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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And as your time in the league kind of started
coming to the night, when did you know, like, hey,
I'm I'm probably done. And at what point did you
say I want to transition into maybe coaching.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh well, if I did. First, I was grave constraated
me doing the game. I tell them, they tell him
to do tell him to the defense. So I'm over,
he broke do this. And then something have been doing
in the game where I'm telling the referee like, no,
he can't do that because do this, telling me I
think he'll be a good Referee's like I'll be a
(00:34):
good police officer for the month.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And so they all like, all right, I'm a coach
that moment you said referring but I will I will coach,
And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I mean obviously like I got buddies who played collegeball.
They're doing the G eight and they be a you know,
assistant position coach and the position coach, and you become you
go up the rankings, Like did you when you said, hey,
I want to coach, was.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It like I'm only coaching in the league. I didn't
want to lay college. When I first tried to know
reaching out to a whole bunch of coaches. I did
reach out to college coaching.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I reached out to uh Izon and does somebody was
on and he was like, I mean, I mean, I
can try to fight you something.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It was like march a somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't know if the college schedule, how they get
started in the off season. So he was like, I
might have some you know, some some spider on the
on the staff for you, but you gotta get g
a because I didn't graduate.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I got left school before I gratuate. You were that's hard.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think that was the last time I thought about
coaching colle so then I just started. I mean I
already ended up all on the field, you know GMS,
I was with coaches, I was with uh and didn't
just once from there and did uh the Bill Washington
turned fellowship with with them with the Rams got in
the game because I definitely went I.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Did that know is the what's the goal? Now? Do
you want to be a head coach? Do you want
to be a friend.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I would want to be a coach obviously, when when
the time get there, long learning process, long way. So
I told me my next goal is to be especially
in coordinator. Soon after that, I'm trying to I'm trying
to close defense. I'm already working on that as we
speak about, trying to get a ready for that, because
I want to be able to coach defense. I try
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to jump all. He even told me, like in offense,
you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
The more you know.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So I'm trying to and those in the office side
of the ball, even though it's crazy, it's not even that.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I wouldn't even say.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's just installed language, yes, because you're not even talking
to everybody when you're installars. You literally talk if you're
in the office and the team, the offensive team meet
and y'all, y'all literally talking to one set of people
once like a.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Whole life.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Y'all just got this. Everybody else, Hey, I mean I
get that part, but then it's where you're talking to
the whole old line and there and the tight end
and then there's like all right.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Receivers whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, I get it, But no, defense don't work
like that.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's hard, bro.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
This crazy, And that's why I think I started so
kean Downe like this. I think that's why I think
defense played smarter than office of place.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That's at because that's a we have one word.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You get one word and then from that one just
won't work because so you got over Sam three Okay,
you know got the over front Sam. He oftenly come
up and playing a version of three or five zone
in the back end. Not within all of that. You
still got to no a move there. We gotta do this.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
If they go empty, we check it out to our whole.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, I understand autan got They look killed when they
announced them players, And you want to say one person
there you got this one. Some people that got this one,
some people that got that once people are get that, ye.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Are real to go. Notice that count fair not? I
think when you got the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
When I run a bottle and being from a white
out perspective, like okay, if I have a certain route,
you run in a certain way. If a back or
fear or safety does that, or a quarter will does this.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's like.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And I can't watch I'm sure the same way like
Thursday night football on my couch.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I can't just watch football like I'm It's as if
I'm watching fill right, so I'll see, okay, the slot
is doing this like that means the backside receivers probably
doing that in the running backs cooking up.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Because realistically everyone's going to space. That's what we want
to do.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And I agree with you where I do think defensive
players are very smart.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
You know you watch those clips of like Tom Brady
and the Belichick talking about Ed Reid and how Ed
Reid purposely up a week before so when they watched
philm he thinks that he does this genius and then
he does that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Gets a pick against the Patriots here just like yoga.
That's a that, ain't you? That's six smartest scene on
the football field. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I was in coffee back that I would borrow out
of control one year. I'm like, oh, I got a hundred,
I can't tackle. I just looked.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I looked at it like the little absolute keep your
head a hundred football, But what does he throw? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So, if you became a head coach, what would your
like team uh mission statement be hm D bab.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The mission statement?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Like what's the the first day of camp and their
mutual binder?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
What's the what's the.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean, obviously we're gonna have h I'm saying that
we would have you know, play smart puss smart effort, enthusiasm,
the might his one special place. Right after that's gonna
say dem suit d M. S U dem suit d M.
(06:13):
You don't make up. So we're in here and we
talked about how wenna play this. We're gonna do this technique.
This is what we're finna do. I learned that from
part of the greatest live back I mean all the
graces defensive coordinators of all time, Greg Williams.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know yeah, okay, yeah, so running the system I
like that a lot so wrong room. How that come about?
How that startup?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
During COVID will consy, I just started and my best
friend there posting a little comedian in awesome sessions right now. Well,
he was living in his trailer Auntie front yard type,
you know what I'm saying. He was doing that with
him and his own boys comedian partner. I was listening to, well,
I don't even know what it was. It's yeah, I'm
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on instagrat Damn We'll start this. So I'm like, all right,
I'm listening to amazing so game deal brou I. So,
especially in Tennessee, I never got many interviews, but I
learned from my teammates at the Round, like they don't
with the media. So especially when I was open, they
never really came to the locker room. Was always had
a speaker Feka in my locker always always, and everybody
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got around the music for most part.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So you were you were the DJ, DJ who.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Put you on the water too, That's why not. So
I got my speaker in the Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
They come. It's hard because.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Lingold around locker room and that's not how you're supposed
to do. You're supposed to get get in and out.
You got your time out, get out. You're finna go
to pass and boothmart. So I turned into music.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
All the way up. So when you come in interviews
that drown all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So to start, Damn basically turned down his MUSICOPO and.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was more on I got to go.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So it's just always for the whole four years out
of there, you come in locker room, your extra out
being told on me. You know they believe I go
through and they had the same that was verb all
right back down. Nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So you saw it saw that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, Southern boys got the idea of ices. I don't
get the interviews, don't get like nobody knows my store,
like like you know what I'm sing just like me
telling you about me hoop, that's artist because of that,
Like that's that story. You know what I'm saying. Other
but no know that. So it's like I want to
I want to tell my and do it the way
I want to. I don't have to talk what you
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have to tell the story well, and so then I
would just started from there and just kept on going
on your uh build it up to got to a
point where we find the probably going on in the
methods and got back to me out to Nashville and
get the studio, then get my out.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
To get up.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Started getting comedians on that for with nav Greens want
somebody take me? It was my homebo the first started
getting that and then over it like I don't know
what happened in twenty two or two. We just called
on from there. I'm just having all anybody on this. Yeah,
a story, but it's interesting enough. But like you know,
obviously with the following especially ibously, gonna be players. That's
(09:26):
who I really you know, looking for the players or
current players just come on and tell their story and
talk to you know what I'm saying now, I'm instead
of just being so serious about telling my story. I
told him nothing my story. You have to go back
to the old episodes. You want to find out it.
So now we're having fun, you know, saying we got
big back hour, crazy meals. You know what I'm saying.
(09:47):
Cheese came from Yeah, I love that bro. So we
just watching out type of the folk videos we have
every time of some crazy cook and it's like, hey,
would you meet this some mother be like wild and
mother be like you've seen the other day have buffalo baby,
buffalo baby back, Oh fried buffalo baba so b but.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Real breaded fry with buffalo sauce.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I've seen McDonald's fry has chopped up a block of
lights from uh the bread, put butter all on it,
cheese around, Uh jumped it in that rounding fry, so
opening inside, put eggs baby can give it an out,
try for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But there's like some what I want to say, yeah,
but do that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Then we got the other set and called wallom Academy.
We we got the we had uh remember to face
school this sycamore, and we had got the idea of
like make up our own schools just like y'all did.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And so I was like, Hey, that man I did.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm paying called it ballroom the Academy, and I'm saying to
high school kids. Then they send me the highlight tape
because that's what he was telling the day. It was
like sending highlight tape off for d M and that's
how he was signing the players.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I was like, that's the crazy world.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I'm like, yeah, send me take You're gonna sign
you the old academy.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And now so we we out shouted my dog murder
of Mohica.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Mohica is a five eight two hundred and forty five
pounds board. You get me five a two forty five.
I heard you trying this tape on. I'll talking about
nothing but bodies on the floor pulling.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Two days later, No, the next day he got you
offers three. Next day after that he got another off alone.
Steroids returned uh number one. Uh, I am back in
the country, just recrastifying Xavier Crowwell, he sent us this tape.
His freshman year was twenty two, twenty yeah, twenty three,
there was twenty three.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, he sent us his freshman tape. Nice, he going,
he just committed to Alabama the other day. That type
of nice nice.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh, I forgot bro name have a national champion over
out of state. He sent us a tape to commuter
two years ago. We blew him. Polic should be sending
me board money. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We
sending the t shirt. Now we got well, we got
these cards. So you get a car talking my dog,
uh Zach Barlow Legacy cars, you get this cars your
(12:23):
fem and step so you know on somewhere like that,
you get there. We're trying to set up well, we're
gonna fly whoever we got to send me out siding
day type the high.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
School kids fly here, We're gonna turn up.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We're go and have a finer party for you, bunch
around them.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Pickle. You may not know because you don't getting three tickets.
I love that. Yeah, So that's that's been a big
part of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But build two things Like if we go an episode
without doing he going.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What comments quit?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We didn't do one of the last episode right immediately
soon the episode would draw.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, you got to do a big bag out.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So, like you mentioned, Will started doing like bro busting
was one of the reasons I started bringing with you.
I was at a point where I was not being
an athlete anymore, and I love everything Busting was doing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So that was why they worked in my current my
part of wanting to do mine because they were still
playing and I'm on the same He was.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like I was, but but I was like, what I
love is when Will when because Will and Taylor are
funniest when have a guess all the game.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But Will truly does say something like real hell.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Of gag gym And for me, once you're done playing ball,
which I'm sure as you know, once you're done playing,
it's hard, like you got a little I don't care
who you are, like you're you're You've got an empty
place in your.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
In your heart and so like kind of hearing that
was good.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
And what I really appreciate was I was at the
point where I was trying to transition and once you're
done playing bro like half the dudes you played with,
they just they spend all their money, they're living on
their girlfriend's couchs.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
They ain't doing They're losers, right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
The other half are like, yo, I know how to
show up somewhere on the time because I've had to
play football whole life, Like I know how to keep.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Notes because that's what I have to be.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's like and once you get in the real world,
you realize, like there's a lot of people that the
aren't very.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, like you have this dog mentality that you.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Don't even know you have because you think everyone else
has it and they're just normal.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Not hating unormal people that didn't play football highlight. It's
just different.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So if you can take the tools in your tool box,
like you're mentioning and utilize that to business opportunities, networking,
being a good.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Family man, things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
So that's why I started bringing Juice to kind of
like connect that bridge from professional athletes and soccer moms, accountants,
people of own small businesses.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Everyone's a grinder. You know. It's hard to be rich,
it's hard to be poor. It's hard to play football
at a high level. It's hard to coach high school football.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Like choose your right, but regardless, whatever you're gonna do
in this for like oh absolutely.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
And I think like I tried to correlate that, like
getting dudes.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
On if we could tell their stories like yourself, where
it's like yo, I faced diversity, Like maybe people would
go to the Titans stadium or whatever the dadium and
like they see me pat it up, walk in, fit
it up.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Three games, like that's all they see. They don't realize
like the find the scene. That's why. That's what I'm
saying about letting the player.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
If you don't get seen, that don't get the media
high that don't really talk them much. I'm saying I
had it this last night, but we had a three
hour and fifteen minute episode. Because that might really talk
from college all the way to last day in the NFL,
and I ride about these spurry not right water. I
learned about this coach in here and who's it and
(15:57):
by myself like.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's just entertaining, and like sometimes you get a vibe
and then as you know, like I haven't had very
many episodes with dudes who I don't leave and I
consider them like a friend.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Like if I saw you at.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
An airport, we'd immediately go to the Chili's bar chopping up, right.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I I very rarely leave an episode and like that's
not the case. That's sac a dude. I am real.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I was the only white boy wide receiver in
all five years play football for the state. Yet I
walk on a fall where everyone's.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
From Mexico, So I'm very cultured in a lot of
different structures. I all you the Hennessy, You're.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The one who I'm a black surto black messk and
for give me to keep.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I got the I got that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I was trying to be classic today, not an acte
forty two guys.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I just don't like it or gamic whatever, you know,
the whole foods.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
There's some good ones.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Most people don't even know. They think that it's so'ally
as special as supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I do so like. I don't like that's forty two.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I do like I like normally I'll drink class little
on the rocks with little orange slice.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm not a patrol guy. I think patrol Listen, I'm
an easy guy. You got some ice, Jeane, I don't.
I'm not that's that president. But no, like, I agree
with what you said.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And honestly, when you guys started off, I like, I
remember following all on Twitter and talking to one of your.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Pro hosts, uh Jay, Yeah, yeah, I was. I was
messed with gyms. I was trying to meet out like
three years ago. This is dope. So like when when
you were in the locker room with Will.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Would you ask him like, yo, would you talk pond
strategy and whatnot?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
With Will? Yeah? I was.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
That Will, the one we guys in trouble is uh
what I did? I didn't practe her a long backer,
you know. I was there be on brother. He ain't
practice for injury. That wasn't really like usually like out
he ain't practice. You had to walk on down the
build and warn the neck brace with the night brace run.
(18:14):
So I am practice one day because of my here
and nobody like it wasn't in the media and rable
to say nothing about it because it was like late
week in the label whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So he said, you started recording. They are on recording
the wheels.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Like yeah, I mean, dare Base lucause You're like is
that and so yes, it's so variable say so you know,
we don't talk about injuries and the mobile wheels like
I told base Base asked me to say, it's good
I can just say something, and he's like, now you're
gonna do their So we're blowing my phone up like
eleven twelve' card like brouh, he gonna say something.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm scared and scared and then that happened, but it's
I think he deleted it. I gotta say, I'm telling
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's a place of self like me, me sitting there
and then they just like, well if you can't practice me,
I put their neck brace on.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Good days. But yeah, we talked part.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
My best friend Dad postly talked to part well Master
talked part with the other other people that most of
most of the all the talk to part with is
trying to get into the working on their part right now.
I kind of I listen my my, I said with
my podcast, like who I look up to in the
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podcast game would be Joe Budd, Not because like this
is Joe Budd that he cool, No, it is because
the way he gives like he's just just gyms on.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Especially me. I want to be.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Independent, Like I ain't trying to sign on network. I
ain't never done that, never, probably never with Yah, I've
been offered offer playing times like I'm gonna stealing talk
to been going off once. I just say about you
got in the comfort, so I go on because I
learned from them about independence and taking all your money
and we invest in all your money not having to
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give it to outside source.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
So I have an outside source trying to take your
or your money.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
So I led from the youg going from that because
most people are always signed to this person that I
always say they got.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
This, add ad and you three. Even if any if
I do gotta add be just me, just add and
go there here I go. And but I don't read it.
I'm not like that.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I'm just like yo, very, I find a way to
just I guess as soon as I hear somebody say something,
I don't bag.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I'ma tied into that. I tell people so like, but
I don't afford pod. I picture it like a river. Okay, oh,
I can't have to can't make it offwardy what not.
And there's something that I don't know about you. Like
sometimes I interview a dude, you're a natural. It's easy.
But like sometimes you inter be like they're not used
(21:01):
to being on pods. They're a little nervous, like you're
asking them a question. I don't have a problem because
we've got five people on it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, there's no Ne's never been to me and another person.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It's always been three.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking been like no, it's been another
That's why my homeboy come it's just me and you
know what I'm saying, Uh, it's I never did its
like one of my other boys when Jaylen used to
not be able to make it.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's me, me and my color boy and me talking
over the time.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's like it's never It's never been me and another
person I don't know. To me, that's awkward. I could
I wouldn't be like this somebody I don't know, because
then I feel like like not saying that that's someone,
would that be like I will believe so because I'm
just saying like it's like, yeah, I feel like this.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Is real interview with Yes, I have been on that
your side of this where guys are on laptops and
are like reading and I'm like, yeah, like me and
you can judge me, please do. I've been like I
want to make.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Sure that because you have so much interesting about you,
I want to make sure that's why. That's why, like
I said, Joe Budden, is like.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Wheeling them and my homebush instead of like, I don't
know how your studio looking at.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
The crib, but jerseys all over the walls.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, so exactly, so you got this like we got coucies,
you know, what I'm saying, there's five people, three people
behind the scene doing but we drink, we're doing. It's
more of it will be you're gonna feel like it's
gonna get a conversation held.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The room gonna feel like the room, That's what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So it's like the.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Men got a TV in front of you, don't have
to have another look at your phone on. I'd be
the tighter looking us like that's gonna come on boom.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But I ain't that wrong with this. I know how
you do your thing and it's hard. It's also it
is like I said, like, well, I'm most.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Like eighty percent of the time now when I interduced
to La, I've never really met them before.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So having that ability and that's why I you to
do that. No, bro, I really admire what you don't
do our room. Like.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's good when you when you're so used to hosting
a pond, it's good to come on pay air it out,
talk about yourself for a few minutes, tell some stories
here for told in a while, like and me like
I put myself out there, like I talked about.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Any off the Hawaii dude with the clothesline, like like,
I don't think I've told that story before on the part,
but those these times of conversations where it's natural, they
bring that out of you, right and ultimately, like we
call our following the army of Grid, bring the juice,
the army of grit.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
That's who. That's if you're.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Bringing juicy or I know you guys got your your
roomies and whatnot, like we want dudes who are when
you work time after time, you go through it versus
but you overcome a versus quila Hennessy after bro, I
want to celebrate with my boys. I want to go
buy that nice steak at the restaurant, because that's what
life's about.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
That I'm not going to need all the world. I
don't need all the world. You wins, God's God wins,
so debates. I appreciate you sliding today, Brouh. You always
have a seat at my table. We'll come out again.
I'll be out one of these days. But appreciate you
and
And as your time in the league kind of started
coming to the night, when did you know, like, hey,
I'm I'm probably done. And at what point did you
say I want to transition into maybe coaching.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh well, if I did. First, I was grave constraated
me doing the game. I tell them, they tell him
to do tell him to the defense. So I'm over,
he broke do this. And then something have been doing
in the game where I'm telling the referee like, no,
he can't do that because do this, telling me I
think he'll be a good Referee's like I'll be a
(00:34):
good police officer for the month.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And so they all like, all right, I'm a coach
that moment you said referring but I will I will coach,
And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I mean obviously like I got buddies who played collegeball.
They're doing the G eight and they be a you know,
assistant position coach and the position coach, and you become you
go up the rankings, Like did you when you said, hey,
I want to coach, was.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It like I'm only coaching in the league. I didn't
want to lay college. When I first tried to know
reaching out to a whole bunch of coaches. I did
reach out to college coaching.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I reached out to uh Izon and does somebody was
on and he was like, I mean, I mean, I
can try to fight you something.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It was like march a somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't know if the college schedule, how they get
started in the off season. So he was like, I
might have some you know, some some spider on the
on the staff for you, but you gotta get g
a because I didn't graduate.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I got left school before I gratuate. You were that's hard.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think that was the last time I thought about
coaching colle so then I just started. I mean I
already ended up all on the field, you know GMS,
I was with coaches, I was with uh and didn't
just once from there and did uh the Bill Washington
turned fellowship with with them with the Rams got in
the game because I definitely went I.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Did that know is the what's the goal? Now? Do
you want to be a head coach? Do you want
to be a friend.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I would want to be a coach obviously, when when
the time get there, long learning process, long way. So
I told me my next goal is to be especially
in coordinator. Soon after that, I'm trying to I'm trying
to close defense. I'm already working on that as we
speak about, trying to get a ready for that, because
I want to be able to coach defense. I try
(02:26):
to jump all. He even told me, like in offense,
you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
The more you know.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So I'm trying to and those in the office side
of the ball, even though it's crazy, it's not even that.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I wouldn't even say.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's just installed language, yes, because you're not even talking
to everybody when you're installars. You literally talk if you're
in the office and the team, the offensive team meet
and y'all, y'all literally talking to one set of people
once like a.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Whole life.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Y'all just got this. Everybody else, Hey, I mean I
get that part, but then it's where you're talking to
the whole old line and there and the tight end
and then there's like all right.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Receivers whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, I get it, But no, defense don't work
like that.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's hard, bro.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
This crazy, And that's why I think I started so
kean Downe like this. I think that's why I think
defense played smarter than office of place.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That's at because that's a we have one word.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You get one word and then from that one just
won't work because so you got over Sam three Okay,
you know got the over front Sam. He oftenly come
up and playing a version of three or five zone
in the back end. Not within all of that. You
still got to no a move there. We gotta do this.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
If they go empty, we check it out to our whole.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, I understand autan got They look killed when they
announced them players, And you want to say one person
there you got this one. Some people that got this one,
some people that got that once people are get that, ye.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Are real to go. Notice that count fair not? I
think when you got the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
When I run a bottle and being from a white
out perspective, like okay, if I have a certain route,
you run in a certain way. If a back or
fear or safety does that, or a quarter will does this.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's like.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And I can't watch I'm sure the same way like
Thursday night football on my couch.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I can't just watch football like I'm It's as if
I'm watching fill right, so I'll see, okay, the slot
is doing this like that means the backside receivers probably
doing that in the running backs cooking up.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Because realistically everyone's going to space. That's what we want
to do.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And I agree with you where I do think defensive
players are very smart.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
You know you watch those clips of like Tom Brady
and the Belichick talking about Ed Reid and how Ed
Reid purposely up a week before so when they watched
philm he thinks that he does this genius and then
he does that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Gets a pick against the Patriots here just like yoga.
That's a that, ain't you? That's six smartest scene on
the football field. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I was in coffee back that I would borrow out
of control one year. I'm like, oh, I got a hundred,
I can't tackle. I just looked.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I looked at it like the little absolute keep your
head a hundred football, But what does he throw? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So, if you became a head coach, what would your
like team uh mission statement be hm D bab.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The mission statement?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Like what's the the first day of camp and their
mutual binder?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
What's the what's the.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean, obviously we're gonna have h I'm saying that
we would have you know, play smart puss smart effort, enthusiasm,
the might his one special place. Right after that's gonna
say dem suit d M. S U dem suit d M.
(06:13):
You don't make up. So we're in here and we
talked about how wenna play this. We're gonna do this technique.
This is what we're finna do. I learned that from
part of the greatest live back I mean all the
graces defensive coordinators of all time, Greg Williams.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know yeah, okay, yeah, so running the system I
like that a lot so wrong room. How that come about?
How that startup?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
During COVID will consy, I just started and my best
friend there posting a little comedian in awesome sessions right now. Well,
he was living in his trailer Auntie front yard type,
you know what I'm saying. He was doing that with
him and his own boys comedian partner. I was listening to, well,
I don't even know what it was. It's yeah, I'm
(07:04):
on instagrat Damn We'll start this. So I'm like, all right,
I'm listening to amazing so game deal brou I. So,
especially in Tennessee, I never got many interviews, but I
learned from my teammates at the Round, like they don't
with the media. So especially when I was open, they
never really came to the locker room. Was always had
a speaker Feka in my locker always always, and everybody
(07:28):
got around the music for most part.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So you were you were the DJ, DJ who.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Put you on the water too, That's why not. So
I got my speaker in the Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
They come. It's hard because.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Lingold around locker room and that's not how you're supposed
to do. You're supposed to get get in and out.
You got your time out, get out. You're finna go
to pass and boothmart. So I turned into music.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
All the way up. So when you come in interviews
that drown all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So to start, Damn basically turned down his MUSICOPO and.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was more on I got to go.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So it's just always for the whole four years out
of there, you come in locker room, your extra out
being told on me. You know they believe I go
through and they had the same that was verb all
right back down. Nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So you saw it saw that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, Southern boys got the idea of ices. I don't
get the interviews, don't get like nobody knows my store,
like like you know what I'm sing just like me
telling you about me hoop, that's artist because of that,
Like that's that story. You know what I'm saying. Other
but no know that. So it's like I want to
I want to tell my and do it the way
I want to. I don't have to talk what you
(08:49):
have to tell the story well, and so then I
would just started from there and just kept on going
on your uh build it up to got to a
point where we find the probably going on in the
methods and got back to me out to Nashville and
get the studio, then get my out.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
To get up.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Started getting comedians on that for with nav Greens want
somebody take me? It was my homebo the first started
getting that and then over it like I don't know
what happened in twenty two or two. We just called
on from there. I'm just having all anybody on this. Yeah,
a story, but it's interesting enough. But like you know,
obviously with the following especially ibously, gonna be players. That's
(09:26):
who I really you know, looking for the players or
current players just come on and tell their story and
talk to you know what I'm saying now, I'm instead
of just being so serious about telling my story. I
told him nothing my story. You have to go back
to the old episodes. You want to find out it.
So now we're having fun, you know, saying we got
big back hour, crazy meals. You know what I'm saying.
(09:47):
Cheese came from Yeah, I love that bro. So we
just watching out type of the folk videos we have
every time of some crazy cook and it's like, hey,
would you meet this some mother be like wild and
mother be like you've seen the other day have buffalo baby,
buffalo baby back, Oh fried buffalo baba so b but.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Real breaded fry with buffalo sauce.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I've seen McDonald's fry has chopped up a block of
lights from uh the bread, put butter all on it,
cheese around, Uh jumped it in that rounding fry, so
opening inside, put eggs baby can give it an out,
try for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But there's like some what I want to say, yeah,
but do that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Then we got the other set and called wallom Academy.
We we got the we had uh remember to face
school this sycamore, and we had got the idea of
like make up our own schools just like y'all did.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And so I was like, Hey, that man I did.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm paying called it ballroom the Academy, and I'm saying to
high school kids. Then they send me the highlight tape
because that's what he was telling the day. It was
like sending highlight tape off for d M and that's
how he was signing the players.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I was like, that's the crazy world.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I'm like, yeah, send me take You're gonna sign
you the old academy.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And now so we we out shouted my dog murder
of Mohica.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Mohica is a five eight two hundred and forty five
pounds board. You get me five a two forty five.
I heard you trying this tape on. I'll talking about
nothing but bodies on the floor pulling.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Two days later, No, the next day he got you
offers three. Next day after that he got another off alone.
Steroids returned uh number one. Uh, I am back in
the country, just recrastifying Xavier Crowwell, he sent us this tape.
His freshman year was twenty two, twenty yeah, twenty three,
there was twenty three.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, he sent us his freshman tape. Nice, he going,
he just committed to Alabama the other day. That type
of nice nice.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh, I forgot bro name have a national champion over
out of state. He sent us a tape to commuter
two years ago. We blew him. Polic should be sending
me board money. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We
sending the t shirt. Now we got well, we got
these cards. So you get a car talking my dog,
uh Zach Barlow Legacy cars, you get this cars your
(12:23):
fem and step so you know on somewhere like that,
you get there. We're trying to set up well, we're
gonna fly whoever we got to send me out siding
day type the high.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
School kids fly here, We're gonna turn up.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We're go and have a finer party for you, bunch
around them.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Pickle. You may not know because you don't getting three tickets.
I love that. Yeah, So that's that's been a big
part of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But build two things Like if we go an episode
without doing he going.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What comments quit?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We didn't do one of the last episode right immediately
soon the episode would draw.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, you got to do a big bag out.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So, like you mentioned, Will started doing like bro busting
was one of the reasons I started bringing with you.
I was at a point where I was not being
an athlete anymore, and I love everything Busting was doing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So that was why they worked in my current my
part of wanting to do mine because they were still
playing and I'm on the same He was.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like I was, but but I was like, what I
love is when Will when because Will and Taylor are
funniest when have a guess all the game.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But Will truly does say something like real hell.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Of gag gym And for me, once you're done playing ball,
which I'm sure as you know, once you're done playing,
it's hard, like you got a little I don't care
who you are, like you're you're You've got an empty
place in your.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
In your heart and so like kind of hearing that
was good.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
And what I really appreciate was I was at the
point where I was trying to transition and once you're
done playing bro like half the dudes you played with,
they just they spend all their money, they're living on
their girlfriend's couchs.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
They ain't doing They're losers, right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
The other half are like, yo, I know how to
show up somewhere on the time because I've had to
play football whole life, Like I know how to keep.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Notes because that's what I have to be.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's like and once you get in the real world,
you realize, like there's a lot of people that the
aren't very.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, like you have this dog mentality that you.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Don't even know you have because you think everyone else
has it and they're just normal.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Not hating unormal people that didn't play football highlight. It's
just different.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So if you can take the tools in your tool box,
like you're mentioning and utilize that to business opportunities, networking,
being a good.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Family man, things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
So that's why I started bringing Juice to kind of
like connect that bridge from professional athletes and soccer moms, accountants,
people of own small businesses.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Everyone's a grinder. You know. It's hard to be rich,
it's hard to be poor. It's hard to play football
at a high level. It's hard to coach high school football.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Like choose your right, but regardless, whatever you're gonna do
in this for like oh absolutely.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
And I think like I tried to correlate that, like
getting dudes.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
On if we could tell their stories like yourself, where
it's like yo, I faced diversity, Like maybe people would
go to the Titans stadium or whatever the dadium and
like they see me pat it up, walk in, fit
it up.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Three games, like that's all they see. They don't realize
like the find the scene. That's why. That's what I'm
saying about letting the player.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
If you don't get seen, that don't get the media
high that don't really talk them much. I'm saying I
had it this last night, but we had a three
hour and fifteen minute episode. Because that might really talk
from college all the way to last day in the NFL,
and I ride about these spurry not right water. I
learned about this coach in here and who's it and
(15:57):
by myself like.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's just entertaining, and like sometimes you get a vibe
and then as you know, like I haven't had very
many episodes with dudes who I don't leave and I
consider them like a friend.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Like if I saw you at.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
An airport, we'd immediately go to the Chili's bar chopping up, right.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I I very rarely leave an episode and like that's
not the case. That's sac a dude. I am real.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I was the only white boy wide receiver in
all five years play football for the state. Yet I
walk on a fall where everyone's.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
From Mexico, So I'm very cultured in a lot of
different structures. I all you the Hennessy, You're.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The one who I'm a black surto black messk and
for give me to keep.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I got the I got that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I was trying to be classic today, not an acte
forty two guys.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I just don't like it or gamic whatever, you know,
the whole foods.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
There's some good ones.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Most people don't even know. They think that it's so'ally
as special as supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I do so like. I don't like that's forty two.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I do like I like normally I'll drink class little
on the rocks with little orange slice.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm not a patrol guy. I think patrol Listen, I'm
an easy guy. You got some ice, Jeane, I don't.
I'm not that's that president. But no, like, I agree
with what you said.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And honestly, when you guys started off, I like, I
remember following all on Twitter and talking to one of your.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Pro hosts, uh Jay, Yeah, yeah, I was. I was
messed with gyms. I was trying to meet out like
three years ago. This is dope. So like when when
you were in the locker room with Will.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Would you ask him like, yo, would you talk pond
strategy and whatnot?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
With Will? Yeah? I was.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
That Will, the one we guys in trouble is uh
what I did? I didn't practe her a long backer,
you know. I was there be on brother. He ain't
practice for injury. That wasn't really like usually like out
he ain't practice. You had to walk on down the
build and warn the neck brace with the night brace run.
(18:14):
So I am practice one day because of my here
and nobody like it wasn't in the media and rable
to say nothing about it because it was like late
week in the label whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So he said, you started recording. They are on recording
the wheels.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Like yeah, I mean, dare Base lucause You're like is
that and so yes, it's so variable say so you know,
we don't talk about injuries and the mobile wheels like
I told base Base asked me to say, it's good
I can just say something, and he's like, now you're
gonna do their So we're blowing my phone up like
eleven twelve' card like brouh, he gonna say something.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm scared and scared and then that happened, but it's
I think he deleted it. I gotta say, I'm telling
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's a place of self like me, me sitting there
and then they just like, well if you can't practice me,
I put their neck brace on.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Good days. But yeah, we talked part.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
My best friend Dad postly talked to part well Master
talked part with the other other people that most of
most of the all the talk to part with is
trying to get into the working on their part right now.
I kind of I listen my my, I said with
my podcast, like who I look up to in the
(19:38):
podcast game would be Joe Budd, Not because like this
is Joe Budd that he cool, No, it is because
the way he gives like he's just just gyms on.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Especially me. I want to be.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Independent, Like I ain't trying to sign on network. I
ain't never done that, never, probably never with Yah, I've
been offered offer playing times like I'm gonna stealing talk
to been going off once. I just say about you
got in the comfort, so I go on because I
learned from them about independence and taking all your money
and we invest in all your money not having to
(20:09):
give it to outside source.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
So I have an outside source trying to take your
or your money.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
So I led from the youg going from that because
most people are always signed to this person that I
always say they got.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
This, add ad and you three. Even if any if
I do gotta add be just me, just add and
go there here I go. And but I don't read it.
I'm not like that.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I'm just like yo, very, I find a way to
just I guess as soon as I hear somebody say something,
I don't bag.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I'ma tied into that. I tell people so like, but
I don't afford pod. I picture it like a river. Okay, oh,
I can't have to can't make it offwardy what not.
And there's something that I don't know about you. Like
sometimes I interview a dude, you're a natural. It's easy.
But like sometimes you inter be like they're not used
(21:01):
to being on pods. They're a little nervous, like you're
asking them a question. I don't have a problem because
we've got five people on it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, there's no Ne's never been to me and another person.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It's always been three.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking been like no, it's been another
That's why my homeboy come it's just me and you
know what I'm saying, Uh, it's I never did its
like one of my other boys when Jaylen used to
not be able to make it.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's me, me and my color boy and me talking
over the time.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's like it's never It's never been me and another
person I don't know. To me, that's awkward. I could
I wouldn't be like this somebody I don't know, because
then I feel like like not saying that that's someone,
would that be like I will believe so because I'm
just saying like it's like, yeah, I feel like this.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Is real interview with Yes, I have been on that
your side of this where guys are on laptops and
are like reading and I'm like, yeah, like me and
you can judge me, please do. I've been like I
want to make.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Sure that because you have so much interesting about you,
I want to make sure that's why. That's why, like
I said, Joe Budden, is like.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Wheeling them and my homebush instead of like, I don't
know how your studio looking at.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
The crib, but jerseys all over the walls.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, so exactly, so you got this like we got coucies,
you know, what I'm saying, there's five people, three people
behind the scene doing but we drink, we're doing. It's
more of it will be you're gonna feel like it's
gonna get a conversation held.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The room gonna feel like the room, That's what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So it's like the.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Men got a TV in front of you, don't have
to have another look at your phone on. I'd be
the tighter looking us like that's gonna come on boom.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But I ain't that wrong with this. I know how
you do your thing and it's hard. It's also it
is like I said, like, well, I'm most.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Like eighty percent of the time now when I interduced
to La, I've never really met them before.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So having that ability and that's why I you to
do that. No, bro, I really admire what you don't
do our room. Like.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's good when you when you're so used to hosting
a pond, it's good to come on pay air it out,
talk about yourself for a few minutes, tell some stories
here for told in a while, like and me like
I put myself out there, like I talked about.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Any off the Hawaii dude with the clothesline, like like,
I don't think I've told that story before on the part,
but those these times of conversations where it's natural, they
bring that out of you, right and ultimately, like we
call our following the army of Grid, bring the juice,
the army of grit.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
That's who. That's if you're.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Bringing juicy or I know you guys got your your
roomies and whatnot, like we want dudes who are when
you work time after time, you go through it versus
but you overcome a versus quila Hennessy after bro, I
want to celebrate with my boys. I want to go
buy that nice steak at the restaurant, because that's what
life's about.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
That I'm not going to need all the world. I
don't need all the world. You wins, God's God wins,
so debates. I appreciate you sliding today, Brouh. You always
have a seat at my table. We'll come out again.
I'll be out one of these days. But appreciate you
and
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