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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nuggets taken on the heat tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You got Jimmy Butler back in this one, but at
the half it's all Nuggets sixty seven fifty five.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Jamal Murray with twenty points to lead all scores in
that one.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Butler eight points in seventeen minutes twenty three seconds of
court time.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No other statistics of note.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Maybe shaking off a little rust there, who knows. When
we left, we said we're gonna talk a little bit
about Sean Payton is into season presser.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Obviously we had all those.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He had Greg Petter come out, you had George Peyton
come out, you had Sean Payton come out and do
their of your pressers.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We got a little clip from that you want to
get into.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm telling you what I didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You know, I didn't see a gap last weekend until
the second half, and then then you see a gap
because you're losing. But I felt real confident we'd go
in there and play well and win. We obviously didn't
play well enough. But those lines are much finer than
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we think.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I always that term there's a fine line between a
groove and a rut, and it's a player, it's two players.
It's the line of scrimmage, it's the kicking game. So
we're not looking backwards, we're looking ahead, and it starts
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with the division, you know. And there's a lot of
confidence in this team. If we could get past that game,
the next game we had to play, we felt real
good about and so.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We're still obviously we're still not there yet, and yet.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
We're a lot closer than we were at this time
of a year ago.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That was.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Misery, sorrow, drudgery, give me some other adjectives.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
There just h that was brutal. Let's say that.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think it was brutal that nobody interacted with him
when he was fishing for people to bag on Russ there,
because that's what he was doing.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I'm surprised that there were no takers.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
There wasn't any nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Everyone was just like, man, okay, dude, we're last year
was last year, like you know, and he's all telling
us that we're way better off this year than we
were last year. Well, okay, we certainly were better than
the standings. We made it to the playoffs. There's a
sense of optimism with your with your quarterback that you
might have.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The long term solution.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So I'm with you on that you don't have to
go back to the past and bash on the past
to elevate the future or to even delevate the present.
And it felt like, I'm like, okay, I mean sure,
last year was last year. I mean, I don't know,
you know, are you trying to remind everybody that you
you got to you got us all here?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
I mean, you know what, Ben, I don't know if
that was what coach Payton was trying to present. I
will say that he is accurate about one particular thing.
When you look at where the team is now with
the season ending in post the last year. Last year,
there was a lot of uncertainty where the team was
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gonna go and who's gonna leave them as far as
the quarterback position, that box is checked for sure.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
So that part of it is.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Bonix is absolutely it. I mean I think he is.
But it's just like with the CJ. Stroud thing.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I want to see a second season before I finally
say I think it is before I say I know
it is.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Well for me, I don't have to see a second
season to come out and say that. For me, it's like,
what's the evolution after the first year? That's the thing
that determines how well a quarterback looks in a sophomore season.
But there's so many things that go into whether that
guy's being.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Successful or not.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
It's not just to play himself bring your skill set
to the table. Yes, but there's a lot of things
that the Broncos need to change to definitely help out
both Nix and We'll probably get into that a little later,
but as it pertains to.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
The fact of.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
If the Broncos got past Buffalo, they felt great about
the matchup against Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That was the other part I wanted to get it too.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Now when I.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
When I heard that, I was like, did anyone else
hear that?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
And I said, I said, it could be wrong, but were.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Certain people looking past Buffalo looking to Kansas City? Because
that's something that I know, it's a cardinal rule in
the sand in.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Any sport, but it does happen.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
So was coach Peyton, I guess, admitting that that was
kind of the viewpoint of certain individuals and maybe him himself.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think for us, I thought it was funny that
you would even do it, Like, why are you giving
Andy Reid free gasoline?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Because you know what's gonna happen. Now, it's Kansas City's
gonna play that quote on Loop.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
The week that they're playing the Broncos the next time
they're playing the Broncos to be old, to be fair, Yeah,
we were a field goal away, but we still lost
to Kansas City Narrowhead, and then we beat up on
their their practice squads like we don't. You don't really,
I mean, it counts as a win. But I know
for a fact, Kansas City didn't even game plan that game.
They didn't even game plan that game. I'm very serious.
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Andy Reid let the coaches, let the offensive and defensive
coaches kind of handled how they wanted. They didn't even
game plan that game. They went in there with a
fifteen place script and that was it.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
So do you think coach Payton's himself or there's a
possibility probability that he might have looked too far ahead?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean, you're.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Always told not to do that, and then he's out
there admitting he was doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that just looking ahead only forbidden for players? Because
at the end of the day, I was just like,
why does he do this?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Though, like Sean, I think, for whatever reason, I understand
the counter argument here, which is a Shawn belief and
his guys, we could have won that, we could have
got Okay, fine, I understand that, but you don't need
to do that to show belief in your guys. And
I don't think anybody's taken anything from that. No player
I know has taken something from that. Oh, coach really
believes in this, you know, like, why are you giving
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free gasoline to your part?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Remember what he said?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Don't be an anonymous donor.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Yeah, remember that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Don't be a donor with your name and face on
it either.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
The coaches say a lot of things. Yeah, but this
guy has had.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
A habit of popping off at the mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He called Nick Hackett the worst coaching job in history,
which may have been true, but that he turned around
and lost to him.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Coaches say a lot of things. Then they said a
lot of things.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, I just don't like, if you're gonna say something,
I would Nobody paints a target on his players like
Sean Payton.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But this is what things are different than what they
were ten years.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Ago, because what you're talking about is the keeping a receipt.
Usually when coaches say things, they go in one ear
right the other.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The new York just kept those receipts and they cashed
them at the other game.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Well, yeah, we would like a refund. Yes on your tweet.
This is a different time.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
And error when it comes to saying something and people
holding on their receipts hoping and waiting that they can
go back and present them up to you.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Uh, there's always competition, and coaches always use or try
to use something to motivate their players and bulliship bar material.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Could Andy Reid do that? Yes he could?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Oh why would he? He's on the verge of winning
his third hotel. Andy Reid is absolutely keeping that sound
stop the week up next year?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
What Sean Payton, You know these Broncos, they think they
can kick our butts.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean Kansas City, those guys, guys who wanted us
in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Let's show them what it's like in the regular season.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So he also said they're gonna give any edge you can,
and that's bulletime, I know.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
But does Kansas City need any other edge? No, they don't.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I don't care if they need great coaches year, if
they are hamming.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It up, even if they don't need Yeah, I mean
great coaches find those edges even if they don't need.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, I don't think Andy Reid at this point we
would actually use it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Bro They're gonna have that on loop. Denver Broncos think
they're in our league. We're a three peak dynasty. We're
a three peak dynasty. And they hit They're two and
two against us since that coach got here. One of
those wins came against our practice squad.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well, I mean when you look at Coach Payton talk
about the gap, right, he's like, how far off are
the Broncos from really competing?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Now?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Notice I did not say I didn't mention anything about
a Super Bowl. I said compete team. Now, they showed
that they were competitive to get to the point of
playing Buffalo, but they didn't really truly bring the competing
part in that.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But there's the.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Difference between and the Broncos are team that checks the
boxes and beats the team they're supposed to beat, right right,
they beat the Raiders, they beat it. You know, you
beat the teams you're supposed to be didn't really beat
too many contenders this year. The one you the one
playoff team you really beat was Tampa. They were missing
how many start with the like six starters in that game.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Okay, but but could.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
They look at the game against the Bengals and say, look,
that was a team that was regardless of what the
Bengals defense was, we knew that Joe Burrow in that
offense was a high powered offense.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yes, and they and the Bengals won that game.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
I know, then, why did you he just had to
stick to dader in the blue.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm just want to say, I'm just let me just
take over Oe slices for sure.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Up.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
No, no, I'm not saying years.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Cincinnati was one of those competitive teams. So the Broncos
played well and that kind of was a measure stink
and said, okay, well, yeah, you beat the teams that
you were supposed to beat, and no one really was
really thinking that you're gonna beat Cincinnati. But you did
play them well, and Bo did play well, so did
Marvin Mims.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And what about the game in Kansas City?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
They lost that.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They lost that game too.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Look, you guys.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Anthy l's and trying to polish you up. You guys
will talking about the Chargers game two while we're at it.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
No, I'm not trying to just hand you L's I'm
just saying, okay, what enough, l I last Nay.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I can't cram anymore in there.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
But I'm just looking at the fact of saying, okay, well,
if you're looking at something that gives you some type
of happiness and joy I said, sure.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
We made the playoffs, we're checking the boxing teams for
supposed to I get that, but sometimes you got to
take small steps and baby steps.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, we're walking. We're not crawling anymore.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
We're walking right, right, So so those things actually account
for something. Now I'm not saying ben, so let me
go on record so you actually know what I'm saying. Right,
I'm not saying okay, well, like the typical coach speak,
or we are one player away. I'm not gonna say
that the Broncos are not one player away from competing
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with Kansas City Baltimore when I think about Buffalo, because
once again, the AFC as a conference, it is murderous role.
So we're talking about multiple players to do this, and
maybe we're talking about not in twenty twenty five, could
be twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, I think we're I think we're a team that's
good enough to make the playoffs now, but I wouldn't
call us a contender.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I mean it's right because we got we gotrace
by contentation.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
See that that's pushing.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
If someone want to go out there and do that,
you're being a true homer, insane that because they are
not in the realm of being a contender.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're not a bad football team anymore, right thing, Do
you think we're on the level of like the Packers?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Would that being would that be competiby don't make the
Packers are as good as everybody thinks the Packers are.
We're not on the level of Detroit. We're not Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Well, hey, the Packers got Josh Jacobs, so in that regard, Yeah, Josh.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Jacobs, the different running back away as in the draft, the.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
One running back and writing that takes everything.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, when are they gonna use him five times? They're
gonna get Aston j running the game?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He said, Yeah, I mean, come on, no, it's and
I'm not trying to I'm trying like we're better, We're
a better football team. Yes, of course, we don't need
to sit there pouring gasole and giving free gasoline to
contenders like we're not at that. We're not at that stage.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
We're not We're not at.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
The stage where we can mouth off handy Regis.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
But from a coaching standpoint, coaches have to do what
they have to do to try to motivate their players.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Do you think, just.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like going back to the play how many it's got
me fired?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Let me ask you, Let me ask you the questions
like when Sean said what he said about Nathaniel Hacket, right,
I said, I said, well, could this be Sean trying
to find a way, right, there's some.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Salt in the game and motivate his players, could heut? Okay?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
So wait with this, Well the team got made it
to the playoffs, though, the Broncos made.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It to the playoffs, so they didn't need Hackett.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
When Hackett now wouldst last year?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
No no no. But the Broncos had an.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Opportunity to do that last year, right they win the
Patriots game, which they didn't, that would have kept them
in the conversation. But I'm just saying you move on
from that, you move to this year, and you make
the playoffs, right, so you try everything you can to
try to motivate your players. I'm just asking you if
you feel as though what the parting comments from Sean
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Payton and what he said and how he said it,
could it be a way of motivating him as players
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Is there a possibility.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think they're gonna remember.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I don't think anybody's gonna remember this, Candlem, I don't
think we're going to remember this.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean, this is not Leon. I don't the whole
thing is.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
This whole thing is like like you paid it a
target on your players last year and it didn't work.
In fact, that game really wasn't close. We lost thirty
one twenty one. I didn't score you know, we think
we scored like in the fourth quarter, we put a
puts up in the fourth quarter with rush you know,
doing whatever. But they scored twenty three points in the
second half of that game that would have been enough
to win. That doesn't even count what they did the
first half. Like Nate Hackett's worst performance or whatever, you
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know whatever. You you just keep Payton targets on your guys,
And I'm like, I wouldn't like that.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I wouldn't like it if my coach was out there
doing that.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You want, you want confidence in us, you you experiened
the confidence.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Probably we want to sneak up on people.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't want to sit there and create a you know,
an out there controversy where these guys are going to
rally around their crap offensive coordinator and turn around and
put on a shelf. The one game they got scheded,
the one game they got circled. All year, the shots
offense showed up.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
For So you don't have a problem with him believing this.
You just have a play problem with him saying that
out loud.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, that's where it is.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I don't care it Wilson.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Wilson was their quarterback in that game.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But when I'm okay with my coach thinking it, Hell,
I'm okay with you Max.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
He's saying right, because now.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Both of us own the line players when you go
out there play and the coaches on the line at
the same time. It's not just the players by themselves.
And look, I've been around some great coaches like wayde
Phillips didn't pop off.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
He didn't he didn't talk.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That was his thing. Mike Sanahan didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Bill Parcells had his unique way of doing it right,
and sometimes even calling you out.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
In the media by your name. But that's his own play.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He's not He's not sitting there painting the target by
firing up that gassing up the other team said hey,
you know, well, we'd probably cruise past the number one
seat anyway.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
You know, whatever is thee see Parcels is not going
to just paint it on the team. He's going to
paint it on you specifically, right right, So everyone knows, well,
Nick Ferguson was tripping last game. So if he doesn't
go out there and show and prove against Cleveland, some's
gonna happen. And it may happen right as you walking
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off the field. Now, if that don't motivates you, I
don't know what will.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
And I could tell you a young Mick Ferguson was
holy motive. They yeah, I'm just saying like he's motive.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Coach, he'd done that in the media. If your coach
had called that, I said, yeah, we probably would have.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know, you're the worst You're the worst seed to
make the playoffs, and you're exhibiting at your endseason press
conference a confidence that you were going to beat the
number one seed in the playoffs when you hadn't showed
a propensity to beat.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Over five hundred teams all year.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Well, he's putting a lot of pressure on himself in
he just opened the door twenty five.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Is there any pressure on him at all? He's making
eighteen million a year. Is there pressure on him?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Well, he just put it on himself in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I guess the clock starts now and he can shut
me up next season, Brocos Country.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Night'd be back in a minute.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I was trying to get him a little pick up.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But there our Boston was in here.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Dave Temper during the break, not the owner of the
Carolina Panthers, but you should definitely tweet him like he
is h on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I was trying to get him stick around for the
pick him.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Man, he was, man wants to be cracked over the mics.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
He just he would have run it for it. It
would run, duck and run. Man. He just he couldn't
handle heat. I guess there we go.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, he's now he's back. Pull us this minute of
you pick him.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Let's try to get you to stick around. There we go.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Now we got it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You're micro while working there.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, all right, we got Dave Texans, the owner of
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's right, that's right. You know, definitely seem like he
is has been over for a minute.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I'll get your time.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh my goodness, give me a little pick them here,
that's the visual round pick them.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I think you know how to handle this second. You
have to see you there we go. Okay, so we
got this. We'll start off with the easy one. Texans.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'm a listener at the long time listener, first time
Texans at the Kansas City Chiefs. I think everybody in
the country wants to Chief to lose this one, but
they are heavily favored here.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I believe it's eight and a half points. Stroud to
give mix it a hole on the left side, first.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Down and more hand side the ten hand side, the
five driving to the pylon on the left sideline and
it's a touchdown. But Houston Texans have just put the cherry.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
On top and the snap back to throw Mahomes rolling
right looking down field, lets it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Fly to the in zone line open.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Travis Kelsey has a touchdown Kansas City.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
It's a twelve yard score and Kelsey dunk the football
on the colpost.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's a Christmas Day score. For Kelsey and the Chiefs.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
I had to go back a minute to get a
Chiefs highlight, and yeah, there's calls courtesy of Westwood One,
Kevin Coogler and JP Shadrick. I like the Chiefs, but
I don't know about the eight and a half points.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, that's a that's a tough ask right there, although
I think they can cover.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I thought it was funny this week with Dana Rolofski
got on there instead of the chief.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Three peat that Travis Kelsey could retire.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So Travis just showed up to help dan Orlowski tire
retire from being an analyst. You guys see that bit.
It's some paperwork that if they three peated, he's gonna
retire from being an analyst. I didn't played the highlight.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Of dan Orlowsky right out the back of the end
zone and all that kind of It was great, all
of all the above. Kansas City to win this. Kansas
City's had a month to rest.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You give Andy Reid more than two weeks to game
plan anybody, and it's it's gonna be it's gonna be rough.
He's got one of the best records with multiple weeks
to prepare for somebody at all time.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I love the city. I look Kansas City in the eight.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And a half.
Speaker 11 (19:02):
It's funny this time of the year, it feels like
these past couple of seasons, it just people like to
start picking against the Chiefs. And I'm not one of
those people. I mean, you got fifteen there, I will
ride that likely. I mean until he's just out, and
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
I'm not a big believer in Houston.
Speaker 11 (19:21):
I think they beat a Chargers team that just I
don't know, that was a really ugly performance there by Guerta.
So I still think the Texans' most recent body of
work has not been very impressive, and I think that
Kansas City defense is still very real and fifteen is
more than real. So I'm very comfortable with case here.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I'm gonna go with Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
And one of the reasons I'm going to go with
Kansas City is some of what what Dave said. But
the biggest thing is Joe Mixon, who has been kind
of the guy that uplifted c J.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Straut. He has an ink injury.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
He ran for one hundred and six yards against the
Chargers the week before. If he is not in the game,
that changes everything. As far as play action and Nico
Collins down a field. So once again, I hate to
say it, but fifteen moves on.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So, by the way, this is the most heavily bet
game of the week, almost forty percent more bets on
this game than any other game going on. It's fifty
five percent of the bets are on Kansas City fifty
one percent.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Of the money.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So the public's pretty close on that eight and a
half spread. But it is one of the most heavy
bet games.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Of the week.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Commanders and our Commander in Chief Dan Quinn against the
Dead Dwight Lions.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Fourth and two to five. They can get a first down.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
He's standing in the pocket as the statue.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
He whips it into the end zone. It's a touchdown.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
McLaurin in the middle of the end zone. Terry McLaurin
comes up enormous for the Commanders. Two to the right
for Golf for that shimmering gray helmet. He takes the staff,
he throws it far aside, Bell pets it back.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Off the catch. Well Yams running down the sidelined.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Another trick play for the Lions. The circus travels.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's a touchdown. James and Williams.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Those calls courtesy of Jason Bennetti with Westwood One, and
I'm rooting for our guy coach Bagano, but I think
their glorious season comes to an end this week.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Look a lot of Dan on Dan crime Here is
Dan Campbell takes on Dan Quinn. Nine and a half
points spread, biggest spread of the weekend. Fifty three percent
of bets are on the Commanders with that nine and
a half, but only fifty one percent of money.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Again, pretty tight on this one as well.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I look, Carrick Goff is the best quarterback in the
NFL thrown against man coverage. The Washington Commanders run man
coverage more than anybody else. I love the Commanders, but
I don't like him in this one. Give me Detroit
to win, Give me the Commanders to cover the gim
me Detroit to win.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
I like the Commanders to cover here too. I mean,
Jane Daniels is fun. He does not seem to have
fear very much. I don't think that Washington defense is terrible,
but if they're not good enough to go out and
and beat Detroit, had just been on a roll all year.
We went out last year, yea to that Saturday night
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game where they took the Broncos heads off right, and
that place is loud, loud, like can you watch it
and you go looks love that place. We can say
first hand that was a Saturday night regular season game
that town. That roof is ready to come off. And
do they get David Montgomery back this weekend? Potentially it's
looking that way. That's still home, but it's looking that way.
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More of the reasons to like Detroit. But it wouldn't
be surprised if Washington makes this interesting loudest.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Indoor stadium I've ever been into for a game. Loudest
was that game loudest indoor state. By the way, both
these teams the most aggressive teams on fourth down. Maybe
they make the punters inactive and we just see four
out football games come down.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Me being a former defensive player in safety, I love
those tightan nine to seven types of games. And the
fact that David Montgomery could be making his return and
no one Zamere Gibbs like last game, I think, boyd
rustling touchdowns that dude, it's sensation.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
You put that tandem together.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
And knowing as though Dan Quinn and John Bogono all
season long, they've struggled defensively against the run, and my
biggest concern for Detroit Lions fans.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
If you keep the game tight.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
We've seen Jayde Daniels move the ball down a position
and put his team in a position to score. But
I'm thinking that the lines are gonna play keep away
and they're gonna do something that most teams need to
do in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Run the freaking ball. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I expect them to try to keep the ball out
of the hands of Washington and try to keep it
up two scores late, because we've seen what Jayden Daniels
of Washington Magic has done.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
All year with those last minutes scoring drives. Third game,
Rams at the Philadelphia.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
Eagles shotgun snapped the stafford on first in ten shot
on till at to ten pop spinning past the five
in put a touchdown, says Allen, puck that ball outside
the hashmark on a spin the bell, tight grab and
the run and a touchdown for the Rams.
Speaker 10 (23:59):
Suck it down the ball spot at the eleven yard line,
thefta smith, the motion, the kurts out of the gun.
We'll play for the first time, dancing of the hockey
pulls back to the twenty six, looks toward the end zone,
fires toward the back of the en zone.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Come touchdown, Eagles. Johan Dotson.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
He said he would make an impact, and he makes
an impact right out.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Of the gate.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Knows calls courtesy of Kevin Harlan and Tom McCarthy with.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Westwood One and Man.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
I like the Rams to ride the momentum in this
when Jalen Hurts still doesn't quite look like himself coming
off that concussion, I think the Rams pull off the upset.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Philadelphia's gonna boat race the Rams.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Matt Stafford is one in eight in games where it's
thirty two degrees or less and or snowing, it is
expected to be snowing eighty five percent chance of snow
and Philly and a thirty degree kickoff Taphir twenty eight
to thirty degree temperature and kickoff. Matt Stafford, for all
that he does, is terrible in the cold. I love
Philadelphia in this one. I like Philly to boat race him.
I love him to cover the six. This is the
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least bet game of the week, by the way. Least
that game of the week twenty three percent, about sixty
seven percent of money.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I agree with young Grant Smith there. But I'm going
out on a limb and saying Philly boat racism.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I like Philly to be the NFC rep in the
Super Bowl too.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
Yeah, I like Philly here. I didn't know those stats
about Stafford. So you were saying that on kaa sports
there that is not good, that that weather works looks
terrible out there. I'm not as convinced that the Rams
are as good as what we saw last week. I
felt like that was a little more of a situation
of mentor beating pupil with McVeigh there and O'Connell, and
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so I'm not entirely sold that team's good enough to
go on the road in that in that weather and.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
And get it get it done.
Speaker 11 (25:42):
Vic Fangio has been terrific as a defensive coordinator out there.
I like Philly by double digits O double digits.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Yeah wait wait listen, I'm going to big Philly, but
I was going by by double dientis wow.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Mister Jimmy like a grand smithspect.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
That's fascinating that you tossed that out there. It would
be great to see, but I look at it this way. Actually,
wouldn't it wouldn't be a good game. Well, look, AJ
Brown last week had to sit on the sideline to
read a book.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
The Combine.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yes, yes, he's trying to find that author was a
practice today for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, the author of that book was today, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Was book sales went from the bottom of the books
to the top of Amazon, so I'm sure he was.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
But for me, it's.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
About run game in cold weather and sa Kwan Barkley
has been sensational all season long.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Seam, are you sitting the.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Theme here in the league?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
In the in the league where they devalue the quote
the running back position, All the running backs are going
to help uplift their teams. So Philly wins. I don't
know what double digits, but Philly Willis's. I could see
that thing finishing up by ten. However, it seems like
one of those things where AJ Brown would have.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
A big game.
Speaker 11 (26:59):
I rememberland out in New Orleans. Nothing then comes back
and ben and as a game. That wouldn't shock.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Me either, because I don't even trust I don't trust
the Rams. Secondary just be totally honest, and you got
down his goddard.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's a yoga defense.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
He and Smith come on man, Nick.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
What did you say last week when I was filling
in with you? The playoffs are where names are made.
We're going to make your name in the playoffs. What
this RAM secondary is gonna do well?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Rams defensive cooridator Chris Schuley got some eyebrows raised with
what they did against Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, but I don't Philly's a whole different animal. I
don't like.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
That.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, that's putting Ben in right now?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Is I'm just kidding David awake here, or at least
most people. Game of the Week the Baltimore Ravens taking
on the Buffalo Bills and the Battle of.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Free boat race, the Broncos Lamar and the Shotgun.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Here's the snap.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Jackson will hand it off to Henry up the middle,
big hole, thirty twenty.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Five down to the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown Ravens
Derek Henry second touchdown r than I first thing up the.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Middle for forty four.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
This is snat hand off.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
The cook coming on the left side, carts through a
hole forty thirty five thirty and.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
There he goes. They're not gonna get him.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
James Tuck is going forty six yards for the touchdown,
the tuck is in.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
The kitchen again.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Love that call from Chris Brown with WGR and the
other call for the Ravens Westwood One's Ryan Rakey and
I played those running clips there because to next point,
I think both these quarterbacks are top notch. We obviously
know that first time the top two MVP candidates going
against each other since Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. I
think it's King Henry lifting the load for the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I like the Ravens to win this game on the road.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
This one's started off Buffalo Bills one and a half
point favorites. Now they're a one point dog and home
bud fifty six percent of its fifty four percent of
money on Buffalo in this one. I like the Bills
at home. This is gonna be a cold, cold game.
Could be the negative temperatures with the wind chill. I
don't like Lamar Jackson in the cold. The numbers are
not as bad as Matt Stafford, but they aren't great
in the cold for Lamar Jackson. I just like the
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Bills having the home field advantage, having the cold weather advantage, and.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I feel like Buffalo is going to do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That they did, or at least attempt to do the
same thing they did to Denver, which puts six to
seven offensive linemen in there at a time.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And try and go downhill with eight minute drives.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Keep your defense fresh and on the sideline because you're
going to need it in the fourth quarter against Derrick Henry.
Speaker 11 (29:25):
Yeah, this is a tough one in a pleasant way.
This is a great matchup, as we all know. I
do like Baltimore here, just based on who I believe
is the best running back in.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Our lifetime possibly.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
I mean, that fella is no joke and is such
a joy to watch him punish. And the Ravens defense,
while it's not great against the pass, it still has
improved significantly as the season has gone on, and Lamar
has certainly been on one interesting though I didn't realize
him in cold weather was a bit of an issue.
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But now Derrick Henry and that Ravens defense I think
will be enough.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You know what, Ben, I know you talked about Lamar
Jackson and the cold weather, but guess what, he can
run the damn football, and so can Derrick Henry six
to two hundred and forty seven pounds, and he's coming downhill.
The last time they've played the Bills, he rushed for
one ninety nine against Pittsburgh a week ago.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
One eighty eight.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You think they're gonna change the game plan, Todd Munkin
is not playing around. They're trying to run their way
all the way to the super Bowl in New Orleans.
And then we know how you know your experience with
running backs coming downhill.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
That's what's gonna be for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's gonna look like guys like me, guy Derick Henry
out there like a look about by side.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Will you trust DeMar Hamlin one on one with Derrick Henry? Yes?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Man, I say this, Normally I would say no, But
I'll say the most the bravest thing I ever saw
was when Derek Henry and the Tennessee Titans came here
to Denver and I saw Derek Henry around the corner
and Bryce Callahan, who is literally myself.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That's the same player wearing enough it took him down.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
That's not the same player. They're they're not lying, They're
not the same. I'm been rippon for I'm a man.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
You guys all know this, But what if I were
I'll put my money on Derrick Henry to win that
particular battle.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Bills are fourteen and two under Sean McDermott with the
temperatures out of thirty two degrees. Lamar Jackson's played two
games where the temperature has been colder than twenty seven
degrees and he's won and more two games in his
career below twenty seven degrees.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Oh wow, and that called hits different up and different.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Guess what you know what?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And the oldest game ever played it was twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Well in those games, guess what he didn't have.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
He didn't have a slis hammer and David Dinny, Yeah,
the oldest game Dereck Henry's ever played in twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
He gets different, I mean right there.
Speaker 11 (31:56):
And the Bill's defense has not has just not been
very very good.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
So no, now, man, talk with you about Derrek Henry.
Speaker 11 (32:05):
I'm about taking I believe it's they're on the field.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
There you go, and that's not you know what that's
like and have someone run through your chest.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
There's a difference between playing the Bills and playing the
Bills and the cold.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I'm just saying there's a Baltimore is saying the Phoenix.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
It's there's something.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, every games ever played in his career was twenty
five degrees in his career.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It's going to be negative eight. Bruffalo Bills have extensive
experience playing in this kind of weather.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Turn around and hand the ball off.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Enough, said Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Is one game in the twenties twenty two degrees one.
The guys, they're not I mean telling you this is
like Bart Scott popping viagara cold.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
No, you know what you guys remember that? Do you
know what I'm talking about? I still exactly what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
I still remember this Bart Scott, I don't get.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
The blood flow and you should pops the viagara before
the game. Oh wow, I said this on television.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Telling me.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
Yeah, it's all guys that Papa Papolo blue pills that.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Yeah, that's a whole different level win.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
She'll Winshill is supposed to be. It could be negative
eight in this game. Negative eight.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
That weather speaks run the ball and who has a
better run game?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Biods are fourteen and two with Josh Allen on thirty
two degrees.
Speaker 11 (33:19):
Okay, look, man, this is not a game that I
would touch with a nickel of mine when it comes
to money.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I mean, that is a hard one to call. I mean,
I'm not as.
Speaker 11 (33:28):
Confident as I am as I feel like for the Eagles,
for example, But I do I this time of the year,
run the ball. Who's got the better defense, Both quarterbacks
clearly a couple of the best. Still, I still think
Baltimore is just going to find you find find their way.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
But I wouldn't. I don't.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
It's not like the confidence level is sky high either,
because Josh Allen is such a game changer as well.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
All Right, Buffalo wins.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm coming in here on Monday, and I've spent the
gallon of Martinelli's from each on you.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm just saying, Broncos Country might be back weeks.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
What do we get Yeah, wait,
Nuggets taken on the heat tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You got Jimmy Butler back in this one, but at
the half it's all Nuggets sixty seven fifty five.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Jamal Murray with twenty points to lead all scores in
that one.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Butler eight points in seventeen minutes twenty three seconds of
court time.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No other statistics of note.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Maybe shaking off a little rust there, who knows. When
we left, we said we're gonna talk a little bit
about Sean Payton is into season presser.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Obviously we had all those.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He had Greg Petter come out, you had George Peyton
come out, you had Sean Payton come out and do
their of your pressers.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We got a little clip from that you want to
get into.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm telling you what I didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You know, I didn't see a gap last weekend until
the second half, and then then you see a gap
because you're losing. But I felt real confident we'd go
in there and play well and win. We obviously didn't
play well enough. But those lines are much finer than
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we think.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I always that term there's a fine line between a
groove and a rut, and it's a player, it's two players.
It's the line of scrimmage, it's the kicking game. So
we're not looking backwards, we're looking ahead, and it starts
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with the division, you know. And there's a lot of
confidence in this team. If we could get past that game,
the next game we had to play, we felt real
good about and so.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We're still obviously we're still not there yet, and yet.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
We're a lot closer than we were at this time
of a year ago.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That was.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Misery, sorrow, drudgery, give me some other adjectives.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
There just h that was brutal. Let's say that.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think it was brutal that nobody interacted with him
when he was fishing for people to bag on Russ there,
because that's what he was doing.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I'm surprised that there were no takers.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
There wasn't any nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Everyone was just like, man, okay, dude, we're last year
was last year, like you know, and he's all telling
us that we're way better off this year than we
were last year. Well, okay, we certainly were better than
the standings. We made it to the playoffs. There's a
sense of optimism with your with your quarterback that you
might have.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The long term solution.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So I'm with you on that you don't have to
go back to the past and bash on the past
to elevate the future or to even delevate the present.
And it felt like, I'm like, okay, I mean sure,
last year was last year. I mean, I don't know,
you know, are you trying to remind everybody that you
you got to you got us all here?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
I mean, you know what, Ben, I don't know if
that was what coach Payton was trying to present. I
will say that he is accurate about one particular thing.
When you look at where the team is now with
the season ending in post the last year. Last year,
there was a lot of uncertainty where the team was
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gonna go and who's gonna leave them as far as
the quarterback position, that box is checked for sure.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
So that part of it is.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Bonix is absolutely it. I mean I think he is.
But it's just like with the CJ. Stroud thing.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I want to see a second season before I finally
say I think it is before I say I know
it is.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Well for me, I don't have to see a second
season to come out and say that. For me, it's like,
what's the evolution after the first year? That's the thing
that determines how well a quarterback looks in a sophomore season.
But there's so many things that go into whether that
guy's being.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Successful or not.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
It's not just to play himself bring your skill set
to the table. Yes, but there's a lot of things
that the Broncos need to change to definitely help out
both Nix and We'll probably get into that a little later,
but as it pertains to.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
The fact of.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
If the Broncos got past Buffalo, they felt great about
the matchup against Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That was the other part I wanted to get it too.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Now when I.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
When I heard that, I was like, did anyone else
hear that?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
And I said, I said, it could be wrong, but were.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Certain people looking past Buffalo looking to Kansas City? Because
that's something that I know, it's a cardinal rule in
the sand in.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Any sport, but it does happen.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
So was coach Peyton, I guess, admitting that that was
kind of the viewpoint of certain individuals and maybe him himself.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think for us, I thought it was funny that
you would even do it, Like, why are you giving
Andy Reid free gasoline?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Because you know what's gonna happen. Now, it's Kansas City's
gonna play that quote on Loop.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
The week that they're playing the Broncos the next time
they're playing the Broncos to be old, to be fair, Yeah,
we were a field goal away, but we still lost
to Kansas City Narrowhead, and then we beat up on
their their practice squads like we don't. You don't really,
I mean, it counts as a win. But I know
for a fact, Kansas City didn't even game plan that game.
They didn't even game plan that game. I'm very serious.
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Andy Reid let the coaches, let the offensive and defensive
coaches kind of handled how they wanted. They didn't even
game plan that game. They went in there with a
fifteen place script and that was it.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
So do you think coach Payton's himself or there's a
possibility probability that he might have looked too far ahead?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean, you're.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Always told not to do that, and then he's out
there admitting he was doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that just looking ahead only forbidden for players? Because
at the end of the day, I was just like,
why does he do this?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Though, like Sean, I think, for whatever reason, I understand
the counter argument here, which is a Shawn belief and
his guys, we could have won that, we could have
got Okay, fine, I understand that, but you don't need
to do that to show belief in your guys. And
I don't think anybody's taken anything from that. No player
I know has taken something from that. Oh, coach really
believes in this, you know, like, why are you giving
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free gasoline to your part?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Remember what he said?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Don't be an anonymous donor.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Yeah, remember that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Don't be a donor with your name and face on
it either.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
The coaches say a lot of things. Yeah, but this
guy has had.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
A habit of popping off at the mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He called Nick Hackett the worst coaching job in history,
which may have been true, but that he turned around
and lost to him.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Coaches say a lot of things. Then they said a
lot of things.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, I just don't like, if you're gonna say something,
I would Nobody paints a target on his players like
Sean Payton.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But this is what things are different than what they
were ten years.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Ago, because what you're talking about is the keeping a receipt.
Usually when coaches say things, they go in one ear
right the other.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The new York just kept those receipts and they cashed
them at the other game.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Well, yeah, we would like a refund. Yes on your tweet.
This is a different time.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
And error when it comes to saying something and people
holding on their receipts hoping and waiting that they can
go back and present them up to you.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Uh, there's always competition, and coaches always use or try
to use something to motivate their players and bulliship bar material.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Could Andy Reid do that? Yes he could?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Oh why would he? He's on the verge of winning
his third hotel. Andy Reid is absolutely keeping that sound
stop the week up next year?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
What Sean Payton, You know these Broncos, they think they
can kick our butts.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean Kansas City, those guys, guys who wanted us
in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Let's show them what it's like in the regular season.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So he also said they're gonna give any edge you can,
and that's bulletime, I know.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
But does Kansas City need any other edge? No, they don't.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I don't care if they need great coaches year, if
they are hamming.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It up, even if they don't need Yeah, I mean
great coaches find those edges even if they don't need.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, I don't think Andy Reid at this point we
would actually use it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Bro They're gonna have that on loop. Denver Broncos think
they're in our league. We're a three peak dynasty. We're
a three peak dynasty. And they hit They're two and
two against us since that coach got here. One of
those wins came against our practice squad.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well, I mean when you look at Coach Payton talk
about the gap, right, he's like, how far off are
the Broncos from really competing?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Now?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Notice I did not say I didn't mention anything about
a Super Bowl. I said compete team. Now, they showed
that they were competitive to get to the point of
playing Buffalo, but they didn't really truly bring the competing
part in that.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But there's the.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Difference between and the Broncos are team that checks the
boxes and beats the team they're supposed to beat, right right,
they beat the Raiders, they beat it. You know, you
beat the teams you're supposed to be didn't really beat
too many contenders this year. The one you the one
playoff team you really beat was Tampa. They were missing
how many start with the like six starters in that game.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Okay, but but could.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
They look at the game against the Bengals and say, look,
that was a team that was regardless of what the
Bengals defense was, we knew that Joe Burrow in that
offense was a high powered offense.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yes, and they and the Bengals won that game.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
I know, then, why did you he just had to
stick to dader in the blue.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm just want to say, I'm just let me just
take over Oe slices for sure.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Up.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
No, no, I'm not saying years.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Cincinnati was one of those competitive teams. So the Broncos
played well and that kind of was a measure stink
and said, okay, well, yeah, you beat the teams that
you were supposed to beat, and no one really was
really thinking that you're gonna beat Cincinnati. But you did
play them well, and Bo did play well, so did
Marvin Mims.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And what about the game in Kansas City?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
They lost that.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They lost that game too.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Look, you guys.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Anthy l's and trying to polish you up. You guys
will talking about the Chargers game two while we're at it.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
No, I'm not trying to just hand you L's I'm
just saying, okay, what enough, l I last Nay.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I can't cram anymore in there.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
But I'm just looking at the fact of saying, okay, well,
if you're looking at something that gives you some type
of happiness and joy I said, sure.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
We made the playoffs, we're checking the boxing teams for
supposed to I get that, but sometimes you got to
take small steps and baby steps.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, we're walking. We're not crawling anymore.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
We're walking right, right, So so those things actually account
for something. Now I'm not saying ben, so let me
go on record so you actually know what I'm saying. Right,
I'm not saying okay, well, like the typical coach speak,
or we are one player away. I'm not gonna say
that the Broncos are not one player away from competing
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with Kansas City Baltimore when I think about Buffalo, because
once again, the AFC as a conference, it is murderous role.
So we're talking about multiple players to do this, and
maybe we're talking about not in twenty twenty five, could
be twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, I think we're I think we're a team that's
good enough to make the playoffs now, but I wouldn't
call us a contender.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I mean it's right because we got we gotrace
by contentation.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
See that that's pushing.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
If someone want to go out there and do that,
you're being a true homer, insane that because they are
not in the realm of being a contender.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're not a bad football team anymore, right thing, Do
you think we're on the level of like the Packers?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Would that being would that be competiby don't make the
Packers are as good as everybody thinks the Packers are.
We're not on the level of Detroit. We're not Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Well, hey, the Packers got Josh Jacobs, so in that regard, Yeah, Josh.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Jacobs, the different running back away as in the draft, the.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
One running back and writing that takes everything.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, when are they gonna use him five times? They're
gonna get Aston j running the game?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He said, Yeah, I mean, come on, no, it's and
I'm not trying to I'm trying like we're better, We're
a better football team. Yes, of course, we don't need
to sit there pouring gasole and giving free gasoline to
contenders like we're not at that. We're not at that stage.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
We're not We're not at.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
The stage where we can mouth off handy Regis.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
But from a coaching standpoint, coaches have to do what
they have to do to try to motivate their players.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Do you think, just.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like going back to the play how many it's got
me fired?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Let me ask you, Let me ask you the questions
like when Sean said what he said about Nathaniel Hacket, right,
I said, I said, well, could this be Sean trying
to find a way, right, there's some.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Salt in the game and motivate his players, could heut? Okay?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
So wait with this, Well the team got made it
to the playoffs, though, the Broncos made.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It to the playoffs, so they didn't need Hackett.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
When Hackett now wouldst last year?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
No no no. But the Broncos had an.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Opportunity to do that last year, right they win the
Patriots game, which they didn't, that would have kept them
in the conversation. But I'm just saying you move on
from that, you move to this year, and you make
the playoffs, right, so you try everything you can to
try to motivate your players. I'm just asking you if
you feel as though what the parting comments from Sean
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Payton and what he said and how he said it,
could it be a way of motivating him as players
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Is there a possibility.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think they're gonna remember.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I don't think anybody's gonna remember this, Candlem, I don't
think we're going to remember this.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean, this is not Leon. I don't the whole
thing is.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
This whole thing is like like you paid it a
target on your players last year and it didn't work.
In fact, that game really wasn't close. We lost thirty
one twenty one. I didn't score you know, we think
we scored like in the fourth quarter, we put a
puts up in the fourth quarter with rush you know,
doing whatever. But they scored twenty three points in the
second half of that game that would have been enough
to win. That doesn't even count what they did the
first half. Like Nate Hackett's worst performance or whatever, you
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know whatever. You you just keep Payton targets on your guys,
And I'm like, I wouldn't like that.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I wouldn't like it if my coach was out there
doing that.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You want, you want confidence in us, you you experiened
the confidence.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Probably we want to sneak up on people.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't want to sit there and create a you know,
an out there controversy where these guys are going to
rally around their crap offensive coordinator and turn around and
put on a shelf. The one game they got scheded,
the one game they got circled. All year, the shots
offense showed up.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
For So you don't have a problem with him believing this.
You just have a play problem with him saying that
out loud.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, that's where it is.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I don't care it Wilson.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Wilson was their quarterback in that game.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But when I'm okay with my coach thinking it, Hell,
I'm okay with you Max.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
He's saying right, because now.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Both of us own the line players when you go
out there play and the coaches on the line at
the same time. It's not just the players by themselves.
And look, I've been around some great coaches like wayde
Phillips didn't pop off.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
He didn't he didn't talk.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That was his thing. Mike Sanahan didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Bill Parcells had his unique way of doing it right,
and sometimes even calling you out.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
In the media by your name. But that's his own play.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He's not He's not sitting there painting the target by
firing up that gassing up the other team said hey,
you know, well, we'd probably cruise past the number one
seat anyway.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
You know, whatever is thee see Parcels is not going
to just paint it on the team. He's going to
paint it on you specifically, right right, So everyone knows, well,
Nick Ferguson was tripping last game. So if he doesn't
go out there and show and prove against Cleveland, some's
gonna happen. And it may happen right as you walking
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off the field. Now, if that don't motivates you, I
don't know what will.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
And I could tell you a young Mick Ferguson was
holy motive. They yeah, I'm just saying like he's motive.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Coach, he'd done that in the media. If your coach
had called that, I said, yeah, we probably would have.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know, you're the worst You're the worst seed to
make the playoffs, and you're exhibiting at your endseason press
conference a confidence that you were going to beat the
number one seed in the playoffs when you hadn't showed
a propensity to beat.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Over five hundred teams all year.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Well, he's putting a lot of pressure on himself in
he just opened the door twenty five.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Is there any pressure on him at all? He's making
eighteen million a year. Is there pressure on him?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Well, he just put it on himself in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I guess the clock starts now and he can shut
me up next season, Brocos Country.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Night'd be back in a minute.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I was trying to get him a little pick up.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But there our Boston was in here.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Dave Temper during the break, not the owner of the
Carolina Panthers, but you should definitely tweet him like he
is h on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I was trying to get him stick around for the
pick him.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Man, he was, man wants to be cracked over the mics.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
He just he would have run it for it. It
would run, duck and run. Man. He just he couldn't
handle heat. I guess there we go.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, he's now he's back. Pull us this minute of
you pick him.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Let's try to get you to stick around. There we go.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Now we got it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You're micro while working there.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, all right, we got Dave Texans, the owner of
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's right, that's right. You know, definitely seem like he
is has been over for a minute.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I'll get your time.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh my goodness, give me a little pick them here,
that's the visual round pick them.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I think you know how to handle this second. You
have to see you there we go. Okay, so we
got this. We'll start off with the easy one. Texans.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'm a listener at the long time listener, first time
Texans at the Kansas City Chiefs. I think everybody in
the country wants to Chief to lose this one, but
they are heavily favored here.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I believe it's eight and a half points. Stroud to
give mix it a hole on the left side, first.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Down and more hand side the ten hand side, the
five driving to the pylon on the left sideline and
it's a touchdown. But Houston Texans have just put the cherry.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
On top and the snap back to throw Mahomes rolling
right looking down field, lets it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Fly to the in zone line open.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Travis Kelsey has a touchdown Kansas City.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
It's a twelve yard score and Kelsey dunk the football
on the colpost.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's a Christmas Day score. For Kelsey and the Chiefs.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
I had to go back a minute to get a
Chiefs highlight, and yeah, there's calls courtesy of Westwood One,
Kevin Coogler and JP Shadrick. I like the Chiefs, but
I don't know about the eight and a half points.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, that's a that's a tough ask right there, although
I think they can cover.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I thought it was funny this week with Dana Rolofski
got on there instead of the chief.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Three peat that Travis Kelsey could retire.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So Travis just showed up to help dan Orlowski tire
retire from being an analyst. You guys see that bit.
It's some paperwork that if they three peated, he's gonna
retire from being an analyst. I didn't played the highlight.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Of dan Orlowsky right out the back of the end
zone and all that kind of It was great, all
of all the above. Kansas City to win this. Kansas
City's had a month to rest.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You give Andy Reid more than two weeks to game
plan anybody, and it's it's gonna be it's gonna be rough.
He's got one of the best records with multiple weeks
to prepare for somebody at all time.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I love the city. I look Kansas City in the eight.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And a half.
Speaker 11 (19:02):
It's funny this time of the year, it feels like
these past couple of seasons, it just people like to
start picking against the Chiefs. And I'm not one of
those people. I mean, you got fifteen there, I will
ride that likely. I mean until he's just out, and
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
I'm not a big believer in Houston.
Speaker 11 (19:21):
I think they beat a Chargers team that just I
don't know, that was a really ugly performance there by Guerta.
So I still think the Texans' most recent body of
work has not been very impressive, and I think that
Kansas City defense is still very real and fifteen is
more than real. So I'm very comfortable with case here.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I'm gonna go with Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
And one of the reasons I'm going to go with
Kansas City is some of what what Dave said. But
the biggest thing is Joe Mixon, who has been kind
of the guy that uplifted c J.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Straut. He has an ink injury.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
He ran for one hundred and six yards against the
Chargers the week before. If he is not in the game,
that changes everything. As far as play action and Nico
Collins down a field. So once again, I hate to
say it, but fifteen moves on.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So, by the way, this is the most heavily bet
game of the week, almost forty percent more bets on
this game than any other game going on. It's fifty
five percent of the bets are on Kansas City fifty
one percent.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Of the money.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So the public's pretty close on that eight and a
half spread. But it is one of the most heavy
bet games.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Of the week.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Commanders and our Commander in Chief Dan Quinn against the
Dead Dwight Lions.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Fourth and two to five. They can get a first down.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
He's standing in the pocket as the statue.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
He whips it into the end zone. It's a touchdown.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
McLaurin in the middle of the end zone. Terry McLaurin
comes up enormous for the Commanders. Two to the right
for Golf for that shimmering gray helmet. He takes the staff,
he throws it far aside, Bell pets it back.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Off the catch. Well Yams running down the sidelined.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Another trick play for the Lions. The circus travels.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's a touchdown. James and Williams.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Those calls courtesy of Jason Bennetti with Westwood One, and
I'm rooting for our guy coach Bagano, but I think
their glorious season comes to an end this week.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Look a lot of Dan on Dan crime Here is
Dan Campbell takes on Dan Quinn. Nine and a half
points spread, biggest spread of the weekend. Fifty three percent
of bets are on the Commanders with that nine and
a half, but only fifty one percent of money.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Again, pretty tight on this one as well.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I look, Carrick Goff is the best quarterback in the
NFL thrown against man coverage. The Washington Commanders run man
coverage more than anybody else. I love the Commanders, but
I don't like him in this one. Give me Detroit
to win, Give me the Commanders to cover the gim
me Detroit to win.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
I like the Commanders to cover here too. I mean,
Jane Daniels is fun. He does not seem to have
fear very much. I don't think that Washington defense is terrible,
but if they're not good enough to go out and
and beat Detroit, had just been on a roll all year.
We went out last year, yea to that Saturday night
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game where they took the Broncos heads off right, and
that place is loud, loud, like can you watch it
and you go looks love that place. We can say
first hand that was a Saturday night regular season game
that town. That roof is ready to come off. And
do they get David Montgomery back this weekend? Potentially it's
looking that way. That's still home, but it's looking that way.
(22:30):
More of the reasons to like Detroit. But it wouldn't
be surprised if Washington makes this interesting loudest.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Indoor stadium I've ever been into for a game. Loudest
was that game loudest indoor state. By the way, both
these teams the most aggressive teams on fourth down. Maybe
they make the punters inactive and we just see four
out football games come down.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Me being a former defensive player in safety, I love
those tightan nine to seven types of games. And the
fact that David Montgomery could be making his return and
no one Zamere Gibbs like last game, I think, boyd
rustling touchdowns that dude, it's sensation.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
You put that tandem together.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
And knowing as though Dan Quinn and John Bogono all
season long, they've struggled defensively against the run, and my
biggest concern for Detroit Lions fans.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
If you keep the game tight.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
We've seen Jayde Daniels move the ball down a position
and put his team in a position to score. But
I'm thinking that the lines are gonna play keep away
and they're gonna do something that most teams need to
do in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Run the freaking ball. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I expect them to try to keep the ball out
of the hands of Washington and try to keep it
up two scores late, because we've seen what Jayden Daniels
of Washington Magic has done.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
All year with those last minutes scoring drives. Third game,
Rams at the Philadelphia.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
Eagles shotgun snapped the stafford on first in ten shot
on till at to ten pop spinning past the five
in put a touchdown, says Allen, puck that ball outside
the hashmark on a spin the bell, tight grab and
the run and a touchdown for the Rams.
Speaker 10 (23:59):
Suck it down the ball spot at the eleven yard line,
thefta smith, the motion, the kurts out of the gun.
We'll play for the first time, dancing of the hockey
pulls back to the twenty six, looks toward the end zone,
fires toward the back of the en zone.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Come touchdown, Eagles. Johan Dotson.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
He said he would make an impact, and he makes
an impact right out.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Of the gate.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Knows calls courtesy of Kevin Harlan and Tom McCarthy with.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Westwood One and Man.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
I like the Rams to ride the momentum in this
when Jalen Hurts still doesn't quite look like himself coming
off that concussion, I think the Rams pull off the upset.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Philadelphia's gonna boat race the Rams.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Matt Stafford is one in eight in games where it's
thirty two degrees or less and or snowing, it is
expected to be snowing eighty five percent chance of snow
and Philly and a thirty degree kickoff Taphir twenty eight
to thirty degree temperature and kickoff. Matt Stafford, for all
that he does, is terrible in the cold. I love
Philadelphia in this one. I like Philly to boat race him.
I love him to cover the six. This is the
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least bet game of the week, by the way. Least
that game of the week twenty three percent, about sixty
seven percent of money.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I agree with young Grant Smith there. But I'm going
out on a limb and saying Philly boat racism.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I like Philly to be the NFC rep in the
Super Bowl too.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
Yeah, I like Philly here. I didn't know those stats
about Stafford. So you were saying that on kaa sports
there that is not good, that that weather works looks
terrible out there. I'm not as convinced that the Rams
are as good as what we saw last week. I
felt like that was a little more of a situation
of mentor beating pupil with McVeigh there and O'Connell, and
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so I'm not entirely sold that team's good enough to
go on the road in that in that weather and.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
And get it get it done.
Speaker 11 (25:42):
Vic Fangio has been terrific as a defensive coordinator out there.
I like Philly by double digits O double digits.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Yeah wait wait listen, I'm going to big Philly, but
I was going by by double dientis wow.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Mister Jimmy like a grand smithspect.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
That's fascinating that you tossed that out there. It would
be great to see, but I look at it this way. Actually,
wouldn't it wouldn't be a good game. Well, look, AJ
Brown last week had to sit on the sideline to
read a book.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
The Combine.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yes, yes, he's trying to find that author was a
practice today for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, the author of that book was today, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Was book sales went from the bottom of the books
to the top of Amazon, so I'm sure he was.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
But for me, it's.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
About run game in cold weather and sa Kwan Barkley
has been sensational all season long.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Seam, are you sitting the.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Theme here in the league?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
In the in the league where they devalue the quote
the running back position, All the running backs are going
to help uplift their teams. So Philly wins. I don't
know what double digits, but Philly Willis's. I could see
that thing finishing up by ten. However, it seems like
one of those things where AJ Brown would have.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
A big game.
Speaker 11 (26:59):
I rememberland out in New Orleans. Nothing then comes back
and ben and as a game. That wouldn't shock.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Me either, because I don't even trust I don't trust
the Rams. Secondary just be totally honest, and you got
down his goddard.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's a yoga defense.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
He and Smith come on man, Nick.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
What did you say last week when I was filling
in with you? The playoffs are where names are made.
We're going to make your name in the playoffs. What
this RAM secondary is gonna do well?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Rams defensive cooridator Chris Schuley got some eyebrows raised with
what they did against Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, but I don't Philly's a whole different animal. I
don't like.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
That.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, that's putting Ben in right now?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Is I'm just kidding David awake here, or at least
most people. Game of the Week the Baltimore Ravens taking
on the Buffalo Bills and the Battle of.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Free boat race, the Broncos Lamar and the Shotgun.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Here's the snap.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Jackson will hand it off to Henry up the middle,
big hole, thirty twenty.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Five down to the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown Ravens
Derek Henry second touchdown r than I first thing up the.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Middle for forty four.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
This is snat hand off.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
The cook coming on the left side, carts through a
hole forty thirty five thirty and.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
There he goes. They're not gonna get him.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
James Tuck is going forty six yards for the touchdown,
the tuck is in.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
The kitchen again.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Love that call from Chris Brown with WGR and the
other call for the Ravens Westwood One's Ryan Rakey and
I played those running clips there because to next point,
I think both these quarterbacks are top notch. We obviously
know that first time the top two MVP candidates going
against each other since Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. I
think it's King Henry lifting the load for the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I like the Ravens to win this game on the road.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
This one's started off Buffalo Bills one and a half
point favorites. Now they're a one point dog and home
bud fifty six percent of its fifty four percent of
money on Buffalo in this one. I like the Bills
at home. This is gonna be a cold, cold game.
Could be the negative temperatures with the wind chill. I
don't like Lamar Jackson in the cold. The numbers are
not as bad as Matt Stafford, but they aren't great
in the cold for Lamar Jackson. I just like the
(29:07):
Bills having the home field advantage, having the cold weather advantage, and.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I feel like Buffalo is going to do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That they did, or at least attempt to do the
same thing they did to Denver, which puts six to
seven offensive linemen in there at a time.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And try and go downhill with eight minute drives.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Keep your defense fresh and on the sideline because you're
going to need it in the fourth quarter against Derrick Henry.
Speaker 11 (29:25):
Yeah, this is a tough one in a pleasant way.
This is a great matchup, as we all know. I
do like Baltimore here, just based on who I believe
is the best running back in.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Our lifetime possibly.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
I mean, that fella is no joke and is such
a joy to watch him punish. And the Ravens defense,
while it's not great against the pass, it still has
improved significantly as the season has gone on, and Lamar
has certainly been on one interesting though I didn't realize
him in cold weather was a bit of an issue.
(30:03):
But now Derrick Henry and that Ravens defense I think
will be enough.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You know what, Ben, I know you talked about Lamar
Jackson and the cold weather, but guess what, he can
run the damn football, and so can Derrick Henry six
to two hundred and forty seven pounds, and he's coming downhill.
The last time they've played the Bills, he rushed for
one ninety nine against Pittsburgh a week ago.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
One eighty eight.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You think they're gonna change the game plan, Todd Munkin
is not playing around. They're trying to run their way
all the way to the super Bowl in New Orleans.
And then we know how you know your experience with
running backs coming downhill.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
That's what's gonna be for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's gonna look like guys like me, guy Derick Henry
out there like a look about by side.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Will you trust DeMar Hamlin one on one with Derrick Henry? Yes?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Man, I say this, Normally I would say no, But
I'll say the most the bravest thing I ever saw
was when Derek Henry and the Tennessee Titans came here
to Denver and I saw Derek Henry around the corner
and Bryce Callahan, who is literally myself.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That's the same player wearing enough it took him down.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
That's not the same player. They're they're not lying, They're
not the same. I'm been rippon for I'm a man.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
You guys all know this, But what if I were
I'll put my money on Derrick Henry to win that
particular battle.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Bills are fourteen and two under Sean McDermott with the
temperatures out of thirty two degrees. Lamar Jackson's played two
games where the temperature has been colder than twenty seven
degrees and he's won and more two games in his
career below twenty seven degrees.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Oh wow, and that called hits different up and different.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Guess what you know what?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And the oldest game ever played it was twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Well in those games, guess what he didn't have.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
He didn't have a slis hammer and David Dinny, Yeah,
the oldest game Dereck Henry's ever played in twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
He gets different, I mean right there.
Speaker 11 (31:56):
And the Bill's defense has not has just not been
very very good.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
So no, now, man, talk with you about Derrek Henry.
Speaker 11 (32:05):
I'm about taking I believe it's they're on the field.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
There you go, and that's not you know what that's
like and have someone run through your chest.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
There's a difference between playing the Bills and playing the
Bills and the cold.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I'm just saying there's a Baltimore is saying the Phoenix.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
It's there's something.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, every games ever played in his career was twenty
five degrees in his career.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It's going to be negative eight. Bruffalo Bills have extensive
experience playing in this kind of weather.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Turn around and hand the ball off.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Enough, said Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Is one game in the twenties twenty two degrees one.
The guys, they're not I mean telling you this is
like Bart Scott popping viagara cold.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
No, you know what you guys remember that? Do you
know what I'm talking about? I still exactly what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
I still remember this Bart Scott, I don't get.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
The blood flow and you should pops the viagara before
the game. Oh wow, I said this on television.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Telling me.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
Yeah, it's all guys that Papa Papolo blue pills that.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Yeah, that's a whole different level win.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
She'll Winshill is supposed to be. It could be negative
eight in this game. Negative eight.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
That weather speaks run the ball and who has a
better run game?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Biods are fourteen and two with Josh Allen on thirty
two degrees.
Speaker 11 (33:19):
Okay, look, man, this is not a game that I
would touch with a nickel of mine when it comes
to money.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I mean, that is a hard one to call. I mean,
I'm not as.
Speaker 11 (33:28):
Confident as I am as I feel like for the Eagles,
for example, But I do I this time of the year,
run the ball. Who's got the better defense, Both quarterbacks
clearly a couple of the best. Still, I still think
Baltimore is just going to find you find find their way.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
But I wouldn't. I don't.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
It's not like the confidence level is sky high either,
because Josh Allen is such a game changer as well.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
All Right, Buffalo wins.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm coming in here on Monday, and I've spent the
gallon of Martinelli's from each on you.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm just saying, Broncos Country might be back weeks.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
What do we get Yeah, wait,
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