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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It goes country tonight, but it's been all bright.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Zach Seeker's back there behind the glass five six sixty
nine zero's text line, Bryan said, I forgot Bill Kenny
when I was riddling off Chiefs quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
His daughter was my first girlfriend, actually her you know
air quotes girlfriend h in school back in the day.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How about some Tyler Thigpen love.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, that was after my time in Kansas was well
after my time in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That's when Chan Gaily was. Youc there they were in
the they was at the Arrow Spread with Tyler Thigpenn. Yeah,
my four of five years of Chiefs football. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I do remember those those years. Obviously, I hadn't
lived in Kansas City, I think in twenty years at
the point he was he was there.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I can't quite remember what years he was there.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I think that was like, oh gosh, it would have
been oh sick, no, two seven, maybe two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Do you ever take somewhere in there? Yeah, yeah, I
wouldn't have before Reid came to town.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, at that point, I mean I hadn't lived in
in Kansas City in twenty years at that at that
point but I do remember that he uh it came
out of nowhere to uh to get all the sensation. Now,
I think people forget that he went one in tennis
a starter, but.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But you know, for that one season that he was
there a uh you know, I mean Todd Haley wasn't
a head coach for long for a reason.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And Todd is Actually I've known Todd for a few years.
He's he was coaching high school ball. Uh not that,
not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh wow, good on it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, he's offensive coordinating down and down in Florida. He's
on Twitter now, by the way, you can actually find
him on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Like he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Advertise account or put a lot out there, a whole lot,
but he's he's out there on on Twitter. And by
the way, that was her Edwards, not Todd Haley. That
was coaching the Chiefs here. You know who else was
on that offensive staff? Who Kevin Pittulo?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh look at that. Hey, all comes full circle.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So if you wonder why the offense was bad, there
you go, Yeah, that was the Gosh who were the
other Because Brody Croyle was the starter, there was another
there was another quarterback in there though, And I can't
for the life I remember who it was after Croyle
was the glass.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Can I when Castle was there? Would it be? I
wasn't mac Castle. This was.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
As Matt Castle came when McDaniels, because McDaniels wanted was
the one who wanted Matt Castle and then wound up with.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
What's the mccallin's I, Oh my god, why can't I
remember it was?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's one of the groups of brothers, not the Hasslebecks
who were Damon.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, because the rock Heward and David Hrey, the Hewarts.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I was like, it's not the hassle By see other
group of brothers, not the mccowns. Yeah, yeah, because Damon
Hewart was there for a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think if I remember then he was he was awful.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Uh. And then they they put in Tyler A think
pen was Chan Gailey's kind of project or whatever, and
he played all right, but they I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It was just bad team and they you know, they
were losing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I don't remember is that the year was that
the tape the diapers off year for Larry Johnson tape
the dial you remember what talking about. I think Larry
Johnson was a guy that the Chiefs. The draft they
had to mulch and they had I think it was
after that because I think it was whenever he had
the dickvill That would have been two thousand and four.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, the two.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Thousand and four or five six seasons whatever it was,
and he had of those carries, and uh, Dick for
Meal finally turned him loose because they drafted him and
then they didn't use him for like the first year
at all, and Dick Forvelle said they had to he
had to take the diapers off or whatever he needed
to take his diapers off, and then you know, it was, yeah,
it was, it turned into a thing. And then he
finally he had a you had like a I think
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it was like a two season run there where he
was all.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Right, then he got hurt. Was never the same, uh
to that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But that was when they had that one two punch
of Larry Johnson Jamal Charles. That was that was something
else or was it Priest Holmes. Was Larry Johnson Priest Holmes?
I think maybe that's an.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Absurd duo Larry Johnson in Priest Times Great Backs.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, that was I'm pretty sure Jamal Charles came after that.
If I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, Priest Holmes nice he was.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He was way after that. Okay, I'm trying to remember.
That was the team that they had. I mean, it
was when Dick for Meal was there. Was pretty stacked.
They had some guys Hols, Larry Johnson, They had Tony
Gonzalez at the.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Tight end, and that offensive line was was something else.
I said.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Tony Richardson was probably the best full back of that era.
Him and Lorenzo O'Neill probably the best fullbacks out there.
They had a guy who came to the the Eddie
Kennison who was with the Broncos for a while. Straight
speed guy, had no hands whatsoever, couldn't catch a cold.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
This is doing nothing for the I'm not a Chiefs fan, Laura.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That was the Dante Hall era too.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That was just I mean, I remember, I think give you,
I can give you the same breakdown of the Broncos.
Broncos fan remembers what the Broncos had during that true, true,
you know, so uh as far as the rest of
it goes, yeah, I mean that was well after the
time my time that I lived there in Kansasay. As
we look at the coming playoffs, is there is anybody
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here we're afraid of? Is there anybody here?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, because I don't think I'm afraid of any
of these teams. I think the Broncos can go to
tote with any of them.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But there are certain teams I don't want to if
I had my my my preferences. So look at I
don't want to play the Bills again. I'm worried about that.
I don't want to play the Chargers. I don't want
to play Houston again. Those those feel like, uh, those
feel like I'm asking for it at that point. I
mean that the Texans really kind of got motivated after
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the Broncos game, and really that kind of turned their
seas around.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Stroud went down, Davis Mills kind of got them rolling,
and I don't know, like I've shared some of these
graphs so that people can really see because I've talked
about it for a while how nasty the since defense is.
But how nasty it is because they don't disguise anything,
Like they don't vary anything, they don't disguise anything. Have
you seen those charts that I shared or whatever?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's legion of Boomsque, like when you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Run the same saying every play, Yeah, legion of Boom defense.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They just ran like Cover three and then a couple
of slight variations off it darn near every single play,
and it was or the nineties Cowboys offense is if
you've got enough dudes on your team. Now, those units
both had several Hall of Famers. Maybe this this Texans
unit will end up being similar.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
In that regard.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
But if you've got the dudes, you can just line
up and dare people to be which I will say
is part of the reason I'm a little cranky with fans.
Joseph so well, it's just harder to coach defense at
this point in the season. Like, yes, there's merit to that,
but the Texans aren't hiding what they're doing at all,
and they're.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Still having tremendous success. The Broncos are one of the
teams that disguises and blitzes the most.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, no, you know, it's contrasting styles.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I mean, Houston is his own defense, that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
But Demiko Ryans is got and there's there's there is
sort of a value to that, like we're going to
line up and do the same thing every play. There
is sort of a value to that because communication as
as you get on.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
To the season, you're not leaking oil. You're getting better,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, Like like if you're a if you're a defense
like the Broncos, that requires a lot of communication because
there's a lot of rules. I mean, it's inside outside
leverage or we go man, it doesn't become zone because
so there's a lot of rules and a lot of
communication comes to that. There's a simplicity that makes things
a lot easier when it comes to that. You have
you have to have four guys up front that can
get after the quarterback, which the Texans do.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, they've unreal past fresh chances right now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Like that is if you have that, you can you
can make the rest of it work. If you got
the right amount of dudes, You got the right kind
of dudes, And it is it's fasting to watch. I
call their defense so disrespectful because they don't let they
don't disguise, just like this is what we're doing. If
you can beat it, yeah, and no one can right now,
Like there's ways you can pick at it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But again, even if you look at their losses, it's
more of the you know, fifteen to eighteen variety, like
the Broncos side, they're not letting a lot of teams
score on them. And I think, you know, if you
want to talk units, they might have the best unit
in the entire AFC playoffs, and I think that is
why they're, you know, one of the more scary teams.
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But even them, like we saw the Broncos beat them
on the road with even if Davis Mills was better
than CJ. Shroud in that moment, I think Stroud is
playing at a higher level now than Mills did then.
But I think the Broncos should be able to take
care of business if the two were to match up.
The teams I'm afraid of in the playoffs are coming
from the NFC side where you're looking at.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Because I didn't only get that in the Super Bowl
though totally, But.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I just mean, I think it contextualizes the AFC end
of the bracket. There's not that team with wow, they've
got a great offense and a great defense. You've got
the teams with great defenses and you've got the teams
with great offenses. The Broncos are maybe the closest thing
to being a balanced unit on either side of the ball,
and so I'm not overly scared of any of these teams.
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I think they're all gettable in one way or another.
Like the Patriots defense has been terrible against the run
for a month and a half. Now they're gettable through
the air. You just got to hope to either limit
their offense or outscore them. And I think the Broncos
defense can limit that offense. It's only in the Super
Bowl where I think the Broncos could be running up
against a team like the Seahawks or Rams or even
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the forty nine ers, where they present so many problems
on either side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think Buffalo and Houston I would lump them in
those categories.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I think they do.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And the other thing about Houston, he is not just
the CJ's playing a lot better. So they discovered they've
got Jawar Jordan too. The runhocks they've been on Nick
Chubb and Woody Marks all year, A Juar Jordan, who's
averaging five yards per carry in the three games that
they've discovered that they actually have him has really kind
of given them some explosives out of that backfield. He's
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average sixty three point three yards per game. On thirteen
attempts a game. Then he catches the ball out of
the backfield too, but he's having him back there has
given a spark to that backfield that it did not
have with Nick Chubb and Wood.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He marks it has. But still I think that offense
is a little underwhelming. You know, you get the two
quick touchdowns against the Chargers this past week, but then
after that, their offense really struggled to move the ball,
either passing or running the football. I think it's just
all the AFC teams has a big glaring flower or two.
I prefer the Broncos questions honestly to a lot of
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the rest of the AFC, because I think you're getting
Bonix's best play right now.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think that'd be one of the big question marks.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But since the mini bye, he's i think third of
the AFC playoff quarterbacks and EPA per dropbacks, so he's
holding his own.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And then I think, you know, the run game.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
If you get Dobbins back for the AFC Championship game,
that's at least half the sample side.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'd feel a little bit better about that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
If the defense can find any you know, emblance of
what they were doing early on in the season. I
think the Broncos are are clearly the best team in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I know, my biggest question mark is the Bills, you know,
and and and what they agree what they ultimately are.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Of course, James Cook is a is a unit. That
dude is a is a.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
One man wrecking crew, and you let him get free
and and whatever. Josh Allen doesn't have to be the
NFL MVP caliber traditional quarterback in terms of slinging it
all over the yard. When you've got somebody like Cook
and then Alan helps Cook because of his legs, it
opens up additional rushing lanes for Cook, who just needs
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a little bit to go.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
My question.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I guess about the Bills is you know, outside of
Khalis Shakir, who is their most reliable receiving target.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, they don't. They don't really have one. I think
that's where you can get after them. But again, they
want to run the ball at you and attack you
that way. Now, I think the Broncos run defense has
been a little underrated, you know, talking about this stretch
where the defense has been regressing, it's really the past
defense that's regressed. The run defense has been nailed up
yelp for a while. Even if you know there's a
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moment here or there with like Travis Etim, the run
defense as a whole has still been pretty strong.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I weirdly feel okay about that.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I'd feel it a lot better about it if they
do meet up in the AFC Championship and you do
have Dobbins back, just because I think the Achilles heel
of that Bills unit right now is you can run
on them. You can really run the ball on them.
That defense is built that way. It's a Tampa two defenses.
If you can run on them, you can be and
the D line's gettable. But I can you run on
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them with R. J. Harvey for one hundred and fifty
yards that I doubt the Bills want you to try
and spread it out and pass the ball on them.
When they get into lighter personnel, then they do look
like a really good defense, but they struggle to stop
the run. I just wonder if the Broncos in their
current state could exploit that to the level they'd have to, and.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
If they have the patience to do it given the
also necessary. You know, you look at this thing and
we're going to finish it right now. Bo Nicks is
tied for the lead and most dropbacks and most passing
attempts in the NFL with Dak Prescott. That is not
a recipe for I mean, I understand where we're at,
but that's not the recipe for success in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
No, And it's one thing I think for that to
be where it is at season's end, I think it's
inexcusable that it was there. They were at least in
a similar ballpark like after Week ten. The first ten
weeks of this season, BO was rough and JK Dobbins
was the leading force on this offense. I don't think
anyone would disagree that this was a run first offense
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up until JK. Dobbins exited the picture. Coincidentally, that happened
to be when bo Nick started to turn it on too,
getting that extra break with the mini buy to work
on some things. But that's like, that's what you've got
right now with Bo. But you still shouldn't be, you know,
the most pass heavy team in the league because you
should have been a run heavy team for the first
two thirds of the season.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, some one four not so much afraid of the Patriots,
but would just be pissed if we lost them, and
how that would feed into the Drake May versus bo
Nick's lower Hey, you know what I'm here for that.
I mean, you know we had the Brady versus Manning stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Why not? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And you know Drake May is gonna win an MVP.
He might stack up more individual wards win MVP this year.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I guess I'm Stafford interesting. I'm still rolling with with May.
But yeah, either way, W'll get a top two finish
this year. I'll take the team accomplishments that Brady earned
over the individual accomplishments of Manning and I think the
five MVPs something like.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That, he said, too.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
A football fan of all the Broncos because I'm in Denver.
I also like the chief Sauce, like the Chargers, like
multiple teams in the NFL. Screw anybody who says you
can't vote for another team and be a Broncos fan.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well I don't. I don't vote for anything.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I know what the Broncos to win because I'm being
successful makes my job more fun.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But I don't. I'm a football fan, not a not
a fan of it. Like I didn't grow up as
a fan of a team.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I grew up with a fan of the sport, and
then I had players I liked or coaches I liked,
And now I mean, I'm pretty obviously and I root
for my friends that are coaches.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, and I think everybody knows some of the
who those are. But I don't like, I don't have
a team.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I want the Broncos to win because it makes my
job a lot easier and make it makes more fun.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
But I'm a fan of the sport.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, same, I you know, Bronco's doing well makes our
lives a whole lot easier, So I like that to
to happy as much as possible. But yeah, I tend
to just gravitate to whatever story or team is exciting
me in the moment, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, NFL s expect we come back. I can reach
out to see if Danny can Almos to come on
the program. We've had him on in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, that's always I'd be done to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is there a reason to like, is there a specific
reason to have him on or I don't know. Okay,
well we'll see. I'll see if we can have them on.
It's been a few years, like Ryan and I had
him on back when Ryan and I were doing BCTs.
That's been what three or four years? I guess that's
been a while. Let's get the NFL SIXPEC. It's time
for the NFL six the last year insight and inside
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
The top SIXFL headlines.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
What Troy Aikman is now part of the Miami Dolphins
GM search committee as they look for their next GM.
How do you think this impact this will impact their search?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And do you think this is a good.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Move to involve Troy Aikman in the decision making process.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I think bringing in, you know, outside voices can help.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I certainly think that there's especially if.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You're not a football guy, you know, you've got to
hire a general manager. You gotta hire somebody to be
in charge of your football operations. Maybe bringing in somebody
who's betaf who's a high level former.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Player, was around great coaching and Jim Johnson.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You know, I think having that all is And Troy,
even though he's air quotes just an announcer, now every
week he's going to pre production meetings, talking to general
managers around the league, all that kind of stuff. You
kind of get a sense of what successful general managers
are saying and what guys that are floundering are saying.
Then it gives you the opportunity in those interview rooms
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to inject that into the conversation or maybe ask questions
that Steven Ross wouldn't even think to ask. So I
think it's a good thing that he's on that. I
think that's good on Steven Ross. I if I were
Steven Ross, I would also have some coaches and general
managers former.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Guys in that room too to maybe maybe help with that.
And there are certainly guys that he could bring in
that he knows, you know, they could do that. End
of the day, I think it's a net positive. It's
not this isn't like.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
A permit position with the with the Dolphins or anything.
He's just there to advise in the search.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And I remember four months ago when there was a
lot of hubbub about Tom Brady having access to these,
you know, different team facilities, all these these pre show
meetings and whatnot where you're you're interviewing the different players
and coaches and maybe as a result of that having
a leg up on other organizations. As the Raiders owner
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and he might know who the best up and coming
GM or head coach candidates are. Well, if that's a
competitive advantage for Tom Brady, you'd figure it's also one
for Preignan, who's been doing this for a whole lot
longer and has more connections, right.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
You know, the Broncos had John Elway in on the
you know, the search for his successor. They had Elway
in on the search for head coach and stuff like that.
You know there are I do believe that having additional
voices and that you don't want too many, but having
a few.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Extra voices in the room could help challenge you on
some things I think is generally a good thing.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Who on that note, this past week, Jay Glazer reported
that the Falcons could be interested in giving Matt Ryan
a major front office role within the organization. How likely
do you think it is that the Falcons will actually
hire Ryan and if so, what would that role look
like in your opinion? And do you think John Elway's
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success in Denver is it all a motivator for some
of these teams turning to franchise legends? Of course Egman
didn't play in Miami, but you've gotten that Ryan with
the Falcons and Tony Biselli, Colorado native, has had a
huge role and the Jaguars turnaround at least in that
front office. In P's their only retired number in franchise history.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, well, let's let's start with it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I would say that a lot of organizations are turning
to great football players and bringing them in. Luke Keikley,
you know, is another one, not a quarterback, but they
probably a lot of guys are are turning the great
players and and doing that kind of stuff and bringing
those kinds of those kinds of guys in. I will
say that in Atlanta's case, you've got a guy and
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Terry Fontenaute, who basically came up under Sean Payton. He'd
been with the New Orleans Saints since two thousand and
three as a scout, but he was the director of
Pro Scouting under Sean Payton and the assistant GM and
VP of Pro person elit or Sean Payton.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And I would suggest that I.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I would say that's probably an area of Sean Payton's
that's a weakness. I think Sean Payton's personnel decisions, by
and large, over the course of his career have not
always been very good. I think having him in there
with George Peyton, I think helps him out quite a bit,
especially here in Denver. We'll see long term what that
looks like, but this defense was a George Peyton build.
The offense, which is still a work in progress, will see.
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But I think that there were some personnel issues in
New Orleans at times, and paying of guys too much
that cost you in other areas that hurt out. Terry
Fouteau came up under Sean Payton and Nicki Loomis, and
you know, I don't think he's been particularly effective there.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
In Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I think some of the same issues are rearing their
head there, and which is why I was fascinating that
Sean Payton had that troll tweet under the NFL thing,
because Terry Founta was a guy he knew his whole career.
He was a Saint his whole career before he was
a Falcon. Matt Ryan will add something to that room.
How much remains to be seen, whether he's good at it,
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whether he's bad at it, whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
He is going to be in that room. I do
believe we'll see there.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
There's they're trying to keep him in the booth with
a bump and his pay or whatever. But I think
he I think he's itching to get into that other
aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I think i'd be fascinating to watch. I like seeing
more guys.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Do this, and you know what, if that's gonna get
Ryan out of the booth, I would love to see
the Cowboys start making a bid.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
For Tony Roman only were almost so much.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It was funny because when he was doing the predicting
plays thing, and everybody was like going gaga over it,
and I'm like, this is easy.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Watch I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And you could sit there and Nick and I did
on the air where I was predicting a couple of
the plays. You know, I'm like, this is not that hard.
If you've ever played football, it's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You can see him lined up, you.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
More or less know about eighty percent of the time,
you kind of know, you know more or less what's
coming here. And so Nick and I would alternate plays
and do the thing like it's not it's not that
difficult to do. You're gonna be wrong on some but
it's not that difficult. And then and then Tony, after
he got paid, kind of quit doing that, which was
the thing that was making everybody go gaga.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I wasn't like he was providing high level analysis of anything.
He's just the play.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Predicting was sort of the fun of it. I don't
Tony feels like he's been mailed at in since he
got paid.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I think he was fresh out of the league and
had his finger on the pulse of everything that was
going on, and so when he got right in the booth,
it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And I don't think he thinks the work. I don't
think exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't think he's been diligent enough in his preparation
to where his finger is still on the pulse without
him being an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like when he went straight from being a starting NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Quarterback to the booth, he had all the reps in
the film room and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, to get back to the original question.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Matt Ryan, I believe he's gonna get like a President
of Football Ops title.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
He'll be like a de facto general manager, but he'll
get the.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
President of Football Ops and he'll be aligning the infrastructure
to make that organization better.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Three perfectly setting me up here talking about another President
of Football Ops and some front office restructuring. The Titans
are continuing their coaching search and they've announced a restructuring
of their front office in the.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Middle of it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Since the latest chapter currently at least in a long
standing power struggle that dates back to at least the
Rayble years, Mike Borganzi, their GM, is now taking over
control of the fifty three man roster, which he didn't
have until now. He's also taking over control of the
coaching search from the President of Football Ops Chad Brinker,
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who is controlling both of those things along with a
myriad of other things and seemingly helped push ran Carthin
out of that.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Building in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Will this be the end the resolution of that power
struggle in Tennessee with Mike Burgonzi becoming the GM and
having all that control over the roster or is this
just the latest chapter of dysfunction for the Tennessee Titans. Also,
who's going to be their next head coach? Well, let's
start with the dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
A lot of that came because Chad Brinker and ran
Carthin were button heads and it really wasn't clearly delineated
what the responsibilities were for either one. Brinker kind of
ran an end around Carthon and to the ownership and
got him removed, and then you bringing Mike Borgonzi.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well, they didn't clear up.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
The division of responsibilities, and so finally Mike Borganzi and
Chad Brinker had had to sit down and like, all right,
we need to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
As to who's doing what.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And so basically, Borgonzi's going to be more of a
traditional general manager and charge the ninety man, in charge
the fifty three, those kinds of things, where Brinker is
going to be more of the I'm going to handle
all the other all the off field type stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'll handle analytics, I'll handle.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
All the you know, all the other departments that go
into this, and then we'll funnel them through and we'll
each independently report to ownership. And so I think it will.
I think that part of it is settled now. I'm
not a big Chad Breaker fan. I think he's a snake.
But whatever, if he and Borganzi are working, you know,
he's not my boss, don't have to worry about it.
But he and Borganzi found a way to work together,
so be it. Borgonzi, for his part, wants some different
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guys than Chad Brinker wants. In terms of the next
head coach of the Titans, Brinker wants Jeff Hafley, who's
the defensive coordinator to the Packers. Mike Borganzi is a
bigger fan of bringing in Matt Naggie or Mike Kafka,
who he's worked with before, and I think both Naggi
and Kafka could be brought in.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
By the way, there's a there's a scenario where both
those guys are probably.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
They are going to interview Vance Joseph Mike McCarthy, Arthur
Smith or some guys that ownership wants them to interview.
But there was a little bit of a Headbut in
terms of who's gonna be hiring the coach, it is
now Borganzi's search to run Breaker can do input, but
it is Borganzhi's head coaching search or.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Sean McVay has said that the Rams will play their
starters this week, regardless of the minimal seeding implications at play.
There's a chance that by the time the Rams kick off,
it's all been sorted out. Even this comes as a
major zag to his past handlings of these situations, where
he sat starters even with definitive seating implications on the line.
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What do you make of this switch up from Sean McVay,
especially as so much of the league like Jim Harbaugh,
it starts copying his old strategy of sitting starters.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Well, okay, for Harbaugh, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Harbor would not be sitting guys if they they don't
care about the seating.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
They're fine with whomever. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
They do believe all the home teams are beatable, and
they would rather not tip their hand to Denver, a
team they could play in a couple of weeks anyway.
So it winds up being a scenario where they just
bring out the backups and go from there.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Plus they get healthy to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
As far as Sean McVey goes, he has rested guys
and it has resulted in some rust in the playoffs,
and I think he sort of feels like that there's
a continuity here that these guys are kind of getting
to their best football and they and they're playing.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So I think he wants to just continue that as
it were.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think he's the resting and it hasn't really worked,
It hasn't done anything. What are you gonna do resting
Matt Stafford at this point, they have his back tightened
up from having two weeks off.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I mean, you know, so at.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
This point, I think you just you go out there
to play a game and go from there.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Five Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy is set to return for
the Minnesota Vikings after a couple of weeks out of
the lineup.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
What do you think the Vikings will do.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
At the quarterback position this offseason getting.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Ready for next year?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And do you think there's any potential they move on
from JJ McCarthy this offseason and making someone else's developmental problem. No,
JJ McCarthy will be back in Minnesota next year, but
they will bring in a mid tier veteran that'll push him.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You're not going.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
To start this next season with Carson Wentz and Max
Brosmer is the only potential guys that can move him.
I imagine there'll be a reclamation project. I'm not saying
necessarily to a but you know it'll be a reclamation
project type guy that has starting experience that can push
JJ just a little bit and go from there.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So they will bring somebody in. Six.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Last one here after this week's college football quarter finals
four teams have punched their ticket to the semifinals. That's
number one Indiana and they'll face number five Oregon. On
the other end of the bracket, you have number six
Ole Miss getting ready to square off with number ten Miami.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Ben Who will win it?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
All of these final four teams and what do you
make of the lower seeds recent success in these last
two seasons under the new format. We've seen a lot
of these teams with five weeks fail early on, and
a lot of the five, six, seven.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Eight seeds performed very well.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean, just because they're seeded somewhere doesn't necessarily
mean the seeding people got it right.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
You know, I think that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think there's something to a continuity and not having
like a month off. You know, you've seen some of
these teams look rusty that have been off, and that's
something that's plagued college football for a while.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
This isn't new as far as the rest of it goes.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You know, I thought the final four was going to
wind up being UH, Texas Tech, Indiana, Ohio State, and
Old Miss. So I'm gonna go with the teams that
I picked, and I'll say Old miss in Indiana in
the finals Miami, though, they surprised me.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
They played really well. I had an eyebrow open for that.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
With the Oregon thing, it was whatever Texas Tech's offense
didn't show up. If their offense has shown up at
game would have been if the game wasn't as far
apart as the number, you know, suggested they're that twenty
three nothing that you just had Texas Tech committing turnovers
all over the place. That offense was was horrible. They've
got to go out and get a quarterback through the
transfer portal, and I think they've got their eye on
the kid from Cincinnati. They can afford them, all right,
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they're paying so much money to it's but that's the
modern you know, without the money's above board.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know, the Dick Stabans in the world don't have
an advantage. Was that out loud? My fad Broncos Country
daggrolls out of this
It goes country tonight, but it's been all bright.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Zach Seeker's back there behind the glass five six sixty
nine zero's text line, Bryan said, I forgot Bill Kenny
when I was riddling off Chiefs quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
His daughter was my first girlfriend, actually her you know
air quotes girlfriend h in school back in the day.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How about some Tyler Thigpen love.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, that was after my time in Kansas was well
after my time in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That's when Chan Gaily was. Youc there they were in
the they was at the Arrow Spread with Tyler Thigpenn. Yeah,
my four of five years of Chiefs football. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I do remember those those years. Obviously, I hadn't
lived in Kansas City, I think in twenty years at
the point he was he was there.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I can't quite remember what years he was there.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I think that was like, oh gosh, it would have
been oh sick, no, two seven, maybe two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Do you ever take somewhere in there? Yeah, yeah, I
wouldn't have before Reid came to town.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, at that point, I mean I hadn't lived in
in Kansas City in twenty years at that at that
point but I do remember that he uh it came
out of nowhere to uh to get all the sensation. Now,
I think people forget that he went one in tennis
a starter, but.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But you know, for that one season that he was
there a uh you know, I mean Todd Haley wasn't
a head coach for long for a reason.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And Todd is Actually I've known Todd for a few years.
He's he was coaching high school ball. Uh not that,
not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh wow, good on it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, he's offensive coordinating down and down in Florida. He's
on Twitter now, by the way, you can actually find
him on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Like he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Advertise account or put a lot out there, a whole lot,
but he's he's out there on on Twitter. And by
the way, that was her Edwards, not Todd Haley. That
was coaching the Chiefs here. You know who else was
on that offensive staff? Who Kevin Pittulo?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh look at that. Hey, all comes full circle.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So if you wonder why the offense was bad, there
you go, Yeah, that was the Gosh who were the
other Because Brody Croyle was the starter, there was another
there was another quarterback in there though, And I can't
for the life I remember who it was after Croyle
was the glass.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Can I when Castle was there? Would it be? I
wasn't mac Castle. This was.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
As Matt Castle came when McDaniels, because McDaniels wanted was
the one who wanted Matt Castle and then wound up with.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
What's the mccallin's I, Oh my god, why can't I
remember it was?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's one of the groups of brothers, not the Hasslebecks
who were Damon.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, because the rock Heward and David Hrey, the Hewarts.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I was like, it's not the hassle By see other
group of brothers, not the mccowns. Yeah, yeah, because Damon
Hewart was there for a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think if I remember then he was he was awful.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Uh. And then they they put in Tyler A think
pen was Chan Gailey's kind of project or whatever, and
he played all right, but they I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It was just bad team and they you know, they
were losing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I don't remember is that the year was that
the tape the diapers off year for Larry Johnson tape
the dial you remember what talking about. I think Larry
Johnson was a guy that the Chiefs. The draft they
had to mulch and they had I think it was
after that because I think it was whenever he had
the dickvill That would have been two thousand and four.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, the two.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Thousand and four or five six seasons whatever it was,
and he had of those carries, and uh, Dick for
Meal finally turned him loose because they drafted him and
then they didn't use him for like the first year
at all, and Dick Forvelle said they had to he
had to take the diapers off or whatever he needed
to take his diapers off, and then you know, it was, yeah,
it was, it turned into a thing. And then he
finally he had a you had like a I think
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it was like a two season run there where he
was all.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Right, then he got hurt. Was never the same, uh
to that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But that was when they had that one two punch
of Larry Johnson Jamal Charles. That was that was something
else or was it Priest Holmes. Was Larry Johnson Priest Holmes?
I think maybe that's an.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Absurd duo Larry Johnson in Priest Times Great Backs.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, that was I'm pretty sure Jamal Charles came after that.
If I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, Priest Holmes nice he was.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He was way after that. Okay, I'm trying to remember.
That was the team that they had. I mean, it
was when Dick for Meal was there. Was pretty stacked.
They had some guys Hols, Larry Johnson, They had Tony
Gonzalez at the.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Tight end, and that offensive line was was something else.
I said.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Tony Richardson was probably the best full back of that era.
Him and Lorenzo O'Neill probably the best fullbacks out there.
They had a guy who came to the the Eddie
Kennison who was with the Broncos for a while. Straight
speed guy, had no hands whatsoever, couldn't catch a cold.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
This is doing nothing for the I'm not a Chiefs fan, Laura.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That was the Dante Hall era too.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That was just I mean, I remember, I think give you,
I can give you the same breakdown of the Broncos.
Broncos fan remembers what the Broncos had during that true, true,
you know, so uh as far as the rest of
it goes, yeah, I mean that was well after the
time my time that I lived there in Kansasay. As
we look at the coming playoffs, is there is anybody
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here we're afraid of? Is there anybody here?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, because I don't think I'm afraid of any
of these teams. I think the Broncos can go to
tote with any of them.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But there are certain teams I don't want to if
I had my my my preferences. So look at I
don't want to play the Bills again. I'm worried about that.
I don't want to play the Chargers. I don't want
to play Houston again. Those those feel like, uh, those
feel like I'm asking for it at that point. I
mean that the Texans really kind of got motivated after
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the Broncos game, and really that kind of turned their
seas around.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Stroud went down, Davis Mills kind of got them rolling,
and I don't know, like I've shared some of these
graphs so that people can really see because I've talked
about it for a while how nasty the since defense is.
But how nasty it is because they don't disguise anything,
Like they don't vary anything, they don't disguise anything. Have
you seen those charts that I shared or whatever?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's legion of Boomsque, like when you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Run the same saying every play, Yeah, legion of Boom defense.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They just ran like Cover three and then a couple
of slight variations off it darn near every single play,
and it was or the nineties Cowboys offense is if
you've got enough dudes on your team. Now, those units
both had several Hall of Famers. Maybe this this Texans
unit will end up being similar.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
In that regard.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
But if you've got the dudes, you can just line
up and dare people to be which I will say
is part of the reason I'm a little cranky with fans.
Joseph so well, it's just harder to coach defense at
this point in the season. Like, yes, there's merit to that,
but the Texans aren't hiding what they're doing at all,
and they're.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Still having tremendous success. The Broncos are one of the
teams that disguises and blitzes the most.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, no, you know, it's contrasting styles.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I mean, Houston is his own defense, that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
But Demiko Ryans is got and there's there's there is
sort of a value to that, like we're going to
line up and do the same thing every play. There
is sort of a value to that because communication as
as you get on.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
To the season, you're not leaking oil. You're getting better,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, Like like if you're a if you're a defense
like the Broncos, that requires a lot of communication because
there's a lot of rules. I mean, it's inside outside
leverage or we go man, it doesn't become zone because
so there's a lot of rules and a lot of
communication comes to that. There's a simplicity that makes things
a lot easier when it comes to that. You have
you have to have four guys up front that can
get after the quarterback, which the Texans do.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, they've unreal past fresh chances right now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Like that is if you have that, you can you
can make the rest of it work. If you got
the right amount of dudes, You got the right kind
of dudes, And it is it's fasting to watch. I
call their defense so disrespectful because they don't let they
don't disguise, just like this is what we're doing. If
you can beat it, yeah, and no one can right now,
Like there's ways you can pick at it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But again, even if you look at their losses, it's
more of the you know, fifteen to eighteen variety, like
the Broncos side, they're not letting a lot of teams
score on them. And I think, you know, if you
want to talk units, they might have the best unit
in the entire AFC playoffs, and I think that is
why they're, you know, one of the more scary teams.
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But even them, like we saw the Broncos beat them
on the road with even if Davis Mills was better
than CJ. Shroud in that moment, I think Stroud is
playing at a higher level now than Mills did then.
But I think the Broncos should be able to take
care of business if the two were to match up.
The teams I'm afraid of in the playoffs are coming
from the NFC side where you're looking at.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Because I didn't only get that in the Super Bowl
though totally, But.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I just mean, I think it contextualizes the AFC end
of the bracket. There's not that team with wow, they've
got a great offense and a great defense. You've got
the teams with great defenses and you've got the teams
with great offenses. The Broncos are maybe the closest thing
to being a balanced unit on either side of the ball,
and so I'm not overly scared of any of these teams.
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I think they're all gettable in one way or another.
Like the Patriots defense has been terrible against the run
for a month and a half. Now they're gettable through
the air. You just got to hope to either limit
their offense or outscore them. And I think the Broncos
defense can limit that offense. It's only in the Super
Bowl where I think the Broncos could be running up
against a team like the Seahawks or Rams or even
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the forty nine ers, where they present so many problems
on either side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think Buffalo and Houston I would lump them in
those categories.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I think they do.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And the other thing about Houston, he is not just
the CJ's playing a lot better. So they discovered they've
got Jawar Jordan too. The runhocks they've been on Nick
Chubb and Woody Marks all year, A Juar Jordan, who's
averaging five yards per carry in the three games that
they've discovered that they actually have him has really kind
of given them some explosives out of that backfield. He's
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average sixty three point three yards per game. On thirteen
attempts a game. Then he catches the ball out of
the backfield too, but he's having him back there has
given a spark to that backfield that it did not
have with Nick Chubb and Wood.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He marks it has. But still I think that offense
is a little underwhelming. You know, you get the two
quick touchdowns against the Chargers this past week, but then
after that, their offense really struggled to move the ball,
either passing or running the football. I think it's just
all the AFC teams has a big glaring flower or two.
I prefer the Broncos questions honestly to a lot of
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the rest of the AFC, because I think you're getting
Bonix's best play right now.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think that'd be one of the big question marks.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But since the mini bye, he's i think third of
the AFC playoff quarterbacks and EPA per dropbacks, so he's
holding his own.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And then I think, you know, the run game.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
If you get Dobbins back for the AFC Championship game,
that's at least half the sample side.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'd feel a little bit better about that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
If the defense can find any you know, emblance of
what they were doing early on in the season. I
think the Broncos are are clearly the best team in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I know, my biggest question mark is the Bills, you know,
and and and what they agree what they ultimately are.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Of course, James Cook is a is a unit. That
dude is a is a.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
One man wrecking crew, and you let him get free
and and whatever. Josh Allen doesn't have to be the
NFL MVP caliber traditional quarterback in terms of slinging it
all over the yard. When you've got somebody like Cook
and then Alan helps Cook because of his legs, it
opens up additional rushing lanes for Cook, who just needs
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a little bit to go.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
My question.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I guess about the Bills is you know, outside of
Khalis Shakir, who is their most reliable receiving target.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, they don't. They don't really have one. I think
that's where you can get after them. But again, they
want to run the ball at you and attack you
that way. Now, I think the Broncos run defense has
been a little underrated, you know, talking about this stretch
where the defense has been regressing, it's really the past
defense that's regressed. The run defense has been nailed up
yelp for a while. Even if you know there's a
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moment here or there with like Travis Etim, the run
defense as a whole has still been pretty strong.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I weirdly feel okay about that.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I'd feel it a lot better about it if they
do meet up in the AFC Championship and you do
have Dobbins back, just because I think the Achilles heel
of that Bills unit right now is you can run
on them. You can really run the ball on them.
That defense is built that way. It's a Tampa two defenses.
If you can run on them, you can be and
the D line's gettable. But I can you run on
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them with R. J. Harvey for one hundred and fifty
yards that I doubt the Bills want you to try
and spread it out and pass the ball on them.
When they get into lighter personnel, then they do look
like a really good defense, but they struggle to stop
the run. I just wonder if the Broncos in their
current state could exploit that to the level they'd have to, and.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
If they have the patience to do it given the
also necessary. You know, you look at this thing and
we're going to finish it right now. Bo Nicks is
tied for the lead and most dropbacks and most passing
attempts in the NFL with Dak Prescott. That is not
a recipe for I mean, I understand where we're at,
but that's not the recipe for success in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
No, And it's one thing I think for that to
be where it is at season's end, I think it's
inexcusable that it was there. They were at least in
a similar ballpark like after Week ten. The first ten
weeks of this season, BO was rough and JK Dobbins
was the leading force on this offense. I don't think
anyone would disagree that this was a run first offense
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up until JK. Dobbins exited the picture. Coincidentally, that happened
to be when bo Nick started to turn it on too,
getting that extra break with the mini buy to work
on some things. But that's like, that's what you've got
right now with Bo. But you still shouldn't be, you know,
the most pass heavy team in the league because you
should have been a run heavy team for the first
two thirds of the season.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, some one four not so much afraid of the Patriots,
but would just be pissed if we lost them, and
how that would feed into the Drake May versus bo
Nick's lower Hey, you know what I'm here for that.
I mean, you know we had the Brady versus Manning stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Why not? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And you know Drake May is gonna win an MVP.
He might stack up more individual wards win MVP this year.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I guess I'm Stafford interesting. I'm still rolling with with May.
But yeah, either way, W'll get a top two finish
this year. I'll take the team accomplishments that Brady earned
over the individual accomplishments of Manning and I think the
five MVPs something like.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That, he said, too.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
A football fan of all the Broncos because I'm in Denver.
I also like the chief Sauce, like the Chargers, like
multiple teams in the NFL. Screw anybody who says you
can't vote for another team and be a Broncos fan.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well I don't. I don't vote for anything.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I know what the Broncos to win because I'm being
successful makes my job more fun.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But I don't. I'm a football fan, not a not
a fan of it. Like I didn't grow up as
a fan of a team.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I grew up with a fan of the sport, and
then I had players I liked or coaches I liked,
And now I mean, I'm pretty obviously and I root
for my friends that are coaches.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, and I think everybody knows some of the
who those are. But I don't like, I don't have
a team.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I want the Broncos to win because it makes my
job a lot easier and make it makes more fun.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
But I'm a fan of the sport.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, same, I you know, Bronco's doing well makes our
lives a whole lot easier, So I like that to
to happy as much as possible. But yeah, I tend
to just gravitate to whatever story or team is exciting
me in the moment, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, NFL s expect we come back. I can reach
out to see if Danny can Almos to come on
the program. We've had him on in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, that's always I'd be done to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is there a reason to like, is there a specific
reason to have him on or I don't know. Okay,
well we'll see. I'll see if we can have them on.
It's been a few years, like Ryan and I had
him on back when Ryan and I were doing BCTs.
That's been what three or four years? I guess that's
been a while. Let's get the NFL SIXPEC. It's time
for the NFL six the last year insight and inside
(16:01):
information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The top SIXFL headlines.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
What Troy Aikman is now part of the Miami Dolphins
GM search committee as they look for their next GM.
How do you think this impact this will impact their search?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And do you think this is a good.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Move to involve Troy Aikman in the decision making process.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I think bringing in, you know, outside voices can help.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I certainly think that there's especially if.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You're not a football guy, you know, you've got to
hire a general manager. You gotta hire somebody to be
in charge of your football operations. Maybe bringing in somebody
who's betaf who's a high level former.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Player, was around great coaching and Jim Johnson.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You know, I think having that all is And Troy,
even though he's air quotes just an announcer, now every
week he's going to pre production meetings, talking to general
managers around the league, all that kind of stuff. You
kind of get a sense of what successful general managers
are saying and what guys that are floundering are saying.
Then it gives you the opportunity in those interview rooms
(17:12):
to inject that into the conversation or maybe ask questions
that Steven Ross wouldn't even think to ask. So I
think it's a good thing that he's on that. I
think that's good on Steven Ross. I if I were
Steven Ross, I would also have some coaches and general
managers former.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Guys in that room too to maybe maybe help with that.
And there are certainly guys that he could bring in
that he knows, you know, they could do that. End
of the day, I think it's a net positive. It's
not this isn't like.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
A permit position with the with the Dolphins or anything.
He's just there to advise in the search.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And I remember four months ago when there was a
lot of hubbub about Tom Brady having access to these,
you know, different team facilities, all these these pre show
meetings and whatnot where you're you're interviewing the different players
and coaches and maybe as a result of that having
a leg up on other organizations. As the Raiders owner
(18:01):
and he might know who the best up and coming
GM or head coach candidates are. Well, if that's a
competitive advantage for Tom Brady, you'd figure it's also one
for Preignan, who's been doing this for a whole lot
longer and has more connections, right.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
You know, the Broncos had John Elway in on the
you know, the search for his successor. They had Elway
in on the search for head coach and stuff like that.
You know there are I do believe that having additional
voices and that you don't want too many, but having
a few.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Extra voices in the room could help challenge you on
some things I think is generally a good thing.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Who on that note, this past week, Jay Glazer reported
that the Falcons could be interested in giving Matt Ryan
a major front office role within the organization. How likely
do you think it is that the Falcons will actually
hire Ryan and if so, what would that role look
like in your opinion? And do you think John Elway's
(18:54):
success in Denver is it all a motivator for some
of these teams turning to franchise legends? Of course Egman
didn't play in Miami, but you've gotten that Ryan with
the Falcons and Tony Biselli, Colorado native, has had a
huge role and the Jaguars turnaround at least in that
front office. In P's their only retired number in franchise history.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, well, let's let's start with it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I would say that a lot of organizations are turning
to great football players and bringing them in. Luke Keikley,
you know, is another one, not a quarterback, but they
probably a lot of guys are are turning the great
players and and doing that kind of stuff and bringing
those kinds of those kinds of guys in. I will
say that in Atlanta's case, you've got a guy and
(19:41):
Terry Fontenaute, who basically came up under Sean Payton. He'd
been with the New Orleans Saints since two thousand and
three as a scout, but he was the director of
Pro Scouting under Sean Payton and the assistant GM and
VP of Pro person elit or Sean Payton.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And I would suggest that I.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I would say that's probably an area of Sean Payton's
that's a weakness. I think Sean Payton's personnel decisions, by
and large, over the course of his career have not
always been very good. I think having him in there
with George Peyton, I think helps him out quite a bit,
especially here in Denver. We'll see long term what that
looks like, but this defense was a George Peyton build.
The offense, which is still a work in progress, will see.
(20:21):
But I think that there were some personnel issues in
New Orleans at times, and paying of guys too much
that cost you in other areas that hurt out. Terry
Fouteau came up under Sean Payton and Nicki Loomis, and
you know, I don't think he's been particularly effective there.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
In Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I think some of the same issues are rearing their
head there, and which is why I was fascinating that
Sean Payton had that troll tweet under the NFL thing,
because Terry Founta was a guy he knew his whole career.
He was a Saint his whole career before he was
a Falcon. Matt Ryan will add something to that room.
How much remains to be seen, whether he's good at it,
(20:59):
whether he's bad at it, whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
He is going to be in that room. I do
believe we'll see there.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
There's they're trying to keep him in the booth with
a bump and his pay or whatever. But I think
he I think he's itching to get into that other
aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I think i'd be fascinating to watch. I like seeing
more guys.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Do this, and you know what, if that's gonna get
Ryan out of the booth, I would love to see
the Cowboys start making a bid.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
For Tony Roman only were almost so much.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It was funny because when he was doing the predicting
plays thing, and everybody was like going gaga over it,
and I'm like, this is easy.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Watch I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And you could sit there and Nick and I did
on the air where I was predicting a couple of
the plays. You know, I'm like, this is not that hard.
If you've ever played football, it's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You can see him lined up, you.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
More or less know about eighty percent of the time,
you kind of know, you know more or less what's
coming here. And so Nick and I would alternate plays
and do the thing like it's not it's not that
difficult to do. You're gonna be wrong on some but
it's not that difficult. And then and then Tony, after
he got paid, kind of quit doing that, which was
the thing that was making everybody go gaga.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I wasn't like he was providing high level analysis of anything.
He's just the play.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Predicting was sort of the fun of it. I don't
Tony feels like he's been mailed at in since he
got paid.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I think he was fresh out of the league and
had his finger on the pulse of everything that was
going on, and so when he got right in the booth,
it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And I don't think he thinks the work. I don't
think exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't think he's been diligent enough in his preparation
to where his finger is still on the pulse without
him being an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like when he went straight from being a starting NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Quarterback to the booth, he had all the reps in
the film room and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, to get back to the original question.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Matt Ryan, I believe he's gonna get like a President
of Football Ops title.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
He'll be like a de facto general manager, but he'll
get the.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
President of Football Ops and he'll be aligning the infrastructure
to make that organization better.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Three perfectly setting me up here talking about another President
of Football Ops and some front office restructuring. The Titans
are continuing their coaching search and they've announced a restructuring
of their front office in the.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Middle of it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Since the latest chapter currently at least in a long
standing power struggle that dates back to at least the
Rayble years, Mike Borganzi, their GM, is now taking over
control of the fifty three man roster, which he didn't
have until now. He's also taking over control of the
coaching search from the President of Football Ops Chad Brinker,
(23:25):
who is controlling both of those things along with a
myriad of other things and seemingly helped push ran Carthin
out of that.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Building in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Will this be the end the resolution of that power
struggle in Tennessee with Mike Burgonzi becoming the GM and
having all that control over the roster or is this
just the latest chapter of dysfunction for the Tennessee Titans. Also,
who's going to be their next head coach? Well, let's
start with the dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
A lot of that came because Chad Brinker and ran
Carthin were button heads and it really wasn't clearly delineated
what the responsibilities were for either one. Brinker kind of
ran an end around Carthon and to the ownership and
got him removed, and then you bringing Mike Borgonzi.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well, they didn't clear up.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
The division of responsibilities, and so finally Mike Borganzi and
Chad Brinker had had to sit down and like, all right,
we need to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
As to who's doing what.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And so basically, Borgonzi's going to be more of a
traditional general manager and charge the ninety man, in charge
the fifty three, those kinds of things, where Brinker is
going to be more of the I'm going to handle
all the other all the off field type stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'll handle analytics, I'll handle.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
All the you know, all the other departments that go
into this, and then we'll funnel them through and we'll
each independently report to ownership. And so I think it will.
I think that part of it is settled now. I'm
not a big Chad Breaker fan. I think he's a snake.
But whatever, if he and Borganzi are working, you know,
he's not my boss, don't have to worry about it.
But he and Borganzi found a way to work together,
so be it. Borgonzi, for his part, wants some different
(25:06):
guys than Chad Brinker wants. In terms of the next
head coach of the Titans, Brinker wants Jeff Hafley, who's
the defensive coordinator to the Packers. Mike Borganzi is a
bigger fan of bringing in Matt Naggie or Mike Kafka,
who he's worked with before, and I think both Naggi
and Kafka could be brought in.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
By the way, there's a there's a scenario where both
those guys are probably.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
They are going to interview Vance Joseph Mike McCarthy, Arthur
Smith or some guys that ownership wants them to interview.
But there was a little bit of a Headbut in
terms of who's gonna be hiring the coach, it is
now Borganzi's search to run Breaker can do input, but
it is Borganzhi's head coaching search or.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Sean McVay has said that the Rams will play their
starters this week, regardless of the minimal seeding implications at play.
There's a chance that by the time the Rams kick off,
it's all been sorted out. Even this comes as a
major zag to his past handlings of these situations, where
he sat starters even with definitive seating implications on the line.
(26:10):
What do you make of this switch up from Sean McVay,
especially as so much of the league like Jim Harbaugh,
it starts copying his old strategy of sitting starters.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Well, okay, for Harbaugh, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Harbor would not be sitting guys if they they don't
care about the seating.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
They're fine with whomever. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
They do believe all the home teams are beatable, and
they would rather not tip their hand to Denver, a
team they could play in a couple of weeks anyway.
So it winds up being a scenario where they just
bring out the backups and go from there.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Plus they get healthy to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
As far as Sean McVey goes, he has rested guys
and it has resulted in some rust in the playoffs,
and I think he sort of feels like that there's
a continuity here that these guys are kind of getting
to their best football and they and they're playing.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So I think he wants to just continue that as
it were.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think he's the resting and it hasn't really worked,
It hasn't done anything. What are you gonna do resting
Matt Stafford at this point, they have his back tightened
up from having two weeks off.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I mean, you know, so at.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
This point, I think you just you go out there
to play a game and go from there.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Five Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy is set to return for
the Minnesota Vikings after a couple of weeks out of
the lineup.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
What do you think the Vikings will do.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
At the quarterback position this offseason getting.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Ready for next year?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And do you think there's any potential they move on
from JJ McCarthy this offseason and making someone else's developmental problem. No,
JJ McCarthy will be back in Minnesota next year, but
they will bring in a mid tier veteran that'll push him.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You're not going.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
To start this next season with Carson Wentz and Max
Brosmer is the only potential guys that can move him.
I imagine there'll be a reclamation project. I'm not saying
necessarily to a but you know it'll be a reclamation
project type guy that has starting experience that can push
JJ just a little bit and go from there.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So they will bring somebody in. Six.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Last one here after this week's college football quarter finals
four teams have punched their ticket to the semifinals. That's
number one Indiana and they'll face number five Oregon. On
the other end of the bracket, you have number six
Ole Miss getting ready to square off with number ten Miami.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Ben Who will win it?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
All of these final four teams and what do you
make of the lower seeds recent success in these last
two seasons under the new format. We've seen a lot
of these teams with five weeks fail early on, and
a lot of the five, six, seven.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Eight seeds performed very well.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean, just because they're seeded somewhere doesn't necessarily
mean the seeding people got it right.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
You know, I think that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think there's something to a continuity and not having
like a month off. You know, you've seen some of
these teams look rusty that have been off, and that's
something that's plagued college football for a while.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
This isn't new as far as the rest of it goes.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You know, I thought the final four was going to
wind up being UH, Texas Tech, Indiana, Ohio State, and
Old Miss. So I'm gonna go with the teams that
I picked, and I'll say Old miss in Indiana in
the finals Miami, though, they surprised me.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
They played really well. I had an eyebrow open for that.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
With the Oregon thing, it was whatever Texas Tech's offense
didn't show up. If their offense has shown up at
game would have been if the game wasn't as far
apart as the number, you know, suggested they're that twenty
three nothing that you just had Texas Tech committing turnovers
all over the place. That offense was was horrible. They've
got to go out and get a quarterback through the
transfer portal, and I think they've got their eye on
the kid from Cincinnati. They can afford them, all right,
(29:44):
they're paying so much money to it's but that's the
modern you know, without the money's above board.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know, the Dick Stabans in the world don't have
an advantage. Was that out loud? My fad Broncos Country
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