March 28, 2025 • 25 mins
From MTV's 'The Real World' to 'Keeping Up with the Kardashians', Brady and Dan chat about the televison genre that came to prominence in the 90's: Reality TV. Which show is the greatest of all time? Take a listen and let's see if you agree.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eighteen. We're legal. This is Brady one more time.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'll look back on all things nineties and two thousands,
the movies, what do they call it, Big Man.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
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a Big Mac, The music, the awkwardness, you fire, you're fired,
You fired, you fired, you fire.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
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Here's your host, Brady Broski looks so disappointed. Over there.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I've left flashbacks to when Trump fired Annie the poker
player instead of Joan Rivers, and at the time I
thought it was the worst thing Trump had ever done,
ever fired. Uh, yeah, we didn't know what the next
twenty years we're going to bring.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, we are here, We are welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I am the Brady of the Brady One More Time
podcast radio host from Coast to Coast now podcast toasted
from coast to coast. Do you still say coast to coast?
It's really the whole world world.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We're on YouTube now.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, this is not going to be on YouTube because
there's there's no cameras. Hopefully nobody stole them.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Technical difficulties. But with me today is what is your imagination?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
There you go. Hey, did you I think that was? What?
How many years ago? Was that? Ten years ago? We
gave a riveting performance of that was the night I
peaked life and Life. Wow. We were we did Regulators.
We didn't we didn't plan on doing regulators? Was I? I
was warned?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:39):
You were Nate Dogs. Yeah? And we I mean we usually.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You do karaoke and you stare at the screen, right.
We didn't need the work at all, and we had
we had screaming women at our ankles.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah. Speaking of which, I made out with a forty
year old that night, which was a big deal at
the time because I want to say I was like
thirty one now old for about getting ready to turn
forty three in a couple of weeks, and forty feels
very age appropriate.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Anyways, the musical enthusiasts just like me, The one and
only daring Dan Ginsberg is here.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Welcome. How are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
This is gonna be a fun, fun podcast episode because
it's something that you have actually personally experienced.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Of the two people in the room to count that,
I mean arguably.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, so what the podcast is We're asking each other
and you the listener, what is your personal goat of
reality television? Not what you think the world thinks, because
that would probably come back Survivor, I would think that
would be number one. That's number one on the listen.
I'm about to read yep, But what is your personal one? Now,
Dan here, our friend was part of a internet reality.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Shn you talk about it? No, no, no, it's it's public,
it's out the episodes are still out there. I remember
when you left you were being very well, No, I
couldn't talk about it then.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Was on YouTube. I want to say it was on
Amazon Prime Video for a time.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I don't know that. I don't know if it still is,
but yeah, I was on a very uh you know not.
It wasn't on network television or any television. Was it
low budget? Lower budget?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But you know it got at one point years ago
it had episodes had like fifty thousand views, so I think,
you know it's it probably somewhat more than that now,
So you know, it wasn't that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It wasn't nothing, but it wasn't major. Are you comfortable
saying the name of the show.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Of course, it was called Sequester and where I mean
you were. This is probably going to give away what
my TV pick is going to be. Oh yeah, you
should we tell the next I'll hold off. We'll get
back to this, but that's a good tease.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Anyways, you can tell us how you did on the show,
is sure, the whole antics was been. I actually want
to know, like what it's like to be with a crew,
in a camera crew when you're almost living in a
homeless strangers essentially.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well I was. There were There were twenty of us
on that show, and five of the twenty had been
on either The Amazing Race or Big Brother previously, so
we had, you know, experience reality reality TV stars in
as part of our cast.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Now, all that being said, I want to preface today's
episode by saying, reality TV, this is my opinion, is
not real.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Not real at all.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
In fact, I have a hard time believing anything is
real these days. So if there's a camera crew in there,
then there's probably a director, then there's probably a producer,
and guess what, there's probably writers.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I generally agree with you, I have some thoughts that. Again,
I'm not going to spoil my pick yet, but we'll
get it. We'll get into it, Okay, but I generally
I will I'll just say this, it depends on the
show some more than others. I mean, I think I
think reality TV for the past, you know, nineties and
two thousands all the way straight through today runs the
gamut from like fully scripted to fully unscripted.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And everywhere in between, depending on the show. Okay, I
mean you're the expert on the show. Well, we'll get
into it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
These are Variety magazines Variety dot COM's list of the
top ten of all time. Okay, top ten reality shows.
Ten is Taxi Cab Confessions.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's fair. I mean they need to bring that back
and do uber lyft right. That was like syndicated. I
think for like a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It was a while. It was ahead of its time. Yeah,
Real Housewives Franchise nine again, not not real. The Amazing
Race number eight. It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The Amazing Race probably the most critically acclaimed reality show
of all time. It's won a bunch of Emmys. I
haven't watched a ton of it, but I think it's
considered a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
More like why do you think it around? Why do
you think it won so many Emmys because of the concept.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, I think there's a lot more.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You're like kind of learning about world cultures a little bit,
traveling the globe.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't know that. That's not Mindless TV.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I know that and RuPaul's Drag Race are like always
winning Emmys for the reality show RuPaul's Drag Race.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Is that on the list? Not in the top ten? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
No, I'm sorry, it's coming up. Okay, I had to
keep scrolling. Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Seven is Project Runway. I feel like that's critically a
claim too. I think that sounds well.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Number six this was I forgot about this one the mole, remember.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, there was one person secretly working against you and
you had to identify them.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Number five American Idol. That's probably the goat of I mean,
we can go the whole episode just on American Idol
and we will.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Or or on bo Bice losing to Carrie Underwood. Are
you still about that? He just popped up on my
phone here? Like why is bo Byce here?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Justin? How about? Just how about? Is an episode on
Runners Up? Just wait?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He didn't know David art to lett A lost to
David Cook, right right? Clay Aikin, Yeah, Clay ake in
a decent career. Fantasia did she.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wish she won? Okay, yeah, Chicago's I think Chicago's on, right,
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Maybe, I don't know. Number worldwide, We don't know. We'll
get into American Idol for sure on later.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So number four Top Chef, I never really watched that
same here's RuPaul's drag Race.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Number three three. Yeah, I was gonna say, I had
to be on there.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Number two The Real World, that's a good one. And
number one Survivor, Yeah, wellever So.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's I think those are very deserving top two and
I think if you're talking because speaking of the topic
of this podcast, nineties and two thousands a very defining
time for the evolution of reality. I mean, you had
game shows that you could debate whether game shows sort
of fall under the reality TV category or not. But
in terms of like the actual social reality shows, I
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think the Real World and Survivor were the two most
defining moments in the evolution of reality. Real World was
ninety two that, I mean, that was how many shows
are on TV now that are ultimately like ultimately modeled
after the real world concept of like people living together,
doing something together, cameras following them around all the time.
(08:12):
The whole concept of the confessional where you're talking separately
about things that happened, and then Survivor just blew it
up with I mean that was that was the first
big prime time je propes.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He's still doing it right. I don't know. I believe
never watched one episode of Survivor in my life. I
don't think I've watched season one. But you like Richard Hatch,
you know that name right? He was the naked guy.
There's a Boston guy. Oh, Boston rob. Yeah, that's it.
That's my unpopular funny. He was on deal or No.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Deal Island with a woman, the woman who won Sequester,
the reality show I was on, was on Dealer No
Deal Island with Boston Rubb. So I'm like two degrees
of separation from Boston rub So.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
We're gonna go with mine first, my my go of
reality television first, and is on the list. It's in
the top ten. I want you to guess. If you
guess correctly, I will play the Power Rangers theme song,
what a.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So much pressure?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'm gonna go real world, real world? Yeah, I got it.
This means I got it right? You did? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I figured that'd be more fun than the day. It's
fair shout out to Pink to the Pink Power Ranger Kimberly.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, Real World is it for me? Yeah? I wasn't.
I wasn't really in the demo.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I was a little too young when it first came
out nineteen ninety two, first season.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Young, I mean I was eleven. Yeah when it came out.
I feel like some of the things they're talking about
wasn't being discussed in fifth grade, right.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Fair, I mean that's how I felt with friends. I
loved it from the beginning, but I didn't have you know,
all half the jokes were going.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Over my head sidebar. The last episode was on last night.
A friend here up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So anyways, the irony of my goat of reality TV,
Real World, is that's the TV show that kind of
put an end to music videos on m TV because
once that started, MTV's like, yo, people would rather watch this.
Our ratings are up, we're gonna start doing more original
programming and playing less and less music videos. But I
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loved it, man, it was It was very innovative. We
got to see people like literally living their lives in
front of the camera. They came from all walks, of life.
It was really the first television show that dealt with
real life issues because there are real people like sex, religion, aids, politics,
substance abuse, all these things. So the Real World I
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was hooked. I was hooked from from day one. Some
of the some of the seasons, New York, the first one,
San Francisco. I loved Boston obviously, I'm an East Coast guy.
Originally New Orleans was one of my favorite. I don't
know how much Real World you watched, you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Know, it was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I don't know if I could recall like specific people
from specific seasons, but oh yeah, I mean I got
super into I mean I think when we were teenagers
and college kids. It's just such and there's so much
touching on dating culture and just like growing up having
a job. Like it was very like relatable, like you
kind of almost like looked up to them as much
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as they as much train wrecks as many of them were.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well that's what it was. It looked like, Wow, the
Real World is one big party. I can't wait. Yeah,
it kind of became that actually a little bit for
both of us. For a time.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Philadelphia was probably my favorite season of all of them,
let's see. And then they came to Chicago twice, I
believe twice. Maybe maybe The last time they came was
we were here working in this building and they had
camera crews with some of the cast come to the
beach club bar that we broadcast castaways.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Were you there? I must have been there. So I
was hosting this big each party. All of a sudden
here comes MTV. I weren't Did they ever come into
this office? It wasn't this obviously, I feel like they were.
They came into the interviews.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, I don't know, but I know that I for
like thirty seconds, was on an episode I found myself
on the Real World.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I was hosting.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We've both been on reality TV, right right? I think
I was hosting a hot body contest. Yeah, okay, those
aren't castaways. Yeah, it's new, and you know it's it's
been renovated.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's classic or class.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
The bathrooms are not though. They gotta fix this makes sense.
Uh yeah, So that that's for that's for me, Real
World man.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And it was cool.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Part two is each season was a different city, so
you got to like see what, you know, what New
Orleans was like with Seattle's leg is It is a
pretty cool concept, first of its kind, spun off.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I think, like you mentioned before.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The rules like came directly from it on MTV. But yeah,
I mean, so much of reality TV to this day
is concepts that started with real Right, So.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Real World is my goat of reality television, and Dan
is going to tell us his and if I guess
it right, I'm just going to play the day because
only one power ranger can play.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Anybody who has been friends with me for more than
a few months is gonna gets this right.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
For a few days. Yeah, that is a first date discussion.
Glanced at my social media for more than two seconds.
Give the people what your goat is. It's Big Brother.
Big Brother.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It started in two thousand. I have not missed an
episode since season one, and I want to say they're
on They're about twenty five seasons in wow commitment. Yeah,
and mind you it's on three days a week. It's
heavy commitment. And you know, so when you talk about
how real reality TV is and I say that it varies,
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show to show the reason I say that is, I mean,
to me, one of the things I love about Big
Brother is it's a lot more real than some other shows,
and the reason being it's on three days a week.
One of the three episodes is truly live. It's fair
the eviction is happening live. And on top of that TV, Yeah,
no exactly, And on top of that, the entire house
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dozens of cameras are streaming live on the internet twenty
four to seven. So even the episodes that are recaps
of what happened over the past two or three days,
you have diehard fans, like thousands and thousands and thousands
of them watching these live feeds twenty four to seven,
posting clips on the internet.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So even the parts that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Are edited, it can't really be edited unfairly because if
it were like the die hard fans are gonna revolt,
and you know, there's some obviously there's still some storytelling involved,
and sometimes the fans do get upset that maybe this
one scene wasn't portrayed exactly as it happened, or was
toned down a little bit for network TV or whatever.
But like by and large, you're getting a recap because
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everything that they're doing, everything that they're doing is caught
on camera.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Do they is there any situation where they can find
a like a dark spot where there's no cameras, like
a corner, so there.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Are if you go into the bathroom, the cameras are
the cameras. They don't have cameras in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They're turned off. But I want to say they definitely
have a microphone, if not a camera, it's turned off.
But like I think you know that, like if you
were first off, it's like the tiniest little stall ever,
Like you're not gonna be going.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I don't want people to hear me in the bathroom.
That's all I'm thinking about. No, but the entire place
is is is Mike did and camera?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay, A couple more questions, Yeah, how long are they
in the Big Brother House?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
For the show lasts about three months, so they usually
start with like sixteen or eighteen people. They generally more
or less vote one person out a week. And Yep, no,
go ahead. I was going to say, and is there
an age limit to be on the show? When I
first started applying, the deadline of the two thousand and
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three Big Brother application was the day of my birthday,
of my twenty first birthday, Okay, so I overnighted a
VHS tape to arrive on the day of my birthday,
because that was the deadline and the first.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Day I was eligible to apply for the show.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow, I think they might have lower I think it's
fluctuated between eighteen and twenty one, but it's generally been
twenty the cutoff age.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
No, and there's.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Typically at least one or two older people you know,
up up to sixties in there. They often don't last
terribly long because they have a trouble winning the physical
challenges and or connecting with the you know, twenty and
thirty year olds in the house. Yeah, but it's what
I love about it. It's a giant social experiment. You're
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watching out, you know, watching play out in real time.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's the realist of the reality.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And you'll see the most the coolest, most unlikely of friendships.
You know, you'll see some like dorky twenty five year
old and some like former Miss America in her mid thirties,
like become the unlikeliest of friends. You just get a
lot of inner, interesting friendships, a lot of interesting enemies
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and everything in between.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now, compared to my go of reality TV, which revolves
around getting drunk and hooking up, is there any of these?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There's alcohol sometimes there's definitely hooking up. Tried to attempted
subtly under the covers that usually there's still clips end
up on YouTube. I love like the black light or
whatever they have when they in the middle of the
day you can see yeah, yeah you can. They have
the cameras are set so that you can even if
all the lights are out, you can see it moving
up and down. So I have applied to get every year.
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So they have casting calls in Chicago often too. My
good friend Hudah and I, you know Huda, she and
I would go to casting calls every year and one year,
uh probably about ten years ago now we were taken back.
You go to these casting calls, they're at a bar,
you get a number, there's hundreds of people there and
you know, you drink, you mingle, and then they take
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you back. You literally have two minutes to talk talk
to a casting director. There's it's it's timpably like six
people at once. Those six people will have their two
minute window to talk to the casting director. It's super quick.
Each person maybe gets to answer one or two questions
for a few seconds and then they're like goodbye, we'll
call You'll get a call by midnight to night.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
If you've advanced to the next director that quick. Yeah,
they picked that quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So ten years ago, I have not advanced. I've advanced
in some other Uh. Real, I did you know that I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Advanced pretty far from married at first sight? You did?
No way? Yeah, also in Chicago, Yeah, for the Chicago season.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Never told me that I did. Yeah, I try to
keep that from people. Oh, you weren't allowed to talk
about it at the time. I think, I think now
it's fine. I assume, Oh, imagine you being married right now.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You get me on the show. There would have been
cameras following me around my job here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
But so, uh, one year, about ten years ago, Huda
and I were a group of six and you know,
you're everybody super friendly and out going obviously at these
types of things to be noticed. Yeah, so we befriended
the group of that we were taken back with like
we often do. And this was probably like March, and
then cut to likely June July. CBS does a press
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release with the cast of that year, and I get
a text from who to freaking out because one of
the people in our group of six is on the
show and it turned out to be his name's Andy Harron.
He ended up winning that season, he won the half million,
and you know, we got in touch with him after
he got out of When you're in the house, you
can't you have zero contact with the outside world. So
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he wins, he gets out, we get back in contact
with him. He actually invited Hohodah and me and who
his boyfriend at the time, my girlfriend at the time,
went to like he hosted like a house party with
the entire cast to like celebrate him winning. And we
went and you know, met the whole cast and and
you know, we were we were close for years after that,
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and so that's how that was my connection to Sequester.
A few years ago, a woman named Audrey was on
a season. She also lived in Chicago, and so after
she got off the show, she befriended Andy, and I
met Audrey through Andy, and Audrey started running these this
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these like amateur online reality games, and she was so
passionate about it, did such an amazing job building this
huge community that she ended up with through I think
like GoFundMe or one of those crowdsourcing things, she raised
enough money to start actually actually filming her own in
person reality shows. So I was on the first season
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was sort of a test run with people from this community,
and then I was cast on the second season along
with there were a handful of people from US and
Canada Big Brother, someone from the US Amazing Race, and
then you know, fourteen other Rando's life like me. Who
were we We flew down to Atlanta. We they took
our cell phones from us. We were cut off from
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the outside world and.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
For a week we were.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Doing Big Big Brother type stuff. The rules were a
little different, and it is obviously a lot more fast
paced because the whole thing played out in a week, right,
But we were doing physical competitions, we were strategizing, socializing,
voting each other out, the whole shebang. There were people
who were on Big Brother and either the people on
Big Brother on our cast said that in a lot
of ways like this experience was more intense because it
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all went there was it went so quickly, and we
were going till three am every night, getting up at
six seven am in the morning to start the next day,
like barely sleeping. It was.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It was wild. So I'm Big Brother. You're there for
three months? About you said yes, if you bank you
could be there for a day. If you're first voted off,
what was your plan if you got casted with work?
What would you do? Like, how would you take three
You can't take three months off?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Would you just have to apologies to my If he's listening,
he probably I'm sure he knows this already.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Everybody who knows me knows this.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But I mean, it's been such a lifelong dream of
mine that if it ever happened, you know, the rest
would figure itself out.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Gotch.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean obviously in an ideal world, I would, you know,
take some sort of leave. You know, things would get
covered and I would go back to you know, I'm
certainly not looking to leave my job.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I would love to come back to it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You have to have a good relationship with your employer
to understand the situation, which is what a lot of
these these right, these stars of these exte must have,
oh for sure, or just some people quit or just
I just quit, or you can have.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The end of the day.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You know, if I had to do you know, if
I had to do that to I'd figure out the
next step. I don't think it would come to that,
but ask forgiveness later, Yeah, right, ask for what does
it ask for? Forgiveness, not permission, permission later? Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Well that's cool. Okay, So Big Brother is yours? Yeah,
do you have anything else?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Let no, I mean I would say, similarly to.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The real world, I think Big Other really changed the
the reality game in that it was the first.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
It was the first type of.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Anything where you had like internet only content, people were
paying to subscribe to live feeds to watch it live.
I think a lot of the dynamics of competition and
reality show, a lot of the the social gameplay, like
it really you know, formed a lot of that. And
and you also saw what you see with a lot
of reality shows were like it didn't get the huge
(23:30):
it's never gotten the hugest ratings. It's never been something
that like masses of America were watching. But it has
a big enough audience, and its audience is so loyal
and so committed to the show that it's it's lasted
like literally a quarter of a century high passion. And
so do you plan your schedule around the show or
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do you just DVR GVR? Yeah, you know, if there's
a big episode that I want to watch live, so
I don't get spoiled. You know, before I get a
chance to see it, I might set aside a Thursday
night to watch with a friend or whatever. But uh,
it's it's one of those like you have to It's
not a show you can you know, watch an episode
here or there, like you're either watching it or anything.
(24:11):
And if you're into it, you're watching it three nights
a week. You have you know, you know everything about
everybody on it and you're just obsessed.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
What's when I like better about your goat of reality
TV over mine is there is no cutoff age when
I turn I think, I was like, what is the
cutoff when I when I think it was like twenty eight.
So when I was like twenty nine, I'm like, I'm
too old for the Real World. I'm getting old.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They should do a Real World forties edition. I'd watch it.
I'd go on it.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Would we have we have plenty of time. All right,
let's do it. All right, that is it for this podcast.
Now we need to know what you think. What is
the reality TV show goat in your opinion? We gave ours,
by the way, Big Brothers seventeen on the list, number seventeen, okay,
in the top best that have made the list and
Shark Tank in the top top time.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I'm obsessed with Shark sure now, oh my god, yeah,
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'll look back on all things nineties and two thousands,
the movies, what do they call it, Big Man.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Big Max, Big Mac, but they call it the Big Man,
a Big Mac, The music, the awkwardness, you fire, you're fired,
You fired, you fired, you fire.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You fire.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Here's your host, Brady Broski looks so disappointed. Over there.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I've left flashbacks to when Trump fired Annie the poker
player instead of Joan Rivers, and at the time I
thought it was the worst thing Trump had ever done,
ever fired. Uh, yeah, we didn't know what the next
twenty years we're going to bring.
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We didn't need the work at all, and we had
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Yeah. Speaking of which, I made out with a forty
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Speaker 1 (02:14):
Welcome. How are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
This is gonna be a fun, fun podcast episode because
it's something that you have actually personally experienced.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Of the two people in the room to count that,
I mean arguably.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, so what the podcast is We're asking each other
and you the listener, what is your personal goat of
reality television? Not what you think the world thinks, because
that would probably come back Survivor, I would think that
would be number one. That's number one on the listen.
I'm about to read yep, But what is your personal one? Now,
Dan here, our friend was part of a internet reality.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Shn you talk about it? No, no, no, it's it's public,
it's out the episodes are still out there. I remember
when you left you were being very well, No, I
couldn't talk about it then.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Was on YouTube. I want to say it was on
Amazon Prime Video for a time.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I don't know that. I don't know if it still is,
but yeah, I was on a very uh you know not.
It wasn't on network television or any television. Was it
low budget? Lower budget?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But you know it got at one point years ago
it had episodes had like fifty thousand views, so I think,
you know it's it probably somewhat more than that now,
So you know, it wasn't that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It wasn't nothing, but it wasn't major. Are you comfortable
saying the name of the show.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Of course, it was called Sequester and where I mean
you were. This is probably going to give away what
my TV pick is going to be. Oh yeah, you
should we tell the next I'll hold off. We'll get
back to this, but that's a good tease.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Anyways, you can tell us how you did on the show,
is sure, the whole antics was been. I actually want
to know, like what it's like to be with a crew,
in a camera crew when you're almost living in a
homeless strangers essentially.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well I was. There were There were twenty of us
on that show, and five of the twenty had been
on either The Amazing Race or Big Brother previously, so
we had, you know, experience reality reality TV stars in
as part of our cast.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Now, all that being said, I want to preface today's
episode by saying, reality TV, this is my opinion, is
not real.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Not real at all.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
In fact, I have a hard time believing anything is
real these days. So if there's a camera crew in there,
then there's probably a director, then there's probably a producer,
and guess what, there's probably writers.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I generally agree with you, I have some thoughts that. Again,
I'm not going to spoil my pick yet, but we'll
get it. We'll get into it, Okay, but I generally
I will I'll just say this, it depends on the
show some more than others. I mean, I think I
think reality TV for the past, you know, nineties and
two thousands all the way straight through today runs the
gamut from like fully scripted to fully unscripted.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And everywhere in between, depending on the show. Okay, I
mean you're the expert on the show. Well, we'll get
into it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
These are Variety magazines Variety dot COM's list of the
top ten of all time. Okay, top ten reality shows.
Ten is Taxi Cab Confessions.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's fair. I mean they need to bring that back
and do uber lyft right. That was like syndicated. I
think for like a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It was a while. It was ahead of its time. Yeah,
Real Housewives Franchise nine again, not not real. The Amazing
Race number eight. It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The Amazing Race probably the most critically acclaimed reality show
of all time. It's won a bunch of Emmys. I
haven't watched a ton of it, but I think it's
considered a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
More like why do you think it around? Why do
you think it won so many Emmys because of the concept.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, I think there's a lot more.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You're like kind of learning about world cultures a little bit,
traveling the globe.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't know that. That's not Mindless TV.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I know that and RuPaul's Drag Race are like always
winning Emmys for the reality show RuPaul's Drag Race.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Is that on the list? Not in the top ten? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
No, I'm sorry, it's coming up. Okay, I had to
keep scrolling. Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Seven is Project Runway. I feel like that's critically a
claim too. I think that sounds well.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Number six this was I forgot about this one the mole, remember.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, there was one person secretly working against you and
you had to identify them.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Number five American Idol. That's probably the goat of I mean,
we can go the whole episode just on American Idol
and we will.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Or or on bo Bice losing to Carrie Underwood. Are
you still about that? He just popped up on my
phone here? Like why is bo Byce here?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Justin? How about? Just how about? Is an episode on
Runners Up? Just wait?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He didn't know David art to lett A lost to
David Cook, right right? Clay Aikin, Yeah, Clay ake in
a decent career. Fantasia did she.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wish she won? Okay, yeah, Chicago's I think Chicago's on, right,
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Maybe, I don't know. Number worldwide, We don't know. We'll
get into American Idol for sure on later.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So number four Top Chef, I never really watched that
same here's RuPaul's drag Race.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Number three three. Yeah, I was gonna say, I had
to be on there.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Number two The Real World, that's a good one. And
number one Survivor, Yeah, wellever So.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's I think those are very deserving top two and
I think if you're talking because speaking of the topic
of this podcast, nineties and two thousands a very defining
time for the evolution of reality. I mean, you had
game shows that you could debate whether game shows sort
of fall under the reality TV category or not. But
in terms of like the actual social reality shows, I
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think the Real World and Survivor were the two most
defining moments in the evolution of reality. Real World was
ninety two that, I mean, that was how many shows
are on TV now that are ultimately like ultimately modeled
after the real world concept of like people living together,
doing something together, cameras following them around all the time.
(08:12):
The whole concept of the confessional where you're talking separately
about things that happened, and then Survivor just blew it
up with I mean that was that was the first
big prime time je propes.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He's still doing it right. I don't know. I believe
never watched one episode of Survivor in my life. I
don't think I've watched season one. But you like Richard Hatch,
you know that name right? He was the naked guy.
There's a Boston guy. Oh, Boston rob. Yeah, that's it.
That's my unpopular funny. He was on deal or No.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Deal Island with a woman, the woman who won Sequester,
the reality show I was on, was on Dealer No
Deal Island with Boston Rubb. So I'm like two degrees
of separation from Boston rub So.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
We're gonna go with mine first, my my go of
reality television first, and is on the list. It's in
the top ten. I want you to guess. If you
guess correctly, I will play the Power Rangers theme song,
what a.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So much pressure?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'm gonna go real world, real world? Yeah, I got it.
This means I got it right? You did? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I figured that'd be more fun than the day. It's
fair shout out to Pink to the Pink Power Ranger Kimberly.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, Real World is it for me? Yeah? I wasn't.
I wasn't really in the demo.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I was a little too young when it first came
out nineteen ninety two, first season.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Young, I mean I was eleven. Yeah when it came out.
I feel like some of the things they're talking about
wasn't being discussed in fifth grade, right.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Fair, I mean that's how I felt with friends. I
loved it from the beginning, but I didn't have you know,
all half the jokes were going.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Over my head sidebar. The last episode was on last night.
A friend here up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So anyways, the irony of my goat of reality TV,
Real World, is that's the TV show that kind of
put an end to music videos on m TV because
once that started, MTV's like, yo, people would rather watch this.
Our ratings are up, we're gonna start doing more original
programming and playing less and less music videos. But I
(10:24):
loved it, man, it was It was very innovative. We
got to see people like literally living their lives in
front of the camera. They came from all walks, of life.
It was really the first television show that dealt with
real life issues because there are real people like sex, religion, aids, politics,
substance abuse, all these things. So the Real World I
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was hooked. I was hooked from from day one. Some
of the some of the seasons, New York, the first one,
San Francisco. I loved Boston obviously, I'm an East Coast guy.
Originally New Orleans was one of my favorite. I don't
know how much Real World you watched, you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Know, it was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I don't know if I could recall like specific people
from specific seasons, but oh yeah, I mean I got
super into I mean I think when we were teenagers
and college kids. It's just such and there's so much
touching on dating culture and just like growing up having
a job. Like it was very like relatable, like you
kind of almost like looked up to them as much
(11:21):
as they as much train wrecks as many of them were.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well that's what it was. It looked like, Wow, the
Real World is one big party. I can't wait. Yeah,
it kind of became that actually a little bit for
both of us. For a time.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Philadelphia was probably my favorite season of all of them,
let's see. And then they came to Chicago twice, I
believe twice. Maybe maybe The last time they came was
we were here working in this building and they had
camera crews with some of the cast come to the
beach club bar that we broadcast castaways.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Were you there? I must have been there. So I
was hosting this big each party. All of a sudden
here comes MTV. I weren't Did they ever come into
this office? It wasn't this obviously, I feel like they were.
They came into the interviews.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, I don't know, but I know that I for
like thirty seconds, was on an episode I found myself
on the Real World.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I was hosting.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We've both been on reality TV, right right? I think
I was hosting a hot body contest. Yeah, okay, those
aren't castaways. Yeah, it's new, and you know it's it's
been renovated.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's classic or class.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
The bathrooms are not though. They gotta fix this makes sense.
Uh yeah, So that that's for that's for me, Real
World man.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And it was cool.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Part two is each season was a different city, so
you got to like see what, you know, what New
Orleans was like with Seattle's leg is It is a
pretty cool concept, first of its kind, spun off.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I think, like you mentioned before.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The rules like came directly from it on MTV. But yeah,
I mean, so much of reality TV to this day
is concepts that started with real Right, So.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Real World is my goat of reality television, and Dan
is going to tell us his and if I guess
it right, I'm just going to play the day because
only one power ranger can play.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Anybody who has been friends with me for more than
a few months is gonna gets this right.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
For a few days. Yeah, that is a first date discussion.
Glanced at my social media for more than two seconds.
Give the people what your goat is. It's Big Brother.
Big Brother.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It started in two thousand. I have not missed an
episode since season one, and I want to say they're
on They're about twenty five seasons in wow commitment. Yeah,
and mind you it's on three days a week. It's
heavy commitment. And you know, so when you talk about
how real reality TV is and I say that it varies,
(13:49):
show to show the reason I say that is, I mean,
to me, one of the things I love about Big
Brother is it's a lot more real than some other shows,
and the reason being it's on three days a week.
One of the three episodes is truly live. It's fair
the eviction is happening live. And on top of that TV, Yeah,
no exactly, And on top of that, the entire house
(14:11):
dozens of cameras are streaming live on the internet twenty
four to seven. So even the episodes that are recaps
of what happened over the past two or three days,
you have diehard fans, like thousands and thousands and thousands
of them watching these live feeds twenty four to seven,
posting clips on the internet.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So even the parts that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Are edited, it can't really be edited unfairly because if
it were like the die hard fans are gonna revolt,
and you know, there's some obviously there's still some storytelling involved,
and sometimes the fans do get upset that maybe this
one scene wasn't portrayed exactly as it happened, or was
toned down a little bit for network TV or whatever.
But like by and large, you're getting a recap because
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everything that they're doing, everything that they're doing is caught
on camera.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Do they is there any situation where they can find
a like a dark spot where there's no cameras, like
a corner, so there.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Are if you go into the bathroom, the cameras are
the cameras. They don't have cameras in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They're turned off. But I want to say they definitely
have a microphone, if not a camera, it's turned off.
But like I think you know that, like if you
were first off, it's like the tiniest little stall ever,
Like you're not gonna be going.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I don't want people to hear me in the bathroom.
That's all I'm thinking about. No, but the entire place
is is is Mike did and camera?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay, A couple more questions, Yeah, how long are they
in the Big Brother House?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
For the show lasts about three months, so they usually
start with like sixteen or eighteen people. They generally more
or less vote one person out a week. And Yep, no,
go ahead. I was going to say, and is there
an age limit to be on the show? When I
first started applying, the deadline of the two thousand and
(15:53):
three Big Brother application was the day of my birthday,
of my twenty first birthday, Okay, so I overnighted a
VHS tape to arrive on the day of my birthday,
because that was the deadline and the first.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Day I was eligible to apply for the show.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow, I think they might have lower I think it's
fluctuated between eighteen and twenty one, but it's generally been
twenty the cutoff age.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
No, and there's.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Typically at least one or two older people you know,
up up to sixties in there. They often don't last
terribly long because they have a trouble winning the physical
challenges and or connecting with the you know, twenty and
thirty year olds in the house. Yeah, but it's what
I love about it. It's a giant social experiment. You're
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watching out, you know, watching play out in real time.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's the realist of the reality.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And you'll see the most the coolest, most unlikely of friendships.
You know, you'll see some like dorky twenty five year
old and some like former Miss America in her mid thirties,
like become the unlikeliest of friends. You just get a
lot of inner, interesting friendships, a lot of interesting enemies
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and everything in between.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now, compared to my go of reality TV, which revolves
around getting drunk and hooking up, is there any of these?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There's alcohol sometimes there's definitely hooking up. Tried to attempted
subtly under the covers that usually there's still clips end
up on YouTube. I love like the black light or
whatever they have when they in the middle of the
day you can see yeah, yeah you can. They have
the cameras are set so that you can even if
all the lights are out, you can see it moving
up and down. So I have applied to get every year.
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So they have casting calls in Chicago often too. My
good friend Hudah and I, you know Huda, she and
I would go to casting calls every year and one year,
uh probably about ten years ago now we were taken back.
You go to these casting calls, they're at a bar,
you get a number, there's hundreds of people there and
you know, you drink, you mingle, and then they take
(17:57):
you back. You literally have two minutes to talk talk
to a casting director. There's it's it's timpably like six
people at once. Those six people will have their two
minute window to talk to the casting director. It's super quick.
Each person maybe gets to answer one or two questions
for a few seconds and then they're like goodbye, we'll
call You'll get a call by midnight to night.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
If you've advanced to the next director that quick. Yeah,
they picked that quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So ten years ago, I have not advanced. I've advanced
in some other Uh. Real, I did you know that I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Advanced pretty far from married at first sight? You did?
No way? Yeah, also in Chicago, Yeah, for the Chicago season.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Never told me that I did. Yeah, I try to
keep that from people. Oh, you weren't allowed to talk
about it at the time. I think, I think now
it's fine. I assume, Oh, imagine you being married right now.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You get me on the show. There would have been
cameras following me around my job here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
But so, uh, one year, about ten years ago, Huda
and I were a group of six and you know,
you're everybody super friendly and out going obviously at these
types of things to be noticed. Yeah, so we befriended
the group of that we were taken back with like
we often do. And this was probably like March, and
then cut to likely June July. CBS does a press
(19:19):
release with the cast of that year, and I get
a text from who to freaking out because one of
the people in our group of six is on the
show and it turned out to be his name's Andy Harron.
He ended up winning that season, he won the half million,
and you know, we got in touch with him after
he got out of When you're in the house, you
can't you have zero contact with the outside world. So
(19:41):
he wins, he gets out, we get back in contact
with him. He actually invited Hohodah and me and who
his boyfriend at the time, my girlfriend at the time,
went to like he hosted like a house party with
the entire cast to like celebrate him winning. And we
went and you know, met the whole cast and and
you know, we were we were close for years after that,
(20:02):
and so that's how that was my connection to Sequester.
A few years ago, a woman named Audrey was on
a season. She also lived in Chicago, and so after
she got off the show, she befriended Andy, and I
met Audrey through Andy, and Audrey started running these this
(20:23):
these like amateur online reality games, and she was so
passionate about it, did such an amazing job building this
huge community that she ended up with through I think
like GoFundMe or one of those crowdsourcing things, she raised
enough money to start actually actually filming her own in
person reality shows. So I was on the first season
(20:46):
was sort of a test run with people from this community,
and then I was cast on the second season along
with there were a handful of people from US and
Canada Big Brother, someone from the US Amazing Race, and
then you know, fourteen other Rando's life like me. Who
were we We flew down to Atlanta. We they took
our cell phones from us. We were cut off from
(21:06):
the outside world and.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
For a week we were.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Doing Big Big Brother type stuff. The rules were a
little different, and it is obviously a lot more fast
paced because the whole thing played out in a week, right,
But we were doing physical competitions, we were strategizing, socializing,
voting each other out, the whole shebang. There were people
who were on Big Brother and either the people on
Big Brother on our cast said that in a lot
of ways like this experience was more intense because it
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all went there was it went so quickly, and we
were going till three am every night, getting up at
six seven am in the morning to start the next day,
like barely sleeping. It was.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It was wild. So I'm Big Brother. You're there for
three months? About you said yes, if you bank you
could be there for a day. If you're first voted off,
what was your plan if you got casted with work?
What would you do? Like, how would you take three
You can't take three months off?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Would you just have to apologies to my If he's listening,
he probably I'm sure he knows this already.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Everybody who knows me knows this.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But I mean, it's been such a lifelong dream of
mine that if it ever happened, you know, the rest
would figure itself out.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Gotch.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean obviously in an ideal world, I would, you know,
take some sort of leave. You know, things would get
covered and I would go back to you know, I'm
certainly not looking to leave my job.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I would love to come back to it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You have to have a good relationship with your employer
to understand the situation, which is what a lot of
these these right, these stars of these exte must have,
oh for sure, or just some people quit or just
I just quit, or you can have.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The end of the day.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You know, if I had to do you know, if
I had to do that to I'd figure out the
next step. I don't think it would come to that,
but ask forgiveness later, Yeah, right, ask for what does
it ask for? Forgiveness, not permission, permission later? Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Well that's cool. Okay, So Big Brother is yours? Yeah,
do you have anything else?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Let no, I mean I would say, similarly to.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The real world, I think Big Other really changed the
the reality game in that it was the first.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
It was the first type of.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Anything where you had like internet only content, people were
paying to subscribe to live feeds to watch it live.
I think a lot of the dynamics of competition and
reality show, a lot of the the social gameplay, like
it really you know, formed a lot of that. And
and you also saw what you see with a lot
of reality shows were like it didn't get the huge
(23:30):
it's never gotten the hugest ratings. It's never been something
that like masses of America were watching. But it has
a big enough audience, and its audience is so loyal
and so committed to the show that it's it's lasted
like literally a quarter of a century high passion. And
so do you plan your schedule around the show or
(23:51):
do you just DVR GVR? Yeah, you know, if there's
a big episode that I want to watch live, so
I don't get spoiled. You know, before I get a
chance to see it, I might set aside a Thursday
night to watch with a friend or whatever. But uh,
it's it's one of those like you have to It's
not a show you can you know, watch an episode
here or there, like you're either watching it or anything.
(24:11):
And if you're into it, you're watching it three nights
a week. You have you know, you know everything about
everybody on it and you're just obsessed.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
What's when I like better about your goat of reality
TV over mine is there is no cutoff age when
I turn I think, I was like, what is the
cutoff when I when I think it was like twenty eight.
So when I was like twenty nine, I'm like, I'm
too old for the Real World. I'm getting old.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They should do a Real World forties edition. I'd watch it.
I'd go on it.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Would we have we have plenty of time. All right,
let's do it. All right, that is it for this podcast.
Now we need to know what you think. What is
the reality TV show goat in your opinion? We gave ours,
by the way, Big Brothers seventeen on the list, number seventeen, okay,
in the top best that have made the list and
Shark Tank in the top top time.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I'm obsessed with Shark sure now, oh my god, yeah,
let us know what we did on Instagram. You can
find me. I'm at Brady Radio at dan G zero
four eight to two.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And until next time, make sure you do all the
things you can follow and you'd like and things write.
Subscribe is that one?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Subscribe?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Share?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Share?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I always share, and remember, I'm gonna sign us off
like they do every episode of Live Big Brother, Love
one another, good night, Go Go Power Rangers.
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