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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Not about those country tonight. That's been all right.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Nickperry's in the Hall of Fame, or Steve Atwater.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Big has some energy up in this thing, man, Grant
Smith's beard, everybody's here, just say, I think beard gives
me like no other thing.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's glorious. I wish I could grow facial air like that.
You can.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I really can't weeping over this like somebody's coming, this coming,
Uh huh, this is like a month's worth of gross.
This is not happening.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Damn well, at least you did not like me and
look like a homeless man right now.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I need to turn this thing.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Out homeless and or every other person on the mountains
in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
That's fair. Yes, can't any warm yesterday to Colorado.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Look other than driving a Forerunner or a super rule.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Grant Smith could literally be a model for Colorado.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Man.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
That's just you know what if the state of Colorado
had a cereal when they call it Colorado crunch right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
On right on the cover with the gorollapoon. He reach
out to me with those endorsement off so they.
Speaker 7 (00:55):
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
It could taste like cardboard, will we will, so we
will ship it.
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Speaker 1 (01:21):
I believe there's a new episode out, is there not?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
There is kicking off year five like we do every
year with my brother A. J. Smith, And if you're
a crier, get your tissues ready because it's an emotional
journey and it's a fun one.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Did you say brothers AJ Smith? That's right, like the
general manager, Yes, but not a general manager. He's a
general manager of a construction company. Okay, so.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
You know, really really quickly. A. J. Smith was one
of the reasons I ended up in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh yeah, yes, because he was Yeah, he was there
for us there. Yeah, I know. I'll bet you a
coach PAGs have some stories because he was Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
You know, what's tags over the weekend, So big shout
out to the Commanders for winning their their game.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know this past weekend, first.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Time rookie quarterbacks won on the road since Russell.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Wilson didn't yes to open their first playoff camp. So
how about that.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
There you come an organization that hadn't been to the
playoffs in a while, rookie gets them to the playoffs,
hire the right coach, and they went they won a
playoff game.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, that's funny. How that works? Wow? How this works?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I was all I was doing Victory Laft yesterday with
with seekers in here, because these guys were all argued
with it. D you want to just stick back when
we were we had to hire a hacket And they're like.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You want to Dan Quinn, that don't nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
A retread, You don't want a fresh show, offensive mind?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well you got that fresh show offensive mind. You know
what I was even talking about, You know about that
same thing.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
With the guys on the sports you and I was saying, well,
when you look at the fact of what happened with
the Dallas Cowboys getting rid of Mike McCarthy, and I
was like, okay, well, if Jerry wanted to do that,
he could have did it. A year before and put
dan Quinn in situation. And I know Dave said that
he didn't think that the Cowboys defense played.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That well to even Warren dan Quinn to get the job.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Now we know what happened in the playoffs losing to
the Packers, but I was like, no, And in that year,
I think it was twenty twenty three, they were tops
in most of the defensive statistical category.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
They were, and that defense was held together by Michael
Parson's duct tape and dan Quinn.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
We saw what.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Happened when my Zimmer took over and that thing fell
through the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And my whole point was, if Jerry had made the move.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
To put dan Quinn in the position at that particular point,
we could see the Dallas Cowboys kind of getting the
same type of winning that we see with the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Maybe it would have been who would have been seen them?
I mean that.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Because Brian was with Quinn and with the Seattle Seahawks time,
I'm not mistaken, so they had a relationship with the
whole point was, well, Ben just said, coaching is everything,
and you have this right.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Well, you gotta have the Jimmies and Joel's but you
gotta the Martin crew, of course, but you got to
have that coach that can motivate and get the most
out of those players.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's important, that's valuable.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I look at yeah, I look at this Commander's team
and what they've done as an absolute success story.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
They've they've changed it. Car.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
They were a laughing stock franchise, Washington Debate, laughing stock franchise.
They get rid of the ownership, They get the right
ownership in there, they get the right general manager in there,
Nana Peters, they get the right coach in there, they
get the right quarterback in there, and man, they're crazy
off to the races. They were a twenty year joke
and they turn it around in one season.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How do they do that quickly? Especially with a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
My dude, Adam Peters right sitting up there.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Putting the right pieces and plays.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
And granted they're still their defense is still trying to
come along because they had some injuries, but it goes
back to having the right people in plays with the
vision said Okay, well these are the type of players
that we need to go out there and compete. But
also having a guy like jayde Davis who I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Obviously the rookie of the year.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
That was the part that really changed a lot up
for them was the player of the quarterback, which is
why I'm so optimistic about the future of the Denver
Broncos based on what we saw from bow Nicks in
year one.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You know, I'm hoping, so I want to see for me,
you know, at least where the floor is. You know
that he's a serviceable starter in this league. I want
to see now what happens when defenses get defensive coordinators
get a You're tape and get an off season to
study it, kind of pick him a pick his game
apart and see how to defend him. And I want
to see how they defend him, and I want to
see how he bounces back against that next year.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We've seen quarterbacks take that a step back. In year two,
we saw CJ. Stroud. Everybodys compared to CJ.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Stroud to Pat Mahomes, and then they turned around this
year and hadn't been all that great. Now the playoff game,
he looked like he came alive in the quick game,
especially but against the Chargers. But you know, it really
is the life of a quarterback in the NFL really
is about coming into the league, everybody getting intel on you,
and how you CounterPunch that.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, but how do how do the great quarterbacks do that? Though?
How do they? You know, how they able to overcome what.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The coaches are seeing on film, what the coaches are
drawing up against them that second year?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How do they? How did the great quarterbacks do it?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Understanding what what's being thrown at you, and how do
and what the CounterPunch is to that?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Well, okay, that's part of it. Bit so there's no
perfect defense. Well, there's no perfect defense. But the idea
is that those quarterbacks that you're you're referencing, there's something
special and unique about those guys, and when it pertains
to the scheme that they're in, I would like to
think that they have a lot to do with the
scheme and how it was drawn up and being able
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to go and say, okay, well here's what I like,
here's what I don't like, and the office of coordinator realizing, okay,
well you're trying to merge two frames of thought, Well
the OC wants to do and what the player wants
to do as well?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
For me, I always say, well, you want.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
To acquiesce a little to that quarterback because.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
At the end of the day, you're not on the
field as the OC.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, the stuff that you draw draw up me not
fit that particular player. So a lot of those players
have the ability to call plays of the own.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Just just think about well, communicate with the with the
with with those run plays that they.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Both that best that guy. Think about Brady, think about Breeze,
think about Peyton Manning. Now, of all the three quarterbacks
that gave you all Hall of Fame quarterbacks, all considered
to be cerebral quarterbacks, there's only one of those quarterbacks
I would trust to call their own plays.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's right. He would be the only one I would try.
The only one drew his own numbers.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Well, listen, I'm not saying that Drew cannot do it.
I'm saying the only one that I would personally trust
to be able.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
To call because he knows person He knows Peyton personally,
and he knows.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We're missing the question we should be asking her Nick,
what what the the pey Man and Christmas card list? What? What
what did the cars look like this year? I'm just
I can't really describe it right now. I'm doing the black. Well,
let's be telling honest, right.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
I mean, yes, I got a chance to know Payton
and compete against him, but it is in competing against
all three quarterbacks over my career. Once again, I think
he is one of those guys that you would trust.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
He was the offensive coordinator on the field, Yes, like
Adam gaatesman here.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I mean, he was just there with the title, but
we all knew who was calling the plane.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He's only honest man, right, And that's when it comes
to plug in.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
The was a.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But that's what it's about.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
It's about cutting your quarterback loose, allowing them to play
freely and not just But.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
How many times did you do that with a rookie quarterback? Well, no,
you didn't even do it with Peyton Manning. You don't
do with a rookie ye abou Jaye Naniels, Right.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, but Jaden's got a real cerebral understanding and he
understands He understands when to take off with the football too.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And the one thing I will say about that, man.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
The Commanders they got whatever the clutch gene is, they've got.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Their last five games have.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Been decided, you know, in the last thirty seconds. Oh By,
you got the Hail Mary play against the Bears earlier
in the season.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Whatever that is.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That they take that that tbow gene, that that clutch
last second gene.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Jay Daniels got a little bit of that.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Okay, So you got to go back to Cliff Kingsbury
and look at the quarterbacks Cliff Kingsbury has had, I mean,
Davis Webb, the Broncos quarterback coaching at once by the time,
played at Texas Tech, right, and if I'm not mistaken,
I think Cliff Kingsbury was there. So you think about
all the quarterbacks that are currently playing in the NFL
that have played for him, and you got to think
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in those situations you want.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
A certain amount of structure for your quarterback.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Well, when the game is on the line and you
need plays, you got to play outside of the structure,
and that means allowing that quarterback to lean on his
natural abilities. Now I'm not saying that you want your
quarterback to run all the time, but what we saw
in these closing games with jayde Daniels, he made magic
by doing just like well, you know, when I'm looking
down the field and going to my progressions, it's not
(10:13):
open guess what I'm gonna do down that movie.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm the captain now, Yes, I'm the checkdown. Yes. And
remember at.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
The beginning of the season, we didn't really see Bo
being given that that opportunity, and then it just seemed
as like Bo just said, screw it, I'm just gonna
take it. Look at the Seattle game where he led
the team in rushing. Look at when that first drive
against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
What did he do? He decided, you know what is there,
I'm gonna take it. Yeah, that's what the dow quarterback
you do too. I'm just glad you guys. Yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I'm just glad you guys would come around in quarterbacks
running the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
We we started this season all for you guys to
laughing to me.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Here, I said, that's play of working too.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I was gonna I was gonna let your phone up
to I had like I had like eight of them.
I was just gonna keep firing the clips on in there.
And this is what Ben's missing is Okay.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
We didn't say anything about a running quarterback or a
run game within itself. The idea was that wanting more
balanced we know your we know your mental mind completely run.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
The ball the Italiens. Oh, I know that's what you're doing. Yes,
that's his mentality. But but I'm like, man, run the ball.
I'm gonna run till you make me throw it.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Hey s see, I want I want a complimentary all.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
If you can.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
That's what I'm saying, though, Like, there's there's nothing more
to you pust late on defense.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, there's nothing more to moralize.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
He's there is nothing more psychologically devastating.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It just keeps running the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And what do you say your teammates in huddle when
we can kick he bro you know that that is
the plan for Pride.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
It is really demoralized when you know a team comes
out there with the two tight ends and they're in
a running formation.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know it, and they still run and it's still effective.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
They come out a single back and they pop you
for eight to pop and then you see, what are
you gonna do? Like, there's there's nothing more psychologically devastating.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Let's see for you, Ben, So you bet your best
suited for come from the other side of it. You
from your best suited for Air Force, Army, Navy, you
be a head coached there, but all.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They do is run the ball. Don't put me at Iowa.
Put me at Iowa. With all the course, I can
tell you.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Those dudes they think they're tough and they're physical.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yes, so I can understand it. I can understand it.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
I don't coach Forest football. None of his wide receivers
wide receivers of tight ends, don't splitting tight ends out.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That's what was I saying.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
What Sharp would tell you that, Hey man, I'm not
a I'm not a good blocker.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I just get in the way. That was his philosophy.
He became a good blocker. Well running to find that
Steve like a like a good blocker. What is that? Yeah,
I mean he did his job. He blocked the guy
who needs to be blocking. Did he had the bancake
that wasn't necessarily That's what I'm saying. That's what he
told me. He said, Look, man, I'm not trying to
do all that stuff. You know you're not doing that.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
He's not trying to be like Mark Mvarro, just kind
of driving guys five yards off the ball right to
see for those listeners. You know, if you're young, you
don't know who Mark Mvaro is.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yes, yes, yeah, man, I'd be splitting Gronk out wide
like that would be my wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That all heavy. Who's going to cover him? And everyone's
big restay you got him, know you got to that time.
Everybody's trying to get David Boston off the royd so
you can swim back guy and run now, buddy, geez,
I'm just saying, there's no course like this tight end.
That's the same man.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, it's a battery gram back there. So you know,
I for me when I'm looking at this and in
a way I'm looking at to pull this back to.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The playoff game.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
There was nothing more psychologically devastating that drive where Buffalo
just kept running the ball down extended drives going down
the field, just one right after the other, and you
already knew. I mean you could. You could see it
in the first half. I'm like, man, we're lucky to
be like this is this is bad. But we're still
in this thing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And then they open up the next drive just put
to just quit playing with the food and went to
it and I'm like, okay, this is but.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
You know when it when it when it gets down
to the nitty gritty, if you can't stop the run.
It's gonna be difficult to win deep into the Playoffsky
Test you, yes.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But that but that's what this part of the season
is about, right, It's about running the ball and being
able to stopping one. Every team that won during wild
Card weekend on said and Sunday, they dominated time of
possession and they dominated run.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's like Derek Cameron run for one eighty six. Who
could you imagine that? Steve what Lowland one guy? Hold on,
hold on? That was a good It was not like
a joke defense. That was the Steelers and you know
and you know what you're getting it.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Yes, And the way that he's slapping Mika Fitzpatrick tow
did man, I was like, is he playing football?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And motal kombat? Man look like shank Town. Oh your
soul is mine. It's like like Nicki, you gotta go
settle this. You gotta go sit down there with your
head talks for a minute. Yes, you getting pop back
in there. Hey, it's gonna happen sometimes. But listen, is
a player. If you don't get a run over, you're
not you're not giving a job. Oh you hadn't played
long enough. Yeah, you don't have it. I mean fair,
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what did you.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You're saying like it was it was that all game
though there wasn't. This wasn't a battle. He wasn't winning
some and losing some. Derrick Henry was just taking what
he wanted.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Or even in the even in the game against Buffalo,
you you had to go into the game saying, okay,
well you wanted to stop the Bill's run game, and
that meant that you had to stop two people, James
Cook and Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And I would say, good luck with that, good.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Luck with that, because the Broncos were exposed to that
early in the season when they faced the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And yeah, the Cook is now he doesn't have a
size that Derrick Henry has. He doesn't, but he has
the quick man.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
He man.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Come on, we played against b John Robinson, We played
against the running back. Cook's a buck ninety Dereck Henry's
what listen?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
I two different bags that possessed two different skill sets
that their teams utilized really well. And when you're saying, okay,
if you were advanced, how are you trying to build
the scheme to stop both of them? Because you got
the r P O, you got the keepers that you
just had Josh Allen looking around like you found tight
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Johnson in the back of the end zone, Like who
put the time on that? How long did it take
for him that they throw?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
And you got two tight ends that are capable of
out there running passes that can block in run Handkincaid.
You know it's I mean, you had the Broncos as
the season came to a close. I mean you had
to both your starting corners were hurt. Patter Tails playing
on a spraining ankle, gutting it out through a sprained ankle.
Riley Moss came back off that knee injury wasn't quite
the same, and so Vance started switching up and what
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he was doing to try to kind of help them
out and cover for some of that stuff, and you
could just kind of see it. People had all these
people on Twitter, Oh you gotta fire Advance.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
He choked the season away and all this stuff. I'm like, bro,
do you not know what you're talking about? Stupid?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, Like you understand they changed up what they were
doing because their starting corners were at that point supposed
to be on an island and they're hurt, Like, you
had to change up everything you were doing.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's just frustrating.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
It is very frustrating to hear people say that, and
I use a little more colorful language.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, we're on the end right now. I think you
all know I mics off.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I used some colorful language. But the Broncos defense were
in a tough spot. And also to it wasn't as
a team loss because I feel as though they once
got dominated again on time of possession and the offense
they were not able to control the ball sustained drives,
which puts the defense out there against a team that's
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really talented and both of us see were right. Buffalo
was just moving the ball down methodically and like they
were playing with their food like a cat and the side.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And as a defense, as defensive players, you know how
it feels to be out on the field for a
fifteen thirteen fourteen to fifteen play.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Drive and then offense goes three and out and you
go back out there. Woo boy, yeah it, I.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Mean you're talking about drives that winy man like, Hey,
fourteen plays off, we got fourteen play seven minutes, nine plays,
six minutes, five minutes, eleven play seven minutes, thirteen plays
seven and a half minutes. Those are the kind of
drives Buffalo was doing. We'll talk about that more we
come back Frockless Country to night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Your soul is Mine's God, that bear's great. I'm a
jealous man, Grant, I'm jealous man. Five six six nine
zero is a text launch.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
He may come in, save your stuff off and with
the buzz cutter. Any any compliments I can get from
Benjamin Albright. I'm gonna take that's confidence back here.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm just saying five six six nine there's text.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I want to hear you. Guys. Thoughts on this. People
have been talking about we need the needs for next year.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Most most of the social media people be focusing on
the offensive side the ball. Keep talking about wide receiver,
which honestly, I think tight ends a bigger need wide receiver,
but talking about wide receiver, running back, tight end. But
to me, I think there are things they need to
focus on on the defensive side too. One at each
level I think you need. I think you need another safety, uh,
I think you need some some more athleticism at the
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inside backer.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And then the big one for me is the nose tackle.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You're probably gonna let DJ Jones go just because of
the cost, and he tried to fill it admirably, but
he's a little undersized for what he is.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I like the kid out of Kentucky, the on walker
six foot six.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Three hundred and forty eight pounds that runs a high
four six forty gimme six six sixty six.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Three three forty five and runs a high four six
forty gie guinea gia. Yeah, let's see what you can do.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You get that that man is tied up to two
offensive linemen ever play six six, you know, I mean
the advanced Joseph is still a defensive coordinator, which he
should be. You know, you know how he likes to
use those linebackers to shoot the gaps. Well, if you've
got John Franklin Meyer, Zach Elliman, that guy tied on
a blocker. Who who are you not double team against
thost three? Heeah, you got a double team somebody.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You get double team two of them. You can't double
team three.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
See those measurements reminded me of someone who used to
play for the Denver Broncos who is now coaching at
a collegiate level. Yeah, you know, okay, you need someone
to clog up that A B gap command that double team.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
The running back runs in there and just like there's
nothing there, there's.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Nothing, no movement. Yeah you got vice will fork occupied.
But you've seen those OUBS trucks that had why load
that exactly what you want because that makes life easier
for the linebacker. You know, the linebacker can now scrape
because that that kind of Yes, you can't get off
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and he's trying to duol block, but you can't because
the dude is, so why right, let me go? And
now that forces teams. You know, by nature you have
to run outside plays.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You cannot.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Even when you're talking about this, it's third and one
or fourth and short of goal line, your brother outwork. No.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
My favorite, by the way, my favorite photo.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
This guy is just got against the Clemson game where
you got three offensive linemen try to hold.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You back from sacking the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Here.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know if you guys can see this. It's hilarious.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Jersey then holding on deer those cartoons where you got
to stay, you know, people hanging onto the jersey for
deer life. You think he had the ball, they've got
three closing offensive lineman try to hold him back and
he's got the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Like, now, bro, you going down. That's just my favorite.
I just love that photo. I think it's it's phenomenal.
I know you guys can't see it on the radio.
Oh yeah, they can't see on the radio.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
But uh, as far as that goes, what other what
looks to be something stressing that you think to safe?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think we're all I think we're all sure because
I got through safeties in the room. So it's a
little bit biased, but well it's no, it's not biased.
Is that for me? I can only speak for myself.
I know what I know, right, and when I see
where this team has gone.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
To me because when you think about this, this team,
they've had a lineage of linebackers, running backs, safeties right
and and obviously I was very optimistic after the team
that you know, just Simon Sli. I was optimistic for PJ,
like you, trying to take advantage of the opportunity. But
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they need more competition at that position because I was saying, at.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Some point J. L.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Skinner is gonna come along and I don't know what
what the issue is, what's going on, but he hasn't
taken that next step, and I thought he was gonna
be the guy that challenged PJ. And they was gonna
make a great combination to compliment Brandon Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
But that hasn't come to fruition. So there's nothing wrong
with adding more talent to see whatever those guys did
last year, can you elevate your level play?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, it's I'm totally with you and I they do
need to any which way you slice that, they need
to add a safety. The depth there is at minimum problematic,
So you know, I think I think that's the case,
And yeah, let a rookie compete with PJ for that
of the JEB Brandon Jones was kind of a revelation
over there.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That was from the fan perspective.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
It was gonna be tough to step into the shadow
of Justin Simmons and come away smelling like a rose.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And Brandon Jones did it.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I mean absolutely, Like we didn't talk about Justin Simmons
being golf from this defense whole year.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's a good point, and Brandon Jones stepped in making
plays right from day one.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I'm just saying Justin Simmons is an all time bronco
and well we ain't talked about missing him all year.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, I would say this, I wouldn't mind if he
return he hear me, hear me out here.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Maybe I don't know what happened with.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
The situation or whatever, but I look at it from
the standpoint. If you got Simmons at free safety Brandon
Jones as your strong safety, that makes that defense more
solid because now you got two guys who are used
to making plays. And then with Justin coming back to Denver,
you do a two year deal, right, you know, and
to say, okay, listen, this is what we're gonna look
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to pay you, almost like the deal they signed with
Kareem Jackson. But you can give me nine million dollars
for two years, you know, kind of split that up.
I believe he would take it to come back to Denver.
You put him in vans some defense with the Brandon Jones,
now you're more athletic intelligence is there and the playmaking
is there.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, and you know, I don't know which obviously we
don't know which which direction they're going to go, but yeah,
I definitely would would add another safety, whether that whether
it's Justin or you know, some some new guy that
we that we draft, but that safety needs to be uh,
improved just a bit. And also I would say we
we need a one more inside linebacker.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Another inside linebacker's a fast dog up in there.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Alex Singleton's gonna be what
thirty two coming off an injury, hownis rapping guy.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Alex was got hurt that ball. He's an active an athlete.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
But you I mean again, you're talking about thirty two
year old coming off that injury that that might be
and and the money there is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I suspect he'll be back and Coy play will too.
Though Cody played well.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
He did, but he was it's not like Josie where
he was obviously athletically limited, but he's like a step
or two that's just not quite there on some of
the stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And if for what Vance wants to do, which is
have the.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Other linebacker shoot the gap while Cody's out there, you know,
moving away from the ball, I don't know that that's
the best position for him, especially with Sternat over there.
You have to make an improvement to that, to that room.
I don't know if that's a I don't know if
that's the top of the draft priority.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
If you're spending free agent dollars on that, but you
got to get somebody in there that that shows some promise.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I think, yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
You definitely have to do that because understanding where the
game is going. And I go back to what I
said earlier about looking at the teams that won games
and wild card weekend, what did they do well? Right,
They ran the ball, and they excelled at running the
ball like punishing.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And somehow it seemed like with all these Jeans people in.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
The league, they keep valuing the running back position based
on what we what we are seeing in the playoffs.
It should kind of kick everyone in and the back
end to let them know, hey, no.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
We need to fall apart.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
It's it's vital, and it's vital for your quarterback to
deny that and say, you know what, we just get
a running back. He fall up the turnip truck. No,
not every guy's created equal, and.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You need tough defenders that thrive off of that that,
Hey I want to hit somebody.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yes, you can have everybody wanting to play the past
all the time.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
See what you're describing is you got you need a
bunch of guys from the movie three hundred. They know
I'm going to run an a gup.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I might take an L but I'm gonna leave it
over for my buddy to scrape over the top make
the tackle. That's what you need.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Hey, guys willing to say, Ben, I know, since you
love to run the ball, could you find yourself being
a linebacker or safety willing to sacrifice himself for the team.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Can do what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Sacrificed answered it for me? That would be a major collision.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
And uh, you know who our expert on that is.
I mean David Bryant, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Beard Grant Smith back there classic sixt nine zeros text line.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Since I've got two safeties in the room, I figure
I ask you guys about this one. I it's it's
tough out there's hard out there for a pimp.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Brandon Jones. Uh you saw that Brandon Joel's penalty. I
mean he was trying to do the right but he
was trying. There's gotta be some latitude for guys trying
to do the right thing and you know, turn the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
NFL and then gets the incidental There's gotta be some
latitude there. No, there's no PD to defensive players. Nothing
offensive player would run and.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Grab a defensive players face mass and twist, didn't turn
helmet for the running backs.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And the players don't know anything about that. They don't.
But then you come along as a defensive player you
do it.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
And Brandon, I mean, to his credit, like you can
tell when you slow it down, especially you can tell
I was trying to do the right thing, which is
it's such a bang bang play when you can see
in slow.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Motion that a guy's are really trying to do the
right thing there and listen.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
It's hard as a defensive player, spas, especially playing safety,
you are operating from twelve to fourteen yards deep and
you have been taught to attack like an attack dog,
right and then now yeah, every single and now you
want me to forget everything that I was taught in
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my natural instinct to do certain things.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Ball is in flight, I'm tracking said ball. It's not
my fault.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
The quarterback over through the ball is one of those
cases in my book that if you go to.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Find Brandon Jones, which I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
You got fined you damn ship, well, you gotta find
John Taller because he threw it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's crazy. He threw it.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, he'll get fine for it,
because you get fined for everything.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
That's a pre game experience I ever had.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Was sitting down there on the sideline with Dick Ferguson,
Well he was heckling the uniform violation.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh my dude, I was dying. I was like, this
was the funniest. I was like, man, we gotta get
a video of this at some point because Nick was
just ha, no, oh it, socks are fine.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It's it's so many things about the game that drives
me crazy, the uniform violations.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
And this is what happened to Brandon Jones.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Obviously from a coaching standpoint, you said, well, no, you
don't want that to happen, but in certain situations like that,
things of what it is and watching social media just
kind of go off on Brandon Jones as though, well.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That one particular play calls the Broncos a game, and
I'm like, man, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
There's no way that that one particular play cause it's
just so many other things you can get to. But
because some viewed as being very egregious, oh he could
have stopped right, I mean, we can say that he
could have stopped. But until you in that situation, you're
in the drive mode.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
No you can't, man, you just it's it's hard. It's
easy to say, hard to do.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm saying the game is is much more difficult for
defensive players than offensive players.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Man? Well, first of all, offenses dictate two defenses. So
a defense is reacting to what's happening. So you're already
one second behind trying to catch up.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
On offense, I just need one thing to go right.
I need one coverage to bust, and I'm good. On defense,
you need all eleven things to go right or else
something's gonna bust.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And I'm good.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
So it's already heavily skewed for the offense any which
way you slice it.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
See it. This is one thing I've never understood.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
If a defensive player accidentally touches the offensive player's face mask, he.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Didn't grab, he just touches it, brushes it PI five
on the way past. It's a purity.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
If a defensive player early he touches an offensive player's.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Face mask, it's what it's a penalty to the offensive player.
Derek Henny's grabbing you by your face mask and twisted
and turning to the.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Ground, and.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's nothing.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I've seen plays where you get the running back with
the stiff farm you got hands to the face right
of the defender, but the defender trying to defend themselves
that grab the face MA, and you call it on
the defender, right, It's just like, no, you shouldn't call
it on the defender because when you get a defensive
lineman and that defensive lineman is past rushing gets the
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offensive lineman, his hands gets up into the face automatically,
it's hands to the face. So it's like, well, why
can't we call this evenly? Even with passing the fairss,
we still don't get it this.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Ye, they get a push and then oh yeah, that's
just part of the No, that's not fair.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I agree with you, actually though, I mean I've seen
it to be times. I've seen guys just grabbing defensive players. Know,
with my equipment thro I'm like, come on, we gotta
have we gotta have equity here, we gotta we gotta
keep it, we gotta creep it well across the board.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
We don't really do that.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Uh Well, Steve, this season overall I mean, obviously disappointing in.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
For the Denver Broncos, but we got to talk this
up as a success, right, Oh, I definitely think so.
No one really thought that the team would win. It
was what was the line, five five.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And a half games, and they more than there.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
They've done a great job. They've worked together. Uh, the
coaches that have been doing a great job with the guys,
just getting them right. And I think that, uh, this
is the really just start of something special me too.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Now we're on the draft season.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
We gotta plug those holes, all that kind of stuff.
Looking to check in with you during during draft season.
You gonna go down to the senior bullet all or
any that kind of stuff this year?
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Not sure?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Not sure yet? Okay, Well, I'll try to try to
get you down here. We'll see. I'm gonna be down there,
so we'll see. We gotta need a break.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
We'll come back, right, Michael gonna join us. There's at
the bottle of the next hour. Bottle the next hour,
all right, Broncos Country, not Kawa
Not about those country tonight. That's been all right.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Nickperry's in the Hall of Fame, or Steve Atwater.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Big has some energy up in this thing, man, Grant
Smith's beard, everybody's here, just say, I think beard gives
me like no other thing.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's glorious. I wish I could grow facial air like that.
You can.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I really can't weeping over this like somebody's coming, this coming,
Uh huh, this is like a month's worth of gross.
This is not happening.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Damn well, at least you did not like me and
look like a homeless man right now.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I need to turn this thing.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Out homeless and or every other person on the mountains
in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
That's fair. Yes, can't any warm yesterday to Colorado.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Look other than driving a Forerunner or a super rule.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Grant Smith could literally be a model for Colorado.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Man.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
That's just you know what if the state of Colorado
had a cereal when they call it Colorado crunch right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
On right on the cover with the gorollapoon. He reach
out to me with those endorsement off so they.
Speaker 7 (00:55):
Want to cook that serial left, We will make your money. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It could taste like cardboard, will we will, so we
will ship it.
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Speaker 1 (01:21):
I believe there's a new episode out, is there not?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
There is kicking off year five like we do every
year with my brother A. J. Smith, And if you're
a crier, get your tissues ready because it's an emotional
journey and it's a fun one.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Did you say brothers AJ Smith? That's right, like the
general manager, Yes, but not a general manager. He's a
general manager of a construction company. Okay, so.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
You know, really really quickly. A. J. Smith was one
of the reasons I ended up in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh yeah, yes, because he was Yeah, he was there
for us there. Yeah, I know. I'll bet you a
coach PAGs have some stories because he was Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
You know, what's tags over the weekend, So big shout
out to the Commanders for winning their their game.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know this past weekend, first.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Time rookie quarterbacks won on the road since Russell.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Wilson didn't yes to open their first playoff camp. So
how about that.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
There you come an organization that hadn't been to the
playoffs in a while, rookie gets them to the playoffs,
hire the right coach, and they went they won a
playoff game.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, that's funny. How that works? Wow? How this works?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I was all I was doing Victory Laft yesterday with
with seekers in here, because these guys were all argued
with it. D you want to just stick back when
we were we had to hire a hacket And they're like.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You want to Dan Quinn, that don't nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
A retread, You don't want a fresh show, offensive mind?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well you got that fresh show offensive mind. You know
what I was even talking about, You know about that
same thing.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
With the guys on the sports you and I was saying, well,
when you look at the fact of what happened with
the Dallas Cowboys getting rid of Mike McCarthy, and I
was like, okay, well, if Jerry wanted to do that,
he could have did it. A year before and put
dan Quinn in situation. And I know Dave said that
he didn't think that the Cowboys defense played.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That well to even Warren dan Quinn to get the job.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Now we know what happened in the playoffs losing to
the Packers, but I was like, no, And in that year,
I think it was twenty twenty three, they were tops
in most of the defensive statistical category.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
They were, and that defense was held together by Michael
Parson's duct tape and dan Quinn.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
We saw what.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Happened when my Zimmer took over and that thing fell
through the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And my whole point was, if Jerry had made the move.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
To put dan Quinn in the position at that particular point,
we could see the Dallas Cowboys kind of getting the
same type of winning that we see with the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Maybe it would have been who would have been seen them?
I mean that.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Because Brian was with Quinn and with the Seattle Seahawks time,
I'm not mistaken, so they had a relationship with the
whole point was, well, Ben just said, coaching is everything,
and you have this right.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Well, you gotta have the Jimmies and Joel's but you
gotta the Martin crew, of course, but you got to
have that coach that can motivate and get the most
out of those players.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's important, that's valuable.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I look at yeah, I look at this Commander's team
and what they've done as an absolute success story.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
They've they've changed it. Car.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
They were a laughing stock franchise, Washington Debate, laughing stock franchise.
They get rid of the ownership, They get the right
ownership in there, they get the right general manager in there,
Nana Peters, they get the right coach in there, they
get the right quarterback in there, and man, they're crazy
off to the races. They were a twenty year joke
and they turn it around in one season.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How do they do that quickly? Especially with a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
My dude, Adam Peters right sitting up there.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Putting the right pieces and plays.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
And granted they're still their defense is still trying to
come along because they had some injuries, but it goes
back to having the right people in plays with the
vision said Okay, well these are the type of players
that we need to go out there and compete. But
also having a guy like jayde Davis who I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Obviously the rookie of the year.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
That was the part that really changed a lot up
for them was the player of the quarterback, which is
why I'm so optimistic about the future of the Denver
Broncos based on what we saw from bow Nicks in
year one.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You know, I'm hoping, so I want to see for me,
you know, at least where the floor is. You know
that he's a serviceable starter in this league. I want
to see now what happens when defenses get defensive coordinators
get a You're tape and get an off season to
study it, kind of pick him a pick his game
apart and see how to defend him. And I want
to see how they defend him, and I want to
see how he bounces back against that next year.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We've seen quarterbacks take that a step back. In year two,
we saw CJ. Stroud. Everybodys compared to CJ.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Stroud to Pat Mahomes, and then they turned around this
year and hadn't been all that great. Now the playoff game,
he looked like he came alive in the quick game,
especially but against the Chargers. But you know, it really
is the life of a quarterback in the NFL really
is about coming into the league, everybody getting intel on you,
and how you CounterPunch that.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, but how do how do the great quarterbacks do that? Though?
How do they? You know, how they able to overcome what.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The coaches are seeing on film, what the coaches are
drawing up against them that second year?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How do they? How did the great quarterbacks do it?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Understanding what what's being thrown at you, and how do
and what the CounterPunch is to that?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Well, okay, that's part of it. Bit so there's no
perfect defense. Well, there's no perfect defense. But the idea
is that those quarterbacks that you're you're referencing, there's something
special and unique about those guys, and when it pertains
to the scheme that they're in, I would like to
think that they have a lot to do with the
scheme and how it was drawn up and being able
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to go and say, okay, well here's what I like,
here's what I don't like, and the office of coordinator realizing, okay,
well you're trying to merge two frames of thought, Well
the OC wants to do and what the player wants
to do as well?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
For me, I always say, well, you want.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
To acquiesce a little to that quarterback because.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
At the end of the day, you're not on the
field as the OC.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, the stuff that you draw draw up me not
fit that particular player. So a lot of those players
have the ability to call plays of the own.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Just just think about well, communicate with the with the
with with those run plays that they.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Both that best that guy. Think about Brady, think about Breeze,
think about Peyton Manning. Now, of all the three quarterbacks
that gave you all Hall of Fame quarterbacks, all considered
to be cerebral quarterbacks, there's only one of those quarterbacks
I would trust to call their own plays.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's right. He would be the only one I would try.
The only one drew his own numbers.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Well, listen, I'm not saying that Drew cannot do it.
I'm saying the only one that I would personally trust
to be able.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
To call because he knows person He knows Peyton personally,
and he knows.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We're missing the question we should be asking her Nick,
what what the the pey Man and Christmas card list? What? What
what did the cars look like this year? I'm just
I can't really describe it right now. I'm doing the black. Well,
let's be telling honest, right.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
I mean, yes, I got a chance to know Payton
and compete against him, but it is in competing against
all three quarterbacks over my career. Once again, I think
he is one of those guys that you would trust.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
He was the offensive coordinator on the field, Yes, like
Adam gaatesman here.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I mean, he was just there with the title, but
we all knew who was calling the plane.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He's only honest man, right, And that's when it comes
to plug in.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
The was a.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But that's what it's about.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
It's about cutting your quarterback loose, allowing them to play
freely and not just But.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
How many times did you do that with a rookie quarterback? Well, no,
you didn't even do it with Peyton Manning. You don't
do with a rookie ye abou Jaye Naniels, Right.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, but Jaden's got a real cerebral understanding and he
understands He understands when to take off with the football too.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And the one thing I will say about that, man.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
The Commanders they got whatever the clutch gene is, they've got.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Their last five games have.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Been decided, you know, in the last thirty seconds. Oh By,
you got the Hail Mary play against the Bears earlier
in the season.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Whatever that is.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That they take that that tbow gene, that that clutch
last second gene.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Jay Daniels got a little bit of that.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Okay, So you got to go back to Cliff Kingsbury
and look at the quarterbacks Cliff Kingsbury has had, I mean,
Davis Webb, the Broncos quarterback coaching at once by the time,
played at Texas Tech, right, and if I'm not mistaken,
I think Cliff Kingsbury was there. So you think about
all the quarterbacks that are currently playing in the NFL
that have played for him, and you got to think
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in those situations you want.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
A certain amount of structure for your quarterback.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Well, when the game is on the line and you
need plays, you got to play outside of the structure,
and that means allowing that quarterback to lean on his
natural abilities. Now I'm not saying that you want your
quarterback to run all the time, but what we saw
in these closing games with jayde Daniels, he made magic
by doing just like well, you know, when I'm looking
down the field and going to my progressions, it's not
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open guess what I'm gonna do down that movie.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm the captain now, Yes, I'm the checkdown. Yes. And
remember at.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
The beginning of the season, we didn't really see Bo
being given that that opportunity, and then it just seemed
as like Bo just said, screw it, I'm just gonna
take it. Look at the Seattle game where he led
the team in rushing. Look at when that first drive
against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
What did he do? He decided, you know what is there,
I'm gonna take it. Yeah, that's what the dow quarterback
you do too. I'm just glad you guys. Yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I'm just glad you guys would come around in quarterbacks
running the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
We we started this season all for you guys to
laughing to me.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Here, I said, that's play of working too.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I was gonna I was gonna let your phone up
to I had like I had like eight of them.
I was just gonna keep firing the clips on in there.
And this is what Ben's missing is Okay.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
We didn't say anything about a running quarterback or a
run game within itself. The idea was that wanting more
balanced we know your we know your mental mind completely run.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
The ball the Italiens. Oh, I know that's what you're doing. Yes,
that's his mentality. But but I'm like, man, run the ball.
I'm gonna run till you make me throw it.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Hey s see, I want I want a complimentary all.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
If you can.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
That's what I'm saying, though, Like, there's there's nothing more
to you pust late on defense.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, there's nothing more to moralize.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
He's there is nothing more psychologically devastating.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It just keeps running the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And what do you say your teammates in huddle when
we can kick he bro you know that that is
the plan for Pride.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
It is really demoralized when you know a team comes
out there with the two tight ends and they're in
a running formation.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know it, and they still run and it's still effective.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
They come out a single back and they pop you
for eight to pop and then you see, what are
you gonna do? Like, there's there's nothing more psychologically devastating.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Let's see for you, Ben, So you bet your best
suited for come from the other side of it. You
from your best suited for Air Force, Army, Navy, you
be a head coached there, but all.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They do is run the ball. Don't put me at Iowa.
Put me at Iowa. With all the course, I can
tell you.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Those dudes they think they're tough and they're physical.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yes, so I can understand it. I can understand it.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
I don't coach Forest football. None of his wide receivers
wide receivers of tight ends, don't splitting tight ends out.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That's what was I saying.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
What Sharp would tell you that, Hey man, I'm not
a I'm not a good blocker.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I just get in the way. That was his philosophy.
He became a good blocker. Well running to find that
Steve like a like a good blocker. What is that? Yeah,
I mean he did his job. He blocked the guy
who needs to be blocking. Did he had the bancake
that wasn't necessarily That's what I'm saying. That's what he
told me. He said, Look, man, I'm not trying to
do all that stuff. You know you're not doing that.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
He's not trying to be like Mark Mvarro, just kind
of driving guys five yards off the ball right to
see for those listeners. You know, if you're young, you
don't know who Mark Mvaro is.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yes, yes, yeah, man, I'd be splitting Gronk out wide
like that would be my wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That all heavy. Who's going to cover him? And everyone's
big restay you got him, know you got to that time.
Everybody's trying to get David Boston off the royd so
you can swim back guy and run now, buddy, geez,
I'm just saying, there's no course like this tight end.
That's the same man.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, it's a battery gram back there. So you know,
I for me when I'm looking at this and in
a way I'm looking at to pull this back to.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The playoff game.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
There was nothing more psychologically devastating that drive where Buffalo
just kept running the ball down extended drives going down
the field, just one right after the other, and you
already knew. I mean you could. You could see it
in the first half. I'm like, man, we're lucky to
be like this is this is bad. But we're still
in this thing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And then they open up the next drive just put
to just quit playing with the food and went to
it and I'm like, okay, this is but.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
You know when it when it when it gets down
to the nitty gritty, if you can't stop the run.
It's gonna be difficult to win deep into the Playoffsky
Test you, yes.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But that but that's what this part of the season
is about, right, It's about running the ball and being
able to stopping one. Every team that won during wild
Card weekend on said and Sunday, they dominated time of
possession and they dominated run.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's like Derek Cameron run for one eighty six. Who
could you imagine that? Steve what Lowland one guy? Hold on,
hold on? That was a good It was not like
a joke defense. That was the Steelers and you know
and you know what you're getting it.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Yes, And the way that he's slapping Mika Fitzpatrick tow
did man, I was like, is he playing football?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And motal kombat? Man look like shank Town. Oh your
soul is mine. It's like like Nicki, you gotta go
settle this. You gotta go sit down there with your
head talks for a minute. Yes, you getting pop back
in there. Hey, it's gonna happen sometimes. But listen, is
a player. If you don't get a run over, you're
not you're not giving a job. Oh you hadn't played
long enough. Yeah, you don't have it. I mean fair,
(15:45):
what did you.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You're saying like it was it was that all game
though there wasn't. This wasn't a battle. He wasn't winning
some and losing some. Derrick Henry was just taking what
he wanted.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Or even in the even in the game against Buffalo,
you you had to go into the game saying, okay,
well you wanted to stop the Bill's run game, and
that meant that you had to stop two people, James
Cook and Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And I would say, good luck with that, good.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Luck with that, because the Broncos were exposed to that
early in the season when they faced the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And yeah, the Cook is now he doesn't have a
size that Derrick Henry has. He doesn't, but he has
the quick man.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
He man.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Come on, we played against b John Robinson, We played
against the running back. Cook's a buck ninety Dereck Henry's
what listen?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
I two different bags that possessed two different skill sets
that their teams utilized really well. And when you're saying, okay,
if you were advanced, how are you trying to build
the scheme to stop both of them? Because you got
the r P O, you got the keepers that you
just had Josh Allen looking around like you found tight
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Johnson in the back of the end zone, Like who
put the time on that? How long did it take
for him that they throw?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
And you got two tight ends that are capable of
out there running passes that can block in run Handkincaid.
You know it's I mean, you had the Broncos as
the season came to a close. I mean you had
to both your starting corners were hurt. Patter Tails playing
on a spraining ankle, gutting it out through a sprained ankle.
Riley Moss came back off that knee injury wasn't quite
the same, and so Vance started switching up and what
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he was doing to try to kind of help them
out and cover for some of that stuff, and you
could just kind of see it. People had all these
people on Twitter, Oh you gotta fire Advance.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
He choked the season away and all this stuff. I'm like, bro,
do you not know what you're talking about? Stupid?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, Like you understand they changed up what they were
doing because their starting corners were at that point supposed
to be on an island and they're hurt, Like, you
had to change up everything you were doing.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's just frustrating.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
It is very frustrating to hear people say that, and
I use a little more colorful language.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, we're on the end right now. I think you
all know I mics off.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I used some colorful language. But the Broncos defense were
in a tough spot. And also to it wasn't as
a team loss because I feel as though they once
got dominated again on time of possession and the offense
they were not able to control the ball sustained drives,
which puts the defense out there against a team that's
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really talented and both of us see were right. Buffalo
was just moving the ball down methodically and like they
were playing with their food like a cat and the side.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And as a defense, as defensive players, you know how
it feels to be out on the field for a
fifteen thirteen fourteen to fifteen play.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Drive and then offense goes three and out and you
go back out there. Woo boy, yeah it, I.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Mean you're talking about drives that winy man like, Hey,
fourteen plays off, we got fourteen play seven minutes, nine plays,
six minutes, five minutes, eleven play seven minutes, thirteen plays
seven and a half minutes. Those are the kind of
drives Buffalo was doing. We'll talk about that more we
come back Frockless Country to night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Your soul is Mine's God, that bear's great. I'm a
jealous man, Grant, I'm jealous man. Five six six nine
zero is a text launch.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
He may come in, save your stuff off and with
the buzz cutter. Any any compliments I can get from
Benjamin Albright. I'm gonna take that's confidence back here.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm just saying five six six nine there's text.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I want to hear you. Guys. Thoughts on this. People
have been talking about we need the needs for next year.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Most most of the social media people be focusing on
the offensive side the ball. Keep talking about wide receiver,
which honestly, I think tight ends a bigger need wide receiver,
but talking about wide receiver, running back, tight end. But
to me, I think there are things they need to
focus on on the defensive side too. One at each
level I think you need. I think you need another safety, uh,
I think you need some some more athleticism at the
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inside backer.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And then the big one for me is the nose tackle.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You're probably gonna let DJ Jones go just because of
the cost, and he tried to fill it admirably, but
he's a little undersized for what he is.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I like the kid out of Kentucky, the on walker
six foot six.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Three hundred and forty eight pounds that runs a high
four six forty gimme six six sixty six.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Three three forty five and runs a high four six
forty gie guinea gia. Yeah, let's see what you can do.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You get that that man is tied up to two
offensive linemen ever play six six, you know, I mean
the advanced Joseph is still a defensive coordinator, which he
should be. You know, you know how he likes to
use those linebackers to shoot the gaps. Well, if you've
got John Franklin Meyer, Zach Elliman, that guy tied on
a blocker. Who who are you not double team against
thost three? Heeah, you got a double team somebody.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You get double team two of them. You can't double
team three.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
See those measurements reminded me of someone who used to
play for the Denver Broncos who is now coaching at
a collegiate level. Yeah, you know, okay, you need someone
to clog up that A B gap command that double team.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
The running back runs in there and just like there's
nothing there, there's.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Nothing, no movement. Yeah you got vice will fork occupied.
But you've seen those OUBS trucks that had why load
that exactly what you want because that makes life easier
for the linebacker. You know, the linebacker can now scrape
because that that kind of Yes, you can't get off
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and he's trying to duol block, but you can't because
the dude is, so why right, let me go? And
now that forces teams. You know, by nature you have
to run outside plays.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You cannot.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Even when you're talking about this, it's third and one
or fourth and short of goal line, your brother outwork. No.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
My favorite, by the way, my favorite photo.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
This guy is just got against the Clemson game where
you got three offensive linemen try to hold.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You back from sacking the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Here.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know if you guys can see this. It's hilarious.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Jersey then holding on deer those cartoons where you got
to stay, you know, people hanging onto the jersey for
deer life. You think he had the ball, they've got
three closing offensive lineman try to hold him back and
he's got the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Like, now, bro, you going down. That's just my favorite.
I just love that photo. I think it's it's phenomenal.
I know you guys can't see it on the radio.
Oh yeah, they can't see on the radio.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
But uh, as far as that goes, what other what
looks to be something stressing that you think to safe?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think we're all I think we're all sure because
I got through safeties in the room. So it's a
little bit biased, but well it's no, it's not biased.
Is that for me? I can only speak for myself.
I know what I know, right, and when I see
where this team has gone.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
To me because when you think about this, this team,
they've had a lineage of linebackers, running backs, safeties right
and and obviously I was very optimistic after the team
that you know, just Simon Sli. I was optimistic for PJ,
like you, trying to take advantage of the opportunity. But
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they need more competition at that position because I was saying, at.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Some point J. L.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Skinner is gonna come along and I don't know what
what the issue is, what's going on, but he hasn't
taken that next step, and I thought he was gonna
be the guy that challenged PJ. And they was gonna
make a great combination to compliment Brandon Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
But that hasn't come to fruition. So there's nothing wrong
with adding more talent to see whatever those guys did
last year, can you elevate your level play?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, it's I'm totally with you and I they do
need to any which way you slice that, they need
to add a safety. The depth there is at minimum problematic,
So you know, I think I think that's the case,
And yeah, let a rookie compete with PJ for that
of the JEB Brandon Jones was kind of a revelation
over there.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That was from the fan perspective.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
It was gonna be tough to step into the shadow
of Justin Simmons and come away smelling like a rose.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And Brandon Jones did it.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I mean absolutely, Like we didn't talk about Justin Simmons
being golf from this defense whole year.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's a good point, and Brandon Jones stepped in making
plays right from day one.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I'm just saying Justin Simmons is an all time bronco
and well we ain't talked about missing him all year.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, I would say this, I wouldn't mind if he
return he hear me, hear me out here.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Maybe I don't know what happened with.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
The situation or whatever, but I look at it from
the standpoint. If you got Simmons at free safety Brandon
Jones as your strong safety, that makes that defense more
solid because now you got two guys who are used
to making plays. And then with Justin coming back to Denver,
you do a two year deal, right, you know, and
to say, okay, listen, this is what we're gonna look
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to pay you, almost like the deal they signed with
Kareem Jackson. But you can give me nine million dollars
for two years, you know, kind of split that up.
I believe he would take it to come back to Denver.
You put him in vans some defense with the Brandon Jones,
now you're more athletic intelligence is there and the playmaking
is there.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, and you know, I don't know which obviously we
don't know which which direction they're going to go, but yeah,
I definitely would would add another safety, whether that whether
it's Justin or you know, some some new guy that
we that we draft, but that safety needs to be uh,
improved just a bit. And also I would say we
we need a one more inside linebacker.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Another inside linebacker's a fast dog up in there.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Alex Singleton's gonna be what
thirty two coming off an injury, hownis rapping guy.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Alex was got hurt that ball. He's an active an athlete.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
But you I mean again, you're talking about thirty two
year old coming off that injury that that might be
and and the money there is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I suspect he'll be back and Coy play will too.
Though Cody played well.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
He did, but he was it's not like Josie where
he was obviously athletically limited, but he's like a step
or two that's just not quite there on some of
the stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And if for what Vance wants to do, which is
have the.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Other linebacker shoot the gap while Cody's out there, you know,
moving away from the ball, I don't know that that's
the best position for him, especially with Sternat over there.
You have to make an improvement to that, to that room.
I don't know if that's a I don't know if
that's the top of the draft priority.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
If you're spending free agent dollars on that, but you
got to get somebody in there that that shows some promise.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I think, yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
You definitely have to do that because understanding where the
game is going. And I go back to what I
said earlier about looking at the teams that won games
and wild card weekend, what did they do well? Right,
They ran the ball, and they excelled at running the
ball like punishing.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And somehow it seemed like with all these Jeans people in.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
The league, they keep valuing the running back position based
on what we what we are seeing in the playoffs.
It should kind of kick everyone in and the back
end to let them know, hey, no.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
We need to fall apart.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
It's it's vital, and it's vital for your quarterback to
deny that and say, you know what, we just get
a running back. He fall up the turnip truck. No,
not every guy's created equal, and.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You need tough defenders that thrive off of that that,
Hey I want to hit somebody.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yes, you can have everybody wanting to play the past
all the time.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
See what you're describing is you got you need a
bunch of guys from the movie three hundred. They know
I'm going to run an a gup.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I might take an L but I'm gonna leave it
over for my buddy to scrape over the top make
the tackle. That's what you need.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Hey, guys willing to say, Ben, I know, since you
love to run the ball, could you find yourself being
a linebacker or safety willing to sacrifice himself for the team.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Can do what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Sacrificed answered it for me? That would be a major collision.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
And uh, you know who our expert on that is.
I mean David Bryant, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Beard Grant Smith back there classic sixt nine zeros text line.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Since I've got two safeties in the room, I figure
I ask you guys about this one. I it's it's
tough out there's hard out there for a pimp.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Brandon Jones. Uh you saw that Brandon Joel's penalty. I
mean he was trying to do the right but he
was trying. There's gotta be some latitude for guys trying
to do the right thing and you know, turn the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
NFL and then gets the incidental There's gotta be some
latitude there. No, there's no PD to defensive players. Nothing
offensive player would run and.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Grab a defensive players face mass and twist, didn't turn
helmet for the running backs.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And the players don't know anything about that. They don't.
But then you come along as a defensive player you
do it.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
And Brandon, I mean, to his credit, like you can
tell when you slow it down, especially you can tell
I was trying to do the right thing, which is
it's such a bang bang play when you can see
in slow.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Motion that a guy's are really trying to do the
right thing there and listen.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
It's hard as a defensive player, spas, especially playing safety,
you are operating from twelve to fourteen yards deep and
you have been taught to attack like an attack dog,
right and then now yeah, every single and now you
want me to forget everything that I was taught in
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my natural instinct to do certain things.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Ball is in flight, I'm tracking said ball. It's not
my fault.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
The quarterback over through the ball is one of those
cases in my book that if you go to.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Find Brandon Jones, which I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
You got fined you damn ship, well, you gotta find
John Taller because he threw it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's crazy. He threw it.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, he'll get fine for it,
because you get fined for everything.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
That's a pre game experience I ever had.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Was sitting down there on the sideline with Dick Ferguson,
Well he was heckling the uniform violation.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh my dude, I was dying. I was like, this
was the funniest. I was like, man, we gotta get
a video of this at some point because Nick was
just ha, no, oh it, socks are fine.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It's it's so many things about the game that drives
me crazy, the uniform violations.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
And this is what happened to Brandon Jones.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Obviously from a coaching standpoint, you said, well, no, you
don't want that to happen, but in certain situations like that,
things of what it is and watching social media just
kind of go off on Brandon Jones as though, well.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That one particular play calls the Broncos a game, and
I'm like, man, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
There's no way that that one particular play cause it's
just so many other things you can get to. But
because some viewed as being very egregious, oh he could
have stopped right, I mean, we can say that he
could have stopped. But until you in that situation, you're
in the drive mode.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
No you can't, man, you just it's it's hard. It's
easy to say, hard to do.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm saying the game is is much more difficult for
defensive players than offensive players.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Man? Well, first of all, offenses dictate two defenses. So
a defense is reacting to what's happening. So you're already
one second behind trying to catch up.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
On offense, I just need one thing to go right.
I need one coverage to bust, and I'm good. On defense,
you need all eleven things to go right or else
something's gonna bust.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And I'm good.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
So it's already heavily skewed for the offense any which
way you slice it.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
See it. This is one thing I've never understood.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
If a defensive player accidentally touches the offensive player's face mask, he.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Didn't grab, he just touches it, brushes it PI five
on the way past. It's a purity.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
If a defensive player early he touches an offensive player's.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Face mask, it's what it's a penalty to the offensive player.
Derek Henny's grabbing you by your face mask and twisted
and turning to the.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Ground, and.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's nothing.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I've seen plays where you get the running back with
the stiff farm you got hands to the face right
of the defender, but the defender trying to defend themselves
that grab the face MA, and you call it on
the defender, right, It's just like, no, you shouldn't call
it on the defender because when you get a defensive
lineman and that defensive lineman is past rushing gets the
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offensive lineman, his hands gets up into the face automatically,
it's hands to the face. So it's like, well, why
can't we call this evenly? Even with passing the fairss,
we still don't get it this.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Ye, they get a push and then oh yeah, that's
just part of the No, that's not fair.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I agree with you, actually though, I mean I've seen
it to be times. I've seen guys just grabbing defensive players. Know,
with my equipment thro I'm like, come on, we gotta
have we gotta have equity here, we gotta we gotta
keep it, we gotta creep it well across the board.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
We don't really do that.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Uh Well, Steve, this season overall I mean, obviously disappointing in.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
For the Denver Broncos, but we got to talk this
up as a success, right, Oh, I definitely think so.
No one really thought that the team would win. It
was what was the line, five five.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And a half games, and they more than there.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
They've done a great job. They've worked together. Uh, the
coaches that have been doing a great job with the guys,
just getting them right. And I think that, uh, this
is the really just start of something special me too.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Now we're on the draft season.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
We gotta plug those holes, all that kind of stuff.
Looking to check in with you during during draft season.
You gonna go down to the senior bullet all or
any that kind of stuff this year?
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Not sure?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Not sure yet? Okay, Well, I'll try to try to
get you down here. We'll see. I'm gonna be down there,
so we'll see. We gotta need a break.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
We'll come back, right, Michael gonna join us. There's at
the bottle of the next hour. Bottle the next hour,
all right, Broncos Country, not Kawa
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