, right on whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
How much do you have to I mean, if if
you're a multi multi millionaire, I mean, how much do
you have to spend on a hand of black check
to even feel like you have any stake in the game? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Like you and I? I have to double down and
I suddenly got forty down there.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm like, I'll I'll meet the penny slack stand.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, no, there's that part the flu game. How about
the flu game?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Oh that's right, Yeah, score thirty eight points? Yeah, NBA
Finals Flu game. I have the fluid.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm hydrated on the bench.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I'm the biggest baby you'll ever meet. He goes and
scores almost forty damn points.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Let's see what else?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, the Lebron argument do you wanna do you wanna
take a stab at it?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So, I mean again, I'll go back to what I
said at the beginning of the episode. It's I think
anytime you're going to debate players from different eras, you
have to look at how they competed amongst their era,
and that that's not a knock on. I mean, Lebron
has still been dominant throughout this era, but not to
the same degree. You know, you can you can put
stats side by side. Lebron obviously also has played had
(16:37):
a longer career than Jordan by choice had but when
you look at.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Just the way longer, yeah, oh, way longer.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So I mean, of course in career based stats, he's
going to overtake him in some of them. But I
think if you look at the level of domination within
their era, it's just not the same. Lebron has had
an incredible career, but he hasn't. He didn't he didn't
dominate the sport over the whole course of his career
the way Jordan did, and he obviously didn't win anywhere
(17:05):
near the number.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Of titles he's close. What is he six to four
at four? I think he was at three.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
At six to four, but still in the in the
span of that time, right, like, how many quite?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
This is the big question. Everybody asked, how many would you?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, I'll also mention this, how many NBA titles did
did Jordan lose?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
That would be an astoundings. That's that's a telling stat. Yep,
not not only lost. But and again I'm not I'm
not here to bash Lebron, but some of those finals,
Lebron had some NBA finals that he did not perform
up to expectations.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
To put it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Gently, Lebron, Lebron packed his bags and left to a
couple of times.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I mean, I know Jordan played with elsewhere he did,
but this one's good too. Scoring titles. Lebron versus m
J MJ ten scoring titles. And he guesses how many
Lebron won.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm gonna say four one only one one scoring title?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I mean, to your point, Lebron really good number two.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, And I mean, to be fair to him, he
also had to play for a Cleveland team that for
years outside of him, was he not good?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
If you looked at the stat sheets, though, Lebron would
have more rebounds, probably assists too, Jordan, Moore, Steeles and
obviously several points, but comparing the two to me, it
comes down to one thing, and it's an intangible It's
like the will to win.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, Lebron r.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Lebron says the right things, he does all the right things.
He's been in the spotlight since he was like fifteen
years old. And I love the fact that we've never
heard any negativity around him about like him off the court.
He's always done the right thing. He's built schools, oh
for sure. But Michael Jordan just had that one will,
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that extra will, that one intention.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Kobe had that I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It was like a just you could see was just
in a different zone on another level when like the
spotlight was the brightest when you're in the in a
tight game in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
So I can't even imagine what it was like to
live in the city. We're in Chicago, obviously, but I
can't even imagine what that time period must It just
must have been a party eighty two nights a year,
you know what I mean, and then all the playoff games, yep,
Like the city must have just been turned upside down
and we haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
That in this city in a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The closes the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, well, right for playoff run. You know that's a
playoff run versus with Jordan. It was just all season,
every season, for season. After seasons a point, he was durable.
They that was back when the NBA players played just
about every game.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And now they're like, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Gotta strategically rest them so they're ready for the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Not in that day.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
No, how much money do you think MJ to this day?
How much money does he pull in annually?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh my god, I'm gonna be so you want me
to just make a dollars guess? Yeah, make a dollar.
I'm so far up.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm the son of course endorsements in business deals.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I'm gonna go thirty five million a year? Uh no,
not close? Am I too low?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You're way too low. We won't play prices right because it'll.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Take you at caste. I didn't go over.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
He didn't go over between three hundred and four hundred
million every year, every year, bringing in like one. When
we're done, I'm gonna divide that to find out how
much money he made during this podcast. Uh yeah, I
mean I mean Nike alone seven billion, dollars I mean
in sales.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Wow, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Holy cow, what brought into the Hall of Fame? And
O nine by the way, I mean, no surprise ballot.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Did anybody not vote for him? Yeah, Lebron.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
What is the one lasting memory of Michael Jordan that
you have that you think kind of sums up him
in your life?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like what he meant to you?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Oh? Man, that is a tough question because I've got
I've got a couple.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
But the one, the one actual like visual that keeps
popping into my head is the championship that he won
after his father passed away.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, I was on that, but the what led to
the initial retirement.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, he wanted he wanted to make of his father, right,
That's what he didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So he went back to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
But no, he he's hugging the trophy in tears, that
first uh, that first championship after his father.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's one that just sticks out to me.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's a great one.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I think I would add just the the dunk from
the free throw line, just the yeah, just just the
visual of the amount of ground ground he covered and
height he got. I mean, I think he was just
elevating something that thirty years later, kids who were not
alive at that time are are are trying to emulate
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that in practice or in a game.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's just such an iconic I mean, the same way
the the you know, the air Jordan logo, the just
that's such an iconic image. You don't even if you're
not a sports fan. I feel like you know that image.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, you know what that logo means. Money there you
go a lot of money. Yeah, that's a really good
one too. I feel like Michael Jordan, when it's all
said and done, is going to be looked at, like
years and decades from now as the greatest athlete of
our generation, much like we did to a Babe Ruth.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You think about Babe ar You think about Babe Ruth like.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
We didn't see him play obviously, and there's there's not
really any recordings of it, but you just think about
the man was bigger, big, bigger than the game, and
he was just more of a like a like a
like a like a creature of epic proportions as opposed
to just.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, agreed, And I mean I think you also have
to mention like the societal impact too of you know,
we we talked about.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
He was not.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
He was a little bit like soft spoken, and he
didn't go out of his way to insert himself into
like every world or political issue. But I mean he
donated millions and millions to open schools.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
You know, he got involved with.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Education, with racial justice, with health care inequity. You know,
he's jumped in here and there with social issues like
in a very like subtle way, subtle like bring everyone in,
bring the you know, unite us, not divide us, which
is something I think we're kind of sorely lacking in
this day and age.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I mean, I think he was just very, very.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Thoughtful and wise in terms of how he knew he
could use his image to benefit people and help society,
and maybe more importantly, how he was aware of when
to kind of on the sidelines too. I mean, he
he knew the impact he had and how to use
it in a way to help and to bring people
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together without you know, dividing society in a way that
obviously we see all too often.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You know, I get jealous of you a lot, Dan,
but I will say this might be the most jealous
I ever am of you, because you saw the unretirement,
you saw not only did you see Michael Jordan live
which nope, not me, you saw him in his unretirement game.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I did. I wish that we were a little older,
so my memory that was better. But you were there.
I was there. You were there?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Did you bowl him? Were you booing?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
No, kidding, Get this kid out of here. How do
we do? We want to know what your favorite MJ
memory or moment is.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Let us know.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Of course, we're on Instagram as well. I'm at Brady
Radio at dan Gee zero four, eight to two, and yeah,
we'll pop this up on YouTube here at some point
and enjoy the rest of your day.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next next time.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Eight
The Greatest of all Time, Number twenty three. This is
Brady one more Time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'll look back on all things nineties and two thousands.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Oh, here we go, Da Da Da Da, Here.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
We go.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Here's your host, Brady Broski.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So if you're an opposing team and you hear that song,
and like any year of the nineties, you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You're already down.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Ten points before you even tip the ball off, and
you're definitely about to go home.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Plus that is, of.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Course the legendary sound of the intro from the Nine
These Bulls.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And our topic today is going to be.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
All about the greatest of all time, mister Michael Jeffrey
Jordan and with me today on the most nostalgic podcast
in America, which is what I'm calling this now. I
don't know if that's official, but I mean I just
made it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I did well the well receive official word on that
any day.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
No, I'm sure covering all things with me pop culture
from the nineties and two thousands.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Brady one More Time.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I'm Brady, and he is the kickball King, and some
would say the Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Of kickball himself.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That is Dan Ginsburg dastardly. Do you usually enjoy your
intros of me? But having heard that intro of MJ,
I would have rather been introduced that way.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Okay, let's take it from that.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Time.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
For that we already we already are taken two here,
so let's just let's just move forward with this topic.
But I thought you were gonna say, I prefer to
be the Scottie Pippen of the Kickball I'll go, I'll
glad take.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The Scottie Pippen of the Brady One More Time podcast. Ah,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Jordan and Peppe assist to you know, help you hit
the shots goosebumps man.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, we're talking about Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I know. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh wait, I thought we were talking about Michael Bakari Jordan,
Creed Sinners.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh, Michael b Jordan.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Nope, Nope, nope, nope, We're we're going we're going, uh,
we're going back a couple of decades prior to his success.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We're winging this. Then, yeah, you probably.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Have No, you don't have any knowledge of this guy
clarified which Michael Jordan we were talking about for episode
twenty three.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I just assumed you would think because it's in nineties
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeeah, oops, do you need like a half hour just
sing it?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We'll wing it? Are you sure? Yeah? You know enough
about this guy. Jordan was good on the wing. I'll
be good at winging it too.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It is episode twenty three, so that's where we got
the Michael. We're gonna do it a different episode, but
I was like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Let's just let's talk about m jay it. I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Born in nineteen sixty three, and of course, the famous
story about Michael Jordan is he did not make his
high school basketball team.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Is sophomore year because he was quote crazy short.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So he played JV that year in like average like
forty points game, which in high school is like eighty
points in the NBA because those games aren't that all.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Averaged forty, and his team won like fifty to ten.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Right, He scored all the points and then ended up
becoming the greatest.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
One the nineteen eighty two year.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I was born in NCAA championship for u n CNC,
winning the championship winning shot.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
As a better yea.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
He was on his way at that point, and of
course everybody calls him the greatest of all time except
some Lebron haters. We'll go Lebron lovers, I should say.
We'll get into that later on, but I want to
ask you. I want to start here. Do you consider
Michael Jordan the greatest athlete of all time? We say
NBA basketball, easy, easy, yeah, check that box.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But athlete overall NBA and I, as you said, some
of Lebron fans and maybe Kobe fan would dispute.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm a fully with you with NBA. I mean, I
think when you start going cross sport, it's so tough.
I mean when you look at not that I'm a
gymnastics officionado other than once every four years, but I
mean when you look at the level that Simone Biles
came in for gymnastics compared to where the sport was
before her, I mean, she's got to be in that discussion.
Serena Williams, which she did for tennis.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
NBA. I think basketball in general, slam dunk.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
MJ's number one, and MJ's number one on my list,
I do have Serena my top five. So MJ, Serena
your mount rushmore of all times.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Ye plus one for five. Tom Brady I knew you
were gonna have Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I was gonna say it before it came out of you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You don't agree, I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's fair, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Moving on Muhammad Ali's as well. Yeah, and rounding out
my top five, I went similar to the Simone Biles,
I went Michael.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Phelps, Yeah, oh yeah, you gotta have the Olympic when
you I mean the way he dominated because I think
what you have to look at when you're talking goats
greatest of all time within their sport, you have to
look at how they did in their in their time,
their era, because things evolve. I mean, if you use
Phelps as an example like this, the world of swimming
is always coming up with like new technology, new like
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world records are getting broken constantly. You could break a
world record now and in fifty years you're not going
to be top ten on the list. But when you
look at like when you watch Phelps in the Olympics,
the way he just dominated the competition and his key
events that you know he'd be half a pool length
ahead of them. Similar with Jordan, I mean in his time. Yeah,
there are people who have him beat in other stats.
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You know, in certain stats in this decade. But when
you look at the way he dominated his sport during
extremely long period of time, Uh yeah, it's it's it's unparallel.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Six out of seven NBA championships in a row, and
the only reason the year they didn't win in that
stretch is because he stopped playing. They went and played baseball,
which was a little disastrous. But first off, first memory
of mj for you, Dan, So you don't know this,
but I was. I always learned something so new about
(06:13):
the most interesting man.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
This is.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
This is a random he's your uncle. Yeah, Michael Jordan
is my father, so U nineteen ninety five, I was.
I was grew up in ann Arbor, Michigan. My dad
had a good friend and colleague who lived in Chicago
who invited us to come to Chicago for a Bulls
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game in nineteen ninety five. We planned this trip months
in advance, and my dad gets a call from his
friend in the lead up to the game when there's
talk of Michael Jordan coming out of retirement and tells him, hey,
there's a there's a word that the game we're going
to might be the game that Michael Jordan comes out
of retirement.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
For it turned out to be that game.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I mean, he could have sold the four tickets for
god knows how much money, but he didn't. And so
I was at I was visiting Chicago. I was at
the game that Michael Jordan came out of retirement for unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, the first forty five it was, he was wearing
forty five.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I was a I was a thirteen year old kid.
I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
All I remember is that it was the loudest, most
deafening concert venue, sporting event, whatever situation I'd ever been
in my life, like the roars when they announced like
the clip you played, but when they announced him that day,
I mean it was that is believable.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That you were there? Was it at United Center? Was
the United yet?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It was prettlieve it was. It was it's pretty new,
you're it's pretty new. If it was, that's an amazing story.
Holy cow, it was unbelievable. I growing up in the
United Center open in ninety four, So United Center. I
grew up on the East Coast, and kids my age,
it didn't matter where you grew up. You were a
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Michael Jordan fan, even if you I mean so Celtics
were huge in Boston. The nineties sucked, yeah, if you're
a Celtics fan.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But yeah, well I grew up growing up in Michigan
Piston's early nineties that they were good.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, But as a kid at a certain age, you
just gravitated to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You became a fan.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
No matter what your team fandom was, you were an
MJ fan.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And worldwide Europe, Asia, Africa, all over the world, they
were these games were being like satellited over to worldwide
just because people wanted to see MJ.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I bet you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
He was at one point in that mid nineties, probably
even earlier, like early nineties, the most recognizable human.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, I'm probably above Bill Clinton and righting Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Right politicians or actors. He's probably across the world. If
you showed somebody from a different country, sure, Michael Jordan,
they would know that's Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And he really kind of changed the game when it
came to being marketable.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, I mean he transcended the sport to an insane degree.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
He did with the sport, but also the stuff that
he did outside the sport, like the endorsements.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yep, he just made everything cool.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Like, I mean, Air Jordan is probably the most iconic
like brand logo segment.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yep, ever it's it's it's him. And how many pairs
of air Jordan's do you own?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
What are you up to seventeen?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't, as we've covered extensively on this show. I
am not that's a fashionist.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Exactly, but oh man, but air Jordan's yep, Haynes Haynes.
Gatorade was the big one for me because that was like,
I'm just starting to play sports now and I'm just
tasting gatorade, and I remember the infamous campaign was like Mike,
I want.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To be right. Yeah, oh my gosh, like that.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Song stuck in your head as a ten year old, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You mentioned unc he made the tar heels cool, like that,
that tar heel blue. You wouldn't see people wearing that hat,
those jerseys like he made that. I mean, they're still
selling his jersey as a tar heel, right. McDonald's, that's yeah.
They did the McDonald's commercials with Larry Bird. Do you
remember they they did the sequences like off the backboard, yeah,
(10:24):
off the skyscraper hits the truck, yeah, and nothing but net.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, they didn't have AI they had I wonder how
many times they had to shoot that back then?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, couldn't just make the ball go in the hoop?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well there he was that good.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And another thing that I that I feel belongs on
his outside of the NBA resume that you know he
made cool.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The Dream Team.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, the dream like NBA and I'm sorry, basketball in
the Olympics was all right.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well it was they didn't allow NBA, but it was
only amateur for a lot of time and.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's not fun. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And then in nineteen ninety two, like, you know what
we should do, We should probably get the best players
in our country to play in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And the Dream Team probably arguably the greatest selection that
year of players ever assembled.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Team.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, I mean the Legends ninety six in Atlanta as well.
People got to see him here us Yes, yes, so
two time gold two time Gold Medalist, five time NBA
m v P, six NBA titles, I mean, come on.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Six NBA titles, six college title my favorite stat though,
he's six NBA championships.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
In every single one. He is the MVP of the
of the Final, the Finals right the finals.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So it like they really everything, everything surrounding the Bulls
went through Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
They tried, they tried to win without him.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That one year and a half.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
They they did not.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Have the same success.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So let me let me ask you this. Yeah, Jordan,
Pip and Rodman. Can you name a more successful or
recognizable trio and sport ever?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Recognizable?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
No, recognizable because they all kind of it was Batman
and Robin with with Jordan and Pippen and then Dennis, and.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Robin was such a character person else he was.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He was the wild card and so recognizable. I would
say no, I would have to think of all sports.
I mean, basketball players, that's about. It's all about the
Big three, right. You could probably make a case for
other NBA teams. I'm sure there's some Laker teams that
I'm not really thinking of, but yeah, the three of them,
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I mean, and then you have role players too long
I mean starting center Tony Kuk.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah that Ron Harper. I watched a lot of.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Bulls games as a kid, as did all of them
America because they were always on TV.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, NBA on NBC, which is coming back, it is
it is?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yes, Yes, he's gonna be, uh, what is like a
special correspondent or something.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He's not. It's not like play by player, color common terry.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's something else. But he's going to be like some
special commentator.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
It's going to get ratings. Oh yeah, because they're going
to say the words. Let's go to Michael Jordan and
hear his take.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I wonder how he's going to do at that because
one thing he did not excel at was he hosted SNL.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
He's just like a subdued talker kind of right, Yeah,
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He like outside of basketball, like he has such swag
on the basketball court.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But he's just a kind of like mild mannered personality.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
He's the opposite of Charles Barkley when it comes to that. Yeah, yeah, did.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You do you remember that SNL?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I god, I mean I probably saw it like a
memory of him hosting. I couldn't name a single sketch.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It was almost as bad as when Tom Brady hosted it.
And you know how big of a Tom Brady, right,
But when Peyton Manner hosted it, that was hysterical.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But we do have to talk about some I don't
want to say critically acclaimed, but some more notable entertainment
performers got him.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I know where you're going, Go ahead, Space Jam, come on, man,
I mean I believe I can fly, I can say it,
I can't sing it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean that was that sort of became like a
cult pop culture phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And they tried to ruin it by the sequel, in
which he was not a part of.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, Space I mean again made everything cool, made Looney
Tunes cool, like literally, like all of a sudden, kids
are wearing t shirts with tes Median Devil wearing baggy Yeah,
Space Jam's great.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I think you got mentioned
the Last Dance as well, just the cultural impact that
had retelling the story revealing a bunch of stuff behind
the scenes, so we didn't know what was going on,
you know, five years later.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Do you think there was a lot more shady things
that went down around him during that time?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, I think you could say that almost across the
board for the that the eighties and nineties any after,
it was just a different time.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
There was no cell phone, so you couldn't document.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Things, couldn't be people weren't afraid of being recorded at
any given time. It was also just a different time
culture wise in a lot of ways kind of messed up.
Not to Michael Jordan's specifically, but this is a different,
different time to be alive. I'm particularly as a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm thinking solely about his gambling.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That's what I'm thinking about, and how it's just got
to be crazy to have so much money, even still
to this day, that you can just spend sure, so
much money on blackjack, right on whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
How much do you have to I mean, if if
you're a multi multi millionaire, I mean, how much do
you have to spend on a hand of black check
to even feel like you have any stake in the game? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Like you and I? I have to double down and
I suddenly got forty down there.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm like, I'll I'll meet the penny slack stand.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, no, there's that part the flu game. How about
the flu game?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Oh that's right, Yeah, score thirty eight points? Yeah, NBA
Finals Flu game. I have the fluid.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm hydrated on the bench.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I'm the biggest baby you'll ever meet. He goes and
scores almost forty damn points.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Let's see what else?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, the Lebron argument do you wanna do you wanna
take a stab at it?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So, I mean again, I'll go back to what I
said at the beginning of the episode. It's I think
anytime you're going to debate players from different eras, you
have to look at how they competed amongst their era,
and that that's not a knock on. I mean, Lebron
has still been dominant throughout this era, but not to
the same degree. You know, you can you can put
stats side by side. Lebron obviously also has played had
(16:37):
a longer career than Jordan by choice had but when
you look at.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Just the way longer, yeah, oh, way longer.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So I mean, of course in career based stats, he's
going to overtake him in some of them. But I
think if you look at the level of domination within
their era, it's just not the same. Lebron has had
an incredible career, but he hasn't. He didn't he didn't
dominate the sport over the whole course of his career
the way Jordan did, and he obviously didn't win anywhere
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near the number.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Of titles he's close. What is he six to four
at four? I think he was at three.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
At six to four, but still in the in the
span of that time, right, like, how many quite?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
This is the big question. Everybody asked, how many would you?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, I'll also mention this, how many NBA titles did
did Jordan lose?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
That would be an astoundings. That's that's a telling stat. Yep,
not not only lost. But and again I'm not I'm
not here to bash Lebron, but some of those finals,
Lebron had some NBA finals that he did not perform
up to expectations.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
To put it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Gently, Lebron, Lebron packed his bags and left to a
couple of times.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I mean, I know Jordan played with elsewhere he did,
but this one's good too. Scoring titles. Lebron versus m
J MJ ten scoring titles. And he guesses how many
Lebron won.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm gonna say four one only one one scoring title?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I mean, to your point, Lebron really good number two.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, And I mean, to be fair to him, he
also had to play for a Cleveland team that for
years outside of him, was he not good?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
If you looked at the stat sheets, though, Lebron would
have more rebounds, probably assists too, Jordan, Moore, Steeles and
obviously several points, but comparing the two to me, it
comes down to one thing, and it's an intangible It's
like the will to win.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, Lebron r.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Lebron says the right things, he does all the right things.
He's been in the spotlight since he was like fifteen
years old. And I love the fact that we've never
heard any negativity around him about like him off the court.
He's always done the right thing. He's built schools, oh
for sure. But Michael Jordan just had that one will,
(18:58):
that extra will, that one intention.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Kobe had that I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It was like a just you could see was just
in a different zone on another level when like the
spotlight was the brightest when you're in the in a
tight game in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
So I can't even imagine what it was like to
live in the city. We're in Chicago, obviously, but I
can't even imagine what that time period must It just
must have been a party eighty two nights a year,
you know what I mean, and then all the playoff games, yep,
Like the city must have just been turned upside down
and we haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
That in this city in a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The closes the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, well, right for playoff run. You know that's a
playoff run versus with Jordan. It was just all season,
every season, for season. After seasons a point, he was durable.
They that was back when the NBA players played just
about every game.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And now they're like, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Gotta strategically rest them so they're ready for the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Not in that day.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
No, how much money do you think MJ to this day?
How much money does he pull in annually?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh my god, I'm gonna be so you want me
to just make a dollars guess? Yeah, make a dollar.
I'm so far up.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm the son of course endorsements in business deals.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I'm gonna go thirty five million a year? Uh no,
not close? Am I too low?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You're way too low. We won't play prices right because it'll.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Take you at caste. I didn't go over.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
He didn't go over between three hundred and four hundred
million every year, every year, bringing in like one. When
we're done, I'm gonna divide that to find out how
much money he made during this podcast. Uh yeah, I
mean I mean Nike alone seven billion, dollars I mean
in sales.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Wow, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Holy cow, what brought into the Hall of Fame? And
O nine by the way, I mean, no surprise ballot.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Did anybody not vote for him? Yeah, Lebron.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
What is the one lasting memory of Michael Jordan that
you have that you think kind of sums up him
in your life?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like what he meant to you?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Oh? Man, that is a tough question because I've got
I've got a couple.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
But the one, the one actual like visual that keeps
popping into my head is the championship that he won
after his father passed away.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, I was on that, but the what led to
the initial retirement.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, he wanted he wanted to make of his father, right,
That's what he didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So he went back to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
But no, he he's hugging the trophy in tears, that
first uh, that first championship after his father.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's one that just sticks out to me.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's a great one.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I think I would add just the the dunk from
the free throw line, just the yeah, just just the
visual of the amount of ground ground he covered and
height he got. I mean, I think he was just
elevating something that thirty years later, kids who were not
alive at that time are are are trying to emulate
(22:05):
that in practice or in a game.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's just such an iconic I mean, the same way
the the you know, the air Jordan logo, the just
that's such an iconic image. You don't even if you're
not a sports fan. I feel like you know that image.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, you know what that logo means. Money there you
go a lot of money. Yeah, that's a really good
one too. I feel like Michael Jordan, when it's all
said and done, is going to be looked at, like
years and decades from now as the greatest athlete of
our generation, much like we did to a Babe Ruth.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You think about Babe ar You think about Babe Ruth like.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
We didn't see him play obviously, and there's there's not
really any recordings of it, but you just think about
the man was bigger, big, bigger than the game, and
he was just more of a like a like a
like a like a creature of epic proportions as opposed
to just.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, agreed, And I mean I think you also have
to mention like the societal impact too of you know,
we we talked about.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
He was not.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
He was a little bit like soft spoken, and he
didn't go out of his way to insert himself into
like every world or political issue. But I mean he
donated millions and millions to open schools.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
You know, he got involved with.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Education, with racial justice, with health care inequity. You know,
he's jumped in here and there with social issues like
in a very like subtle way, subtle like bring everyone in,
bring the you know, unite us, not divide us, which
is something I think we're kind of sorely lacking in
this day and age.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I mean, I think he was just very, very.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Thoughtful and wise in terms of how he knew he
could use his image to benefit people and help society,
and maybe more importantly, how he was aware of when
to kind of on the sidelines too. I mean, he
he knew the impact he had and how to use
it in a way to help and to bring people
(24:08):
together without you know, dividing society in a way that
obviously we see all too often.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You know, I get jealous of you a lot, Dan,
but I will say this might be the most jealous
I ever am of you, because you saw the unretirement,
you saw not only did you see Michael Jordan live
which nope, not me, you saw him in his unretirement game.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I did. I wish that we were a little older,
so my memory that was better. But you were there.
I was there. You were there?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Did you bowl him? Were you booing?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
No, kidding, Get this kid out of here. How do
we do? We want to know what your favorite MJ
memory or moment is.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Let us know.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Of course, we're on Instagram as well. I'm at Brady
Radio at dan Gee zero four, eight to two, and yeah,
we'll pop this up on YouTube here at some point
and enjoy the rest of your day.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next next time.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
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