Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
All alight, A right welcome back can bring the juice.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I have the Brave Brothers on today, Tyler, Austin appreciate
you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Tyler, you could you see it? You've grown a lot,
Saudi feel shorter around you.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
What's your body? Five percent? You right now? I don't
know Austin's first John asked me, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good more than these red wave lightlaggers are definitely not
hurting the cars.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Let's just drive right into it, Tyler. I want to
start with you, Uh, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
A lot of them's happened lately. You're a quarterback who
played at Tennessee. You're a Tennessee football alump, specifically in
that position. It's no secret that the fan with Riko,
what's your take as a former guy who quarterbacked at
that school? When Nil is doing what it's doing, it's
the wild West. We could get into that a little
(00:47):
bit later. But what's the taste in your mouth right now?
Are we moving forward? Are you saying audios or what?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You kind of got to move forward.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
So he kind of put Tennessee in a bad situation
when it came to asking for more money, and I
get it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
The market everything for qbs right now is off the charts.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
We were talking before about the guy from Tulane Mensa
that transfer to Duke a dollar quarterback. Good for him, Yeah,
oh great, but that's what the going rate for qbs
is these days in college, and so he wanted more money.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
But the numbers don't lie. Yeah, so when you're a
can't shoot the stats.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We're not even in the top fifty for passing yards,
rushing yards, none of that. But you're running back is
a top ten guy, your defense top ten defense, right, Like,
that's why you're winning games. And then you want to
go out and kind of stronghold Tennessee and like I
want more money or I'm leaving like they're given to him,
(01:45):
they got to give them to everybody else.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Did it feel like too?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And also you can chime in on your like, Pova this,
did it not feel like that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It wasn't an inside conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You did not feel like he was more like Twitter
beef between I mean the football program and Nico's party,
rather than being like going up to the coach's office
and saying like, hey, this this is what I'm probably
worth right here. I feel like it got out of
the lines pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, and that's that's one thing where you know his dad.
I mean, we don't know the full picture either. His
dad could have been trying to make loose behind the scenes,
like Dan Lanning's sitting there and calling coaching like, hey,
your QB's dad's like reaching out to us talking about transferring.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like who knows what's really going on behind Cloy's doors.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
But if they give in to him right there and
we're like, oh, yeah, we'll pay you a.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Bunch of money. Yeah, then you have your DN coming
up to you next, I want more money. Then this
guy wants more money.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think the.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Biggest thing is to keep the parents. Got to stay
out of it. There are too emotionally invested. Yeah, it's
got to That's wherever it's got to change. And hopefully,
you know a lot of these agents and things get
involved with these players and do that keep the parents
out of it, and you know, make it a business.
And I think it was all communication issue with it,
and they wanted to make it a shout right, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And I think that's where hopefully.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
There's more changes and more restrictions on things moving forward
with college.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
What do you think the market is like, and I
think it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Mikey Kean's a good buddy of mine.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He just left President State after coming from UCF and
he can going to Michigan, and I think a lot
of people were.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Like, Yo, that's an interesting move there.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I know Micky Keen from a guy who threw my
brother the ball perspective, and I know Mikiy Keen from
a come out for dinner like Mike, you're.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
A cool gunning perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Great dude.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I will always have Mikey King's back, and I do
believe in the right offense, he could thrive and success
succeed with an O line and you know, a couple
of weapons, but he could get it there when healthy.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I think he was beat up a lot of his career.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Or two here, not pulling the fingers to anybody, but
long story short, he goes to Michigan in a situation
where they have all the guys that they're paying.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
To be quarterback, the number one guy in the country. Yeah, yeah,
that one.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So at a place like Tennessee because I consider them
a blue blood. What you think the market is right
now for a QB one paycheck, QB two paycheck paycheck
and QB three paycheck? Like, how should that be staggered?
What do you think the market is right now?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Starting QB. I guess it is eight million, it is
eight million. Yeah, that's going right right now, eight to ten, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Going right right. I mean I guess power. I mean
you're powered by.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
SEC, SEC called SEC.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, well for sure, I mean it's gotta be right.
There's so much money involved in college football.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So does QB two get four million or do they
get another eight million?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Because they're going in behind it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like that's where you think, like, Okay, let's say we
have a senior who's getting paid eight million.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
He's the Now we have a really good.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sophomore who's a psycho athlete, I know, and he's once
that guy leaves, and then we just recruited this five
star Like are you spending twenty four million or twenty
million dollars on corbat to this point?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
No, I think what's going on is these so the
recruit if you're getting recruited to school and you're like
the what is Bryce Underwood? Yeah kid from Michigan, Like
you're getting the most money, Like you're going to come
in being the highest paid QB probably in the room
unless you have you're coming into a guy that's you know,
an archie man, right like, and that's it scenario, like
(05:25):
you're not coming to be the nicest update Like they're
going to pay them, right, So it's kind of depends
on different schools and situations. But the QB's, I mean,
they're just hired mercenaries at this point.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, it's an investment, right, Like I feel like it's
potential to like if you have a because I've been
a part of college programs where the backup was the
backup now, but the next year, he's probably not going
to be the starter, right. They're grooving at like the
third string he's just young, right. These are on the offense.
If the first team got hurt, now the secondary is
going to go in, but the thirstream guys gonna beat
(05:57):
him out.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
He's just young right now.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Right, So that where I guess after the first string quarterback,
it kind of becomes Okay, what's the potential, right, what's
going to be the return on the investment?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Right?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
It's almost turned into like kind of stock market in
my opinion, right of like, Okay, but we're going to
pay this guy. You may not start now, but in
a year he's going to be that guy, so you
pay him more, right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, right, Billy, We really like this guy plays single
a in Cincinnati right now, Like he's forty.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Seven years old.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
He has one leg, Like we should sign it's on
base a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know you guys have the break quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Institute, Ken, and I think this is a good segue
to be like, okay, before we get into like what
division is you guys have guys that are getting offers, right,
I see it on your socials.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Clearly the secret sauce is working. How is from kind
of being in.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
A mentor mentorship role for these young athletes that are
now going into college.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Are you seeing any of the business side where I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Know you have a guy who just mentioned has a
couple offers all over the place.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Like are they communicating if you're like, hey, Miami offered
a scollarie and five.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Hundred thousand dollars signing bonus, Like what's the what's going.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
On with from the high school to college?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Carede Ry, Now.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I haven't heard anything JJ Howard Clovis West Sure shout out,
but I haven't heard any nil type deals when it
comes to this. He's still young. I mean he's just
turned fifteen. He's going to be a sophomore next year,
and so it's I don't think right now it's they're
talking numbers. I think it's like, we want to come
out because all these guys, like when you're in the valley,
(07:35):
you're not getting all the you know, notoriety across the nation.
Like you've got to travel to camps and do the
camp circuit.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So that's what he's doing right now.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
He's going to all these schools because as a young guy,
they want to see their live. Sure, there's ways to
pimp out on a camera, like oh, this guy has
a rocket arm and then you watch them live and
it's like he has a noodle. There's waste to you know,
camera angles. So they want to see the guy live. Deception,
yeah there, and so they want to see these guys
still alive. And for him it's been great. I mean
(08:05):
he's going to all these camps and it's like, oh,
you're going to the camp today. It's probably another offer. Yeah,
and it has been so far. So it's it's I
haven't heard any of the nil stuff yet. Kind of
he wants to be as he just wants to focus
on football, so he's not really worried about that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah. I think after this season the nil talk will
start to ramp up. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And it's one of those things where like colleges, I
mean there's rumors right out there about Kurty Smart paying
kids twenty thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars a month to
stay committed, to stay committed, and then if they don't sign,
they pay all their money back, So theoretically like a
loan right of like, this is how these colleges.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Are keeping commits. Right, It's a business. It is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
When we played, you know, we wish it. I wish
you know, it was like this. Yeah. I remember when
he was at Tennessee.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
We'd go to a game and there'd be sixty seventy
thousand people with the number eight jersey on it, no
name on the back, everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Knows the number eight is. You're not seeing a dollar
out of that.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
So that's where it's to me. I think we're going
to start to see more of that, especially with JJ Okay.
If you want to keep him committed, if you know,
if this is his drape school, well, how do you
keep other schools from outbidding you, right, that's what.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It is, and so that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So guys are keeping players that are committed.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Almost on retainer at this point, and that's rumors, right, like.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We don't know already.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And we saw it on Twitter. You know. Lane Kiffin
is a lot of things, but I don't think he's
a liared. I think he speaks his truth too much,
and so.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I think him saying those things, you're like, Okay, well
you got to take some sort of credit out of.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That, right, I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that
they're paying guys.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh my god, I mean think about that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But at one point, like there there's a lot of
brown paper bags that ifting changed old years.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
And I kind of busted for talk about on the Yeah,
I mean, I do you think it's like it's so
hard because it's such a great area, right, it's the
wild goall we like, Okay, why can't you pay the
guy now even though you're gonna start paying him a
month Versus it used to be like you just can't,
you just can't.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Pay him at all?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Right, what do you think I mean you're, like I said,
you've been in the situation.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
They've always paid players, so let's get that out there.
I mean it's been happening for years. I mean Old
miss was a big one, Alabama was a huge one.
So they've always been paying players. They just did it
in secret. They had, you know, a couple of guys
removed from the program that we're handling everything to where
now it's just like how much do you want, Like
(10:42):
how much do we need to pay you this like
check yeah type of deal. Yeah, and they get you know,
they're getting car deals. I mean, look at Carson Beck,
he's driving a Lamborghini years everybody, every QB now is
a jet deal. It's like if we got a free
cheeseburger and college.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
I remember we were at Buffalo Wild Wings and the
owners sat down a stack of like three six winks
like coupons stackld and my dad just reached over to
give me those because nobody.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Can see that, right, they didn't see that, Like you're
in trouble right right where it's like, you know, we're
taking those, we can't have those right like, And that's
one of those things where it's so different now than
just six free winks right from the dubs.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Tell you were kind of in that prime sec degenerate
period of football, like college Saturdays. What's the craziest without
name dropping financial exchange rulering for.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Pre approval, I know, guys were getting offered anywhere from
fifty to one hundred and fifty just to sign at.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Schools cash under the table, like the table, mom and apartment.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
There was guys who parents were getting job offers. I
mean at one point we were because Malibi Bug Company
was out of Tennessee. And then they're like, oh, let's
get you a bowl, like let's get and we're like, yeah,
we can't do any of that illegal, Yeah, I won't
be able to play football anymore. And so there was
a bunch of that, and so you're getting like a
(12:09):
signing bonus and then it's like, we're going to pay
you another two to four k a month on top
of your you know, scholarship check you get. And guys
were going for it. And now that's like your third
four string, Like punters are making that much downright, And
that was like your top tier guys at the time. So,
I mean it's insane. I would add a lake house
(12:32):
and boat everything if what do you think your nil
valuation starting quarter? I mean Nico got eight millions of time,
I mean four cut it in half just because of
the ears.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, wow, you didn't touch you get close to the album.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, I got maybe a couple of grand a month.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
And that wasn't a couple and that wasn't even a
person that was a part of the program.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Let's go back to the break Quarterback Institute real quick.
What was the vision and what made you?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
What made you guys like, we'll turn in the jets
on and let's go, and then talking about the camp.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, so with great Quarterback Institute.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I've coached, you know, four years at the high school
level at our alma matern, Kingsburg. I coached at Redley
for three years at Reeby College. I played that the
year after Josh Allen. So I love the head coach
over there, Coach Hart. He's a great guy and spent
a lot of time there Junecote World. It's a lot
of work, right, you're recruiting guys in, you're recruiting guys
(13:35):
out at a two year old now, and so to me,
my goal was always to coach d one, and then
now that I have my son, it was like, Okay,
if I coach D one, I'm not going to have
the time for him or my wife. And so changed
my thinking on things, and I stepped away from Reedley
and was like, okay, well I was out of coaching
(13:55):
for like a month and was like, I can't do this,
So I'm going to start the QB training stuff, start
a great quarterback institute.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
July blew faster than I thought it was going to.
I've had a lot of guys's obviously helped.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Me out to get my name out there, you know,
and and.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Then I was training so many guys didn't have the time.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
So then I I brought on Tyler and we've expanded
now so we're coming up on a year of training qbs,
and you know, I think really things the right way.
Everything we're teaching guys is what they're going to be
taught at the pro level. You know, when you're when you're.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Playing in college, they you know, you're going to have
certain coaches that are going to.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Teach you high school stuff in different things like that,
you know, to the lover, but everything we're going to
teach you from the pros because we've done it right,
and so the Great Quarterback Institute is you know, we're
growing fast and you know all of our sessions, well,
my sessions are based out of Kingsburg, so I'm able
to tailor to the Vicelia group, Tilarry group as well
as Presno and then he trains out of Clovis West
(14:54):
right now, so he's kind of handling all the Fresno guys.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So it's been good. I mean, we're just kind of
waiting to see how this is going to keep rying.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And then you started to said, hey, we're gonna do
the camp.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Yeah, so with the camp. When I first started this,
I told my wife, Hey, I wanted to do a
free football camp here in the next three to five years.
Kind of told me how it was crazy. You know,
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
My mom picks up psych right, so they all do.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
I think everyone thinks I have a lot of ambition
and certain things, and I kind of will will drive
myself to do a lot of things, even though I
maybe I may be off the amount of time I have.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
But yeah, with that, I mean, it's it's been it's
been crazy. Sorry. By train of thought, you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Were like some nicotine, right I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And you know what I gotta say, so it is
uh And I honestly I admire anybody who makes that
jump because everyone thinks you're done when you start something new.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's something I learned is you know, I have no
family or history or friends who are social media guys
by any means. Right, I was an ag business major
at President State.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I wasn't the type of guy when I was in
like a low point in my career, like I didn't
want to post on social media. I didn't want people
to think that I was distracted, you know. But you
have a good game where you make a little you
get an award, you make a promotion.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's like, hey, I'm gonna I work myself to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm want to post one three I want to post
three times a year maybe, man. And you know, when
I wanted to decided I wanted to start a pot,
I was kind of coming out of my shelf on
like a social media side of things, and it's like,
you're gonna be maybe one of these guys, right, And
I'm just like, how can I make it not trying
to be politically correct?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You're like, how can I make it not like you're
that guy.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You're the annoying social media guy, right like, And I just.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I was at a point where when you're done playing ball,
it's very.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Hard to adjust to normal life.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You're used to a schedule, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Used to a high standard of operating around the people
you're around, whether which in football, your coaches, and now
it's like, you don't have to keep your body physically
at the top peak performance necessarily like you could, you'd
like to, but you don't have to write. I don't
have to watch what I eat for breakfast diligently so
(17:21):
I don't puke at practice and then I need to.
I don't need to force myself to chug power shake
so that I make my you know, one hundred and
sixty seven pounds late, right.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like, like I all that's out the windows. Now you
can sleep in wherever you want. And I'm sure you
guys deal with this. Where half the guys.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Don't have to do that anymore and then become a pieces.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
They're playing video games on their girlfriend's couch, they're not working,
they're making excuses.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Maybe they're still trying to go to the league.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Half by going into the park and doing a couple
of ladder drills three times a week, like when you
guys know who I'm talking about. And then there's also
the other guys who take the foundation it takes to
like be successful in an elite football program, which means
showing up all time, having a notebook open and keep
(18:12):
notes on even though you know exactly what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Maybe your body's good right now, but you're getting ice
tub because you know you should like being a pro right.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You could take those tools and apply them to starting
a business starting you know, being a father, doing whatever
they might be working for someone else, being a restaurant,
you know, concierge or something like, you could kick a
lot as in this small because there's a lot of
people that didn't go through that foundation and learn those
things and put those tools in those toolbox.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So it's like however you utilize it. So, you know,
I was just at that point where I was like,
how can I take.
Speaker 11 (18:46):
This all day that I was so try hard and
was so important to me at that time in my life,
Like I might just throw it away and become like
a nine to five.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Guy, And I was just like, there's got to be
more to it, and going through that stage.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I went on a few pause and kind of told my.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Two cents of how I'm not a physical specimen, but
you could go further than you think if you mentally
try to get the competitive edge on things. That's just
the reality of things. And I mean I tell my
brother right now, like you know your playbook, another that
he doesn't know his playbook. And there's fifteen guys, you're
on the top half that fifteen close to it just
(19:26):
because you especially.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
In high school.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm talking to nfright now, but in high school, if
you there's twenty receivers in a high school receiver room
at Cloviswest, right, ten of those guys are dumbs that
don't know their plays.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The coaches is never gonna play now, they're just on
the team.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
The other ten guys, maybe there's one stud and there's
a bunch of so so kind of fast guys.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You know your plays and you're in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Wait, even if you don't catch a ball and you're
not that fast, like they're gonna be like, I trust
this guy, he's gonna block, he's got to take the
you know, the safety deep. It's all about trying to
piece all together. But all that to be said, it takes.
It takes to take that leap and being like, like
you said, like you're talking to you know, I'm always
(20:14):
talking to my mom, talking to my wife, being like,
I really think I should do this, man, I really
think I know I can do it, but no.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
One else is done it it, or maybe someone has
done it, but I'm like, I like what they did,
and I like what that guy did, but this is
how I would do it. It takes them to do it.
So I commend you guys for taking that step and
in shooting your shot. And you know, like I said,
you talk to your wife about I won't.
Speaker 11 (20:37):
Have a camp in three to five years and and
so well, yeah, you'll learn from it and the next
one will be better.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
And you know with my wife, she's like, well why
are you know, and like other people too, like why
are you putting that free camp?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You could charge people?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
And me working at the school I do you know,
I work in the course school district and everything, like
a lot of kids don't have access to camps and
things that maybe we had access to. So what the
free part of it?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:05):
My wife, No, it's going to be freedom by Wist
I'm not going to charge people for this camp to
be all positions and it's gonna salcery so that like
everybody can be involved, you know, And I want to
do it at Clovise West because then it's not I
think too far of a drive for everything.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You know, it's pretty central.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I used to train there in high school with everybody.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Yeah, everybody knows where it's at sure. So for me,
the free cart was is to give back. You know,
there's you know, like I said, teaching in this in
this industry and with the kids I deal with, we
don't they don't have the the things that we had,
and so you know, kind of navigating that and you know,
shout out to.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
A bunch of sponsors, you know, thank you bring the juice, you.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Know, being a sponsor, you know, Cecial Valley sportsdiate for
the the for the merch you know, it's you know,
them to do the Ted Fellner Memorial Scholarship Foundation. You know,
there there's a lot of and even scrup can I
don't know if you're you know, they donated as well.
You know you played after Brisinal State. It's it's one
(22:05):
of those things where I wanted to make this a
community event. Yeah, yes, it's a camp. Right, You're gonna
get coaching from from pros, from college players with Kenny
Wiggins from you know, all these guys, and and it's
gonna be yeah right there where it's gonna be a
big event to where you're gonna be coaching that you're
gonna normally have to pay for, right, and you're.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Not gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
And and that was one of those things where our
Gold is the oldest free camp every single year, and
so that way everybody can go.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know, I think all the kids in the Central
Valley are entitled to good coaching. I don't necessarily think
that they always get that, but you know, guys try
their hardest.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
But you know, I think it's important that to get
coaching from guys that have been there and done that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The world and all that.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
But yeah, I think it's important when you when you've
played at that level and you you kind of know what, dude, expect.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
We can kind of help you with like the mental
part you're talking about, yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Right, like knowing your plays right, how to study film,
doing the different things right. Like I've talked about this before,
like the eighty twenty rule, right, twenty percent of skill,
eighty percent is mental.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Like when you get to the pro or college and
pro level, I don't care how good you are.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
If you don't know the plays, especially when stuff gets
real wordy and the plays are crazy fast.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You're not going to get on this field.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
I don't care, right, And so the eighty percent, like, yeah,
we're going to help you with all the mechanics and
all the throwing and all that stuff that's going to
be pro level. But also the pro level stuff is
going to be the film study, which I think is
lacking here in the valley. You know, I've got a
bunch of recruits out of the valley that have been
to other quarterback coaches. When I was coaching at releague.
We sit in the room and I'm like, you don't
(23:47):
know anything. Yeah, like we're having I can't play you. Yeah,
Like if you're a study, I can't put your six.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Two two ten pounds.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You're a D one guy, I can't play you because
you don't know the difference between two and four puts creamy, right,
And so that's where it's like, Okay, well, now it's
start over, and now it's building up everything that you
may get you on the.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Field for you to make the right decision because.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
You could throw a perfect so you could go a
perfect spire all day, right, but if you're throwing it
to the other team, you usually don't have to read defense.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
It really matter, no, right it doesn't.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
And so that's kind of why I started Great Quarterback
Institute was I'm at be the College and I'm like, man,
there's such a lack in the film study and and
the knowledge of the game.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
That way to change up.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
So bring the Juice Podcast with Frank Delana and thirteen
forty Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay, since you very respected program right now, and obviously
where Cardos will get into that. But people always would
grade when when the players do the grades, like the
facilities would always get very bad grade.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
What And I wondered.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Because like listen, you played an app stated the president
are like, what is what causes a grade for a
facility to be? So basically what are you tak into account?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think mostly because a lot of them guys.
Speaker 14 (25:04):
So it's more so the free agents come in and say, man,
it's not like like.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Like my time with Vaughn. He'll tell me like if
it was like something that he didn't agree with. He
was like, man, this is not that. Don't get don't
get calling this because this is not how it should be.
Like our first year.
Speaker 14 (25:20):
We went like three and three and fourteen. You're like, bro,
don't get I noticed your first your first year. This
is the only place you've done being at. Don't think
that is how the NFL is supposed to be. So
he's okay, no, it's not this. So he's telling Joe,
he's telling the TV, he's telling he's telling all these
guys that never being nowhere else besides here. So now
(25:43):
we're telling the head coach. And that's where it goes.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
In the grades. We was like, we come together, like yo,
we need to get them bad grades.
Speaker 14 (25:49):
So they feel some some heat from the media to
fans and all that to change that. Because after we
did a super after we won the Super Bowl, they
came and changed the locker room, the uh training room,
the hot to signers, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
They upgraded all the bathrooms everything.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So because that's that's that's a big thing.
Speaker 13 (26:09):
I mean, you played in the biggest game of football,
and there's no bigger game than I mean, take us
to the take us to the playoff journey and then
getting to we'll get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Take us to the playoff journey. So like, did you.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Guys win the division that year?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah? Do you want a division?
Speaker 13 (26:26):
Okay, so now you're going into the playoffs, So what
is the atmosphere, Like people who don't know like playoffs?
Is playoffs different from regular season? Or is it like
a bigger game? Or like how does that? How does
that work that?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Well?
Speaker 14 (26:35):
That year went to Super Bowl. I broke my foot
halfway through the season.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I re broke it.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
Yeah, so I was going through the games, I was
on the side, was playing in the game.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yeah, I know. So like.
Speaker 14 (26:52):
I was happy for people, but you know, in the
back of your life, like you don't want you want
them to win it, but you don't really want them
to just like damn what the needs you for going crazy?
So then I mean that that following year, we actually
went back to the actual championship game, so we won
the division again. I can talk I can talk through
(27:12):
that all the way up to that championship game. Yeah,
the playoffs definitely is like a a different experience then
then the regular season, like from the fans from the
way were the way we.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Talked, the way we at we just like none of
the regular season mattered. No more. Is this this game?
And is it not who we might play next week?
This game? And this is it? Is it the winner
go home? Man? Like the feel of it just is
just crazy. And we had played that year.
Speaker 14 (27:43):
We played Baltimore in the the playoffs and nobody really
wanted to play because you know they it's gonna be
a it's the divisional divisional game exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Playoff game.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Lamar's searching.
Speaker 15 (27:59):
Well, likeily, Lamar didn't playing the game, so uh uh.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, still he had a little heater there for a second.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
I had called I had I think our first drobing
d I had caught a pick.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, when you catch this pick, was you thinking six?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I had to I had to die for that pick.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Still leading in the super Bowl though, Super.
Speaker 14 (28:22):
Bowl week, Super going to super is crazy. It's just
because like everybody's talking about it in.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
The last two years for radio row as a media,
everybody's there.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
What city was it in there?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
L A, that's crazy game. We should we should have
won that game. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (28:43):
The problem the problem we was up. We was up
at the halftime. I think going in like late third quarter,
early four God, you can you can feel like on
the sounding like guys like how we won. Now, it's
like you think that everybody thinking about after the game.
Everybody's like they felt we had the game one because
(29:07):
we're don't stop their drive.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
They're not doing that. We up.
Speaker 14 (29:10):
So everybody's like kind of liking that. Let's try not
to win the game. Not let's try not to lose
the game. Let's try to win.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
My brother shouldn't have stands. We shouldn't have stands with
just a bunch of fans.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Bro.
Speaker 13 (29:24):
That was the wildest game, like the craziest thing ever been.
That was probably my favorite memory.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Of football, Like outside of playing I was playing with.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
My favorite Like that was crazy. It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
But the week Aard was crazy.
Speaker 14 (29:35):
Being out there, you just get it like a different vibe,
like you just made it to the top, to the
top stage like everybody wanted.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Everybody want to be right.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Well, you play football for so long too, and it's like,
you know, it's dope. Your first day of college when
you get all the free get used to that in
high school, Like I'm sure the league like okay, you're
getting a paycheck. This is dope, Like playing first game
is dope, but like I feel like guys repetitively over time,
over time, over time, Like very few dudes get to
(30:07):
play in the super Bowl. Like that's what I'm sharing. No, true,
but I'm saying like if you were to put a
whiteboard up of legends in the league, there's a lot
of them that don't get to put.
Speaker 14 (30:17):
Super bowls, bro, and they miss they missing that a
lot of them that's different like that. It's hard even
because like you know, like the biggest celebrity is there
watching the game. But I remember walking around the field
there walm up jay Z walking.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Around the field. He got his kids with them, like
this is called everybody's there.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Hollered at him.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
It was good.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I want I wonder by how I meeting with my kids?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
My kids there you go tell me about and I
feel like we got to get into this a little
bit like you were married a Cincy for such a
long time and now you're an az and good things
are coming. Did it feel like a breakup?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Did it feel?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, obviously there's a that comes to it, bro.
Speaker 14 (31:02):
I mean I was talking to my mom the other
day about this because see I mean she stuck on Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'm still fighting herd. But I mean yeah, I mean like.
Speaker 14 (31:18):
Like they wanted me to come back, but like the
opportunity and the money, this didn't make sense. And I'm like,
I can stay there and play right like eight nine years,
I stay healthy. But it's like you gotta give yourself
a chance. Yeah, like you gotta want more for your
stuff instead of like this bring your stuff away in
(31:41):
an organization. And I'm like, I need that new that
new child of new goals that they that a team
allowed me to at least attempt to achieve. So like mistally,
I was okay with me.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I was ready.
Speaker 14 (31:56):
I was ready to go and try to go out
and thompis those goals. But apart of me, I mean
I would have made so many good friends, close friends,
people I can call brother contact anytime. I had watched
my kids grow up there, like I have my son there.
(32:17):
So a part of that was like dang leaving, leaving
all that in Cincinnati and just starting starting over, starting fresh.
So I mean it was it was hard, especially for me.
It's almost reminded me like being in college for fires.
I was app five then spending five there.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
But I don't know.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
It was a different feeling, but it took me. It
took me like a day or two to get over.
But I mean you come out of a Z.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean you got plenty of plenty of things of
the strategy.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 14 (32:50):
Plenty of vacations, experience and stuff I see might signs.
I'm like rounding him when we both came outside of
saying day, I'm like this day, I'm like you, I'm
you're coming out.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Here like like what is and again this is for like,
this is for you to haven't asked you this? Like
all right, you guys are both new guys here in Arizona.
You're in a conference that's like kind of could be
the best in the country. But also it's like kind
of wide open. We've got the pieces, like you could
(33:22):
get hot walking in the building. Haven't really been in
the full uniform for a game yet, but like, what's
the vibes for the Cardinals.
Speaker 14 (33:31):
I mean, I remember when they when my agent hit
me up and saying that hey, a Z want you,
and I'm like, hey, let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I test Mac Matt Wilson.
Speaker 14 (33:44):
I'm like, Yo, there's no reason why we don't take
over the division and go deep into the playoffs and
that ship. So, I mean, that's that's always my mindset
going into a season, and I'm I'm pretty sure that's
the mindset of the guys on this team. They're ready
to take that next step and it added some new
(34:05):
pieces and in every phase of the game.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I think the team is ready to do that.
Speaker 13 (34:11):
Yeah, I mean you could just you can see it.
I mean, this division, like you said, it could be
one of the best, but realistically it's not. So like
you know, there's nothing in this there's nothing this division
that tells me, all, damn, it's a hell we gotta
really fight for this. I think we could definitely take
the next step and win it. I mean I was
a part of it the Washington Commandage. Ain't nobody thought
we were going to be anything. We get a couple
(34:33):
of pieces here and there, next thing, you know, we
in the NFC Championship. So you know, we definitely have
the pieces here in Arizona to build something special, to
be something special, and it's about everybody locking in and
like you said one hundred times, you got to all
your role.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You get everybody on our.
Speaker 13 (34:47):
Team to commit to the role and not not be
that cancer in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Not man, we could take over.
Speaker 14 (34:56):
I mean, think about it, the same thing they did
to the commandity that we did the same in Cincinnati
and the Super Bowl. Nobody thought we was going half
a year late. That it's just like you got to
believe it in the locker room. You can't worry about
the outside noise. Longs we fifty three uh sixty something,
seventy something people in that building believe that that we can,
(35:19):
that we can win, that we can do it on
a consistent basis.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Then I mean, this guy's the limited. There's nothing we
can't do.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Like so all right, last question, because I don't know
why I was talking about the new Jell code story
about the the Browns, like I think that this is
a hot take.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's actually a hot take.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And don't get wrong, the Bengals all white jerseys with
sex bro the black Cardinals jerseys might be top three.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I ain't a lot. My tot three in the league.
Speaker 14 (35:53):
My hostel clos was the same clause as Arizona. So
like everybody from my all time like, oh, we can't
wait to see you back in there. They're red and black.
Speaker 13 (36:02):
I'm the same way like they Atlanta have some stuff,
but there he got some they got.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Well a keem.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I expect a jersey on to bring the juice Wall
of fame one of these days. I hope I can
get right Mike puts it in. Mike actually gave me
his jersey, first guy to be on the wall gave
it to me. I was like, oh, this is great
put on the wall, creating a studio.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
We got to sign it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
So I got all these jerseys in the wol and
he sits on it, sits behind it.
Speaker 15 (36:31):
It's in the best it's on the best position out
of the whole studio.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Anybody like it's right.
Speaker 15 (36:37):
Behind him, like it's from only one, only one who
doesn't have a sick And Mike would have five paragraph
essay on it's stunk when I flew it home from Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like yeah, okay, the guy one of those type of things.
But came seriously, but I appreciate you taking the time
of slade on and bring the juice for a minute.
Got to get you out to Fresno one of these
days I get We got good steaks, got hennessy, we
got tequila. There, we got some great like as is
cool but we gotta we gotta get a little little
little pocket little five.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
People follow him on the gram, listen to this pod, subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe,
and buy some merch. But Cardinals, Uh, I'll be in
easy August ninth, Bro, But I'm not going to Cardinals here,
but I've still gonna be here in support. My brother
plays for the Chiefs. Now, yeah, he went on drafted
(37:31):
free agent a couple of weeks ago. We played, We
played the Chiefs August ninth, August.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
August, October, be out here. But until then, I hope
it's a great thing. Hope you guys go to the games.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I'm expecting to go to the games.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Are they're good? The fans are dope, fans is crazy. Yeah,
it's crazy, arrowheads nuts.
Speaker 14 (37:55):
And of course, I mean I don't know how the
games is for other teams. But they hated the assist
NAT and we beat them in the attemptionship in twenty one.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So they created a little rivalry. Almost. There's some great
rivalries out here.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Hey, I'll preach this.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'll preach this league's fun right now. Football sports are fun.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Women's basketball's fun right now, Mike.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
The rest are trying to make it not fun, but
it's still fun.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, I appreciate you boys. UH got at the airport.
Make sure you get your watches from Max Orloff.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Mike vouch for that one.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Uh still close enough, I can't. We'll get you a
watch one of these days too, But until I appreciate
you
All alight, A right welcome back can bring the juice.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I have the Brave Brothers on today, Tyler, Austin appreciate
you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Tyler, you could you see it? You've grown a lot,
Saudi feel shorter around you.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
What's your body? Five percent? You right now? I don't
know Austin's first John asked me, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good more than these red wave lightlaggers are definitely not
hurting the cars.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Let's just drive right into it, Tyler. I want to
start with you, Uh, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
A lot of them's happened lately. You're a quarterback who
played at Tennessee. You're a Tennessee football alump, specifically in
that position. It's no secret that the fan with Riko,
what's your take as a former guy who quarterbacked at
that school? When Nil is doing what it's doing, it's
the wild West. We could get into that a little
(00:47):
bit later. But what's the taste in your mouth right now?
Are we moving forward? Are you saying audios or what?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You kind of got to move forward.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
So he kind of put Tennessee in a bad situation
when it came to asking for more money, and I
get it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
The market everything for qbs right now is off the charts.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
We were talking before about the guy from Tulane Mensa
that transfer to Duke a dollar quarterback. Good for him, Yeah,
oh great, but that's what the going rate for qbs
is these days in college, and so he wanted more money.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
But the numbers don't lie. Yeah, so when you're a
can't shoot the stats.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We're not even in the top fifty for passing yards,
rushing yards, none of that. But you're running back is
a top ten guy, your defense top ten defense, right, Like,
that's why you're winning games. And then you want to
go out and kind of stronghold Tennessee and like I
want more money or I'm leaving like they're given to him,
(01:45):
they got to give them to everybody else.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Did it feel like too?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And also you can chime in on your like, Pova this,
did it not feel like that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It wasn't an inside conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You did not feel like he was more like Twitter
beef between I mean the football program and Nico's party,
rather than being like going up to the coach's office
and saying like, hey, this this is what I'm probably
worth right here. I feel like it got out of
the lines pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, and that's that's one thing where you know his dad.
I mean, we don't know the full picture either. His
dad could have been trying to make loose behind the scenes,
like Dan Lanning's sitting there and calling coaching like, hey,
your QB's dad's like reaching out to us talking about transferring.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like who knows what's really going on behind Cloy's doors.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
But if they give in to him right there and
we're like, oh, yeah, we'll pay you a.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Bunch of money. Yeah, then you have your DN coming
up to you next, I want more money. Then this
guy wants more money.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think the.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Biggest thing is to keep the parents. Got to stay
out of it. There are too emotionally invested. Yeah, it's
got to That's wherever it's got to change. And hopefully,
you know a lot of these agents and things get
involved with these players and do that keep the parents
out of it, and you know, make it a business.
And I think it was all communication issue with it,
and they wanted to make it a shout right, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And I think that's where hopefully.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
There's more changes and more restrictions on things moving forward
with college.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
What do you think the market is like, and I
think it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Mikey Kean's a good buddy of mine.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He just left President State after coming from UCF and
he can going to Michigan, and I think a lot
of people were.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Like, Yo, that's an interesting move there.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I know Micky Keen from a guy who threw my
brother the ball perspective, and I know Mikiy Keen from
a come out for dinner like Mike, you're.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
A cool gunning perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Great dude.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I will always have Mikey King's back, and I do
believe in the right offense, he could thrive and success
succeed with an O line and you know, a couple
of weapons, but he could get it there when healthy.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I think he was beat up a lot of his career.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Or two here, not pulling the fingers to anybody, but
long story short, he goes to Michigan in a situation
where they have all the guys that they're paying.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
To be quarterback, the number one guy in the country. Yeah, yeah,
that one.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So at a place like Tennessee because I consider them
a blue blood. What you think the market is right
now for a QB one paycheck, QB two paycheck paycheck
and QB three paycheck? Like, how should that be staggered?
What do you think the market is right now?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Starting QB. I guess it is eight million, it is
eight million. Yeah, that's going right right now, eight to ten, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Going right right. I mean I guess power. I mean
you're powered by.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
SEC, SEC called SEC.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, well for sure, I mean it's gotta be right.
There's so much money involved in college football.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So does QB two get four million or do they
get another eight million?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Because they're going in behind it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like that's where you think, like, Okay, let's say we
have a senior who's getting paid eight million.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
He's the Now we have a really good.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sophomore who's a psycho athlete, I know, and he's once
that guy leaves, and then we just recruited this five
star Like are you spending twenty four million or twenty
million dollars on corbat to this point?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
No, I think what's going on is these so the
recruit if you're getting recruited to school and you're like
the what is Bryce Underwood? Yeah kid from Michigan, Like
you're getting the most money, Like you're going to come
in being the highest paid QB probably in the room
unless you have you're coming into a guy that's you know,
an archie man, right like, and that's it scenario, like
(05:25):
you're not coming to be the nicest update Like they're
going to pay them, right, So it's kind of depends
on different schools and situations. But the QB's, I mean,
they're just hired mercenaries at this point.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, it's an investment, right, Like I feel like it's
potential to like if you have a because I've been
a part of college programs where the backup was the
backup now, but the next year, he's probably not going
to be the starter, right. They're grooving at like the
third string he's just young, right. These are on the offense.
If the first team got hurt, now the secondary is
going to go in, but the thirstream guys gonna beat
(05:57):
him out.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
He's just young right now.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Right, So that where I guess after the first string quarterback,
it kind of becomes Okay, what's the potential, right, what's
going to be the return on the investment?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Right?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
It's almost turned into like kind of stock market in
my opinion, right of like, Okay, but we're going to
pay this guy. You may not start now, but in
a year he's going to be that guy, so you
pay him more, right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, right, Billy, We really like this guy plays single
a in Cincinnati right now, Like he's forty.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Seven years old.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
He has one leg, Like we should sign it's on
base a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know you guys have the break quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Institute, Ken, and I think this is a good segue
to be like, okay, before we get into like what
division is you guys have guys that are getting offers, right,
I see it on your socials.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Clearly the secret sauce is working. How is from kind
of being in.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
A mentor mentorship role for these young athletes that are
now going into college.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Are you seeing any of the business side where I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Know you have a guy who just mentioned has a
couple offers all over the place.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Like are they communicating if you're like, hey, Miami offered
a scollarie and five.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Hundred thousand dollars signing bonus, Like what's the what's going.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
On with from the high school to college?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Carede Ry, Now.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I haven't heard anything JJ Howard Clovis West Sure shout out,
but I haven't heard any nil type deals when it
comes to this. He's still young. I mean he's just
turned fifteen. He's going to be a sophomore next year,
and so it's I don't think right now it's they're
talking numbers. I think it's like, we want to come
out because all these guys, like when you're in the valley,
(07:35):
you're not getting all the you know, notoriety across the nation.
Like you've got to travel to camps and do the
camp circuit.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So that's what he's doing right now.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
He's going to all these schools because as a young guy,
they want to see their live. Sure, there's ways to
pimp out on a camera, like oh, this guy has
a rocket arm and then you watch them live and
it's like he has a noodle. There's waste to you know,
camera angles. So they want to see the guy live. Deception,
yeah there, and so they want to see these guys
still alive. And for him it's been great. I mean
(08:05):
he's going to all these camps and it's like, oh,
you're going to the camp today. It's probably another offer. Yeah,
and it has been so far. So it's it's I
haven't heard any of the nil stuff yet. Kind of
he wants to be as he just wants to focus
on football, so he's not really worried about that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah. I think after this season the nil talk will
start to ramp up. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And it's one of those things where like colleges, I
mean there's rumors right out there about Kurty Smart paying
kids twenty thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars a month to
stay committed, to stay committed, and then if they don't sign,
they pay all their money back, So theoretically like a
loan right of like, this is how these colleges.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Are keeping commits. Right, It's a business. It is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
When we played, you know, we wish it. I wish
you know, it was like this. Yeah. I remember when
he was at Tennessee.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
We'd go to a game and there'd be sixty seventy
thousand people with the number eight jersey on it, no
name on the back, everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Knows the number eight is. You're not seeing a dollar
out of that.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
So that's where it's to me. I think we're going
to start to see more of that, especially with JJ Okay.
If you want to keep him committed, if you know,
if this is his drape school, well, how do you
keep other schools from outbidding you, right, that's what.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It is, and so that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So guys are keeping players that are committed.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Almost on retainer at this point, and that's rumors, right, like.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We don't know already.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And we saw it on Twitter. You know. Lane Kiffin
is a lot of things, but I don't think he's
a liared. I think he speaks his truth too much,
and so.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I think him saying those things, you're like, Okay, well
you got to take some sort of credit out of.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That, right, I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that
they're paying guys.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh my god, I mean think about that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But at one point, like there there's a lot of
brown paper bags that ifting changed old years.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
And I kind of busted for talk about on the Yeah,
I mean, I do you think it's like it's so
hard because it's such a great area, right, it's the
wild goall we like, Okay, why can't you pay the
guy now even though you're gonna start paying him a
month Versus it used to be like you just can't,
you just can't.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Pay him at all?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Right, what do you think I mean you're, like I said,
you've been in the situation.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
They've always paid players, so let's get that out there.
I mean it's been happening for years. I mean Old
miss was a big one, Alabama was a huge one.
So they've always been paying players. They just did it
in secret. They had, you know, a couple of guys
removed from the program that we're handling everything to where
now it's just like how much do you want, Like
(10:42):
how much do we need to pay you this like
check yeah type of deal. Yeah, and they get you know,
they're getting car deals. I mean, look at Carson Beck,
he's driving a Lamborghini years everybody, every QB now is
a jet deal. It's like if we got a free
cheeseburger and college.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
I remember we were at Buffalo Wild Wings and the
owners sat down a stack of like three six winks
like coupons stackld and my dad just reached over to
give me those because nobody.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Can see that, right, they didn't see that, Like you're
in trouble right right where it's like, you know, we're
taking those, we can't have those right like, And that's
one of those things where it's so different now than
just six free winks right from the dubs.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Tell you were kind of in that prime sec degenerate
period of football, like college Saturdays. What's the craziest without
name dropping financial exchange rulering for.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Pre approval, I know, guys were getting offered anywhere from
fifty to one hundred and fifty just to sign at.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Schools cash under the table, like the table, mom and apartment.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
There was guys who parents were getting job offers. I
mean at one point we were because Malibi Bug Company
was out of Tennessee. And then they're like, oh, let's
get you a bowl, like let's get and we're like, yeah,
we can't do any of that illegal, Yeah, I won't
be able to play football anymore. And so there was
a bunch of that, and so you're getting like a
(12:09):
signing bonus and then it's like, we're going to pay
you another two to four k a month on top
of your you know, scholarship check you get. And guys
were going for it. And now that's like your third
four string, Like punters are making that much downright, And
that was like your top tier guys at the time. So,
I mean it's insane. I would add a lake house
(12:32):
and boat everything if what do you think your nil
valuation starting quarter? I mean Nico got eight millions of time,
I mean four cut it in half just because of
the ears.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, wow, you didn't touch you get close to the album.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, I got maybe a couple of grand a month.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
And that wasn't a couple and that wasn't even a
person that was a part of the program.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Let's go back to the break Quarterback Institute real quick.
What was the vision and what made you?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
What made you guys like, we'll turn in the jets
on and let's go, and then talking about the camp.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, so with great Quarterback Institute.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I've coached, you know, four years at the high school
level at our alma matern, Kingsburg. I coached at Redley
for three years at Reeby College. I played that the
year after Josh Allen. So I love the head coach
over there, Coach Hart. He's a great guy and spent
a lot of time there Junecote World. It's a lot
of work, right, you're recruiting guys in, you're recruiting guys
(13:35):
out at a two year old now, and so to me,
my goal was always to coach d one, and then
now that I have my son, it was like, Okay,
if I coach D one, I'm not going to have
the time for him or my wife. And so changed
my thinking on things, and I stepped away from Reedley
and was like, okay, well I was out of coaching
(13:55):
for like a month and was like, I can't do this,
So I'm going to start the QB training stuff, start
a great quarterback institute.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
July blew faster than I thought it was going to.
I've had a lot of guys's obviously helped.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Me out to get my name out there, you know,
and and.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Then I was training so many guys didn't have the time.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
So then I I brought on Tyler and we've expanded
now so we're coming up on a year of training qbs,
and you know, I think really things the right way.
Everything we're teaching guys is what they're going to be
taught at the pro level. You know, when you're when you're.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Playing in college, they you know, you're going to have
certain coaches that are going to.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Teach you high school stuff in different things like that,
you know, to the lover, but everything we're going to
teach you from the pros because we've done it right,
and so the Great Quarterback Institute is you know, we're
growing fast and you know all of our sessions, well,
my sessions are based out of Kingsburg, so I'm able
to tailor to the Vicelia group, Tilarry group as well
as Presno and then he trains out of Clovis West
(14:54):
right now, so he's kind of handling all the Fresno guys.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So it's been good. I mean, we're just kind of
waiting to see how this is going to keep rying.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And then you started to said, hey, we're gonna do
the camp.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Yeah, so with the camp. When I first started this,
I told my wife, Hey, I wanted to do a
free football camp here in the next three to five years.
Kind of told me how it was crazy. You know,
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
My mom picks up psych right, so they all do.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
I think everyone thinks I have a lot of ambition
and certain things, and I kind of will will drive
myself to do a lot of things, even though I
maybe I may be off the amount of time I have.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
But yeah, with that, I mean, it's it's been it's
been crazy. Sorry. By train of thought, you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Were like some nicotine, right I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And you know what I gotta say, so it is
uh And I honestly I admire anybody who makes that
jump because everyone thinks you're done when you start something new.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's something I learned is you know, I have no
family or history or friends who are social media guys
by any means. Right, I was an ag business major
at President State.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I wasn't the type of guy when I was in
like a low point in my career, like I didn't
want to post on social media. I didn't want people
to think that I was distracted, you know. But you
have a good game where you make a little you
get an award, you make a promotion.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's like, hey, I'm gonna I work myself to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm want to post one three I want to post
three times a year maybe, man. And you know, when
I wanted to decided I wanted to start a pot,
I was kind of coming out of my shelf on
like a social media side of things, and it's like,
you're gonna be maybe one of these guys, right, And
I'm just like, how can I make it not trying
to be politically correct?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You're like, how can I make it not like you're
that guy.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You're the annoying social media guy, right like, And I just.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I was at a point where when you're done playing ball,
it's very.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Hard to adjust to normal life.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You're used to a schedule, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Used to a high standard of operating around the people
you're around, whether which in football, your coaches, and now
it's like, you don't have to keep your body physically
at the top peak performance necessarily like you could, you'd
like to, but you don't have to write. I don't
have to watch what I eat for breakfast diligently so
(17:21):
I don't puke at practice and then I need to.
I don't need to force myself to chug power shake
so that I make my you know, one hundred and
sixty seven pounds late, right.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like, like I all that's out the windows. Now you
can sleep in wherever you want. And I'm sure you
guys deal with this. Where half the guys.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Don't have to do that anymore and then become a pieces.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
They're playing video games on their girlfriend's couch, they're not working,
they're making excuses.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Maybe they're still trying to go to the league.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Half by going into the park and doing a couple
of ladder drills three times a week, like when you
guys know who I'm talking about. And then there's also
the other guys who take the foundation it takes to
like be successful in an elite football program, which means
showing up all time, having a notebook open and keep
(18:12):
notes on even though you know exactly what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Maybe your body's good right now, but you're getting ice
tub because you know you should like being a pro right.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You could take those tools and apply them to starting
a business starting you know, being a father, doing whatever
they might be working for someone else, being a restaurant,
you know, concierge or something like, you could kick a
lot as in this small because there's a lot of
people that didn't go through that foundation and learn those
things and put those tools in those toolbox.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So it's like however you utilize it. So, you know,
I was just at that point where I was like,
how can I take.
Speaker 11 (18:46):
This all day that I was so try hard and
was so important to me at that time in my life,
Like I might just throw it away and become like
a nine to five.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Guy, And I was just like, there's got to be
more to it, and going through that stage.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I went on a few pause and kind of told my.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Two cents of how I'm not a physical specimen, but
you could go further than you think if you mentally
try to get the competitive edge on things. That's just
the reality of things. And I mean I tell my
brother right now, like you know your playbook, another that
he doesn't know his playbook. And there's fifteen guys, you're
on the top half that fifteen close to it just
(19:26):
because you especially.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
In high school.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm talking to nfright now, but in high school, if
you there's twenty receivers in a high school receiver room
at Cloviswest, right, ten of those guys are dumbs that
don't know their plays.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The coaches is never gonna play now, they're just on
the team.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
The other ten guys, maybe there's one stud and there's
a bunch of so so kind of fast guys.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You know your plays and you're in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Wait, even if you don't catch a ball and you're
not that fast, like they're gonna be like, I trust
this guy, he's gonna block, he's got to take the
you know, the safety deep. It's all about trying to
piece all together. But all that to be said, it takes.
It takes to take that leap and being like, like
you said, like you're talking to you know, I'm always
(20:14):
talking to my mom, talking to my wife, being like,
I really think I should do this, man, I really
think I know I can do it, but no.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
One else is done it it, or maybe someone has
done it, but I'm like, I like what they did,
and I like what that guy did, but this is
how I would do it. It takes them to do it.
So I commend you guys for taking that step and
in shooting your shot. And you know, like I said,
you talk to your wife about I won't.
Speaker 11 (20:37):
Have a camp in three to five years and and
so well, yeah, you'll learn from it and the next
one will be better.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
And you know with my wife, she's like, well why
are you know, and like other people too, like why
are you putting that free camp?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You could charge people?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
And me working at the school I do you know,
I work in the course school district and everything, like
a lot of kids don't have access to camps and
things that maybe we had access to. So what the
free part of it?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:05):
My wife, No, it's going to be freedom by Wist
I'm not going to charge people for this camp to
be all positions and it's gonna salcery so that like
everybody can be involved, you know, And I want to
do it at Clovise West because then it's not I
think too far of a drive for everything.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You know, it's pretty central.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I used to train there in high school with everybody.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Yeah, everybody knows where it's at sure. So for me,
the free cart was is to give back. You know,
there's you know, like I said, teaching in this in
this industry and with the kids I deal with, we
don't they don't have the the things that we had,
and so you know, kind of navigating that and you know,
shout out to.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
A bunch of sponsors, you know, thank you bring the juice, you.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Know, being a sponsor, you know, Cecial Valley sportsdiate for
the the for the merch you know, it's you know,
them to do the Ted Fellner Memorial Scholarship Foundation. You know,
there there's a lot of and even scrup can I
don't know if you're you know, they donated as well.
You know you played after Brisinal State. It's it's one
(22:05):
of those things where I wanted to make this a
community event. Yeah, yes, it's a camp. Right, You're gonna
get coaching from from pros, from college players with Kenny
Wiggins from you know, all these guys, and and it's
gonna be yeah right there where it's gonna be a
big event to where you're gonna be coaching that you're
gonna normally have to pay for, right, and you're.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Not gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
And and that was one of those things where our
Gold is the oldest free camp every single year, and
so that way everybody can go.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know, I think all the kids in the Central
Valley are entitled to good coaching. I don't necessarily think
that they always get that, but you know, guys try
their hardest.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
But you know, I think it's important that to get
coaching from guys that have been there and done that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The world and all that.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
But yeah, I think it's important when you when you've
played at that level and you you kind of know what, dude, expect.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
We can kind of help you with like the mental
part you're talking about, yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Right, like knowing your plays right, how to study film,
doing the different things right. Like I've talked about this before,
like the eighty twenty rule, right, twenty percent of skill,
eighty percent is mental.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Like when you get to the pro or college and
pro level, I don't care how good you are.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
If you don't know the plays, especially when stuff gets
real wordy and the plays are crazy fast.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You're not going to get on this field.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
I don't care, right, And so the eighty percent, like, yeah,
we're going to help you with all the mechanics and
all the throwing and all that stuff that's going to
be pro level. But also the pro level stuff is
going to be the film study, which I think is
lacking here in the valley. You know, I've got a
bunch of recruits out of the valley that have been
to other quarterback coaches. When I was coaching at releague.
We sit in the room and I'm like, you don't
(23:47):
know anything. Yeah, like we're having I can't play you. Yeah,
Like if you're a study, I can't put your six.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Two two ten pounds.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You're a D one guy, I can't play you because
you don't know the difference between two and four puts creamy, right,
And so that's where it's like, Okay, well, now it's
start over, and now it's building up everything that you
may get you on the.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Field for you to make the right decision because.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
You could throw a perfect so you could go a
perfect spire all day, right, but if you're throwing it
to the other team, you usually don't have to read defense.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
It really matter, no, right it doesn't.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
And so that's kind of why I started Great Quarterback
Institute was I'm at be the College and I'm like, man,
there's such a lack in the film study and and
the knowledge of the game.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
That way to change up.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
So bring the Juice Podcast with Frank Delana and thirteen
forty Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay, since you very respected program right now, and obviously
where Cardos will get into that. But people always would
grade when when the players do the grades, like the
facilities would always get very bad grade.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
What And I wondered.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Because like listen, you played an app stated the president
are like, what is what causes a grade for a
facility to be? So basically what are you tak into account?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think mostly because a lot of them guys.
Speaker 14 (25:04):
So it's more so the free agents come in and say, man,
it's not like like.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Like my time with Vaughn. He'll tell me like if
it was like something that he didn't agree with. He
was like, man, this is not that. Don't get don't
get calling this because this is not how it should be.
Like our first year.
Speaker 14 (25:20):
We went like three and three and fourteen. You're like, bro,
don't get I noticed your first your first year. This
is the only place you've done being at. Don't think
that is how the NFL is supposed to be. So
he's okay, no, it's not this. So he's telling Joe,
he's telling the TV, he's telling he's telling all these
guys that never being nowhere else besides here. So now
(25:43):
we're telling the head coach. And that's where it goes.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
In the grades. We was like, we come together, like yo,
we need to get them bad grades.
Speaker 14 (25:49):
So they feel some some heat from the media to
fans and all that to change that. Because after we
did a super after we won the Super Bowl, they
came and changed the locker room, the uh training room,
the hot to signers, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
They upgraded all the bathrooms everything.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So because that's that's that's a big thing.
Speaker 13 (26:09):
I mean, you played in the biggest game of football,
and there's no bigger game than I mean, take us
to the take us to the playoff journey and then
getting to we'll get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Take us to the playoff journey. So like, did you.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Guys win the division that year?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah? Do you want a division?
Speaker 13 (26:26):
Okay, so now you're going into the playoffs, So what
is the atmosphere, Like people who don't know like playoffs?
Is playoffs different from regular season? Or is it like
a bigger game? Or like how does that? How does
that work that?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Well?
Speaker 14 (26:35):
That year went to Super Bowl. I broke my foot
halfway through the season.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I re broke it.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
Yeah, so I was going through the games, I was
on the side, was playing in the game.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yeah, I know. So like.
Speaker 14 (26:52):
I was happy for people, but you know, in the
back of your life, like you don't want you want
them to win it, but you don't really want them
to just like damn what the needs you for going crazy?
So then I mean that that following year, we actually
went back to the actual championship game, so we won
the division again. I can talk I can talk through
(27:12):
that all the way up to that championship game. Yeah,
the playoffs definitely is like a a different experience then
then the regular season, like from the fans from the
way were the way we.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Talked, the way we at we just like none of
the regular season mattered. No more. Is this this game?
And is it not who we might play next week?
This game? And this is it? Is it the winner
go home? Man? Like the feel of it just is
just crazy. And we had played that year.
Speaker 14 (27:43):
We played Baltimore in the the playoffs and nobody really
wanted to play because you know they it's gonna be
a it's the divisional divisional game exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Playoff game.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Lamar's searching.
Speaker 15 (27:59):
Well, likeily, Lamar didn't playing the game, so uh uh.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, still he had a little heater there for a second.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
I had called I had I think our first drobing
d I had caught a pick.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, when you catch this pick, was you thinking six?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I had to I had to die for that pick.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Still leading in the super Bowl though, Super.
Speaker 14 (28:22):
Bowl week, Super going to super is crazy. It's just
because like everybody's talking about it in.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
The last two years for radio row as a media,
everybody's there.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
What city was it in there?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
L A, that's crazy game. We should we should have
won that game. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (28:43):
The problem the problem we was up. We was up
at the halftime. I think going in like late third quarter,
early four God, you can you can feel like on
the sounding like guys like how we won. Now, it's
like you think that everybody thinking about after the game.
Everybody's like they felt we had the game one because
(29:07):
we're don't stop their drive.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
They're not doing that. We up.
Speaker 14 (29:10):
So everybody's like kind of liking that. Let's try not
to win the game. Not let's try not to lose
the game. Let's try to win.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
My brother shouldn't have stands. We shouldn't have stands with
just a bunch of fans.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Bro.
Speaker 13 (29:24):
That was the wildest game, like the craziest thing ever been.
That was probably my favorite memory.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Of football, Like outside of playing I was playing with.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
My favorite Like that was crazy. It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
But the week Aard was crazy.
Speaker 14 (29:35):
Being out there, you just get it like a different vibe,
like you just made it to the top, to the
top stage like everybody wanted.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Everybody want to be right.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Well, you play football for so long too, and it's like,
you know, it's dope. Your first day of college when
you get all the free get used to that in
high school, Like I'm sure the league like okay, you're
getting a paycheck. This is dope, Like playing first game
is dope, but like I feel like guys repetitively over time,
over time, over time, Like very few dudes get to
(30:07):
play in the super Bowl. Like that's what I'm sharing. No, true,
but I'm saying like if you were to put a
whiteboard up of legends in the league, there's a lot
of them that don't get to put.
Speaker 14 (30:17):
Super bowls, bro, and they miss they missing that a
lot of them that's different like that. It's hard even
because like you know, like the biggest celebrity is there
watching the game. But I remember walking around the field
there walm up jay Z walking.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Around the field. He got his kids with them, like
this is called everybody's there.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Hollered at him.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
It was good.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I want I wonder by how I meeting with my kids?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
My kids there you go tell me about and I
feel like we got to get into this a little
bit like you were married a Cincy for such a
long time and now you're an az and good things
are coming. Did it feel like a breakup?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Did it feel?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, obviously there's a that comes to it, bro.
Speaker 14 (31:02):
I mean I was talking to my mom the other
day about this because see I mean she stuck on Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'm still fighting herd. But I mean yeah, I mean like.
Speaker 14 (31:18):
Like they wanted me to come back, but like the
opportunity and the money, this didn't make sense. And I'm like,
I can stay there and play right like eight nine years,
I stay healthy. But it's like you gotta give yourself
a chance. Yeah, like you gotta want more for your
stuff instead of like this bring your stuff away in
(31:41):
an organization. And I'm like, I need that new that
new child of new goals that they that a team
allowed me to at least attempt to achieve. So like mistally,
I was okay with me.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I was ready.
Speaker 14 (31:56):
I was ready to go and try to go out
and thompis those goals. But apart of me, I mean
I would have made so many good friends, close friends,
people I can call brother contact anytime. I had watched
my kids grow up there, like I have my son there.
(32:17):
So a part of that was like dang leaving, leaving
all that in Cincinnati and just starting starting over, starting fresh.
So I mean it was it was hard, especially for me.
It's almost reminded me like being in college for fires.
I was app five then spending five there.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
But I don't know.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
It was a different feeling, but it took me. It
took me like a day or two to get over.
But I mean you come out of a Z.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean you got plenty of plenty of things of
the strategy.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 14 (32:50):
Plenty of vacations, experience and stuff I see might signs.
I'm like rounding him when we both came outside of
saying day, I'm like this day, I'm like you, I'm
you're coming out.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Here like like what is and again this is for like,
this is for you to haven't asked you this? Like
all right, you guys are both new guys here in Arizona.
You're in a conference that's like kind of could be
the best in the country. But also it's like kind
of wide open. We've got the pieces, like you could
(33:22):
get hot walking in the building. Haven't really been in
the full uniform for a game yet, but like, what's
the vibes for the Cardinals.
Speaker 14 (33:31):
I mean, I remember when they when my agent hit
me up and saying that hey, a Z want you,
and I'm like, hey, let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I test Mac Matt Wilson.
Speaker 14 (33:44):
I'm like, Yo, there's no reason why we don't take
over the division and go deep into the playoffs and
that ship. So, I mean, that's that's always my mindset
going into a season, and I'm I'm pretty sure that's
the mindset of the guys on this team. They're ready
to take that next step and it added some new
(34:05):
pieces and in every phase of the game.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I think the team is ready to do that.
Speaker 13 (34:11):
Yeah, I mean you could just you can see it.
I mean, this division, like you said, it could be
one of the best, but realistically it's not. So like
you know, there's nothing in this there's nothing this division
that tells me, all, damn, it's a hell we gotta
really fight for this. I think we could definitely take
the next step and win it. I mean I was
a part of it the Washington Commandage. Ain't nobody thought
we were going to be anything. We get a couple
(34:33):
of pieces here and there, next thing, you know, we
in the NFC Championship. So you know, we definitely have
the pieces here in Arizona to build something special, to
be something special, and it's about everybody locking in and
like you said one hundred times, you got to all
your role.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You get everybody on our.
Speaker 13 (34:47):
Team to commit to the role and not not be
that cancer in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Not man, we could take over.
Speaker 14 (34:56):
I mean, think about it, the same thing they did
to the commandity that we did the same in Cincinnati
and the Super Bowl. Nobody thought we was going half
a year late. That it's just like you got to
believe it in the locker room. You can't worry about
the outside noise. Longs we fifty three uh sixty something,
seventy something people in that building believe that that we can,
(35:19):
that we can win, that we can do it on
a consistent basis.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Then I mean, this guy's the limited. There's nothing we
can't do.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Like so all right, last question, because I don't know
why I was talking about the new Jell code story
about the the Browns, like I think that this is
a hot take.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's actually a hot take.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And don't get wrong, the Bengals all white jerseys with
sex bro the black Cardinals jerseys might be top three.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I ain't a lot. My tot three in the league.
Speaker 14 (35:53):
My hostel clos was the same clause as Arizona. So
like everybody from my all time like, oh, we can't
wait to see you back in there. They're red and black.
Speaker 13 (36:02):
I'm the same way like they Atlanta have some stuff,
but there he got some they got.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Well a keem.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I expect a jersey on to bring the juice Wall
of fame one of these days. I hope I can
get right Mike puts it in. Mike actually gave me
his jersey, first guy to be on the wall gave
it to me. I was like, oh, this is great
put on the wall, creating a studio.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
We got to sign it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
So I got all these jerseys in the wol and
he sits on it, sits behind it.
Speaker 15 (36:31):
It's in the best it's on the best position out
of the whole studio.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Anybody like it's right.
Speaker 15 (36:37):
Behind him, like it's from only one, only one who
doesn't have a sick And Mike would have five paragraph
essay on it's stunk when I flew it home from Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like yeah, okay, the guy one of those type of things.
But came seriously, but I appreciate you taking the time
of slade on and bring the juice for a minute.
Got to get you out to Fresno one of these
days I get We got good steaks, got hennessy, we
got tequila. There, we got some great like as is
cool but we gotta we gotta get a little little
little pocket little five.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
People follow him on the gram, listen to this pod, subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe,
and buy some merch. But Cardinals, Uh, I'll be in
easy August ninth, Bro, But I'm not going to Cardinals here,
but I've still gonna be here in support. My brother
plays for the Chiefs. Now, yeah, he went on drafted
(37:31):
free agent a couple of weeks ago. We played, We
played the Chiefs August ninth, August.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
August, October, be out here. But until then, I hope
it's a great thing. Hope you guys go to the games.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I'm expecting to go to the games.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Are they're good? The fans are dope, fans is crazy. Yeah,
it's crazy, arrowheads nuts.
Speaker 14 (37:55):
And of course, I mean I don't know how the
games is for other teams. But they hated the assist
NAT and we beat them in the attemptionship in twenty one.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So they created a little rivalry. Almost. There's some great
rivalries out here.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Hey, I'll preach this.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'll preach this league's fun right now. Football sports are fun.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Women's basketball's fun right now, Mike.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
The rest are trying to make it not fun, but
it's still fun.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, I appreciate you boys. UH got at the airport.
Make sure you get your watches from Max Orloff.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Mike vouch for that one.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Uh still close enough, I can't. We'll get you a
watch one of these days too, But until I appreciate
you
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.