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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bring a juice in Nascual Today, I got debates raw
Rule's Finest Memphis is Finus.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, for sure I could throw that in the bio.
I think, as you know, as a fellow social media
influencer podcast sixte up, you got to do your homework
if you're gonna interview some much debates. I know you
got the juice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This morning, as I was thirty thousand feet in the air,
can't sleep going over Dallas, Texas, I was like, where
can I pinpoint you have in the juice? And so
a clip came up of you hype it up Derrick
Henry when he's take man soul.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
On a stiff farm. Absolutely, you support near boys.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I believe in positive contagious energy spreads like wildfire, and
sometimes you need to be that fuk punk right.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
When did you know like, hey, I need to set
the tone. Somebody needs to step up. We're too flat
in the wake. When did you say, like, all right,
I want to be that guy. I'm going to be
the guy who's an influencer, not a locker room lawyer.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Positive note, Well, for me it started I guess my
rookie year in the NFL, because you know, for me,
I went from being a four year starter at all
but playing every snap on defense, but getting jews from
looking at my teammates on the sideline. When I make
a big player or my other teammates making them play.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We celebrated. Then we celebrated with the sideline.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
You know what I'm saying, fells on the sideline, And
it originated from that. Then I get to the league
and obviously I'm playing up a special team. So I'm
watching the game. But the same way is my when
I was out there making the plays and I looked
to the sideline, I'm doing the same thing. You know
what I'm saying now that the roads has changed, and
I'm looking at them, Hey, watching them boys may play
(01:48):
against there for them, and you know it's all you know,
hopefully change the.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Not the outcome, but the room.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
You know what I'm saying, A difference in the room
in any room, like you said, the weight room, the
meeting room, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That's the truth though, And people don't realize, like between
your body language, your attitude and all that. And listen,
in college, like I was special things, dude, there's a
lot of guys out there who might become discouraged that
they're not the one on defense, not the one on offense.
Right they're soaking on the sideline. They don't really they're
here to collect and.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Checking what up.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
You don't got to be there, you get to be
And I think when you can have that mindset adjustment
of like, yo, I need to be a asset right now,
and if I'm not on.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The field, I'm gonna get the boys fired up.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Absolutely, And I mean I'm gonna do like Dereck Henry
doing what he does.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Like it's everybody.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
I don't matter who it is and what player or
what you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just it's
just bringing that age for the team. It's like it's
all about the man that's on that team making them plays.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So, yeah, they don't matter who it is. I'm gonna
be lit. I still got to turn over anything just
away from the ball, like if I just see sent
it back a little bit. So you go to Auburn,
How did you decide to go to Auburn? Highly recruited? Obviously,
let me take the story. I want to know. The
story is bring the juice.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
So you feel me, shake me out. We had one
of the best tackles in the country of the phild
Tron on our football team.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
This is in high school. High school.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
We also had one of the best safetis and Rob
Wilson no relations to the other Rod Wilson that went
to that school, was one of the best safeties in
the writing in the country. And they're going to Alabama.
So we played back. We're playing basketball. We're in gymim
playing basketball. We went practice and Alpin came to see
Albert Phillips. He's playing center. So we're in Jaim we're practicing.
(03:47):
I'm hooping it now like I darking that bitch on wow,
just having fun. We got a good time. The scout
recruiter this is he is football. Okay, super tato, but
he's watching you played basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He watched. He really came to watch aufus. Okay, I'm
just in that junior gloom. You feel me.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
So my class like, oh yeah, he played football.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Let me see the tape.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
So when I I'm gonna take And they called him
in the office and I was like, hey, went off your
Scotts Shapa.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You were hooping in gym.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
This is in January, so you know, back in February,
signing day.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Hold on, what's your senior senior year? You have no officer.
Three weeks before you the office.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
One, I was already committed to a Central Arkansas Arkansas State,
and I ended up just committing to Archistas State.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was just there like a week or two before that.
That was like, trust I come here. You're hooping in
in jail. Like, so we said we.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Got we're president. What you said at the beginning, you're
from there, Yes, ye'll be four years old.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
You're in basketball in basketball practice, the guy says, the
cooler coming.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
To see all the fields, and they just see me
in there, just doing my dame you feel. I was like, oh, yes,
he played football, Like yeah, let's case, She'll tell you.
And then they call me in the office. I've been
offering this nown for like two three hours to night.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He call after basketball practice.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Yeah, he calling back to all, but like hey, I
got the kid.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And so now I'm in there and next you know,
I offered me and I was like, hell.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yeah, he's never been there before. You didn't even though
alban was in Alabama. I knew of albur Over, but
I didn't know it was in Alabama, know what? And
so next you knows. Next couple of days later, Uh,
Alabama came down there, came to the school office.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So then that's how I ended up in all the
playing basketball. Hoop can have a special year that year. Help.
Do you think he gets the respect he deserves. I
don't think you get enough at all. I don't think
you get enough. Elaborate that it was amazing he can
get honest.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, and the all season Candlas ass really when we
first came in, yes, because he started at Florida.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
He wasn't able to do the gamer.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
But so he started at Florida, Urban Meyer said, we
didn't want you to go to Secason, we had to
go Juco.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Then he came to Auburn.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, so that's all I don't I don't feel
like he get the respects he deserves as far as
what he did in Auburn, what he did the college football,
what he did in that season, and yeah, you know
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Take me through your favorite memory of that rue.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
You guys won the Natty at Auburn and obviously, uh
come back on Alabama. One of my person my favorites
was a versus Clemson. I'm really I never first of all,
I never played. I never played any special teams, probably
three in college because I started my whole four years,
(07:10):
and the only thing I probably played a field goal block.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Half the time. I was never going hard on that.
So one time I'm.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Rounding up and I'm watching this last second field goal
and I see the snapper, so put it down.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But nobody blew the record whistle. So I get up.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I'm just starting yelling the referee this brother whist kicken good.
But then all of a sudden they go come back
like woa, whoa whoa, whoa who And I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I did closer from day that was a good guy.
I don't know. That was a lot of good guy.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Was the season but was crazy And you go back,
look the defense was in the first half of every game.
You are go watch Alison Jefferys had a hundred plus owners.
Uh uh, give me an on one of my boy
Georgia weird a j Green haunted plus but you go
watch u uh uh, Hey, my boy went to Kentucky receiver.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Snap set the hand. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yeah, we finishing. That was great And I told you
what you seen us in as one Carter hustling. We
got two wonders in the first half. We hustling Boom
popped the ball out of his rolled through the z
all you know we went ship between it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We will you think the iron Ball is the best
rivalry and coasortable all you wanna know some funny.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
I literally just last night was washing I like watch documented.
I was watching the Ohio State Michigan rivalry. Now they
it's a big Ribbs fantastic fantastic, like how the blue
blood you see me like this? This it's time Blacks.
But I'm saying, like the way, like the way they
(08:56):
talked about one another day there was oh the ik
who say that? But it was like, oh, they're not smart.
Go I said my mission some shit like that.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know. It was just good old, good old Manser. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Now you go watch the honorable documentary of My game killed.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh you got to that as a baby, like what
size you're gonna be on? Type? If you live in Bama,
you got to decide what side you're gonna be. Yes.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
I heard plenty of stories from T shirts, police officers,
camp chiller ladies about how they had to make a
decision growing up, how it used to get beat up
for them decisions. Now, I'm not saying that they didn't
go on Michigan Ohio State. I just know it didn't
come up in the document her because if it was
handying that in that series, in that in that in
(09:43):
the robbery, he didn't get talked about because they just
talked about someone we walked on campus at off you
get told about.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now, I'm not saying they're gonna do it there, but I.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Just know I definitely think when NCC, definitely I feel
like it's more likely to throw hands compared to the
n ten out for shot.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's a fair statement.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
But we had poison tree, a hundred some of your
old tree. Do you understand? Yeah, spe you gotta.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Be back it up here.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
We have we have one hundred, like one hundred pleasure
little oak trees on campus.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Historic Historic.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
If you don't been there, says what I would say
on my podcast eighteen hundred Slavery Day, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Been that long that you feel me?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
So, dude, we we put a camp Newton Jersey on
Bard Brown's statue.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You did no, uh the community? Did you feel me?
We didn't? That's hold. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
So so he decides to cook up concocton and go
poison the tree. That's too much corner where we roll
these trees after any big the swimming, the question, soccer, basketball, football, baseball,
even we hit them callers and we're throwing a toilet
paper on it. That's what you listen, That's what we do.
(11:05):
So this man decides and killed the treats.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's how seriously some psycho roll tied pascins.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
I feel like there's another a father in the sound.
One of them killed each other over all over Alabama.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So it is so it's double one in my Yes,
I don't even know what like, I'm trying to think
it's Penn State dressing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Then there Na stayed away? Who else? But ain't nobody?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
U l A noy on West Coast.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I played in u c l A. I played USC
my brothers have. I've played them multiple times. The Rose
Bull is historic.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Oh yeah, outside that's to play. Maybe was bowl game,
but playing u c l A A regular like a
regular season game, nobody comes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There's party in it. Text was respected.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I'll I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I would throw uh ain and Texas is always that's
a that's there's beef there there's beef.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
No text was up there, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Georgia and
Bama maybe oh in.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Then CC but now not in the country. Not in
the country.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
But I say Georgia for you know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I like the traditional games. I like the Apple cut. Yeah, yeah,
I like.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I was in Seattle once in twenty three and went
to the to the Apple up there.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I like the Holy War b y u Utah, that's
good college football tradition.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Freso State and hey Boise called the milk Can game.
Oh milk Can Okay, but Rhys are great for cultural
little bit. But I do think I am most definitely
up there for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
For sure.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Your time at Auburn and comes to a man, what
was your draft process like?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Were you expecting to go drafted? Were you expecting you
ended up going undrafted? Yeah, I wouldn't straight to get drafted.
She was like, I gotta go prove myself somewhere. M
It was random after we got after the Texas and
now my senior year.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Bad game, and there was an agent there, They're going
to come senior play and he ended up saying he's
gonna represent me at the end of the season. Random's fuck.
I was like, all right, yeah, got me, uh somewhere
the train that you got me. I was a trained
at m JP Michael Johnson Performance in Dallas. Yeah, went
(13:41):
out there and for the draft. I was at my
sister cub in Atlanta to watch TV, damn and saying
draft started on Friday. I get a call till Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh he was late. Was that, Men, he can't invite
me this signed. You're out of the game. Hang out.
You have to try out, balled out in the three days.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
It ain't like it used to be, Like we had
like real for real practice, yeah and all that today. No,
so I had an opt to masonly go show. So
then they extended invite for turn count. Going my way
through the.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But making the fifty three as an undrafted guy. That's
that's like I told you to my brother on the
chief round.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
He's going through like he knows that your cards were
stacked against you, and he like I originally started as
a walk on before my skuli and like it's kind
of that same mindset where Okay, if they drafted a
wide receiver in the second round and you go n
drafted and you used to get ten balls, you know,
If the undrafted guy drops one, they're on his neck.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
The fifteen second round dude drops one, Hey get the
next one, buddy. Right, it's like your margin for air.
It's razor face, mom, razors and you're going to take
a grown man's job. So these bets in the room,
like it depends on the locker room from live perspective
at least for like some dudes might try to help
you out. Other dudes are like, oh yeah, it's feeling
for yourself. Si swim right. Yeah, you had to learn.
Speaker 8 (15:18):
You mentioned special teams, like obviously you learn quickly as
it undrafted, Like that's gonna be your tickets making a
fifty three?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Tell me the importance of special.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Teams poor, just so many things you can say on that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Ye have aust the society of the ball. You know
what I'm saying. You have a third face. It's a
third face.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
It is or it is as far what you're doing
out there, but the importance of making it as far
as I'm the team, it gives you an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, everybody wants to offer some defense. We get it.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
When I look at the depth chart, you know something,
looking do the math. Now you gotta figure out. I
know on in those spots where you at how if
where is the best place for me to make it
L four. It's gonna be l It's gonna be L four,
it's gonna be guard, it's gonna be tackles, it's gonna
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be everything. So now it's about your mentality.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was gonna say, because dudes get the egotistical side
of things, were like, you know, I'm better than this guy.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
But I would say I had a man one of
the best special team coaches all time, John Foster bombs,
you know, the tightest special team coach.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He put it like he explained it to.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Us all early, like if this is what you want
to do, he made a hot cut up of just
the different special team players just dolls back and then back.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
So I'm watching all these monther fuckers who just play
special teams and just and he's just showing it over
and over and over, and so that's what I started on.
Just practice, especially, like I said, we didn't do this
all the like first training camp practice is a special
change practice only, and it's all competition for pays and
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he's just going separate real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I love that we got a weed them out.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
You ain't gonna maybe yeah, or you can set the temple,
which is what I showed with it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's documented.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I made it, tweet about it right before I dropped
off on the practice field. Time to go get a job.
Mm that she started to day before that round there
wrote an article about that too, Joe Joe, Joe Bowden.
Just a line, right, coach, I'm standing right to the left,
another player, four year vest stand especially in captain standards. Right,
(17:53):
You're like, you ain't gonna do tomorrow when we got there, coach,
So we go out to practice.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Who wanted to first?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
He hopped out there running, run right back with it.
Let's go then you first first. I'm playing part on
Poe return. So really it's harder for the un It's
harder for both.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I want to say, it's hard for you. It depends. Yeah,
that's what type of so I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Taking my plash boone, take off running, I'm told less.
He run down to them, pulling me and I bit
my hair. Also, you know, I just stopped right there ahead,
just as they say.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He was.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
All day, all day, and he Julia for an hour
and fifteen and again go over, hold on, I'm alway
all day.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Next seas, Hey, we just I'm moving. I moved up
on depth chart that day.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Hey, you know that spot he was there, Captain Man
be right.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There and then there yep, and then he was for
that winter the wedding. You know that passes min now too. Hey,
I want to get into that. I want to get
into that because listen, that's a big to play college
football is a big deal. To get a sniff of
the NFL is a big deal. To get the opportunity
to do what you did. It's a big deal. But competitors,
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as you know, are like the scene just means something.
I don't care what you are, what sport. Let's not
act what. There's not one person out there.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
If you're a guy on the team who doesn't want
to see I don't want you on my team.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Well I don't want to say that because not everybody
like built for the role of being a leader and
any and I want to say any type of capacity.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But you know, you got your different version of elite.
Some guys are vocals. Guys just do their thing and
do things right. If I want me, I was trying
to get mixed some both because you know I'm in.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
That talking about an example, but I back it up absolutely,
so you had your different type.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But you you know something.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
You ask the guys that can quiet and lead, but
just you know something, you just watch how they work,
you know, but they might not get the patch. But
you're still looking in my eye. I respect you feel me.
So yeah, I wouldn't say you wouldn't want my team.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I shoulder.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
There's some dogs out there, some leaders that just so
happened to just can't might not be the head of
the team, but my team yea.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah. But getting tell me your experience when you learn
that you've got the captain pinch? How fared up? How
did they tell you? I think we had a team
meaning I believe. Okay, remember I think we had like
a team meaning or something and we expecting it.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Nah, because actually I would want to say they just
I don't know how the bolt went.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
But it was actually six of us.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
There was six of us and two special team captains
usually actually one it was me and Johnny Hecker. So
that's just that's you know, makes another pass up.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
What do you think is the hardest phase of special teams?
Like the specific thick roll because like me, I used
to think front Line of ko R. I think there
can be a Netflix documentary about I'm talking.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Old school front.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Line of ko R again. I saw a walk on.
I'm in sixty two pounds, I'm getting.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Letters and you go out with your front five six,
whatever your scheme is, and like you're counting your dudes.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right, I got the L two, I got the
L three, and people don't realize like sprinting backwards. Well,
another dude was trying.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
To earn his role, by the way, right, he's he's
trying to.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You know, I'm back pedaling and I got to engage.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
You could get gotten very easily now on a ko
R and you also could be doing some twist and
don't get it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But I think this is my opinion. I think think
front Line of KOOR was the hardest one. One thousand. Yeah, bro,
I had a so we play Hawaii, I mean confidence.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
And when you play Hawaii, Bro, it's hard to play
at the Rock because they put you at a hotel
on the water if they want you to get distracted, right,
and you kick off with like eight pm, which in
Cali time, which is in Atlanta time, is like three
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think it's three.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Hours behind Calie time, so it's six hours behind East Coast.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So you're tired. No one's at the game. It feels
like it's COVID.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Calvin with my boys and I got ann now four
and this dude's rocking. Polynesian dude rocking the forty three
with the Troy Paul he's got, he's.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Got the Batman eye.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Black bro.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
My boys, my boys, and we're looking at them, and I'm.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Probably like you, you can tell he's not a good
linebacker because he probably gets burn with I can run
full step.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So we kick off.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
They kick off, and I do the old like look
one way look look off.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I kind of get up underneath, like I'm sure right,
you know? We kick yeah, stretch.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
The teams coordinator comes out on the field, Dad comes up, goes.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Same play, same play, same play. I'm running next to
this dude like.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
This fifteen feet away, same play, same scheme, same stem.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm looking and I'm so I'll do my drap.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And I'm like it, I gotta eat this one, bro,
I gotta hold on for the ride. That's my best
case scenario of the situation. A bitch goes twenty yards
out of bounds, puts his arm out like that.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He's running full screen. Everyone else slowed up. He's running
like this. I'm like kind of jogging away from it.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
He's like driftings the head of my element.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Luckily he didn't get a clean shot to close. You
lucky then yeah, yeah, really that bad could have gotten all.
But anyways, so what's your opinion on the news kickoff
for I.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Mean, in my opinion, I would have liked it if
it was right towards the end of my career.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Got just because it's one o one, you know what
it is. It's one on one eliminate the running.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
So by that time, I know my first five six years,
I'm using my speed.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Don't kickoff eighty nine. I'm I'm finnah just sautly up.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
So it would have been perfect for me, said second
level player, fold over the top type backside five four player.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You know what I'm saying, fres sized five whatever, make
a tackle. You know what I'm saying. I'm getting straight
down here to the ball.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Look at Nick bull Or forty five years old, lived
in the NFL and spelled the team tackle you feel
dog and.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He actually what he did, play it back on top,
so over the top, making all the place.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
You also you mentioned your field goal block in college
being an asset, but in the league you have the
iconic jump over the law of snapper and block the
punt Giants against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Walk me through it. You tied it up. You had
a tendency. You saw that dude was gonna do like
he puts his head up and snaps or what we
once you get shot the bones. John Fossl he the
one that came up.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
But I actually did the like weeks before that against
uh San Francisco for the nineties. I was outside of stuff,
so I already had been practicing. I knew it, and
the night before he was like, you want to do
it again?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh yep. So we just watched them night before.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
You're like, we're gonna do it on the way it
was on the attap turning, and so I went off
for that. This time I just delayed because went the
same thing as San fran but I just went immediately.
So this whole I gave it a hesitation step back,
being with so hard to time that though, Yeah, especially
on the road, But I mean it was good then, Uh,
(26:04):
I'm surprised that, like in I did I did it
a couple of times after that, and from.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Guards just started. You can flipped, oh well, no, I
follow them, but I got my feet and.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Clip together coming from that's a.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
I just feel like there's so many instances where like,
that's a high i Q football play, right, any team
could do that, but having the balls to call it
and then executing its thing.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You've been around the league for a while, like you've
seen a lot of things.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
What's some of the most high i Q football players
you've seen in your football days?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Hmm, it's great. First master, who do you think was
the first person that did that jump over the black kid.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Success? Is it?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Is it you?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I'm asking you a question. I feel like I feel
like Patrick Willis type at one point definitely not pe
with is it you? I absolutely it was me.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
So everybody gonna say it was a Detroit part of
my little Cam Chanson filmbo go there.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
He did glow. That's my problem with he was also
all side.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Uh uh then Cam chanser, Now if anybody just patching
them football wore in the same division rams because Seatalls
had a little battle back and forth in the early
twenty tens. They did everything we did as far as swissing,
and they complicated it after we did from doing that,
because three weeks after I did it, that's what cam
(27:32):
Chancer did.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
If you also go to remember the.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Stabbing baby Pump fake pump return a week they thought
they planted the right left, but it actually got punted right,
and still they took the bitch up the field touch down.
A couple of weeks later, Richard Sharingy did the same thing,
gets tackled on twenty so it was like they just
take it. They were just doing anything we did for
most part, so everybody saw them because they just Super
Bowl champs.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
See he's in a ball on the cam Shafton just
did so everybody thought of Camp Chanser.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
And just after came Towns a couple of months ago
and the Shying Bowl, So hey, may shouldn't we tell everybody?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He goes, I be telling people, hey, let's real Shire
you did that.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah you got Super Bowls and all this field goal
block bron So yeah, I definitely I did that, but
how atually plays?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I want to say, the best one I ever seen
was Mike Raby.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We were playing.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I'm talking about this on my part who were playing.
We're playing any tests, and there was like three minutes
to go. They on like the thirty it was like
thirty two us and the clock running. So they just
give them the fall to take and they three time
play up one. They about to go in and even
score some type of way. So this my throws all Josh, cool,
(28:47):
you know, just play the tight throw, all cool. Just
don't go in on the field. Just go we already
on defense. Shut up, don't.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
He's shoving trying to hurry up.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Get them on the field. So stop the clock. Give
been in the first time. I'm giddy anyway, and now
we can, we said.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So he wanted to get the twelve man on the field,
the pebbalty we get.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I was like, I'm standing next town. I'm like, I said,
you know, I'm tuned in the game. That's what I'm standing, right,
that's rable. I hear him tell joall school because I
ain't gonna claim. I'm like, help my shelf, but I
gotta go ahead. True. So he tells Joson he was like,
we got twelve man on the field. We got twelve
men on the field themselves. What they throw the flats,
(29:27):
give him first down, he get the stop, we go
down score when the goat him.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, rabels like that. Yes he's like that.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I was like, but he he has just saying, good
teams know the rules. Great teams note rules and take
advantage of.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
So you know the rules now, I just don't. You
don't really need to know the rules. Bellichaid, Yeah, that's
another one of the greatest things.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
When we played them in the playoffs in two and twenty,
we had to stick Shi called the grenade. It was
fourth and one. We owned the plus fifty. We up
instead of you was trying to run some clock. You
know what I'm saying. So we're gonna take a penalty,
then start the cop start running the game. Boom, West
will up on punt false start. They get back on
the ball right again, now shouting Taylor Warren because I
(30:17):
got them more use staff that the tackle boom, you
get slower than it. Get down like light, get down,
get set. But we know it's gonna be a long
snap count. Say a whole bunch of words.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Is not just point.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
I got chutch hill fall, I mean outside and this,
uh Belichick was hot because then we got to read
another one because we didn't commute to pay because obviously
we had back back then that you know, can't do that.
So he was hot, and I was Dawn's on the
greatest What was in the world that we got from him?
(30:49):
Like things you different to keep the clock going? That's right,
he was hot too.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Wow, it's Rable, the type I always see the debate
of if all the coaches in the league fought, who
would win. It's Verble the guy.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
He looked Who's Who's Who's who's Uh maybe uh, Dave
Campbell maybe yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, for sure. I like to see that match. I
like to see that match. That'd be nice time card bro.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
What about what about in the lightweight division? Shawn McVay
verse numboy in Miami?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Michael Daniels that little feel like I don't even want
to be here, like I want to go watch ball.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Anyways, got those He's got those cheap on his left.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I respect that. I soul like McDaniel, like a resort
in l A. Like everyone's by the pool, everyone's like
show suits, wool. It's July, right. He pulls up in
his hood sweat columbo sleeves rolled up. He said, I
(32:05):
ain't get even that since my hankels or whatever, and
I'm there with my wife. He was a baby moon
baby moon. I learned this the heart of the pricing
and uh, I mean, I'm a balld guy.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Like I just interviewed Jayalen Wabble right before that, and
I'm like, I'm gonna say what's up?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
But I was like, I don't want to be that guy,
you know. So we're leaving.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
I'm like, hey, like, good season, they had a good year.
It's a good season. Like he just goes thanks.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm like, all right, I'm trying to think those there's
some there's some dogs out there.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I feel like a better matchup would be maybe like
the Vikings coach, right Vay.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh, I don't think I like that man, So it's
not the same that. I mean, okay, what about old heads?
What about saving bellow check cage batch, thirty second rounds,
thirty what about five second rounds? Ten second rounds? Yeah, yeah,
that's right, that's that's something's very time. That's all these
I think it's gonna be saved. Got that sec in them.
(33:17):
It's not just looking at me and his whole life.
He can snapping on turning back.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Around one more time, what if Bill's girlfriends though in
the stands like for row.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
That's that's wrestling then, because she gonna come in, she
don't jump in on r she gonna cut someone's throats.
My nose now, d Q, what's your take on level say,
have you guys talked about that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
On the roll room? No, because I mean I could
let theybody wanted to. It's whatever, that's what it is. Yeah,
what was your welcome to the league moment?
Speaker 6 (33:47):
I talk about this on the pot I'm playing punk
right tack on my Rooki years like week five O.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
One.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
I'm gonna say, like a second the third round, I'm
fIF the fire line up across from me. I take
my punch steps, I'll go punch as hard as I could.
And I didn't go nowhere, Like, I didn't move. Nobody
had done this to Nobody had done this to me.
I just seen other people get done like that. No,
I don't know that's never been but he I'm next.
(34:19):
Only when I knew it was real bad during the
middle of the play. But my teammates trying to set
a pig for me to get off, and I still
couldn't get off like he had this. I was like,
what he continues to do it the next time. I
was like, short, set this real quick, and then I
hit it. Get a little shot back, put me right
back in. Hey, I appreciate Eggie Johnes come from then on,
that body put some more tubes in my tool belt,
(34:41):
like all right, six three two fifty five, all right,
I got something that so like when you was talking
about Earli about leverage, that's why I learned more like
all right, go alright, come up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's when I started. He was like, oh I'm big dude.
All right, all he got it. You got it every
time
Bring a juice in Nascual Today, I got debates raw
Rule's Finest Memphis is Finus.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, for sure I could throw that in the bio.
I think, as you know, as a fellow social media
influencer podcast sixte up, you got to do your homework
if you're gonna interview some much debates. I know you
got the juice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This morning, as I was thirty thousand feet in the air,
can't sleep going over Dallas, Texas, I was like, where
can I pinpoint you have in the juice? And so
a clip came up of you hype it up Derrick
Henry when he's take man soul.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
On a stiff farm. Absolutely, you support near boys.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I believe in positive contagious energy spreads like wildfire, and
sometimes you need to be that fuk punk right.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
When did you know like, hey, I need to set
the tone. Somebody needs to step up. We're too flat
in the wake. When did you say, like, all right,
I want to be that guy. I'm going to be
the guy who's an influencer, not a locker room lawyer.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Positive note, Well, for me it started I guess my
rookie year in the NFL, because you know, for me,
I went from being a four year starter at all
but playing every snap on defense, but getting jews from
looking at my teammates on the sideline. When I make
a big player or my other teammates making them play.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We celebrated. Then we celebrated with the sideline.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
You know what I'm saying, fells on the sideline, And
it originated from that. Then I get to the league
and obviously I'm playing up a special team. So I'm
watching the game. But the same way is my when
I was out there making the plays and I looked
to the sideline, I'm doing the same thing. You know
what I'm saying now that the roads has changed, and
I'm looking at them, Hey, watching them boys may play
(01:48):
against there for them, and you know it's all you know,
hopefully change the.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Not the outcome, but the room.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
You know what I'm saying, A difference in the room
in any room, like you said, the weight room, the
meeting room, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That's the truth though, And people don't realize, like between
your body language, your attitude and all that. And listen,
in college, like I was special things, dude, there's a
lot of guys out there who might become discouraged that
they're not the one on defense, not the one on offense.
Right they're soaking on the sideline. They don't really they're
here to collect and.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Checking what up.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
You don't got to be there, you get to be
And I think when you can have that mindset adjustment
of like, yo, I need to be a asset right now,
and if I'm not on.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The field, I'm gonna get the boys fired up.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Absolutely, And I mean I'm gonna do like Dereck Henry
doing what he does.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Like it's everybody.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
I don't matter who it is and what player or
what you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just it's
just bringing that age for the team. It's like it's
all about the man that's on that team making them plays.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So, yeah, they don't matter who it is. I'm gonna
be lit. I still got to turn over anything just
away from the ball, like if I just see sent
it back a little bit. So you go to Auburn,
How did you decide to go to Auburn? Highly recruited? Obviously,
let me take the story. I want to know. The
story is bring the juice.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
So you feel me, shake me out. We had one
of the best tackles in the country of the phild
Tron on our football team.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
This is in high school. High school.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
We also had one of the best safetis and Rob
Wilson no relations to the other Rod Wilson that went
to that school, was one of the best safeties in
the writing in the country. And they're going to Alabama.
So we played back. We're playing basketball. We're in gymim
playing basketball. We went practice and Alpin came to see
Albert Phillips. He's playing center. So we're in Jaim we're practicing.
(03:47):
I'm hooping it now like I darking that bitch on wow,
just having fun. We got a good time. The scout
recruiter this is he is football. Okay, super tato, but
he's watching you played basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He watched. He really came to watch aufus. Okay, I'm
just in that junior gloom. You feel me.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
So my class like, oh yeah, he played football.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Let me see the tape.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
So when I I'm gonna take And they called him
in the office and I was like, hey, went off your
Scotts Shapa.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You were hooping in gym.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
This is in January, so you know, back in February,
signing day.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Hold on, what's your senior senior year? You have no officer.
Three weeks before you the office.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
One, I was already committed to a Central Arkansas Arkansas State,
and I ended up just committing to Archistas State.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was just there like a week or two before that.
That was like, trust I come here. You're hooping in
in jail. Like, so we said we.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Got we're president. What you said at the beginning, you're
from there, Yes, ye'll be four years old.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
You're in basketball in basketball practice, the guy says, the
cooler coming.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
To see all the fields, and they just see me
in there, just doing my dame you feel. I was like, oh, yes,
he played football, Like yeah, let's case, She'll tell you.
And then they call me in the office. I've been
offering this nown for like two three hours to night.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He call after basketball practice.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Yeah, he calling back to all, but like hey, I
got the kid.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And so now I'm in there and next you know,
I offered me and I was like, hell.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yeah, he's never been there before. You didn't even though
alban was in Alabama. I knew of albur Over, but
I didn't know it was in Alabama, know what? And
so next you knows. Next couple of days later, Uh,
Alabama came down there, came to the school office.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So then that's how I ended up in all the
playing basketball. Hoop can have a special year that year. Help.
Do you think he gets the respect he deserves. I
don't think you get enough at all. I don't think
you get enough. Elaborate that it was amazing he can
get honest.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, and the all season Candlas ass really when we
first came in, yes, because he started at Florida.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
He wasn't able to do the gamer.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
But so he started at Florida, Urban Meyer said, we
didn't want you to go to Secason, we had to
go Juco.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Then he came to Auburn.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, so that's all I don't I don't feel
like he get the respects he deserves as far as
what he did in Auburn, what he did the college football,
what he did in that season, and yeah, you know
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Take me through your favorite memory of that rue.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
You guys won the Natty at Auburn and obviously, uh
come back on Alabama. One of my person my favorites
was a versus Clemson. I'm really I never first of all,
I never played. I never played any special teams, probably
three in college because I started my whole four years,
(07:10):
and the only thing I probably played a field goal block.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Half the time. I was never going hard on that.
So one time I'm.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Rounding up and I'm watching this last second field goal
and I see the snapper, so put it down.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But nobody blew the record whistle. So I get up.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I'm just starting yelling the referee this brother whist kicken good.
But then all of a sudden they go come back
like woa, whoa whoa, whoa who And I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I did closer from day that was a good guy.
I don't know. That was a lot of good guy.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Was the season but was crazy And you go back,
look the defense was in the first half of every game.
You are go watch Alison Jefferys had a hundred plus owners.
Uh uh, give me an on one of my boy
Georgia weird a j Green haunted plus but you go
watch u uh uh, Hey, my boy went to Kentucky receiver.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Snap set the hand. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yeah, we finishing. That was great And I told you
what you seen us in as one Carter hustling. We
got two wonders in the first half. We hustling Boom
popped the ball out of his rolled through the z
all you know we went ship between it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We will you think the iron Ball is the best
rivalry and coasortable all you wanna know some funny.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
I literally just last night was washing I like watch documented.
I was watching the Ohio State Michigan rivalry. Now they
it's a big Ribbs fantastic fantastic, like how the blue
blood you see me like this? This it's time Blacks.
But I'm saying, like the way, like the way they
(08:56):
talked about one another day there was oh the ik
who say that? But it was like, oh, they're not smart.
Go I said my mission some shit like that.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know. It was just good old, good old Manser. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Now you go watch the honorable documentary of My game killed.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh you got to that as a baby, like what
size you're gonna be on? Type? If you live in Bama,
you got to decide what side you're gonna be. Yes.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
I heard plenty of stories from T shirts, police officers,
camp chiller ladies about how they had to make a
decision growing up, how it used to get beat up
for them decisions. Now, I'm not saying that they didn't
go on Michigan Ohio State. I just know it didn't
come up in the document her because if it was
handying that in that series, in that in that in
(09:43):
the robbery, he didn't get talked about because they just
talked about someone we walked on campus at off you
get told about.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now, I'm not saying they're gonna do it there, but I.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Just know I definitely think when NCC, definitely I feel
like it's more likely to throw hands compared to the
n ten out for shot.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's a fair statement.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
But we had poison tree, a hundred some of your
old tree. Do you understand? Yeah, spe you gotta.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Be back it up here.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
We have we have one hundred, like one hundred pleasure
little oak trees on campus.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Historic Historic.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
If you don't been there, says what I would say
on my podcast eighteen hundred Slavery Day, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Been that long that you feel me?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
So, dude, we we put a camp Newton Jersey on
Bard Brown's statue.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You did no, uh the community? Did you feel me?
We didn't? That's hold. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
So so he decides to cook up concocton and go
poison the tree. That's too much corner where we roll
these trees after any big the swimming, the question, soccer, basketball, football, baseball,
even we hit them callers and we're throwing a toilet
paper on it. That's what you listen, That's what we do.
(11:05):
So this man decides and killed the treats.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's how seriously some psycho roll tied pascins.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
I feel like there's another a father in the sound.
One of them killed each other over all over Alabama.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So it is so it's double one in my Yes,
I don't even know what like, I'm trying to think
it's Penn State dressing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Then there Na stayed away? Who else? But ain't nobody?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
U l A noy on West Coast.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I played in u c l A. I played USC
my brothers have. I've played them multiple times. The Rose
Bull is historic.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Oh yeah, outside that's to play. Maybe was bowl game,
but playing u c l A A regular like a
regular season game, nobody comes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There's party in it. Text was respected.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I'll I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I would throw uh ain and Texas is always that's
a that's there's beef there there's beef.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
No text was up there, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Georgia and
Bama maybe oh in.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Then CC but now not in the country. Not in
the country.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
But I say Georgia for you know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I like the traditional games. I like the Apple cut. Yeah, yeah,
I like.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I was in Seattle once in twenty three and went
to the to the Apple up there.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I like the Holy War b y u Utah, that's
good college football tradition.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Freso State and hey Boise called the milk Can game.
Oh milk Can Okay, but Rhys are great for cultural
little bit. But I do think I am most definitely
up there for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
For sure.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Your time at Auburn and comes to a man, what
was your draft process like?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Were you expecting to go drafted? Were you expecting you
ended up going undrafted? Yeah, I wouldn't straight to get drafted.
She was like, I gotta go prove myself somewhere. M
It was random after we got after the Texas and
now my senior year.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Bad game, and there was an agent there, They're going
to come senior play and he ended up saying he's
gonna represent me at the end of the season. Random's fuck.
I was like, all right, yeah, got me, uh somewhere
the train that you got me. I was a trained
at m JP Michael Johnson Performance in Dallas. Yeah, went
(13:41):
out there and for the draft. I was at my
sister cub in Atlanta to watch TV, damn and saying
draft started on Friday. I get a call till Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh he was late. Was that, Men, he can't invite
me this signed. You're out of the game. Hang out.
You have to try out, balled out in the three days.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
It ain't like it used to be, Like we had
like real for real practice, yeah and all that today. No,
so I had an opt to masonly go show. So
then they extended invite for turn count. Going my way
through the.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But making the fifty three as an undrafted guy. That's
that's like I told you to my brother on the
chief round.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
He's going through like he knows that your cards were
stacked against you, and he like I originally started as
a walk on before my skuli and like it's kind
of that same mindset where Okay, if they drafted a
wide receiver in the second round and you go n
drafted and you used to get ten balls, you know,
If the undrafted guy drops one, they're on his neck.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
The fifteen second round dude drops one, Hey get the
next one, buddy. Right, it's like your margin for air.
It's razor face, mom, razors and you're going to take
a grown man's job. So these bets in the room,
like it depends on the locker room from live perspective
at least for like some dudes might try to help
you out. Other dudes are like, oh yeah, it's feeling
for yourself. Si swim right. Yeah, you had to learn.
Speaker 8 (15:18):
You mentioned special teams, like obviously you learn quickly as
it undrafted, Like that's gonna be your tickets making a
fifty three?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Tell me the importance of special.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Teams poor, just so many things you can say on that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Ye have aust the society of the ball. You know
what I'm saying. You have a third face. It's a
third face.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
It is or it is as far what you're doing
out there, but the importance of making it as far
as I'm the team, it gives you an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, everybody wants to offer some defense. We get it.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
When I look at the depth chart, you know something,
looking do the math. Now you gotta figure out. I
know on in those spots where you at how if
where is the best place for me to make it
L four. It's gonna be l It's gonna be L four,
it's gonna be guard, it's gonna be tackles, it's gonna
(16:14):
be everything. So now it's about your mentality.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was gonna say, because dudes get the egotistical side
of things, were like, you know, I'm better than this guy.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
But I would say I had a man one of
the best special team coaches all time, John Foster bombs,
you know, the tightest special team coach.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He put it like he explained it to.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Us all early, like if this is what you want
to do, he made a hot cut up of just
the different special team players just dolls back and then back.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
So I'm watching all these monther fuckers who just play
special teams and just and he's just showing it over
and over and over, and so that's what I started on.
Just practice, especially, like I said, we didn't do this
all the like first training camp practice is a special
change practice only, and it's all competition for pays and
(17:12):
he's just going separate real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I love that we got a weed them out.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
You ain't gonna maybe yeah, or you can set the temple,
which is what I showed with it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's documented.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I made it, tweet about it right before I dropped
off on the practice field. Time to go get a job.
Mm that she started to day before that round there
wrote an article about that too, Joe Joe, Joe Bowden.
Just a line, right, coach, I'm standing right to the left,
another player, four year vest stand especially in captain standards. Right,
(17:53):
You're like, you ain't gonna do tomorrow when we got there, coach,
So we go out to practice.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Who wanted to first?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
He hopped out there running, run right back with it.
Let's go then you first first. I'm playing part on
Poe return. So really it's harder for the un It's
harder for both.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I want to say, it's hard for you. It depends. Yeah,
that's what type of so I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Taking my plash boone, take off running, I'm told less.
He run down to them, pulling me and I bit
my hair. Also, you know, I just stopped right there ahead,
just as they say.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He was.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
All day, all day, and he Julia for an hour
and fifteen and again go over, hold on, I'm alway
all day.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Next seas, Hey, we just I'm moving. I moved up
on depth chart that day.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Hey, you know that spot he was there, Captain Man
be right.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There and then there yep, and then he was for
that winter the wedding. You know that passes min now too. Hey,
I want to get into that. I want to get
into that because listen, that's a big to play college
football is a big deal. To get a sniff of
the NFL is a big deal. To get the opportunity
to do what you did. It's a big deal. But competitors,
(19:16):
as you know, are like the scene just means something.
I don't care what you are, what sport. Let's not
act what. There's not one person out there.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
If you're a guy on the team who doesn't want
to see I don't want you on my team.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Well I don't want to say that because not everybody
like built for the role of being a leader and
any and I want to say any type of capacity.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But you know, you got your different version of elite.
Some guys are vocals. Guys just do their thing and
do things right. If I want me, I was trying
to get mixed some both because you know I'm in.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
That talking about an example, but I back it up absolutely,
so you had your different type.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But you you know something.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
You ask the guys that can quiet and lead, but
just you know something, you just watch how they work,
you know, but they might not get the patch. But
you're still looking in my eye. I respect you feel me.
So yeah, I wouldn't say you wouldn't want my team.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I shoulder.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
There's some dogs out there, some leaders that just so
happened to just can't might not be the head of
the team, but my team yea.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah. But getting tell me your experience when you learn
that you've got the captain pinch? How fared up? How
did they tell you? I think we had a team
meaning I believe. Okay, remember I think we had like
a team meaning or something and we expecting it.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Nah, because actually I would want to say they just
I don't know how the bolt went.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
But it was actually six of us.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
There was six of us and two special team captains
usually actually one it was me and Johnny Hecker. So
that's just that's you know, makes another pass up.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
What do you think is the hardest phase of special teams?
Like the specific thick roll because like me, I used
to think front Line of ko R. I think there
can be a Netflix documentary about I'm talking.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Old school front.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Line of ko R again. I saw a walk on.
I'm in sixty two pounds, I'm getting.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Letters and you go out with your front five six,
whatever your scheme is, and like you're counting your dudes.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right, I got the L two, I got the
L three, and people don't realize like sprinting backwards. Well,
another dude was trying.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
To earn his role, by the way, right, he's he's
trying to.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You know, I'm back pedaling and I got to engage.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
You could get gotten very easily now on a ko
R and you also could be doing some twist and
don't get it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But I think this is my opinion. I think think
front Line of KOOR was the hardest one. One thousand. Yeah, bro,
I had a so we play Hawaii, I mean confidence.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
And when you play Hawaii, Bro, it's hard to play
at the Rock because they put you at a hotel
on the water if they want you to get distracted, right,
and you kick off with like eight pm, which in
Cali time, which is in Atlanta time, is like three
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think it's three.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Hours behind Calie time, so it's six hours behind East Coast.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So you're tired. No one's at the game. It feels
like it's COVID.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Calvin with my boys and I got ann now four
and this dude's rocking. Polynesian dude rocking the forty three
with the Troy Paul he's got, he's.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Got the Batman eye.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Black bro.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
My boys, my boys, and we're looking at them, and I'm.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Probably like you, you can tell he's not a good
linebacker because he probably gets burn with I can run
full step.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So we kick off.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
They kick off, and I do the old like look
one way look look off.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I kind of get up underneath, like I'm sure right,
you know? We kick yeah, stretch.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
The teams coordinator comes out on the field, Dad comes up, goes.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Same play, same play, same play. I'm running next to
this dude like.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
This fifteen feet away, same play, same scheme, same stem.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm looking and I'm so I'll do my drap.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And I'm like it, I gotta eat this one, bro,
I gotta hold on for the ride. That's my best
case scenario of the situation. A bitch goes twenty yards
out of bounds, puts his arm out like that.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He's running full screen. Everyone else slowed up. He's running
like this. I'm like kind of jogging away from it.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
He's like driftings the head of my element.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Luckily he didn't get a clean shot to close. You
lucky then yeah, yeah, really that bad could have gotten all.
But anyways, so what's your opinion on the news kickoff
for I.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Mean, in my opinion, I would have liked it if
it was right towards the end of my career.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Got just because it's one o one, you know what
it is. It's one on one eliminate the running.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
So by that time, I know my first five six years,
I'm using my speed.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Don't kickoff eighty nine. I'm I'm finnah just sautly up.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
So it would have been perfect for me, said second
level player, fold over the top type backside five four player.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You know what I'm saying, fres sized five whatever, make
a tackle. You know what I'm saying. I'm getting straight
down here to the ball.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Look at Nick bull Or forty five years old, lived
in the NFL and spelled the team tackle you feel
dog and.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He actually what he did, play it back on top,
so over the top, making all the place.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
You also you mentioned your field goal block in college
being an asset, but in the league you have the
iconic jump over the law of snapper and block the
punt Giants against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Walk me through it. You tied it up. You had
a tendency. You saw that dude was gonna do like
he puts his head up and snaps or what we
once you get shot the bones. John Fossl he the
one that came up.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
But I actually did the like weeks before that against
uh San Francisco for the nineties. I was outside of stuff,
so I already had been practicing. I knew it, and
the night before he was like, you want to do
it again?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh yep. So we just watched them night before.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
You're like, we're gonna do it on the way it
was on the attap turning, and so I went off
for that. This time I just delayed because went the
same thing as San fran but I just went immediately.
So this whole I gave it a hesitation step back,
being with so hard to time that though, Yeah, especially
on the road, But I mean it was good then, Uh,
(26:04):
I'm surprised that, like in I did I did it
a couple of times after that, and from.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Guards just started. You can flipped, oh well, no, I
follow them, but I got my feet and.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Clip together coming from that's a.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
I just feel like there's so many instances where like,
that's a high i Q football play, right, any team
could do that, but having the balls to call it
and then executing its thing.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You've been around the league for a while, like you've
seen a lot of things.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
What's some of the most high i Q football players
you've seen in your football days?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Hmm, it's great. First master, who do you think was
the first person that did that jump over the black kid.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Success? Is it?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Is it you?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I'm asking you a question. I feel like I feel
like Patrick Willis type at one point definitely not pe
with is it you? I absolutely it was me.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
So everybody gonna say it was a Detroit part of
my little Cam Chanson filmbo go there.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
He did glow. That's my problem with he was also
all side.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Uh uh then Cam chanser, Now if anybody just patching
them football wore in the same division rams because Seatalls
had a little battle back and forth in the early
twenty tens. They did everything we did as far as swissing,
and they complicated it after we did from doing that,
because three weeks after I did it, that's what cam
(27:32):
Chancer did.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
If you also go to remember the.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Stabbing baby Pump fake pump return a week they thought
they planted the right left, but it actually got punted right,
and still they took the bitch up the field touch down.
A couple of weeks later, Richard Sharingy did the same thing,
gets tackled on twenty so it was like they just
take it. They were just doing anything we did for
most part, so everybody saw them because they just Super
Bowl champs.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
See he's in a ball on the cam Shafton just
did so everybody thought of Camp Chanser.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
And just after came Towns a couple of months ago
and the Shying Bowl, So hey, may shouldn't we tell everybody?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He goes, I be telling people, hey, let's real Shire
you did that.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah you got Super Bowls and all this field goal
block bron So yeah, I definitely I did that, but
how atually plays?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I want to say, the best one I ever seen
was Mike Raby.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We were playing.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I'm talking about this on my part who were playing.
We're playing any tests, and there was like three minutes
to go. They on like the thirty it was like
thirty two us and the clock running. So they just
give them the fall to take and they three time
play up one. They about to go in and even
score some type of way. So this my throws all Josh, cool,
(28:47):
you know, just play the tight throw, all cool. Just
don't go in on the field. Just go we already
on defense. Shut up, don't.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
He's shoving trying to hurry up.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Get them on the field. So stop the clock. Give
been in the first time. I'm giddy anyway, and now
we can, we said.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So he wanted to get the twelve man on the field,
the pebbalty we get.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I was like, I'm standing next town. I'm like, I said,
you know, I'm tuned in the game. That's what I'm standing, right,
that's rable. I hear him tell joall school because I
ain't gonna claim. I'm like, help my shelf, but I
gotta go ahead. True. So he tells Joson he was like,
we got twelve man on the field. We got twelve
men on the field themselves. What they throw the flats,
(29:27):
give him first down, he get the stop, we go
down score when the goat him.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, rabels like that. Yes he's like that.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I was like, but he he has just saying, good
teams know the rules. Great teams note rules and take
advantage of.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
So you know the rules now, I just don't. You
don't really need to know the rules. Bellichaid, Yeah, that's
another one of the greatest things.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
When we played them in the playoffs in two and twenty,
we had to stick Shi called the grenade. It was
fourth and one. We owned the plus fifty. We up
instead of you was trying to run some clock. You
know what I'm saying. So we're gonna take a penalty,
then start the cop start running the game. Boom, West
will up on punt false start. They get back on
the ball right again, now shouting Taylor Warren because I
(30:17):
got them more use staff that the tackle boom, you
get slower than it. Get down like light, get down,
get set. But we know it's gonna be a long
snap count. Say a whole bunch of words.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Is not just point.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
I got chutch hill fall, I mean outside and this,
uh Belichick was hot because then we got to read
another one because we didn't commute to pay because obviously
we had back back then that you know, can't do that.
So he was hot, and I was Dawn's on the
greatest What was in the world that we got from him?
(30:49):
Like things you different to keep the clock going? That's right,
he was hot too.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Wow, it's Rable, the type I always see the debate
of if all the coaches in the league fought, who
would win. It's Verble the guy.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
He looked Who's Who's Who's who's Uh maybe uh, Dave
Campbell maybe yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, for sure. I like to see that match. I
like to see that match. That'd be nice time card bro.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
What about what about in the lightweight division? Shawn McVay
verse numboy in Miami?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Michael Daniels that little feel like I don't even want
to be here, like I want to go watch ball.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Anyways, got those He's got those cheap on his left.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I respect that. I soul like McDaniel, like a resort
in l A. Like everyone's by the pool, everyone's like
show suits, wool. It's July, right. He pulls up in
his hood sweat columbo sleeves rolled up. He said, I
(32:05):
ain't get even that since my hankels or whatever, and
I'm there with my wife. He was a baby moon
baby moon. I learned this the heart of the pricing
and uh, I mean, I'm a balld guy.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Like I just interviewed Jayalen Wabble right before that, and
I'm like, I'm gonna say what's up?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
But I was like, I don't want to be that guy,
you know. So we're leaving.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
I'm like, hey, like, good season, they had a good year.
It's a good season. Like he just goes thanks.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm like, all right, I'm trying to think those there's
some there's some dogs out there.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I feel like a better matchup would be maybe like
the Vikings coach, right Vay.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh, I don't think I like that man, So it's
not the same that. I mean, okay, what about old heads?
What about saving bellow check cage batch, thirty second rounds,
thirty what about five second rounds? Ten second rounds? Yeah, yeah,
that's right, that's that's something's very time. That's all these
I think it's gonna be saved. Got that sec in them.
(33:17):
It's not just looking at me and his whole life.
He can snapping on turning back.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Around one more time, what if Bill's girlfriends though in
the stands like for row.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
That's that's wrestling then, because she gonna come in, she
don't jump in on r she gonna cut someone's throats.
My nose now, d Q, what's your take on level say,
have you guys talked about that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
On the roll room? No, because I mean I could
let theybody wanted to. It's whatever, that's what it is. Yeah,
what was your welcome to the league moment?
Speaker 6 (33:47):
I talk about this on the pot I'm playing punk
right tack on my Rooki years like week five O.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
One.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
I'm gonna say, like a second the third round, I'm
fIF the fire line up across from me. I take
my punch steps, I'll go punch as hard as I could.
And I didn't go nowhere, Like, I didn't move. Nobody
had done this to Nobody had done this to me.
I just seen other people get done like that. No,
I don't know that's never been but he I'm next.
(34:19):
Only when I knew it was real bad during the
middle of the play. But my teammates trying to set
a pig for me to get off, and I still
couldn't get off like he had this. I was like,
what he continues to do it the next time. I
was like, short, set this real quick, and then I
hit it. Get a little shot back, put me right
back in. Hey, I appreciate Eggie Johnes come from then on,
that body put some more tubes in my tool belt,
(34:41):
like all right, six three two fifty five, all right,
I got something that so like when you was talking
about Earli about leverage, that's why I learned more like
all right, go alright, come up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's when I started. He was like, oh I'm big dude.
All right, all he got it. You got it every
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