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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, all right, all right, we got the legend here.
Five's are electre Kurt Warner, welcome to bring the juice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's get after it. Baby.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Let's start off with the obvious here. You just had
to sell who's going to Fresnoe's State. We're Fresno State boys.
What do you know about Fresnoe State?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I can't say I know a lot about it other
than that you know kind of the history. You understand
the attention that the program has had. You understand some
of the great names that have come out of Fresno State.
So when EJ had the opportunity to talk to them
and go visit, I was extremely excited. I mean, I'm
excited about what the history has been. Coach EN's obviously
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has done a great job in the places he's been
of building programs and winning championships.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So I'm excited. I'm I'm pumped, and it's.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Close to the home, which makes it nice for me
and and EJ is is pumped to get started and
get back to playing football.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Absolutely, Kurt.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What would you say is when adversity strikes in your life,
what's the what's your go to?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What's your mindset?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How do you get to where you need to be
when that moment happens.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
For me, when I went through all the stuff that
I went through, where it all started with is who
I knew I was, what I believed about myself. And
you know, we have a saying in our family that
never let your circumstances define you. That I think it's
so easy for us to look at where we're at,
or look at what's going on around us and let
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that be the defining factor on you know, I'm working
in a grocery store. Oh, you can't play in the
NFL because you're working in a grocery store.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No I can.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I have the talent to work to play in the NFL.
It's just right now, I'm in a grocery store because
this is where I find myself, or playing Arena football
or Europe. And so to me, it was never about circumstances.
And I think in life too often we let our
circumstances dictate what we think about ourselves instead of saying, no,
I know who I am, believe in who I am,
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and now I'm going to press through because sometimes we
find ourselves in those situations.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I always say, most people have their supermarket moment. Like,
people look at my journey in the NFL and go, man,
he did it so different. But if you look at
most people's journey in life, it's very similar to mine.
Where you have times where you're in places you don't
want to be and you don't know how you got there,
but you know you're not going to end there. That's
just where I'm at right now, and I'll take the
first step. So to me, it was always about believing
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in who I was, staying true to that, and then
working through the circumstances I found myself in.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Did you real back to that grocery store.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I've been back a few times.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yes, yes, guys look at you a little different now.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I mean I think they do.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But again, I.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Think it's one thing that's really connected me with a
lot of people, was you know that I did have
that moment and I had that struggle, and you know,
I found myself in a place I didn't know how
I even got there, Like I was, you know, three
weeks before that, I was in Green Bay's training camp
and I'm thinking, here we are. You know, I'm this
close to my dream and now I'm working in a
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grocery store. But but I don't. I don't look at
a lot. I just look at it like it's life.
This is what happened. And I don't go back there
and know you look what I did, or go back
and you know, gain some kind of inspiration. It's just
really life throws different things at you, and we all
have different paths and different journeys, and it's about navigating
those things. And when your opportunity comes, you're ready for it.
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You believe in who you are, you're confident in it,
and you go and chase it.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
A strike with irons hot, baby, have to have to.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Now that ball's done, how are you being the best
version of yourself you could possibly be?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Every day?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think the goal And it's funny because it's something
I think I learned when I was in a grocery store,
is that you know, at the end of the night,
we always had to face the aisle, which simply means
we take all of our product and we pull it
to the front of the aisle and then we turn
the label. So when you walk in and get your soup,
you know if it's tomato or chicken noodle or whatever. Right,
And I remember, you know, thinking to myself when I
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was in that grocery store, like, all right, at the
end of the night, I am going to have the
best faced aisle. My eye was going to look the
cleanest of any aisle in the store. And I know
when John or Jim or Susie walk into Aisle seven
the next day at six am, not one of them
is going to say, Wow, look at this, this aisle
is clean. Nobody's gonna do that. But to me, it
was about a mindset of excellence.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yes, this is.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Where I'm at, don't want to be here, but I'm
gonna be excellent at it. And so that became my
mindset in everything that I do. So now, whether it
was playing in the NFL or now it's retired, or
doing the stuff I do on TV or on radio,
or even being a parent or being a husband, it's
about trying to be excellent at even the littlest things,
excellent at everything that I do. And so that's my
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mindset whenever I take on any challenge, any task, and
that's to me becomes what.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Life's all about.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Is wherever you're at, whatever you're doing, be great at it,
Chase it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Chase great is it, be the best version of yourself
you could possibly be every day.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Last thing for you.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Now that you're done playing Bold and you're in the
media industry and you're chasing to be the best version
yourself in that side of things.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
What are some tools in your toolbox that you views.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
To help elevating your game, whether it is as a
father or as a husband, as as whatever it is
in your life do you reference?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Are you a David Gogin's guy? What do you got
for me?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
You know, the biggest thing for me is I always
ask myself, how are.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You going to separate yourself? Have to?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So when I was playing, it was like, Okay, you
can't do whatever. You're not Patrick Mahomes, You're not Lamar Jack,
so quit trying to be them. But what do you
have that can separate you?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I do the same thing now that I do analysts work.
I look at it and go, Okay, how am I
gonna do it differently? How am I gonna say? How
am I going to be able to bring different knowledge
than who have a five hundred million people that are
out there doing the same thing. And so it's my
approach every day is what are you gonna do that's different?
Look at yourself and go, what.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Do you have?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What skills do you have that can separate you from
everybody else? And so that's kind of my mindset with
whatever I do. You know, how do you separate yourself
as a husband? How do you separate yourself as a
father from other people? And even though it's not about
compare and it's simply just about chasing and looking at
things a different way than everybody else. Might you know
I'm not just sitting going Okay, so and so does
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it this way, and this guy does it this way.
Let me be just as good as them. No, I'm like, okay,
they do it that way. How can I separate myself
from them? And so people want to tune in and
want to listen to what I have to say, or
or want to watch me and emulate how I live
or my marriage or whatever because we do it differently.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
All right, oh light, all right, we're back here radio role.
I got my guy, Spencer rather with Spencer nice arting
into you less a Burmont Street. It's a nice town.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I like the area.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I might get it a little little spot out here.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Let's dive right into it. Man.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You know your journey the hype started early.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Peop. Don't really talk about.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The mental side of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
How was it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Having that pressure on you at such a young age.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I enjoyed it, you know, I really enjoyed it, you know,
as a younger guy, highly recruit, do whatever. I think
it kind of prepared me for college and in the NFL, right,
you know, because now there's more pressure than anything. So
I think it's prepared me. And I thank God that
that I was in that position. Everything happens for a reason.
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You got your journey. When versity strikes now in your life,
how do you respond?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Adversity has struck in my.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Life, it's already happened, like I've already gone through it.
So football adversity is different than life adversity. Like football adversity,
you could deal with that real life adversity. You think
of somebody who's sick, some you know, close family member.
That's real stuff right there. So the football stuff we
can handle that, We'll chop it up, move on to
the next. That's kind of how I go about things.
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And I am a firm believer that God already has
the plan written.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I just gotta just follow it. Oh, execute that's it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
The transition from OEU to South Carolina. That was I
had to be a roundtable decision when you talk to
your folks, like what's the move here? Yeah, when was
the When was the point where're like, we go, we
need to rip this band aid off, We needn't make
a change.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, I would say, you know, towards the end of
that season, you know, when everything went down at Oklahoma,
I just knew it was time for me to go.
You know, read the writing on the wall, and you know,
wanted a wanted a fresh opportunity somewhere, and South Carolina
happened to be the spot.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
There was a lot of other schools and they.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Running, but I knew coach Beemer had a lot of
respect for him when he was at OU, and I
was happy I made that decision to go there.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Who's a competitor that you idolize and try to mimic
some some some tools that you could put it to
your toolbox from.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, Oh, I mean there's a ton I you know,
love watching some of the great quarterbacks we play against,
you know, even this past year watching Matthew Stafford, watching
Mahomes play, watching you know, all these guys play. Yeah,
I got respect for all of them. You know, growing
up Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Guys like that.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
You try to just take a few few things from
their game and implement it in your own exactly couple
nuggets and uh, try to improve your own game.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So I think that's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You just got a big win.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
What are you doing after big win? Big win? Probably
going home chilling with the fan tired now hosts the
super Bowl. We're gonna turn up.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Would you consider yourself a gritty individual?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Gritty? Not really?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, I like to you know, yeah, I'm more smooth, chill,
more smooth, you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You read any books?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
When I need to bring the juice, I'll bring thee
Are you going to get you a.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Hat and we'll get you right on?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That's right. You read any books?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Podcasts? People that you David Doggins man, what do you like?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm not a Goggins guy.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Do you watch some podcasts? You know? Whatever pops up? Uh,
bring the juice?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I like history. I like learning about different things. And
I actually am gonna start reading books here soon.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Actually the book A. J. Brown was reading and I
ordered it Inner Excellence. I'm gonna start it.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You're gonna have to write one someday too.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Bro, I'm gonna write one one day.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Hey, I appreciate you, bro, Get you a hat, God speed.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Be'st the look this year. In the future, we'll get
you right.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Appreciate your brother.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
I'm super excited sit down with it. You know, NFL VET,
longtime player, kind of a guy I looked up to
when I was moving through my offensive line time looking
at guys and then you know, first round draft pick,
it's in your pedigree.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm super fired up to sit down with you. Man.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
We're just a bunch of boys trying to get rowdy.
We wanted to bring you on because we know that's
what you're about.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
It sounds perfect for me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, absolutely, we're My best is.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
When I'm with a bunch of dudes trying to get routed.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That's right, man.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
I saw you walking around. I said, you know what,
I gotta go get him money. I think he fits
right in with the crowd that we're trying to have
the energy.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We're trying to have a lineman I was. I was
a center. Okay, this a little and professional rugby player.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Oh really, yes, sir, amazing, Yes, sir played a obviously
played football tales for details seventeen short little sin the
Lions didn't make it transition runing rugby, played rugby for
six years.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
We're about the same age pretty much. Well, no, you
went twenty fourteen seventeen in college. Yes, four years.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
You're you got drafted to in thirteen thirteen.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah, so obviously I'm a high spo offensive lineman looking
up like, here you go.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That guy plays ball the right way.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Dude, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Well, you're a center too, And as much as I
love tackles and guards, centers are the best. Centers can
calm down a room when you need it most. They
can get you on the same page with your buddies. Absolutely,
And there's nobody who I'm throwing more money to at
the end of the week than I need you to
slide with me, with me, with me.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That snapcat a little bit screw me.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
On the set of Rookie Year, playing against Nick Fairley
and Dominican Sue everyone, man, you know, pick your poison.
You're probably gonna lose either way. But if I had
Sue on my side, I'd be like, hey, Roberto, Roberto guards,
I'd be like con migo.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
What is the Okay, let's start college ball.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, what was the optimal move for you post win
in your time in college? How many beers? What kind
of beers? What's your game of choice? I don't listen.
I know you had a great career.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
In junior college. It was whoever's got the coldest beer?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Ye, respect that I was in California.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
Respect that was probably the move. Love that And it
was a lot of cold beers for me domestics. I
guess you could say cors Miller, Budwiser.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Stuff that goes down the goal.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
This was before they were giving you, you know, beer deals,
you know, so I'm only.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Check some beer deals.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
We were playing.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
We were playing basketball at the city parks for twenty bucks. Yeah,
and we'd be able to buy whatever we wanted with it.
And we play a lot of basketball. So we played
hard and we and we worked hard. But I would
say when I got to the NFL, it was playing
downtown Chicago. We lived an hour north of the city.
So whatever vice you were into, make it so they
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could get you an hour drive home.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yep, So it would be a big dip.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Maybe I'd have a couple of road sodas in the
passenger seat, make my buddy drive home. But you know
that feeling after a game, especially after a win, but
even after losses you get to decompress after a long week.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
To just give me a beer about it. I just
need a beer about it.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
I think that's one thing about off the line. We're
a low maintenance Yeah, dude, like it does not take
a lot to to like after I go beat my
face in, probably think way too hard about too many calls.
I just want a twelve packer in front of me,
a couples ins, maybe some chew in the time and
just ay, yes, I want to talk for the next hour.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
And some guys. Some guys want to talk about the game. Hey,
I don't know about you. I can't remember the game.
Did we win or lose?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
What was the score? Who had the ball last?
Speaker 8 (13:24):
Doesn't matter because at the end of the day, all
we're looking to do is kick our feet up, take
our shoes off, have a nice cold one, watch the
Sunday night game, and make a plan for Monday night,
which is probably gonna be O line dinner.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, nice line dinner. Monday night.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
We'd always go to Tilted kilt or twin Peaks. Yes,
we're a big twin peak and.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
A rugby crew used to go twin Peaks in Seattle set.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It was a lot of purple hair, lots of purple
hair up there.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
We we used to have to go out as if
we had a former Seal Team six guy you know
that used to be like our security team manager. You know,
it's a low funded rugby league. We just started twenty
and eighteen. It's seven years in.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
That's gat We'll figure it out, right.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
But he'd be like, hey, fellas, I brought one of
my guys with you. Make sure you guys go check
the back of his truck out, pulls his trunk open,
he goes, yeah, I'm retired police officer. Presses a button,
just seven a R and Wicks John Wick, and he goes, yeah,
you're in the streets, fellas. When my boys in town,
we make sure the boys are taking care of That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, I wish we had more guys like that.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
You know, if they let us take out that John
Wick Arsenal at the offensive line, we'd be less sore
at the end of the game, justapping exactly.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Somebody the other day was like how do.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
You stop Patrick Mahomes in the super I said, kidnap him,
like abduct him maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And find out where you're staying a couple up for
the game. Make sure he's sick.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
You know they used to they used to ask me like,
what's our you know, what's our game plan for Aaron Donald?
And I'd be like a taser however many how many
extra licks?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Like as much as I even.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Samurai sword high where you hit him with the taser.
He doesn't go down.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
He's a dude where he ain't like that hangover seat.
He's big.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Fellas need an extra dose.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Right in the face, babe.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
That Rob Wringle.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Hey, yes, sick classic he Actually we have this thing
called juice golf, and uh what it is is so
we weren't want to play be one on one someone
wins the hole. So if I win the hole, I
picked your punishment. There's four punishments. You either dome a fireball,
shot you shot in a beer. You gotta throw you
can we could put some long cut in for you,
but usually you gotta throws in in. But the zins
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accumulate seem I might you finning the last.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Ball fireball, fireball well, there's a strategy. There's an up
and down.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
In the sea.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Exact man with the newest thing. We implemented the taser,
the tasers. So we're bringing taser out on the golf
course and doctor Watts comes out being fireball.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
All No, but I picked your punishment.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I had to pick my own punishment.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
I would be like fireball, fireball, fire ball, and then
at the end I'd be like, somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Takes me, give it to me.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Usually that's how we feel.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So see one of our boys. We hit Bourbon Street
too hard last night. He needs he needs like he
was out a little rowdy last night. We really hate
brother the dartner's neck last night.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
The best availability is or the best ability is availability.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
So far getting right, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, he actually owes me a baldy because he goes,
oh broah, don't taste me.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
I have a heart a baldi oh baldy.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay, we used to we used to your eye.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
That's that god cut. We do that god cut.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We did, Hey, but how much over once you accept it?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
He's gotta be dude.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
I was twenty one uh in junior college and it
was time I took my helmet off, and I had
a bunch of hair in my helmet, and I started
wearing hats all the time, hats hats, hats hats. And
then the combine came along and I was in the
hotel room the night before the combine. There's another alignment
in there who I just met that week, and he's like,
what are you gonna do tomorrow? And I was like,
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what do you mean. I was like, I'm gonna run fast.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
He was like, but you got to take that hat off.
Everybody's gonna see that dome. So we went to the
CVS in Indianapolis. This is before instacart, where we had
to actually had a walk talk somewhere, you know, and
we bought some some cheese Biic razors and bicked my head.
That was the first time I had a BIC was
at the combine.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You ran faster though I was an aerodynamics.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
It was a good day on home eventually, and once
I did that, I was like, this is my look.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
And then I got a beard and I was like.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh sexy now, baby.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Yeah, you know, there's no turning back.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
I'd be remiss to say, you know, it's a little cheeky.
As a former old Lineman. But you know, old Lineman,
we're big.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We're big. Roots were aaron. We had lettuce and collect
We blow up after after we're done playing.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
There's something to that because I make the comparison.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I talked to a lot of people and all the
dB men they love eating their candy. They they'll their diet.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Is a trojan fat running backs go back because they
stop running.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
They blow up because they have the same meeting house.
O Limon are like, I don't have to cram five
thousand calories.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Bodies know that we don't need all this. Absolutely it
falls off of us.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Like at Joe Thomas and all these dudes ballar a
baller marciall Yan does like a marathon, or.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Yes, the enduro athletes, but we'd be remiss. I was
over there watching you hit some swings. Okay, you know
you might have. You might he hasn't really been beaten
in juice golf yet. You might be able to get
you might be.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I want to play.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
This is not a good golfer, man, It's just it's
just fun. Now.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You could put someone in the spin cycle really fairly,
like throw up as happened on greens. What's your tolerance
I don't know how many beers another one.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
I'm just saying we haven't gotten there. Maybe we get
there at the at the pro am. Yeah, yeah, it'd
be fun.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We had a nice ice lodge. What was it last year?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It was like if you could, if you could, we
had a whole last year where if you deleted a
beard under what was it three like four three seconds,
you got a free hat on the spot. And I'll
tell you what technique pioneers. Pioneers one guy do the hortex?
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Does the vortex? Yeah, and then he like licks his fingers,
you know the guy. Yeah, I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that looks awesome. I don't have that my bag.
The methods of consumption have changed, you know what.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
I gotta learn it when we got away from just
peer Like, hey, I'm gonna poke a hole in the
bottom of this can and delete this thing real quick now.
Now if there's a little bit of showmanship to it,
I'm like, hey, to.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Be honest, I have shotgun anxiety, do you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:03):
I've never been like I never know which key to use.
I never know when to crack it. Do you have
the hole on top or the bottom? When you have
it on the side. There are all questions. I'm afraid
to ask. I'm just a messy shot high.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
When you start once people start cracking them and someone
next to you does it right, You're like, now, I'm on.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
This was a Dick Cheney who got somebody with a shotgun. Yes,
that's kind of like me. You could get messy shotgun.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
My freshman year, we had this fake fraternity because frats
were being frats in college at this point. It was
after a loss. We had a tough we had a
tough run man. We went one and eleven my freshman year.
His sophomore year, yeah, after a game I was it
was a springball Saturday. We said, boys, we need to
act it. We need to bring someone's gotta set the tone.
Him and mister James Bailly over there, take two gold
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four locos, back to back, shotgun to the dome.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Deleted and probably under fourteen second. I have the video. No, no,
just like a saturdayball.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
You get your weights in, get our juice, you got
your juicehigh, I got juice. It's eleven o'clock and it's
a beautiful day in the spring in Fresno.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The sun's out.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
We had a giant pine tree in the backyard under
her thrown and die. You know, coach sat us down
before this meeting and looked this at Theruyd and pretty
much called this.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Shut the door.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Today. Wasn't good enough? Fellas? That least me be a
good question. What's one of the most you've been sitting.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
In a meeting room? You know, I don't you know,
I've never made the NFL. I don't know if, but
in college, have you ever been sitting to me room
and heard another coach eating at somebody's like you're just like, yo,
that's talent.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Like that coach strung some words together there right there
that really hit to the heart teams, right.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
It was never anybody that stood out to me more
in terms of like the critique wasn't loud, but the
critique was so honest. Yes, Vic Fangio, Okay, really it's
coordinator Philadelphia Eagles. First off, when Matt Naggy became the
coach of the Bears, I was I was one of
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the vets on the team. He let me break down
the first spring post practice huddle, and I was like,
oh damn it.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Everybody picked me. That was pretty good. So we broke
it down.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
Bears on three and we and we leave the huddle
and Fangio grabs me by the arm and he's about
up to my waist and.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
He goes, you didn't deserve that. He's your there's forty
guys out here working harder than you. And I was like, damn,
well damn.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
And then you watch him coach up his defensive players.
He doesn't have to yell. He's the mob boss. That's
just like, if he gives you the look, you understand
where he's coming from.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I think that's big.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'm like a Davy Seal my grandfather. He's got one
leg and he's out here for you. Get a water board, man,
we're gonna turn around. I'm like Grahams. We're in California.
I can only do so much to that. We got
the podcast, talk to the government.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
He's the world. Yeah, right, world, Hey.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Water, we're gonna open the what are we even doing?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Aqueducts? We're up over you out here, Bagon.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
That's funny, man, Well, this is fun. Thank you guy.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
We really appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Man, Glad I came back over here. You guys are awesome.
The man Hey you too, brother, luck with everything, sir
up Man let's linked up.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
We'll do thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Sure, all right, all right out here poison fund up,
we're plopping right now. I got my god, Josh Kakers,
I got slave Boling hosting right now, let's stay out.
Just say what you got for your guys.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Man.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
One of the not only the best people I've been around,
but one of the best just all around athletes. And
what I think not only like we kind of relate
with each other with like your story, man, that's it's
just it's so impressive because you know, I grew up
in a broken household, like addictive parents, and for you
to kind of get through that, go through that adversity
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and then also similar to me play quarterback, you know, underlooked,
undersize even though you were a dog in high school.
But you know you you didn't get the bam off
until Sun and day right.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
So that's funny because I actually never really told this
part of the story, but SAVING actually just told it
like a week or two ago, like I had no
stars Broye. And then so like when cous Burns came
in and watched me play, I was I was hoping, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like I seen him coming in.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
I'm like, oh yeah, I heard you a nice too, bunny.
Speaker 10 (23:03):
I had a couple a couple of small D one
scholarships for basketball, but he came in and watched me
play man, and they took a chance on me. And
and I tell people all the time, man, the thing
that I remember most sitting down with saving was we
never talked about football. He sat me down and he
told me like, Okay, this is what I could do
to help your life, and this is how I can
make you grow as a man. And that's what really
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sold me.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
And look same here because at the end of the day,
now only did I want to compete with the best,
play against the best, but what's gonna make me, uh
the best player I can be, but the best man
I can be? And I think playing for Coach Saban,
playing Obama, that is exactly the best place for that
to happen. And so you go to Obama. You're in
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a loaded running back room with my dolls too, everybody's dolls.
Similar to me. I was around five first round receiver,
you know what I mean. So it's like it's so
hard to kind of make your way and get your
opportunity to you know, at least get on the field
and make something shake. And that's exactly what you're able
to do. Because I felt like every time he touched
that rock in college it was gonna be explosive to
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the purpose.
Speaker 11 (24:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
So like being in that room and being you know,
not maybe the starter every Saturday, but being around those
guys like Dame and and and Derek and Bow and
all these guys that he played with and shooting Naugie. Yeah,
I mean, and to listen be rob, I mean, we
had so many guys. How do you think that shaped
you as a player to help you, like at the
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next level.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Man, believe it, believe it or not.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
So like coming into college, like I said, I was,
I had no stars, So like I didn't really know.
I went to Bama really to prove to myself that
I belonged. I went to prove that I could play
at the highest level with the with the.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
With the greatest. I mean, we came in.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
Bj Emmis was the number one running back, maybe even
the number one athlete in football that year, and he
came and I'm like, this is the guy I'm gonna
have to compete with. On top of Bow, Bo and Damien,
you know what I'm saying, so was gone, but like
he still was around.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So I was like man like coming in.
Speaker 10 (25:07):
And then I just remembered like I was with the
tools and the two's always got to go against the ones. Yeah,
during camp, and I remember have a scrimmage every like
Saturday leading up and I remember I was like, I
scored twice and I was the only only running back
to score in the day. And then everybody just kept asking.
I was like, bro, who the little dude with the frog?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I came in my hair, I come here off.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
But like I came in at Bama, I was like
one eighty, So like I put on thirty pounds while
I was there.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
But the thing about it, like you say, either you build,
is that it's gonna build you, it's gonna break you.
Speaker 10 (25:44):
And it was just one of those situations where if
you masth inticity, if you did everything that saving would
tell you, balled in. You went to school like everything
that he taught you, like financial literacy, all of these
things that you knew that you was gonna become out
a better person. And I remember my junior year when
my coaches was coming up to me, like on the
slide and they was like, man, you need to leave.
And I'm like, leave, I'm not even a starter, Like
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what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Leave? And he was like we hearing you got a
first round grade? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (26:11):
And then I left. In was the first running back
took off the board. I mean, you know, guy has everything. Yeah,
it's this move.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
What And that's why because when you did get that opportunity,
you took full advantage. And similar to me and you
like the reason, I was not like you wanted to
prove hey, I belong here, I could play. I was
always say this. I was never worried about proving people wrong.
I was worried about proving myself right right and being
around those guys that I played with, all those first
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round picks. I would have never been the receiver I
became if I was never around those.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Guys like you.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
I was a wildcat basically wildcat quarterback and I got
to be your best come on and never really play receiver.
So man, it's so great to hear that story. And
then you know, you go first round, right, go to
the Raiders. Not the best team, best organization, you know,
like as in success wise, not the best O line,
but you still just put up numbers and still just
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like I was talking to chat you know, our agent,
and just being like man like and that after the content,
it don't matter if it's a red sea or that
it stuffed to the line. You're gonna make something shake
and get through there. And man like, this year unbelievable,
but like tell me, like kind of that process of
you know, playing with the Raiders and then you know,
kind of not having success and now going with Green Bay,
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who's a very successful organization and a better you know offense, yea,
and yeah, just with.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Me, man like, I was always one of them guys
where I wanted to play at one place. I wanted
to always view Kobe like he played one place. Yeah,
I wanted to do that. But you know, after a while,
when you start winning all the individual accolades, you start
getting all these awards and things like that, Like the
only thing you start to think about is like, I
want to win, Like when I want to win, like
I want to be the team at the end of
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the year hosting up the trophy. I want to be
one of them guys where you talk about legacy, you
talk about playoffs, you talk about all of these things.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I wanted to be a part of that. I want
to see what that felt like.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
So when it was tom for me to make the decision,
you know, free agency to leave or not, I'm like, Okay,
I'm one of two guys that's the face of this organization.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Literally the faces I've been I've been.
Speaker 10 (28:23):
So I'm like, man, like, what more do I have
to prove to y'all that I belong here?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You know?
Speaker 10 (28:28):
So when Green Bay came in, I knew it was
like a breath of fresh air. I knew they had
a lot of young guys with a lot of talent.
I knew they had a great quarterback. I'm like, okay,
let me go experience this out And just happened the
ball last year?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Man, and I left a lot on the table. I'll
be telling people all.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
The time, well, because that's what makes you great.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Come on, man, I left a lot on the table,
probably like three hundred four hundre yards.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
But man, that still was a great season.
Speaker 11 (28:52):
Hell yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Player at a high level where Alabama essentially is an
NFL team in college, did you have a welcome to
the league moment?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Welcome to the league?
Speaker 10 (29:04):
I know, I know in college I definitely had a
welcome to Ruben Foster that I've ever saying to this day,
thought you the only one that I could compare him
to is Fred Warner to this day, the best I've
ever since. But I would say my welcome to the
league probably my rookie year. I was in Minnesota playing
against the Vikings that time. They hold defense. I played
together for at least four or five years. Some chemistry
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when I say, like my first option, my second option,
my third option all gone. Like he wasn't hitting hard,
but like everybody was in the right spot. I'm like,
that was the most frustrating game of my career. I'm
sitting on the silne like, what do you want me
to do?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like for real?
Speaker 6 (29:44):
That was good?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, like anything, adversity's gonna strike, whatever city strikes,
what's your goal to how you're gonna respond?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Man?
Speaker 10 (29:54):
So me personally, man like, I pray, you know, Like
that's the thing that calms me down. Like even in
the morning, I got a ten minute drive to work,
I pray every.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Morning on my roots on the way to work.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Love that bro, But for me, I always too in
up pray and then I look back and I'll be like, man,
I've been through way way harder life.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
Like, so like I kind of look at the grand
scheme of things like this is this peanuts? You know
what I'm saying. So that's kind of the thing that
I try to do. I try to look at it
from a from a bigger perspective and then normally too
in my experience, whenever you go through something hard, in
that moment, it feels hard, but when you get out
of you and you look back on you like it
wasn't that bad. I could do it nothing and do it,
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you know what I'm saying, So like it is what
it is.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Bro, Josh so crazy man, Like it's funny how it
had it got to a podcast for us to kind
of hear this and for me personally, man, because like
the more you talk and more you talk about like
not only you know what your your upbringing and how
you got through adversity with that, but also you know,
dealing with adversity now.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Bro, I just it's like we're like the same dude.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Like I swear like it's crazy how the Lord works,
because that's one thing like when I know, like when
I'm sitting there and I'm a free agent, and I'm like, man, like,
am I done? It is my career over? I look back,
I pray, and I'm like, man, I'm blessed. Like, man,
the amount of experiences the people I've met, not many
people have, barely any people have been able to experience
those kind of things.
Speaker 11 (31:17):
And I'm like, why am I complaining? You know?
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Why am I worried about what's next? Like I'm good,
Like I've been so busted. So I man, that's I
really love hearing that because at the end of the day,
I think that is the best way you could do whatever.
You know, go meditate, you can go read books yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Self talk whatever, let's bring the juice to calm.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, of course we'll get you fired up.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Yeah, But the end of the day, it's like it's
it's all here, and it's like you got to kind
of come to realization that, man, everything's gonna be fine.
As long as I am doing what I'm supposed to
be doing is the best of my ability, It's all
gonna work out.
Speaker 11 (31:51):
So I love hearing that. Jobs man, for real.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Going through the motions is something too many people do
in this world. Yeah, you guys obviously are held at
a higher standard. Josh, I know you got goals. How
do you write? How do you set your goals and
what your plan to achieve them? Let's choose this upcoming
season as an example.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
You know what's crazy, Like I tell people, and I
might be the weirdest person when it comes to this,
but like I never set goals for myself. But also
but I also never I also never set limitations on myself.
I believe in like it's a bar if I if
I come in and I do what I'm supposed to
do on a day to day basis, everything is going
to play out how it's supposed to play out, and
like whatever whatever it looked like, I can live with
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because I know that I came and attack the day
each day.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So that's kind of how I view it.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I honestly, after hearing you say that, it's the truth,
because what are you gonna do, like at the end
of the day, Okay, I got.
Speaker 11 (32:41):
Goals, Yeah, what's great.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
All I know is I gotta wake up and run
through the.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Best version. If you're out there and you got time
on your hands still, but you're not being the best
version of yourself. You can't leave you can't leave cheddar
on the table.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Like that, not at all.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
I think certain goals is great, right, but at the
in the day, for me, it's like, no, that's not enough.
I gotta go get it. Like we both come from nothing.
I'm like, how am I gonna change the trajectory of
my kids life and my family? My last name? I
can't just sit them. I want to make this amount
of money. I want to achieve this goal. I want
to get this award. Yeah, but what's next? That's not enough.
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And I think that's just you know, saving helped us
and instilled those values in us. But I think just
how you know, we me and you both bringing you
going through a versity at a young age. It's like
you learn and you you you battle and you eventually
it's like, hey, I gotta do this. I gotta go
get this no matter what. Like Frank said, if somebody's
in the way, I'm gonna run through their face.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Man.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
And that's the thing, like I tell people all the time,
I like me in any situation. Yeah, you feel me
Like I believe it myself because I know that I
prepared and I took the time to experience things and
field things out to be able to know that I'm
gonna be okay in any in anything I experienced, So
no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I feel like the running back position has got disrespected lately.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
Yeah, I know we're gonna talk about this.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I'm sure you talked to a few of the other
dudes around the league. Obviously a lot of them come
through the Bamba pipeline. Yeah, do you all have a
group message you all discussed and said, hey, we need
to get some respect.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
We did it. We did like a year or two ago.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
We all sat down all the really all the running backs,
and we had a zoom call, a couple of zoom
calls about just basically where the market was heading and
how we viewed it and how we feel like we
valued and things like that. But obviously, you know, with
the type of year running backs had this year, the
type of the way that the teams depended on them,
like every team that was in the playoffs ran the ball,
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things like that, I think the market is in good hands.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Man.
Speaker 10 (34:38):
You see what Sakuwa is doing. You see what besign
jamir uh, you know kay ren Uh. You know all
of these guys that's coming up to get paid is
doing so, Like, I think the market is gonna be
in good hands, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Last thing, I lied, what's the most rocking atmosphere you've
been in part of in your football career?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Rocking like pure juice?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Right?
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Mind here for the same one unless it's.
Speaker 10 (35:02):
It's either it's either BAMA at night or ls SHU
at night. Yeah, LSU at night. That value in the
league compares to it? Nah, Bro, It's different. Bro, In
college atmosphere is way different than the league. Like the
league get some places, it get crazy, but it's.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Still not the same.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
But you also gotta think it's about three hundred four hundred,
I mean, not thirty to forty thousand more fans in
the college stadium.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's like yeah, yeah, bro, Like it's just different. It
is different, Yosh.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I know you do.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Today, Bro, we'll blink out.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
We'll get you some merch, get you some hots golf.
Oh yeah, I'm okay. I saw a game is good. Hey,
Hey hey look I just put it on display too.
Bout a while.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Tournament every year, celebrity program.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Take care of you, bro. Yeah, And I was hearing
about some friends though, right, it's sure yeah man might have. Yeah,
let me appreciate you, appreciate y'all.
All right, all right, all right, we got the legend here.
Five's are electre Kurt Warner, welcome to bring the juice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's get after it. Baby.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Let's start off with the obvious here. You just had
to sell who's going to Fresnoe's State. We're Fresno State boys.
What do you know about Fresnoe State?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I can't say I know a lot about it other
than that you know kind of the history. You understand
the attention that the program has had. You understand some
of the great names that have come out of Fresno State.
So when EJ had the opportunity to talk to them
and go visit, I was extremely excited. I mean, I'm
excited about what the history has been. Coach EN's obviously
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has done a great job in the places he's been
of building programs and winning championships.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So I'm excited. I'm I'm pumped, and it's.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Close to the home, which makes it nice for me
and and EJ is is pumped to get started and
get back to playing football.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Absolutely, Kurt.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What would you say is when adversity strikes in your life,
what's the what's your go to?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What's your mindset?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How do you get to where you need to be
when that moment happens.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
For me, when I went through all the stuff that
I went through, where it all started with is who
I knew I was, what I believed about myself. And
you know, we have a saying in our family that
never let your circumstances define you. That I think it's
so easy for us to look at where we're at,
or look at what's going on around us and let
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that be the defining factor on you know, I'm working
in a grocery store. Oh, you can't play in the
NFL because you're working in a grocery store.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No I can.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I have the talent to work to play in the NFL.
It's just right now, I'm in a grocery store because
this is where I find myself, or playing Arena football
or Europe. And so to me, it was never about circumstances.
And I think in life too often we let our
circumstances dictate what we think about ourselves instead of saying, no,
I know who I am, believe in who I am,
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and now I'm going to press through because sometimes we
find ourselves in those situations.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I always say, most people have their supermarket moment. Like,
people look at my journey in the NFL and go, man,
he did it so different. But if you look at
most people's journey in life, it's very similar to mine.
Where you have times where you're in places you don't
want to be and you don't know how you got there,
but you know you're not going to end there. That's
just where I'm at right now, and I'll take the
first step. So to me, it was always about believing
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in who I was, staying true to that, and then
working through the circumstances I found myself in.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Did you real back to that grocery store.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I've been back a few times.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yes, yes, guys look at you a little different now.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I mean I think they do.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But again, I.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Think it's one thing that's really connected me with a
lot of people, was you know that I did have
that moment and I had that struggle, and you know,
I found myself in a place I didn't know how
I even got there, Like I was, you know, three
weeks before that, I was in Green Bay's training camp
and I'm thinking, here we are. You know, I'm this
close to my dream and now I'm working in a
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grocery store. But but I don't. I don't look at
a lot. I just look at it like it's life.
This is what happened. And I don't go back there
and know you look what I did, or go back
and you know, gain some kind of inspiration. It's just
really life throws different things at you, and we all
have different paths and different journeys, and it's about navigating
those things. And when your opportunity comes, you're ready for it.
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You believe in who you are, you're confident in it,
and you go and chase it.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
A strike with irons hot, baby, have to have to.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Now that ball's done, how are you being the best
version of yourself you could possibly be?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Every day?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think the goal And it's funny because it's something
I think I learned when I was in a grocery store,
is that you know, at the end of the night,
we always had to face the aisle, which simply means
we take all of our product and we pull it
to the front of the aisle and then we turn
the label. So when you walk in and get your soup,
you know if it's tomato or chicken noodle or whatever. Right,
And I remember, you know, thinking to myself when I
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was in that grocery store, like, all right, at the
end of the night, I am going to have the
best faced aisle. My eye was going to look the
cleanest of any aisle in the store. And I know
when John or Jim or Susie walk into Aisle seven
the next day at six am, not one of them
is going to say, Wow, look at this, this aisle
is clean. Nobody's gonna do that. But to me, it
was about a mindset of excellence.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yes, this is.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Where I'm at, don't want to be here, but I'm
gonna be excellent at it. And so that became my
mindset in everything that I do. So now, whether it
was playing in the NFL or now it's retired, or
doing the stuff I do on TV or on radio,
or even being a parent or being a husband, it's
about trying to be excellent at even the littlest things,
excellent at everything that I do. And so that's my
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mindset whenever I take on any challenge, any task, and
that's to me becomes what.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Life's all about.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Is wherever you're at, whatever you're doing, be great at it,
Chase it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Chase great is it, be the best version of yourself
you could possibly be every day.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Last thing for you.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Now that you're done playing Bold and you're in the
media industry and you're chasing to be the best version
yourself in that side of things.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
What are some tools in your toolbox that you views.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
To help elevating your game, whether it is as a
father or as a husband, as as whatever it is
in your life do you reference?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Are you a David Gogin's guy? What do you got
for me?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
You know, the biggest thing for me is I always
ask myself, how are.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You going to separate yourself? Have to?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So when I was playing, it was like, Okay, you
can't do whatever. You're not Patrick Mahomes, You're not Lamar Jack,
so quit trying to be them. But what do you
have that can separate you?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I do the same thing now that I do analysts work.
I look at it and go, Okay, how am I
gonna do it differently? How am I gonna say? How
am I going to be able to bring different knowledge
than who have a five hundred million people that are
out there doing the same thing. And so it's my
approach every day is what are you gonna do that's different?
Look at yourself and go, what.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Do you have?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What skills do you have that can separate you from
everybody else? And so that's kind of my mindset with
whatever I do. You know, how do you separate yourself
as a husband? How do you separate yourself as a
father from other people? And even though it's not about
compare and it's simply just about chasing and looking at
things a different way than everybody else. Might you know
I'm not just sitting going Okay, so and so does
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it this way, and this guy does it this way.
Let me be just as good as them. No, I'm like, okay,
they do it that way. How can I separate myself
from them? And so people want to tune in and
want to listen to what I have to say, or
or want to watch me and emulate how I live
or my marriage or whatever because we do it differently.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
All right, oh light, all right, we're back here radio role.
I got my guy, Spencer rather with Spencer nice arting
into you less a Burmont Street. It's a nice town.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I like the area.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I might get it a little little spot out here.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Let's dive right into it. Man.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You know your journey the hype started early.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Peop. Don't really talk about.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The mental side of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
How was it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Having that pressure on you at such a young age.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I enjoyed it, you know, I really enjoyed it, you know,
as a younger guy, highly recruit, do whatever. I think
it kind of prepared me for college and in the NFL, right,
you know, because now there's more pressure than anything. So
I think it's prepared me. And I thank God that
that I was in that position. Everything happens for a reason.
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You got your journey. When versity strikes now in your life,
how do you respond?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Adversity has struck in my.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Life, it's already happened, like I've already gone through it.
So football adversity is different than life adversity. Like football adversity,
you could deal with that real life adversity. You think
of somebody who's sick, some you know, close family member.
That's real stuff right there. So the football stuff we
can handle that, We'll chop it up, move on to
the next. That's kind of how I go about things.
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And I am a firm believer that God already has
the plan written.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I just gotta just follow it. Oh, execute that's it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
The transition from OEU to South Carolina. That was I
had to be a roundtable decision when you talk to
your folks, like what's the move here? Yeah, when was
the When was the point where're like, we go, we
need to rip this band aid off, We needn't make
a change.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, I would say, you know, towards the end of
that season, you know, when everything went down at Oklahoma,
I just knew it was time for me to go.
You know, read the writing on the wall, and you know,
wanted a wanted a fresh opportunity somewhere, and South Carolina
happened to be the spot.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
There was a lot of other schools and they.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Running, but I knew coach Beemer had a lot of
respect for him when he was at OU, and I
was happy I made that decision to go there.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Who's a competitor that you idolize and try to mimic
some some some tools that you could put it to
your toolbox from.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, Oh, I mean there's a ton I you know,
love watching some of the great quarterbacks we play against,
you know, even this past year watching Matthew Stafford, watching
Mahomes play, watching you know, all these guys play. Yeah,
I got respect for all of them. You know, growing
up Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Guys like that.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
You try to just take a few few things from
their game and implement it in your own exactly couple
nuggets and uh, try to improve your own game.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So I think that's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You just got a big win.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
What are you doing after big win? Big win? Probably
going home chilling with the fan tired now hosts the
super Bowl. We're gonna turn up.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Would you consider yourself a gritty individual?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Gritty? Not really?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, I like to you know, yeah, I'm more smooth, chill,
more smooth, you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You read any books?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
When I need to bring the juice, I'll bring thee
Are you going to get you a.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Hat and we'll get you right on?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That's right. You read any books?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Podcasts? People that you David Doggins man, what do you like?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm not a Goggins guy.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Do you watch some podcasts? You know? Whatever pops up? Uh,
bring the juice?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I like history. I like learning about different things. And
I actually am gonna start reading books here soon.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Actually the book A. J. Brown was reading and I
ordered it Inner Excellence. I'm gonna start it.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You're gonna have to write one someday too.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Bro, I'm gonna write one one day.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Hey, I appreciate you, bro, Get you a hat, God speed.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Be'st the look this year. In the future, we'll get
you right.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Appreciate your brother.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
I'm super excited sit down with it. You know, NFL VET,
longtime player, kind of a guy I looked up to
when I was moving through my offensive line time looking
at guys and then you know, first round draft pick,
it's in your pedigree.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm super fired up to sit down with you. Man.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
We're just a bunch of boys trying to get rowdy.
We wanted to bring you on because we know that's
what you're about.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
It sounds perfect for me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, absolutely, we're My best is.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
When I'm with a bunch of dudes trying to get routed.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That's right, man.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
I saw you walking around. I said, you know what,
I gotta go get him money. I think he fits
right in with the crowd that we're trying to have
the energy.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We're trying to have a lineman I was. I was
a center. Okay, this a little and professional rugby player.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Oh really, yes, sir, amazing, Yes, sir played a obviously
played football tales for details seventeen short little sin the
Lions didn't make it transition runing rugby, played rugby for
six years.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
We're about the same age pretty much. Well, no, you
went twenty fourteen seventeen in college. Yes, four years.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
You're you got drafted to in thirteen thirteen.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah, so obviously I'm a high spo offensive lineman looking
up like, here you go.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That guy plays ball the right way.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Dude, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Well, you're a center too, And as much as I
love tackles and guards, centers are the best. Centers can
calm down a room when you need it most. They
can get you on the same page with your buddies. Absolutely,
And there's nobody who I'm throwing more money to at
the end of the week than I need you to
slide with me, with me, with me.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That snapcat a little bit screw me.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
On the set of Rookie Year, playing against Nick Fairley
and Dominican Sue everyone, man, you know, pick your poison.
You're probably gonna lose either way. But if I had
Sue on my side, I'd be like, hey, Roberto, Roberto guards,
I'd be like con migo.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
What is the Okay, let's start college ball.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, what was the optimal move for you post win
in your time in college? How many beers? What kind
of beers? What's your game of choice? I don't listen.
I know you had a great career.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
In junior college. It was whoever's got the coldest beer?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Ye, respect that I was in California.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
Respect that was probably the move. Love that And it
was a lot of cold beers for me domestics. I
guess you could say cors Miller, Budwiser.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Stuff that goes down the goal.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
This was before they were giving you, you know, beer deals,
you know, so I'm only.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Check some beer deals.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
We were playing.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
We were playing basketball at the city parks for twenty bucks. Yeah,
and we'd be able to buy whatever we wanted with it.
And we play a lot of basketball. So we played
hard and we and we worked hard. But I would
say when I got to the NFL, it was playing
downtown Chicago. We lived an hour north of the city.
So whatever vice you were into, make it so they
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could get you an hour drive home.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yep, So it would be a big dip.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Maybe I'd have a couple of road sodas in the
passenger seat, make my buddy drive home. But you know
that feeling after a game, especially after a win, but
even after losses you get to decompress after a long week.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
To just give me a beer about it. I just
need a beer about it.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
I think that's one thing about off the line. We're
a low maintenance Yeah, dude, like it does not take
a lot to to like after I go beat my
face in, probably think way too hard about too many calls.
I just want a twelve packer in front of me,
a couples ins, maybe some chew in the time and
just ay, yes, I want to talk for the next hour.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
And some guys. Some guys want to talk about the game. Hey,
I don't know about you. I can't remember the game.
Did we win or lose?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
What was the score? Who had the ball last?
Speaker 8 (13:24):
Doesn't matter because at the end of the day, all
we're looking to do is kick our feet up, take
our shoes off, have a nice cold one, watch the
Sunday night game, and make a plan for Monday night,
which is probably gonna be O line dinner.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, nice line dinner. Monday night.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
We'd always go to Tilted kilt or twin Peaks. Yes,
we're a big twin peak and.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
A rugby crew used to go twin Peaks in Seattle set.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It was a lot of purple hair, lots of purple
hair up there.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
We we used to have to go out as if
we had a former Seal Team six guy you know
that used to be like our security team manager. You know,
it's a low funded rugby league. We just started twenty
and eighteen. It's seven years in.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
That's gat We'll figure it out, right.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
But he'd be like, hey, fellas, I brought one of
my guys with you. Make sure you guys go check
the back of his truck out, pulls his trunk open,
he goes, yeah, I'm retired police officer. Presses a button,
just seven a R and Wicks John Wick, and he goes, yeah,
you're in the streets, fellas. When my boys in town,
we make sure the boys are taking care of That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, I wish we had more guys like that.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
You know, if they let us take out that John
Wick Arsenal at the offensive line, we'd be less sore
at the end of the game, justapping exactly.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Somebody the other day was like how do.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
You stop Patrick Mahomes in the super I said, kidnap him,
like abduct him maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And find out where you're staying a couple up for
the game. Make sure he's sick.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
You know they used to they used to ask me like,
what's our you know, what's our game plan for Aaron Donald?
And I'd be like a taser however many how many
extra licks?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Like as much as I even.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Samurai sword high where you hit him with the taser.
He doesn't go down.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
He's a dude where he ain't like that hangover seat.
He's big.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Fellas need an extra dose.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Right in the face, babe.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
That Rob Wringle.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Hey, yes, sick classic he Actually we have this thing
called juice golf, and uh what it is is so
we weren't want to play be one on one someone
wins the hole. So if I win the hole, I
picked your punishment. There's four punishments. You either dome a fireball,
shot you shot in a beer. You gotta throw you
can we could put some long cut in for you,
but usually you gotta throws in in. But the zins
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accumulate seem I might you finning the last.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Ball fireball, fireball well, there's a strategy. There's an up
and down.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
In the sea.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Exact man with the newest thing. We implemented the taser,
the tasers. So we're bringing taser out on the golf
course and doctor Watts comes out being fireball.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
All No, but I picked your punishment.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I had to pick my own punishment.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
I would be like fireball, fireball, fire ball, and then
at the end I'd be like, somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Takes me, give it to me.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Usually that's how we feel.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So see one of our boys. We hit Bourbon Street
too hard last night. He needs he needs like he
was out a little rowdy last night. We really hate
brother the dartner's neck last night.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
The best availability is or the best ability is availability.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
So far getting right, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, he actually owes me a baldy because he goes,
oh broah, don't taste me.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
I have a heart a baldi oh baldy.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay, we used to we used to your eye.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
That's that god cut. We do that god cut.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We did, Hey, but how much over once you accept it?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
He's gotta be dude.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
I was twenty one uh in junior college and it
was time I took my helmet off, and I had
a bunch of hair in my helmet, and I started
wearing hats all the time, hats hats, hats hats. And
then the combine came along and I was in the
hotel room the night before the combine. There's another alignment
in there who I just met that week, and he's like,
what are you gonna do tomorrow? And I was like,
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what do you mean. I was like, I'm gonna run fast.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
He was like, but you got to take that hat off.
Everybody's gonna see that dome. So we went to the
CVS in Indianapolis. This is before instacart, where we had
to actually had a walk talk somewhere, you know, and
we bought some some cheese Biic razors and bicked my head.
That was the first time I had a BIC was
at the combine.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You ran faster though I was an aerodynamics.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
It was a good day on home eventually, and once
I did that, I was like, this is my look.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
And then I got a beard and I was like.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh sexy now, baby.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Yeah, you know, there's no turning back.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
I'd be remiss to say, you know, it's a little cheeky.
As a former old Lineman. But you know, old Lineman,
we're big.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We're big. Roots were aaron. We had lettuce and collect
We blow up after after we're done playing.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
There's something to that because I make the comparison.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I talked to a lot of people and all the
dB men they love eating their candy. They they'll their diet.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Is a trojan fat running backs go back because they
stop running.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
They blow up because they have the same meeting house.
O Limon are like, I don't have to cram five
thousand calories.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Bodies know that we don't need all this. Absolutely it
falls off of us.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Like at Joe Thomas and all these dudes ballar a
baller marciall Yan does like a marathon, or.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Yes, the enduro athletes, but we'd be remiss. I was
over there watching you hit some swings. Okay, you know
you might have. You might he hasn't really been beaten
in juice golf yet. You might be able to get
you might be.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I want to play.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
This is not a good golfer, man, It's just it's
just fun. Now.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You could put someone in the spin cycle really fairly,
like throw up as happened on greens. What's your tolerance
I don't know how many beers another one.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
I'm just saying we haven't gotten there. Maybe we get
there at the at the pro am. Yeah, yeah, it'd
be fun.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We had a nice ice lodge. What was it last year?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It was like if you could, if you could, we
had a whole last year where if you deleted a
beard under what was it three like four three seconds,
you got a free hat on the spot. And I'll
tell you what technique pioneers. Pioneers one guy do the hortex?
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Does the vortex? Yeah, and then he like licks his fingers,
you know the guy. Yeah, I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that looks awesome. I don't have that my bag.
The methods of consumption have changed, you know what.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
I gotta learn it when we got away from just
peer Like, hey, I'm gonna poke a hole in the
bottom of this can and delete this thing real quick now.
Now if there's a little bit of showmanship to it,
I'm like, hey, to.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Be honest, I have shotgun anxiety, do you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:03):
I've never been like I never know which key to use.
I never know when to crack it. Do you have
the hole on top or the bottom? When you have
it on the side. There are all questions. I'm afraid
to ask. I'm just a messy shot high.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
When you start once people start cracking them and someone
next to you does it right, You're like, now, I'm on.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
This was a Dick Cheney who got somebody with a shotgun. Yes,
that's kind of like me. You could get messy shotgun.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
My freshman year, we had this fake fraternity because frats
were being frats in college at this point. It was
after a loss. We had a tough we had a
tough run man. We went one and eleven my freshman year.
His sophomore year, yeah, after a game I was it
was a springball Saturday. We said, boys, we need to
act it. We need to bring someone's gotta set the tone.
Him and mister James Bailly over there, take two gold
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four locos, back to back, shotgun to the dome.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Deleted and probably under fourteen second. I have the video. No, no,
just like a saturdayball.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
You get your weights in, get our juice, you got
your juicehigh, I got juice. It's eleven o'clock and it's
a beautiful day in the spring in Fresno.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The sun's out.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
We had a giant pine tree in the backyard under
her thrown and die. You know, coach sat us down
before this meeting and looked this at Theruyd and pretty
much called this.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Shut the door.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Today. Wasn't good enough? Fellas? That least me be a
good question. What's one of the most you've been sitting.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
In a meeting room? You know, I don't you know,
I've never made the NFL. I don't know if, but
in college, have you ever been sitting to me room
and heard another coach eating at somebody's like you're just like, yo,
that's talent.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Like that coach strung some words together there right there
that really hit to the heart teams, right.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
It was never anybody that stood out to me more
in terms of like the critique wasn't loud, but the
critique was so honest. Yes, Vic Fangio, Okay, really it's
coordinator Philadelphia Eagles. First off, when Matt Naggy became the
coach of the Bears, I was I was one of
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the vets on the team. He let me break down
the first spring post practice huddle, and I was like,
oh damn it.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Everybody picked me. That was pretty good. So we broke
it down.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
Bears on three and we and we leave the huddle
and Fangio grabs me by the arm and he's about
up to my waist and.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
He goes, you didn't deserve that. He's your there's forty
guys out here working harder than you. And I was like, damn,
well damn.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
And then you watch him coach up his defensive players.
He doesn't have to yell. He's the mob boss. That's
just like, if he gives you the look, you understand
where he's coming from.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I think that's big.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'm like a Davy Seal my grandfather. He's got one
leg and he's out here for you. Get a water board, man,
we're gonna turn around. I'm like Grahams. We're in California.
I can only do so much to that. We got
the podcast, talk to the government.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
He's the world. Yeah, right, world, Hey.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Water, we're gonna open the what are we even doing?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Aqueducts? We're up over you out here, Bagon.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
That's funny, man, Well, this is fun. Thank you guy.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
We really appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Man, Glad I came back over here. You guys are awesome.
The man Hey you too, brother, luck with everything, sir
up Man let's linked up.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
We'll do thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Sure, all right, all right out here poison fund up,
we're plopping right now. I got my god, Josh Kakers,
I got slave Boling hosting right now, let's stay out.
Just say what you got for your guys.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Man.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
One of the not only the best people I've been around,
but one of the best just all around athletes. And
what I think not only like we kind of relate
with each other with like your story, man, that's it's
just it's so impressive because you know, I grew up
in a broken household, like addictive parents, and for you
to kind of get through that, go through that adversity
(22:31):
and then also similar to me play quarterback, you know, underlooked,
undersize even though you were a dog in high school.
But you know you you didn't get the bam off
until Sun and day right.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
So that's funny because I actually never really told this
part of the story, but SAVING actually just told it
like a week or two ago, like I had no
stars Broye. And then so like when cous Burns came
in and watched me play, I was I was hoping, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like I seen him coming in.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
I'm like, oh yeah, I heard you a nice too, bunny.
Speaker 10 (23:03):
I had a couple a couple of small D one
scholarships for basketball, but he came in and watched me
play man, and they took a chance on me. And
and I tell people all the time, man, the thing
that I remember most sitting down with saving was we
never talked about football. He sat me down and he
told me like, Okay, this is what I could do
to help your life, and this is how I can
make you grow as a man. And that's what really
(23:24):
sold me.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
And look same here because at the end of the day,
now only did I want to compete with the best,
play against the best, but what's gonna make me, uh
the best player I can be, but the best man
I can be? And I think playing for Coach Saban,
playing Obama, that is exactly the best place for that
to happen. And so you go to Obama. You're in
(23:46):
a loaded running back room with my dolls too, everybody's dolls.
Similar to me. I was around five first round receiver,
you know what I mean. So it's like it's so
hard to kind of make your way and get your
opportunity to you know, at least get on the field
and make something shake. And that's exactly what you're able
to do. Because I felt like every time he touched
that rock in college it was gonna be explosive to
(24:07):
the purpose.
Speaker 11 (24:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
So like being in that room and being you know,
not maybe the starter every Saturday, but being around those
guys like Dame and and and Derek and Bow and
all these guys that he played with and shooting Naugie. Yeah,
I mean, and to listen be rob, I mean, we
had so many guys. How do you think that shaped
you as a player to help you, like at the
(24:31):
next level.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Man, believe it, believe it or not.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
So like coming into college, like I said, I was,
I had no stars, So like I didn't really know.
I went to Bama really to prove to myself that
I belonged. I went to prove that I could play
at the highest level with the with the.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
With the greatest. I mean, we came in.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
Bj Emmis was the number one running back, maybe even
the number one athlete in football that year, and he
came and I'm like, this is the guy I'm gonna
have to compete with. On top of Bow, Bo and Damien,
you know what I'm saying, so was gone, but like
he still was around.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So I was like man like coming in.
Speaker 10 (25:07):
And then I just remembered like I was with the
tools and the two's always got to go against the ones. Yeah,
during camp, and I remember have a scrimmage every like
Saturday leading up and I remember I was like, I
scored twice and I was the only only running back
to score in the day. And then everybody just kept asking.
I was like, bro, who the little dude with the frog?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I came in my hair, I come here off.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
But like I came in at Bama, I was like
one eighty, So like I put on thirty pounds while
I was there.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
But the thing about it, like you say, either you build,
is that it's gonna build you, it's gonna break you.
Speaker 10 (25:44):
And it was just one of those situations where if
you masth inticity, if you did everything that saving would
tell you, balled in. You went to school like everything
that he taught you, like financial literacy, all of these
things that you knew that you was gonna become out
a better person. And I remember my junior year when
my coaches was coming up to me, like on the
slide and they was like, man, you need to leave.
And I'm like, leave, I'm not even a starter, Like
(26:06):
what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Leave? And he was like we hearing you got a
first round grade? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (26:11):
And then I left. In was the first running back
took off the board. I mean, you know, guy has everything. Yeah,
it's this move.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
What And that's why because when you did get that opportunity,
you took full advantage. And similar to me and you
like the reason, I was not like you wanted to
prove hey, I belong here, I could play. I was
always say this. I was never worried about proving people wrong.
I was worried about proving myself right right and being
around those guys that I played with, all those first
(26:40):
round picks. I would have never been the receiver I
became if I was never around those.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Guys like you.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
I was a wildcat basically wildcat quarterback and I got
to be your best come on and never really play receiver.
So man, it's so great to hear that story. And
then you know, you go first round, right, go to
the Raiders. Not the best team, best organization, you know,
like as in success wise, not the best O line,
but you still just put up numbers and still just
(27:09):
like I was talking to chat you know, our agent,
and just being like man like and that after the content,
it don't matter if it's a red sea or that
it stuffed to the line. You're gonna make something shake
and get through there. And man like, this year unbelievable,
but like tell me, like kind of that process of
you know, playing with the Raiders and then you know,
kind of not having success and now going with Green Bay,
(27:31):
who's a very successful organization and a better you know offense, yea,
and yeah, just with.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Me, man like, I was always one of them guys
where I wanted to play at one place. I wanted
to always view Kobe like he played one place. Yeah,
I wanted to do that. But you know, after a while,
when you start winning all the individual accolades, you start
getting all these awards and things like that, Like the
only thing you start to think about is like, I
want to win, Like when I want to win, like
I want to be the team at the end of
(27:59):
the year hosting up the trophy. I want to be
one of them guys where you talk about legacy, you
talk about playoffs, you talk about all of these things.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I wanted to be a part of that. I want
to see what that felt like.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
So when it was tom for me to make the decision,
you know, free agency to leave or not, I'm like, Okay,
I'm one of two guys that's the face of this organization.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Literally the faces I've been I've been.
Speaker 10 (28:23):
So I'm like, man, like, what more do I have
to prove to y'all that I belong here?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You know?
Speaker 10 (28:28):
So when Green Bay came in, I knew it was
like a breath of fresh air. I knew they had
a lot of young guys with a lot of talent.
I knew they had a great quarterback. I'm like, okay,
let me go experience this out And just happened the
ball last year?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Man, and I left a lot on the table. I'll
be telling people all.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
The time, well, because that's what makes you great.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Come on, man, I left a lot on the table,
probably like three hundred four hundre yards.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
But man, that still was a great season.
Speaker 11 (28:52):
Hell yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Player at a high level where Alabama essentially is an
NFL team in college, did you have a welcome to
the league moment?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Welcome to the league?
Speaker 10 (29:04):
I know, I know in college I definitely had a
welcome to Ruben Foster that I've ever saying to this day,
thought you the only one that I could compare him
to is Fred Warner to this day, the best I've
ever since. But I would say my welcome to the
league probably my rookie year. I was in Minnesota playing
against the Vikings that time. They hold defense. I played
together for at least four or five years. Some chemistry
(29:27):
when I say, like my first option, my second option,
my third option all gone. Like he wasn't hitting hard,
but like everybody was in the right spot. I'm like,
that was the most frustrating game of my career. I'm
sitting on the silne like, what do you want me
to do?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like for real?
Speaker 6 (29:44):
That was good?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, like anything, adversity's gonna strike, whatever city strikes,
what's your goal to how you're gonna respond?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Man?
Speaker 10 (29:54):
So me personally, man like, I pray, you know, Like
that's the thing that calms me down. Like even in
the morning, I got a ten minute drive to work,
I pray every.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Morning on my roots on the way to work.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Love that bro, But for me, I always too in
up pray and then I look back and I'll be like, man,
I've been through way way harder life.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
Like, so like I kind of look at the grand
scheme of things like this is this peanuts? You know
what I'm saying. So that's kind of the thing that
I try to do. I try to look at it
from a from a bigger perspective and then normally too
in my experience, whenever you go through something hard, in
that moment, it feels hard, but when you get out
of you and you look back on you like it
wasn't that bad. I could do it nothing and do it,
(30:33):
you know what I'm saying, So like it is what
it is.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Bro, Josh so crazy man, Like it's funny how it
had it got to a podcast for us to kind
of hear this and for me personally, man, because like
the more you talk and more you talk about like
not only you know what your your upbringing and how
you got through adversity with that, but also you know,
dealing with adversity now.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Bro, I just it's like we're like the same dude.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Like I swear like it's crazy how the Lord works,
because that's one thing like when I know, like when
I'm sitting there and I'm a free agent, and I'm like, man, like,
am I done? It is my career over? I look back,
I pray, and I'm like, man, I'm blessed. Like, man,
the amount of experiences the people I've met, not many
people have, barely any people have been able to experience
those kind of things.
Speaker 11 (31:17):
And I'm like, why am I complaining? You know?
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Why am I worried about what's next? Like I'm good,
Like I've been so busted. So I man, that's I
really love hearing that because at the end of the day,
I think that is the best way you could do whatever.
You know, go meditate, you can go read books yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Self talk whatever, let's bring the juice to calm.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, of course we'll get you fired up.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Yeah, But the end of the day, it's like it's
it's all here, and it's like you got to kind
of come to realization that, man, everything's gonna be fine.
As long as I am doing what I'm supposed to
be doing is the best of my ability, It's all
gonna work out.
Speaker 11 (31:51):
So I love hearing that. Jobs man, for real.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Going through the motions is something too many people do
in this world. Yeah, you guys obviously are held at
a higher standard. Josh, I know you got goals. How
do you write? How do you set your goals and
what your plan to achieve them? Let's choose this upcoming
season as an example.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
You know what's crazy, Like I tell people, and I
might be the weirdest person when it comes to this,
but like I never set goals for myself. But also
but I also never I also never set limitations on myself.
I believe in like it's a bar if I if
I come in and I do what I'm supposed to
do on a day to day basis, everything is going
to play out how it's supposed to play out, and
like whatever whatever it looked like, I can live with
(32:29):
because I know that I came and attack the day
each day.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So that's kind of how I view it.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I honestly, after hearing you say that, it's the truth,
because what are you gonna do, like at the end
of the day, Okay, I got.
Speaker 11 (32:41):
Goals, Yeah, what's great.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
All I know is I gotta wake up and run
through the.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Best version. If you're out there and you got time
on your hands still, but you're not being the best
version of yourself. You can't leave you can't leave cheddar
on the table.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Like that, not at all.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
I think certain goals is great, right, but at the
in the day, for me, it's like, no, that's not enough.
I gotta go get it. Like we both come from nothing.
I'm like, how am I gonna change the trajectory of
my kids life and my family? My last name? I
can't just sit them. I want to make this amount
of money. I want to achieve this goal. I want
to get this award. Yeah, but what's next? That's not enough.
(33:20):
And I think that's just you know, saving helped us
and instilled those values in us. But I think just
how you know, we me and you both bringing you
going through a versity at a young age. It's like
you learn and you you you battle and you eventually
it's like, hey, I gotta do this. I gotta go
get this no matter what. Like Frank said, if somebody's
in the way, I'm gonna run through their face.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Man.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
And that's the thing, like I tell people all the time,
I like me in any situation. Yeah, you feel me
Like I believe it myself because I know that I
prepared and I took the time to experience things and
field things out to be able to know that I'm
gonna be okay in any in anything I experienced, So
no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I feel like the running back position has got disrespected lately.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
Yeah, I know we're gonna talk about this.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I'm sure you talked to a few of the other
dudes around the league. Obviously a lot of them come
through the Bamba pipeline. Yeah, do you all have a
group message you all discussed and said, hey, we need
to get some respect.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
We did it. We did like a year or two ago.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
We all sat down all the really all the running backs,
and we had a zoom call, a couple of zoom
calls about just basically where the market was heading and
how we viewed it and how we feel like we
valued and things like that. But obviously, you know, with
the type of year running backs had this year, the
type of the way that the teams depended on them,
like every team that was in the playoffs ran the ball,
(34:36):
things like that, I think the market is in good hands.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Man.
Speaker 10 (34:38):
You see what Sakuwa is doing. You see what besign
jamir uh, you know kay ren Uh. You know all
of these guys that's coming up to get paid is
doing so, Like, I think the market is gonna be
in good hands, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Last thing, I lied, what's the most rocking atmosphere you've
been in part of in your football career?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Rocking like pure juice?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Right?
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Mind here for the same one unless it's.
Speaker 10 (35:02):
It's either it's either BAMA at night or ls SHU
at night. Yeah, LSU at night. That value in the
league compares to it? Nah, Bro, It's different. Bro, In
college atmosphere is way different than the league. Like the
league get some places, it get crazy, but it's.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Still not the same.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
But you also gotta think it's about three hundred four hundred,
I mean, not thirty to forty thousand more fans in
the college stadium.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's like yeah, yeah, bro, Like it's just different. It
is different, Yosh.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I know you do.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Today, Bro, we'll blink out.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
We'll get you some merch, get you some hots golf.
Oh yeah, I'm okay. I saw a game is good. Hey,
Hey hey look I just put it on display too.
Bout a while.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Tournament every year, celebrity program.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Take care of you, bro. Yeah, And I was hearing
about some friends though, right, it's sure yeah man might have. Yeah,
let me appreciate you, appreciate y'all.
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