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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The whole finger seat Waters actually years back there producing
five six six nine heroes.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Text on you guys would get involved in the conversation. Oh,
it's been an interesting day. It has been an interesting week.
I guess we haven't had a whole lot of whole
full live.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Shows uh here, but we get a full live show
here tonight, or at least up until eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What's been going on?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We had the presidential dress, we had Rocky Spaceball, see
you bust basketball.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We just had a lot of stuff going on, so
it spit. I don't even seen Nick. I don't even
think I've been on the air with Nick, but like
maybe one time since the combine. Yeah, that's absolutely at all.
The last time I saw you was before INDI.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, it was before Indy, and then after you came back.
Ryan was in studio because yeah, Ryan was sick, right,
and then yeah that's what I.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Started last and we were passing because Bree filled in
for me, because I filled in for Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We had to end of the show, and like since
before the combine, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Steve getting rid did jet set all over the universe here, No,
don't you got a vacation coming up like Hawhi or something.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, I got on the trip playing. I'm trying. I'm
not trying to get away spot. You know what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to bow up you spot. Yeah, anybody
come buy my house? Trying to coil him out of house,
trying to try to heal me up. Well, no, you
got a.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
House sitteror there, Like I'm gonna go houseit for you.
So I'm saying, I ain't nothing could cover Robbie. Man,
I got gonna let that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You see what you see what's on these days?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Like he just wait till these athletes go on road
trip games and then they're busting up. And then Joe
Burrow gets popped for seeing that other girl who was
staying at his house. She's wanted called it in. I
guarantee you I don't have that going on. Man, I
will never I'm gonna put him on blast real quick.
I'll never forget. We had to do a remember who
we did the remote at the Mattress store. Yes, Nick
(01:49):
and I had to do a promoter a Saturday at
a Mattress Ye, the Broncos event.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know a bunch of a bunch of you guys
down there and the alumni.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Downer and all that kind of stuff, and Rod Smith
was down and they were showing them like the new
features on the mattresses and this one mattress like it'll
save to your settings and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I'll talk to you like, no, no, that's will
get me in trouble man mattress and I wus you're
like Stacey or Tamya setting let's go get yours.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh it's mattresses out here trying to try to catch somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was really interesting because I was asking the guy
to kind of break down the details of the mattress
and I'm like, well, it's just a mattress.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You don't need all these bells and whistles.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And he was talking about one side is cool and
then the other you can raise the other side and
then you can kind of connect it with your phone.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And that's when Rob's is like, yeah, mem yes, forget
something like let's try to try to try to have
a player up. I'm just saying I know about smartphones,
but you don't want a smart bed. Yeah, I don't
tell the sales I was like, I need the dumbest mattress. Possible,
(02:59):
I looks rod Man. Do you know Roddy? It was
a text line. Now it's been fascinating.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We're getting on the eve of free agency, and I
wanted to talk to both of you guys about that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You were a free agent when you signed with the Jets. Correct, Yes?
Uh was that fair? I guess I was free when
you get cut? You so you went through the.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Free agency process. Once you went through the free agent process,
was nick You went through the free aging process a
little bit as well.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That was the first time in my life. Well I
know you, like, yeah, it was the only time your life.
You were not making a team.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Even with my my freshman year in high school when
I was terrible in.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Basketball, I still made the team. Were you tall, like
the tall No? Man, I was slim, skinny, I was sure.
I was short. I was about what five five seven five?
Ages a dribble? No, I couldn't do it. I was terrible.
I mean, you need the same thing for me, but
it was more of a cool thing.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So you had no heighten no no height, no hops,
no hand Tell me, at least you can defense.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I okay, but it wasn't great because I was a
football player. You know, football and basketball are two different sports.
Basketball actually helped me be a better.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Football player because in footwork. Yes, because of the footwork. Okay,
did you follow the lot in basketball at the beginning?
What position they play you at? Because they don't football
players go and play basketball on the defensive side forwards.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
When I was when I was younger, early when I
first started, Hey, I couldn't dribble, so I couldn't play guard.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, so they put you down being forward, and I was, but.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I wasn't too I wasn't too tall either, so but
none of us were that's tall at that age anyway.
But but anyway, that was that was the time where
I probably should have gotten cut, but I didn't get cut,
and then I got cut.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It into my career. Man, well I'm just ma, you
signed all the other team, you know. And that's what
I was trying to get at, is how stressful is
it for for you got?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
How stressful is it for players wondering about that kind
of like is somebody coming or these offers coming?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know, that kind of thing out?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
How difficult is it because we don't see this from
the we don't get the humanity side of it. You
know with the fans that everybring on Twitter, look at
all I want this guy and this guy and this guy.
I don't know what that guy he's fought, you know,
that kind of stuff. But there's a there's a human
element to this. It is difficult because what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Sometimes you'll watch as free agency starts to open up.
You know, whether you're going to be that first day guy, right,
because that's when every team wants to kind of get
the splash guy, that's the name guy. But then once
you move past that second and that third day, you
started to get a little concern.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And then that three days turned into a week.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So we can have and you're constantly watching the four
letter network ticker trying to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
How they sign that guy?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm right here, yeah, Like, well problem, why did they
sign that guy to that deal? Did they not take
pay attention to what I did the year before? Well?
Majority of the times, man, it really comes down to
those particular scouts and the teams and how they value
you based on what they need.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But also too, the other element of it is, well
how many years of experience do you have?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Because obviously, if a team could go in and get
you know, a guy who's a third year player and
they can pay him less money.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They're willing to do that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Ye, yes, because they know your salary may be like
starting at a million dollars and maybe they don't don't
want to go that way. But I've seen I've been
in the situation twice where teams have opted for younger
players thinking they're going to get that same level of production,
only to find out.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They need a poor decision.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Because normally if you haven't played by year three or
year four, it's a good chance that's a reason, even
if you're on a good team, find a way to
get you in the game. Any think that reason is
by that third year you missed something.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
And two it is not even four him, that's what's happening,
something that the maths not mathing.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, it's I mean, and that is what I saying.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Generally, you don't see people have breakouts in their careers
a half decade in.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, you know, it's just not that this it happens,
but it's very very rare.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I think that, uh, this probably this free agency process
is it just sort of fascinates me from the like,
you know, the human interest side, of it, though, is
because you know there is a sense of pride in
what you've thought and you look at this, and in
baseball you can sort of replace players in the aggregate.
We've seen the Moneyball movie where you know they're like, Okay,
I'm gonna bringing these three guys and that will replace
the production.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That I you can't do that. It doesn't work. We
had coach Pagano.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
When you're talking about that, remember they let uh, what
was it, Darren Sproles when he was with the Charges
they bulls walk and they're like, oh, we're gonna replace
them with Ryan Williams and yeah, anybody remember Ryan Willams career?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Me either, So it's you know, they were going to
replace him with three other guys. We got this with these,
but it doesn't work in football like that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know what, I'll equate it to this for those
who are listening, It's like you go on a date
with the woman that you're really attractive to.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You're thinking that she is the one.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Everything on a date hit well, I mean conversation and everything,
and then now she doesn't call you back for like
two weeks, right, so nowend zone? Yes, yes, trust me,
one place you don't want to end up because I
almost ended.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Up there with my wife zone with your wife. Yes, oh,
we gotta get missus Ferguson in here. Yes, yes, this
sounds like a take it off for frantic Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So wait, so to be totally right.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When I was dating, I realized, okay, well I wanted
to get married, so I was dating two people at
the same time. Wait, hold on, hold up, wait wait, wait,
hold on for a second. It clears itself up. She
was because I'm trying. I was trying to decide what
I wanted to do. Now you're thinking they didn't know,
but they did, see See.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I told the truth. How would you have felt if
she would have been dating two people. That's part of
the game. I'm willing to deal with that. That was
part of the hustle.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And then I realized that she was my person because
I was in Los Angeles and I was at dinner
with this young lady and she was talking and then
all of a sudden, her voice went to the Charlie
Brown voice, and I was like, and I was like,
and I started thinking, well, what is my wife doing
in Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I was liked, oh did she hear me? And I
was like, I know I need to do, so I left. No,
I wasn't your future wife.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So bro I left Los Angeles, came back to Denver,
made a deal with rich student.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Who was our special who was our.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Strength, the conditioning coach, to say that listen, I'll work
out every day Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Right, And he said, well,
whatever workout I give you on that Thursday, you do
what I asked you to do. And I did that
so I can go to Atlanta to knock on her door.
It took me about two to three months to get
o the friend zone. Right. That took me to.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Friends on you because you were seeing someone else. Well, no,
she friends on me because I was taken too long.
I was taking too long.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And my idea was like I had to go through
that to figure out where I was going to be,
who was best for me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And when I figured it out, it was a little
too late. And I remember what I too. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I remember when I went to Atlanta and I knocked
on her door. I'm so proud.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I was like, yeah, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
She opened the door slightly and she didn't offer me
to come in, right, And I was like wait a minute,
And I had to put my face up off the
floor and put it back on because I was like,
I just got shut down. I just got shut down, right,
(10:49):
He's right, He's right, I got I got shut down.
And that's exactly what it's like to be a free
agent wanting a design to be on the team.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And then the call stop. Yeah, they stop, and it's
like you can call whomever you want in the league.
Oh yeah, listen with them, call stop. Yes, when everyone
started picking up phones. Do you think your agent has
something to do with it?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You think is one hundred percent on you as a player. Well, well,
that's both.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
My job as a player is to go out and perform.
My agent's job is to go out and try to
find the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's eighty twenty. It's eighty percent the player playing, twenty
percent the agent finding you.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
The the Lanti spot and working those connections. I mean,
in my opinion, you know, my extensive experience in the
league obviously.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
To say though talking to agent, but I do talk
to a ton of agents, and I will say, like
I can tell the bad ones.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Because they're lazy, right, Like they got clients that could
have an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But but see that's the problem because when guys are
signing them with agents out of college, you have to
be careful because you're trying to go with maybe Drew Rosenhaus,
but you have to answer yourself, how many.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Players is on his roster?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, does Drew have my best interests of life, tend
safeties on the roster?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Already? I'm not his number one, and what the thing
is all?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
But you also gotta look at what kind of team
does have, what kind of he may have? You know, well, yeah,
you got seven people or who who for he can
get the important stuff done.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I've seen really effective agents who operate like that.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Now I've seen some who try to do it all
themselves and try to take on you know, twenty you
can't do it really.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Know about I'll tell you this, Drew Rosenhaus has done
well for himself, and he has a lot of individuals
on his team.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But here's what I also know about Drew.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Drew goes after a lot of those guys who are
projected to be first rounders. So if you're not a
projected first round of god, he may not be your
He may not be your guy because all those guys
on their merita being projected first rounders, they don't get drafted.
But what if you're one of those Day two, Day
three guys?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Could you get lost in the shuffle?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, and particularly those because eighty percent of the players
belong to one of six agents.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Honestly, like what.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Happens he is the smaller the guys like you know,
you'll get drafted later or undrafted. Uh, you sign with
an agent and you'll get your rookie deal now because
the rookie deals are slotted. And then as you you
become a starter, you get good, then they poach you.
They try to come poach you with you know, advertising guarantees. See,
that's where you have a little more say so as
(13:18):
a player because all.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Those agencies that wouldn't sign you when you perceived as being,
you know, just that third round guy, free agent guy.
You play yourself into a brand where people now know you.
Now they start coming to you and you say, you
know what, you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Don't want to holler, yeah, you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Hoilight me there, you don't want to hold on ale,
I'm not gonna give it to you whatever exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
So what happens to the guys who don't play up
to their potential, you know, they they don't get the
opportunities to be on the field as much as they
would like. And then do they just fade into the back?
I mean, what all depends and when you drift. If
you get drafted in round one or two, you're usually
going to get a second chance somewhere, like somebody's gonna
give you a second shot.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Three, four, five, No, man, you're done pretty much getting
latched on in the camp and ball out.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well, how long would you say players have if you're
not a first second rounder to prove that you belong
to every year.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You got your first year to show you belong on
the roster somewhere or the practice squad. You got your
second year to show you made the jump and you're
ready to play. If you're after that, you're toast. If
you drafted, you got three and that's I mean your
first year, second year is by your third camp, you
don't have.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It, see you, you know you might not even last
that long anymore. Look at the quarter Josh Rosen got
moved on after one year in Arizona. Remember that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, see see there's a lot that went into why
Josh Rosen Dinton Seed, right, and I said, we can
say that about a lot of quarterbacks because everyone is
quite the thrown. Well he's a bus because if he's
drafted the first round, well did he go to the
right team.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
In the case of Josh.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Rosen, he was even set up from for failure from
the jump because they Arizona ounted him and Steve Wilkes,
who was taking over the job for the first time,
and Wilkes had a rookie quarterback, almost like what happened
to Draw May.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There was no.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Patience, right, So so teams bailed on players entirely too soon,
and they blame it all on the player, but they
didn't give that player, especially from a quarterback standpoint, You.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Didn't give him a supporting cast Organizationally, they cannot be supported.
There are some organizations that do a really good job
with with coaches and players and having more patients than others.
The Steelers, you know, obviously, with you know, with my
com a ton of patients. I have kind of applauded
the Giants for keeping dable in Shane one more year.
Give him a chance to turn it around.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's a problem one.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wait, I don't agree with you on that because John
marratau Joe saying, hey, listen, Saquon Barkley is the most
popular player.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm with all him to his face.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm not saying they have no mistakes and I'm not
saying they're gonna do it. I'm saying organizational. He say
Daniel Jones, and let's say Kuon Barkley, Well, now you
got Daniel Joes in.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Minnesota is a third stringer.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Saquon Barkley's winning the Super Bowl hop it over people
looking like a Mario brother.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
He did Taquana though I let him go. He was
not gonna be able to.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Hold on the sa Quon anyway because Saquon had already
told him.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
What his number was and Joe Shane was unwilling to and.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Get to that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You don't think he did Barkley solid.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, if he wanted to do Saquona solid, he would
have gave Saquon the deal that sa Quon now has
with the Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And would have Super Bowl ring either. Probably wouldn't, but
he wouldn't. But Mara told him.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
He was like, look, I don't think I would be
able to sleep at night if sa Quon joined Philadelphia
what dend up happening with in Philadelphia. He rushed for
over two thousand yards and he won a Super Bowl
and he's still on the division and he got the
money that he wanted.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Come on, man, how did he get I'm confused? What
solid did he do him?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
He was he had to sign him or let him go,
like it wasn't gonna do a franchise, tag him, let
him go.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I mean in the end that is that worked out
favorably for Saquon. I mean you know that the Giants
get nothing out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Saquon Barkley goes on and gets the Super Bowl and
a huge contract. Yeah, thank you, man appreciated and tonus
of motivations to show off on Giants games, those Giants fans.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And now you're watching, Now you're watching the Giants.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
See.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Though, as much as I applaud them for having the
patience to give one more year to dig themselves out,
the problem is is now those guys realize you're getting fired.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Right, they know what they're gonna do. They're gonna go
sign Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They try to offer him a truckload of money, trying
to trade up to.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
One to get camb Ward at the same time, because
they recognize if this works out, we get to stay
and we'll figure out all the money and draft.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
If it doesn't work, is that gonna work, then we
set the organization bag and we're not gonna be here anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Is that gonna work? Here's another thing Shane did.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He went to one of his players, I think Nick McCleod,
right before the game one of their games, and asked
him to take a reduction in his salary.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Before a game. Who does that? I've never heard of that,
and you keep your job well. He told him to
stop paying rent because he's getting cut.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He went to Nick mcclough and told him to stop
paying his rent because he was getting cut.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know the game can be cut through, but come on.
He told him to take a pay cut during the season.
It right before a game, and.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I don't know how the Giants survived this. No matter
who they draft, things they're they're things are not going
to change for them.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, per Giants players. I got the quote.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Shane told McLeod's agent, don't pay October's rent. As soon
as I can replace him, I'm going to replace him.
I'm not bleeping around and hung up the phone.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well how did you get to that point? Well that's
something we can talk about on the other side. Rocks
cut your night back after this all the if I
used the CD player in my car? Have you ever
even seen a GD like you're so young, CD jo,
I'm relevant. This is my grandparents Clisard. I don't know
(19:13):
nothing about the VCR. Yeah, I don't know. That's talking
about the disc change her too. I remember when you
had one. You had to hit the button on one
in there.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I got one for you, Zach. I know you've never
seen a track, yeah like that. My dad still has
eight tracks. He's got like a big case of like sixteen,
like one of the pup he's gonna pull out of the.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
H safe. It's huge, right because I'm not remember concept.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Eight track was a little bit before it, but I remember,
you know, because then you're like you listen to radio
and you wait for a song to come on and
you pamer the record, but you hope the DJ would
shut up and not talk to the intro, you know,
and then you're like trying to write the you know,
because you had to name your huge ni nineteen eighty seven,
make a nicked jam. You're whipping it down the side
because there's not enough room to write the thing. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
She's like, you know what into saying this right?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Because he used to run to the cassette player like
they do that, that that nine o'clock smash.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Up and he's trying to get that song. We knew
this should drop on the home the song. How about
the DJs? How do you want Tony Terrell talking about
the quiet story on the song?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He did that right because he was making a mixtape
to get to a young lady. That's what he's doing. Yes, yeah,
I know where it Ben's going with. I might have
been getting new songs for the band. I don't know.
You want to say, so you've been there. I didn't know.
That's how I know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You run it. You run it for the for the
paper in the corner, the corn on them, that's the goal.
You got that that Friday night midstape.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, and you wanted it where you were not when
was recording for the taping.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
There he got right on the time and you're sitting
the whole time. You tell the DJ to shut up,
just shut and talking he's like, he's like, they got
the intro music started to play, right.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He said, cause Tony Terrell chust stole on Power Neggy two. Yeah,
Zach Singer's sitting back to some shues and I don't know,
he said, go DJ, he knows DJ Kalendar have another one.
You don't even know what I'm talking about. Yeah, the
(21:15):
modern equivalent is the Spotify AI.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Spotify stuff you already have, Like you don't know the pain, Well,
you can find any song you wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Question, you don't know the pain to sit there for
three hours, he's coming soon. We got to pray a
new Bobby Brown coming soon.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Three hours waiting for that thing. And if you ever
wanted to be a DJ, you had to have records
and be able to.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, you don't even know what we're talking about. Then
I know some final. I know some final make jokes
about me being able to grow facial hair. You're able
to go facial hair, then sit there talking about not
as well as you. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, he's a
month of girlfriend here. See that's Thursday throwback for for
for you listeners and for you Zach Thursday threw back
(21:59):
the I don't go.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Five six six Textaw, we had a couple of couple
of good texts come in our water's right, saque was.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Done right by the GM letting him go. There you go, Steve?
Uh three six? Is my car came with a CD player?
I've never used it?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
With them iPod I mean it's years the car. Is
it a zoom zoom?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah? It done? Players? What's that?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, I can say I had a cat player? And
where was the last year a car came with a
cassette player? I want that's a that's a good turnyqu
I wonder when that was? Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That was Apple Play? Well, yeah, because they get to
the Bluetooth everything. Now, come on, why Apple Play? Why
can't it be Google Play? Well, I got Google Play.
It's YouTube music. I mean it's the same thing. Yeah,
it's just you know, it just depends on you got
a droid, well Google pixel. Yeah, let's just say you
just got a droid. Man, it's not a druid. It's
the same to Android, is operatings just it is Troy
(22:59):
a right, man, you said, what was it? Exactly?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
The last car in the US with a factory installed
cassette player was the twenty ten Lexus s C four thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So it's been fifteen years since a car came off
the assembly line with a cassette player?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Technology, What about the disc? What about the what they
still make? You think the CD is still in production?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I think you got like sometimes you gotta pay for it,
but most of them still have. You still have the
CD player, the option for the CD player.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Do you even sales CITs anymore? I don't know. Must
think any record stores.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
If you go to record stores, they'll have that other
hard media, like they'll have VHS tapes, they'll have CD's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Been to a record store? Yeah, okay, all right, I
got I got well told you in the past month,
I got I got one for you that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Do you know what a microfiche is? There?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You go?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
You know that is you do a decimal systems like
a plankton. They never go look up newspaper articles that
the micro fish. Yeah in the library, yes, in the library.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yes. Now, no, you couldn't do that. You had to
go in there, your page by page and look through
it like a minnow like a guppy Michael fish dad joke.
You just dated yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yes, it did.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Shut your mind. I'm gonna kick you out of the conversation. Yeah,
like a guppy, get out of you. They just tack. Now,
got over.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I gotta be crack in the first sem I'm good
like I just like every time comes he's getting cracked.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
One time, I gotta be cracking the first segment. I'm good.
I had to bust out to R. Kelly. But whatever,
I'm on the CD point topically.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Actually, the Super U Outback Touring and Touring Next Tea
are expected to be the last new cars sold with
standard CD players in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh so this year they get rid of set rid
of them. Okay, movies, they're out there. You go now,
you know, I don't need to do it, Like, how
has anymore? Man? What wait, I'm trying to pick up
on what to say. You know, everybody get all upset
(25:14):
and come on. The show's officially gone off the road.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Today.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
This is what this is what we do on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Man, got right, because we got We've got Ryan Michael
coming up top of the hour.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
So it's gonna be we'll get to talk a little
bit of uh pro football fame, talk about how he's
doing over there in the European League of Football now
because he's he's back over there with the belief of
Prague doing different over there.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I wonder if they got some merch because I am
in this solely for the free merchandise. So well he's
get to merch from Tim Jenkies.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yet, Hey a shirt from like ten years ago with
Jake's Elite.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Was one guy and we need on the show and
put him on glass. Yeah we still he's down here,
Parker right now. Okay, you're good. Yeah, as far as
I know, I talked to him in a couple week,
but okay, I need to something. I say, what up
he was? You know, Tim Jenkins? He was me, uh
well he was all of us submerged.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But he owes me a T shirt that I paid
for I bought when he first put the website up.
I was like, I almost support you man, all right?
Saw by a Jink's Elite long sleeved T shirt.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Never got it? You paid for it? Oh yeah, what
kind of friends that you have? Wow, Well we know
the guy. I'm gonna put him on blast right now.
That's why he's making money. That's off the T shirt.
Said to Oskin, he just run a car and not
get it to you when I get it to you.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, I loved him. We got ahead a traffic break
here at a minute. I want to get into a
couple of things. Is there any guess all the.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
News today DK metcalf explored a trade obviously there No,
that's that's a no for me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But I was just throwing it out there if you
even just missing in fact, the should the Broncos be
and have any interest in DK?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, he's a very talented player, but let's be
totally honest. There's only one route that DK runs. Well, yeah,
it was an eight and that's it. That's it. That's
It's kind of what I was what I was getting at.
He's really a bang nine guy. That's best pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
He struggles with kind of those intermediate routes and you
saw him late in the season last year kind.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Of giving up on some routes too.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Well, that's that's probably one of the reasons why they
want to move on him, because Jackson Smith and Jacoba
has definitely turned into receiver number one.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah. Now they already got rid of Tyle Lockett. They
already they already cut Tyle Lockett.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh wow, So I wonder if any of those guys
would possibly end up with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Obviously, Pete, Carroll, Pereworth, it did you whatever with Seattle,
come on down.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I wouldn't be surprised if if Pete and the Raiders
actually kicked the tires to see if they could pull
off a trade for DK, just to seem, not to
say that they would do it, but just to see,
you know, kind of what the numbers look like.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean, because the stuff that floated out today
was a first and a third rounder for DK, and
nobody's playing that.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Absolutely, nobody's sending the first and third rounder for DK.
That gap nine years in the league now six seven, eight,
somewhere in there. He's in the sixth to eight mark,
and he's he's been, you.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Know, pretty much an eight hundred yard receiver or I
mean he's just what six are six because he's not
a second video it's just six had six years.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, he's on a second sex here. So but I mean,
you know, he's he's he's a two route guy, you know,
and I know we saw in that third rounder. Yeah,
that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's where the conversation to me feels like two thirds
as would be would be the mark for him.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But they're asking a first and third. I know by
the way he wants a contract extension for thirty million
a year. Nah, I can't do it. It happens. So
in those cases, what you do you led teams with
players like that. He let him cut him first, or.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Let him go out there. You want to do the trade, fine,
go see your market. Of course that backfire is on
you if it's Matt Stafford. But you know the Rams
go seek a trade, and then they would scramble and
trying to try to get that done because the Raiders
were going to give him money.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
What's a couple of receivers that you guys would make
a trade for. Well, we'll answer that right when we
get back. Steve Attwater, young Zack Segers back there in
the glass man. That's height music man. He wasn't even
alive when the song was he came out. It's the
recognized good music. This song was retro when he was born.
(29:09):
He said, you know cool Jays like he's a great grandfather.
What is the what is the LL stand for? Put him?
He has no idea? He cool Jane, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That was one of the things like it was funny
because he was one of the first people that talked
about because you gotta ask why you switched to acting,
and he's like, man, there's nothing sadder than an aging hipster,
an aging rapper. And he's like, yeah, wow, he's still rapping, right,
well this we got into acting now. Also he's back
into rapid I guess or whatever, but you know, yeah
he was. And I was like, man, it's some true
to that though, Like you get to a certain point
(29:46):
and I don't know if you could still yeah, like
there was a point where.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You got the mc hammer and you're like, all right,
you gotta stop. Dude. He can't be Yeah, you can't
be fifty five years old about heart, you know about
I'm from the streets.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah, oh, if it's five, like it's time to some
dollars back a little bit, you grandpa?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Not right? Well, well, speaking of a grandpa.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
When you look at this year's upcoming wide receiver free agency,
what meaning that though there are a lot of receivers
out there, a lot of guys with seven years, guys
who are above twenty seven, you know it works for
us and twenty seven most of time you say, well,
all this is young, but in football years like dog years, right.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So if you were to look at you right your
prime right there? Yeah, you and your prime. But so well, yeah,
that's you get a contract. That's gonna be your big
money contract, then smaller contracts after that.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So we're seeing a lot of guys either asked for
trade or in the case in Seattle with Tyler Lockett,
the guy who was really productive in the first couple
of years of his career, he was saying practice. So
those guys are on the market. Davontae Adams is out
there as well. Is there a guy there's a veteran
guy that you think would fit with the coach of
the Broncos currently have.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
See I don't necessarily want them to bring in. I
like the young guys that they got.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I want to see Mims as soon as they figured
out he was on the roster ball he took off
last year.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Every game was better production, more improvement game after game.
I think Vele could be something. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I don't think people have the same conviction about the
bomb Bayley that I do. He's cold and he would
have been something last year if he hadn't got cracked.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Ribs early in the season. His workload would have been
a lot bigger.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
We have a very good receiving car, you know as
it is right now, and I know everybody wants to
see some improvements, and you know, you want to go
get a guy like this, a man from the from
UH Jets, No from UH Cincinnati, Higgins, but Higgins other one,
(31:40):
Jamar Chek, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Everybody wants to Jamar Chase. You know those guys don't
come around it off.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
But you just need to find guys that fit like
Meg Meg Hollands. Right, he doesn't sound like Okay, well
anything jumps off the page. Were watching Holland's last year
in Buffalo and the physicality that he brought. I was
nice from the wide receiver position. And it won't call
the Broncos that much money lower.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's what I'm saying. He said that dirty mix it up.
I mean, I say dirty, you know what I mean.
Though he's had great.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Like as a receiver. He said, dude, it would fit
what Sean Payton does a lot to go dig a safe.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yes, oh yeah, yeah, he's nice. That'd be a nice edition.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It wasn't in the big the big part of it
for me, veteran wide receiver. He comes in and helps
change the culture with the wide receiver room and also
the level of toughness that he brings to the room
that helps out.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
The run game.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And you don't really have to pay him an observant
amount of money, right I'm with I would.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Be okay with the signing on that level because that's
not going to cost you what what some of these
other guys. There's no need to go out and get
a crust Godwin, There's no need to go out and
try to try to get some of these other guys
that the fans. You know, the fans want the big name,
but the reality is are those guys a fit and
can they afford that?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
For me, Meg Hollands would be what the Broncos thought
that the Jordan Humphrey was going to be, which.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
By the way, I think litt Jord Humphrey is going
be moved to tight end. I think they're go move
him to the tight end room. No that that'll be
a better fit for him.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Let me know, Steve, I'm saying I would not like
to see that happen.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I think, you know, I think that he recognizes that
there's an economic reality here in terms of sticking around.
That tight end room is going to be pretty empty,
and he's going to have a shot at being able
to He can do kind of both. He can, you know,
if he can buke up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's a willing blocker, you know already. Yeah, he sticks
in there for sure. But I mean you got to
you gotta get dirty. Yeah, yeah, you got You want
to see little Jordan on Max Crosby tried to.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well that that aspect of this game definitely has improved
if the Broncos want to move him into that position.
But with that being said, that doesn't necessarily mean that
the Broncos should not go out and try to get
better than the draft of free agency.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
That building both.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think even moving him, I still think you got
and Getchawan Johnson.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I still think you drafted somebody.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
So we see those tight ends the ball we got
down tight ends, all right, they're not elite, but they're
just leading.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
We don't we don't know we had we we hadn't
seen them, so I got I don't believe we have.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
They had enough opportunities. See I got the perfect phrase.
Then see they're seeing but they're not heard, but we
see the tight ends. We see him out there. They're
out there, but we don't hear.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
So if if the Broncos offense was in sync, they'd
be like Joey Fatone, Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I was trying to give a reference.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
And even that, he's like, here, do you think if
they threw them the ball more they would they would
catch it?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Or you? Well, we of course, but you don't know
unless you have those attempts. Yeah, you know what a
guy I can do unless you put him in the game.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I mean, that's fair. I do want them to get
more time, but I do believe they're going to upgrade
the pas too. That's must. We'll see, We'll see. Lucas
Croll didn't become the Hall of Famer that people say. Well,
I remember I was sitting right in the room when
when that was said. But just wait until he gets
mentored by Gronk oh oh genius and Broncos spent your
(35:10):
night back after this scroll
The whole finger seat Waters actually years back there producing
five six six nine heroes.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Text on you guys would get involved in the conversation. Oh,
it's been an interesting day. It has been an interesting week.
I guess we haven't had a whole lot of whole
full live.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Shows uh here, but we get a full live show
here tonight, or at least up until eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What's been going on?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We had the presidential dress, we had Rocky Spaceball, see
you bust basketball.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We just had a lot of stuff going on, so
it spit. I don't even seen Nick. I don't even
think I've been on the air with Nick, but like
maybe one time since the combine. Yeah, that's absolutely at all.
The last time I saw you was before INDI.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, it was before Indy, and then after you came back.
Ryan was in studio because yeah, Ryan was sick, right,
and then yeah that's what I.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Started last and we were passing because Bree filled in
for me, because I filled in for Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We had to end of the show, and like since
before the combine, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Steve getting rid did jet set all over the universe here, No,
don't you got a vacation coming up like Hawhi or something.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, I got on the trip playing. I'm trying. I'm
not trying to get away spot. You know what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to bow up you spot. Yeah, anybody
come buy my house? Trying to coil him out of house,
trying to try to heal me up. Well, no, you
got a.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
House sitteror there, Like I'm gonna go houseit for you.
So I'm saying, I ain't nothing could cover Robbie. Man,
I got gonna let that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You see what you see what's on these days?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Like he just wait till these athletes go on road
trip games and then they're busting up. And then Joe
Burrow gets popped for seeing that other girl who was
staying at his house. She's wanted called it in. I
guarantee you I don't have that going on. Man, I
will never I'm gonna put him on blast real quick.
I'll never forget. We had to do a remember who
we did the remote at the Mattress store. Yes, Nick
(01:49):
and I had to do a promoter a Saturday at
a Mattress Ye, the Broncos event.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know a bunch of a bunch of you guys
down there and the alumni.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Downer and all that kind of stuff, and Rod Smith
was down and they were showing them like the new
features on the mattresses and this one mattress like it'll
save to your settings and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I'll talk to you like, no, no, that's will
get me in trouble man mattress and I wus you're
like Stacey or Tamya setting let's go get yours.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh it's mattresses out here trying to try to catch somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was really interesting because I was asking the guy
to kind of break down the details of the mattress
and I'm like, well, it's just a mattress.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You don't need all these bells and whistles.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And he was talking about one side is cool and
then the other you can raise the other side and
then you can kind of connect it with your phone.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And that's when Rob's is like, yeah, mem yes, forget
something like let's try to try to try to have
a player up. I'm just saying I know about smartphones,
but you don't want a smart bed. Yeah, I don't
tell the sales I was like, I need the dumbest mattress. Possible,
(02:59):
I looks rod Man. Do you know Roddy? It was
a text line. Now it's been fascinating.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We're getting on the eve of free agency, and I
wanted to talk to both of you guys about that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You were a free agent when you signed with the Jets. Correct, Yes?
Uh was that fair? I guess I was free when
you get cut? You so you went through the.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Free agency process. Once you went through the free agent process,
was nick You went through the free aging process a
little bit as well.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That was the first time in my life. Well I
know you, like, yeah, it was the only time your life.
You were not making a team.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Even with my my freshman year in high school when
I was terrible in.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Basketball, I still made the team. Were you tall, like
the tall No? Man, I was slim, skinny, I was sure.
I was short. I was about what five five seven five?
Ages a dribble? No, I couldn't do it. I was terrible.
I mean, you need the same thing for me, but
it was more of a cool thing.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So you had no heighten no no height, no hops,
no hand Tell me, at least you can defense.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I okay, but it wasn't great because I was a
football player. You know, football and basketball are two different sports.
Basketball actually helped me be a better.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Football player because in footwork. Yes, because of the footwork. Okay,
did you follow the lot in basketball at the beginning?
What position they play you at? Because they don't football
players go and play basketball on the defensive side forwards.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
When I was when I was younger, early when I
first started, Hey, I couldn't dribble, so I couldn't play guard.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, so they put you down being forward, and I was, but.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I wasn't too I wasn't too tall either, so but
none of us were that's tall at that age anyway.
But but anyway, that was that was the time where
I probably should have gotten cut, but I didn't get cut,
and then I got cut.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It into my career. Man, well I'm just ma, you
signed all the other team, you know. And that's what
I was trying to get at, is how stressful is
it for for you got?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
How stressful is it for players wondering about that kind
of like is somebody coming or these offers coming?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know, that kind of thing out?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
How difficult is it because we don't see this from
the we don't get the humanity side of it. You
know with the fans that everybring on Twitter, look at
all I want this guy and this guy and this guy.
I don't know what that guy he's fought, you know,
that kind of stuff. But there's a there's a human
element to this. It is difficult because what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Sometimes you'll watch as free agency starts to open up.
You know, whether you're going to be that first day guy, right,
because that's when every team wants to kind of get
the splash guy, that's the name guy. But then once
you move past that second and that third day, you
started to get a little concern.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And then that three days turned into a week.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So we can have and you're constantly watching the four
letter network ticker trying to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
How they sign that guy?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm right here, yeah, Like, well problem, why did they
sign that guy to that deal? Did they not take
pay attention to what I did the year before? Well?
Majority of the times, man, it really comes down to
those particular scouts and the teams and how they value
you based on what they need.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But also too, the other element of it is, well
how many years of experience do you have?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Because obviously, if a team could go in and get
you know, a guy who's a third year player and
they can pay him less money.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They're willing to do that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Ye, yes, because they know your salary may be like
starting at a million dollars and maybe they don't don't
want to go that way. But I've seen I've been
in the situation twice where teams have opted for younger
players thinking they're going to get that same level of production,
only to find out.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They need a poor decision.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Because normally if you haven't played by year three or
year four, it's a good chance that's a reason, even
if you're on a good team, find a way to
get you in the game. Any think that reason is
by that third year you missed something.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
And two it is not even four him, that's what's happening,
something that the maths not mathing.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, it's I mean, and that is what I saying.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Generally, you don't see people have breakouts in their careers
a half decade in.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, you know, it's just not that this it happens,
but it's very very rare.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I think that, uh, this probably this free agency process
is it just sort of fascinates me from the like,
you know, the human interest side, of it, though, is
because you know there is a sense of pride in
what you've thought and you look at this, and in
baseball you can sort of replace players in the aggregate.
We've seen the Moneyball movie where you know they're like, Okay,
I'm gonna bringing these three guys and that will replace
the production.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That I you can't do that. It doesn't work. We
had coach Pagano.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
When you're talking about that, remember they let uh, what
was it, Darren Sproles when he was with the Charges
they bulls walk and they're like, oh, we're gonna replace
them with Ryan Williams and yeah, anybody remember Ryan Willams career?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Me either, So it's you know, they were going to
replace him with three other guys. We got this with these,
but it doesn't work in football like that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know what, I'll equate it to this for those
who are listening, It's like you go on a date
with the woman that you're really attractive to.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You're thinking that she is the one.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Everything on a date hit well, I mean conversation and everything,
and then now she doesn't call you back for like
two weeks, right, so nowend zone? Yes, yes, trust me,
one place you don't want to end up because I
almost ended.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Up there with my wife zone with your wife. Yes, oh,
we gotta get missus Ferguson in here. Yes, yes, this
sounds like a take it off for frantic Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So wait, so to be totally right.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When I was dating, I realized, okay, well I wanted
to get married, so I was dating two people at
the same time. Wait, hold on, hold up, wait wait, wait,
hold on for a second. It clears itself up. She
was because I'm trying. I was trying to decide what
I wanted to do. Now you're thinking they didn't know,
but they did, see See.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I told the truth. How would you have felt if
she would have been dating two people. That's part of
the game. I'm willing to deal with that. That was
part of the hustle.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And then I realized that she was my person because
I was in Los Angeles and I was at dinner
with this young lady and she was talking and then
all of a sudden, her voice went to the Charlie
Brown voice, and I was like, and I was like,
and I started thinking, well, what is my wife doing
in Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I was liked, oh did she hear me? And I
was like, I know I need to do, so I left. No,
I wasn't your future wife.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So bro I left Los Angeles, came back to Denver,
made a deal with rich student.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Who was our special who was our.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Strength, the conditioning coach, to say that listen, I'll work
out every day Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Right, And he said, well,
whatever workout I give you on that Thursday, you do
what I asked you to do. And I did that
so I can go to Atlanta to knock on her door.
It took me about two to three months to get
o the friend zone. Right. That took me to.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Friends on you because you were seeing someone else. Well, no,
she friends on me because I was taken too long.
I was taking too long.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And my idea was like I had to go through
that to figure out where I was going to be,
who was best for me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And when I figured it out, it was a little
too late. And I remember what I too. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I remember when I went to Atlanta and I knocked
on her door. I'm so proud.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I was like, yeah, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
She opened the door slightly and she didn't offer me
to come in, right, And I was like wait a minute,
And I had to put my face up off the
floor and put it back on because I was like,
I just got shut down. I just got shut down, right,
(10:49):
He's right, He's right, I got I got shut down.
And that's exactly what it's like to be a free
agent wanting a design to be on the team.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And then the call stop. Yeah, they stop, and it's
like you can call whomever you want in the league.
Oh yeah, listen with them, call stop. Yes, when everyone
started picking up phones. Do you think your agent has
something to do with it?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You think is one hundred percent on you as a player. Well, well,
that's both.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
My job as a player is to go out and perform.
My agent's job is to go out and try to
find the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's eighty twenty. It's eighty percent the player playing, twenty
percent the agent finding you.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
The the Lanti spot and working those connections. I mean,
in my opinion, you know, my extensive experience in the
league obviously.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
To say though talking to agent, but I do talk
to a ton of agents, and I will say, like
I can tell the bad ones.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Because they're lazy, right, Like they got clients that could
have an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But but see that's the problem because when guys are
signing them with agents out of college, you have to
be careful because you're trying to go with maybe Drew Rosenhaus,
but you have to answer yourself, how many.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Players is on his roster?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, does Drew have my best interests of life, tend
safeties on the roster?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Already? I'm not his number one, and what the thing
is all?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
But you also gotta look at what kind of team
does have, what kind of he may have? You know, well, yeah,
you got seven people or who who for he can
get the important stuff done.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I've seen really effective agents who operate like that.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Now I've seen some who try to do it all
themselves and try to take on you know, twenty you
can't do it really.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Know about I'll tell you this, Drew Rosenhaus has done
well for himself, and he has a lot of individuals
on his team.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But here's what I also know about Drew.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Drew goes after a lot of those guys who are
projected to be first rounders. So if you're not a
projected first round of god, he may not be your
He may not be your guy because all those guys
on their merita being projected first rounders, they don't get drafted.
But what if you're one of those Day two, Day
three guys?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Could you get lost in the shuffle?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, and particularly those because eighty percent of the players
belong to one of six agents.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Honestly, like what.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Happens he is the smaller the guys like you know,
you'll get drafted later or undrafted. Uh, you sign with
an agent and you'll get your rookie deal now because
the rookie deals are slotted. And then as you you
become a starter, you get good, then they poach you.
They try to come poach you with you know, advertising guarantees. See,
that's where you have a little more say so as
(13:18):
a player because all.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Those agencies that wouldn't sign you when you perceived as being,
you know, just that third round guy, free agent guy.
You play yourself into a brand where people now know you.
Now they start coming to you and you say, you
know what, you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Don't want to holler, yeah, you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Hoilight me there, you don't want to hold on ale,
I'm not gonna give it to you whatever exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
So what happens to the guys who don't play up
to their potential, you know, they they don't get the
opportunities to be on the field as much as they
would like. And then do they just fade into the back?
I mean, what all depends and when you drift. If
you get drafted in round one or two, you're usually
going to get a second chance somewhere, like somebody's gonna
give you a second shot.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Three, four, five, No, man, you're done pretty much getting
latched on in the camp and ball out.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well, how long would you say players have if you're
not a first second rounder to prove that you belong
to every year.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You got your first year to show you belong on
the roster somewhere or the practice squad. You got your
second year to show you made the jump and you're
ready to play. If you're after that, you're toast. If
you drafted, you got three and that's I mean your
first year, second year is by your third camp, you
don't have.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It, see you, you know you might not even last
that long anymore. Look at the quarter Josh Rosen got
moved on after one year in Arizona. Remember that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, see see there's a lot that went into why
Josh Rosen Dinton Seed, right, and I said, we can
say that about a lot of quarterbacks because everyone is
quite the thrown. Well he's a bus because if he's
drafted the first round, well did he go to the
right team.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
In the case of Josh.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Rosen, he was even set up from for failure from
the jump because they Arizona ounted him and Steve Wilkes,
who was taking over the job for the first time,
and Wilkes had a rookie quarterback, almost like what happened
to Draw May.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There was no.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Patience, right, So so teams bailed on players entirely too soon,
and they blame it all on the player, but they
didn't give that player, especially from a quarterback standpoint, You.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Didn't give him a supporting cast Organizationally, they cannot be supported.
There are some organizations that do a really good job
with with coaches and players and having more patients than others.
The Steelers, you know, obviously, with you know, with my
com a ton of patients. I have kind of applauded
the Giants for keeping dable in Shane one more year.
Give him a chance to turn it around.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's a problem one.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wait, I don't agree with you on that because John
marratau Joe saying, hey, listen, Saquon Barkley is the most
popular player.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm with all him to his face.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm not saying they have no mistakes and I'm not
saying they're gonna do it. I'm saying organizational. He say
Daniel Jones, and let's say Kuon Barkley, Well, now you
got Daniel Joes in.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Minnesota is a third stringer.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Saquon Barkley's winning the Super Bowl hop it over people
looking like a Mario brother.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
He did Taquana though I let him go. He was
not gonna be able to.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Hold on the sa Quon anyway because Saquon had already
told him.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
What his number was and Joe Shane was unwilling to and.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Get to that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You don't think he did Barkley solid.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, if he wanted to do Saquona solid, he would
have gave Saquon the deal that sa Quon now has
with the Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And would have Super Bowl ring either. Probably wouldn't, but
he wouldn't. But Mara told him.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
He was like, look, I don't think I would be
able to sleep at night if sa Quon joined Philadelphia
what dend up happening with in Philadelphia. He rushed for
over two thousand yards and he won a Super Bowl
and he's still on the division and he got the
money that he wanted.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Come on, man, how did he get I'm confused? What
solid did he do him?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
He was he had to sign him or let him go,
like it wasn't gonna do a franchise, tag him, let
him go.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I mean in the end that is that worked out
favorably for Saquon. I mean you know that the Giants
get nothing out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Saquon Barkley goes on and gets the Super Bowl and
a huge contract. Yeah, thank you, man appreciated and tonus
of motivations to show off on Giants games, those Giants fans.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And now you're watching, Now you're watching the Giants.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
See.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Though, as much as I applaud them for having the
patience to give one more year to dig themselves out,
the problem is is now those guys realize you're getting fired.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Right, they know what they're gonna do. They're gonna go
sign Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They try to offer him a truckload of money, trying
to trade up to.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
One to get camb Ward at the same time, because
they recognize if this works out, we get to stay
and we'll figure out all the money and draft.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
If it doesn't work, is that gonna work, then we
set the organization bag and we're not gonna be here anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Is that gonna work? Here's another thing Shane did.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He went to one of his players, I think Nick McCleod,
right before the game one of their games, and asked
him to take a reduction in his salary.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Before a game. Who does that? I've never heard of that,
and you keep your job well. He told him to
stop paying rent because he's getting cut.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He went to Nick mcclough and told him to stop
paying his rent because he was getting cut.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know the game can be cut through, but come on.
He told him to take a pay cut during the season.
It right before a game, and.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I don't know how the Giants survived this. No matter
who they draft, things they're they're things are not going
to change for them.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, per Giants players. I got the quote.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Shane told McLeod's agent, don't pay October's rent. As soon
as I can replace him, I'm going to replace him.
I'm not bleeping around and hung up the phone.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well how did you get to that point? Well that's
something we can talk about on the other side. Rocks
cut your night back after this all the if I
used the CD player in my car? Have you ever
even seen a GD like you're so young, CD jo,
I'm relevant. This is my grandparents Clisard. I don't know
(19:13):
nothing about the VCR. Yeah, I don't know. That's talking
about the disc change her too. I remember when you
had one. You had to hit the button on one
in there.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I got one for you, Zach. I know you've never
seen a track, yeah like that. My dad still has
eight tracks. He's got like a big case of like sixteen,
like one of the pup he's gonna pull out of the.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
H safe. It's huge, right because I'm not remember concept.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Eight track was a little bit before it, but I remember,
you know, because then you're like you listen to radio
and you wait for a song to come on and
you pamer the record, but you hope the DJ would
shut up and not talk to the intro, you know,
and then you're like trying to write the you know,
because you had to name your huge ni nineteen eighty seven,
make a nicked jam. You're whipping it down the side
because there's not enough room to write the thing. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
She's like, you know what into saying this right?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Because he used to run to the cassette player like
they do that, that that nine o'clock smash.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Up and he's trying to get that song. We knew
this should drop on the home the song. How about
the DJs? How do you want Tony Terrell talking about
the quiet story on the song?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He did that right because he was making a mixtape
to get to a young lady. That's what he's doing. Yes, yeah,
I know where it Ben's going with. I might have
been getting new songs for the band. I don't know.
You want to say, so you've been there. I didn't know.
That's how I know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You run it. You run it for the for the
paper in the corner, the corn on them, that's the goal.
You got that that Friday night midstape.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, and you wanted it where you were not when
was recording for the taping.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
There he got right on the time and you're sitting
the whole time. You tell the DJ to shut up,
just shut and talking he's like, he's like, they got
the intro music started to play, right.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He said, cause Tony Terrell chust stole on Power Neggy two. Yeah,
Zach Singer's sitting back to some shues and I don't know,
he said, go DJ, he knows DJ Kalendar have another one.
You don't even know what I'm talking about. Yeah, the
(21:15):
modern equivalent is the Spotify AI.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Spotify stuff you already have, Like you don't know the pain, Well,
you can find any song you wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Question, you don't know the pain to sit there for
three hours, he's coming soon. We got to pray a
new Bobby Brown coming soon.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Three hours waiting for that thing. And if you ever
wanted to be a DJ, you had to have records
and be able to.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, you don't even know what we're talking about. Then
I know some final. I know some final make jokes
about me being able to grow facial hair. You're able
to go facial hair, then sit there talking about not
as well as you. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, he's a
month of girlfriend here. See that's Thursday throwback for for
for you listeners and for you Zach Thursday threw back
(21:59):
the I don't go.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Five six six Textaw, we had a couple of couple
of good texts come in our water's right, saque was.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Done right by the GM letting him go. There you go, Steve?
Uh three six? Is my car came with a CD player?
I've never used it?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
With them iPod I mean it's years the car. Is
it a zoom zoom?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah? It done? Players? What's that?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, I can say I had a cat player? And
where was the last year a car came with a
cassette player? I want that's a that's a good turnyqu
I wonder when that was? Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That was Apple Play? Well, yeah, because they get to
the Bluetooth everything. Now, come on, why Apple Play? Why
can't it be Google Play? Well, I got Google Play.
It's YouTube music. I mean it's the same thing. Yeah,
it's just you know, it just depends on you got
a droid, well Google pixel. Yeah, let's just say you
just got a droid. Man, it's not a druid. It's
the same to Android, is operatings just it is Troy
(22:59):
a right, man, you said, what was it? Exactly?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
The last car in the US with a factory installed
cassette player was the twenty ten Lexus s C four thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So it's been fifteen years since a car came off
the assembly line with a cassette player?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Technology, What about the disc? What about the what they
still make? You think the CD is still in production?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I think you got like sometimes you gotta pay for it,
but most of them still have. You still have the
CD player, the option for the CD player.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Do you even sales CITs anymore? I don't know. Must
think any record stores.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
If you go to record stores, they'll have that other
hard media, like they'll have VHS tapes, they'll have CD's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Been to a record store? Yeah, okay, all right, I
got I got well told you in the past month,
I got I got one for you that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Do you know what a microfiche is? There?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You go?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
You know that is you do a decimal systems like
a plankton. They never go look up newspaper articles that
the micro fish. Yeah in the library, yes, in the library.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yes. Now, no, you couldn't do that. You had to
go in there, your page by page and look through
it like a minnow like a guppy Michael fish dad joke.
You just dated yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yes, it did.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Shut your mind. I'm gonna kick you out of the conversation. Yeah,
like a guppy, get out of you. They just tack. Now,
got over.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I gotta be crack in the first sem I'm good
like I just like every time comes he's getting cracked.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
One time, I gotta be cracking the first segment. I'm good.
I had to bust out to R. Kelly. But whatever,
I'm on the CD point topically.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Actually, the Super U Outback Touring and Touring Next Tea
are expected to be the last new cars sold with
standard CD players in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh so this year they get rid of set rid
of them. Okay, movies, they're out there. You go now,
you know, I don't need to do it, Like, how
has anymore? Man? What wait, I'm trying to pick up
on what to say. You know, everybody get all upset
(25:14):
and come on. The show's officially gone off the road.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Today.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
This is what this is what we do on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Man, got right, because we got We've got Ryan Michael
coming up top of the hour.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
So it's gonna be we'll get to talk a little
bit of uh pro football fame, talk about how he's
doing over there in the European League of Football now
because he's he's back over there with the belief of
Prague doing different over there.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I wonder if they got some merch because I am
in this solely for the free merchandise. So well he's
get to merch from Tim Jenkies.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yet, Hey a shirt from like ten years ago with
Jake's Elite.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Was one guy and we need on the show and
put him on glass. Yeah we still he's down here,
Parker right now. Okay, you're good. Yeah, as far as
I know, I talked to him in a couple week,
but okay, I need to something. I say, what up
he was? You know, Tim Jenkins? He was me, uh
well he was all of us submerged.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But he owes me a T shirt that I paid
for I bought when he first put the website up.
I was like, I almost support you man, all right?
Saw by a Jink's Elite long sleeved T shirt.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Never got it? You paid for it? Oh yeah, what
kind of friends that you have? Wow, Well we know
the guy. I'm gonna put him on blast right now.
That's why he's making money. That's off the T shirt.
Said to Oskin, he just run a car and not
get it to you when I get it to you.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, I loved him. We got ahead a traffic break
here at a minute. I want to get into a
couple of things. Is there any guess all the.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
News today DK metcalf explored a trade obviously there No,
that's that's a no for me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But I was just throwing it out there if you
even just missing in fact, the should the Broncos be
and have any interest in DK?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, he's a very talented player, but let's be
totally honest. There's only one route that DK runs. Well, yeah,
it was an eight and that's it. That's it. That's
It's kind of what I was what I was getting at.
He's really a bang nine guy. That's best pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
He struggles with kind of those intermediate routes and you
saw him late in the season last year kind.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Of giving up on some routes too.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Well, that's that's probably one of the reasons why they
want to move on him, because Jackson Smith and Jacoba
has definitely turned into receiver number one.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah. Now they already got rid of Tyle Lockett. They
already they already cut Tyle Lockett.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh wow, So I wonder if any of those guys
would possibly end up with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Obviously, Pete, Carroll, Pereworth, it did you whatever with Seattle,
come on down.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I wouldn't be surprised if if Pete and the Raiders
actually kicked the tires to see if they could pull
off a trade for DK, just to seem, not to
say that they would do it, but just to see,
you know, kind of what the numbers look like.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean, because the stuff that floated out today
was a first and a third rounder for DK, and
nobody's playing that.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Absolutely, nobody's sending the first and third rounder for DK.
That gap nine years in the league now six seven, eight,
somewhere in there. He's in the sixth to eight mark,
and he's he's been, you.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Know, pretty much an eight hundred yard receiver or I
mean he's just what six are six because he's not
a second video it's just six had six years.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, he's on a second sex here. So but I mean,
you know, he's he's he's a two route guy, you know,
and I know we saw in that third rounder. Yeah,
that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's where the conversation to me feels like two thirds
as would be would be the mark for him.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But they're asking a first and third. I know by
the way he wants a contract extension for thirty million
a year. Nah, I can't do it. It happens. So
in those cases, what you do you led teams with
players like that. He let him cut him first, or.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Let him go out there. You want to do the trade, fine,
go see your market. Of course that backfire is on
you if it's Matt Stafford. But you know the Rams
go seek a trade, and then they would scramble and
trying to try to get that done because the Raiders
were going to give him money.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
What's a couple of receivers that you guys would make
a trade for. Well, we'll answer that right when we
get back. Steve Attwater, young Zack Segers back there in
the glass man. That's height music man. He wasn't even
alive when the song was he came out. It's the
recognized good music. This song was retro when he was born.
(29:09):
He said, you know cool Jays like he's a great grandfather.
What is the what is the LL stand for? Put him?
He has no idea? He cool Jane, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That was one of the things like it was funny
because he was one of the first people that talked
about because you gotta ask why you switched to acting,
and he's like, man, there's nothing sadder than an aging hipster,
an aging rapper. And he's like, yeah, wow, he's still rapping, right,
well this we got into acting now. Also he's back
into rapid I guess or whatever, but you know, yeah
he was. And I was like, man, it's some true
to that though, Like you get to a certain point
(29:46):
and I don't know if you could still yeah, like
there was a point where.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You got the mc hammer and you're like, all right,
you gotta stop. Dude. He can't be Yeah, you can't
be fifty five years old about heart, you know about
I'm from the streets.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah, oh, if it's five, like it's time to some
dollars back a little bit, you grandpa?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Not right? Well, well, speaking of a grandpa.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
When you look at this year's upcoming wide receiver free agency,
what meaning that though there are a lot of receivers
out there, a lot of guys with seven years, guys
who are above twenty seven, you know it works for
us and twenty seven most of time you say, well,
all this is young, but in football years like dog years, right.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So if you were to look at you right your
prime right there? Yeah, you and your prime. But so well, yeah,
that's you get a contract. That's gonna be your big
money contract, then smaller contracts after that.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So we're seeing a lot of guys either asked for
trade or in the case in Seattle with Tyler Lockett,
the guy who was really productive in the first couple
of years of his career, he was saying practice. So
those guys are on the market. Davontae Adams is out
there as well. Is there a guy there's a veteran
guy that you think would fit with the coach of
the Broncos currently have.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
See I don't necessarily want them to bring in. I
like the young guys that they got.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I want to see Mims as soon as they figured
out he was on the roster ball he took off
last year.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Every game was better production, more improvement game after game.
I think Vele could be something. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I don't think people have the same conviction about the
bomb Bayley that I do. He's cold and he would
have been something last year if he hadn't got cracked.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Ribs early in the season. His workload would have been
a lot bigger.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
We have a very good receiving car, you know as
it is right now, and I know everybody wants to
see some improvements, and you know, you want to go
get a guy like this, a man from the from
UH Jets, No from UH Cincinnati, Higgins, but Higgins other one,
(31:40):
Jamar Chek, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Everybody wants to Jamar Chase. You know those guys don't
come around it off.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
But you just need to find guys that fit like
Meg Meg Hollands. Right, he doesn't sound like Okay, well
anything jumps off the page. Were watching Holland's last year
in Buffalo and the physicality that he brought. I was
nice from the wide receiver position. And it won't call
the Broncos that much money lower.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's what I'm saying. He said that dirty mix it up.
I mean, I say dirty, you know what I mean.
Though he's had great.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Like as a receiver. He said, dude, it would fit
what Sean Payton does a lot to go dig a safe.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yes, oh yeah, yeah, he's nice. That'd be a nice edition.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It wasn't in the big the big part of it
for me, veteran wide receiver. He comes in and helps
change the culture with the wide receiver room and also
the level of toughness that he brings to the room
that helps out.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
The run game.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And you don't really have to pay him an observant
amount of money, right I'm with I would.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Be okay with the signing on that level because that's
not going to cost you what what some of these
other guys. There's no need to go out and get
a crust Godwin, There's no need to go out and
try to try to get some of these other guys
that the fans. You know, the fans want the big name,
but the reality is are those guys a fit and
can they afford that?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
For me, Meg Hollands would be what the Broncos thought
that the Jordan Humphrey was going to be, which.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
By the way, I think litt Jord Humphrey is going
be moved to tight end. I think they're go move
him to the tight end room. No that that'll be
a better fit for him.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Let me know, Steve, I'm saying I would not like
to see that happen.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I think, you know, I think that he recognizes that
there's an economic reality here in terms of sticking around.
That tight end room is going to be pretty empty,
and he's going to have a shot at being able
to He can do kind of both. He can, you know,
if he can buke up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's a willing blocker, you know already. Yeah, he sticks
in there for sure. But I mean you got to
you gotta get dirty. Yeah, yeah, you got You want
to see little Jordan on Max Crosby tried to.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well that that aspect of this game definitely has improved
if the Broncos want to move him into that position.
But with that being said, that doesn't necessarily mean that
the Broncos should not go out and try to get
better than the draft of free agency.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
That building both.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think even moving him, I still think you got
and Getchawan Johnson.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I still think you drafted somebody.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
So we see those tight ends the ball we got
down tight ends, all right, they're not elite, but they're
just leading.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
We don't we don't know we had we we hadn't
seen them, so I got I don't believe we have.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
They had enough opportunities. See I got the perfect phrase.
Then see they're seeing but they're not heard, but we
see the tight ends. We see him out there. They're
out there, but we don't hear.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
So if if the Broncos offense was in sync, they'd
be like Joey Fatone, Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I was trying to give a reference.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
And even that, he's like, here, do you think if
they threw them the ball more they would they would
catch it?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Or you? Well, we of course, but you don't know
unless you have those attempts. Yeah, you know what a
guy I can do unless you put him in the game.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I mean, that's fair. I do want them to get
more time, but I do believe they're going to upgrade
the pas too. That's must. We'll see, We'll see. Lucas
Croll didn't become the Hall of Famer that people say. Well,
I remember I was sitting right in the room when
when that was said. But just wait until he gets
mentored by Gronk oh oh genius and Broncos spent your
(35:10):
night back after this scroll
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