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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, all right, all right, we were back in
the home studio, got a og. Co host Michael Walker. Mike,
welcome back, man, welcome back. It's just it's so good
to have you. It's so refreshing to be back in studio.
I feel like the last like ten times we've seen
each other too. It's like brand and advance. Really, just
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chop it up. Can just have a lazy day, like, oh,
hey see your like Just give me a little bottle
of Hennessy. Let me just deconpress for a minute, turn
the air conditioning on, let me get me you know
what I mean? For sure, you look great, Mike, you
look great.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I appreciate you it man, you look you look good.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So to open up, I was I was obviously always
looking at content, and something crossed my page today that
I want to know your answer on. It's an internet debate.
If you have a thousand grapes in a bowl, Okay,
each grape you eat, you get fifty thousand dollars. There's
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one grape out of the thousand, though, that when you
eat it, you instantly die.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But you don't know what grape that is.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You don't know what grape it is. There's a thousand
grapes in a bowl. Each one you eat fifty g's,
but one of them in there instantly kills you. Can
I how many grapes.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Are you gonna eat? Can I stop? Whenever? You could?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You could eat one, you could eat ten, you could
eat you could go for nine hundred and ninety nine.
What's you're like? Okay, probably trying to do something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think me personally, I'm not a big gambler. Ever,
I don't think it's this is gambling, your gambling your life.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You're definitely gambling.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You're eating one.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
No, no, no, I'm gonna instantly die.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think my goal going into it is probably four,
four or five grapes. Four or five grapes grapes my
goal going into it, and then after I get to
four or five, I'm still alive.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Then you're gonna make a business decision.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Like, well, okay, four grapes, that's two d that's two
hundred grand.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Like see, my answer would be I go twenty grapes. See,
I think twenty grapes is a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, So let me ask you this now, are you
going twenty grapes straight?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
In this area? Are you spreading around a little bit?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You're gonna move around like, Okay, I'm going this side,
I'm gonna go back there.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I used to teaching what are you just.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Your visual right? There was bowl it's a thousand to
be like a.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Like, so you're hitting like this half and then for
like maybe five on this half, the five on that half.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So my strategy would be I'd pour them all out
on the table and I'm going around the edges, yeah,
touching the edges. I'm gonna I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna
pick the twenty, and they're gonna be right next to
each other. I'm saying, this table is four feet by
four feet. I'm taking these twenty right here and hope
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the poisons in the middle. I think that's a good strategy.
But I am with you where you hit twenty and
you're like fifty, g's nice, man, nice. You hit twenty
right a million, you're like, okay, that's a new house,
and then you're like I need a car, and then you're
like beach house would be nice outher ten.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Then you get caught. That's that's that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Didn't you go people had some crazy stories.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I will say, though, A thousand grapes to one is
really good odds.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, it's really really good odds.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like I say forty five to start off, but once
you get to forty five you're like, oh well, I'm saying,
like I had to really put in perspective, like a
thousand to one is like different.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think I'm probably going way more than five.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Thousand and one is zero point zero one percent? Is
that correct?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm thinking, you know, you know, I'm still stuck on
the gorilla, the one hundred men gorilla. So I'm thinking
of one like one grape, but I think it's like
one hundred grades than one bad one.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's what that was gonna go into my head.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A thousand, I'm for sure going at least Yeah, I
think twenty be a good number.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Twenty thirty grapes because get.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
A million bucks.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I'm that's minimum though I'll probably go with minimum
twenty for a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I think it's a fair answer.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, because I'm telling you I had to. I had
to bring it back, like I'm just so wrapped up
on this gorilla thing.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
What's what's and you know, I bring the juice. We
did a lot of debates on the gorilla. I think
it's kind of past news now, but like, what do
you do you think that we have a chance as
society for one hundred. See here's my thing. I I
originally was under the impression it was one hundred standard
size males, like clones of one hundred. Let's say we're
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all five ten one ninety, were fifteen percent body fat,
and we were decent high school athletes. I think you're
getting smoked. But if you could assemble your own hundred,
I think you could beat the grills at Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
If I took one hundred Death Row inmates and said, yo,
you get off. If you got to meet this gorilla,
you're out free clean, it's late clean, it's late well winning.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Mike, My take was, that was my take. I said,
if you listen, do you get a little visual going here?
One gorilla? Okay, he's a big fifteen You got it.
You gotta go, You gotta go. I'm talking like you
gotta run and jump into the mouth. You gotta jump
on the head. He's gonna maul you. Miss of you guys.
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That's why I'm thinking you do get some Death Row inmates. Yeah,
you get some guys who have life to prison and
you have them be sacrifices for everybody else. That's the
only way, only way you are gonna die.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, the only could be the gorilla is if everybody
has to commit, like you can't have ten guys and
then you see will get smoked.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm for sure going, Uh, I'm throwing my body like Mike,
Mike if he's occupied up tight. Yeah, I'm trying to
go as hard as I can, shoulder to the kneecap,
tear an acl chop them down, trying to tear out
gorillas they get.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Cel Can you imagine though, like you're you got your
hundred guys and let's say you're.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Like number twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You're too close to the front, right, you guys rush them,
and then you see someone get smoked, like.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, I think it'd be one thing to get like
a punch. It's you're not gonna see the observed the blow.
You're not gonna that guy's gonna feel it, but you're
not gonna see it. The visual of he ripped someone's
limbs off or or bites into their right just fits
their face. It pops you like a watermelon. That's when
you're gonna be like, okay yo, bro, that's why you
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gotta tear at a cl You gotta go for some
eyes you have to have you got it. You gotta
get a kabeeb typer to try to choke him out.
You have to choke him out.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
To have this commitment.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You have to say I have nothing else to lose
to win this debate. If not, it's not gonna work well.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And then it leads me to the debate of if
you have what's the biggest animal you could take you
one on one. Because UFC fighters rass this, they have
some interesting answers. Some guys went macho, some guys were
like not into it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean like I think for me, I think I
can take a wolf, a cheetah.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Che che don't you up?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I just they're so small and like it depends what
am I doing, Like all we close or is he
like she's hunting me down?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're in a ten foot by ten foot room?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What a cheetah? I think I have good with the cheetah.
I like the thoughts.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Now I'm not gonna see I'm not gonna beat no
damn bear. No, you know, no, none of that's happening.
But I'm thinking a wolf, definitely, a coyote at cheetah,
like you can you you could probably get live with that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I don't know any like don't no one should say
an alligator. I don't know why people like people think that.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think if you're in water, alligator, you have zero
percent chance. But from my understanding, an alligator, if their jaw,
I think you could close their mouth pretty like you could.
You could handle that. You just can't let them roll you.
That's how they kill everything.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
See, that's my thing.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
My thing is like like am I trying to just
stay alive or I'm trying to kill it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
There's two different things.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's the thing to gorilla thing, what is it to
the death? Is it last man saying you're not gonna
kill gorilla? You might be able to get him to
say uncle, No.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's their hands. These hands right here.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You need some sam. I'm not saying, Aaron Darnold, that's
what you need.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, I'm telling you man.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's the it's really the thought process of once you
see the couple of dudes get smoked in from you,
like are you still willing to get in there.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm not, but anybody else good for you?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Speaking of out of pocket athletics such as fighting gorillas,
I asked you to prepare for this question. So there's
a new sport called run It Pop youle on social media.
Essentially it's guys running what like twenty yards away maybe
and just going heads up in the middle.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But you know where.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's in New Zealand right now.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I want to say, yeah, but that started in the
Miami spring Break when we were in college.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Was like for Miami spring.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Break one on one it's girls speaking up there and just.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Just go at it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Usually it was a bigger sized person that little person
and it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Went viral and that's where I started from. And it's
been lit like I would love to go watch that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I looked it up today because I was like, you know,
how can we how can bring the juice become something
part of this? I would love to go to a
sit front row that slap fighting and that was well
it makes me think like how do we go to that?
But from understanding, it's in New Zealand right now, and
that's kind of a push. But yeah, I mean I
think that'll be state side very soon, very soon. But
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it's the thing is Mike the power slap. There's divisions
and stuff like that. You look at who's doing this
run up, run.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It thing, they're all like that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'm saying, I don't think many people would get in
that arena. I don't think there's very like you do
not want to get in the way as me and
you both know, bro a psycho tongue in samoan dude.
Different type of strength, different different, different type of strength.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But I'm saying, like people are standing there and getting
slapped like, no, that was psycho too like to me,
Like I never thought that would be a thing. Like
you're literally holding on You're holding onto something to make
sure I'm I'm still okay, like I'm not gonna get
knocked out, you know, saying like and then what is
it like, oh flipching gets slapped to it?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh you kind of you weaked your eye. Take another way.
We saw a dude get slapped four times in a row.
It was you still eight those you row?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Is crazy?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
What prize money would it take for you to get
into the run it sport? Like, what would you need?
What would you need fifty grand, you'll go heads up
ten grand.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So my thing is, what's one? Am I? Am? I
the runner? Am I the tackler?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I feel like in your position, you'd want to be
probably the runner, right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I wanted to the tackler. You want to be the
tackling man?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Do you? Would you treat it just like football? Breakdown, breakdown, breakdown,
and tackle?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So the thing of the tackling is like there's.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No joking, there's no joke, no not.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I can get both my feet in the ground, or
you're running so like you only have one foot in
the air as you're running at me, I can get
both in the ground and hit you. Like I'm gonna
have more power to get low low and I'm gonna
but I'm gonna be able to be in a power
position and be able to hit you. Or if you're
running at me, you're like you have no power, I
can just push you over?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is the rules on that? Like why would you not
just cut block them? Like why would you not just
come down?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, we're gonna have to like look that up because
I just I mean the video that I watched it
was the head No, I'm like I'm down.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There for the head by you like it was insane.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I've never seen people run ahead of speed like that. It
makes me think, though, too awesome, bring the juice event
would be Oklahoma drills.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I mean it would be hilarious. Which was the same thing. Basically,
you gotta have the you have to get up there.
We're not doing that stand up and run.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You have to get off your back, roll over there
and run at each other. That would be insane.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Me personally sasaying no, I'm saying, like the Oklahoma drills,
that has to be a traditional o G.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oklahoma drooms.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Like I'm talking about me up l on your back,
trying to get the little advantage, maybe love a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
People have different definitions of Oklahoma drills. There's that one
and then there's the one where it's like two blockers,
one runner, two blockers. Yeah, and safety.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm talking about one on one o G. Like you're
on your back, here on my back.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Here we blow the whistle, turn over, go get it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Whoever gets up fastest enough wins.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I love that drill going up because you get up
fastest and they're still like kind of uh, and you.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You just got to commit.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It just teaches you, like how they all stay now, like,
no breakdown, just go hit them.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I want what if I I wonder if I get
that sanctioned in the United States? Me do an Oklahoma
drill competition. Do you think people would pay for that?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Fresno? Absolutely? How many?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, what would you need? Maybe like twenty contestants,
all supply the pads and all that. Lots of waivers,
lots of waivers create like a little just a little
fifteen foot by fifteen foot arena that would be.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That would be insane. I would love it. I would
watch it for sure. I think you are a lot
of people who can come in here and do that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
The NFL Draft just happened. Rookie dinners are coming up.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh yeah, we got we got a rookie shout out
with boy Cody.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What was your rookie dinner experience?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I had COVID.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Oh so I didn't have necessarily a rookie dinner. Everything
was shut down. But like the end of the year,
that took us to Magic City, which is a strip
club in Atlanta. That was like, and I'm not I'm
not a strip club person. I don't know, it's not
my thing, but I had to go.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Thanks for clarifying that.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean, it's not that thing, but I had
to go. I have a good time. It was a
good time. You know. I had really good lemon peper wings.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Lemon pepper wings at a strip club.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh yeah. Off the you go to strip club, you
have to get the wings, really insane, like some people
like go in Atlanta. In Atlanta, if you go to
Magic City.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's small to go to the Magic City in Atlanta
get the limen purple wings.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, but you heard it here first.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, So like my a lot of people's rookie dinner.
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You see, people don't have to fake bills like, oh,
fifty thousand dollars whateverever. We did it to our rookies
last year. So it was fine. You know, we had
thinke them out. We had them like, I mean, they're
still gonna pay damn their eight thousand dollars minimum. But
the bill came like thirty two thousand or something like that,
and they're like freaking out, and you know it's a
fake deal. But it's a good time, you know. But
the thing is about the rookie dinner is it's not
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the food. It's the alcohol.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The drinks alcohol, Like, what's the most expensive drinks you were?
What's the most expensive battle you ever ordered at a
restaurant or a bar?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You think, dude, it's like so for us, like you
don't you know, if you get like a shot, your shot,
if you go to a really expensive place, they're not
trying to get you for eighteen bucks you know, like
go eighteen twenty bucks for shot.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's the wine wine. People get wine in it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Three hundred dollars a bottle, five hundred dollars a bottle,
you know for wine. Right, And it's like when you
do rookie dinner and stuff like that, most of.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The guys don't drink wine. But if you get that.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Og like old dude in the room, he wants this
bottle of wine. That bottle of wine. Like that's what
gets you.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So what's the actual craziest bill you've heard it?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I've seen a rookie pay like fifty two thousand dollars, wow,
in the dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I don't think I could. I mean, I don't think
I could find fifty two thousand dollars. You have to
be obviously the extremely upskilled spot.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, but it was it was just just shot up shot, drink,
go to drink.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know, you probably got a steak.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Their steak dinner was probably one hundred and seventy to
two hundred and ten dollars. But after that it was
just straight outohol. The receipt was like it was just alcohol.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, that happens. I'd be pissed.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But well, along with the NFL draft just happening, the
NBA draft just happened. NBA drafts lottery system, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, it's insane. I wonder if the NFL ever picked down.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So that's what I was getting at. There's a rumors
that were circulating of the NFL implementing a lottery draft system.
For me, it's like why see my take though, I
kind of I like it. And I'm gonna tell you
why you like the lottery draft for the NFL. I
do you think there should be a lottery draft in
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the NFL?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
So the worst team in the NFL obviously gets the
first pick, right, there's not that many people who are
gonna come over there and just turn the program around.
Imagine you take a player who is the number one
pick and you put them on a team who's becoming great.
It could become now. We don't have to see candas
City Philly the year were talking to them my chiefs anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I'm just saying, like I think the NBA gives everybody
the most shot to have different people win. The NFL,
it's the same people over and over and over again
because the team's the same.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, but think about like the Cincinnati Bengals, they were
for such a long period of time. Yeah, they get
Joe Burrow, they get Jamar Chase, they piece together T Higgins,
they get a couple people that are like big influencers.
They're now Like if you're a thirteen year old kid,
you're grown up the last your football life, which is
like age eight to thirteen. The Bengals are good, right,
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And then there's teams like the Patriots in that in
that generation. Who are us for that eight to thirteen
year old time period, Like for us, we're like Patriots
or the Dynasty, Like that's that's that's what we grew
up on.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But you gotta understand, like Cincinnati anging to the playoffs
last year, Ingle plus you're right, you're right there.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Two years in a row the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
They get if they would have gotten uh Abdul Carter
probably been a real nice piece for me.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So they get they get the number one pick. You
take a team like that.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And give them a number one pick, they don't need
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's gonna change everything.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So you think we should go lottery.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I would like to see it. I think I just
want to see what it would look. I think it
would be dope.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Do you think? Okay, so how does that work? I
like it. I'm not against it. I do think though,
it should be another lottery. Re repick the order every
round because basketball's two rounds. Yeah, football seven and you
we just watched the draft one hundred and fifty people here.
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Mac was getting prank called, GM's calling owners calling you.
I was part of your draft day. Stressful time, stressful time.
You got called by the Denver Broncos. Mm hmm they
said we picked you, didn't pick you. Tell all that story?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Ah, dude.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
So before the draft, no, I never thought I was
going in the drafts, gonna be undrafted. Like you know,
you're like, oh, I'm definitely getting draft, definitely drafted. The
day of the draft, that wake up in the morning,
I might going this is this is this is Day three.
Obviously you watched the first I wasn't. I knew I
was going first round, so like, watch it, have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Second round. There was a Day two third, late third.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Round, there was a possibility, so like, oh, I'm gonna
watch it a little bit in depth, okay. And then
Day three rows rounds. You're like, okay, this is my day.
Get the draft party going. You get up there early
in the morning. Never never once think I'm gonna get
a undrafted call. I get called by Cincinnati, and Cincinnati's like, yo,
we have three picks you know today, but if we
don't pick you, like we would love for you to
come undrafted free agent. And I'm like, if you don't
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pick me, like pick me, Yeah, you don't pick me,
I'm not get off the phone, like get off the
phone with them. But then then all that then it
creeps in and they're like, oh, like what if I
don't get picked right? And then so then later on
like mind you here in California West Coast, the draft
Day three starts a nine o'clock in the morning. Yes,
so now it's like eight fifteen, eight twenty, and you
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get I get called by Denver I get called by
Baltimore and it's all the same thing like, hey, you know,
we have these picks, but if we don't take you,
then Jentrifade, we want you to come. So now you
have all these people calling you and you're thinking like, oh,
they're calling to tell me that they're gonna draft me,
and it's like, oh, no, we're going to tell you,
like please pick us if we don't pick you. It's
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just a lot of a lot of that goes into it,
and it's so stressful.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Let me see.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Thankfully I was able to get picked up pretty early
on the day, but just a stressful day.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And now you're in Is this your six?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes, sir, you're sick. You're six.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You've been in the doors now of six teams? Seven technically, yeah, yeah,
yeah seven technically. How stressful is it from a your
family man, from like a family perspective?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, So, I guess that's the thing I talked to
people about a lot, Like for me, football football, Like
I'm going on my twenty three anniversary. You're playing football
consecutively for twenty years, you know what I'm saying, Congratulations,
appreciate that. Like every August September. I'm on I'm playing
for twenty years in a row. So it's like if
one person says, oh, yeah, we don't you know, we
don't like you, or we can't handle you here or whatever,
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I'm like it. There's thirty two teams. We'll go somewhere else.
But then you put the family element into it, right,
you put the Okay, I got to relocate the family.
I gotta worry about that babies, you know. And then
it's not like I don't want to blame them because
obviously they can't help it, but like, your family puts
so much more stress on you then you put on yourself.
And it's like and people think all the time, oh,
I stressed myself up more than.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But you don't.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Like if I got cut from a team, and they're
just like, yo, we really like you, but we have
let's say we want to keep you, but this.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Guy got hurt. We have to address this position.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I know I'm good enough to make that team, but
like they had someone get hurt, you know, and then
you get a call two days later like, hey, we
want you to come over here. Cool, But those two
days when you have to worry about your family, they
don't know what you're gonna do. You move them around
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I got released from Atlanta, I went to Chicago. I
got claimed. I didn't know what that men. I thought
I was on the team for nine days, Like.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Nine days, you moved your family Chicago, Chicago, you're gonna
be there. You're there for nine days and bowl.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
And then in the first first second pre season the
game of the year, I love the team tackles played
like a quarter let team tackles. I'm like, oh, I'm
here with the whole family out there. The next week,
I get like four reps are gonna You're gonna play
a lot in the game. To worry about it cool,
didn't get into like the third quarter. I was like, oh, okay,
I'm definitely getting cut. Actually got cut on my birthday.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Just crazy. You gotta cut on your birthday.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, happy birthday, Mike. Wow. You know, wait a minute,
didn't they wish you happy birthday on Twitter?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
They put me on Happy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, you're on Chicago Bears. They wish their Twitter team
wished you a happy birthday via their social media.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And then like an hour later, I gotta call it.
It makes you bring a charter.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So you bring your charger.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Hey, yeah, you bring your ID, big your charter, damn.
Like it's just it's it's it's cool. It's fun to
laugh about it. That wow, Like what do I do now? Now?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Me as a person when that happened to me, I'm like, dude,
I just I just let the team tackles the leak
before I would have done it again.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You did what you You did what you could.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You did every control.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You're controllable, exactly, Like when you're at peace of that,
when you can decide, you know what, I did everything
I could to make this team and it just didn't
work out whatever way.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You're fine with that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But when you add the family ornamented to it, like
it's like, yo, what are we going to do now?
Because I have to take care of them, right, And
that's kind of like, you know, then they get to
talking to their friends and you know, you're you know,
I'm sitting in the living room.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You hear them talk in the background like, oh yeah,
I just got cut, Like I know, we're.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You know, it's like it's almost like it makes it
so much harder for you because you're like, no, you know,
as a man, you're football players, and we're absoletes.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You want to be an afpaul. You want to be
the guy to take care everybody. And then you're like, oh,
now I'm kind of like what am I going to do? Now?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You can't control it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Exactly, So that I said that would be stressful. But
like I said, after twenty years of playing football.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
The day when it ended in being in the doors.
Now of six seven organizations, what would you say is
the key variable to successful programs? What do they have
in common? Because there's certain facilities that are nicer than others.
Oh yeah, there's food that's nicer than others. There's the
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way they treat you know, maybe family games nicer than others.
But what's like the it factor do you think for
successful teams in the league?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I would say it sounds really cliche, but really it's
like the closest team that's gonna act like college is
gonna win games. The closest team is gonna be buddy, buddy,
we're all hanging out, we all like each other, kumbayaut
You're gonna win games because the NFL is hard.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's hard to win games.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I mean you see you see Kansas City win by
three points one point two points every year, and they're
the you know, can't see their dynasty right now.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know, everyone thinks they're the best team in the like,
so I believe that, But if.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You watch them, they win really ugly, like they don't
don't know people. You don't say they don't they don't
blow people out, like they're barely winning. Then you take
Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys will be every team I've forty
even get the playoffs and get bounced in first round
every year. The people who like to be around each other,
who enjoy going to work every day like this, it's
such a privilege to play this game that people just
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take for granted because we've been doing it for so long.
Like when you get a group of people who are
like I love to come to work every day, you know,
like I love to come to practice every day, it's
so much different than when you're winning and losing, because
when you start losing games, that's like I don't even
like to.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Too loud, Like it's just such a different thing.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
So I think for me, like when I got to DC,
everybody generally liked each other, you know, like it was
like we like yo, we sucked that game, but we
can have those harsh conversations because we liked each other.
If you don't like that and he's criticizing you, it's
not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's not gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So what's your first takeaway from Arizona?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I think in my Arizona, I think I think we
have a young team. Like I'm the oldest linebacker we
have in a round. Really yea for the from the
vet dude, So I'm the oldest guy. We got twenty
seven now, that old, but as all we have and
it's just like young team. But the guys, like I
really feel like they want to connect. And I don't
know what I've heard back, like it wasn't like that before.
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I've heard from people like you know, they really get
along too well. But I think this year or even
our coaches staff are taking a really good job of
like you know, we did an event. Every position group
had to to the DC where we're going to go.
We just went to main event when bowling, waser tagging,
you know, arcade games like that. Yeah, Like it was.
It was dope and it was a good experience because
we all got to hang out with each other.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So I think that's gonna be the biggest difference. I mean,
everybody's good in the league. You have to like each other.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, yeah. Have you played international? I have, So they
want to expand these international games. You think that's I
know as a player that it's hard.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's one thing I've realized about people is people are
gonna complain regardless. And you know this from college. Of course,
it doesn't matter what it is. Some was gonna have
a run with it. For me personally, if I was
like you would you and Brittany went on your honeymoon, right,
you guys went to Italy Italy? Okay, I like, I
like Italy, I like all that stuff. But like me, personally,
I'm a beach guy. So if I got one trip
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a year, I'm not going to Italy. I'm gonna go
to Bahamas. I'm gonna go to you know, Fiji, like
that type of stuff. So to be able to play football,
like I went to London, I would never go to
London if I you know, because there's so many other
places I'd rather go to. So being able to play
football and you get to like you're telling them you're
gonna fly me out to a place that I probably
would never go to it just to play a football game.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right, I get to explore the culture for a couple
of days.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Like for me it's lit yeah, But for other people
it's like, oh, I had to travel as far and
I'm tired and not to go play a football game.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And it's like I'm like, dude, like you're.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Getting paid exactly I thought. Even when we played Hawaii
in college, Yeah, I've never been to Hawaii outside of
playing a football game there and to experience. I probably
will never. I mean I hope I go soon, but
like that, as a twenty year old, I would have
never gone to Hawaii unless we went to play football there.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Think about it, like Hawaii Hawaii is like six hours.
We can go to Mexico in an hour and forty
five minutes. You know what I'm saying, Like I know
Cabo tou loom, Like it's right here. I'm not going
six hours on a flight to go to Hawaii if
I just go CA.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You're saying, from a player's experience, there are going to
be certain people that are annoyed off the international game.
But you gotta flip that switch and say glass half full.
I get to go. I get I go, like no,
I mean Mac kids good, they get to go. They
opened in Brazil against the Chargers. It's like, I'm like, dude,
we you never would have gone to Brazil if if,
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if you weren't in that situation.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Now he's going to be in that five So he
might not appreciate it as much as the rest of us.
But I can think about but you don't think of
everybody else. Oh, we want to go see Mac. Oh
he's playing in Brazil. I'm gonna go buy my ticket.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You like it's it's one of those handoffs, like people
can come watch you play.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's gonna be cool.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I think though the talks of a Super Bowl eventually
being outside the United States, I don't like that. I
don't like that. We need to keep that here.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't want to. It's just it's like it's
it's it's it's supposed to be here, you know. I
don't like that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's it's a national holiday in the United States. What
do you think? And you know they're they're throwing out
there's a lot of europe countries. They're starting to get
down in South America. How how how how wild can
they get with this NFL location? Do you think they'll
play a game and like Antarctica?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, but I think we for sure hit the Middle
East soon.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Dubai Saudi Arabia. So I'm talking about there's such money there,
like so much go buy what Dubai has done in golf,
boxing things like that.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I think they're bringing They're gonna put it on an
island or something.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yea, make it nice, but it's gonna be because if
you look, it's all about where the money is, of course,
and that is like where all the money is. So
like I know for a fact it's soon just going
to be there. I just hope I played long enough
to get to one of these. Yeah, Like I said,
Lenin was cool, but we were so we played the
Colts and the Colts are playing the Falcons. But there
was a chance that we were going to go to
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Germany and play them before the schedule release came out.
So I was like, I was hoping that was there
because like I said, I would never go to Germany,
Like I'm not gonna let me go to Berlin, Germany.
I'm not doing that now, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
On vacation. So if I got to do it for football,
that'd be dope.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Of course you're a big w NBA guy. I am huge.
Can you explain why?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Uh So it really started here, Like it started in
twenty seventeen when.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I first came in Present State.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I can first state during our summer workouts when I
didn't know anybody on the team because I just got
here from from transferringing. The only thing on TV was
the college Women's World shirt, like World's serious for softball. Yeah,
so I would like watch it every day, like I
just got really into it. And then honesotly meeting Haley
Kaylee's yeah, great friend, my best friend here, Like so
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just watching her play and doing that just kind of
took sports. She's dark, but that took off like women's
sports for me. And then it's just like I just
like to watch the game, like I love sports. If
like Caim will tell you, like if you ever just
come to my house, like I'll just have YouTube.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm just rolling, you know, Like I love sports.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
So and I think it's it's really cool to watch
women's sports because yeah, they can't dunk, but they have
to figure out a way to make the game creative,
like Kaitlyn Clark shooting is from half court?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Like that is insane.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Has Caitlyn Clark? Is she the lebron James matt figure
right now of the w NBA, Like, yeah, it's brought
so much popularity.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You know what I'm saying, It's what it is. Like
Kaitlyn Clark, she is, but she's exciting the way and
she's good.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's not like, yeah, she's not just.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Good for girls. She's she's good.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
She's good.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Like if Kaitlyn Clark goes and does a three point contest,
she's probably going to be right up there at the time,
you know what I'm saying, Like she's she's good. So
it's really exciting to watch. And I just think, like,
to me, it doesn't matter if it's men or women's sports.
I just like to watch sports. And I think some
of the stuff that these girls do is insane.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
It makes me think of a conversation we had in
Newport and I don't think we ever published, but do
you think that because there's a lot of guys who
claim their hoopers, a lot of guys who claim.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Their hoopers, everybody thinks they can hoopro.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And I know, Caitlyn Clarks brought this up with like,
why am I blanking on Cooper de gene yes one
on one and whatnot? Could and let's think let's just
talk college here, because I think college is a little
more fair playing field. I don't know how it would
work the NBA, I mean WNBA to NFL, Like that's
just too much of a gap. Probably, But do you
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think that the best college do you think that the
best players on a college football team that claim to
be Hoopers would beat that their same college's women's basketball
team in a five, five on five game.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
So this is why it's it's tough, but I would
say they would. And I'm gonna tell you why I
would say they would, just because yeah, it just you
know what I'm saying, Like they fast break, well, probably
gonna be up to the court.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It would be.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It would It would not be if we had to
stop and set up defense every time, wouldn't wouldn't win.
But if we could just play fast breaks, throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
It'd be.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It'd be.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It'd be exactly if if we could play street ball
five on five.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, the wreck.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think yes, the football team would win just all
this because we could we should never miss a layup
or two. That's my thought part. We can get to
every exactly every time at the court. But with them,
if we had to set up offense and defense, I
don't think we could stop them from scoring. They literally,
like if you watch the percentage of women like when
they actually shoot, the ones who could really shoot, it's insane,
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Like it's way harder than them because obviously the ball small,
the factors go into it, but like they're really good
at shooting. And like us when we're not playing amicla defense,
you know, we're not doing the slides.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
We're just we're just stay. We're standing in.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Front of you and making you shoot the ball. And
they could really shoot. So if we had to play
against Kaitlyn Clark, it would be a problem. It would
be a problem.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I would be a fun one because they were so
dominating in that Caitlyn Clark us exactly, So like a
prime Kaitlyn Clark Iowa versus the best Iowa ball players
on their football team, it'd be competitive.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
It would be it would be cod a point to
a certain.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Extent, Jeans highlight tape coming out of him and he'd
slam it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
It's something you would you would have to switch it
up to Okay, we can't run the fast break, set
it up then play.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Hey, I got a Caitlyn Clark jersey.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know that. You know that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, but it's tough because, like I said, you know,
you know, I'm a really big women's sports person, so
I really support them a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's just I just don't for you that they could win.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That's fair that they'll admit that probably.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, fast breaks is not happening.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Other sports golf, and it made me think today. You know,
we both have sons, younger sons. Obviously football is a
big element in our life, but we like the golf
were competitive, and I think you look around other sports
now a lot of guys are golfing on their free time,
golfing on the offseason. It's huge right now, it's booming.
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I do think golf one thing that's different than football, baseball, basketball.
A golf ball is the same size, whether you're hitting
it as a three year old, ten year old, fifteen
year old, thirty five year old, one hundred year old,
it's the same size. Obviously, you adjust your clubs, you
could level up things of that nature. Some courses are
harder than others. But I feel like if you wanted
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to fine tune your game and say, like go like
Tiger Wood style, we're from birth, or Rory macworrer, who's
freaking there's videos at him chipping in the washer machines
when he's six years old and he's still joined the
same drills at age forty. Whatever the hell he is? Right,
have you considered it saying like we're going to go
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all in on golf, because if you look at the
money that's happening in golf, is there, Mike?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Is there? Mike like Cayden has his clubs. I WoT
him his own.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He has clubs. He's swinging, Yeah, he has. He has clubs.
He likes to he likes to knocket in there. But
it's just it's tough because like my son, he bounced
off the walls, you know, like he's not like I
can't be like, hey, let's do this, let's lock in here.
He's gonna he might he might hit the golf ball
three times and then go chase the butterfly or something
like that. You know, he's out, he's doing his thing.
But I do think that when it comes to we
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had him in soccer.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, never do that again. That's that's it. That was
all right. He tried it, he tried, he tried. I mean, no, man,
he came to me a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's like Daddy, I'm too hot, like I do water,
like you know, it's just it's just different. So but
like for him, I don't know what he wants to do,
you know, as far as like I would love for
him to do golf because that would be like cool.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, be able to Well you look at what these
guys are making in a year. It's like you go
win a tournament, well million payout in one weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
But you just never I mean you just never know,
especially with kids like they could one day do nothing
next to you don't pick up golf and just love
it the rest of your life. So you're not gonna
force it on him. No, I told you.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I told you.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
We put him in soccer, and I feel like I
kind of pushed him to get out there and go
play some sports, and it's just like.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
God, it was awful.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Football comes soon enough.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I mean, he just kept tackling everybody.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So it's like you think he'll go tight end or
you gonna go defense. I would love for him personally
to play tight end, this new age tight end. I agree,
but he's like he's big, dude. He might have his
hand in dirt like he's he's he's big. He's a
big kid.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
That's not the worst thing, though. Look at what look
at what dns are getting paid these days.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You like he And then I have a nephew, shout
at him, Aaron, he is senior year, big kid, I
mean sixth to gotta be pushing too, eighty like big
starting to get some roll with some offers rolling in,
so hopefully we start get some stuff coming. But I
mean he's old line d line, so yeah, like hey,
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that could be the move to Yeah,
All right, all right, all right, we were back in
the home studio, got a og. Co host Michael Walker. Mike,
welcome back, man, welcome back. It's just it's so good
to have you. It's so refreshing to be back in studio.
I feel like the last like ten times we've seen
each other too. It's like brand and advance. Really, just
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chop it up. Can just have a lazy day, like, oh,
hey see your like Just give me a little bottle
of Hennessy. Let me just deconpress for a minute, turn
the air conditioning on, let me get me you know
what I mean? For sure, you look great, Mike, you
look great.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I appreciate you it man, you look you look good.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So to open up, I was I was obviously always
looking at content, and something crossed my page today that
I want to know your answer on. It's an internet debate.
If you have a thousand grapes in a bowl, Okay,
each grape you eat, you get fifty thousand dollars. There's
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one grape out of the thousand, though, that when you
eat it, you instantly die.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But you don't know what grape that is.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You don't know what grape it is. There's a thousand
grapes in a bowl. Each one you eat fifty g's,
but one of them in there instantly kills you. Can
I how many grapes.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Are you gonna eat? Can I stop? Whenever? You could?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You could eat one, you could eat ten, you could
eat you could go for nine hundred and ninety nine.
What's you're like? Okay, probably trying to do something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think me personally, I'm not a big gambler. Ever,
I don't think it's this is gambling, your gambling your life.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You're definitely gambling.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You're eating one.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
No, no, no, I'm gonna instantly die.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think my goal going into it is probably four,
four or five grapes. Four or five grapes grapes my
goal going into it, and then after I get to
four or five, I'm still alive.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Then you're gonna make a business decision.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Like, well, okay, four grapes, that's two d that's two
hundred grand.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Like see, my answer would be I go twenty grapes. See,
I think twenty grapes is a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, So let me ask you this now, are you
going twenty grapes straight?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
In this area? Are you spreading around a little bit?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You're gonna move around like, Okay, I'm going this side,
I'm gonna go back there.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I used to teaching what are you just.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Your visual right? There was bowl it's a thousand to
be like a.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Like, so you're hitting like this half and then for
like maybe five on this half, the five on that half.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So my strategy would be I'd pour them all out
on the table and I'm going around the edges, yeah,
touching the edges. I'm gonna I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna
pick the twenty, and they're gonna be right next to
each other. I'm saying, this table is four feet by
four feet. I'm taking these twenty right here and hope
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the poisons in the middle. I think that's a good strategy.
But I am with you where you hit twenty and
you're like fifty, g's nice, man, nice. You hit twenty
right a million, you're like, okay, that's a new house,
and then you're like I need a car, and then you're
like beach house would be nice outher ten.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Then you get caught. That's that's that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Didn't you go people had some crazy stories.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I will say, though, A thousand grapes to one is
really good odds.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, it's really really good odds.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like I say forty five to start off, but once
you get to forty five you're like, oh well, I'm saying,
like I had to really put in perspective, like a
thousand to one is like different.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think I'm probably going way more than five.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Thousand and one is zero point zero one percent? Is
that correct?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm thinking, you know, you know, I'm still stuck on
the gorilla, the one hundred men gorilla. So I'm thinking
of one like one grape, but I think it's like
one hundred grades than one bad one.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's what that was gonna go into my head.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A thousand, I'm for sure going at least Yeah, I
think twenty be a good number.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Twenty thirty grapes because get.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
A million bucks.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I'm that's minimum though I'll probably go with minimum
twenty for a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I think it's a fair answer.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, because I'm telling you I had to. I had
to bring it back, like I'm just so wrapped up
on this gorilla thing.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
What's what's and you know, I bring the juice. We
did a lot of debates on the gorilla. I think
it's kind of past news now, but like, what do
you do you think that we have a chance as
society for one hundred. See here's my thing. I I
originally was under the impression it was one hundred standard
size males, like clones of one hundred. Let's say we're
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all five ten one ninety, were fifteen percent body fat,
and we were decent high school athletes. I think you're
getting smoked. But if you could assemble your own hundred,
I think you could beat the grills at Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
If I took one hundred Death Row inmates and said, yo,
you get off. If you got to meet this gorilla,
you're out free clean, it's late clean, it's late well winning.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Mike, My take was, that was my take. I said,
if you listen, do you get a little visual going here?
One gorilla? Okay, he's a big fifteen You got it.
You gotta go, You gotta go. I'm talking like you
gotta run and jump into the mouth. You gotta jump
on the head. He's gonna maul you. Miss of you guys.
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That's why I'm thinking you do get some Death Row inmates. Yeah,
you get some guys who have life to prison and
you have them be sacrifices for everybody else. That's the
only way, only way you are gonna die.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, the only could be the gorilla is if everybody
has to commit, like you can't have ten guys and
then you see will get smoked.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm for sure going, Uh, I'm throwing my body like Mike,
Mike if he's occupied up tight. Yeah, I'm trying to
go as hard as I can, shoulder to the kneecap,
tear an acl chop them down, trying to tear out
gorillas they get.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Cel Can you imagine though, like you're you got your
hundred guys and let's say you're.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Like number twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You're too close to the front, right, you guys rush them,
and then you see someone get smoked, like.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, I think it'd be one thing to get like
a punch. It's you're not gonna see the observed the blow.
You're not gonna that guy's gonna feel it, but you're
not gonna see it. The visual of he ripped someone's
limbs off or or bites into their right just fits
their face. It pops you like a watermelon. That's when
you're gonna be like, okay yo, bro, that's why you
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gotta tear at a cl You gotta go for some
eyes you have to have you got it. You gotta
get a kabeeb typer to try to choke him out.
You have to choke him out.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
To have this commitment.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You have to say I have nothing else to lose
to win this debate. If not, it's not gonna work well.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And then it leads me to the debate of if
you have what's the biggest animal you could take you
one on one. Because UFC fighters rass this, they have
some interesting answers. Some guys went macho, some guys were
like not into it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean like I think for me, I think I
can take a wolf, a cheetah.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Che che don't you up?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I just they're so small and like it depends what
am I doing, Like all we close or is he
like she's hunting me down?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're in a ten foot by ten foot room?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What a cheetah? I think I have good with the cheetah.
I like the thoughts.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Now I'm not gonna see I'm not gonna beat no
damn bear. No, you know, no, none of that's happening.
But I'm thinking a wolf, definitely, a coyote at cheetah,
like you can you you could probably get live with that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I don't know any like don't no one should say
an alligator. I don't know why people like people think that.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think if you're in water, alligator, you have zero
percent chance. But from my understanding, an alligator, if their jaw,
I think you could close their mouth pretty like you could.
You could handle that. You just can't let them roll you.
That's how they kill everything.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
See, that's my thing.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
My thing is like like am I trying to just
stay alive or I'm trying to kill it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
There's two different things.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's the thing to gorilla thing, what is it to
the death? Is it last man saying you're not gonna
kill gorilla? You might be able to get him to
say uncle, No.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's their hands. These hands right here.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You need some sam. I'm not saying, Aaron Darnold, that's
what you need.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, I'm telling you man.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's the it's really the thought process of once you
see the couple of dudes get smoked in from you,
like are you still willing to get in there.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm not, but anybody else good for you?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Speaking of out of pocket athletics such as fighting gorillas,
I asked you to prepare for this question. So there's
a new sport called run It Pop youle on social media.
Essentially it's guys running what like twenty yards away maybe
and just going heads up in the middle.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But you know where.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's in New Zealand right now.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I want to say, yeah, but that started in the
Miami spring Break when we were in college.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Was like for Miami spring.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Break one on one it's girls speaking up there and just.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Just go at it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Usually it was a bigger sized person that little person
and it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Went viral and that's where I started from. And it's
been lit like I would love to go watch that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I looked it up today because I was like, you know,
how can we how can bring the juice become something
part of this? I would love to go to a
sit front row that slap fighting and that was well
it makes me think like how do we go to that?
But from understanding, it's in New Zealand right now, and
that's kind of a push. But yeah, I mean I
think that'll be state side very soon, very soon. But
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it's the thing is Mike the power slap. There's divisions
and stuff like that. You look at who's doing this
run up, run.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It thing, they're all like that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'm saying, I don't think many people would get in
that arena. I don't think there's very like you do
not want to get in the way as me and
you both know, bro a psycho tongue in samoan dude.
Different type of strength, different different, different type of strength.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But I'm saying, like people are standing there and getting
slapped like, no, that was psycho too like to me,
Like I never thought that would be a thing. Like
you're literally holding on You're holding onto something to make
sure I'm I'm still okay, like I'm not gonna get
knocked out, you know, saying like and then what is
it like, oh flipching gets slapped to it?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh you kind of you weaked your eye. Take another way.
We saw a dude get slapped four times in a row.
It was you still eight those you row?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Is crazy?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
What prize money would it take for you to get
into the run it sport? Like, what would you need?
What would you need fifty grand, you'll go heads up
ten grand.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So my thing is, what's one? Am I? Am? I
the runner? Am I the tackler?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I feel like in your position, you'd want to be
probably the runner, right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I wanted to the tackler. You want to be the
tackling man?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Do you? Would you treat it just like football? Breakdown, breakdown, breakdown,
and tackle?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So the thing of the tackling is like there's.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No joking, there's no joke, no not.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I can get both my feet in the ground, or
you're running so like you only have one foot in
the air as you're running at me, I can get
both in the ground and hit you. Like I'm gonna
have more power to get low low and I'm gonna
but I'm gonna be able to be in a power
position and be able to hit you. Or if you're
running at me, you're like you have no power, I
can just push you over?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is the rules on that? Like why would you not
just cut block them? Like why would you not just
come down?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, we're gonna have to like look that up because
I just I mean the video that I watched it
was the head No, I'm like I'm down.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There for the head by you like it was insane.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I've never seen people run ahead of speed like that. It
makes me think, though, too awesome, bring the juice event
would be Oklahoma drills.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I mean it would be hilarious. Which was the same thing. Basically,
you gotta have the you have to get up there.
We're not doing that stand up and run.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You have to get off your back, roll over there
and run at each other. That would be insane.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Me personally sasaying no, I'm saying, like the Oklahoma drills,
that has to be a traditional o G.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oklahoma drooms.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Like I'm talking about me up l on your back,
trying to get the little advantage, maybe love a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
People have different definitions of Oklahoma drills. There's that one
and then there's the one where it's like two blockers,
one runner, two blockers. Yeah, and safety.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm talking about one on one o G. Like you're
on your back, here on my back.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Here we blow the whistle, turn over, go get it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Whoever gets up fastest enough wins.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I love that drill going up because you get up
fastest and they're still like kind of uh, and you.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You just got to commit.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It just teaches you, like how they all stay now, like,
no breakdown, just go hit them.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I want what if I I wonder if I get
that sanctioned in the United States? Me do an Oklahoma
drill competition. Do you think people would pay for that?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Fresno? Absolutely? How many?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, what would you need? Maybe like twenty contestants,
all supply the pads and all that. Lots of waivers,
lots of waivers create like a little just a little
fifteen foot by fifteen foot arena that would be.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That would be insane. I would love it. I would
watch it for sure. I think you are a lot
of people who can come in here and do that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
The NFL Draft just happened. Rookie dinners are coming up.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh yeah, we got we got a rookie shout out
with boy Cody.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What was your rookie dinner experience?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I had COVID.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Oh so I didn't have necessarily a rookie dinner. Everything
was shut down. But like the end of the year,
that took us to Magic City, which is a strip
club in Atlanta. That was like, and I'm not I'm
not a strip club person. I don't know, it's not
my thing, but I had to go.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Thanks for clarifying that.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean, it's not that thing, but I had
to go. I have a good time. It was a
good time. You know. I had really good lemon peper wings.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Lemon pepper wings at a strip club.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh yeah. Off the you go to strip club, you
have to get the wings, really insane, like some people
like go in Atlanta. In Atlanta, if you go to
Magic City.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's small to go to the Magic City in Atlanta
get the limen purple wings.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, but you heard it here first.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, So like my a lot of people's rookie dinner.
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You see, people don't have to fake bills like, oh,
fifty thousand dollars whateverever. We did it to our rookies
last year. So it was fine. You know, we had
thinke them out. We had them like, I mean, they're
still gonna pay damn their eight thousand dollars minimum. But
the bill came like thirty two thousand or something like that,
and they're like freaking out, and you know it's a
fake deal. But it's a good time, you know. But
the thing is about the rookie dinner is it's not
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the food. It's the alcohol.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The drinks alcohol, Like, what's the most expensive drinks you were?
What's the most expensive battle you ever ordered at a
restaurant or a bar?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You think, dude, it's like so for us, like you
don't you know, if you get like a shot, your shot,
if you go to a really expensive place, they're not
trying to get you for eighteen bucks you know, like
go eighteen twenty bucks for shot.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's the wine wine. People get wine in it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Three hundred dollars a bottle, five hundred dollars a bottle,
you know for wine. Right, And it's like when you
do rookie dinner and stuff like that, most of.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The guys don't drink wine. But if you get that.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Og like old dude in the room, he wants this
bottle of wine. That bottle of wine. Like that's what
gets you.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So what's the actual craziest bill you've heard it?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I've seen a rookie pay like fifty two thousand dollars, wow,
in the dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I don't think I could. I mean, I don't think
I could find fifty two thousand dollars. You have to
be obviously the extremely upskilled spot.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, but it was it was just just shot up shot, drink,
go to drink.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know, you probably got a steak.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Their steak dinner was probably one hundred and seventy to
two hundred and ten dollars. But after that it was
just straight outohol. The receipt was like it was just alcohol.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, that happens. I'd be pissed.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But well, along with the NFL draft just happening, the
NBA draft just happened. NBA drafts lottery system, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, it's insane. I wonder if the NFL ever picked down.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So that's what I was getting at. There's a rumors
that were circulating of the NFL implementing a lottery draft system.
For me, it's like why see my take though, I
kind of I like it. And I'm gonna tell you
why you like the lottery draft for the NFL. I
do you think there should be a lottery draft in
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the NFL?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
So the worst team in the NFL obviously gets the
first pick, right, there's not that many people who are
gonna come over there and just turn the program around.
Imagine you take a player who is the number one
pick and you put them on a team who's becoming great.
It could become now. We don't have to see candas
City Philly the year were talking to them my chiefs anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I'm just saying, like I think the NBA gives everybody
the most shot to have different people win. The NFL,
it's the same people over and over and over again
because the team's the same.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, but think about like the Cincinnati Bengals, they were
for such a long period of time. Yeah, they get
Joe Burrow, they get Jamar Chase, they piece together T Higgins,
they get a couple people that are like big influencers.
They're now Like if you're a thirteen year old kid,
you're grown up the last your football life, which is
like age eight to thirteen. The Bengals are good, right,
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And then there's teams like the Patriots in that in
that generation. Who are us for that eight to thirteen
year old time period, Like for us, we're like Patriots
or the Dynasty, Like that's that's that's what we grew
up on.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But you gotta understand, like Cincinnati anging to the playoffs
last year, Ingle plus you're right, you're right there.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Two years in a row the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
They get if they would have gotten uh Abdul Carter
probably been a real nice piece for me.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So they get they get the number one pick. You
take a team like that.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And give them a number one pick, they don't need
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's gonna change everything.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So you think we should go lottery.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I would like to see it. I think I just
want to see what it would look. I think it
would be dope.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Do you think? Okay, so how does that work? I
like it. I'm not against it. I do think though,
it should be another lottery. Re repick the order every
round because basketball's two rounds. Yeah, football seven and you
we just watched the draft one hundred and fifty people here.
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Mac was getting prank called, GM's calling owners calling you.
I was part of your draft day. Stressful time, stressful time.
You got called by the Denver Broncos. Mm hmm they
said we picked you, didn't pick you. Tell all that story?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Ah, dude.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
So before the draft, no, I never thought I was
going in the drafts, gonna be undrafted. Like you know,
you're like, oh, I'm definitely getting draft, definitely drafted. The
day of the draft, that wake up in the morning,
I might going this is this is this is Day three.
Obviously you watched the first I wasn't. I knew I
was going first round, so like, watch it, have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Second round. There was a Day two third, late third.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Round, there was a possibility, so like, oh, I'm gonna
watch it a little bit in depth, okay. And then
Day three rows rounds. You're like, okay, this is my day.
Get the draft party going. You get up there early
in the morning. Never never once think I'm gonna get
a undrafted call. I get called by Cincinnati, and Cincinnati's like, yo,
we have three picks you know today, but if we
don't pick you, like we would love for you to
come undrafted free agent. And I'm like, if you don't
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pick me, like pick me, Yeah, you don't pick me,
I'm not get off the phone, like get off the
phone with them. But then then all that then it
creeps in and they're like, oh, like what if I
don't get picked right? And then so then later on
like mind you here in California West Coast, the draft
Day three starts a nine o'clock in the morning. Yes,
so now it's like eight fifteen, eight twenty, and you
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get I get called by Denver I get called by
Baltimore and it's all the same thing like, hey, you know,
we have these picks, but if we don't take you,
then Jentrifade, we want you to come. So now you
have all these people calling you and you're thinking like, oh,
they're calling to tell me that they're gonna draft me,
and it's like, oh, no, we're going to tell you,
like please pick us if we don't pick you. It's
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just a lot of a lot of that goes into it,
and it's so stressful.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Let me see.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Thankfully I was able to get picked up pretty early
on the day, but just a stressful day.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And now you're in Is this your six?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes, sir, you're sick. You're six.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You've been in the doors now of six teams? Seven technically, yeah, yeah,
yeah seven technically. How stressful is it from a your
family man, from like a family perspective?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, So, I guess that's the thing I talked to
people about a lot, Like for me, football football, Like
I'm going on my twenty three anniversary. You're playing football
consecutively for twenty years, you know what I'm saying, Congratulations,
appreciate that. Like every August September. I'm on I'm playing
for twenty years in a row. So it's like if
one person says, oh, yeah, we don't you know, we
don't like you, or we can't handle you here or whatever,
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I'm like it. There's thirty two teams. We'll go somewhere else.
But then you put the family element into it, right,
you put the Okay, I got to relocate the family.
I gotta worry about that babies, you know. And then
it's not like I don't want to blame them because
obviously they can't help it, but like, your family puts
so much more stress on you then you put on yourself.
And it's like and people think all the time, oh,
I stressed myself up more than.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But you don't.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Like if I got cut from a team, and they're
just like, yo, we really like you, but we have
let's say we want to keep you, but this.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Guy got hurt. We have to address this position.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I know I'm good enough to make that team, but
like they had someone get hurt, you know, and then
you get a call two days later like, hey, we
want you to come over here. Cool, But those two
days when you have to worry about your family, they
don't know what you're gonna do. You move them around
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I got released from Atlanta, I went to Chicago. I
got claimed. I didn't know what that men. I thought
I was on the team for nine days, Like.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Nine days, you moved your family Chicago, Chicago, you're gonna
be there. You're there for nine days and bowl.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
And then in the first first second pre season the
game of the year, I love the team tackles played
like a quarter let team tackles. I'm like, oh, I'm
here with the whole family out there. The next week,
I get like four reps are gonna You're gonna play
a lot in the game. To worry about it cool,
didn't get into like the third quarter. I was like, oh, okay,
I'm definitely getting cut. Actually got cut on my birthday.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Just crazy. You gotta cut on your birthday.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, happy birthday, Mike. Wow. You know, wait a minute,
didn't they wish you happy birthday on Twitter?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
They put me on Happy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, you're on Chicago Bears. They wish their Twitter team
wished you a happy birthday via their social media.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And then like an hour later, I gotta call it.
It makes you bring a charter.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So you bring your charger.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Hey, yeah, you bring your ID, big your charter, damn.
Like it's just it's it's it's cool. It's fun to
laugh about it. That wow, Like what do I do now? Now?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Me as a person when that happened to me, I'm like, dude,
I just I just let the team tackles the leak
before I would have done it again.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You did what you You did what you could.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You did every control.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You're controllable, exactly, Like when you're at peace of that,
when you can decide, you know what, I did everything
I could to make this team and it just didn't
work out whatever way.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You're fine with that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But when you add the family ornamented to it, like
it's like, yo, what are we going to do now?
Because I have to take care of them, right, And
that's kind of like, you know, then they get to
talking to their friends and you know, you're you know,
I'm sitting in the living room.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You hear them talk in the background like, oh yeah,
I just got cut, Like I know, we're.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You know, it's like it's almost like it makes it
so much harder for you because you're like, no, you know,
as a man, you're football players, and we're absoletes.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You want to be an afpaul. You want to be
the guy to take care everybody. And then you're like, oh,
now I'm kind of like what am I going to do? Now?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You can't control it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Exactly, So that I said that would be stressful. But
like I said, after twenty years of playing football.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
The day when it ended in being in the doors.
Now of six seven organizations, what would you say is
the key variable to successful programs? What do they have
in common? Because there's certain facilities that are nicer than others.
Oh yeah, there's food that's nicer than others. There's the
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way they treat you know, maybe family games nicer than others.
But what's like the it factor do you think for
successful teams in the league?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I would say it sounds really cliche, but really it's
like the closest team that's gonna act like college is
gonna win games. The closest team is gonna be buddy, buddy,
we're all hanging out, we all like each other, kumbayaut
You're gonna win games because the NFL is hard.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's hard to win games.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I mean you see you see Kansas City win by
three points one point two points every year, and they're
the you know, can't see their dynasty right now.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know, everyone thinks they're the best team in the like,
so I believe that, But if.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You watch them, they win really ugly, like they don't
don't know people. You don't say they don't they don't
blow people out, like they're barely winning. Then you take
Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys will be every team I've forty
even get the playoffs and get bounced in first round
every year. The people who like to be around each other,
who enjoy going to work every day like this, it's
such a privilege to play this game that people just
(24:16):
take for granted because we've been doing it for so long.
Like when you get a group of people who are
like I love to come to work every day, you know,
like I love to come to practice every day, it's
so much different than when you're winning and losing, because
when you start losing games, that's like I don't even
like to.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Too loud, Like it's just such a different thing.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
So I think for me, like when I got to DC,
everybody generally liked each other, you know, like it was
like we like yo, we sucked that game, but we
can have those harsh conversations because we liked each other.
If you don't like that and he's criticizing you, it's
not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's not gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So what's your first takeaway from Arizona?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I think in my Arizona, I think I think we
have a young team. Like I'm the oldest linebacker we
have in a round. Really yea for the from the
vet dude, So I'm the oldest guy. We got twenty
seven now, that old, but as all we have and
it's just like young team. But the guys, like I
really feel like they want to connect. And I don't
know what I've heard back, like it wasn't like that before.
(25:15):
I've heard from people like you know, they really get
along too well. But I think this year or even
our coaches staff are taking a really good job of
like you know, we did an event. Every position group
had to to the DC where we're going to go.
We just went to main event when bowling, waser tagging,
you know, arcade games like that. Yeah, Like it was.
It was dope and it was a good experience because
we all got to hang out with each other.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So I think that's gonna be the biggest difference. I mean,
everybody's good in the league. You have to like each other.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, yeah. Have you played international? I have, So they
want to expand these international games. You think that's I
know as a player that it's hard.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's one thing I've realized about people is people are
gonna complain regardless. And you know this from college. Of course,
it doesn't matter what it is. Some was gonna have
a run with it. For me personally, if I was
like you would you and Brittany went on your honeymoon, right,
you guys went to Italy Italy? Okay, I like, I
like Italy, I like all that stuff. But like me, personally,
I'm a beach guy. So if I got one trip
(26:14):
a year, I'm not going to Italy. I'm gonna go
to Bahamas. I'm gonna go to you know, Fiji, like
that type of stuff. So to be able to play football,
like I went to London, I would never go to
London if I you know, because there's so many other
places I'd rather go to. So being able to play
football and you get to like you're telling them you're
gonna fly me out to a place that I probably
would never go to it just to play a football game.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right, I get to explore the culture for a couple
of days.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Like for me it's lit yeah, But for other people
it's like, oh, I had to travel as far and
I'm tired and not to go play a football game.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And it's like I'm like, dude, like you're.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Getting paid exactly I thought. Even when we played Hawaii
in college, Yeah, I've never been to Hawaii outside of
playing a football game there and to experience. I probably
will never. I mean I hope I go soon, but
like that, as a twenty year old, I would have
never gone to Hawaii unless we went to play football there.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Think about it, like Hawaii Hawaii is like six hours.
We can go to Mexico in an hour and forty
five minutes. You know what I'm saying, Like I know
Cabo tou loom, Like it's right here. I'm not going
six hours on a flight to go to Hawaii if
I just go CA.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You're saying, from a player's experience, there are going to
be certain people that are annoyed off the international game.
But you gotta flip that switch and say glass half full.
I get to go. I get I go, like no,
I mean Mac kids good, they get to go. They
opened in Brazil against the Chargers. It's like, I'm like, dude,
we you never would have gone to Brazil if if,
(27:41):
if you weren't in that situation.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Now he's going to be in that five So he
might not appreciate it as much as the rest of us.
But I can think about but you don't think of
everybody else. Oh, we want to go see Mac. Oh
he's playing in Brazil. I'm gonna go buy my ticket.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You like it's it's one of those handoffs, like people
can come watch you play.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's gonna be cool.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I think though the talks of a Super Bowl eventually
being outside the United States, I don't like that. I
don't like that. We need to keep that here.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't want to. It's just it's like it's
it's it's it's supposed to be here, you know. I
don't like that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's it's a national holiday in the United States. What
do you think? And you know they're they're throwing out
there's a lot of europe countries. They're starting to get
down in South America. How how how how wild can
they get with this NFL location? Do you think they'll
play a game and like Antarctica?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, but I think we for sure hit the Middle
East soon.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Dubai Saudi Arabia. So I'm talking about there's such money there,
like so much go buy what Dubai has done in golf,
boxing things like that.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I think they're bringing They're gonna put it on an
island or something.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yea, make it nice, but it's gonna be because if
you look, it's all about where the money is, of course,
and that is like where all the money is. So
like I know for a fact it's soon just going
to be there. I just hope I played long enough
to get to one of these. Yeah, Like I said,
Lenin was cool, but we were so we played the
Colts and the Colts are playing the Falcons. But there
was a chance that we were going to go to
(29:12):
Germany and play them before the schedule release came out.
So I was like, I was hoping that was there
because like I said, I would never go to Germany,
Like I'm not gonna let me go to Berlin, Germany.
I'm not doing that now, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
On vacation. So if I got to do it for football,
that'd be dope.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Of course you're a big w NBA guy. I am huge.
Can you explain why?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Uh So it really started here, Like it started in
twenty seventeen when.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I first came in Present State.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I can first state during our summer workouts when I
didn't know anybody on the team because I just got
here from from transferringing. The only thing on TV was
the college Women's World shirt, like World's serious for softball. Yeah,
so I would like watch it every day, like I
just got really into it. And then honesotly meeting Haley
Kaylee's yeah, great friend, my best friend here, Like so
(30:03):
just watching her play and doing that just kind of
took sports. She's dark, but that took off like women's
sports for me. And then it's just like I just
like to watch the game, like I love sports. If
like Caim will tell you, like if you ever just
come to my house, like I'll just have YouTube.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm just rolling, you know, Like I love sports.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
So and I think it's it's really cool to watch
women's sports because yeah, they can't dunk, but they have
to figure out a way to make the game creative,
like Kaitlyn Clark shooting is from half court?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Like that is insane.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Has Caitlyn Clark? Is she the lebron James matt figure
right now of the w NBA, Like, yeah, it's brought
so much popularity.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You know what I'm saying, It's what it is. Like
Kaitlyn Clark, she is, but she's exciting the way and
she's good.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's not like, yeah, she's not just.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Good for girls. She's she's good.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
She's good.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Like if Kaitlyn Clark goes and does a three point contest,
she's probably going to be right up there at the time,
you know what I'm saying, Like she's she's good. So
it's really exciting to watch. And I just think, like,
to me, it doesn't matter if it's men or women's sports.
I just like to watch sports. And I think some
of the stuff that these girls do is insane.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
It makes me think of a conversation we had in
Newport and I don't think we ever published, but do
you think that because there's a lot of guys who
claim their hoopers, a lot of guys who claim.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Their hoopers, everybody thinks they can hoopro.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And I know, Caitlyn Clarks brought this up with like,
why am I blanking on Cooper de gene yes one
on one and whatnot? Could and let's think let's just
talk college here, because I think college is a little
more fair playing field. I don't know how it would
work the NBA, I mean WNBA to NFL, Like that's
just too much of a gap. Probably, But do you
(31:46):
think that the best college do you think that the
best players on a college football team that claim to
be Hoopers would beat that their same college's women's basketball
team in a five, five on five game.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
So this is why it's it's tough, but I would
say they would. And I'm gonna tell you why I
would say they would, just because yeah, it just you
know what I'm saying, Like they fast break, well, probably
gonna be up to the court.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It would be.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It would It would not be if we had to
stop and set up defense every time, wouldn't wouldn't win.
But if we could just play fast breaks, throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
It'd be.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It'd be.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It'd be exactly if if we could play street ball
five on five.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, the wreck.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think yes, the football team would win just all
this because we could we should never miss a layup
or two. That's my thought part. We can get to
every exactly every time at the court. But with them,
if we had to set up offense and defense, I
don't think we could stop them from scoring. They literally,
like if you watch the percentage of women like when
they actually shoot, the ones who could really shoot, it's insane,
(32:50):
Like it's way harder than them because obviously the ball small,
the factors go into it, but like they're really good
at shooting. And like us when we're not playing amicla defense,
you know, we're not doing the slides.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
We're just we're just stay. We're standing in.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Front of you and making you shoot the ball. And
they could really shoot. So if we had to play
against Kaitlyn Clark, it would be a problem. It would
be a problem.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I would be a fun one because they were so
dominating in that Caitlyn Clark us exactly, So like a
prime Kaitlyn Clark Iowa versus the best Iowa ball players
on their football team, it'd be competitive.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
It would be it would be cod a point to
a certain.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Extent, Jeans highlight tape coming out of him and he'd
slam it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
It's something you would you would have to switch it
up to Okay, we can't run the fast break, set
it up then play.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Hey, I got a Caitlyn Clark jersey.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know that. You know that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, but it's tough because, like I said, you know,
you know, I'm a really big women's sports person, so
I really support them a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's just I just don't for you that they could win.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That's fair that they'll admit that probably.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, fast breaks is not happening.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Other sports golf, and it made me think today. You know,
we both have sons, younger sons. Obviously football is a
big element in our life, but we like the golf
were competitive, and I think you look around other sports
now a lot of guys are golfing on their free time,
golfing on the offseason. It's huge right now, it's booming.
(34:14):
I do think golf one thing that's different than football, baseball, basketball.
A golf ball is the same size, whether you're hitting
it as a three year old, ten year old, fifteen
year old, thirty five year old, one hundred year old,
it's the same size. Obviously, you adjust your clubs, you
could level up things of that nature. Some courses are
harder than others. But I feel like if you wanted
(34:36):
to fine tune your game and say, like go like
Tiger Wood style, we're from birth, or Rory macworrer, who's
freaking there's videos at him chipping in the washer machines
when he's six years old and he's still joined the
same drills at age forty. Whatever the hell he is? Right,
have you considered it saying like we're going to go
(34:56):
all in on golf, because if you look at the
money that's happening in golf, is there, Mike?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Is there? Mike like Cayden has his clubs. I WoT
him his own.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He has clubs. He's swinging, Yeah, he has. He has clubs.
He likes to he likes to knocket in there. But
it's just it's tough because like my son, he bounced
off the walls, you know, like he's not like I
can't be like, hey, let's do this, let's lock in here.
He's gonna he might he might hit the golf ball
three times and then go chase the butterfly or something
like that. You know, he's out, he's doing his thing.
But I do think that when it comes to we
(35:26):
had him in soccer.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, never do that again. That's that's it. That was
all right. He tried it, he tried, he tried. I mean, no, man,
he came to me a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's like Daddy, I'm too hot, like I do water,
like you know, it's just it's just different. So but
like for him, I don't know what he wants to do,
you know, as far as like I would love for
him to do golf because that would be like cool.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, be able to Well you look at what these
guys are making in a year. It's like you go
win a tournament, well million payout in one weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
But you just never I mean you just never know,
especially with kids like they could one day do nothing
next to you don't pick up golf and just love
it the rest of your life. So you're not gonna
force it on him. No, I told you.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I told you.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
We put him in soccer, and I feel like I
kind of pushed him to get out there and go
play some sports, and it's just like.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
God, it was awful.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Football comes soon enough.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I mean, he just kept tackling everybody.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So it's like you think he'll go tight end or
you gonna go defense. I would love for him personally
to play tight end, this new age tight end. I agree,
but he's like he's big, dude. He might have his
hand in dirt like he's he's he's big. He's a
big kid.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
That's not the worst thing, though. Look at what look
at what dns are getting paid these days.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You like he And then I have a nephew, shout
at him, Aaron, he is senior year, big kid, I
mean sixth to gotta be pushing too, eighty like big
starting to get some roll with some offers rolling in,
so hopefully we start get some stuff coming. But I
mean he's old line d line, so yeah, like hey,
(36:58):
that could be the move to Yeah,
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