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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, all right, all right, I'm ready to douce
here in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I have mister Plumbley himself. John. Good to see you, brother,
reporting for duty. Glad to be here. I uh, I'm
glad we're able.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
To do this and see each other before the twenty
twenty six golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes, coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, I know you've been getting reps in. Let's let's
just start with that. Where's your golf game at today?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, let's just say last time you saw me, I
wasn't very good.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
At golf, and now you are good at golf.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Now I'm still not very good at golf. I'm just
still a little better spot than I was last time
you saw me.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Biggest strength, biggest weakness?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
What is Okay, strength, I'm gonna I'm gonna put it
in the long drive.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's it's gonna be a strengthen. Oh and what's a
long drive to a guy like you? Ah? I mean
you know when.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You're hitting on the like the top golf tracers and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Very accurate.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Some some would say I've hit three hundred before. Uh
huh So downhill, little wind? Yeah, need I need a
little one at the back. I Will, I will say that,
uh weakness is when I try to use my long
drive and I super slice.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It into the wood.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I mean it's got to be pretty relatable for
some people. I mean, I'll make one like that's the
game of golf.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I take the Inchorman approach where I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I swing as hard as I can every time, and
sixty percent of the time it works every time.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Bingo, bingo. The what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, baseball former baseball player, somebody told me one time,
swing hard in case you hit it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I take that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Same mentality over to the to the to the golf space.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know. I think that's a genius approach. I mean,
let her ride, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I've been doing a lot of YouTube golf challenges lately.
What does that look like? We got one dropping pretty soon? Okay,
I go out and I try to break one hundred like.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
A true, Like a true has a dropped yet? This
one has a dropped yet? What will the one you
were doing with the We did one with.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Will Levis where we had to break like eighty or
seventy two or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We've done a few where we bring out a taser.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yes, I'm seeing the taser.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
There's there's a.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Few games we play in juice golf that worked well,
and sure, Schurch, but this one, my brother was home
from camp and we.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wanted to do something he wasn't golfing.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
He's like, you should, you should try to break a hundred,
like people were starting to watch you as a golfer,
and like a no bs, like no drop, truly truly,
like this is an actual one hundred. Yeah, you're breaking
ye yeah, and uh watch the YouTube video to find
out what happens. But it went pretty well all the
edge of my seat over here on the edge of yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And you know, I think for me, it's uh, it's
the blow ups. Man, dude. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm always like, all right, I'm gonna go out there
and I'm gonna take a real score this time, you know,
like I'm gonna like you're saying, like, hey, I'm like
counterary drop.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And I get out there and I get to like whole.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Three and I'm sitting in like twenty five strokes, yeah,
and I'm like this is no longer fun.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
For me, No, this is this is making me really mad.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, you gotta switch that mindset to My father has
this theory where he's like, I have I paid one
hundred bucks for a round. I ain't gonna break course record. Sure,
I might as well get some reps in, I nd
her I might as well get some repsin.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Hey, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I did just duff that seven iron fifteen feet in
front of me.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, let me try that one again. I'm again, I
paid one hundred bucks for it. Who's gonna tell me crap?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Who's gonna when they say two divots right beside each other?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
This guy must be consistent.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He's really consistent, right he's playing again? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I like the way you think, and I like the
way he thinks you mentioned in the two sport.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, being a baseball guy, I gotta ask, Okay, what
let's let's do this taper back going into college.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
How did you convince bo coaches to let you do this?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Because it's one thing to be able to do it,
people don't get it's another thing to get both parties
wanting to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Everybody's got a kind of recruiting story, you know, like,
but here's here's my recruiting story, right, so I was
I'm from Hattisburg, Mississippi and getting recruited athletic kid.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
People don't know I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Playing quarterback right and my first offer was to go
to Mississippi State to play corner. And the way that
I was getting exposure, there wasn't a lot of you know,
like there was no seven on seven like back then,
there there was none of that. Like how I got
exposure was I went to Old Miss football camp, Missippi
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State football camp, Southern Miss football camp, like those where
I just went.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Straight down the list. We'll go to the football camps.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, I go to Missippi State and I run a
really good time and they're like, hey, we want you
to come back. I was playing quarterback. We want you
to come back and go to another campus corner. And
so they're like, all right, all right, we'll do it. We'll
do it. You know Dan Mullen at the time asking
us to come back. Yeah, we'll come back. You know,
it's costing us a little money, but we'll you know,
we'll do it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We'll do it. Come back by another good time. And
they're like, hey, we want you to.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Come back to another camp, our big dog campus and
a big dog camp I'm sitting there like, are they
just money grabbing us? Yeah? Like are they just already
got enough T shirts? I mean I got enough T
shirts with the number three seventy two on it, you.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Know, Like I don't need any more of these. I'd
love to have one of those back in the day.
I mean unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So I go back and I'm like, you know what,
you know, pull up, go to this big dog camp.
And this is my i mean, first time playing corner
like ever.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, Like I'm just out there.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I played quarterback my whole life, you know, like let's
rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We started doing one on ones pig first rep.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Oh, I'm feeling like him like this is easy. This
is the next rep. I'm like, this is the easiest
thing I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
This is actually go in get an offer. I could
jump over the moon, right.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
So they want me to come to Missisipi State play
corner and so I'm like, oh shooting. So then missis
be State offers, then Southern miss offers.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm like, Hey, what do I want me to play?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They're like, we don't know, we just want you on
the bus. Okay, Alabama calls like a week and a
half later, and then after BAMA called, everybody called, and
so it was like I'm going through like this is
sophomore summer, going to my junior year. I'm trying to
figure out where the heck, you know, I want to go,
what the heck I want to do, and different places
are offering me different things. And one of the smaller
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schools was like, hey, man, we'll let you play quarterback.
And I was like, you know, beggars can't be choosers.
Back when, I was like I was just excited to
get an offer, you know, Like now I have a
bunch of options, like I want to play quarterback, you know,
And so I call all the bigger schools back, Hey,
you know, like I really appreciate you all this opportunity.
This is what an opportunity is over here. If y'all
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don't have the same opportunity, no love lost. I'm just
gonna go elsewhere. And they're like okay, someone were like okay,
I really appreciate it, you know, like all is well,
and then uh, one of and then they all kind
of went away, you know, play my junior season, and
I get a bunch of phone calls back, Hey, we
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want you to come play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And I'm like, oh yeah, you know, like they won't you.
And so.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Going through that, did that again. Then one of the
smaller schools again says hey, man, well let's play quarterback
and we'll let you play baseball.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So what do I do? I call, I pick up
the phone again. Guys, this is what the offer is.
If you're a master negotiator.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
If I got some leverage, I'm leveraging that thing, you
know what I mean. And some calling people back, Hey,
you know, this is the opportunity over here, and a
lot of them are like, Okay, let me get on
the phone with the baseball coach.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They'd call him back five minutes later. Hey, you're good
to go.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We can do it over here because you're on football's dollar,
you know, like of course, and so you're essentially a
walk on on the baseball team, right, but you're on
full scholarship because you're on the football team. So it's
like all the baseball coaches are like, we get a
free player. Yeah, you know, they're getting eleven point seven
scholarships free players, a free player. They love it, so like, yeah, absolutely,
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it's just the fact of doing it. And so go
to college at Ole Miss and go through my freshman
year football was the guy. Maggots her to end up
being the guy. Then there was a coaching change and
I go to Kiff. I'm like, hey, where do you do.
I had a kind of agreement that I was going
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to play baseball here.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
He was like, yeah, go ahead, to go play.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And so in the spring I played baseball, fall, I
played football, and then I went to UCF.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And that's when they really kind.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Of overlapped each other a little more because I was
I was a little serious about doing them both more,
you know, and we like during the spring, I got
coach love Lady, which was the head baseball coach at UCF,
and Mauson, the head football coach at UCF, in the
same room, and they were talking over calendars. Hey, what
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we're gonna do about this date? What we're gonna do
about this date? And there was some there were some
circles like, hey, we got the same thing happening right here,
like we got to do something. But like they really
jump through hoops like to make it happen.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It was unreal. Like a lot of people have seen.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
The video of me, you know, going from Memphis home
baseball game to then playing in the spring game.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Which was unbelievable, which was cool. Yeah, but I did.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I did that every day, like literally, would get up
do football until you know, twelve o'clock, would eat.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Lunch like in a to go bag. What have you
waiting on me?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And then would go to baseball, do baseball practice, eating
in the locker room, do baseball practice, and then would
some days would come back to football meetings in the
afternoon and then doing all know online school at the house.
The coolest one to me was we had a scrimmage
on a Saturday, football scrimmage, football scrimmage in the spring,
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and so I'm getting like five drives, six drives in
and so do my five six drives, get some touchdowns.
Malzon's like, all right, you're good, go ahead, I go again.
Food waiting for me. My buddy Kenny, work that works
at UCF, drove me to the airport. I hop on
a private jet. They fly me to ECU Land. On
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the ground, there's a driver waiting for me. Go straight
to the baseball field, but change in the dugout and
then we go out and we play double header versus ECU. Wow,
I mean truly, that's in real today is sports?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh truly unreal. Now we got killed by ECU. We
got but it was sick.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I mean, like, you know, just going from being like
I'm gonna play football and them'll hop on private jet
and then go play baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, sign me up, you know, like, yeah, how sick
is that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
You know, Like I was like, this is the coolest
thing I've ever done, you know, like this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Got load though, I mean it's something and as you
said too, like it's not like you're playing running back
or receiver, not saying that those are deloted positions when
it comes to the mental side of the game, but
you're you're rocking QB.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
At this time. Sure, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's like it's like, hey, you gotta gotta be pretty locked.
You gotta be very present.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You gotta be pretty long, very very very present over there.
But it was like, you know it, I mean, you know,
there are long days you're working, you know, like, but
like you're getting to play ball, which is like, you know,
that's always been my dream, and so it was it
was let's let's rock and roll, you know. But it
would be impossible if the people weren't there to help
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me right, Like if mols On and Lovely did not meet, yeah,
there's no way. You know, like if if Erica didn't
have food ready for me at some points during the day,
like I'd be like, I'm not eating today, you know,
like and so like there was there was a very
big community that made that happen, Whereas like you know,
they're I think they're telling kids these days, they're like, hey, yeah,
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you can do both whatever, and they're like come on,
and there's like there's no real like yeah yeah, and that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There are three there.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I think there has to be a real plan because
if not, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. You know,
kids today are specializing in one sport at like age eight,
eight years old, Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Like I hate it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Let the kids play ball, you know, like everything, Like
what you should be playing?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Should be running track?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh dude, you should be playing volleyball, chair basketball, soccer, football.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I mean in middle school, I played bad Bitten okay, yeah,
paying pong, I stow it at ping pong?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What else we got recreational poker? Yeah? Start them yell
what I mean, I think you gotta have a little
bit of in class.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Solitaire, shooting ball yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Pool.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Let's see how let's see how good these kids can
shoot it? Uh, some sort of swimming activity.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of everything.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You're in the water, yeah, know how to swim, know
how to swim?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Kick a ball in there. It's on the rise. I'm
a fan. Yeah, made as well. Golf, duh, I will.
I wish I started earlier. I got.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I have an old son, and is he swinging the
stick already?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He likes touching golf balls and footballs good.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Every night before I go to bed, his whole life,
I made this rule. Every night he's been alive, I
make him, before he falls asleep.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Touch a football every night. And now it's that's right.
It's going to muscle memory.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
When we do bath night, put his diaper on, get
him all ready to go for bedtime.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And before he got to get fed, I read a.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Bedtime story and then I get the football off the
shelf and I make sure he touches it. And now
he smiles and he loves the crazy football is coming.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's gonna be. This kid's gonna know I like football
very early. Call me a psycho, Call me psycho.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't care how to get dad's attention. Be good
at football, I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Have interest, have interest, But he will be swinging a
golf club.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I already looked into like the toys r us swing
a golf club packages and stuff like that. We're gonna
be going to do that. We're not gonna wait till
we're twenty four.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Now, I would have been in a better spot if
I would have started at a younger age.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
For sure, would you pursue?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think football and golf could be one of the
most deadly combos.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And it is good. It's a good deal. And it
reminds me of my boy Evan Thompson. Yeah sports, yeah
due him. He uh he did it in college. I
know he's but now he's he's about to his YouTube's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, he's about to make a play to go PGA,
p G A man like he's he's on the rise. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Obviously, keep up with him through social media, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
My main channel of watching them.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But like, he's a good follow, he's a good follow.
Free shout out to shout out.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I I do think, you know, in the era of
like talking dual sport athletes at a professional level, golf
and NFL would be a ring like go play a
PGA that would be electric, play a Rider's Cup and.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Didn't go play middle linebacker. That's some. That's some. I
mean that would I don't getting gritted.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That is greedy, that that would be gritted.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Was there ever a point when you were considering doing
both MLB and the NFL journey?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, So coming out of Heights, I I had an
opportunity to go in the draft out of high school,
and so it was a crazy time because like one
week of my recruitment process was like Monday, I had
there's area scouts for professional baseball teams and so like
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they'll have you know, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You know, like these guys will have.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You know, just the same as like football coaches in
college leveill have areas of you know, recruitment, same as applies.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
For area scouts and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
So had people had professional scouts coming to my baseball
games in high school, had college football scouts for college
teams coming to football games, and I mean they come
to schools, you know, like they they're they're coming to
just to say what's up. And so one week of
my senior year, I had the Yankees. I'm over to
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the house and they're you know, asking a bunch of questions,
doing their due diligence.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Then I had like.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
A management group. You know, for baseball you have an advisor.
You can't have an agent, technically, you have an advisor.
And so these people are pitching me to be my advisor.
Then I had Mississippi State the next night. Then I
had Old Miss, and then I had the Red Sox.
So I had Yankees and Red Sox, Missippi State, and
Old Mess all at the house in one week.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And I'm getting pitched, you know, like like hey do this.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You can play baseball, you can come to Misispi State
and play football, you know, And so it was crazy.
But so back to the question, Yeah, there was a
time in high school there was a like, hey I
go to college and play both sports. Hey I just
go to the MLB and just played baseball. Or there's
a scenario where hey, I signed my rights in high school,
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go play football and go to spring training. This is
a j Brown for Old Miss got drafted by I
think Padres, I think I think, I don't know if
that's right, but like he would go he was playing
football in college. He would go for like one week,
I think maybe two weeks, hit BP, do stuff, go
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see those people over there. And then with understanding that
football doesn't work out, baseball is the next thing after
you know what I'm saying, So like there's a there's
a scenario where I could do that as well. And
so I was kind of like, all, right, now what
do I want to do? Man, it'd be tough to
it would be hard to say no to playing both
in college, like having a real shot to play both. Like, man,
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that's what's the dollar sign you put on that?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Right? So it's like and so like.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You're just fumbling around all these like different scenarios and
what ifs of like what.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
If I do this? What if I do that? And
so it was it was.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
A crazy lot of thinking during this time in my
young whatever, seventeen eighteen year old Brown tried to make
a life decision, you know, but had a lot of
good choices.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So it was it was fun.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It was fun, but definitely stressful because like, man, this this.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Is gonna this decision is gonna affect the rest of
my life, you know, like what are we what are
we going? To do. I think I made the right one.
It was fun. I think you did too.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Obviously things are working out in your favorite Sure coming
into the league, you know you've had You've.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Already become a journeyman.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, you've already become a journey find me there.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, what is what?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
What's the biggest takeaways you've learned about the business side
of the league.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
So yeah, it's it's it is very much a business.
It's a business league.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Like you know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So my quick story, this is my second year preseason,
and this is my third team I've been on. So
went undrafted to Pittsburgh, got cut off your camp, went
to Jacksonville for about half the year, got cut then
got invited to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And for a workout.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And so I go for the workout, and I'm like,
all right, let's rock and roll. You get there, you know,
they fly you up, go to sleep, wake up earlier,
doing a bunch of you know, they want you to
see a doctor, do a physical, do all this and that,
and you're here for like a day and a half
to for like a fifteen minute workout like it is.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It is very quick, you know, And so we get.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Up here, we me I get up here, and I'm like,
all right, do this all this deal.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Go to the facility. Here's a ball, start throwing.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
There's like four receivers, a safety or two and then myself.
So the safety us are doing whatever they're doing over there.
Me and these four receivers are kind of warming up.
I'm throwing to them and they're running through colons. Hey
run a corner, run a fifteen yard out, run, a slant,
run a go like that was essentially what they did.
Little route through some through some routes through the ball. Well,
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thinking like, man, this is great, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Go up to one of the guys here.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
One of the scouts here's Mississippi's like, hey man, great job.
You know what size of gloves do you wear? And
I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
He's like what goes where? I'm like, I guess large.
I mean, like I'm lord large.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Is that I have large?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
They're like yeah, they're like, can you mind running through
some cones and catching the ball a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm like, uh sure, I mean I don't have a job,
you know.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Like I'm like, yeah, yeah, absolutely, sign me up. Right,
I'm there, I'm game. They gave me some gloves, run
through some routes, catch it, finish through the line, do
the deal. Another five minutes on top of this workout,
I mean, like, I mean, seriously, it's it's that quick.
Then you're all you all go into this little little
waiting room. You're all kind of sitting there staring at
each other, like are they going to take anybody?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Like these guys are here with And so they start
calling us long at a time, and so like one
guy would go back and he come back in and
we look at him. He'd be like, nah, I'm going
back to the house.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And we're like, dang. Next that goes in, Nah, going
back to the house. Dang.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And so like I'm like the second to last guy
to go. They're like, hey, congrats, you made it. I'm like, sweet,
you're gonna be in the receiver room. Okay, sweet, nobody
else went home. I'm like all right, So the next
rest of the season, I'm just trying to blend in right, Like, yeah,
it's not like, hey, you're you made the team, go
back home, get your stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
You know you're going back. No.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I was at practice the next day in full pads
playing receiver. Were last week I was playing quarterback in
for the Jacks, you know. So I'm like, okay, let's
figure this out.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
So, like this is the only guy that I knew
in the receiver room was DK Metcalf because he's from
Mississippi and we had we had some run in because
he went to Old Miss. I had thrown them a
couple of times, and so he knew I think he
was the only one that knew of me in the
receiver room. And so he was like, he was like, oh,
what are you doing in here kind of deal, And
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I'm like, I'm playing receiver, you know, And so like
I'm watching these guys run routes, and so I'm just
literally trying to blend in, you know. And so for
the next like week and a half, two weeks, I'm
starting to get to know guys and I'm like, yeah,
this is kind of my first time, you know, I
did an Old Miss for like a little while, but
playing receiver, this is this is kind of my first
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real time doing it. And they're like, oh, man, you're
doing great, keep it up, you know. Like and so
like I was just that whole rest of that year,
I was trying to blend in, like and I'm getting
better at it, you know, over the weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
But unbelievable, unreal, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I was gonna ask, like, how did that conversation go?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And it wasn't a conversation.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It was it was crazy, no, like I didn't have
a job, and it's like, hey, you have a job,
but you playing receiver. I'm like, okay, let's do it,
you know, like let's rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It was. It was so crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
So I'm in Jacksonville, okay, And as I'm sure you know,
like usually teams will keep three quarterbacks on the roster, right,
They'll keep usually two on the active roster and then
a third on the practice squad, right, And so in
Jacksonville it's Trevor mac Jones at the time, and myself,
studs love those guys, hilarious, right, and so, but Max
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taking a lot of the practice squad reps, like taking
his reps with the scout team to make sure he's
getting refs. And so as the third quarterback, I'm just
not doing a lot, right, So I'm just over there
kind of posted up during practice. I'm trying to stamenttally
locked in, trying to learn the scheme because I got
there after camp, and so I'm playing catch up already,
trying to learn this scheme.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know, I'm sitting over there, not doing.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
A lot physically other than throwing the ball a couple
of times in practice. So I'm there for whatever, ten weeks, eight,
nine weeks, I don't know whatever, how many weeks I
was there, get cut. Then I go to seattleer are like, hey,
you're playing receiver. You're the Scout team receiver. You're running,
I mean, you were feeling it, You're running.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And so I'm running on Scout team doing this and that,
and they're like, hey, we need a body on the
defensive side of the ball playing safety.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'm your guy. I'm your guy. I'm over there, boom.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
So Scout Team offense, I'm running around, Scout Team defense,
I'm running around. So I go from doing nothing to
like to actually running the whole day. When I tell you,
one of the most sore times I've been in my life, really, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Believable.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
For a whole week, I was like I was living
in the tubs, like, yeah, ice tub, I need it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I have got to get it in.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
But to moving back on the initial question, business side
is crazy, like you know, like, make some really good
relationships in Pittsburgh, make some really good relationships in Jacksonville, now,
making some really good relationships here in Seattle. And it's
not about the relationships, Like it is strictly a numbers game.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It doesn't matter who you know or who you you know,
who your buddies with, Like it is a numbers game,
you know. Like in Pittsburgh, they cut me in, They're like, hey,
we're probably gonna sign you back.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
To the practice squad. Great, sounds great.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
The next day they have practice and one of the
offensive linemen hurts his pack got to bring it Oliman in.
They got to bring you alignment, and well, somebody's gotta go.
It ended up being me, Hey man, we were gonna
keep you, but now we have to bring in another alignment.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sorry, man's out there for you.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So it's just it's such a numbers game, so you
can't really take it personally, but like in the same sense,
like I always kind of do, you know, Like I'm like, dude,
like I get it, you know, like I want to
be on that I want to be in that number,
you know. Yeah, and so but yeah, like it's just
scratching clawon to be in that to be in that number,
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and so that's what we're that's.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What we're working for right now, it makes sense. I mean,
it's it's it's it's the numbers game. And like I said,
it's hard.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's so hard for people to understand that, Okay, just
to be on this ninety man roster that's that starts
of camps. Yeah, it's hard to get there an opportunity there, yes, yeah,
they're gonna chisel it down. And what it looks like
now is to say like teams don't just chisel it
down in one day, Like well, actually opposite. Some teams
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are chiseling it down all in one day. Some it
used to be like you have to taper it back,
so you go from.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Ninety to eighty five to eighty seventy five.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
To sixty two and then it's like who you're gonna
cut the last day where some franchises they're gonna cut forty.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Guys in one day, dude.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I feel like in Pittsburgh Crazy, it was like everybody's
here and it was like, hey, it's cut day, and
it was like oh shoot, so we go out like
you practice, like you go out and practice you get
off the field, you take a shower, and you're on
the way to lunch and you're just hoping you don't
get that tap on the shoulder, you know, like you're
just like, don't tap me on the shoulder. You're kind
of like, don't make eye contact with me kind of deal.
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Get tapped on the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And it was like cut, cut, cut, cut cut. It
was what's the what's the cut? Like? How how fast
has it been for you?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It? I mean, I mean it sucks right, like you know,
you you you work your tail off and then it's
like it doesn't work out. Man, it really sucks, you know,
like you know it's it's stinks, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But it was in.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Pittsburgh it was hey, man, you know, like you did
a great job there in camp. We you know, we
just it's a numbers game and we're we're looking to
have you back on the practice squad, but as of
right now, we got to cut it before before we
can call you back.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And so it was like, is there anything I could
have done different? Now? Man, we think he did a
really good job. Just we got our guys that we want.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
All right, sweet, it sounds good, check hands and you roll,
and it's just it's just such a.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Such a cutthroat deal, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And so like my thing is, like you don't really
realize how few fifty three people are, especially.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Once you cut it in half on offense, unbelievable, Say
eighteen guys.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay, let's let's talk.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Like this, right, you get eleven starters on offense, eleven
on defense. That's twenty two people off the rip, right,
let's call it. Are we gonna go too deep at
each position?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Can't?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I mean, like at that point you're looking real thin already,
Like and so special teams.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You're gonna have your specialists. You're gonna have punter, kicker,
long stopper, Yeah, you have. You gotta have your guys.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Then after that, you gotta have offensive linemen because if
they get hurt, I mean they get banged.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Up all the time. Well in the tierri or you
got to have a couple of.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Defensive linemen two because like stuff gets banging in there.
Running backs you got to have a couple beat these three, right,
and so then linebackers, interior linebackers, and you're like, okay,
all right, those guys get hurt, and who we're gonna
pull up, you know, and then you got dbs. They
can kind of swap around a little bit, you know,
do what they need to do, but you got.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
To have one or two extra. Do we have a
fullback in our offense? Are we playing with the next thing?
You know? You're like, all right, that's seventy guys. That's
too many.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We have too many people on the roster, right, And
so it's like you don't really realize how few fifty
three is.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, it's impossible.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's it's it's truly unbelievable how small the number, because
you come from college to.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Where the sideline is just filled up with like.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
One hundred guys, Like you have one hundred teammates on
the sideline with you, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, and you know, like I feel like we had
one hundred and five on our roster. We dressed like
sixty eight, yeah something like that. Yeah, yeah, it's still
sixty eight. It's more than fifty three.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, fifty three doesn't mean this shit you through dressing either, No,
you're dressed forty eight.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
So I'm saying, yeah, like, and.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
So it is just I mean, it's like it is,
it is.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It is wild, how how few the number is, But.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I mean it just gives you more of appreciation of
like if you make it like you're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Something, you know, like you're that guy.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, You're you're doing something if you if you sneak
on there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So the last thing I saw some Johnny manziel a
couple of nights ago. Oh yeah, you were a true
freshman starter in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Sure you had a game where you went crazy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
how high for you? How much juice was in that game?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You know, we lost that game, So it sucks, right,
like you would love the game for that, like you're
known for to be a win.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Like a lot of people, a lot of Old Mess
people still come up to me and they're like, hey, man,
LSU game was crazy, yeah, and I would love to
be like, yeah, we killed them, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I would love people like yeah we got them boy. Yeah,
but like they ended up beating us, you know, so
it's stink.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
But it was such a it was such a cool deal,
you know, like I'm a Mississippi kid from Pattisburg playing
for Old Mess and so it was it just meant
a lot to be able to like play for Old
Mess right, and then to be the guy. It was
really cool. But in that game, like it was you know,
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I didn't think we like it was just another team
for us. Like now everybody looks back at the twenty
nineteen LSU team and they're like, that's one of the
best college teams ever, you know, Like at the time,
we were like, yeah, they're good, but like we didn't think, yeah,
we didn't think they were going to be you know
who they were, and so we were just going into
it like We're about to give these boys business like
just like you do, just like you do every other game,
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you know, and so and at the time, like during
the game, I didn't really realize how much of a
game it was for.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Me, you know, like I knew you don't.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, And I've never really been like a numbers guy,
stats guy, Like I always kind of want to know, hey, man,
do we win or we like, do we do enough
to win or do we you know, And so afterwards
I was just like, man, this, god, dude, we gotta
we gotta win some games, you know, Like I'm thinking that,
and then people are coming up, man, hey, great game,
great game, great game, and I'm like, great game.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
We lost dude, like this, what what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You know, like, but looking back, it was an awesome game, dude,
like fun you know obviously to be able to look back.
And Patrick Quain was on that team. He was a
linebacker and okay, funny story about that game. And so
SEC media, like the media behind SEC, I'm sure you
can like it's unbelievable, like so many reporters, so many
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of this, so many that well, somebody early in the week.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Said something said a quote that I said, which was
not true.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
They said, I'm faster than everybody on the field, so
all I have to do is make it past the
d lineman or something to the effect of that.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
They started a rumor. They didn't paraphrase.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
No, brother, I'm telling you. And so one of my
buddies plays over at LSU, and I'm getting pictures of
this quote in people's lockers.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh it was. It was bulletin board. Bulletin boards.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I'm like, okay, this I mean, like what I mean,
like at the end of the day, whatever, you know,
like sounds good. My first play out there, first play
I'm running it. I think we called it Ruby, which
was just you know, straight quarterback outside zone right, like,
I'm running it, no other option, I'm running it right.
And Patrick Queen runs me down and tackles me and
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he's like, you ain't that fast.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And I'm like, oh, okay, let's one of those. It's
gonna be one of us, you know, like okay. And
so I asked him about.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It later on in Pittsburgh and he was like, oh, yeah,
we were trying to kill you that game. We were
trying to absolutely take your cleats off. I was running
from my life right. And I look back at that
freshman season. I was probably one eighty five. I weighed nothing,
but was just like throw the body weight around.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It was recess. It was recess.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We were just out there playing backyard football good having
a dang good time doing it too. But it was
a fun game. Wish we would have won, but fun game.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah. Well, John, I appreciate you, man. I know you've
got some stuff to do. Well. Uh, we'll see you
at the golf tournament in March. Absolutely, I will be better,
got some we got.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Some major developments happening, so you'll you'll I'm fired, but
best of luck in Seattle and uh and beyond appreciate you, man.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I appreciate it bring the Just Boe
All right, all right, all right, I'm ready to douce
here in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I have mister Plumbley himself. John. Good to see you, brother,
reporting for duty. Glad to be here. I uh, I'm
glad we're able.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
To do this and see each other before the twenty
twenty six golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes, coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, I know you've been getting reps in. Let's let's
just start with that. Where's your golf game at today?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, let's just say last time you saw me, I
wasn't very good.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
At golf, and now you are good at golf.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Now I'm still not very good at golf. I'm just
still a little better spot than I was last time
you saw me.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Biggest strength, biggest weakness?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
What is Okay, strength, I'm gonna I'm gonna put it
in the long drive.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's it's gonna be a strengthen. Oh and what's a
long drive to a guy like you? Ah? I mean
you know when.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You're hitting on the like the top golf tracers and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Very accurate.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Some some would say I've hit three hundred before. Uh
huh So downhill, little wind? Yeah, need I need a
little one at the back. I Will, I will say that,
uh weakness is when I try to use my long
drive and I super slice.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It into the wood.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I mean it's got to be pretty relatable for
some people. I mean, I'll make one like that's the
game of golf.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I take the Inchorman approach where I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I swing as hard as I can every time, and
sixty percent of the time it works every time.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Bingo, bingo. The what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, baseball former baseball player, somebody told me one time,
swing hard in case you hit it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I take that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Same mentality over to the to the to the golf space.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know. I think that's a genius approach. I mean,
let her ride, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I've been doing a lot of YouTube golf challenges lately.
What does that look like? We got one dropping pretty soon? Okay,
I go out and I try to break one hundred like.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
A true, Like a true has a dropped yet? This
one has a dropped yet? What will the one you
were doing with the We did one with.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Will Levis where we had to break like eighty or
seventy two or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We've done a few where we bring out a taser.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yes, I'm seeing the taser.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
There's there's a.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Few games we play in juice golf that worked well,
and sure, Schurch, but this one, my brother was home
from camp and we.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wanted to do something he wasn't golfing.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
He's like, you should, you should try to break a hundred,
like people were starting to watch you as a golfer,
and like a no bs, like no drop, truly truly,
like this is an actual one hundred. Yeah, you're breaking
ye yeah, and uh watch the YouTube video to find
out what happens. But it went pretty well all the
edge of my seat over here on the edge of yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And you know, I think for me, it's uh, it's
the blow ups. Man, dude. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm always like, all right, I'm gonna go out there
and I'm gonna take a real score this time, you know,
like I'm gonna like you're saying, like, hey, I'm like
counterary drop.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And I get out there and I get to like whole.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Three and I'm sitting in like twenty five strokes, yeah,
and I'm like this is no longer fun.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
For me, No, this is this is making me really mad.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, you gotta switch that mindset to My father has
this theory where he's like, I have I paid one
hundred bucks for a round. I ain't gonna break course record. Sure,
I might as well get some reps in, I nd
her I might as well get some repsin.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Hey, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I did just duff that seven iron fifteen feet in
front of me.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, let me try that one again. I'm again, I
paid one hundred bucks for it. Who's gonna tell me crap?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Who's gonna when they say two divots right beside each other?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
This guy must be consistent.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He's really consistent, right he's playing again? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I like the way you think, and I like the
way he thinks you mentioned in the two sport.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, being a baseball guy, I gotta ask, Okay, what
let's let's do this taper back going into college.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
How did you convince bo coaches to let you do this?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Because it's one thing to be able to do it,
people don't get it's another thing to get both parties
wanting to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Everybody's got a kind of recruiting story, you know, like,
but here's here's my recruiting story, right, so I was
I'm from Hattisburg, Mississippi and getting recruited athletic kid.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
People don't know I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Playing quarterback right and my first offer was to go
to Mississippi State to play corner. And the way that
I was getting exposure, there wasn't a lot of you know,
like there was no seven on seven like back then,
there there was none of that. Like how I got
exposure was I went to Old Miss football camp, Missippi
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State football camp, Southern Miss football camp, like those where
I just went.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Straight down the list. We'll go to the football camps.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, I go to Missippi State and I run a
really good time and they're like, hey, we want you
to come back. I was playing quarterback. We want you
to come back and go to another campus corner. And
so they're like, all right, all right, we'll do it. We'll
do it. You know Dan Mullen at the time asking
us to come back. Yeah, we'll come back. You know,
it's costing us a little money, but we'll you know,
we'll do it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We'll do it. Come back by another good time. And
they're like, hey, we want you to.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Come back to another camp, our big dog campus and
a big dog camp I'm sitting there like, are they
just money grabbing us? Yeah? Like are they just already
got enough T shirts? I mean I got enough T
shirts with the number three seventy two on it, you.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Know, Like I don't need any more of these. I'd
love to have one of those back in the day.
I mean unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So I go back and I'm like, you know what,
you know, pull up, go to this big dog camp.
And this is my i mean, first time playing corner
like ever.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, Like I'm just out there.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I played quarterback my whole life, you know, like let's
rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We started doing one on ones pig first rep.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Oh, I'm feeling like him like this is easy. This
is the next rep. I'm like, this is the easiest
thing I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
This is actually go in get an offer. I could
jump over the moon, right.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
So they want me to come to Missisipi State play
corner and so I'm like, oh shooting. So then missis
be State offers, then Southern miss offers.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm like, Hey, what do I want me to play?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They're like, we don't know, we just want you on
the bus. Okay, Alabama calls like a week and a
half later, and then after BAMA called, everybody called, and
so it was like I'm going through like this is
sophomore summer, going to my junior year. I'm trying to
figure out where the heck, you know, I want to go,
what the heck I want to do, and different places
are offering me different things. And one of the smaller
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schools was like, hey, man, we'll let you play quarterback.
And I was like, you know, beggars can't be choosers.
Back when, I was like I was just excited to
get an offer, you know, Like now I have a
bunch of options, like I want to play quarterback, you know,
And so I call all the bigger schools back, Hey,
you know, like I really appreciate you all this opportunity.
This is what an opportunity is over here. If y'all
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don't have the same opportunity, no love lost. I'm just
gonna go elsewhere. And they're like okay, someone were like okay,
I really appreciate it, you know, like all is well,
and then uh, one of and then they all kind
of went away, you know, play my junior season, and
I get a bunch of phone calls back, Hey, we
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want you to come play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And I'm like, oh yeah, you know, like they won't you.
And so.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Going through that, did that again. Then one of the
smaller schools again says hey, man, well let's play quarterback
and we'll let you play baseball.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So what do I do? I call, I pick up
the phone again. Guys, this is what the offer is.
If you're a master negotiator.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
If I got some leverage, I'm leveraging that thing, you
know what I mean. And some calling people back, Hey,
you know, this is the opportunity over here, and a
lot of them are like, Okay, let me get on
the phone with the baseball coach.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They'd call him back five minutes later. Hey, you're good
to go.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We can do it over here because you're on football's dollar,
you know, like of course, and so you're essentially a
walk on on the baseball team, right, but you're on
full scholarship because you're on the football team. So it's
like all the baseball coaches are like, we get a
free player. Yeah, you know, they're getting eleven point seven
scholarships free players, a free player. They love it, so like, yeah, absolutely,
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it's just the fact of doing it. And so go
to college at Ole Miss and go through my freshman
year football was the guy. Maggots her to end up
being the guy. Then there was a coaching change and
I go to Kiff. I'm like, hey, where do you do.
I had a kind of agreement that I was going
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to play baseball here.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
He was like, yeah, go ahead, to go play.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And so in the spring I played baseball, fall, I
played football, and then I went to UCF.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And that's when they really kind.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Of overlapped each other a little more because I was
I was a little serious about doing them both more,
you know, and we like during the spring, I got
coach love Lady, which was the head baseball coach at UCF,
and Mauson, the head football coach at UCF, in the
same room, and they were talking over calendars. Hey, what
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we're gonna do about this date? What we're gonna do
about this date? And there was some there were some
circles like, hey, we got the same thing happening right here,
like we got to do something. But like they really
jump through hoops like to make it happen.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It was unreal. Like a lot of people have seen.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
The video of me, you know, going from Memphis home
baseball game to then playing in the spring game.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Which was unbelievable, which was cool. Yeah, but I did.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I did that every day, like literally, would get up
do football until you know, twelve o'clock, would eat.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Lunch like in a to go bag. What have you
waiting on me?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And then would go to baseball, do baseball practice, eating
in the locker room, do baseball practice, and then would
some days would come back to football meetings in the
afternoon and then doing all know online school at the house.
The coolest one to me was we had a scrimmage
on a Saturday, football scrimmage, football scrimmage in the spring,
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and so I'm getting like five drives, six drives in
and so do my five six drives, get some touchdowns.
Malzon's like, all right, you're good, go ahead, I go again.
Food waiting for me. My buddy Kenny, work that works
at UCF, drove me to the airport. I hop on
a private jet. They fly me to ECU Land. On
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the ground, there's a driver waiting for me. Go straight
to the baseball field, but change in the dugout and
then we go out and we play double header versus ECU. Wow,
I mean truly, that's in real today is sports?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh truly unreal. Now we got killed by ECU. We
got but it was sick.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I mean, like, you know, just going from being like
I'm gonna play football and them'll hop on private jet
and then go play baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, sign me up, you know, like, yeah, how sick
is that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
You know, Like I was like, this is the coolest
thing I've ever done, you know, like this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Got load though, I mean it's something and as you
said too, like it's not like you're playing running back
or receiver, not saying that those are deloted positions when
it comes to the mental side of the game, but
you're you're rocking QB.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
At this time. Sure, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's like it's like, hey, you gotta gotta be pretty locked.
You gotta be very present.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You gotta be pretty long, very very very present over there.
But it was like, you know it, I mean, you know,
there are long days you're working, you know, like, but
like you're getting to play ball, which is like, you know,
that's always been my dream, and so it was it
was let's let's rock and roll, you know. But it
would be impossible if the people weren't there to help
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me right, Like if mols On and Lovely did not meet, yeah,
there's no way. You know, like if if Erica didn't
have food ready for me at some points during the day,
like I'd be like, I'm not eating today, you know,
like and so like there was there was a very
big community that made that happen, Whereas like you know,
they're I think they're telling kids these days, they're like, hey, yeah,
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you can do both whatever, and they're like come on,
and there's like there's no real like yeah yeah, and that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There are three there.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I think there has to be a real plan because
if not, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. You know,
kids today are specializing in one sport at like age eight,
eight years old, Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Like I hate it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Let the kids play ball, you know, like everything, Like
what you should be playing?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Should be running track?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh dude, you should be playing volleyball, chair basketball, soccer, football.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I mean in middle school, I played bad Bitten okay, yeah,
paying pong, I stow it at ping pong?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What else we got recreational poker? Yeah? Start them yell
what I mean, I think you gotta have a little
bit of in class.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Solitaire, shooting ball yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Pool.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Let's see how let's see how good these kids can
shoot it? Uh, some sort of swimming activity.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of everything.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You're in the water, yeah, know how to swim, know
how to swim?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Kick a ball in there. It's on the rise. I'm
a fan. Yeah, made as well. Golf, duh, I will.
I wish I started earlier. I got.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I have an old son, and is he swinging the
stick already?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He likes touching golf balls and footballs good.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Every night before I go to bed, his whole life,
I made this rule. Every night he's been alive, I
make him, before he falls asleep.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Touch a football every night. And now it's that's right.
It's going to muscle memory.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
When we do bath night, put his diaper on, get
him all ready to go for bedtime.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And before he got to get fed, I read a.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Bedtime story and then I get the football off the
shelf and I make sure he touches it. And now
he smiles and he loves the crazy football is coming.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's gonna be. This kid's gonna know I like football
very early. Call me a psycho, Call me psycho.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't care how to get dad's attention. Be good
at football, I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Have interest, have interest, But he will be swinging a
golf club.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I already looked into like the toys r us swing
a golf club packages and stuff like that. We're gonna
be going to do that. We're not gonna wait till
we're twenty four.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Now, I would have been in a better spot if
I would have started at a younger age.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
For sure, would you pursue?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think football and golf could be one of the
most deadly combos.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And it is good. It's a good deal. And it
reminds me of my boy Evan Thompson. Yeah sports, yeah
due him. He uh he did it in college. I
know he's but now he's he's about to his YouTube's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, he's about to make a play to go PGA,
p G A man like he's he's on the rise. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Obviously, keep up with him through social media, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
My main channel of watching them.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But like, he's a good follow, he's a good follow.
Free shout out to shout out.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I I do think, you know, in the era of
like talking dual sport athletes at a professional level, golf
and NFL would be a ring like go play a
PGA that would be electric, play a Rider's Cup and.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Didn't go play middle linebacker. That's some. That's some. I
mean that would I don't getting gritted.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That is greedy, that that would be gritted.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Was there ever a point when you were considering doing
both MLB and the NFL journey?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, So coming out of Heights, I I had an
opportunity to go in the draft out of high school,
and so it was a crazy time because like one
week of my recruitment process was like Monday, I had
there's area scouts for professional baseball teams and so like
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they'll have you know, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You know, like these guys will have.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You know, just the same as like football coaches in
college leveill have areas of you know, recruitment, same as applies.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
For area scouts and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
So had people had professional scouts coming to my baseball
games in high school, had college football scouts for college
teams coming to football games, and I mean they come
to schools, you know, like they they're they're coming to
just to say what's up. And so one week of
my senior year, I had the Yankees. I'm over to
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the house and they're you know, asking a bunch of questions,
doing their due diligence.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Then I had like.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
A management group. You know, for baseball you have an advisor.
You can't have an agent, technically, you have an advisor.
And so these people are pitching me to be my advisor.
Then I had Mississippi State the next night. Then I
had Old Miss, and then I had the Red Sox.
So I had Yankees and Red Sox, Missippi State, and
Old Mess all at the house in one week.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And I'm getting pitched, you know, like like hey do this.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You can play baseball, you can come to Misispi State
and play football, you know, And so it was crazy.
But so back to the question, Yeah, there was a
time in high school there was a like, hey I
go to college and play both sports. Hey I just
go to the MLB and just played baseball. Or there's
a scenario where hey, I signed my rights in high school,
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go play football and go to spring training. This is
a j Brown for Old Miss got drafted by I
think Padres, I think I think, I don't know if
that's right, but like he would go he was playing
football in college. He would go for like one week,
I think maybe two weeks, hit BP, do stuff, go
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see those people over there. And then with understanding that
football doesn't work out, baseball is the next thing after
you know what I'm saying, So like there's a there's
a scenario where I could do that as well. And
so I was kind of like, all, right, now what
do I want to do? Man, it'd be tough to
it would be hard to say no to playing both
in college, like having a real shot to play both. Like, man,
(18:38):
that's what's the dollar sign you put on that?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Right? So it's like and so like.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You're just fumbling around all these like different scenarios and
what ifs of like what.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
If I do this? What if I do that? And
so it was it was.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
A crazy lot of thinking during this time in my
young whatever, seventeen eighteen year old Brown tried to make
a life decision, you know, but had a lot of
good choices.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So it was it was fun.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It was fun, but definitely stressful because like, man, this this.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Is gonna this decision is gonna affect the rest of
my life, you know, like what are we what are
we going? To do. I think I made the right one.
It was fun. I think you did too.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Obviously things are working out in your favorite Sure coming
into the league, you know you've had You've.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Already become a journeyman.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, you've already become a journey find me there.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, what is what?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
What's the biggest takeaways you've learned about the business side
of the league.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
So yeah, it's it's it is very much a business.
It's a business league.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Like you know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So my quick story, this is my second year preseason,
and this is my third team I've been on. So
went undrafted to Pittsburgh, got cut off your camp, went
to Jacksonville for about half the year, got cut then
got invited to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And for a workout.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And so I go for the workout, and I'm like,
all right, let's rock and roll. You get there, you know,
they fly you up, go to sleep, wake up earlier,
doing a bunch of you know, they want you to
see a doctor, do a physical, do all this and that,
and you're here for like a day and a half
to for like a fifteen minute workout like it is.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It is very quick, you know, And so we get.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Up here, we me I get up here, and I'm like,
all right, do this all this deal.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Go to the facility. Here's a ball, start throwing.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
There's like four receivers, a safety or two and then myself.
So the safety us are doing whatever they're doing over there.
Me and these four receivers are kind of warming up.
I'm throwing to them and they're running through colons. Hey
run a corner, run a fifteen yard out, run, a slant,
run a go like that was essentially what they did.
Little route through some through some routes through the ball. Well,
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thinking like, man, this is great, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Go up to one of the guys here.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
One of the scouts here's Mississippi's like, hey man, great job.
You know what size of gloves do you wear? And
I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
He's like what goes where? I'm like, I guess large.
I mean, like I'm lord large.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Is that I have large?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
They're like yeah, they're like, can you mind running through
some cones and catching the ball a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm like, uh sure, I mean I don't have a job,
you know.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Like I'm like, yeah, yeah, absolutely, sign me up. Right,
I'm there, I'm game. They gave me some gloves, run
through some routes, catch it, finish through the line, do
the deal. Another five minutes on top of this workout,
I mean, like, I mean, seriously, it's it's that quick.
Then you're all you all go into this little little
waiting room. You're all kind of sitting there staring at
each other, like are they going to take anybody?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Like these guys are here with And so they start
calling us long at a time, and so like one
guy would go back and he come back in and
we look at him. He'd be like, nah, I'm going
back to the house.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And we're like, dang. Next that goes in, Nah, going
back to the house. Dang.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And so like I'm like the second to last guy
to go. They're like, hey, congrats, you made it. I'm like, sweet,
you're gonna be in the receiver room. Okay, sweet, nobody
else went home. I'm like all right, So the next
rest of the season, I'm just trying to blend in right, Like, yeah,
it's not like, hey, you're you made the team, go
back home, get your stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
You know you're going back. No.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I was at practice the next day in full pads
playing receiver. Were last week I was playing quarterback in
for the Jacks, you know. So I'm like, okay, let's
figure this out.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
So, like this is the only guy that I knew
in the receiver room was DK Metcalf because he's from
Mississippi and we had we had some run in because
he went to Old Miss. I had thrown them a
couple of times, and so he knew I think he
was the only one that knew of me in the
receiver room. And so he was like, he was like, oh,
what are you doing in here kind of deal, And
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I'm like, I'm playing receiver, you know, And so like
I'm watching these guys run routes, and so I'm just
literally trying to blend in, you know. And so for
the next like week and a half, two weeks, I'm
starting to get to know guys and I'm like, yeah,
this is kind of my first time, you know, I
did an Old Miss for like a little while, but
playing receiver, this is this is kind of my first
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real time doing it. And they're like, oh, man, you're
doing great, keep it up, you know. Like and so
like I was just that whole rest of that year,
I was trying to blend in, like and I'm getting
better at it, you know, over the weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
But unbelievable, unreal, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I was gonna ask, like, how did that conversation go?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And it wasn't a conversation.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It was it was crazy, no, like I didn't have
a job, and it's like, hey, you have a job,
but you playing receiver. I'm like, okay, let's do it,
you know, like let's rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It was. It was so crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
So I'm in Jacksonville, okay, And as I'm sure you know,
like usually teams will keep three quarterbacks on the roster, right,
They'll keep usually two on the active roster and then
a third on the practice squad, right, And so in
Jacksonville it's Trevor mac Jones at the time, and myself,
studs love those guys, hilarious, right, and so, but Max
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taking a lot of the practice squad reps, like taking
his reps with the scout team to make sure he's
getting refs. And so as the third quarterback, I'm just
not doing a lot, right, So I'm just over there
kind of posted up during practice. I'm trying to stamenttally
locked in, trying to learn the scheme because I got
there after camp, and so I'm playing catch up already,
trying to learn this scheme.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know, I'm sitting over there, not doing.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
A lot physically other than throwing the ball a couple
of times in practice. So I'm there for whatever, ten weeks, eight,
nine weeks, I don't know whatever, how many weeks I
was there, get cut. Then I go to seattleer are like, hey,
you're playing receiver. You're the Scout team receiver. You're running,
I mean, you were feeling it, You're running.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And so I'm running on Scout team doing this and that,
and they're like, hey, we need a body on the
defensive side of the ball playing safety.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'm your guy. I'm your guy. I'm over there, boom.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
So Scout Team offense, I'm running around, Scout Team defense,
I'm running around. So I go from doing nothing to
like to actually running the whole day. When I tell you,
one of the most sore times I've been in my life, really, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Believable.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
For a whole week, I was like I was living
in the tubs, like, yeah, ice tub, I need it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I have got to get it in.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
But to moving back on the initial question, business side
is crazy, like you know, like, make some really good
relationships in Pittsburgh, make some really good relationships in Jacksonville, now,
making some really good relationships here in Seattle. And it's
not about the relationships, Like it is strictly a numbers game.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It doesn't matter who you know or who you you know,
who your buddies with, Like it is a numbers game,
you know. Like in Pittsburgh, they cut me in, They're like, hey,
we're probably gonna sign you back.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
To the practice squad. Great, sounds great.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
The next day they have practice and one of the
offensive linemen hurts his pack got to bring it Oliman in.
They got to bring you alignment, and well, somebody's gotta go.
It ended up being me, Hey man, we were gonna
keep you, but now we have to bring in another alignment.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sorry, man's out there for you.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So it's just it's such a numbers game, so you
can't really take it personally, but like in the same sense,
like I always kind of do, you know, Like I'm like, dude,
like I get it, you know, like I want to
be on that I want to be in that number,
you know. Yeah, and so but yeah, like it's just
scratching clawon to be in that to be in that number,
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and so that's what we're that's.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What we're working for right now, it makes sense. I mean,
it's it's it's it's the numbers game. And like I said,
it's hard.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's so hard for people to understand that, Okay, just
to be on this ninety man roster that's that starts
of camps. Yeah, it's hard to get there an opportunity there, yes, yeah,
they're gonna chisel it down. And what it looks like
now is to say like teams don't just chisel it
down in one day, Like well, actually opposite. Some teams
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are chiseling it down all in one day. Some it
used to be like you have to taper it back,
so you go from.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Ninety to eighty five to eighty seventy five.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
To sixty two and then it's like who you're gonna
cut the last day where some franchises they're gonna cut forty.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Guys in one day, dude.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I feel like in Pittsburgh Crazy, it was like everybody's
here and it was like, hey, it's cut day, and
it was like oh shoot, so we go out like
you practice, like you go out and practice you get
off the field, you take a shower, and you're on
the way to lunch and you're just hoping you don't
get that tap on the shoulder, you know, like you're
just like, don't tap me on the shoulder. You're kind
of like, don't make eye contact with me kind of deal.
(27:26):
Get tapped on the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And it was like cut, cut, cut, cut cut. It
was what's the what's the cut? Like? How how fast
has it been for you?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It? I mean, I mean it sucks right, like you know,
you you you work your tail off and then it's
like it doesn't work out. Man, it really sucks, you know,
like you know it's it's stinks, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But it was in.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Pittsburgh it was hey, man, you know, like you did
a great job there in camp. We you know, we
just it's a numbers game and we're we're looking to
have you back on the practice squad, but as of
right now, we got to cut it before before we
can call you back.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And so it was like, is there anything I could
have done different? Now? Man, we think he did a
really good job. Just we got our guys that we want.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
All right, sweet, it sounds good, check hands and you roll,
and it's just it's just such a.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Such a cutthroat deal, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And so like my thing is, like you don't really
realize how few fifty three people are, especially.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Once you cut it in half on offense, unbelievable, Say
eighteen guys.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay, let's let's talk.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Like this, right, you get eleven starters on offense, eleven
on defense. That's twenty two people off the rip, right,
let's call it. Are we gonna go too deep at
each position?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Can't?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I mean, like at that point you're looking real thin already,
Like and so special teams.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You're gonna have your specialists. You're gonna have punter, kicker,
long stopper, Yeah, you have. You gotta have your guys.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Then after that, you gotta have offensive linemen because if
they get hurt, I mean they get banged.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Up all the time. Well in the tierri or you
got to have a couple of.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Defensive linemen two because like stuff gets banging in there.
Running backs you got to have a couple beat these three, right,
and so then linebackers, interior linebackers, and you're like, okay,
all right, those guys get hurt, and who we're gonna
pull up, you know, and then you got dbs. They
can kind of swap around a little bit, you know,
do what they need to do, but you got.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
To have one or two extra. Do we have a
fullback in our offense? Are we playing with the next thing?
You know? You're like, all right, that's seventy guys. That's
too many.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We have too many people on the roster, right, And
so it's like you don't really realize how few fifty
three is.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, it's impossible.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's it's it's truly unbelievable how small the number, because
you come from college to.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Where the sideline is just filled up with like.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
One hundred guys, Like you have one hundred teammates on
the sideline with you, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, and you know, like I feel like we had
one hundred and five on our roster. We dressed like
sixty eight, yeah something like that. Yeah, yeah, it's still
sixty eight. It's more than fifty three.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, fifty three doesn't mean this shit you through dressing either, No,
you're dressed forty eight.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
So I'm saying, yeah, like, and.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
So it is just I mean, it's like it is,
it is.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It is wild, how how few the number is, But.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I mean it just gives you more of appreciation of
like if you make it like you're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Something, you know, like you're that guy.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, You're you're doing something if you if you sneak
on there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So the last thing I saw some Johnny manziel a
couple of nights ago. Oh yeah, you were a true
freshman starter in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Sure you had a game where you went crazy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
how high for you? How much juice was in that game?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You know, we lost that game, So it sucks, right,
like you would love the game for that, like you're
known for to be a win.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Like a lot of people, a lot of Old Mess
people still come up to me and they're like, hey, man,
LSU game was crazy, yeah, and I would love to
be like, yeah, we killed them, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I would love people like yeah we got them boy. Yeah,
but like they ended up beating us, you know, so
it's stink.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
But it was such a it was such a cool deal,
you know, like I'm a Mississippi kid from Pattisburg playing
for Old Mess and so it was it just meant
a lot to be able to like play for Old
Mess right, and then to be the guy. It was
really cool. But in that game, like it was you know,
(31:20):
I didn't think we like it was just another team
for us. Like now everybody looks back at the twenty
nineteen LSU team and they're like, that's one of the
best college teams ever, you know, Like at the time,
we were like, yeah, they're good, but like we didn't think, yeah,
we didn't think they were going to be you know
who they were, and so we were just going into
it like We're about to give these boys business like
just like you do, just like you do every other game,
(31:42):
you know, and so and at the time, like during
the game, I didn't really realize how much of a
game it was for.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Me, you know, like I knew you don't.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, And I've never really been like a numbers guy,
stats guy, Like I always kind of want to know, hey, man,
do we win or we like, do we do enough
to win or do we you know, And so afterwards
I was just like, man, this, god, dude, we gotta
we gotta win some games, you know, Like I'm thinking that,
and then people are coming up, man, hey, great game,
great game, great game, and I'm like, great game.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
We lost dude, like this, what what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You know, like, but looking back, it was an awesome game, dude,
like fun you know obviously to be able to look back.
And Patrick Quain was on that team. He was a
linebacker and okay, funny story about that game. And so
SEC media, like the media behind SEC, I'm sure you
can like it's unbelievable, like so many reporters, so many
(32:38):
of this, so many that well, somebody early in the week.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Said something said a quote that I said, which was
not true.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
They said, I'm faster than everybody on the field, so
all I have to do is make it past the
d lineman or something to the effect of that.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
They started a rumor. They didn't paraphrase.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
No, brother, I'm telling you. And so one of my
buddies plays over at LSU, and I'm getting pictures of
this quote in people's lockers.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh it was. It was bulletin board. Bulletin boards.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I'm like, okay, this I mean, like what I mean,
like at the end of the day, whatever, you know,
like sounds good. My first play out there, first play
I'm running it. I think we called it Ruby, which
was just you know, straight quarterback outside zone right, like,
I'm running it, no other option, I'm running it right.
And Patrick Queen runs me down and tackles me and
(33:35):
he's like, you ain't that fast.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And I'm like, oh, okay, let's one of those. It's
gonna be one of us, you know, like okay. And
so I asked him about.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It later on in Pittsburgh and he was like, oh, yeah,
we were trying to kill you that game. We were
trying to absolutely take your cleats off. I was running
from my life right. And I look back at that
freshman season. I was probably one eighty five. I weighed nothing,
but was just like throw the body weight around.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It was recess. It was recess.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We were just out there playing backyard football good having
a dang good time doing it too. But it was
a fun game. Wish we would have won, but fun game.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah. Well, John, I appreciate you, man. I know you've
got some stuff to do. Well. Uh, we'll see you
at the golf tournament in March. Absolutely, I will be better,
got some we got.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Some major developments happening, so you'll you'll I'm fired, but
best of luck in Seattle and uh and beyond appreciate you, man.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I appreciate it bring the Just Boe
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