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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, all right, all right, welcome back to Bring
the Juice.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm your host, Frank Delane.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're still out here in Santa Monica today on the
third story on the Penthouse third story with kJ Castello. kJ.
Welcome to Britty Jews.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Frank, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And my friend, long time coming.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I think we're trying to at least like together for
four to six months.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's been crazy, but football Seaton was in.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
There were football guys. Life happens, you know. I had
a kid in that realm, so that kind of please
thank you. Let's just start off hot right, went to Stanford,
ended up last year going to Mississippi State. Let's start
with high school. Okay, you're a highly recruited guy, yep,
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going and experiencing you know, things like the Elite eleven,
the opening and whatnot. Not many people got to do that,
especially at the quarterback position. Being a highly recruited high
school quarterback. What was that early initial pressure like coming out?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh man? So going back to high school? Uh so?
I graduated in twenty sixteen. I played, So I played
my first year, started on varsity sophomore year of high
school for the old famous Harry Welsh Harry Walsh was.
I won three state titles at three total different schools.
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His second year at San Marita. I don't know if
you remember Johnny Stanton River cray Craft. Johnny Stanton was
like Gatorade player theague ever went to Nebraska. He ended
up graduating and I came in started on varsity sophomore year.
You know, in the Trinity League modern day Saint John
Bosco surveyed the dogs. They say the number one league
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in the country forever. Hey, so I always tell people this.
For my first experience of varsity football was We're playing
bish Vermont at bisch Mmont, my first start as a sophomore,
and literally for kickoff happens touch back. We get the
ball on the twenty first play, fake drawl, big post, touchdown,
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eighty yard bomb bomb, defense goes stops three and out kick.
They kick it back to us. Touch back on the
twenty same play, except post from the slot instead of outside,
eighty yard bomb. Welcome to high school football. Two for
two for one hundred and eighty yards over two touchdowns.
Let's go. Thought I had it all figured out. I
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literally proceeded that game to throw five interceptions. We lost
the game on a scoop and score bubble screen that
I threw like on the back shoulder. Dude dropped it
scoop and score to the house to lose the game
through like four hundred and fifty yards five iron tis
so real quickly, I was like humbled for the start
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of the game. That was kind of a I would say,
like a like representation of that year. Like week two,
after that game, you play Bishop Gorman, the fame Randall
Cunningham Son. Randall Cunningham junior was playing quarterback. Bishop Gorman
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was like number twenty in the country. We played him
out Saddleback College and you know, so we had a
senior who was a stud who I beat out in
summer camp, but went at home week two against Bishop Gorman.
Start the game two iron ts, one pick six, another
iron t. So I'm in for seven iron ts in quarters,
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sixth quarters, and I'll never forget this is like what
shaped my career. Uh. It was literally the start the
first drive of the second half. They ended up punting
and pinning us down to like the two yard line,
and we like did it. Walsh was famous for like
the wedge, the quarterback sneak. We I always told people
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this our average line. Wait, that year they went Alabama
SC Santa Rid to high school. Three twenty five ATBAMA,
three twenty at SC, we were averaging three seventeen on
the line.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Three seventeen on a high school football team average.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
The Max Turk, you know, Ip, but he went to
UH played center at USC for four years, started as
a true freshman. The Riley Sorenson played four years center
at Washington State. Daane Crane u dub like. We sent
all five guys d one, So I was pretty lucky.
We had an incredible O line at the time. Anyways,
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fast forward that season to get into you know, the
end of sophomore year. Had a great year with a
lot of highs and a lot of lows. Yeah, and
you know, I didn't really know exactly what's gonna happen.
Put the huddle tape together, sent it out. All of
a sudden, I'm seeing them Malik Henry's getting offers. I
don't know if you remember Leek Henry he went to
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He went to West Like he was the number one
kid in the country in twenty sixteen. And then it
was like Shaye Patterson, Jacob Easton, who all we're talking
to earlier who I'm living with now, and then myself,
and so I guess the start of the recruiting journey
was literally like two weeks after the season ended. Yeah,
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I get a call from Florida State from Jimbo Fisher.
So from Tim Brewster. Actually it's like a famous tight
end coach, like been in the game for twenty five
plus years, and he goes, hey, we're thinking about coming
out to watch in the spring. We love your tape,
blah blah blah. I'm like, oh, this is awesome. Started
talking a little bit at Miami coach Cooley Tennessee, butch
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Jones went to the SC camp and then like two
weeks after that call from Brewster, literally at like six am,
I get a call from Jimbo Fisher. They just won
the Natty.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, Jamis is leading February.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Jamis was there, and he goes, hey, you know we're thinking,
we were thinking we're gonna wait to come see you throw,
but we want to get an early jump on you.
We went off of your scholarship before State. And this
was after like like my highlight tape was incredible, but
I had a lot to clean up Junior year and
so I was like, wow, like, I guess I'm not
playing hoops. I'm not playing baseball, like I just got
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my first offer, like I got a chance to play.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm a football guy.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I was a football, baseball, basketball, and wanted to play
golf too. In high school, I wanted to do it
all in the Trinity League. That didn't exactly hold up.
The basketball coach was trying to figure out if my
porty was basketball, Welts was trying to figure out if
my party was football. And so I decided after sophomore
year that it was all ball, all football. So whatever.
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Florida State, Miami, Tennessee was my first three offers, like
a couple of weeks into offseason going into junior year, right,
so did the whole seven on seventh Circuit had an
awesome team. I don't know if you're I'm any of
these guys, but like Dylan Crawford, Cocoa Crawford number two
wide on the country, we're gonna go to school together.
He was actually living with my family in Santa Margarita.
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He transferred to San Marita for a senior year because
the old famous Kyle Sweet was one of my best
friends to this day was like my slot for two years.
Went to Washington State and we needed another stud, so
Dylan came down. In the offseason, I was with Tyler
Vaughn's if you remember him at SC, Trayvon Sidney, both
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SC guys. Anyways, flash forward through junior year, had a
solid junior year. We lost to Saint John Bosco and
for a league with Josh Rosen and Jalil Wood Dude
and Nigel Hale and Damian Mama and eleven other d
one guys. And then that off seasons kicked off the
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Lead eleven, which is crazy. That's where I met Skinny Easton.
We were down in uh doing the whole Nike Headquarters thing.
I mean, the Legal eleven was probably my favorite thing
all time, and nowadays it's not the same. Well, I
mean they had ESPN was dialed in. I mean I
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watched it every year. It was the same whole thing.
I guess I'm not exactly sure, but I think ESPN
dropped it and they were just doing their own afterwards.
But anyways, the Legal eleven was awesome. That brought me
into like my junior summer and you know, typically the
quarterbacks trying to figure out where they're going to go
because the dominoes are falling. Guys are committing Easton or
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had already committed to Georgia. I was basically came down
to My top three was Michigan, Bama, SC, and I
guess top four s C and Stanford. It was crazy time, Like, uh,
you know Sarkesian was the head coach at the time.
Uh he I wore number three for Carson Palmer. Shout
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out to Carson Palmer was like the ball boy at
San Margarita High School and Carson was playing way back
in the day New Jordan Palmer forever, just like so
kel guy. I'll never forget. I was literally at SC's
practiced with Sam Darnald. He was going into his senior year.
I was going into my He was going in a
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senior I was going into my junior year, and I
was like, dude, like obviously, like I got a lot
of respect for you. We played hoops against each other
our whole lives. Like he was an unbelievable hooper.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Sam Donald's unbelievable hooper.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Dude. He had We played AU. We played an AAU
hoops game and he had nine threes in one game.
I'll never forget it was he a corner, got just
a corner. He was he just he has he said,
a quick trigger and like he was all over the place.
I don't know how the hell he had this kind
of jump shot, but it was. It was impressive. So anyways,
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he literally I tell him there, I'm like, hey, dude, like,
are you going to sc or not? Like Ricky Town
at the time was committed. We all knew. I mean respectfully,
we kind of knew, Like I guess Ricky had de committed,
so we're I was like, dude, like, I'm my mom
went to CE cheerleader there for two years, and like
I want to go to see him. Like, dude, if
you commit, like I'm probably you know, it's like the
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Josh Rosen thing. It's like he commits to u c.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
L ably, probably not going to go to.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
U c l A and and deal with it when
like you could find another situation within four of your
top spots. So anyways, Sarkeshian was a coach. I was
going on my official visit at Stanford. McCaffrey was my host.
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He was a true freshman. He was not playing at
the time, and to be quite honest, he was he
was pretty pissed. I mean, he's an ultimate competitor. I mean,
I'll talk about him later, but he's like, in my opinion,
he's you know, they call him the white Lotus. He's
just all around most talented human being, you know, on
a piano, on the keys, can rap in the can
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wrap in the locker room better than the rest. Typically
us don't, but that's not our that's not our forte.
But he you know, comedy show down at the Rose Bowl,
he gets upstaged, gets on stage, does a bit like
blows everyone out of the water. Like he was just
like all time. So anyways, long story short, I was
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going on my official to Stanford. Coach Shark calls me
because he knows I'm going on my official. He's like, hey, man,
I got uh maliek Henry, uh Dad and himself called
and said they want to come to see next week.
And uh I think they're going to commit. He's like,
will you do me a favor and like commit to
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me right now silently so I can tell them I
already have a commit and go to Stanford, have a
horrible time, and we'll make it public on Monday. So
I'm like, wow, this is crazy. Okay, so I silently
commit to what's a silent commit It's basically, hey, coach,
I'm on board. We're going, but we're not making a
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public I'm not posting, he's not posting. Twenty four to
seven ain't gonna say anything. Rivals ain't gonna say anything.
So I was like, all right, well let's do it. So, dude,
I go to Stanford, and respectfully, I could candidly be
candid about all of this because I'm done.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Now and this is why we have to bring the juice.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Dude. So I go to Stanford. McCaffrey's my host. Coach
Shaw had this thing that was like, basically he had
his roadmap. If you're Andrew Luck, if you're Kevin Hogan,
if you're McCaffrey, it doesn't matter who you are, you're
gonna red shirt the offenses West Coast Bill Walsh old
school terminology, hardball, like new language, so like for a
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freshman to play, because we don't take early in rollies,
you're not gonna be able to learn the language and
time to like play freely. So he wanted you to
red shirt, go through a cycle, get your schooling diald in.
So you're not stressing about class. I guess, looking back
on it, somewhat selfishly before this nil era, before the
transfer portal, before being able to transfer, not set out,
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he had the sauce, the secret sauce, because he would
keep Trent Murphy, Shane Scove, the Castro, Solomon Thomas till
for four years, you know, because if your red shirt,
you're probably gonna play two maybe three, so you're gonna
be there for most guys were playing four years before
they go to the draft. So anyways, I got there
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and McCaffrey wasn't playing, Sally wasn't playing, and they were
who I was hanging out with, and they were like
super sour like Sall He's like, I shouldn't went to Texas.
McCaffrey's like I should have went to Oregon and Stanford.
Everybody knows who went there. Like freshman year is supposed
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to be corn I know, Buds Navy Seal like where
you just get absolutely smoked. Yeah, because they are not
planning on playing anyone. They want to build you up.
They want to break you down and then build you up.
Coach Turley Andy Ward, Yeah, so Andy Ward, I know
the program staff.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I know the program, part.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Of the Turley lineage. Shannon Turley, I've told people this
forever was literally the best strength coach in the world.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I've heard this many times.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
And so long story short, going back to the whole
deal of my commitment was I go to Stanford and
McCaffrey and saw you are like, dude, you got Texas,
you got Bama, you got Michigan, you got sc on
the table. Take it. Yeah, And I was like, I
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want to Stanford like and so respectfully, long story short.
Keller Chris Paul, Chris's nephew coach, you know, was I
think he was oc at uh Niners for a bit
and then head coach at Wisconsin. He was number three
quarterback in the country in twenty fifteen, so the year
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before me, no, sorry, twenty fourteen. So he was slotted
to be the guy when Hogan left, and that was
Keller or sorry, that was McCaffrey and Solomon's guy, right,
So I couldn't tell if they were someone trying to
detour me because that's their guy exactly, Like they're not
gonna say, hey, come on in, you're gonna be our guy,
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right like, So I was kind of thinking about that
a little bit like if that was a little of
their bias and whatnot. Right, long story short, I go home,
Sarks calling, Hey, how bad was your visit? And we're talking.
It ends up not being that Monday. It bleeds into
the next weekend, and the next weekend is the Troy
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event where Sark goes on stage, and for whatever it's worth,
everyone knows what happens there. He gets put on leave
and I'm sitting there like Sarks on leave. I didn't
have the greatest visit on the planet to Stanford. They're
like Sarks on leave, I didn't have the greatest visit
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on the planet to Stanford. I'm probably gonna go check
out Bama. In Harball's calling, he's on his second going
into his second year. Harball lands. Two weeks later on
we're running seven on seven at San Margarita to CoA Crawford.
He changed his name, Dylan Crawford was one of my
best friends who I got to transfer to Stanford or
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sorry to San Marita. Number two wide out in the country,
absolute beast. Harball comes in and lands a helicopter on
the fifty yard line at your practice. At practice with
Jed Fish and Tim Drebno and Harball, I mean three coaches.
They had a top five recruiting class the year before.
He's like, hey, let's create the wave. Be on the
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front end of the wave with me. Let's take you
and Dylan and let's go to work. So that day
it was crazy. I followed this whole day. He lands
at San Margarita, comes in and says, hey, I know
Brady Hoke offered you too. I want to do it
formally with me here now and want to let you
know like we really want you. Obviously, the Stanford Ties
we're gonna run very similar type system. I know you're
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interested in that, and so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
take a step back and postpone and reevaluate for a
little bit, right, So I reevaluate for you know, probably
a month and a half, two months, and then like
seasons coming around, like June's coming around before my senior season.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A little bit of a rewind. But in the Rose
Bowl that year before my senior season, Stanford's playing Iowa. Yep,
I'm in Mammoth. Like my family would go up there
skiing every year, and I wasn't skiing. I was just
hanging out at the cabin while they're all skiing, and
Shop calls me in the morning and I got the
rose bul on and he's like literally on the phone.
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I could see him on the screen. He's walking around
the field. You can see David Shaw on like pregame walk.
He calls me like an hour and a half before
kick Wow, like they're kind of out there.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You could see him.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I tell people that was the most risk that was.
That was literally what like the the the quantum physics,
the energy of me, like pulling the trigger at Stanford
was all around this, Right. So I'm sitting there solo
at a cabin, it's snowing out. I got the rose
bull on, I got my cup of Joe, and I'm
talking to Shaw and he's telling me about the game plan.
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He's sim of this and that he's talking about first play, Uh,
you know, lookout for McCaffrey three by one into the boundary,
which was one of our go to plays with me
with Bryce Love and other guys with literally three scat
hockey stick to the field, basic you know, little stick
route basically clearing out the front side, clearing on the backside,
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and McCaffrey's one on one with the will let him go.
You know, if the mic pushes to the field, he
heelt one on one, so literally first play the game
sticks him inside house, call gone. So they go hon
to win fifty five seventeen.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That was a great game.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Great game. I watched the whole thing and was like,
that system looks nice for me. You know, great o' line,
great defense. You know, I'm not out here running around
like Lamar Jackson, like I'm trying to go you know,
twenty two of twenty seven with three tuds and get
us in the right run play and make sure we're
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always I mean, Shaw sold me on just meeting wise
with Tavita Pritchard, who's now coaching Jaydon Daniels at the Commanders.
So I'm a huge fan of Tavita, was like, I
feel like responsible for a bunch of my success. He
played at Stanford briefly a little bit before like Nonez
and then Tavita and then Luck came in. Luck took over,
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and Pritchard essentially turned into a coach like with two
years left Stanford young, Like he was a coach that
wore pats. He was lux lux, you know, he was
lux ears eyes and ears at his first two years playing.
So long story short, I'm like, dude, this is a
great setup. I almost pulled the trigger to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Because of the helicopter and all.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I just but I didn't know. I didn't think that.
I thought it was a little riskier because I thought
like Harbo was building, he hadn't built yet, and Shot
just won the Rose Bowl. You know. I was you know,
I was always this serious guy on the school front
out of four to oh my whole time. And so
I was like very interested in intrigued by the Stanford
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degree of course, the Silicon Valley, the dot com boom,
what's going on up there, the visit they take us down,
Page Mill Road, Snapchat, Facebook, Oracle, Hewlett, the whole nine.
And so you're just like, I don't know, this is
kind of interesting, Like it's a total different deal. The
bottom line was, I was like, if I go to Stanford,
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there's gonna be way less distractions. I got, you know, family,
friends and everybody at sc LA, the whole nine. Of course,
I wanted to go up to more of a quiet
place and vest play the long game, and so I
pulled the trigger to Stanford. I will say the last
closing deal was they were they were recruiting. Rosen wanted
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to go there. It was his dream school. And I
was at my freshman year of high school. After my
freshman season, I was at a camp in doing the
whole camp. It was the first camp I ever went to.
It was at Stanford and Rosen shows up. Like the
camp starts at noon. Rosen shows up at two and
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we're like coming around the last circuit to do long toss.
He throws his cleats on, He like warms up on
the side with one of the coaches. Comes into the
line for long toss. There's a line of fifty quarterbacks.
He walks to the front of the line, throws it
like seventy five yards, takes his spikes offs, hanging out
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with his mom, and like goes up to Shaw like
shakes his hand respectfully, like expecting an offer. Yeah, on
an offer yet yeah, Shaw like didn't offer him. And
so that was huge for me because he was a
year ahead of me. Long story short, they go, they
close the deal with me after the Rose Bowl, like
a month later. I think we're in like maybe February March.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I want to get the deal signed before the verbal
before summer camp and they go, hey, we're looking at
Brandon Wimbush. You know, we're looking at a couple other
guys in fifteen, but we only offer one guy, and
if you're willing to pull the trigger, we'll pass on
a twenty fifteen and we'll take you in twenty sixteen.
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And I'm sitting there with my dad, I'm like that
basically guarantees me two years to start. Even if Keller
pans out to be a you know, a hell of
a player like most people expected him to be. You know,
I go red shirt. I maybe sit my second year,
you know, Aaron Rodgers to Brett Favre type, like be patient,
don't cash, yeah, and put on a little bit of size,
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learn find ways that he don't have to make the
rookie mistakes by watching. And so I was like, dude,
this is this is great. So I pulled the trigger
to Stanford. I got kayten Smith to commit, like the
next week we were talking about it. We then went
down the line. We got some other big time commitments.
Some old lineman Nate Herbig who's playing now for the Steelers,
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who's like one of the best guards I've ever seen.
Just bench and squat, you know, the entire weight room basically.
And so anyways, I pulled the trigger to Stanford. Harbo
was still coming. He was still he was still coming hard. Afterwards,
I ended up taking a couple of calls, but sticking
with it. And long story short, that was that was
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kind of the uh. That was kind of the entirety
of the story. I was sold on the fact that,
you know, nobody in twenty fifteen, I got a great lineup.
We had Bryce Love I got to go see and
I knew the line was young. He coach Bloomgren was
our aligned coach. Once again, I speak so highly of
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the staff because I'm like, if I played with them
for ten years, if that was my staff in the
league or anywhere else, it was just a great, great uh.
There was just a great vibe amongst all of us.
They're all super talented. So anyways, that was the that
was the story on pulling the trigger to Stanford.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's sick.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That was a great story.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That could be a pot right there. It's so fa. Well,
before we go past Stanford, you brought up McCaffrey, and
I feel like he got some got some juice for
McCaffrey though, tell me about cmc oh man.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So it was crazy seeing him fre So I was
a junior in high school. He was a true freshman.
I visited during this season his freshman year on a
bye week and he wasn't playing. It was like week six,
and this guy's like the ultimate competitor. He's like, I
should have went to Oregon. I would have been playing
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as a true freshman. Sure enough, he was ready to
go role because he wanted to play in Shaw respectfully.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Like I said, he had his method.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And his method. You know, he's a decade over a
decade he was top five winning as coach. Like he
had his method, and it was just the beginning of
like I feel like athletes starting to kind of understand
their value. Right. It was the early It was just
before and I always kind of kicking off. We were
going to the Steve Clarkson camp like trendsetters, and Clarkson
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had been telling Clarkson was telling me and Eason and
Shaye Patterson, Felipe Franks and Austin Kendall like that was
our class. Yeah, hey, you guys are gonna get paid
your your freshman year, Like you're at least gonna be
able to take brand deals like and I Al's gonna break. Yeah.
So for the Stanford model, that was the biggest threat,
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of course, and what started happening. So so that year,
sticking on CMC, coach Shaw started playing.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Him like week ten, don't want to lose this guy.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Week ten, week eleven. Then he goes to the to
the Foster Farms Bowl and goes for two tuds. He's
wearing number twenty seven, little white guy. I know, you know,
And so that was obviously the start of him. I
was not there at the time. Right flash forward the
next year, I'm there and uh, you know, he's They
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put me right next to him. He's my locker he's
my locker mate, And I mean I have nothing but
like the most utmost respect for the guy. I mean
I was telling you earlier offline, like he just he
does everything the right way. Yeah, I mean we're in
seven on seven team tech. Like if a ball, if
he drop if he drops a ball, like he's dropping
down and giving you twenty He's just like so locked
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in on everything that he does. His training methods were
always insane. He always had the best pt guy. Guy
he was pulling from the San Jose Sharks, you know guys,
he docks. He was pulling from the SF Giants. He
was just always like looking for an edge. But I mean,
you know, he'd pull out the keyboard, he'd pop on
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the keyboard in the locker room. He was one of
the best ping pong players in the locker room. He
can rap better than than the bros in the locker room.
I mean he was He was just an all time
like locker room guy, but also like a guy that
just like demanded respect just based on how he went
about his business. Hell yeah. And so my freshman year
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was pretty incredible. It was like watching every game was
like I would watch obviously the telecast and it was
like the CMC show, you know. I mean, so much
of our everything went through him in our offense, and
we always joke around, but like we had so many
drives like end of game, like Shaw style obviously is
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like let them screw up, but like we're gonna do
our deal and we don't care if they know what
we're running. I mean, we would run power pin Poll
five six times in a row to close games out,
and everyone knew what we were doing and just couldn't
stop it. And then you add in a little play action.
We had Francis A. A wo Sue, we had Michael Rector.
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This was Keller's first year, so we're coming off a
little bit of a low relative to Kevin Hogan. But dude,
I mean he was just I mean I remember him
going down to the Heisman that year and like spending
time with Drake, and like he was just I mean,
he would get more fan mill than anyone I've ever seen.
He'd get he'd get he'd get uh, containers of like
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like white containers of like different kinds of protein and
whole nine, like raw milk, protein, like powder from Bill Romanowski. Nice,
you know longest yard. You know, see you in your
pedaguana practice Romanowski. So, uh, dude, he just I don't know,
he had an obviously unbelievable support system, like with his
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dad doing what he did, and and you know, he
kept his circle real tight. He was. He was just
one of the most like locked in dudes that I've
ever seen, you know, And and week in and week out,
we we really didn't change. We had we had the
old line, we had the the backfield, where like we
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didn't have to change anything. Like he was dude, he
was carrying us solely, and so yeah, I mean that's
a little semac love were the only thing I know
I got him, and it is on the golf course.
Oh I think. I think it's pecks and and buys
are a little too big. It's a little hard for
him to turn on it, you know. But that's about
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the literally the only thing I think that I confidently
would walk into and I feel like I have the
upper hand.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
What's the last time you played him?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh? Well, I was supposed to. Well, we were. I
went to the NFC title last year, and you know,
he said, we're gonna play a little offseason. He's had
a couple you know, rough off seasons, just training, like rehabbing. Actually,
so he we haven't he hadn't played. Yeah, I don't
think he's played golf in two years. But I'll get
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him out there this offseason hopefully if he's feeling all right. Yeah,
there he goes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, before I go into the switch to Mississippi State,
what was your favorite Stanford memory?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Oh? Man, So, I mean my favorite games? Would I
mean obviously starting with Oddson Stadium my junior year, you know,
so so I my red shirt junior year. So after
my red shirt sophomore season, my second year playing, had
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a great season. We started four and oh we're playing
Herbert on the road at Oregon College Game Day. We're
five in the country, they're seven in the country. They
got me on the mel kiper board with Burrow and
Tua and Herbert, myself and whoever, probably Jacob Eason, I
don't remember. Thirty two scouts, every team represented at the game.
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You realize, like once you actually start getting the flow
of college, like, none of that really matters. I'm not
you're not at all. It really just didn't even come
into the picture. But we were finally getting rolling, like
we were getting the Stanford Stadium filled out, which is
you know we call the Standard Library.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I know, I've been to a game or two there.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I mean, you know, you gotta win at Palo though.
It's a little bit like an LA team. You know,
there's so much going on, like you gotta be on
a chance for the Rose Bowl or the or the Dance. Yeah,
and so I guess my favorite game was Week four?
Was it? Yeah? No? Sorry? Was Week four? We were
three and oh on the road at Autsin they were
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three and oh. It was me versus Herb. Herb was
definitely gonna go to the draft that year. I was
projected to go that year. And we're down twenty I
may butcher this a little bit. I think we're down
twenty seven to seven. We played, I played a good
first half, like we just didn't convert. We had a
bubble in road in zone on the two yard line.
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I throw a bubble in the end zone to my
boy Kyle Sweet. He then goes and throws a twenty
yard dot and then we turn around and throw like
an exchange, which is essentially four verts, and I throw
like an eighty yard touchdown. And that game we were
five hundred and fifty yards five touchdowns. That was like
my coming out party flash four to the UCLA deal.
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We both went three and out twice, and Shaw grabs
him by the face mask and was like, hey, if
you don't handle it right now, like we're going with
Burnsy the rest of the year. Right, So now I'm
talking about this?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Is it right?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
So it's third I'll never third down and five and uh.
One of my best friends in high school, Rick Wade,
is playing d ND. Hey Bobi, he called me Bobi.
He's like Hey, Bobie, you ain't ready for this. You
ain't ready for this, and I have to throw up.
We have a glance on the backside with a little
bit of a play action, and I remember like throwing
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the glance like right through his arms to a snag
and a first down. We went on. We scored eight
drive straight. We bryce loved rushed for two fitty three hundred.
We scored eight touchdowns in a row. We won like
fifty five to fourteen. And the rest of the season.
I did not get sacked for seven straight games. We
went to the Pac twelve Championship, played Sam Darnold and
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Pittman and Biggie Marshall on the rest at Levi Stadium.
And this was my this is my red shirt freshman year,
so my second year of their first year handling bizz
right and dude, we I pull his own read in
the fourth quarter We're down by seven. This is a
little shout out to Kayden Smith missing a block. My
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mass pulls his own read like I'm going to the
pylon and it's just Biggie Marshall because the the X
like ran a post. He comes off of the post
and I'm going to like reach for the pylon. Kayden
misses the block and I go to reach for the
pylon like this and my right thumb goes down into
the turf. The dissocate my right thumb on my thrown hand,
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tear my ligament and my thumb in the pack up
championship and we have like ten minutes to go in
the game. We end up scoring and they get the
ball and I'm on the sideline like coach, I can't.
I can't grip the ball. I can't. You know. That
was my first introduction to the tent. Dude. We ended
up up. I ended up. We ended up driving down
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having a chance to win the freaking game. We're on
like the four yard line and we run s ygl
short yardage goal line. We bring in for our two
tight ends. We bring in two three hundred pounders, and
then we bring a three hundred pounder in the backfield.
And then we got Bryce Love back there or Cam Scarlett. Dude,
we run back to back short yardage goal line. We
get stuffed. We then run a third s y up
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the middle. We get on the one yard We got
a little bit of juice on the one yard line,
half yard line, fourth and goal to go to the
Rose Bowl packed Tulp Championship against Darnald sc where I wanted,
you know, like it couldn't have it all was there,
you know, your first year playing where I started season.
You weren't even playing and I'm signaling to the sideline
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sucker like we have this one famous play. Everyone knows
it in Stanford history, Hogan. It's a Peyton manny, right,
like once a decade or once a season. Yeah, you're
we we do the short mo we have s ygl
they have to go all out on the one yard line, right,
and I wanted to turn around, tuck it in, wave
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at my mom and dad, act like I wasn't doing anything,
and then peel out the backside right walking. This is
a good story. So first year plan, I'm like, do
I do I do I do? Do you do it?
Do I do it? Do I do it? I'm probably
gonna walk in the end zone and throw the ball
onto the stands. Okay, first year start. It's David Shaw.
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It's a very respectfully it's a top down type systems
if I like, everybody does their job and everyone does
what they're told and it and it works most of
the time. We're always in an advantageous play, without a doubt.
We prep harder than anybody else because our coaches we
actually think our edge is cerebral, Like we actually think
we know what blitzes you're bringing every one of our protections,
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every one of our protections. There's not a blitz that
you brought in the last ten years that if you're
a DC that coach Bloomeran doesn't have an answer for. Right,
So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna come out in
a particular formation with a particular motion to let us
know what you're gonna do, because like, if you're in
a certain blitz, we may mow away and now we
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have leverage over here. So either you're gonna check out
of the blitz or we're gonna run a week away
from your strike, right Sam and Nickel or Sam and
might come on strong side. I say all that to
say like we were so regimented, and I was like,
I feel like the like the reason why Hogan and
and and a lot of guys had success at Stanford
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was because it was so structured, but like in the
midst of that structure, like if you can add your
own little like if you could if you if you're
not afraid to like be super structured, then like all
of a sudden, like a couple of the flairs like
give you an exponential edge in particular, do I pull
it or do it? Why so, dude, I I don't
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have a lot of regrets in my life. I'm pretty
all in and everything I do, I guess I did
the right thing.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You called the right play.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
So I come out. I'm supposed to open up straight
to power, so I'll say the whole story. So I'm
back at the line. It's louder Cam Smith, middle backer,
a WUSU first rounder to the Chargers, is coming off
off the right edge and Cam Smith is playing micro
right here. When we go s ygl we call the lion.
We call the play at the line of scrimmage. Vegas
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King West Coast, Vegas King power ninety seven power right.
I've called Vegas King twice so he knows it's at
the line. So I get back to the line and
Shaw's going like this. I'm looking seeing it playing the
mannerisms because I'm not in the huddle right and I'm
seeing Cam look at a woosu and a woosu look
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at Cam and he's going like this, and I'm like,
they know where this is going.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, tell me about your favorite golf shot of your career.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
When I did not research showing you that's one Cole points.
I know you have something pinned on her instagram, that's what.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well actually my mind was going to that,
but I guess that wasn't actually on a golf course. Sure, well,
this was pretty cool. After my sophomore year at Stanford,
you go through the pregame interviews with the different reporters,
and I ended up like making it clear like hey, guys,
if you don't mind, Like when they do the intro
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to the quarterback this first drive of the game, it's like,
you know, they give your face picture, they give your
high school, they give your height and weight, and then
I made sure they put a little bullet point in
there that said scratch golfer. So like probably like ten
times that year because we were always kind of playing
primetime because we had a good season, people would like
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hit me up throughout the year like, no way, you're
a scratch golfer. I don't believe you so, which I am,
and I maybe wasn't at the time because I wasn't
playing golf. Jim Nance did happen to come up to
me at some event and like tell me that he
didn't believe that I was a scratch golfer. And he's like,
I gotta see it live. And so you know, I
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respectfully waited him month to like paying him, but like
send him a note, and he invited me down to
Pebble Beach and we ended up playing and he took
me by his house after and you know, he's got
the Fame Part three in his backyard. That's a replica
of the seventh hole at Pebble where Nance got married.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
And you can see the seventh hole from his house
at Pebble, So you know, it's a it's a turf
Part three in his backyard. And it's literally just me
and him, and I didn't ask for it. He was
just literally the most incredible human ever, so nice, so
down to earth. I'm like flipping wedges and he pulls
out his phone and starts em seeing it as if
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I'm hitting the last shot at you know, the US
Open on Sunday. Yeah, And honestly, the picture, the video
that I posted was first take. It was literally the
first vid and he's like, I don't have to do
another one. I stuck it like five feet like almost
hold it out, and he gave the whole you know,
Jim Nance audio.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Right and so iconic.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I would have to hang that one up. Their shout
out to Jim nantz up top right there with my
I guess my dream force them Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer
and Jim Nance.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
That's pretty good. Are you familiar with juice golf?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm not all right.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I don't know if this is up your alley or not.
So we created juice golf as a segment recently and
bring the juice probably the last what year or so.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
So.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Juice golf consists of a one on one.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
In your case, i'd have a handicap, yeah, because I'm
not a scratch. Yeah, but basically, whoever wins the hole
gets a point. Now each holder is a punishment. Yeah,
there's three punishments. You could either there's four punishments now,
either got a shotgun a beer right then and there
you do your punishment before shot and a beer shot
a fireball, throw a zin in but the catches the
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zins have to accumulate, Okay, so you can't take the
zin's out.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Okay, over the round okay.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
And the fourth most recent added element is we bring
a taser.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Out onto the course.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, take a taser.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Gotta take a taser.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
I'm probably gonna be throwing. So I end up losing
maybe six to ten z en.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
S if you well, you don't get to pick. Oh
you lose, you pick the winner of the hole gets
to pick your punishment. Okay, and uh, it gets pretty.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
What do you plan to what's your index? Eighteen fourteen?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
We've done nines, we've done nine.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Uh, we've had a couple of times we won nine
and like it's pretty even, and we've gone back. Yeah,
eighteen's a little much. Eighteen will get you. Yeah, but
it also just takes so long if you're in that element.
But little nines, man, it's it's good. I'd want I'd
for sure want a couple a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Oh, I'll give you some pops.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
If you if you do come out to president, I'd
love to get you on juice golf.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, I'm down.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
What's the most rowdy you've been on a golf course
playing personally?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Have you hit a hole in one? Oh?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Wow, that's embarrassing that I have to say this on Telly,
But no I haven't. And uh, I mean I've holed
out from one hundred and fifty two hundred yards out
threes on par fives. Done it all? Accept the hole
on one? I mean I've hit I've hit pins, I've
put dents and holes, no balls staying in the hole.
Uh for a true hole on one? I mean, I
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mean I've had hold in one's at part three courses
that I don't count.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
You don't count hold on one a part three course?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
No, no, No, I mean like I feel like anybody,
like any any serious golfer, like he'aln't count it on
you know, a true eighteen hole deal.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
That's a hot take.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, that's a hot take. I don't know it was.
It was in Uh it was like an old MUNI
down here. Yeah, I was like fourteen years old. I
don't know. I've ran around and said that I got
a hold on one. But it's like, hey, nine hole
course like part three that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Count, doesn't count.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
No for all my for all my golfing golf. But
I will say, what does make me feel better? I
think it was justin Thomas twenty nineteen at Augusta got
his first home one at Augusta. But what I'm saying
is it makes me feel better. He shit five hundred
million golf balls and he's he's one of the best
golfers in the world. And yeah, he just got his.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
First home one at night and stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
So maybe, uh, maybe there's some mojo in two K
twenty five. We'll see see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
What's your expectations if you do come to the Bring
the Juice Golf tournament, what's your expectations?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
H Well, I mean I expect to be the gross
champ a little loch. I don't know. I mean, it
depends on who else do you have out there. I mean,
golf is golf, like I mean, if I end up
getting hot, I have a good day, if I have
a good partner. I don't know what the format is,
but you know, I've won a fair bit of golf
at tourneys in my time.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
But yeah, well you win green jackets if you if
you want to.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Bring a Juice calf, I'd hang that green jacket up
in here somewhere.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, it's exclusive. Who is the best for some of
golfers right now in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
You think, oh, if I were to put together for
some of NFL guys, Yeah, well, I've played with Sam Barnold,
Kyl Allen, that was fun. I would say, well, I
definitely would put Josh at Well. I mean it's so
I know a guy Brian Zara, who was a time producer,
put together the Capitol one match who they've done like
nine matches, The Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Aaron and for Good
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who Aaron played with. But you know they've done a
bunch of them. DeVante's good, Aaron's good. I would say, honestly,
like it. I just basically said, it'd be Mahomes, it
would be Josh Allen, and it'd be Aaron rodgers'ble. Yeah. Wow, Yeah,
I'm thinking maybe there's somebody i'd sub for Mahomes like
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I've heard of Thelan's closer to scratch. I've seen him
play at the American Century in Tahoe Adam Thielen. But
Josh plays a lot, he enjoys it. Donald shout out
to Donald having a great year. He's he's a good friend.
We go way back to playing Pop Warner against each
other in AAU hoops. He's getting better at golf, like
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he's kind of just gotten into it in the last
two years. Yeah, Kyle Allen's pretty good. I mean obviously
you got Romo hanging out on the retired crew. Stafford's
pretty good. Matt Ryan's good. Yeah. Quarterbacks and kickers, Man,
the quarterbacks and kickers.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I've heard some kickers who was There was a dude
last year at the.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Pro Bowl games when they did the little game that
was pretty lights out.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
He was a punter for the Cowboys for Theys.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
The punters and kickers are always good. I know a
couple of them myself. I'm trying to think who else.
Well Herbert, I mean, if he'd ever respond to a
text message, maybe we could play some golf. No, but
I'm just kidding. He's last year he had the laborum
so he was out all off season. He can absolutely
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smoke it. I mean he's I could see that. He
h's his foreign like two seventy Yeah, like it's insane. Yeah,
that would probably do it. I know Levis is trying
to play a little bit, but I don't know the
ones that I've seen on television prime to time with
the nerves. The whole is Josh and Mahomes and aaron
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I like it.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
We'll get you guys out there. We need to get
juice golf lined up. We need to get bring juice
golf train lined up. I'm gonna wrap this step up
right now. This has been money, This has been fun.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, kJ Capilla Lady and gentlemen follow him on the gram.
Big things coming, big things come, big things come. Leaving
with that right now, I appreciate you. Bring the juice,
get your hot steak, Greedy.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
We'll see you next week.
All right, all right, all right, welcome back to Bring
the Juice.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm your host, Frank Delane.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're still out here in Santa Monica today on the
third story on the Penthouse third story with kJ Castello. kJ.
Welcome to Britty Jews.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Frank, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And my friend, long time coming.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I think we're trying to at least like together for
four to six months.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's been crazy, but football Seaton was in.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
There were football guys. Life happens, you know. I had
a kid in that realm, so that kind of please
thank you. Let's just start off hot right, went to Stanford,
ended up last year going to Mississippi State. Let's start
with high school. Okay, you're a highly recruited guy, yep,
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going and experiencing you know, things like the Elite eleven,
the opening and whatnot. Not many people got to do that,
especially at the quarterback position. Being a highly recruited high
school quarterback. What was that early initial pressure like coming out?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh man? So going back to high school? Uh so?
I graduated in twenty sixteen. I played, So I played
my first year, started on varsity sophomore year of high
school for the old famous Harry Welsh Harry Walsh was.
I won three state titles at three total different schools.
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His second year at San Marita. I don't know if
you remember Johnny Stanton River cray Craft. Johnny Stanton was
like Gatorade player theague ever went to Nebraska. He ended
up graduating and I came in started on varsity sophomore year.
You know, in the Trinity League modern day Saint John
Bosco surveyed the dogs. They say the number one league
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in the country forever. Hey, so I always tell people this.
For my first experience of varsity football was We're playing
bish Vermont at bisch Mmont, my first start as a sophomore,
and literally for kickoff happens touch back. We get the
ball on the twenty first play, fake drawl, big post, touchdown,
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eighty yard bomb bomb, defense goes stops three and out kick.
They kick it back to us. Touch back on the
twenty same play, except post from the slot instead of outside,
eighty yard bomb. Welcome to high school football. Two for
two for one hundred and eighty yards over two touchdowns.
Let's go. Thought I had it all figured out. I
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literally proceeded that game to throw five interceptions. We lost
the game on a scoop and score bubble screen that
I threw like on the back shoulder. Dude dropped it
scoop and score to the house to lose the game
through like four hundred and fifty yards five iron tis
so real quickly, I was like humbled for the start
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of the game. That was kind of a I would say,
like a like representation of that year. Like week two,
after that game, you play Bishop Gorman, the fame Randall
Cunningham Son. Randall Cunningham junior was playing quarterback. Bishop Gorman
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was like number twenty in the country. We played him
out Saddleback College and you know, so we had a
senior who was a stud who I beat out in
summer camp, but went at home week two against Bishop Gorman.
Start the game two iron ts, one pick six, another
iron t. So I'm in for seven iron ts in quarters,
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sixth quarters, and I'll never forget this is like what
shaped my career. Uh. It was literally the start the
first drive of the second half. They ended up punting
and pinning us down to like the two yard line,
and we like did it. Walsh was famous for like
the wedge, the quarterback sneak. We I always told people
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this our average line. Wait, that year they went Alabama
SC Santa Rid to high school. Three twenty five ATBAMA,
three twenty at SC, we were averaging three seventeen on
the line.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Three seventeen on a high school football team average.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
The Max Turk, you know, Ip, but he went to
UH played center at USC for four years, started as
a true freshman. The Riley Sorenson played four years center
at Washington State. Daane Crane u dub like. We sent
all five guys d one, So I was pretty lucky.
We had an incredible O line at the time. Anyways,
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fast forward that season to get into you know, the
end of sophomore year. Had a great year with a
lot of highs and a lot of lows. Yeah, and
you know, I didn't really know exactly what's gonna happen.
Put the huddle tape together, sent it out. All of
a sudden, I'm seeing them Malik Henry's getting offers. I
don't know if you remember Leek Henry he went to
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He went to West Like he was the number one
kid in the country in twenty sixteen. And then it
was like Shaye Patterson, Jacob Easton, who all we're talking
to earlier who I'm living with now, and then myself,
and so I guess the start of the recruiting journey
was literally like two weeks after the season ended. Yeah,
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I get a call from Florida State from Jimbo Fisher.
So from Tim Brewster. Actually it's like a famous tight
end coach, like been in the game for twenty five
plus years, and he goes, hey, we're thinking about coming
out to watch in the spring. We love your tape,
blah blah blah. I'm like, oh, this is awesome. Started
talking a little bit at Miami coach Cooley Tennessee, butch
(05:43):
Jones went to the SC camp and then like two
weeks after that call from Brewster, literally at like six am,
I get a call from Jimbo Fisher. They just won
the Natty.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, Jamis is leading February.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Jamis was there, and he goes, hey, you know we're thinking,
we were thinking we're gonna wait to come see you throw,
but we want to get an early jump on you.
We went off of your scholarship before State. And this
was after like like my highlight tape was incredible, but
I had a lot to clean up Junior year and
so I was like, wow, like, I guess I'm not
playing hoops. I'm not playing baseball, like I just got
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my first offer, like I got a chance to play.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm a football guy.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I was a football, baseball, basketball, and wanted to play
golf too. In high school, I wanted to do it
all in the Trinity League. That didn't exactly hold up.
The basketball coach was trying to figure out if my
porty was basketball, Welts was trying to figure out if
my party was football. And so I decided after sophomore
year that it was all ball, all football. So whatever.
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Florida State, Miami, Tennessee was my first three offers, like
a couple of weeks into offseason going into junior year, right,
so did the whole seven on seventh Circuit had an
awesome team. I don't know if you're I'm any of
these guys, but like Dylan Crawford, Cocoa Crawford number two
wide on the country, we're gonna go to school together.
He was actually living with my family in Santa Margarita.
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He transferred to San Marita for a senior year because
the old famous Kyle Sweet was one of my best
friends to this day was like my slot for two years.
Went to Washington State and we needed another stud, so
Dylan came down. In the offseason, I was with Tyler
Vaughn's if you remember him at SC, Trayvon Sidney, both
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SC guys. Anyways, flash forward through junior year, had a
solid junior year. We lost to Saint John Bosco and
for a league with Josh Rosen and Jalil Wood Dude
and Nigel Hale and Damian Mama and eleven other d
one guys. And then that off seasons kicked off the
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Lead eleven, which is crazy. That's where I met Skinny Easton.
We were down in uh doing the whole Nike Headquarters thing.
I mean, the Legal eleven was probably my favorite thing
all time, and nowadays it's not the same. Well, I
mean they had ESPN was dialed in. I mean I
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watched it every year. It was the same whole thing.
I guess I'm not exactly sure, but I think ESPN
dropped it and they were just doing their own afterwards.
But anyways, the Legal eleven was awesome. That brought me
into like my junior summer and you know, typically the
quarterbacks trying to figure out where they're going to go
because the dominoes are falling. Guys are committing Easton or
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had already committed to Georgia. I was basically came down
to My top three was Michigan, Bama, SC, and I
guess top four s C and Stanford. It was crazy time, Like, uh,
you know Sarkesian was the head coach at the time.
Uh he I wore number three for Carson Palmer. Shout
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out to Carson Palmer was like the ball boy at
San Margarita High School and Carson was playing way back
in the day New Jordan Palmer forever, just like so
kel guy. I'll never forget. I was literally at SC's
practiced with Sam Darnald. He was going into his senior year.
I was going into my He was going in a
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senior I was going into my junior year, and I
was like, dude, like obviously, like I got a lot
of respect for you. We played hoops against each other
our whole lives. Like he was an unbelievable hooper.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Sam Donald's unbelievable hooper.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Dude. He had We played AU. We played an AAU
hoops game and he had nine threes in one game.
I'll never forget it was he a corner, got just
a corner. He was he just he has he said,
a quick trigger and like he was all over the place.
I don't know how the hell he had this kind
of jump shot, but it was. It was impressive. So anyways,
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he literally I tell him there, I'm like, hey, dude, like,
are you going to sc or not? Like Ricky Town
at the time was committed. We all knew. I mean respectfully,
we kind of knew, Like I guess Ricky had de committed,
so we're I was like, dude, like, I'm my mom
went to CE cheerleader there for two years, and like
I want to go to see him. Like, dude, if
you commit, like I'm probably you know, it's like the
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Josh Rosen thing. It's like he commits to u c.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
L ably, probably not going to go to.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
U c l A and and deal with it when
like you could find another situation within four of your
top spots. So anyways, Sarkeshian was a coach. I was
going on my official visit at Stanford. McCaffrey was my host.
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He was a true freshman. He was not playing at
the time, and to be quite honest, he was he
was pretty pissed. I mean, he's an ultimate competitor. I mean,
I'll talk about him later, but he's like, in my opinion,
he's you know, they call him the white Lotus. He's
just all around most talented human being, you know, on
a piano, on the keys, can rap in the can
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wrap in the locker room better than the rest. Typically
us don't, but that's not our that's not our forte.
But he you know, comedy show down at the Rose Bowl,
he gets upstaged, gets on stage, does a bit like
blows everyone out of the water. Like he was just
like all time. So anyways, long story short, I was
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going on my official to Stanford. Coach Shark calls me
because he knows I'm going on my official. He's like, hey, man,
I got uh maliek Henry, uh Dad and himself called
and said they want to come to see next week.
And uh I think they're going to commit. He's like,
will you do me a favor and like commit to
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me right now silently so I can tell them I
already have a commit and go to Stanford, have a
horrible time, and we'll make it public on Monday. So
I'm like, wow, this is crazy. Okay, so I silently
commit to what's a silent commit It's basically, hey, coach,
I'm on board. We're going, but we're not making a
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public I'm not posting, he's not posting. Twenty four to
seven ain't gonna say anything. Rivals ain't gonna say anything.
So I was like, all right, well let's do it. So, dude,
I go to Stanford, and respectfully, I could candidly be
candid about all of this because I'm done.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Now and this is why we have to bring the juice.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Dude. So I go to Stanford. McCaffrey's my host. Coach
Shaw had this thing that was like, basically he had
his roadmap. If you're Andrew Luck, if you're Kevin Hogan,
if you're McCaffrey, it doesn't matter who you are, you're
gonna red shirt the offenses West Coast Bill Walsh old
school terminology, hardball, like new language, so like for a
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freshman to play, because we don't take early in rollies,
you're not gonna be able to learn the language and
time to like play freely. So he wanted you to
red shirt, go through a cycle, get your schooling diald in.
So you're not stressing about class. I guess, looking back
on it, somewhat selfishly before this nil era, before the
transfer portal, before being able to transfer, not set out,
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he had the sauce, the secret sauce, because he would
keep Trent Murphy, Shane Scove, the Castro, Solomon Thomas till
for four years, you know, because if your red shirt,
you're probably gonna play two maybe three, so you're gonna
be there for most guys were playing four years before
they go to the draft. So anyways, I got there
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and McCaffrey wasn't playing, Sally wasn't playing, and they were
who I was hanging out with, and they were like
super sour like Sall He's like, I shouldn't went to Texas.
McCaffrey's like I should have went to Oregon and Stanford.
Everybody knows who went there. Like freshman year is supposed
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to be corn I know, Buds Navy Seal like where
you just get absolutely smoked. Yeah, because they are not
planning on playing anyone. They want to build you up.
They want to break you down and then build you up.
Coach Turley Andy Ward, Yeah, so Andy Ward, I know
the program staff.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I know the program, part.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Of the Turley lineage. Shannon Turley, I've told people this
forever was literally the best strength coach in the world.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I've heard this many times.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
And so long story short, going back to the whole
deal of my commitment was I go to Stanford and
McCaffrey and saw you are like, dude, you got Texas,
you got Bama, you got Michigan, you got sc on
the table. Take it. Yeah, And I was like, I
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want to Stanford like and so respectfully, long story short.
Keller Chris Paul, Chris's nephew coach, you know, was I
think he was oc at uh Niners for a bit
and then head coach at Wisconsin. He was number three
quarterback in the country in twenty fifteen, so the year
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before me, no, sorry, twenty fourteen. So he was slotted
to be the guy when Hogan left, and that was
Keller or sorry, that was McCaffrey and Solomon's guy, right,
So I couldn't tell if they were someone trying to
detour me because that's their guy exactly, Like they're not
gonna say, hey, come on in, you're gonna be our guy,
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right like, So I was kind of thinking about that
a little bit like if that was a little of
their bias and whatnot. Right, long story short, I go home,
Sarks calling, Hey, how bad was your visit? And we're talking.
It ends up not being that Monday. It bleeds into
the next weekend, and the next weekend is the Troy
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event where Sark goes on stage, and for whatever it's worth,
everyone knows what happens there. He gets put on leave
and I'm sitting there like Sarks on leave. I didn't
have the greatest visit on the planet to Stanford. They're
like Sarks on leave, I didn't have the greatest visit
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on the planet to Stanford. I'm probably gonna go check
out Bama. In Harball's calling, he's on his second going
into his second year. Harball lands. Two weeks later on
we're running seven on seven at San Margarita to CoA Crawford.
He changed his name, Dylan Crawford was one of my
best friends who I got to transfer to Stanford or
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sorry to San Marita. Number two wide out in the country,
absolute beast. Harball comes in and lands a helicopter on
the fifty yard line at your practice. At practice with
Jed Fish and Tim Drebno and Harball, I mean three coaches.
They had a top five recruiting class the year before.
He's like, hey, let's create the wave. Be on the
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front end of the wave with me. Let's take you
and Dylan and let's go to work. So that day
it was crazy. I followed this whole day. He lands
at San Margarita, comes in and says, hey, I know
Brady Hoke offered you too. I want to do it
formally with me here now and want to let you
know like we really want you. Obviously, the Stanford Ties
we're gonna run very similar type system. I know you're
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interested in that, and so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
take a step back and postpone and reevaluate for a
little bit, right, So I reevaluate for you know, probably
a month and a half, two months, and then like
seasons coming around, like June's coming around before my senior season.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A little bit of a rewind. But in the Rose
Bowl that year before my senior season, Stanford's playing Iowa. Yep,
I'm in Mammoth. Like my family would go up there
skiing every year, and I wasn't skiing. I was just
hanging out at the cabin while they're all skiing, and
Shop calls me in the morning and I got the
rose bul on and he's like literally on the phone.
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I could see him on the screen. He's walking around
the field. You can see David Shaw on like pregame walk.
He calls me like an hour and a half before
kick Wow, like they're kind of out there.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You could see him.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I tell people that was the most risk that was.
That was literally what like the the the quantum physics,
the energy of me, like pulling the trigger at Stanford
was all around this, Right. So I'm sitting there solo
at a cabin, it's snowing out. I got the rose
bull on, I got my cup of Joe, and I'm
talking to Shaw and he's telling me about the game plan.
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He's sim of this and that he's talking about first play, Uh,
you know, lookout for McCaffrey three by one into the boundary,
which was one of our go to plays with me
with Bryce Love and other guys with literally three scat
hockey stick to the field, basic you know, little stick
route basically clearing out the front side, clearing on the backside,
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and McCaffrey's one on one with the will let him go.
You know, if the mic pushes to the field, he
heelt one on one, so literally first play the game
sticks him inside house, call gone. So they go hon
to win fifty five seventeen.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That was a great game.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Great game. I watched the whole thing and was like,
that system looks nice for me. You know, great o' line,
great defense. You know, I'm not out here running around
like Lamar Jackson, like I'm trying to go you know,
twenty two of twenty seven with three tuds and get
us in the right run play and make sure we're
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always I mean, Shaw sold me on just meeting wise
with Tavita Pritchard, who's now coaching Jaydon Daniels at the Commanders.
So I'm a huge fan of Tavita, was like, I
feel like responsible for a bunch of my success. He
played at Stanford briefly a little bit before like Nonez
and then Tavita and then Luck came in. Luck took over,
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and Pritchard essentially turned into a coach like with two
years left Stanford young, Like he was a coach that
wore pats. He was lux lux, you know, he was
lux ears eyes and ears at his first two years playing.
So long story short, I'm like, dude, this is a
great setup. I almost pulled the trigger to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Because of the helicopter and all.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I just but I didn't know. I didn't think that.
I thought it was a little riskier because I thought
like Harbo was building, he hadn't built yet, and Shot
just won the Rose Bowl. You know. I was you know,
I was always this serious guy on the school front
out of four to oh my whole time. And so
I was like very interested in intrigued by the Stanford
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degree of course, the Silicon Valley, the dot com boom,
what's going on up there, the visit they take us down,
Page Mill Road, Snapchat, Facebook, Oracle, Hewlett, the whole nine.
And so you're just like, I don't know, this is
kind of interesting, Like it's a total different deal. The
bottom line was, I was like, if I go to Stanford,
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there's gonna be way less distractions. I got, you know, family,
friends and everybody at sc LA, the whole nine. Of course,
I wanted to go up to more of a quiet
place and vest play the long game, and so I
pulled the trigger to Stanford. I will say the last
closing deal was they were they were recruiting. Rosen wanted
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to go there. It was his dream school. And I
was at my freshman year of high school. After my
freshman season, I was at a camp in doing the
whole camp. It was the first camp I ever went to.
It was at Stanford and Rosen shows up. Like the
camp starts at noon. Rosen shows up at two and
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we're like coming around the last circuit to do long toss.
He throws his cleats on, He like warms up on
the side with one of the coaches. Comes into the
line for long toss. There's a line of fifty quarterbacks.
He walks to the front of the line, throws it
like seventy five yards, takes his spikes offs, hanging out
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with his mom, and like goes up to Shaw like
shakes his hand respectfully, like expecting an offer. Yeah, on
an offer yet yeah, Shaw like didn't offer him. And
so that was huge for me because he was a
year ahead of me. Long story short, they go, they
close the deal with me after the Rose Bowl, like
a month later. I think we're in like maybe February March.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I want to get the deal signed before the verbal
before summer camp and they go, hey, we're looking at
Brandon Wimbush. You know, we're looking at a couple other
guys in fifteen, but we only offer one guy, and
if you're willing to pull the trigger, we'll pass on
a twenty fifteen and we'll take you in twenty sixteen.
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And I'm sitting there with my dad, I'm like that
basically guarantees me two years to start. Even if Keller
pans out to be a you know, a hell of
a player like most people expected him to be. You know,
I go red shirt. I maybe sit my second year,
you know, Aaron Rodgers to Brett Favre type, like be patient,
don't cash, yeah, and put on a little bit of size,
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learn find ways that he don't have to make the
rookie mistakes by watching. And so I was like, dude,
this is this is great. So I pulled the trigger
to Stanford. I got kayten Smith to commit, like the
next week we were talking about it. We then went
down the line. We got some other big time commitments.
Some old lineman Nate Herbig who's playing now for the Steelers,
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who's like one of the best guards I've ever seen.
Just bench and squat, you know, the entire weight room basically.
And so anyways, I pulled the trigger to Stanford. Harbo
was still coming. He was still he was still coming hard. Afterwards,
I ended up taking a couple of calls, but sticking
with it. And long story short, that was that was
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kind of the uh. That was kind of the entirety
of the story. I was sold on the fact that,
you know, nobody in twenty fifteen, I got a great lineup.
We had Bryce Love I got to go see and
I knew the line was young. He coach Bloomgren was
our aligned coach. Once again, I speak so highly of
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the staff because I'm like, if I played with them
for ten years, if that was my staff in the
league or anywhere else, it was just a great, great uh.
There was just a great vibe amongst all of us.
They're all super talented. So anyways, that was the that
was the story on pulling the trigger to Stanford.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's sick.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That was a great story.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That could be a pot right there. It's so fa. Well,
before we go past Stanford, you brought up McCaffrey, and
I feel like he got some got some juice for
McCaffrey though, tell me about cmc oh man.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So it was crazy seeing him fre So I was
a junior in high school. He was a true freshman.
I visited during this season his freshman year on a
bye week and he wasn't playing. It was like week six,
and this guy's like the ultimate competitor. He's like, I
should have went to Oregon. I would have been playing
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as a true freshman. Sure enough, he was ready to
go role because he wanted to play in Shaw respectfully.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Like I said, he had his method.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And his method. You know, he's a decade over a
decade he was top five winning as coach. Like he
had his method, and it was just the beginning of
like I feel like athletes starting to kind of understand
their value. Right. It was the early It was just
before and I always kind of kicking off. We were
going to the Steve Clarkson camp like trendsetters, and Clarkson
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had been telling Clarkson was telling me and Eason and
Shaye Patterson, Felipe Franks and Austin Kendall like that was
our class. Yeah, hey, you guys are gonna get paid
your your freshman year, Like you're at least gonna be
able to take brand deals like and I Al's gonna break. Yeah.
So for the Stanford model, that was the biggest threat,
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of course, and what started happening. So so that year,
sticking on CMC, coach Shaw started playing.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Him like week ten, don't want to lose this guy.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Week ten, week eleven. Then he goes to the to
the Foster Farms Bowl and goes for two tuds. He's
wearing number twenty seven, little white guy. I know, you know,
And so that was obviously the start of him. I
was not there at the time. Right flash forward the
next year, I'm there and uh, you know, he's They
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put me right next to him. He's my locker he's
my locker mate, And I mean I have nothing but
like the most utmost respect for the guy. I mean
I was telling you earlier offline, like he just he
does everything the right way. Yeah, I mean we're in
seven on seven team tech. Like if a ball, if
he drop if he drops a ball, like he's dropping
down and giving you twenty He's just like so locked
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in on everything that he does. His training methods were
always insane. He always had the best pt guy. Guy
he was pulling from the San Jose Sharks, you know guys,
he docks. He was pulling from the SF Giants. He
was just always like looking for an edge. But I mean,
you know, he'd pull out the keyboard, he'd pop on
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the keyboard in the locker room. He was one of
the best ping pong players in the locker room. He
can rap better than than the bros in the locker room.
I mean he was He was just an all time
like locker room guy, but also like a guy that
just like demanded respect just based on how he went
about his business. Hell yeah. And so my freshman year
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was pretty incredible. It was like watching every game was
like I would watch obviously the telecast and it was
like the CMC show, you know. I mean, so much
of our everything went through him in our offense, and
we always joke around, but like we had so many
drives like end of game, like Shaw style obviously is
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like let them screw up, but like we're gonna do
our deal and we don't care if they know what
we're running. I mean, we would run power pin Poll
five six times in a row to close games out,
and everyone knew what we were doing and just couldn't
stop it. And then you add in a little play action.
We had Francis A. A wo Sue, we had Michael Rector.
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This was Keller's first year, so we're coming off a
little bit of a low relative to Kevin Hogan. But dude,
I mean he was just I mean I remember him
going down to the Heisman that year and like spending
time with Drake, and like he was just I mean,
he would get more fan mill than anyone I've ever seen.
He'd get he'd get he'd get uh, containers of like
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like white containers of like different kinds of protein and
whole nine, like raw milk, protein, like powder from Bill Romanowski. Nice,
you know longest yard. You know, see you in your
pedaguana practice Romanowski. So, uh, dude, he just I don't know,
he had an obviously unbelievable support system, like with his
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dad doing what he did, and and you know, he
kept his circle real tight. He was. He was just
one of the most like locked in dudes that I've
ever seen, you know, And and week in and week out,
we we really didn't change. We had we had the
old line, we had the the backfield, where like we
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didn't have to change anything. Like he was dude, he
was carrying us solely, and so yeah, I mean that's
a little semac love were the only thing I know
I got him, and it is on the golf course.
Oh I think. I think it's pecks and and buys
are a little too big. It's a little hard for
him to turn on it, you know. But that's about
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the literally the only thing I think that I confidently
would walk into and I feel like I have the
upper hand.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
What's the last time you played him?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh? Well, I was supposed to. Well, we were. I
went to the NFC title last year, and you know,
he said, we're gonna play a little offseason. He's had
a couple you know, rough off seasons, just training, like rehabbing. Actually,
so he we haven't he hadn't played. Yeah, I don't
think he's played golf in two years. But I'll get
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him out there this offseason hopefully if he's feeling all right. Yeah,
there he goes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, before I go into the switch to Mississippi State,
what was your favorite Stanford memory?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Oh? Man, So, I mean my favorite games? Would I
mean obviously starting with Oddson Stadium my junior year, you know,
so so I my red shirt junior year. So after
my red shirt sophomore season, my second year playing, had
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a great season. We started four and oh we're playing
Herbert on the road at Oregon College Game Day. We're
five in the country, they're seven in the country. They
got me on the mel kiper board with Burrow and
Tua and Herbert, myself and whoever, probably Jacob Eason, I
don't remember. Thirty two scouts, every team represented at the game.
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You realize, like once you actually start getting the flow
of college, like, none of that really matters. I'm not
you're not at all. It really just didn't even come
into the picture. But we were finally getting rolling, like
we were getting the Stanford Stadium filled out, which is
you know we call the Standard Library.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I know, I've been to a game or two there.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I mean, you know, you gotta win at Palo though.
It's a little bit like an LA team. You know,
there's so much going on, like you gotta be on
a chance for the Rose Bowl or the or the Dance. Yeah,
and so I guess my favorite game was Week four?
Was it? Yeah? No? Sorry? Was Week four? We were
three and oh on the road at Autsin they were
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three and oh. It was me versus Herb. Herb was
definitely gonna go to the draft that year. I was
projected to go that year. And we're down twenty I
may butcher this a little bit. I think we're down
twenty seven to seven. We played, I played a good
first half, like we just didn't convert. We had a
bubble in road in zone on the two yard line.
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I throw a bubble in the end zone to my
boy Kyle Sweet. He then goes and throws a twenty
yard dot and then we turn around and throw like
an exchange, which is essentially four verts, and I throw
like an eighty yard touchdown. And that game we were
five hundred and fifty yards five touchdowns. That was like
my coming out party flash four to the UCLA deal.
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We both went three and out twice, and Shaw grabs
him by the face mask and was like, hey, if
you don't handle it right now, like we're going with
Burnsy the rest of the year. Right, So now I'm
talking about this?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Is it right?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
So it's third I'll never third down and five and uh.
One of my best friends in high school, Rick Wade,
is playing d ND. Hey Bobi, he called me Bobi.
He's like Hey, Bobie, you ain't ready for this. You
ain't ready for this, and I have to throw up.
We have a glance on the backside with a little
bit of a play action, and I remember like throwing
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the glance like right through his arms to a snag
and a first down. We went on. We scored eight
drive straight. We bryce loved rushed for two fitty three hundred.
We scored eight touchdowns in a row. We won like
fifty five to fourteen. And the rest of the season.
I did not get sacked for seven straight games. We
went to the Pac twelve Championship, played Sam Darnold and
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Pittman and Biggie Marshall on the rest at Levi Stadium.
And this was my this is my red shirt freshman year,
so my second year of their first year handling bizz
right and dude, we I pull his own read in
the fourth quarter We're down by seven. This is a
little shout out to Kayden Smith missing a block. My
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mass pulls his own read like I'm going to the
pylon and it's just Biggie Marshall because the the X
like ran a post. He comes off of the post
and I'm going to like reach for the pylon. Kayden
misses the block and I go to reach for the
pylon like this and my right thumb goes down into
the turf. The dissocate my right thumb on my thrown hand,
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tear my ligament and my thumb in the pack up
championship and we have like ten minutes to go in
the game. We end up scoring and they get the
ball and I'm on the sideline like coach, I can't.
I can't grip the ball. I can't. You know. That
was my first introduction to the tent. Dude. We ended
up up. I ended up. We ended up driving down
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having a chance to win the freaking game. We're on
like the four yard line and we run s ygl
short yardage goal line. We bring in for our two
tight ends. We bring in two three hundred pounders, and
then we bring a three hundred pounder in the backfield.
And then we got Bryce Love back there or Cam Scarlett. Dude,
we run back to back short yardage goal line. We
get stuffed. We then run a third s y up
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the middle. We get on the one yard We got
a little bit of juice on the one yard line,
half yard line, fourth and goal to go to the
Rose Bowl packed Tulp Championship against Darnald sc where I wanted,
you know, like it couldn't have it all was there,
you know, your first year playing where I started season.
You weren't even playing and I'm signaling to the sideline
(35:46):
sucker like we have this one famous play. Everyone knows
it in Stanford history, Hogan. It's a Peyton manny, right,
like once a decade or once a season. Yeah, you're
we we do the short mo we have s ygl
they have to go all out on the one yard line, right,
and I wanted to turn around, tuck it in, wave
(36:08):
at my mom and dad, act like I wasn't doing anything,
and then peel out the backside right walking. This is
a good story. So first year plan, I'm like, do
I do I do I do? Do you do it?
Do I do it? Do I do it? I'm probably
gonna walk in the end zone and throw the ball
onto the stands. Okay, first year start. It's David Shaw.
(36:28):
It's a very respectfully it's a top down type systems
if I like, everybody does their job and everyone does
what they're told and it and it works most of
the time. We're always in an advantageous play, without a doubt.
We prep harder than anybody else because our coaches we
actually think our edge is cerebral, Like we actually think
we know what blitzes you're bringing every one of our protections,
(36:52):
every one of our protections. There's not a blitz that
you brought in the last ten years that if you're
a DC that coach Bloomeran doesn't have an answer for. Right,
So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna come out in
a particular formation with a particular motion to let us
know what you're gonna do, because like, if you're in
a certain blitz, we may mow away and now we
(37:13):
have leverage over here. So either you're gonna check out
of the blitz or we're gonna run a week away
from your strike, right Sam and Nickel or Sam and
might come on strong side. I say all that to
say like we were so regimented, and I was like,
I feel like the like the reason why Hogan and
and and a lot of guys had success at Stanford
(37:33):
was because it was so structured, but like in the
midst of that structure, like if you can add your
own little like if you could if you if you're
not afraid to like be super structured, then like all
of a sudden, like a couple of the flairs like
give you an exponential edge in particular, do I pull
it or do it? Why so, dude, I I don't
(37:53):
have a lot of regrets in my life. I'm pretty
all in and everything I do, I guess I did
the right thing.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You called the right play.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
So I come out. I'm supposed to open up straight
to power, so I'll say the whole story. So I'm
back at the line. It's louder Cam Smith, middle backer,
a WUSU first rounder to the Chargers, is coming off
off the right edge and Cam Smith is playing micro
right here. When we go s ygl we call the lion.
We call the play at the line of scrimmage. Vegas
(38:22):
King West Coast, Vegas King power ninety seven power right.
I've called Vegas King twice so he knows it's at
the line. So I get back to the line and
Shaw's going like this. I'm looking seeing it playing the
mannerisms because I'm not in the huddle right and I'm
seeing Cam look at a woosu and a woosu look
(38:44):
at Cam and he's going like this, and I'm like,
they know where this is going.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, tell me about your favorite golf shot of your career.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
When I did not research showing you that's one Cole points.
I know you have something pinned on her instagram, that's what.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well actually my mind was going to that,
but I guess that wasn't actually on a golf course. Sure, well,
this was pretty cool. After my sophomore year at Stanford,
you go through the pregame interviews with the different reporters,
and I ended up like making it clear like hey, guys,
if you don't mind, Like when they do the intro
(39:18):
to the quarterback this first drive of the game, it's like,
you know, they give your face picture, they give your
high school, they give your height and weight, and then
I made sure they put a little bullet point in
there that said scratch golfer. So like probably like ten
times that year because we were always kind of playing
primetime because we had a good season, people would like
(39:38):
hit me up throughout the year like, no way, you're
a scratch golfer. I don't believe you so, which I am,
and I maybe wasn't at the time because I wasn't
playing golf. Jim Nance did happen to come up to
me at some event and like tell me that he
didn't believe that I was a scratch golfer. And he's like,
I gotta see it live. And so you know, I
(39:58):
respectfully waited him month to like paying him, but like
send him a note, and he invited me down to
Pebble Beach and we ended up playing and he took
me by his house after and you know, he's got
the Fame Part three in his backyard. That's a replica
of the seventh hole at Pebble where Nance got married.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
And you can see the seventh hole from his house
at Pebble, So you know, it's a it's a turf
Part three in his backyard. And it's literally just me
and him, and I didn't ask for it. He was
just literally the most incredible human ever, so nice, so
down to earth. I'm like flipping wedges and he pulls
out his phone and starts em seeing it as if
(40:39):
I'm hitting the last shot at you know, the US
Open on Sunday. Yeah, And honestly, the picture, the video
that I posted was first take. It was literally the
first vid and he's like, I don't have to do
another one. I stuck it like five feet like almost
hold it out, and he gave the whole you know,
Jim Nance audio.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Right and so iconic.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I would have to hang that one up. Their shout
out to Jim nantz up top right there with my
I guess my dream force them Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer
and Jim Nance.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
That's pretty good. Are you familiar with juice golf?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm not all right.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I don't know if this is up your alley or not.
So we created juice golf as a segment recently and
bring the juice probably the last what year or so.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
So.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Juice golf consists of a one on one.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
In your case, i'd have a handicap, yeah, because I'm
not a scratch. Yeah, but basically, whoever wins the hole
gets a point. Now each holder is a punishment. Yeah,
there's three punishments. You could either there's four punishments now,
either got a shotgun a beer right then and there
you do your punishment before shot and a beer shot
a fireball, throw a zin in but the catches the
(41:46):
zins have to accumulate, Okay, so you can't take the
zin's out.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Okay, over the round okay.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
And the fourth most recent added element is we bring
a taser.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Out onto the course.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, take a taser.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Gotta take a taser.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
I'm probably gonna be throwing. So I end up losing
maybe six to ten z en.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
S if you well, you don't get to pick. Oh
you lose, you pick the winner of the hole gets
to pick your punishment. Okay, and uh, it gets pretty.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
What do you plan to what's your index? Eighteen fourteen?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
We've done nines, we've done nine.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Uh, we've had a couple of times we won nine
and like it's pretty even, and we've gone back. Yeah,
eighteen's a little much. Eighteen will get you. Yeah, but
it also just takes so long if you're in that element.
But little nines, man, it's it's good. I'd want I'd
for sure want a couple a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Oh, I'll give you some pops.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
If you if you do come out to president, I'd
love to get you on juice golf.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, I'm down.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
What's the most rowdy you've been on a golf course
playing personally?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Have you hit a hole in one? Oh?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Wow, that's embarrassing that I have to say this on Telly,
But no I haven't. And uh, I mean I've holed
out from one hundred and fifty two hundred yards out
threes on par fives. Done it all? Accept the hole
on one? I mean I've hit I've hit pins, I've
put dents and holes, no balls staying in the hole.
Uh for a true hole on one? I mean, I
(43:10):
mean I've had hold in one's at part three courses
that I don't count.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
You don't count hold on one a part three course?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
No, no, No, I mean like I feel like anybody,
like any any serious golfer, like he'aln't count it on
you know, a true eighteen hole deal.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
That's a hot take.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, that's a hot take. I don't know it was.
It was in Uh it was like an old MUNI
down here. Yeah, I was like fourteen years old. I
don't know. I've ran around and said that I got
a hold on one. But it's like, hey, nine hole
course like part three that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Count, doesn't count.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
No for all my for all my golfing golf. But
I will say, what does make me feel better? I
think it was justin Thomas twenty nineteen at Augusta got
his first home one at Augusta. But what I'm saying
is it makes me feel better. He shit five hundred
million golf balls and he's he's one of the best
golfers in the world. And yeah, he just got his.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
First home one at night and stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
So maybe, uh, maybe there's some mojo in two K
twenty five. We'll see see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
What's your expectations if you do come to the Bring
the Juice Golf tournament, what's your expectations?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
H Well, I mean I expect to be the gross
champ a little loch. I don't know. I mean, it
depends on who else do you have out there. I mean,
golf is golf, like I mean, if I end up
getting hot, I have a good day, if I have
a good partner. I don't know what the format is,
but you know, I've won a fair bit of golf
at tourneys in my time.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
But yeah, well you win green jackets if you if
you want to.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Bring a Juice calf, I'd hang that green jacket up
in here somewhere.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, it's exclusive. Who is the best for some of
golfers right now in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
You think, oh, if I were to put together for
some of NFL guys, Yeah, well, I've played with Sam Barnold,
Kyl Allen, that was fun. I would say, well, I
definitely would put Josh at Well. I mean it's so
I know a guy Brian Zara, who was a time producer,
put together the Capitol one match who they've done like
nine matches, The Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Aaron and for Good
(45:08):
who Aaron played with. But you know they've done a
bunch of them. DeVante's good, Aaron's good. I would say, honestly,
like it. I just basically said, it'd be Mahomes, it
would be Josh Allen, and it'd be Aaron rodgers'ble. Yeah. Wow, Yeah,
I'm thinking maybe there's somebody i'd sub for Mahomes like
(45:30):
I've heard of Thelan's closer to scratch. I've seen him
play at the American Century in Tahoe Adam Thielen. But
Josh plays a lot, he enjoys it. Donald shout out
to Donald having a great year. He's he's a good friend.
We go way back to playing Pop Warner against each
other in AAU hoops. He's getting better at golf, like
(45:50):
he's kind of just gotten into it in the last
two years. Yeah, Kyle Allen's pretty good. I mean obviously
you got Romo hanging out on the retired crew. Stafford's
pretty good. Matt Ryan's good. Yeah. Quarterbacks and kickers, Man,
the quarterbacks and kickers.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I've heard some kickers who was There was a dude
last year at the.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Pro Bowl games when they did the little game that
was pretty lights out.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
He was a punter for the Cowboys for Theys.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
The punters and kickers are always good. I know a
couple of them myself. I'm trying to think who else.
Well Herbert, I mean, if he'd ever respond to a
text message, maybe we could play some golf. No, but
I'm just kidding. He's last year he had the laborum
so he was out all off season. He can absolutely
(46:38):
smoke it. I mean he's I could see that. He
h's his foreign like two seventy Yeah, like it's insane. Yeah,
that would probably do it. I know Levis is trying
to play a little bit, but I don't know the
ones that I've seen on television prime to time with
the nerves. The whole is Josh and Mahomes and aaron
(47:04):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
We'll get you guys out there. We need to get
juice golf lined up. We need to get bring juice
golf train lined up. I'm gonna wrap this step up
right now. This has been money, This has been fun.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, kJ Capilla Lady and gentlemen follow him on the gram.
Big things coming, big things come, big things come. Leaving
with that right now, I appreciate you. Bring the juice,
get your hot steak, Greedy.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
We'll see you next week.
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