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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look, that's the way to start the potty.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Darren Waller four yard touchdown on fourth ended up ruining
his WRAP career to come back to be in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
He was very much a top five tight end in
the lead at one point and he got both feet down.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
No thought he wasn't he like he was, and I
think he got put into he was like a wrong
offense situation. Like he also is not a guy that
I'm looking at to go down and like past block,
like I want to use I want to use him
in the past game, like if I'm in the red zone,
I want to be throwing jump balls to him.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
That's how I want to use him.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Because they just they just used him perfectly, and just
like they did right there when he was at words
of the Raiders, Josh McDaniels had that man coming in
three tight end sets and being the second tight end
having to put his face into guy.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
He didn't want that. He didn't want that. I would
like that either. We all know Jared Rice and Kyle Rittering.
You just know who the guy he got in. They
got their purposes well, which leads to me saying, sometimes
you just want a guy on your team. Who will
run face?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Come on, which to the New York Giants have a
guy named Cam Scautbow.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
He doesn't. It's not even run through somebody's face. He
wants to run through everything. Good.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No, he's like anything like the juggery, not mean, like
he's just running through walls. It's powering up by the
time he hit the third one.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Somebody said it best that that that juice that him
and Jackson daughter kind of like they're calling them what
the Caucasian creat team.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay, we're going.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Back to like when the Eagles were flying the exciting
white like there's there's there's a lot of things come
back for bro culture.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I think you can ride a playoff season off what
they brought. But I do believe they beat a good
Chargers team off of juice, just straight.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Up, just straight up, let's go, Hey boy, let's go.
We're younger and got more through well.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
And they're like they're like all giddy, like hey, this
is my first time to go shine and it's like bamn,
go be the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But like I do think they lose. That is the
type of energy that changes the trajectory of an organization.
That's like they may have been down that. I mean,
i'd be winning. People are probably talking about dabble like
is he the right guy? Also, he's got two young
whipper snappers in there, just throwing around respectful win too. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
These guys are like like Chargers were a Harball coach.
Yeah yeah, a Harball coach team. And they get it
at home like you're flying.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
High and like you're saying though it's not gonna lead,
like push them into like way off run or.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We might sit here next week and be like, hey,
I hope that I have that keeps happening to me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I hope that I have my foot in my mouth
in ten weeks. In the New York Giants are just
big market dominating with the boys.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Wins or touchdowns? Does camp scattaboy need to have for
us to buy a jersey? He already has enough.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I would one hundred rock the stat of o
see see Okay, I look, okay, I'll just I'll just
say this.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I don't know because I watched a quarterback series last
year and I was like, you know, I like, you know,
I'm sort of like Joe Burrow and so my girl friend.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Bought me and Joe Burrow jersey for my birthday. That's nice.
And I'm like, oh hell yeah. And then now he's
out with toe injury. That doesn't matter. No, no, no,
But I'm saying, you think you have a personal matters?
Do I have that?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Where I I as soon as I become a fan
of somebody or like UFC, same thing, I start liking
a fighter, they get knocked out.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Don't like Joshki say something bad.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
About him right now? The guy cannot interview. I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. That guy has classic interviews. That guy
needs someone to write scripts for him. Must put it
that way.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
He's like, he's like X, he's like Trump on AX.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Don't even get a start on that. Hey, but back
to it. The forty four is strong.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Though it's strong.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I do think him and Jackson Dartha do compliment each
other well, Like I think Scott was doing his thing
with Russen there, but he needed his boy. He's a
batman and Jackson Dorp might have a little I don't
know if it was a fake post about him.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Team No. I saw that too. I have some that's
a little backyard. I'm pretty sure it was. I'm pretty
sure it was the thing.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And it was like that post age really really well
because if if it didn't, if they.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Lost, well I want to talk a little about his swag, right, Like,
you know, you gotta have confidence play in the league.
You canna have confidence to do anything in your life.
So Eli, when he gets there, Eli Manning's like, hey,
here's my number. If you need anything, you let me know.
I'll take carry you. Well, like two weeks in dark
calls him and goes, hey, I need I need dinner
reservations like one of the hardest restaurants to get in
(04:35):
New York and Jackson darts calling a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Like like not like yo, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
He gets in his number, call me if you need
up looking at a look, well, I actually looked the
restaurant up. It's got like seven tables, like literally those
ones that like you have to know somebody or be
somebody to be in there. But I just love the
courage out of the young rookie going like, oh man,
you like gave me his number, I'll hit him up.
(05:05):
Real quicks even can give me a day. He must
have had some fine sure he was taking this. I
bet you if.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He didn't burn that bridge, not burn that bridge, if
you didn't use that up before he got the start
and the win against the Chargers, I bet you if
you hit him up today would be a little closer.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think you'd be a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
The answer on the phone might lead a little bit
more towards it, yes, rather than like, bro, that's not
why he gave you my number.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Conversation off with like, hey, good Win.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I was seeing things clearly, you know what, by the
way I got I got someone in town I want
to take to a nice spot.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Can you get me in here?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
If my phone sounded like it wasn't even a phone call,
no siph like, yo, Eli, can you give me in
here at seven o'clock?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
The dog pump me up? Not even know not even
can you get me in just like can you get
me in seven o'clock and make sure there's a bottle
of blah blah blah, like just straight up seem that way.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm not gonna lie. But like, also, I kind of
love that swag. I kind of like the way that
you have to attack life that way. The jackson dart
edits like.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
All right, what are you gonna do.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I like it. I like it. Is he a top
rookie quarterback in the league right now? It's too after
one game, you can't yea too hard to tell. Afon
game week four, I think he is for sure. It's
definitely wasn't Campbell.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I need to see. I need to see. I mean,
let's talk about a belt or the Titans. The Titans are. Yeah,
I've been a fan for a while and it's only
like the trajectory just look worse. What I do.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Respect cam Ward is he's in press conferences.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Did you guys happen to see the postgame presser with
the head coach?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
No? You know, like obviously you've.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Been in front of media, We've been in front of
the microphone getting asked questions. The sticks get a little high, right,
especially in NFL organizations where like the same reporter for
the you know, New York the Tennessee Times has been
there for ten years. They have a little bit of
relationship coaches up there, and the question was like, do
you still think this team is a gritty team?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The coach literally is standing there like, I'm gonna hold
off on answering that question right now because I'm gonna
stop myself from sane something I don't want to say,
And he's like, you know what you're doing, Like you
know what you're asking me right now, and I'm not
going to answer.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
What you you want me to get click wrapped up
right now with that twenty five second clip and honestly,
like I'm in the world nowadays with social media, like
give it to him, coach, Yeah, light them up.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Like, well, dude, that's your reporters that can just know
what they're saying. They be drawing these questions up, they
know how they're trying to. I think that you're in
a press post game or post conference game. I think
he should be free will I think you should be
able to say what you want and like take it
with a great assault.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, yeah, like look at Draymond Green was a perfect
example of this where it's like ESPN knows, like I'm
not going to even interview because he's about to get
live on his pod and say what he really wants
to say, that his teammates, his coach, the referee, he
is zero buffer any of that.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, and that's I think that's the beauty of of
like the free media market that we live in. Now right,
Like a guy's like, not, I don't need to answer
your questions. I'm just gonna go hop on my podcast
and like really, err it out there?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, that's why you get subscribers and used and he's
probably generating a fat revenue stream of correct.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Correct. Okay, what do you guys think of James Franklin
What he said after the game when they asked him
like enlighten me?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So basically he just addressed it and he was like, look,
there's like, you know, there's this thing out there that
I can't win games and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Like he's like it's true. He's like it's factual, it's
not anything.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He just kind of took it and ran with it,
which is like, yeah, we need to be better, Like
I want to win the game, the players want to
win the game.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I think that's a tough spot to be in as
a head coach.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I mean Dabo dealt with it recently, and like we
could get into all this, but like Penn State specifically
is in a unique situation because Dabo is in a
he's at a one and three start. He plays Bill
Belichick this upcoming weekend, where if he goes one and four,
are you on the shopping block now? Personally, I don't
think Clinton's going to find another a better man for
the job right now.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But look at gunn to.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Get Oklahoma State, who's had some good seasons there. I
don't know how long he's been there. It feels like
it's been a long time. He's been there, twenty or
twenty Yeah, like double digits.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Sure, I go back and find a game mulletback from
like na ye.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Like, but they can't his after Okay, they had a
pretty bad start of the year and he was keeping
in a buck on social media. Hey man, yeah, there's
sixty million dollars roster. We're not what do you want
me to do?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And he was kind of fighting that fight as it
was as he was getting punched in the face. But
comparing like the Dabo situation of him losing games to
James Franklin not winning the big games.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
It's a different world. It's different because Dabo's got natties. Yes,
Davo does have natties.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
There's not how many coaches currently coaching in college football
have multiple natties.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Let's know, like he like Dabo has seats, like the receipts,
like what I'm saying in the last I think he
last last presser, he got.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Up there and said, in the last eight or last
eight of the.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Ten years, I've been a conference champion with the Clemson
tires snuff.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That was a play.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And this is this is also where the conversation's hard, right,
Like we are still early enough that, like, like I
told Conflict this last week, we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But I said, all things ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They went out the rest of the games, a couple
of teams lose, they sneak into a conference champion and win.
That's a that's a three loss team automatic bid. Like, yeah,
so there could happen. There's still a pathway for the
correct very much could happen. Correct, they're gonna run into
Miami probably. Well, dude, the one that gets crazy is
Penn State. Well, they still they still.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Have to play Georgia Indiana, they already lost to They
got to play Ohio State in Michigan State.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But what I'm saying is, like James Franklin, Penn State
has always been good, always been good.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
They're kind of like they're kind of like they have
a sliver.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Of Nebraska in them, where in our era, we don't
remember them winning national championships, but our dads do they
remember them winning national championship.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, it's one of those brands that's just like really
like stayed intact for.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Fantastic football brand.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And they've consistently been a top twenty five, top ten team.
But he can't beat Michigan, he can't beat Ohio State.
He can't win when it matters. And last year we
did the playoff brackets and I picked Penn State. They
had the path man and they couldn't get it done.
And it's like this year, Okay, let's let's say they
beat organ that's great. They still got to get through
(11:19):
all these obstacles and they still very well probably will
be a playoff team. Yeah, but they're probably gonna get
knocked out second round.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But I'll be the devil's advocate on this. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So last year they had a hell of a run,
they had a great defense. Their quarterback is still the
same quarterback lost late in the season. Running backs lost
late in the season, face adversity and never really put
it back together. Right, Okay, I say on this year
that tough. That's a tough loss at home against a
really really good organ right, It's like you also number
(11:49):
seventeen Indiana. He crossed a He lost to a great
team in a great atmosphere, great for college football. But
I kind of liked that, Like for them, if I'm coached, right,
I'm like, hey, we didn't win that game, but we
do our teacher, but like we got.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It out of the way, now, fellas.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, and the thing is that we can lock in
and go beat our Georgias and go beat the Ohio
States and like prove every hater wrong in Penn State
history that I can win these games. So I'm gonna
be interested to see how they kind of shifts, how
the coaching staff shifts. They got this lost by the way,
a big one. Hey boys, we lost in the wide out,
Well they're doing that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
They're like you said, they lost in the biggest and
the biggest kind of environment they could have with a
big team coming in there. They're in a wide out
huge advantage. But they're a vet, they're a veteran team
and still had a chance to win that game.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Like Oregon came out and said, like we practiced for
that play all week long because they run that play
and haven't run it yet.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
All of a sudden, and I.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Went back and watched the tape that the safety or
he might have been a linebacker, probably a Sam type
body that got the pick. If you watch it, he's
sitting in his zone and right when Drew looks that way,
he's gone like on a YEP missile right, So literally
the trajectory where that ball is gonna be thrown. So
it's like, really coach team, high stake atmosphere we be
(13:03):
we'd be on the other end of the talk right
now talking the same thing about Dan Lanning Oregon if
they would, if if the result was.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Different, right, I can agree with that.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I do think Dan Lanning those career at Oregon is
still green and he's had success, and I.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Feel like it's just starting to build for.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A long time, and now Dan Lanning might be a
guy who loses in the playoff the next three years
and now we are having that the same Yeah, James Franklin,
it does feel like he's been the head coach at
Penn State for a long time and they can't get
the job.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So on Google right now, it says that there's two
Kirby Smart Dabo or the only two that haven't two
national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, but this says Ryan Day, but it says he
only has once. I don't know why it's on here.
I think there's a I think he had a previous covides.
Maybe there's an asteris to that.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's what there's a not a Those are
like those ones you can go clean.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Right, we're talking about back in the day.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Claim Like in twenty years, somebody's gonna come back and see, like,
you know how the state didn't win that war?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Actually, didn't you see f claim one one year? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, I do think one last thing for that Penn
State game, there was a very dicey, questionable targeting call
that was not called.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And hey, I'm all for player safety. We all are.
Targeting gets called very loosely these days. Dude. It's like
first player of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You hit a dude in a football play and people
are watching this in micro's slow motion, yeah, not realizing
like this is happening in zero point three seconds full speed.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
No, It's the best way to explain is like when
I sit here and I get to be on the
couch and watch it in super slow mo. Obviously I
can be like Dann that dude shouldn't have done that.
But because I played, I know that. It's like watching
a car accident. It happens so fast. Well, my biggest
thing is trying to make a play and all of
a sudden, like crownd is how it goes into someone's face.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Massive you can you can tell, like you've been in
practice in its rap or thud versus live and you
see a guy thud a guy a little too hard
and you're like, oh, here we go. Like you can
tell when somebody's intention with a hit complact with that guy.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What's that? Well, you could know, but I don't. It
comes like saying, because like this, let's say you can
see the intention of a hit with the two or
the three, and you.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Want to show that, hey, I was there to make
that play. I was there to I was inside leverage
to make that block. And I'm trying to prove my spot,
not because I care about Chances are no one's watching
me that play because I'm I'm blocking or.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm but it's gonna be on film. It's gonna be
on film. We're gonna watch this thing tonight.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We're gonna watch this thing to warn I need to
show that, hey, I can handle the eleven this situation.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yes, so I agree with you. That happens on time.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What I'm getting to you on this Penn State organ
thing is that was a textbook targeting call in a
high pressure situation that they were like, you just didn't
get called, that's not it was like Bro's direct helmet Tom.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, So here I have a question. He's so hard now, Okay,
I have a question for you guys, Like, what do
you guys think targeting is any sort of head to
head contact with the crown or is it? Or is
it more of intent? I think it's it's both with
the head to the head.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Like like if I'm coming in, like, but it's also
the rules change between a defensive player and a non
defensive player, and two steps is what determines that. So
now you're making it like I'm not even a defensive player, right,
And I'm for defensive guys because they're having to make
a split second decision in less than that split second.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, like and and as a defensive player you have
to you have to be able to protect you yourself too, So.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's such a you you've seen the textbook targeting call
where dudes in the air, defensive players locked and loaded,
left his feet, put his freaking face mask. Right, there's
a battle neck Like there's a there was one a
couple weeks ago that was like completely blatant in you're
like yes, like hey, like this right here fellows this
teach tape of what we're calling targeting for.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But but I also see from a defensive player's position
where it's like, bro, what if I'm I'm a five
to ten safety and I and put everything I have
into that.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
As I'm power cleaning up, smack this dude. Yeah, my
head's at the top of my body. I'm gonna have
some contact there, man. Yeah, that's I feel like there
needs to be that's the thing. You can't have discretion,
but you need dispression ray area. That's tough part. You
can't get hit and blurting on the line.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Because I saw a play the other day where I
was probably two weeks ago block kick guy picks up
the kick, comes around and got absolutely obliterated by some
dude coaches on the signing Like that's targeting, Like that
is proper targeting, Like why are we not calling it
because it wasn't in the form of past being thrown catch,
catching hit defense. It was very flowing and like this
(17:34):
dude was defenseless, already had somebody at his feet and
he got absolutely decleted. But it's like, Okay, I would
watch that and say that was targeting, and then watch
one later the day and be like, why the why
did the flat gets thrown there?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, So I want to move on from this topic.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
But sure when somebody when somebody has on their hands
but they're in the air, they're defenseless. Yeah, I think
it's I think if you have the ball in your hands,
you cannot be deemed the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's but back that puts us back in the old
school ball day, where like I'm not saying you're not
throwing the ball over the middle because if that kid
leaves his feet, he's gonna get.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, and Tom Brady has a great point that that
quarterbacks better position.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
My only thing is if as it just don't go
and try to destroy the guy make a clean tackle.
I don't know they're take his legs out. Yeah, but
then but then how do you how do you make
a play to get to break the ball, break the
pass up when he has in his hands. We've seen
so many times where a guy hits a clean hit
ball comes out, it's incomplete. It just makes it so.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think it's gonna be one of those things that
we it's just about forever and ever until it. Yeah,
they like just say we don't get to play tackle
football anymore exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's where it's going. Well.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Speaking of contacts, Lane Kiffen made contacts on Twitter this week.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Multiple times following an ole Miss win.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Where are the lunch pill? Guy's stock is high on
ole Miss right now?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I want to I want to put it out there
and say that months ago I was asked, yeah, who
you taking perennial front runner stark Horse, Oh, Miss Baby, Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It looks four and oh we're ranked top four.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I like it is in his in his chat GBT
textbox texting people at two o'clock in the morning letting
him know.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
A lamp baby situation. Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Lane Kiffin's daughter does a hard launch the week of
Oh we talked about this? Oh yeah that she is
dating Wit Weeks, who's the stud linebacker for Allisu?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Okay, was that plan did? Did they did? Is this
like a marketing plan? I want to plan. I want
to know what he.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Thinks, yes, it was planned.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
They're not cooking at that high highway level between witweeks
his daughter and Lane.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
No Lane, No, no, No.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Lane is the type of dude who's like, probably they've
I'm sure they've been dating a long period.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's what I said too, especially if they they know
each other. It's not like they've gone on two days.
They're hard launching to totally smokes. You're ripping the words
out of my mouth talking for a little bit of time.
I agree today's day and age.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
If you're gonna hard love, if youre gonna put your
chick or your guy on Instagram, you guys, your boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, especially with the high profile of both of them. Sure,
of course, So I think it was a hard launch.
I think it was to bring a little little zest
to the game. Lane probably ate that up.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And you know what if he was asked directly, you know,
black and white, like how long have you've been dating
this guy?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
With dating your daughter?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But I'm sure he likes with what seems like a
very likable guy.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I was gonna say gonna.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I would be fired up if I was the head
fotball coach and of the best Linebass in the country
loves football and hunting.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's about it. Like, that's really what he said. He likes.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But like we talked about, is dating Lane's daughter, so
he he's winning the war. But Lane won the battle.
He won the game. And on Twitter what made wit
Weeks puke in the third quarter? I wonder what Lane
fed in like and he could have responded, you know,
don't eat the.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Chicken falls in the same line of what he commented,
win over take the like how which I did? I
want to I want to know. I know I need
to note that that tweet was sent out at like
three am Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, he was decompressing. My man was decompressing.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He didn't have anything other to worry about after winning
the Magnolia Bowl fishing.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You know, Saban saying posting something, but he's and he's
scrolling Twitter because that's where he's at life.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
He loves hitting it there. He loves getting on Twitter
and seeing what's good. What I'm saying. I loved it.
I love I love that he's just out here, like
to random people or to random posts. I wasn't like.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Random, No, that was some random dude that posted that
picture in said, I about spit my coffee out and
just looks down on the coast, a tempo bie like
you can't like if I'm in that locker room, if
I'm on that team, like I'm doing whatever I can
for Lin Kiffin, like I'm going, I'm trying to go
twelve and oh this year, I.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Think it get to the bold. Baby. It makes me
laugh my ass off because there's been games where that's
almost been me and have like your our friends, like dad,
who's the head coach of the team that just beat you.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, I got to give the a little little little
shoulder chick little chit music everyone. Yeah, but I'm just
perfectly appropriate, respectful, laugh about it.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Move on.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I just kind of I just, you know, not to
stay on the whole mistrain. But I just love where
their program's at right now. They're coming off great year
last year. Okay, obviously they would have loved make to
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They didn't. Didn't make that happened a little bit, had
three lost team.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Right, there were some competitive teams last year, but went
into the portal, got to they have some big games,
went and found themselves a great quarterback. Okay, he does.
He's actually technically their backup. Let's not forget about this
for a second. Like he's was routed as being their
backup Chamberliss has come onto the scene and really kind
of broke it down in the sec Yeah, I'm excited
to see where they're going. They're throwing all ups on
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the sideline when they're up forty Young Lane Kiffen's over
here doing whatever he came to beat to the boys. Like,
I couldn't be more fired up on where the Fighting
Rebels are headed for this season.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
They got a little galling here. Let me let me
name off the dude they have the victim. Dude here,
give me some victory. They got some big games they
got to buy this week. They got Washington State. It
should be a whax easy they got.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
They go to Georgia, They go to Oklahoma, Georgia, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
They play South Carolina. That looks like they're picking up
the little steam again. The Heisman needs to be bad.
They play the Citadel good rep. I like that game
they played Florida. Then they finish up with Mississippi State
rivalry game and State is pretty damn good. They're they're
they're on a game to watch this weekend for myself.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
But this is this like some unfolding, like like what
you're saying, your dark horse team, if they can win
these games, the scenario ale miss is number one of
the country.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, there is in those silky baby blues too. I
can't wait to see the graphic when they're.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Number one, sexiest, top five, sexiest, number one ranked team ever.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Uniform no, their uniform swag and just honestly, I was
talking to pop about that day, like their atmosphere, their stadium,
like you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Guys played there right there, like I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I believe that I was a true sophomore playing against
Robert Camdchi at the time. It's the first football game
that I ever went to and played in and was
like different out here, different out here in Oxford.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And the libraries. We need a library places. It's just
it's what it should We got one of close. It's
what it should be. It's what college football should be.
You thousand cheap shots.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Cheap beers, honky talk man, just like and they want
your kid to have a college experience, send them to
a place like illness and they and they dressed the nines.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Love that Like I remember, like I was sitting there,
couldn't hear at my center's yelling at me, And I
look up and there's just a couple of broods in
a nice sun dress, couple of dudes in their nice
button up shirts with their tie like all the frat
boys are looking all fresh and tight.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm like, okay, boys, who is it's your team of
the week.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That is kind of on the sleeper, But and be
top ten very soon if they're not already, or deserve
a little more respect.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I got one, I got one, I got two. They
played each other last week, Texas.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Tech beat in Utah. In Utah, it was a hard
place to play.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm thinking Utah said, Utah comes back this week and
makes a statement win.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
They look good and listen, they should win the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That being said, Texas Tech people don't know this have
one of the most expensive.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Rosters in collegere Yeah right now, yeahday.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
They've made it very clear they got they have to
spend above market price because they got to convince people
to be at their games. They look, we were talking
about this last week like it was. It really is
a testament, right them going in and beating Utah like
Utah is. We've talked about them. They're a perennial winning team.
It was a tight game. It was close. They ended
up pulling away at the end, but it was a tight,
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tight game where where Tech Tech pretty much was the
first time I've watched them since the Patrick Mahomes era
actually finished the game and win the way they need
to win. Put their you know, forty five million dollars
roster on on a pedestal and say go win us
this game right now.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So it's it's me very interesting to see. Are you
saying who are you saying?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
There? You saying it's Texas Tech? Is your needs more
needs some more love or Utah needs some more love.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I think Utah sees Texas Tech again with with with
the with WILLI hamm that coach, like, I think I'm
gonna take Utah.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's by dark Horse getting the playoff. Wow, noise, I
mean they just routed West Virginia. Yeah, I like that.
I like that. My I would say mine is definitely
gonna be Mississippi State. He's there to make a run.
They're in the SEC. They're in the SEC. They're four
and one.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
They have a hell of a game ahead of them
this weekend against Texas Texas A and m Okay text
A and M also has been on a pretty good
run there ranked they've wanted. They've won some games that
they've snuck out and needed to win. But I'm liking
the way Mississippi State's playing ball. Like they're flying around there.
But they're when I was selling you a couple of
weeks ago, like SEC football looks a little different, right,
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scoring a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I like.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I think they look more like traditional SEC. Like they're
playing hard nosed defense. They're scoring the points when they
need to, Like they're getting the ball in scoring points,
they're not getting stalled out, and they're not giving up
a bunch of points.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Right, They're playing good football. Looks good. I would love
to see them go on a little sneaky run.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But hey, good luck if they run an ole miss
because they're gonna get just molly WAPs.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
All right. This is and we talked about this last week.
I'm not the biggest Pavia fan, I'm not, but he
has swagged. He has swag.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
They have a big game and and I'm not talking
about dark Cords for the rest of the season, but
to get into the top ten. I think that's who's
gonna find a way to get it done. I don't
want to see kaln Wor loose because I think he's
gonna get fired if he doesn't make it to the
play a deep run into the playoffs. But I think
I think Vandy they just they just have something brewing
(28:04):
over there that it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Just does Fandy beat Bama this week.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, I think Bama was. I think that was about
to go around. Yeah, I think about going to around
the fighting grubbies. They're gonna start running more bubble bullet
with offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
No, okay, because Bama would have been my my pick
if they weren't already in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I feel like you can't pick Bama. What do you mean, dude?
Did you see them lose the floor State?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
That was that was last year, brother Roster. No, No, no,
that was this year. That was the first game they
looked really bad and right now they look really good.
Did you look into the stats on that game? Though?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Huh, it was hot, it was muggy, it was rainy.
Nobody cares it is. It is a testament to look
at the way that they've produced. Yeah, hey, we're a podcast.
There's some things that you're gonna look into if that can.
Look at what they did the next game, the next Yeah,
but look at that. My thing, my thing, my thing,
my thing was look at the effort. Don't even look
at the stats. The effort was just terrible.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
This is also a little bit of bulletin board week
for for Bama.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think Pavia has uh.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Literally built a reputation off of beating Alabama yea last year.
He's writing off of beating out like he's putting himself
in a Manziel category.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
See Okay, I'm I'm gonna stop that right there. Don't
They're not even in the same Johnny Manziel and Diego
Pavia are not even in the same are you are you?
You can't even sit here and there.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
He thinks that he's in that tier and some people
are just mentally delusional confidence put I'm gonna put a
eat my own words alert up because if Diego Pavia
goes and beats Alabama.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And goes on a run, go on a run.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
If he beats Alabama twice in three years, I don't
know if anybody has done that.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Bennett ben behind a no who hate de Shaun Watson
quarterback Clemson. Did he beat him twice?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think so, okay, that's also natty, that's natty material.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
This is a bandy team. Diego Pavia did bring Vandy
back there five and zero.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm just saying, like, I think, also, hot take Diego
Pavia beats Spama this week and he has a good game,
like a little three touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, are you saying Heisman talk front runner? Wow? Hot
take something?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I think that's I think that's whoa. I missed that.
That was over here trying to look at the roster
of another team. Clip it, but like, dude, don't even
think that that man's in the top runner of a Heisman.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
He beats if he and and he's the reason they
beat Vanma. Diego Pavia should be the Heisman frontrunner.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We're gonna have to take the Heisman off the dock
and the best player in the country if if Diego pop.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Most popularity though popular.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Who makes the most noise on Instagram gets to the
Heisman trophy, Like that's.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
What it's going We should make there should there should
like we've had we've had this conversation. He's a Yeah,
I think gents should have want to. I think gent
T should have wanted to.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Neither hit or there anyways, here moving on another team
that I'm thinking of, Sleeper that I would love to
see going a run. Virginia. Yes they need big win.
MoU Fassa died like that. Okay, like we need to
we need to talk about this for a second. Talk
a little bit about crowd control, little fan control.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
To that video the field I've ever seen in my life.
They were they were standing there on the sideline ready
to rock at the mouth, like ready to do and
they didn't even they didn't even signal incomplete or interception
or anything that people were the halfway on the field. Game.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh yeah, and three of those fellows absolutely just get
lost in the masses.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You have shoulder pads and helmets on.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
There's a good chance you got stampeded out and died.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Okay, I texted you right away. So this is what
Fasa died. What is it?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
What does it feel like when you.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Just you just go out in the front yard all
I'll explain with that.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
No, I'm talking about emotionally. I know what it feels
like to get trampled on. Okay, I don't not at
that tier.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It was level, like you're at the bottom of a
pile and the play still happening and you're like, get
like a little one two, Like I still have a
store by cap from that like fifteen years ago. But
guess what that And it's not only are you getting
stamped on, you just lost got upset in double over time,
double over It was.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
No, it was it was. It was a dramatic game.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I got the schedule, I have the game, but it
was double overtime, double overtime.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, lost, And I don't know if they got the
same magnitude as like a Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
No, I don't think they do. I think that was
a fun win.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
But I was like, I'm looking at their ros right now.
They're four and one. They beat down of Coastal. Then
they went and lost to NC State by four. That
it was that's not like it's not it's not a
great loss, right, but you go and beat William Mary
that's a nice little gimme, beat Stanford, beat Ford State.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
They got Louisville up on the weekend this weekend, Like
that's a sleepy that's a sleepy good game.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
And then it goes so it goes Louisville, Washington State,
North Carolina, col Wake, Forest, Duke, Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
But I don't know if they play anybody big enough
to like, really they went them up.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But if they win out but yeah, I guess the
dark dark horse to go to the playoff. No, but
what I'd love to see Virginia like sneaking in the
top fifteen. Yes, after I'd love to feel that. Let's
go at first year.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Let's just brush on one bad bad beat, bad beat
of the day. Does UCLA win a game this year?
They got Penn State this week. Okay, I've already looked
at it.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
The only two teams I think they can be is
Michigan State or Maryland.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
In my opinion, think the I think they could get
after Nebraska. Maryland's port out. Yeah, out of Wisconsin, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know if they I think it's a Michigan
State is a winnable game. I think Nebraska is a
winnable game. Maia, I don't think Nebraska is a winnable game.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
When I went and watched Nebraska Cornhuskers, They're gonna just
dog UCLA.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
In my opinion, I want to see, you know, obviously,
look they lost to New Mexico, they fire their coach,
intrim coach Tim Skipper, Tim Skipper of the program.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Hey, hey, Kevin Coyle, let me just throw that.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Shot out there. I think they have defensive coordinator. Yeah,
they they can do some rebuilding.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But I was like, we we we like all those coaches, right,
we liked them. Did they give us a lot of
success when they coach our program here nor there?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Okay? But neutral you get a brand. I want to
I want to mount Watch Championship with them.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
So I'm happy I'm talking about fotcha. Okay, brother, Hey,
don't take it personal. It's okay. We're all dogs here. Well,
I'm not taking a personal cla barely losing in Northwestern Northwest.
It's not that good of a team, but it shows
me a little bit of a shimmer of like, okay,
maybe an interim staff with with a skip and a
couple of guys that we know they could rally again.
(34:45):
They could rally a game or two here. Okay, I'd
love to see him win four or five. But in
the realists of the world, like I think, did they
go get absolutely tapped by Indiana?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is Medio the saddest guy in culture. No, he's making
a lot of money. Well, yeah, I think he brought
the competitor and obviously is distraught. Is it though? This
is a problem.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
This is a problem with Dan age Man and I
al when guys start running, I think chasing dollars because
you have no idea whether he's actually competitively in there
in the brain.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You would hope that he is, well, he has some
sort of competitiveness in him or else he just wouldn't
play a sport that you go out on the field
you want to win, you want you Yes, no doubt.
Now now does does that?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Does does him being distraught over not winning a single
game and kind of looking like a dummy for leaving Tennessee?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Uh? Outweigh the two million dollars or whatever he got.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I think it's a great example to the rest of
the college football landscape. Grass aint always greener.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Fact, it's green where you water it, and uh, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
The difference between getting paid These are numbers I'll pulled
out of my ass. Uh, do you want to be
on a top twenty five Tennessee team that's relevant in
the playoff with a sick environment every week?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Getting paid two million dollars? Or do you want to
make two point three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
At a five thousand person empty Rose Bowl Stadium.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'll tell you where I'd want to be. You don't
be too saying it like the grass is not always
green hurt. And I think that's a good example to
collegeable in general.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I think there will hit a point where, you know,
if you're making fifty grand and someone offers you five
hundred grand, go.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Take the breast. I'm taking the extra zeros.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
But I think if it's if you're already in the
two million and you're you want to two three, you
kind of got a weigh your odds because now not
only are you yes, you're making money up front. Also
I don't know how that works from a tax perspective.
Is that considered ever?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, that's all. I mean, they're all tending what I'm saying,
like so.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, but like he's getting taxed, he's getting California tax right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, so did he do the math California tax? Probably
when to see taxes? I mean hopefully I would have that.
Hopefully that table.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
We got into these conversations like when I was in
it of being like hopefully a guy at that number
has hired a team to help him. Somebody, some manager,
some accountant, whatever, right, some situations is getting looked at
to make sure that he understands that he most likely
lost the hell of a lot more money going to
UCLA than he would have been keeping to his that Tennessee,
(37:17):
that's an interesting that's an interesting thing that some of
these you know, schools that are in no income, no
income state taxes, right like California should.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
UNOV should be a very attractive place. Yeah,
Look, that's the way to start the potty.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Darren Waller four yard touchdown on fourth ended up ruining
his WRAP career to come back to be in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
He was very much a top five tight end in
the lead at one point and he got both feet down.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
No thought he wasn't he like he was, and I
think he got put into he was like a wrong
offense situation. Like he also is not a guy that
I'm looking at to go down and like past block,
like I want to use I want to use him
in the past game, like if I'm in the red zone,
I want to be throwing jump balls to him.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
That's how I want to use him.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Because they just they just used him perfectly, and just
like they did right there when he was at words
of the Raiders, Josh McDaniels had that man coming in
three tight end sets and being the second tight end
having to put his face into guy.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
He didn't want that. He didn't want that. I would
like that either. We all know Jared Rice and Kyle Rittering.
You just know who the guy he got in. They
got their purposes well, which leads to me saying, sometimes
you just want a guy on your team. Who will
run face?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Come on, which to the New York Giants have a
guy named Cam Scautbow.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
He doesn't. It's not even run through somebody's face. He
wants to run through everything. Good.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No, he's like anything like the juggery, not mean, like
he's just running through walls. It's powering up by the
time he hit the third one.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Somebody said it best that that that juice that him
and Jackson daughter kind of like they're calling them what
the Caucasian creat team.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay, we're going.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Back to like when the Eagles were flying the exciting
white like there's there's there's a lot of things come
back for bro culture.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I think you can ride a playoff season off what
they brought. But I do believe they beat a good
Chargers team off of juice, just straight.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Up, just straight up, let's go, Hey boy, let's go.
We're younger and got more through well.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
And they're like they're like all giddy, like hey, this
is my first time to go shine and it's like bamn,
go be the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But like I do think they lose. That is the
type of energy that changes the trajectory of an organization.
That's like they may have been down that. I mean,
i'd be winning. People are probably talking about dabble like
is he the right guy? Also, he's got two young
whipper snappers in there, just throwing around respectful win too. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
These guys are like like Chargers were a Harball coach.
Yeah yeah, a Harball coach team. And they get it
at home like you're flying.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
High and like you're saying though it's not gonna lead,
like push them into like way off run or.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We might sit here next week and be like, hey,
I hope that I have that keeps happening to me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I hope that I have my foot in my mouth
in ten weeks. In the New York Giants are just
big market dominating with the boys.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Wins or touchdowns? Does camp scattaboy need to have for
us to buy a jersey? He already has enough.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I would one hundred rock the stat of o
see see Okay, I look, okay, I'll just I'll just
say this.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I don't know because I watched a quarterback series last
year and I was like, you know, I like, you know,
I'm sort of like Joe Burrow and so my girl friend.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Bought me and Joe Burrow jersey for my birthday. That's nice.
And I'm like, oh hell yeah. And then now he's
out with toe injury. That doesn't matter. No, no, no,
But I'm saying, you think you have a personal matters?
Do I have that?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Where I I as soon as I become a fan
of somebody or like UFC, same thing, I start liking
a fighter, they get knocked out.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Don't like Joshki say something bad.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
About him right now? The guy cannot interview. I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. That guy has classic interviews. That guy
needs someone to write scripts for him. Must put it
that way.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
He's like, he's like X, he's like Trump on AX.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Don't even get a start on that. Hey, but back
to it. The forty four is strong.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Though it's strong.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I do think him and Jackson Dartha do compliment each
other well, Like I think Scott was doing his thing
with Russen there, but he needed his boy. He's a
batman and Jackson Dorp might have a little I don't
know if it was a fake post about him.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Team No. I saw that too. I have some that's
a little backyard. I'm pretty sure it was. I'm pretty
sure it was the thing.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And it was like that post age really really well
because if if it didn't, if they.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Lost, well I want to talk a little about his swag, right, Like,
you know, you gotta have confidence play in the league.
You canna have confidence to do anything in your life.
So Eli, when he gets there, Eli Manning's like, hey,
here's my number. If you need anything, you let me know.
I'll take carry you. Well, like two weeks in dark
calls him and goes, hey, I need I need dinner
reservations like one of the hardest restaurants to get in
(04:35):
New York and Jackson darts calling a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Like like not like yo, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
He gets in his number, call me if you need
up looking at a look, well, I actually looked the
restaurant up. It's got like seven tables, like literally those
ones that like you have to know somebody or be
somebody to be in there. But I just love the
courage out of the young rookie going like, oh man,
you like gave me his number, I'll hit him up.
(05:05):
Real quicks even can give me a day. He must
have had some fine sure he was taking this. I
bet you if.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He didn't burn that bridge, not burn that bridge, if
you didn't use that up before he got the start
and the win against the Chargers, I bet you if
you hit him up today would be a little closer.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think you'd be a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
The answer on the phone might lead a little bit
more towards it, yes, rather than like, bro, that's not
why he gave you my number.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Conversation off with like, hey, good Win.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I was seeing things clearly, you know what, by the
way I got I got someone in town I want
to take to a nice spot.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Can you get me in here?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
If my phone sounded like it wasn't even a phone call,
no siph like, yo, Eli, can you give me in
here at seven o'clock?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
The dog pump me up? Not even know not even
can you get me in just like can you get
me in seven o'clock and make sure there's a bottle
of blah blah blah, like just straight up seem that way.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm not gonna lie. But like, also, I kind of
love that swag. I kind of like the way that
you have to attack life that way. The jackson dart
edits like.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
All right, what are you gonna do.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I like it. I like it. Is he a top
rookie quarterback in the league right now? It's too after
one game, you can't yea too hard to tell. Afon
game week four, I think he is for sure. It's
definitely wasn't Campbell.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I need to see. I need to see. I mean,
let's talk about a belt or the Titans. The Titans are. Yeah,
I've been a fan for a while and it's only
like the trajectory just look worse. What I do.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Respect cam Ward is he's in press conferences.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Did you guys happen to see the postgame presser with
the head coach?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
No? You know, like obviously you've.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Been in front of media, We've been in front of
the microphone getting asked questions. The sticks get a little high, right,
especially in NFL organizations where like the same reporter for
the you know, New York the Tennessee Times has been
there for ten years. They have a little bit of
relationship coaches up there, and the question was like, do
you still think this team is a gritty team?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The coach literally is standing there like, I'm gonna hold
off on answering that question right now because I'm gonna
stop myself from sane something I don't want to say,
And he's like, you know what you're doing, Like you
know what you're asking me right now, and I'm not
going to answer.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
What you you want me to get click wrapped up
right now with that twenty five second clip and honestly,
like I'm in the world nowadays with social media, like
give it to him, coach, Yeah, light them up.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Like, well, dude, that's your reporters that can just know
what they're saying. They be drawing these questions up, they
know how they're trying to. I think that you're in
a press post game or post conference game. I think
he should be free will I think you should be
able to say what you want and like take it
with a great assault.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, yeah, like look at Draymond Green was a perfect
example of this where it's like ESPN knows, like I'm
not going to even interview because he's about to get
live on his pod and say what he really wants
to say, that his teammates, his coach, the referee, he
is zero buffer any of that.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, and that's I think that's the beauty of of
like the free media market that we live in. Now right,
Like a guy's like, not, I don't need to answer
your questions. I'm just gonna go hop on my podcast
and like really, err it out there?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, that's why you get subscribers and used and he's
probably generating a fat revenue stream of correct.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Correct. Okay, what do you guys think of James Franklin
What he said after the game when they asked him
like enlighten me?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So basically he just addressed it and he was like, look,
there's like, you know, there's this thing out there that
I can't win games and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Like he's like it's true. He's like it's factual, it's
not anything.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He just kind of took it and ran with it,
which is like, yeah, we need to be better, Like
I want to win the game, the players want to
win the game.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I think that's a tough spot to be in as
a head coach.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I mean Dabo dealt with it recently, and like we
could get into all this, but like Penn State specifically
is in a unique situation because Dabo is in a
he's at a one and three start. He plays Bill
Belichick this upcoming weekend, where if he goes one and four,
are you on the shopping block now? Personally, I don't
think Clinton's going to find another a better man for
the job right now.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But look at gunn to.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Get Oklahoma State, who's had some good seasons there. I
don't know how long he's been there. It feels like
it's been a long time. He's been there, twenty or
twenty Yeah, like double digits.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Sure, I go back and find a game mulletback from
like na ye.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Like, but they can't his after Okay, they had a
pretty bad start of the year and he was keeping
in a buck on social media. Hey man, yeah, there's
sixty million dollars roster. We're not what do you want
me to do?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And he was kind of fighting that fight as it
was as he was getting punched in the face. But
comparing like the Dabo situation of him losing games to
James Franklin not winning the big games.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
It's a different world. It's different because Dabo's got natties. Yes,
Davo does have natties.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
There's not how many coaches currently coaching in college football
have multiple natties.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Let's know, like he like Dabo has seats, like the receipts,
like what I'm saying in the last I think he
last last presser, he got.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Up there and said, in the last eight or last
eight of the.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Ten years, I've been a conference champion with the Clemson
tires snuff.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That was a play.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And this is this is also where the conversation's hard, right,
Like we are still early enough that, like, like I
told Conflict this last week, we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But I said, all things ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They went out the rest of the games, a couple
of teams lose, they sneak into a conference champion and win.
That's a that's a three loss team automatic bid. Like, yeah,
so there could happen. There's still a pathway for the
correct very much could happen. Correct, they're gonna run into
Miami probably. Well, dude, the one that gets crazy is
Penn State. Well, they still they still.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Have to play Georgia Indiana, they already lost to They
got to play Ohio State in Michigan State.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But what I'm saying is, like James Franklin, Penn State
has always been good, always been good.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
They're kind of like they're kind of like they have
a sliver.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Of Nebraska in them, where in our era, we don't
remember them winning national championships, but our dads do they
remember them winning national championship.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, it's one of those brands that's just like really
like stayed intact for.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Fantastic football brand.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And they've consistently been a top twenty five, top ten team.
But he can't beat Michigan, he can't beat Ohio State.
He can't win when it matters. And last year we
did the playoff brackets and I picked Penn State. They
had the path man and they couldn't get it done.
And it's like this year, Okay, let's let's say they
beat organ that's great. They still got to get through
(11:19):
all these obstacles and they still very well probably will
be a playoff team. Yeah, but they're probably gonna get
knocked out second round.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But I'll be the devil's advocate on this. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So last year they had a hell of a run,
they had a great defense. Their quarterback is still the
same quarterback lost late in the season. Running backs lost
late in the season, face adversity and never really put
it back together. Right, Okay, I say on this year
that tough. That's a tough loss at home against a
really really good organ right, It's like you also number
(11:49):
seventeen Indiana. He crossed a He lost to a great
team in a great atmosphere, great for college football. But
I kind of liked that, Like for them, if I'm coached, right,
I'm like, hey, we didn't win that game, but we
do our teacher, but like we got.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It out of the way, now, fellas.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, and the thing is that we can lock in
and go beat our Georgias and go beat the Ohio
States and like prove every hater wrong in Penn State
history that I can win these games. So I'm gonna
be interested to see how they kind of shifts, how
the coaching staff shifts. They got this lost by the way,
a big one. Hey boys, we lost in the wide out,
Well they're doing that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
They're like you said, they lost in the biggest and
the biggest kind of environment they could have with a
big team coming in there. They're in a wide out
huge advantage. But they're a vet, they're a veteran team
and still had a chance to win that game.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Like Oregon came out and said, like we practiced for
that play all week long because they run that play
and haven't run it yet.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
All of a sudden, and I.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Went back and watched the tape that the safety or
he might have been a linebacker, probably a Sam type
body that got the pick. If you watch it, he's
sitting in his zone and right when Drew looks that way,
he's gone like on a YEP missile right, So literally
the trajectory where that ball is gonna be thrown. So
it's like, really coach team, high stake atmosphere we be
(13:03):
we'd be on the other end of the talk right
now talking the same thing about Dan Lanning Oregon if
they would, if if the result was.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Different, right, I can agree with that.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I do think Dan Lanning those career at Oregon is
still green and he's had success, and I.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Feel like it's just starting to build for.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A long time, and now Dan Lanning might be a
guy who loses in the playoff the next three years
and now we are having that the same Yeah, James Franklin,
it does feel like he's been the head coach at
Penn State for a long time and they can't get
the job.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So on Google right now, it says that there's two
Kirby Smart Dabo or the only two that haven't two
national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, but this says Ryan Day, but it says he
only has once. I don't know why it's on here.
I think there's a I think he had a previous covides.
Maybe there's an asteris to that.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's what there's a not a Those are
like those ones you can go clean.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Right, we're talking about back in the day.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Claim Like in twenty years, somebody's gonna come back and see, like,
you know how the state didn't win that war?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Actually, didn't you see f claim one one year? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, I do think one last thing for that Penn
State game, there was a very dicey, questionable targeting call
that was not called.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And hey, I'm all for player safety. We all are.
Targeting gets called very loosely these days. Dude. It's like
first player of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You hit a dude in a football play and people
are watching this in micro's slow motion, yeah, not realizing
like this is happening in zero point three seconds full speed.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
No, It's the best way to explain is like when
I sit here and I get to be on the
couch and watch it in super slow mo. Obviously I
can be like Dann that dude shouldn't have done that.
But because I played, I know that. It's like watching
a car accident. It happens so fast. Well, my biggest
thing is trying to make a play and all of
a sudden, like crownd is how it goes into someone's face.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Massive you can you can tell, like you've been in
practice in its rap or thud versus live and you
see a guy thud a guy a little too hard
and you're like, oh, here we go. Like you can
tell when somebody's intention with a hit complact with that guy.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What's that? Well, you could know, but I don't. It
comes like saying, because like this, let's say you can
see the intention of a hit with the two or
the three, and you.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Want to show that, hey, I was there to make
that play. I was there to I was inside leverage
to make that block. And I'm trying to prove my spot,
not because I care about Chances are no one's watching
me that play because I'm I'm blocking or.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm but it's gonna be on film. It's gonna be
on film. We're gonna watch this thing tonight.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We're gonna watch this thing to warn I need to
show that, hey, I can handle the eleven this situation.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yes, so I agree with you. That happens on time.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What I'm getting to you on this Penn State organ
thing is that was a textbook targeting call in a
high pressure situation that they were like, you just didn't
get called, that's not it was like Bro's direct helmet Tom.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, So here I have a question. He's so hard now, Okay,
I have a question for you guys, Like, what do
you guys think targeting is any sort of head to
head contact with the crown or is it? Or is
it more of intent? I think it's it's both with
the head to the head.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Like like if I'm coming in, like, but it's also
the rules change between a defensive player and a non
defensive player, and two steps is what determines that. So
now you're making it like I'm not even a defensive player, right,
And I'm for defensive guys because they're having to make
a split second decision in less than that split second.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, like and and as a defensive player you have
to you have to be able to protect you yourself too, So.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's such a you you've seen the textbook targeting call
where dudes in the air, defensive players locked and loaded,
left his feet, put his freaking face mask. Right, there's
a battle neck Like there's a there was one a
couple weeks ago that was like completely blatant in you're
like yes, like hey, like this right here fellows this
teach tape of what we're calling targeting for.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But but I also see from a defensive player's position
where it's like, bro, what if I'm I'm a five
to ten safety and I and put everything I have
into that.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
As I'm power cleaning up, smack this dude. Yeah, my
head's at the top of my body. I'm gonna have
some contact there, man. Yeah, that's I feel like there
needs to be that's the thing. You can't have discretion,
but you need dispression ray area. That's tough part. You
can't get hit and blurting on the line.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Because I saw a play the other day where I
was probably two weeks ago block kick guy picks up
the kick, comes around and got absolutely obliterated by some
dude coaches on the signing Like that's targeting, Like that
is proper targeting, Like why are we not calling it
because it wasn't in the form of past being thrown catch,
catching hit defense. It was very flowing and like this
(17:34):
dude was defenseless, already had somebody at his feet and
he got absolutely decleted. But it's like, Okay, I would
watch that and say that was targeting, and then watch
one later the day and be like, why the why
did the flat gets thrown there?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, So I want to move on from this topic.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
But sure when somebody when somebody has on their hands
but they're in the air, they're defenseless. Yeah, I think
it's I think if you have the ball in your hands,
you cannot be deemed the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's but back that puts us back in the old
school ball day, where like I'm not saying you're not
throwing the ball over the middle because if that kid
leaves his feet, he's gonna get.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, and Tom Brady has a great point that that
quarterbacks better position.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
My only thing is if as it just don't go
and try to destroy the guy make a clean tackle.
I don't know they're take his legs out. Yeah, but
then but then how do you how do you make
a play to get to break the ball, break the
pass up when he has in his hands. We've seen
so many times where a guy hits a clean hit
ball comes out, it's incomplete. It just makes it so.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think it's gonna be one of those things that
we it's just about forever and ever until it. Yeah,
they like just say we don't get to play tackle
football anymore exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's where it's going. Well.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Speaking of contacts, Lane Kiffen made contacts on Twitter this week.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Multiple times following an ole Miss win.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Where are the lunch pill? Guy's stock is high on
ole Miss right now?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I want to I want to put it out there
and say that months ago I was asked, yeah, who
you taking perennial front runner stark Horse, Oh, Miss Baby, Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It looks four and oh we're ranked top four.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I like it is in his in his chat GBT
textbox texting people at two o'clock in the morning letting
him know.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
A lamp baby situation. Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Lane Kiffin's daughter does a hard launch the week of
Oh we talked about this? Oh yeah that she is
dating Wit Weeks, who's the stud linebacker for Allisu?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Okay, was that plan did? Did they did? Is this
like a marketing plan? I want to plan. I want
to know what he.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Thinks, yes, it was planned.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
They're not cooking at that high highway level between witweeks
his daughter and Lane.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
No Lane, No, no, No.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Lane is the type of dude who's like, probably they've
I'm sure they've been dating a long period.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's what I said too, especially if they they know
each other. It's not like they've gone on two days.
They're hard launching to totally smokes. You're ripping the words
out of my mouth talking for a little bit of time.
I agree today's day and age.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
If you're gonna hard love, if youre gonna put your
chick or your guy on Instagram, you guys, your boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, especially with the high profile of both of them. Sure,
of course, So I think it was a hard launch.
I think it was to bring a little little zest
to the game. Lane probably ate that up.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And you know what if he was asked directly, you know,
black and white, like how long have you've been dating
this guy?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
With dating your daughter?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But I'm sure he likes with what seems like a
very likable guy.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I was gonna say gonna.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I would be fired up if I was the head
fotball coach and of the best Linebass in the country
loves football and hunting.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's about it. Like, that's really what he said. He likes.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But like we talked about, is dating Lane's daughter, so
he he's winning the war. But Lane won the battle.
He won the game. And on Twitter what made wit
Weeks puke in the third quarter? I wonder what Lane
fed in like and he could have responded, you know,
don't eat the.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Chicken falls in the same line of what he commented,
win over take the like how which I did? I
want to I want to know. I know I need
to note that that tweet was sent out at like
three am Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, he was decompressing. My man was decompressing.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He didn't have anything other to worry about after winning
the Magnolia Bowl fishing.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You know, Saban saying posting something, but he's and he's
scrolling Twitter because that's where he's at life.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
He loves hitting it there. He loves getting on Twitter
and seeing what's good. What I'm saying. I loved it.
I love I love that he's just out here, like
to random people or to random posts. I wasn't like.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Random, No, that was some random dude that posted that
picture in said, I about spit my coffee out and
just looks down on the coast, a tempo bie like
you can't like if I'm in that locker room, if
I'm on that team, like I'm doing whatever I can
for Lin Kiffin, like I'm going, I'm trying to go
twelve and oh this year, I.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Think it get to the bold. Baby. It makes me
laugh my ass off because there's been games where that's
almost been me and have like your our friends, like dad,
who's the head coach of the team that just beat you.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, I got to give the a little little little
shoulder chick little chit music everyone. Yeah, but I'm just
perfectly appropriate, respectful, laugh about it.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Move on.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I just kind of I just, you know, not to
stay on the whole mistrain. But I just love where
their program's at right now. They're coming off great year
last year. Okay, obviously they would have loved make to
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They didn't. Didn't make that happened a little bit, had
three lost team.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Right, there were some competitive teams last year, but went
into the portal, got to they have some big games,
went and found themselves a great quarterback. Okay, he does.
He's actually technically their backup. Let's not forget about this
for a second. Like he's was routed as being their
backup Chamberliss has come onto the scene and really kind
of broke it down in the sec Yeah, I'm excited
to see where they're going. They're throwing all ups on
(22:47):
the sideline when they're up forty Young Lane Kiffen's over
here doing whatever he came to beat to the boys. Like,
I couldn't be more fired up on where the Fighting
Rebels are headed for this season.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
They got a little galling here. Let me let me
name off the dude they have the victim. Dude here,
give me some victory. They got some big games they
got to buy this week. They got Washington State. It
should be a whax easy they got.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
They go to Georgia, They go to Oklahoma, Georgia, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
They play South Carolina. That looks like they're picking up
the little steam again. The Heisman needs to be bad.
They play the Citadel good rep. I like that game
they played Florida. Then they finish up with Mississippi State
rivalry game and State is pretty damn good. They're they're
they're on a game to watch this weekend for myself.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
But this is this like some unfolding, like like what
you're saying, your dark horse team, if they can win
these games, the scenario ale miss is number one of
the country.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, there is in those silky baby blues too. I
can't wait to see the graphic when they're.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Number one, sexiest, top five, sexiest, number one ranked team ever.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Uniform no, their uniform swag and just honestly, I was
talking to pop about that day, like their atmosphere, their stadium,
like you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Guys played there right there, like I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I believe that I was a true sophomore playing against
Robert Camdchi at the time. It's the first football game
that I ever went to and played in and was
like different out here, different out here in Oxford.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And the libraries. We need a library places. It's just
it's what it should We got one of close. It's
what it should be. It's what college football should be.
You thousand cheap shots.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Cheap beers, honky talk man, just like and they want
your kid to have a college experience, send them to
a place like illness and they and they dressed the nines.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Love that Like I remember, like I was sitting there,
couldn't hear at my center's yelling at me, And I
look up and there's just a couple of broods in
a nice sun dress, couple of dudes in their nice
button up shirts with their tie like all the frat
boys are looking all fresh and tight.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm like, okay, boys, who is it's your team of
the week.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That is kind of on the sleeper, But and be
top ten very soon if they're not already, or deserve
a little more respect.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I got one, I got one, I got two. They
played each other last week, Texas.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Tech beat in Utah. In Utah, it was a hard
place to play.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm thinking Utah said, Utah comes back this week and
makes a statement win.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
They look good and listen, they should win the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That being said, Texas Tech people don't know this have
one of the most expensive.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Rosters in collegere Yeah right now, yeahday.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
They've made it very clear they got they have to
spend above market price because they got to convince people
to be at their games. They look, we were talking
about this last week like it was. It really is
a testament, right them going in and beating Utah like
Utah is. We've talked about them. They're a perennial winning team.
It was a tight game. It was close. They ended
up pulling away at the end, but it was a tight,
(26:00):
tight game where where Tech Tech pretty much was the
first time I've watched them since the Patrick Mahomes era
actually finished the game and win the way they need
to win. Put their you know, forty five million dollars
roster on on a pedestal and say go win us
this game right now.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So it's it's me very interesting to see. Are you
saying who are you saying?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
There? You saying it's Texas Tech? Is your needs more
needs some more love or Utah needs some more love.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I think Utah sees Texas Tech again with with with
the with WILLI hamm that coach, like, I think I'm
gonna take Utah.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's by dark Horse getting the playoff. Wow, noise, I
mean they just routed West Virginia. Yeah, I like that.
I like that. My I would say mine is definitely
gonna be Mississippi State. He's there to make a run.
They're in the SEC. They're in the SEC. They're four
and one.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
They have a hell of a game ahead of them
this weekend against Texas Texas A and m Okay text
A and M also has been on a pretty good
run there ranked they've wanted. They've won some games that
they've snuck out and needed to win. But I'm liking
the way Mississippi State's playing ball. Like they're flying around there.
But they're when I was selling you a couple of
weeks ago, like SEC football looks a little different, right,
(27:08):
scoring a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I like.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I think they look more like traditional SEC. Like they're
playing hard nosed defense. They're scoring the points when they
need to, Like they're getting the ball in scoring points,
they're not getting stalled out, and they're not giving up
a bunch of points.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Right, They're playing good football. Looks good. I would love
to see them go on a little sneaky run.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But hey, good luck if they run an ole miss
because they're gonna get just molly WAPs.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
All right. This is and we talked about this last week.
I'm not the biggest Pavia fan, I'm not, but he
has swagged. He has swag.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
They have a big game and and I'm not talking
about dark Cords for the rest of the season, but
to get into the top ten. I think that's who's
gonna find a way to get it done. I don't
want to see kaln Wor loose because I think he's
gonna get fired if he doesn't make it to the
play a deep run into the playoffs. But I think
I think Vandy they just they just have something brewing
(28:04):
over there that it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Just does Fandy beat Bama this week.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, I think Bama was. I think that was about
to go around. Yeah, I think about going to around
the fighting grubbies. They're gonna start running more bubble bullet
with offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
No, okay, because Bama would have been my my pick
if they weren't already in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I feel like you can't pick Bama. What do you mean, dude?
Did you see them lose the floor State?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
That was that was last year, brother Roster. No, No, no,
that was this year. That was the first game they
looked really bad and right now they look really good.
Did you look into the stats on that game? Though?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Huh, it was hot, it was muggy, it was rainy.
Nobody cares it is. It is a testament to look
at the way that they've produced. Yeah, hey, we're a podcast.
There's some things that you're gonna look into if that can.
Look at what they did the next game, the next Yeah,
but look at that. My thing, my thing, my thing,
my thing was look at the effort. Don't even look
at the stats. The effort was just terrible.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
This is also a little bit of bulletin board week
for for Bama.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think Pavia has uh.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Literally built a reputation off of beating Alabama yea last year.
He's writing off of beating out like he's putting himself
in a Manziel category.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
See Okay, I'm I'm gonna stop that right there. Don't
They're not even in the same Johnny Manziel and Diego
Pavia are not even in the same are you are you?
You can't even sit here and there.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
He thinks that he's in that tier and some people
are just mentally delusional confidence put I'm gonna put a
eat my own words alert up because if Diego Pavia
goes and beats Alabama.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And goes on a run, go on a run.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
If he beats Alabama twice in three years, I don't
know if anybody has done that.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Bennett ben behind a no who hate de Shaun Watson
quarterback Clemson. Did he beat him twice?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think so, okay, that's also natty, that's natty material.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
This is a bandy team. Diego Pavia did bring Vandy
back there five and zero.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm just saying, like, I think, also, hot take Diego
Pavia beats Spama this week and he has a good game,
like a little three touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, are you saying Heisman talk front runner? Wow? Hot
take something?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I think that's I think that's whoa. I missed that.
That was over here trying to look at the roster
of another team. Clip it, but like, dude, don't even
think that that man's in the top runner of a Heisman.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
He beats if he and and he's the reason they
beat Vanma. Diego Pavia should be the Heisman frontrunner.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We're gonna have to take the Heisman off the dock
and the best player in the country if if Diego pop.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Most popularity though popular.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Who makes the most noise on Instagram gets to the
Heisman trophy, Like that's.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
What it's going We should make there should there should
like we've had we've had this conversation. He's a Yeah,
I think gents should have want to. I think gent
T should have wanted to.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Neither hit or there anyways, here moving on another team
that I'm thinking of, Sleeper that I would love to
see going a run. Virginia. Yes they need big win.
MoU Fassa died like that. Okay, like we need to
we need to talk about this for a second. Talk
a little bit about crowd control, little fan control.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
To that video the field I've ever seen in my life.
They were they were standing there on the sideline ready
to rock at the mouth, like ready to do and
they didn't even they didn't even signal incomplete or interception
or anything that people were the halfway on the field. Game.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh yeah, and three of those fellows absolutely just get
lost in the masses.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You have shoulder pads and helmets on.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
There's a good chance you got stampeded out and died.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Okay, I texted you right away. So this is what
Fasa died. What is it?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
What does it feel like when you.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Just you just go out in the front yard all
I'll explain with that.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
No, I'm talking about emotionally. I know what it feels
like to get trampled on. Okay, I don't not at
that tier.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It was level, like you're at the bottom of a
pile and the play still happening and you're like, get
like a little one two, Like I still have a
store by cap from that like fifteen years ago. But
guess what that And it's not only are you getting
stamped on, you just lost got upset in double over time,
double over It was.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
No, it was it was. It was a dramatic game.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I got the schedule, I have the game, but it
was double overtime, double overtime.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, lost, And I don't know if they got the
same magnitude as like a Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
No, I don't think they do. I think that was
a fun win.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
But I was like, I'm looking at their ros right now.
They're four and one. They beat down of Coastal. Then
they went and lost to NC State by four. That
it was that's not like it's not it's not a
great loss, right, but you go and beat William Mary
that's a nice little gimme, beat Stanford, beat Ford State.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
They got Louisville up on the weekend this weekend, Like
that's a sleepy that's a sleepy good game.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
And then it goes so it goes Louisville, Washington State,
North Carolina, col Wake, Forest, Duke, Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
But I don't know if they play anybody big enough
to like, really they went them up.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But if they win out but yeah, I guess the
dark dark horse to go to the playoff. No, but
what I'd love to see Virginia like sneaking in the
top fifteen. Yes, after I'd love to feel that. Let's
go at first year.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Let's just brush on one bad bad beat, bad beat
of the day. Does UCLA win a game this year?
They got Penn State this week. Okay, I've already looked
at it.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
The only two teams I think they can be is
Michigan State or Maryland.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
In my opinion, think the I think they could get
after Nebraska. Maryland's port out. Yeah, out of Wisconsin, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know if they I think it's a Michigan
State is a winnable game. I think Nebraska is a
winnable game. Maia, I don't think Nebraska is a winnable game.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
When I went and watched Nebraska Cornhuskers, They're gonna just
dog UCLA.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
In my opinion, I want to see, you know, obviously,
look they lost to New Mexico, they fire their coach,
intrim coach Tim Skipper, Tim Skipper of the program.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Hey, hey, Kevin Coyle, let me just throw that.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Shot out there. I think they have defensive coordinator. Yeah,
they they can do some rebuilding.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But I was like, we we we like all those coaches, right,
we liked them. Did they give us a lot of
success when they coach our program here nor there?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Okay? But neutral you get a brand. I want to
I want to mount Watch Championship with them.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
So I'm happy I'm talking about fotcha. Okay, brother, Hey,
don't take it personal. It's okay. We're all dogs here. Well,
I'm not taking a personal cla barely losing in Northwestern Northwest.
It's not that good of a team, but it shows
me a little bit of a shimmer of like, okay,
maybe an interim staff with with a skip and a
couple of guys that we know they could rally again.
(34:45):
They could rally a game or two here. Okay, I'd
love to see him win four or five. But in
the realists of the world, like I think, did they
go get absolutely tapped by Indiana?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is Medio the saddest guy in culture. No, he's making
a lot of money. Well, yeah, I think he brought
the competitor and obviously is distraught. Is it though? This
is a problem.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
This is a problem with Dan age Man and I
al when guys start running, I think chasing dollars because
you have no idea whether he's actually competitively in there
in the brain.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You would hope that he is, well, he has some
sort of competitiveness in him or else he just wouldn't
play a sport that you go out on the field
you want to win, you want you Yes, no doubt.
Now now does does that?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Does does him being distraught over not winning a single
game and kind of looking like a dummy for leaving Tennessee?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Uh? Outweigh the two million dollars or whatever he got.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I think it's a great example to the rest of
the college football landscape. Grass aint always greener.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Fact, it's green where you water it, and uh, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
The difference between getting paid These are numbers I'll pulled
out of my ass. Uh, do you want to be
on a top twenty five Tennessee team that's relevant in
the playoff with a sick environment every week?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Getting paid two million dollars? Or do you want to
make two point three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
At a five thousand person empty Rose Bowl Stadium.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'll tell you where I'd want to be. You don't
be too saying it like the grass is not always
green hurt. And I think that's a good example to
collegeable in general.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I think there will hit a point where, you know,
if you're making fifty grand and someone offers you five
hundred grand, go.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Take the breast. I'm taking the extra zeros.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
But I think if it's if you're already in the
two million and you're you want to two three, you
kind of got a weigh your odds because now not
only are you yes, you're making money up front. Also
I don't know how that works from a tax perspective.
Is that considered ever?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, that's all. I mean, they're all tending what I'm saying,
like so.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, but like he's getting taxed, he's getting California tax right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, so did he do the math California tax? Probably
when to see taxes? I mean hopefully I would have that.
Hopefully that table.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
We got into these conversations like when I was in
it of being like hopefully a guy at that number
has hired a team to help him. Somebody, some manager,
some accountant, whatever, right, some situations is getting looked at
to make sure that he understands that he most likely
lost the hell of a lot more money going to
UCLA than he would have been keeping to his that Tennessee,
(37:17):
that's an interesting that's an interesting thing that some of
these you know, schools that are in no income, no
income state taxes, right like California should.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
UNOV should be a very attractive place. Yeah,
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