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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
You guys want to get involved in the conversation. We're
on the eve of March mad that's although we got
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Me the money night obviously on the eazy of your
Texas game, so uh we'll see something with that big
show tonight. Justin Adams gonna join us a little bit
talk about the latest. It's CEU Byron Leftwich has been
added to the staff there at Colorado and then as
yet undisclosed title of those supposedly working with quarterbacks and
on the offensive side of the ball, which would obviously
be his forte Byron Leftwich, the offensive coordinator. I wasn't
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necessarily the biggest fan of, but I will tell you
one of my enduring memories of all time is Byron
Leftwich getting carried at with the with the bum leg
and Marsha out the marshall down the field and just
destroy and uh just get you know, as he's being
carried down the field by his offensive line.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And I was huge Byron Leftwich the player fan.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know, it's just just to hear you say that
you were not a huge fan of Byron Leftwich the
office of Coordinator, considering that you were not fond of
Pat Shermer either.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Weird how that works. No, the two are not related. No,
they're not related. But I go back to your disdain
for Pat Shermer.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But also go back somebody's Christian named Punch Shermer. Okay,
well that's what you've referred to a mass.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But then I go back to what Byron Leftwich was
able to do.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
With the angeless wonder Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
How much of that was Byron Lefwich Tom Brad Wait, wait,
hold Dawn, hold dall, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
So, first of all, the idea was that, well.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It wasn't Brady in New England. It was all Bill Belichick.
But Brady went to Tampa to prove that. Guess what
there was.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Still Keith proved it, right, Brady proved it.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But I think, like, are we sitting here calling Josh
McDaniels giving him the credit for all of Tom Brady's
success in New England?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Who want to? I'm not saying that, but give credit
where credit is due.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And the reason I say that because both offensive coordinator,
quarterback coach, and the quarterback himself.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
They work in concerts together. Oh, I agree.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And I'm not trying to take a whole lot away
from Byron Leftwich. How much you try to take away
from him then you say something a whole lot, I'm
not trying to take a whole lot away from him.
I like, I just I feel like, based on what
I know of that situation, that most of that was Tom.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Brady there in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
See for Byron Leftwich, I feel bad for him because
with the fall that's been, he went from OC and
Tampa to interviewing and accepting the head coaching job of
the Jacksonville Jaguars, except they were unwilling to bring in
his guy, Adrian Wilson to be the general manager.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So then the Jaguars walked away from.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Their contract to hire Doug Peterson, and then all bulky,
yeah and balky, and Byron Leftwich had nothing And now
then he's been doing nothing like and now all of
a sudden he speaks back trying as an offensive assistant
at a collegiate level.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But see that that's kind of for me, that's an
indictment on Byron left which is not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And I'm not trying to blame him that I said.
I feel bad for him for that far.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, yeah, because that's an indictment on those who chose
not to hire him. Because in the situation with Jacksonville,
it seemed as though that was kind of a done deal.
Former player comes back to coach his team. That's an
NFL story that writes itself. But Shag Khan fell as though, no,
you know what, we want to bring you in, Trent Barkie,
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and we're gonna have Doug Peterson, Doug Peterson.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, I like what I like Doug Peterson. Let
me by saying that.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But the Trent Barkie I never really felt great about
that hire at the GM position. And lo and beho
what has happened thus far? He was fired, right, And
now you look at the situation.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Colin comes in and Colin wants his own guy.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Colin gets his own guy, Bucky. Trent Barkie gets to boot.
But I mean, they wouldn't do that for a guy
like you know. That's that's the thing that bothers me.
You have an opportunity to bring in a former player
in Byron Leftwich, and he wants his own guy, but
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you don't allow him to do that, but you allow
someone else to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Shad Connie's only he could do whatever you want to.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But as far as Byron Leftwich is concerned and his
ability as an OC, he worked well with Tom Brady
and vice versa, with the formation he used, how he
deployed the plays Tom had to execute. So when I
think about the fact of Byron left Wish being at CU,
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to me, it puts a smile on my face because
two years ago I remember seeing Byron Leftwich amongst many
other celebrities. They're at CEU on the sideline, so it
was inevitable as far as that was going to happen.
I'm happy about this, But I'm wondering your guy, your
guy Kyt Strammer, how was he feeling about this?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Maybe that seats get a little sweaty. I don't know.
Oo ooh ooh sweaty. I don't know. Maybe it is.
I don't know. We need some TP for that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm just I'm just saying that seat might be getting
a little bit warm.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I mean, like as far as uh, as far as
the rest of it goes, I think he's a value
ad to see you. I'm not trying to take anything
away from him in that regard. I just you know,
I don't want to. I don't want people thinking that,
you know, when I look.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
At this, I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't look at this is we're hiring an offensive
genius or we're hiring a good offensive mind who's worked
at the NFL level before we'll see what he is.
I give a lot of the Tampa credit to Byron Left,
which I mean he was fired from Tampa. They fired
him after the Brady thing was gone. They fired him
back in twenty twenty three, and he hasn't done anything since.
And so for me, I'm like, Okay, I think he's
a value ad because I think he's a I think
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he's a good mind to have in this room. I
hope that he is able to rehabilitate his reputation to
the NFL in a man or college football wait, in
a manner that puts him back in the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
How was his reputation tainted in any way?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Because how you know you said the Bucks decided to
fire him.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Is that tainted love? As far as Barral Luftwich is concerned,
I mean, if you get fired.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
If you're the guy that just came off a Super
Bowl and you get fired and nobody else hires you,
what does that say?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That does say that?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That doesn't say a whole lot to maybe unless there
is an underlining story to it that just tells me, well,
maybe his run with Tom Brady, you know, ran of course,
because Tom is out.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now he's out.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
We've seen that type of situation happen before, when the
head coach brings in his own guys.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Head coach is gone, these other guys leaving. Well, coach
was hau I mean this was Ty Bowles. Ty Bowles
fired him after four seasons. Uh there with Tampa.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, to me, that means and I don't know this,
and I'm only speculating that could have been the difference
of opinion. Maybe not with Todd Bowles, but maybe someone
else in management. We've seen that happen before.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, I mean Bruce Arians was kind of running the
show there in the front office, and that was Byron
was his guy?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Okay, Well, that could have been a discrepancy with those
some guys, because we know disagreements happened all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
To say Byron was Bruce Arians guy?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I totally understand that, but I don't feel, based.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
On the level of production we saw in the.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Field, that what we've seen with Byron's career has been warranted.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And I would like to think maybe that coach Prime made.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
This move with that in mind, because we know about
the frivolous farce interviews up in New England.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, and we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We've certainly seen guys get fired that probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Have been fired as soon as they were.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Whatever you think of Steve Wilkes one year as a
head coach at in Arizona with Josh Rosen like that
doesn't even make sense. The only reason they did it
the other way was because they got Kyler and and
you know, Cliff, and they knew what they were, you know,
they knew what they were getting out of that. I
didn't have anything to do with if Steve Wilkes was
turning the programmer on her.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The situation that happened in Arizona. I'm glad you brought
that up. It was more or less that Kingsbury was
going to be offered the OC job. He didn't want
the OC job job, he wanted the head job. So
Arizona said, you know, what we're gonna fire Wilkes, which
that's a disservice him, just like David.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Cully with the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean that was well even Lovey, itested like
both those guys were fired before. I mean, what are
you doing hiring somebody for one year? And they did
Kully and Lovey back to back, right.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So the reason I bring that up is that on
the surface, it looks like, well, that team parted weighs
with that coach after one year because that coach was
viewed as not.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Being able to lead that team and not having the goods.
But there's more underlining.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Issues to why those situations worked out the way they did,
which I'm thinking and I don't know this per se,
but that may there may have been an underlining issue
as to why Barren Leftwich was outed at Tampa Bay
and was still trying to find a job. Because there's
some terrible coaches and there's some terrible OC's in the.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Udio debate there.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
We're in lockstep total agreement there, and there are some
backwards thinking organizations when it comes to we're in lockstep
on that. I just like, what for me it gives me,
It makes me hit the pause button. What I'm like,
Wait a minute, this is a four year o s
coming off a Super Bowl paired with Tom Brady under
the You know a guy Bruce Arians is sitting here
vouching for and he gets fired and can't find a job.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
See See that's the part that's wild to me, because
we got guys like the guy you mentioned earlier, Josh McDaniels,
who keeps getting jobs and he's back in New England.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And that's what Josh McDaniels has never met the upwards.
He can't fail to exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And what we used to say when I played with like,
if you find yourself in a situation like that, someone's got.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Some dirto someone, he's got someone, he's got the fruit.
Like the way he's in the JFK files have not
been released yet is because Josh McDaniels are still holding
on to him. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I'm just saying here, I like this, this concept and
this idea of Bonning left Wich being in Boulder for
so many reasons. Because you have a guy who has
NFL experience now adding to a staff with several coaches
with prior NFL experience, and if you were to look
at college football as a whole and say, well, which
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teams have the most NFL experience, I would like to think,
without having the numbers in front of me, it would
be the CU Bus.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Now, is that guaranteeing success? No it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But there are two guys on the bus roster that
this move benefits the most, Juju and Cayden Soltz's.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I agree with that. I do agree. Having his
brain in the room is a huge plus.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Exactly because he is a guy who's played the game.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, but problem has made an effort to do that.
I mean, if you look at this staff, it's it's
either NFL coaches or guys who played You.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Look at the guys he's brought in.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The mounta Peca Warren Sapire left, which Marshall fulk.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You look at the guys he's added to the staff.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Whatever you think of his managerial style, he's adding cachet
to the staff. These guys have been there, they've done it.
You know, there's certainly something to be said to that.
And I think it's fascinating because in a way, and
so I was talking to somebody about this today and
it's an African American jomer like yourself, and he called
Colorado black North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So he did.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He's like, he's like, he's like, they're trying to do
the same thing at NC except they're trying to do
it the white guy way. Like he was having this,
you know, he was having this conversation with and I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, it's sort of funny. But he's like, he's like,
but you're going to see a divide here.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You're going to see that Dion, you know, I mean,
he's gonna get then both guys are going to get
people to both you know, it's just getting colors or
whatever you want to call it. But he but he's like,
he's trying to create a certain culture here and and
Bill's trying to create These are the NFL pipelines.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They're doing it two different ways, but these are.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The NFL pipelines going forward if these two programs take off.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay, So yes, you're absolutely right in that regard. And
this is what I called the coach Prime effect because
this is why I know Carolina did what they did.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Belichick realized that the diver was cast. He wasn't going
to get another NFL job. He might have got that
Dallas job. But I don't know if if he felt
he was going to get a Dallas job, he should
have held out.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I think I think I think Jerry played it too
Koy with his people is what I think happened.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now. I don't think those two guys would have Max
because Parcels is down there for a minute and that that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Didn't want that didn't Once again, that's my point.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Bill didn't work with Bill, Parcells didn't work with Jerry,
and then Bill Belichick wasn't going to work. Now Bill
Belichick was brought in to try to capitalize off of
the momentum. Hints why the nd season Hard Knocks is
not in the NFL anymore. It's at North Carolina, but
to try to capture that same thing that well off
media has done for the see you buffs. But when
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I look at Barron Leftwich and I go back to
the two young quarterbacks, the biggest thing is that familiarity.
This is why Prime is bringing in guys with prior
NFL experience where you were a player, whether you were
a coach. But the biggest thing for me as two
African American quarterbacks at CU following an African American quarterback
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in Shador.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It is great for those young men first and foremost
to see someone.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That looks like them that is played on the highest
level of professional sports. Even though when Byron Leftwiz came
in in Jacksonville, he was that guy and then later.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
On became a backup or whatever. But being able to see.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Someone that looks like you with a similar skill set
that can help coach and walk you through that that's
not the same someone who is not African American can't
do that. But there's another subsets of things and criticism
that you'd have to deal with as an African American quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The other the quarterbacks don't. Oh, I believe it. It was
funny because the same general we're having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And that same guy, same guy, same guy, we're having
this and he's like Byron Leftwich was the first black
quarterback that didn't play like a black quarterback because he
was a pocket.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
He wasn't fast or anything was. He wasn't athlete.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
He was a pocket passer who reminded you kind of
Drew Bledsoe, you know, because the wide stance, he had,
the rocket Ford arm, all that kind of stuff. He
reminds you of a player of Drew Bledsoe in a
lot of ways. There was a shame injuries, kind of
kind of hurt, and you know, he didn't really pan out.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They ended up going with David Garrard.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I think a little later in Jackson Bill and and
and Byron finished his career as a journey moment, I
think with those Steelers.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But it was, you know, it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Was funny he was ma because he was like, yeah,
Barrol Lwich was the first guy where you were you
saw a black pocket passer, an African American pocket passers.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's the uncommon and you were like in the era.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Of Vic, you know, it was one of those things
where it was like exactly what you were saying, it's
somebody that looks like me that doesn't the plays like them.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, in a way, you know, well, and it helps
because you got the athletic quarterbacks. And when you look
at the thirty two guy teams in the NFL, several
of those thirty two quarterbacks are very mobile quarterbacks that
can move and know how to throw on the run.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So for me, it's the best of both worlds.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
For those guys, they're all mobile in their own right,
but he can teach them the fundamentals of being able
to sit in the pocket, something that a lot of
gms are still looking for because a lot of mobile
quarterbacks get criticized because it's said that well they they're looked,
they looked to take off before was standing in the pocket.
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Trying to go through that last progressive. But I'll tell
anyone if he ever played the game of football, but
more importantly at the quarterback position, you better have some
mobility to you because these guys are getting faster and
they smacked your head off.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That they will five six six NS zero's text one.
You guys want to get to all the conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Left, which, by the way, I think was a lot
more successful in Jacksonville than people remember. He had a
twenty four and twenty record, despite those being some pretty
bad Jags teams. He had fifty eight touchdowns or excuse me,
fifty one touchdowns to thirty six picks.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But the problem was.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Over the last two years he missed. He missed a
couple of games in four and then he was five
games and five and they had David Garrard come on
and won a couple of games. They roll with that
and you know kind of what could have been if
they you know, maybe if they'd stuck with it or whatever.
But I thought, I mean I liked I always liked
Bayern Leftfoish the player, I will say, even if he
was stuck on those Jack del Rio teams down there
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in Jacksonville. But they had had some players on some
of those teams. Man, I mean it was Jimmy Smith
a d the end there. Uh you had Frank Taylor was.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Down there in Jacksonville. He don't not mistaken. Maurice Jones
Drew joined the team. Mercedes Lewis was on that team
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He had a tight end named George Reichster on that team.
I think you and I both know.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yes, yeah they had, uh, yeah they had. I don't
know if j d was on those early teams and
he was later raft Gara though, yeah, Garage. They drafted
Matt Jones.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't know if you remember Matt Jones before Jimmy
got him into the into the snow.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But Matt Jones was uh wede receiver, man, he was.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
He was long in rangy and he didn't really look
like he was running fast.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Story for you by Matt Joe's two.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
He was six foot six two twenty two and he
ran a forty and four to three. He played quarterback
down there at Arkansas. He was on the basketball team too,
which is steven. After football, just go play basketball. That
dude was the most laid back guy you ever met.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He slept through a tornado in high school.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
A tornado hit touchdown, was going through and narrowly missed
their house.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And at what point did he wake up? He did?
He woke up later like that was a thing. He
slipped through a tornado.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That's that's either ridiculous or that's nerves of steel.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
One of the other. I don't, I can't are you
with I'm just gonna ask.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Was Big John Henderson on those teams, the guy who
you know got fired up getting smacked upside do?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I remember playing against him and in the tunnel someone
would smack him in the face. He would go to
one of the trainers and it wasn't one of these
white smacks. It's just like like someone stole something from you,
smack in the face, right, and it was hard and
somehow that got him up to playing. And I guess
it pissed him the heck off, because are some of
our teams when we played against him. He's always had
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great games against the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He had some some good defensive players on those teams,
because they did had Marcus Stroud was on there, John Henderson,
Reggie Hayward, Paul Speiser, they had.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
They had some some decent defensive lines back time.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
They had some guys. But when where the rubber meets
the roll, they were not able to put the necessary
performances together. That was kind of a problem. I remember
playing against Jacksonville uh and left, which was a quarterback,
you know, shameless plug.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yes I picked him off. Yes, I'm sure it did.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
When you go when we go up there to Colorado
for pro you going up for prode, We're going up
there for day, Nick's gonna we canna get a ball.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You can bring that ball to you be like, hey,
I'm gonna get this autograph for a real quick and
camember to see. You know.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The idea is to be welcome and boulder, not to
be kicking out right, So.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Turn this to you.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that. I'm
just hey, listen, I'm just here to watch and cheer
on some players. But in that same game, That's where
I mean, I knew a lot about John Lynch, but
I learned more about John Lynch in that game because
Dominic Fox was one of our corners and we had
this this rule where you had to get guys on
the ground, and Dominic Fox were just struggling with this
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runner can't really get on the ground. And I'm running
towards the ball and I see John and I'm saying
to myself, get him on the ground, get him on
the ground.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And Foxy waited entirely too late.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
The runners saw him and moved and John hit foxyncussion
out for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes, that's the worst. We got a big show. Justin
Adams is.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Gonna join us a little bit, talk a little bit
about this spiring left which hire I want to get into. Uh,
some of the Broncos free agent moves. They signed the
Potter today. We talked about Matt Hack. I think on
this show a couple of days ago. If I don't remember,
I can't remember which day it was they signed him.
Today we got some tickets Differs Home Show to give
away at of course the NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
More we come back Broucous Country night. I gotta start
coming to these pre show meetings Nick. When you hype
yourself up like that, Listen, man, I had Nick Ferguson
hyping himself up before the show.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
No, no, no, I had different ways to get myself
gassed up for a game, but it was never allowing
someone to small be in the face until they drew blood. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, I'm good on that. I don't need I don't
need that. I don't need it. That's sad to me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's like, I mean, if that's what works for you,
I'm not gonna sit there and like like dog somebody
that works.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
For Well, why do you need that? Like you can't
you can't find some other motivation there?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Look man to it to eats his own like like
in Dodgeball, what the guy said, No one.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Makes me bleave my own blood. No one. So it's
one of those things. I just to me losing his
humiliating That's that's enough. I don't smacking me in the.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Face When I got a giant scoreboard up there with
you know, scores.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Reminding us of who's winning and who's not.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Well, listen, man, I've seen some really wild things as
far as guys doing to kind of get themselves up
for games. There was a teammate I will not tell
you which team. I will not tell you the teammate
because I don't want to out him in that way.
But he would throw up every single game, and it
would be like a violent throw up, like he had
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the flu of something.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I remember you being teammates with McNab.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I never called anyone's name.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I'm just saying everyone had their own rich moves to
kind of get them fired her for a game.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Some listening to music, Oh, there's a lot of people
slap them in the face. You have a warm up
routine to get yourself.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Fired up, Zach, just listening to a classic Nick Ferguson
pep talk. That's what does it for me that actually
gets me fired Me too, Me too. I just wish
we could have seen John Henderson in the days of
Deacon Jones or John Henderson.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Deacon Jones matchup.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I feel like that's a great Superman Kryptonite.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Battle that could have been. I don't know, yes, so
now I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I needed to John Henderson and Ray Lewis on the
same defense, so that Ray's given the speech and then
he has to punch John Henderson in the face just.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
To end it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Listen, if you need all of that to get here
for the game, may God bless you.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But I will say this for any of our listeners.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
If you've ever played the sport, you wanted to play
a sport but you didn't, what would you do to
kind of get yourself kind of games?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean, do you have music that you like? You know?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean when I work out now every once
in a while, yes, I believe it, or I do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Work there there's one song that I start the playlist
off with. Really yeah, Sobrina matters Espresso. I do not know.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
No, it's uh, speaking of which, I got something to
show you later during the break that I cannot show
you right now.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's not that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's just like something she did at her show and
I'm like, but why would you do this?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Moving on?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well, see once again, everyone does what they do, but get.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Do you have something like Steady for Steve it's uh,
hell a cool J. He had Hello cool J to
hype him up before the before games. Yeah, everybody Steve
that water For me? It was Michael Jackson, You rock
my whirl?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Why you do the dance too. Did you get the
lake kick coing and the did you wear one glove?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I didn't wear one glove.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But but if you caught me in the bathroom getting
my mind prepared looking in the mirror, you might have
seen the dance move here or there, but have been Nah.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, when I spend, when I spending, we're not doing that.
I get a leg cake. Well we're not. We're not spinning.
But everyone has the thing. But I just can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Having someone smack you in the face till you actually
bleed your own blood.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, that is just not my That is just not
my thing. I'm not there. I'm not there for that.
I do have like okay, so.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But you didn't have like other than that, you didn't
have like a song or anything that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
What about you, Zach.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You gotta you got a song that like hypes you
up before lifting or playing or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Lumberjack Tyler the Creator. I've been going to that one recently.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's something you'll never guess mine like ever, especially if
you're already on Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Mm guessing binds.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It was probably Captain into Neil, which bright the way
the hell. Yeah he didn't know. Way that is.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But if your name, if your real legal name is
Darryl Dragon, why are you changing your name to the captain?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, Darryl Dragon's okay, that's a cool name. Just dragged
in to the Neil Well, I just.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Want to come off a little different, right, I want
to cater to a different audience.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Is downgraded. It could have been the Dragon in to
the age the captain.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Well, what with the with the type of music he
was singing. Dragon really did not fire Man didn't actually bring.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That across the famish law. That's all I'm saying. Sat says.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Someone once told me NFL players use caffeine suppositories to
get revved up?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Is that true? What this is? This is not ESPN playmakers,
but suppositories, caffeine suppositories. Listen, did you ever do you know? No, don't, don't.
This is not even burst that subject at all. That
capitol end capitol that's it.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Not so much, not so much ever, but a five
hour energy which.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
By the way, last night I interviewed you weren't here.
We had a short show last night. I had to.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I interviewed Alan Roach because he's doing that new uh
DJ you know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Ballparty dip and uh.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Apparently at some point he had gotten approached by Howard
Stern to be the play by play guy for a
wine butt chugging contest.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But Alan couldn't bring himself to say butt chugging on
the air. See that sounds because I ask the weirdest
thing you ever did? What's the weirdest to give it?
Turned down? Yes, yeah, I turned down. I turned that down.
But he was talking about he actually went and did
down in Florida a it was like a hair dresser convention,
hair dresser something like that. Yeah, and he said cooking
(25:29):
now from Vidalsa soon.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, that's kind of a waste of a great voice for.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Telling you about Alan rown something that they're paying me
for it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Of course they pay you for it. So it's been
let us know. You know, he does have.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
A price, if he if he will. Everybody has a price,
March everyone. I promise you, every single person has a price.
There is a dollar amount that every moral that you
have is flexible for a dollar amount, I promise there
is for some people that's lower than others.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Something going out with Bob what would embarrass you you
would be willing to do for a certain amount of money.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Everyone has a price. A lot of people play for
the Jacksonville Jaguars neck Raiders out there. Yeah, I did
like opportunity. Just a Raiders slander.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Browns was the first team that came to mind, but
I couldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
He was just standing here, you can't do that, but yeah,
back a horror slander and you just let you just
let it go for some Jags.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
What are you willing to do for money?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
By the way, the answers uh dreams of nightmares meek Mill,
Except I do the instrumental version.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I don't. I don't like because like the first third
of that that rap, like I'm like, all right, this
is good, and then after that I'm like this sucks.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But like the the the instrumental like where it starts
off with like the whistle piano and then it starts
doing it's.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Just been I don't know what it is. But the
build on the build the build up on that is
is ridiculous. Yeah, it's well, it's really well done.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like the first third lyric is all right, but then
after that it's like, okay, I was like, all right,
this is slam, you know. Once he starts talking about
that I got, you know, then I started doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
With Mariah after that. I'm like about.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And that another kind of song that will kind of
get me, you know, fired up. The play is uh
that Rocky four soundstrack? Okay, yeah, well when Rocky fought
I'm in Drago right that that was so for me
growing up. That was so American for to kind of
watch that movie, but to to listen to survivor sing
those songs.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, I was only one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
By the way, Prophet just texted us instead of if
that comes back bumping back with muskrat Love, he's out.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He's changing the channel from Captain. So yes, it's uh,
don't pay captail like captainl fan Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I profit celebrates their tire catalog five six six nine
zeros text, I got a big show coming up justin Adams,
Oh my god, really muskrat Love, Yeah, we actually have
a system.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I'm surprised we don't have dreams and nightmares.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But I got you all the you can't the extremely
edited version. They probably might have the instrumental you can't.
You can't do it on the instrumental. Good guys.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
They've got a surprisingly poor selection on modern music.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
It makes makes a lot of sense. We've got a
big show justin. Adam's going to join us top of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Talk a little bit more about see you and the
coaching hires they got there. I want to get into
Kendrick Perkins. You had some hard, harsh criticisms of the
Denver Nuggets. We'll get to those, uh in a little bit.
Do you care about this Matt hawk shiming bec Is
this a big deal at all? Hawk's a left footed punter.
It previously worked with Darren Rizzy.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
We mentioned on this show.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I think it was Friday that that was probably the guy.
I think everybody else was focused on the CSU punter
on the Stonehouse, but.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Hawk was the guy. This is this move the needle
for anybody at all? This does Matt? I mean? Is
this we care?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I wish they maybe got a bit of a better option.
Riley Dixon's now one of the highest paid punters in
the league. You're instead going with the guy that's on
the vet minimum hasn't been a starting punter for a
team in either of the past two see. I think
that tells you a little something about where this guy stands,
and you know there might be some better options out
there or maybe even via the draft or undrafted free agent.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Out there worth a look.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
So I hope they don't settle for this, but I mean,
the Piggins were pretty slim at this point.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I can't get too invested.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
If I tell you that Matt Hack ran his forty
or four point five to five, does that make a difference.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
No, because when may we send a punter really go
down there and kind of form someone up with the tackle.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm just saying he's a four or five five putter though.
That's that's something. Well know what it.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Tells me if there is a return of that the
Broncos is facing and a guy breaks loose, maybe.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Hacking just run him down a trip him up.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Because we've seen over the years kickers with some poor
tackling performances, so here.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We have we have we also seen some great punter
tackle performances.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I don't know if you remember Brad Wing down there
at LSU just aim blowing that guy up. That was
pretty sweet.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I think it's like the old Tom Moore quote though
about backup quarterbacks, Like if you you're needing your punter
to run forty yards in a straight line, you're screwed.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Something wrong. Has also been a he's been a trick
play guy.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I don't know if you guys remember or not he
threw that one yard touchdown pass to the kicker.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Jason Sanders in the end zone. You guys don't remember.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Man, We've seen some trick plays by the Denver Broncos
from the punter standpoint. Hey, they they converted on you know,
the fourth down, but nothing else happened.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So do you want to bring in a gadget guy?
I mean, it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Sounds great if you're going to do a lot of
those gadget plays, but you don't want to be in
a position where you're kind of resulting to using gadgets
to cover kicks, kick the ball, cover the fields, fan out,
and have guys that can pin people in their own territory.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
He's a he's a left footed, high angle directional punter.
You know, you go back and you look his yards
for punter not always the highest, but his net is
not is usually not bad. Uh, And so that's that's
sort of been the thing. I don't know, you know,
putter talk moves the needle or not, but I know
it does move the needle. Me espresso exact play my
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pair of tickets to the Never Home Show. Uh, Nick,
we were talking a bit about the punter before we uh,
before we hit traffic there does does that ever does
the special things move the needle at all at all?
Because I mean, I I think I get what they're
sort of doing with this. The Broncos punted the third
most of any team last year. They were the third
They putted the third most times of any team last
(31:45):
year in the NFL. And it's funny because our buddy
Patrick Keyoti had like one of those fake tweets where
he's like, yeah, Boa immediately texted him and said that, uh,
you're not gonna be putting much here. I was like, ah, well,
hold on, now, we putted quite a bit last We're
hoping we pun a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But I don't think we get to say that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't think we get to use that joke if
we were the team the punt of the third most
last year.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, to answer your question, spec teams, it really matters.
I mean, that's the reason Mike Westalf was brought out
of retirement to kind of rekindle the Broncos special team unit,
and he definitely did just that.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But I think for the most part, we don't really.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Talk about the punter as much we talk about kickoffs,
and with the new kickoff rules, it changed a lot
of as far as that conversation is concerned, which, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They're looking to adjust those you saw that today the
Rules Committee stuff that came out there.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
They're looking to adjust the kickoff.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Roll a little bit, move it back so there's more
kickoffs that get returned.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, they can move in back and with the idea
of creating more explosive plays. We'll see how that actually goes.
But there's still some concern about even with them reducing
the amount of space between the players wants the ball kick.
There's still some coaches who have some issues with that,
(32:59):
saying as though to go back to the idea that
concussions are still prevalent even though you have that short distance.
But for the most part, the part that matters most now,
uh is field goals. That's that's the element of the game.
And the Broncos got a great one in and Will
LUTs and Will LUTs uh comes through a lot. Obviously,
(33:21):
you know there was that one playing that Buffalo game.
But uh, I mean, for the most part, he did
a great job. But those are the aspects of the
kicking game that most people are concerned with. You're not
really concerned with the punts until that punter has multiple
punts that's been blocked.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Because when you hear that dumped up yep, boom boom boom. Yes,
that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, that's uh, I mean, you know, I mean, it's
it's for us fun to spend a little.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Time on a putter.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
We never really talked about, you know, that kind of stuff.
Once the potter's mess it up, like you like you
pointed out, Yeah, but I get what they're trying to
do with that, and Obviously he has a working relationship
with derreri Rizzie.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
They go back from there from their.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Days in Miami, so that one wasn't too wasn't too
difficult to call. I don't know if the Broncos have
any free agent signings left in them. I do believe
they're eyeballing a player on the offensive side of the ball.
I think they want to put a veteran running back
in that room. I wouldn't be surprised to see if
he doesn't get all their offers.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
JK.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Dobbins on a cheap deal for the Broncos, What would
you think about that?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I would love that idea. And I understand the business
of football. The longer you wait, you tracking every single
day that these veteran guys are out there, their numbers
keep dropping lower and lower and lower, and then you
throw out something to those players who want to continue
their career. And looking at the fact that the dishes
that the Broncos may offensively and defensively, I mean Broncos
(34:42):
are quickly turning back into that type of plays that
free agents want to come to.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, I will say that, you know, maybe they struggle
a little bit replenishing some of the coaching hires. But
the player has not been a problem for the Denver
Broncos so far.
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We had an ineligible winner there.
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
We got hit break.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
When we come back, Justin Adams is gonna join us
talk a little bit about Sea buffs Hire and the
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
You guys want to get involved in the conversation. We're
on the eve of March mad that's although we got
some playing games going on. Uh here show.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Me the money night obviously on the eazy of your
Texas game, so uh we'll see something with that big
show tonight. Justin Adams gonna join us a little bit
talk about the latest. It's CEU Byron Leftwich has been
added to the staff there at Colorado and then as
yet undisclosed title of those supposedly working with quarterbacks and
on the offensive side of the ball, which would obviously
be his forte Byron Leftwich, the offensive coordinator. I wasn't
(00:39):
necessarily the biggest fan of, but I will tell you
one of my enduring memories of all time is Byron
Leftwich getting carried at with the with the bum leg
and Marsha out the marshall down the field and just
destroy and uh just get you know, as he's being
carried down the field by his offensive line.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And I was huge Byron Leftwich the player fan.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know, it's just just to hear you say that
you were not a huge fan of Byron Leftwich the
office of Coordinator, considering that you were not fond of
Pat Shermer either.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Weird how that works. No, the two are not related. No,
they're not related. But I go back to your disdain
for Pat Shermer.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But also go back somebody's Christian named Punch Shermer. Okay,
well that's what you've referred to a mass.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But then I go back to what Byron Leftwich was
able to do.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
With the angeless wonder Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
How much of that was Byron Lefwich Tom Brad Wait, wait,
hold Dawn, hold dall, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
So, first of all, the idea was that, well.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It wasn't Brady in New England. It was all Bill Belichick.
But Brady went to Tampa to prove that. Guess what
there was.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Still Keith proved it, right, Brady proved it.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But I think, like, are we sitting here calling Josh
McDaniels giving him the credit for all of Tom Brady's
success in New England?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Who want to? I'm not saying that, but give credit
where credit is due.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And the reason I say that because both offensive coordinator,
quarterback coach, and the quarterback himself.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
They work in concerts together. Oh, I agree.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And I'm not trying to take a whole lot away
from Byron Leftwich. How much you try to take away
from him then you say something a whole lot, I'm
not trying to take a whole lot away from him.
I like, I just I feel like, based on what
I know of that situation, that most of that was Tom.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Brady there in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
See for Byron Leftwich, I feel bad for him because
with the fall that's been, he went from OC and
Tampa to interviewing and accepting the head coaching job of
the Jacksonville Jaguars, except they were unwilling to bring in
his guy, Adrian Wilson to be the general manager.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So then the Jaguars walked away from.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Their contract to hire Doug Peterson, and then all bulky,
yeah and balky, and Byron Leftwich had nothing And now
then he's been doing nothing like and now all of
a sudden he speaks back trying as an offensive assistant
at a collegiate level.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But see that that's kind of for me, that's an
indictment on Byron left which is not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And I'm not trying to blame him that I said.
I feel bad for him for that far.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, yeah, because that's an indictment on those who chose
not to hire him. Because in the situation with Jacksonville,
it seemed as though that was kind of a done deal.
Former player comes back to coach his team. That's an
NFL story that writes itself. But Shag Khan fell as though, no,
you know what, we want to bring you in, Trent Barkie,
(03:26):
and we're gonna have Doug Peterson, Doug Peterson.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, I like what I like Doug Peterson. Let
me by saying that.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But the Trent Barkie I never really felt great about
that hire at the GM position. And lo and beho
what has happened thus far? He was fired, right, And
now you look at the situation.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Colin comes in and Colin wants his own guy.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Colin gets his own guy, Bucky. Trent Barkie gets to boot.
But I mean, they wouldn't do that for a guy
like you know. That's that's the thing that bothers me.
You have an opportunity to bring in a former player
in Byron Leftwich, and he wants his own guy, but
(04:12):
you don't allow him to do that, but you allow
someone else to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Shad Connie's only he could do whatever you want to.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But as far as Byron Leftwich is concerned and his
ability as an OC, he worked well with Tom Brady
and vice versa, with the formation he used, how he
deployed the plays Tom had to execute. So when I
think about the fact of Byron left Wish being at CU,
(04:39):
to me, it puts a smile on my face because
two years ago I remember seeing Byron Leftwich amongst many
other celebrities. They're at CEU on the sideline, so it
was inevitable as far as that was going to happen.
I'm happy about this, But I'm wondering your guy, your
guy Kyt Strammer, how was he feeling about this?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Maybe that seats get a little sweaty. I don't know.
Oo ooh ooh sweaty. I don't know. Maybe it is.
I don't know. We need some TP for that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm just I'm just saying that seat might be getting
a little bit warm.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I mean, like as far as uh, as far as
the rest of it goes, I think he's a value
ad to see you. I'm not trying to take anything
away from him in that regard. I just you know,
I don't want to. I don't want people thinking that,
you know, when I look.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
At this, I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't look at this is we're hiring an offensive
genius or we're hiring a good offensive mind who's worked
at the NFL level before we'll see what he is.
I give a lot of the Tampa credit to Byron Left,
which I mean he was fired from Tampa. They fired
him after the Brady thing was gone. They fired him
back in twenty twenty three, and he hasn't done anything since.
And so for me, I'm like, Okay, I think he's
a value ad because I think he's a I think
(05:45):
he's a good mind to have in this room. I
hope that he is able to rehabilitate his reputation to
the NFL in a man or college football wait, in
a manner that puts him back in the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
How was his reputation tainted in any way?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Because how you know you said the Bucks decided to
fire him.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Is that tainted love? As far as Barral Luftwich is concerned,
I mean, if you get fired.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
If you're the guy that just came off a Super
Bowl and you get fired and nobody else hires you,
what does that say?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That does say that?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That doesn't say a whole lot to maybe unless there
is an underlining story to it that just tells me, well,
maybe his run with Tom Brady, you know, ran of course,
because Tom is out.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now he's out.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
We've seen that type of situation happen before, when the
head coach brings in his own guys.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Head coach is gone, these other guys leaving. Well, coach
was hau I mean this was Ty Bowles. Ty Bowles
fired him after four seasons. Uh there with Tampa.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, to me, that means and I don't know this,
and I'm only speculating that could have been the difference
of opinion. Maybe not with Todd Bowles, but maybe someone
else in management. We've seen that happen before.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, I mean Bruce Arians was kind of running the
show there in the front office, and that was Byron
was his guy?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Okay, Well, that could have been a discrepancy with those
some guys, because we know disagreements happened all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
To say Byron was Bruce Arians guy?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I totally understand that, but I don't feel, based.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
On the level of production we saw in the.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Field, that what we've seen with Byron's career has been warranted.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And I would like to think maybe that coach Prime made.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
This move with that in mind, because we know about
the frivolous farce interviews up in New England.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, and we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We've certainly seen guys get fired that probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Have been fired as soon as they were.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Whatever you think of Steve Wilkes one year as a
head coach at in Arizona with Josh Rosen like that
doesn't even make sense. The only reason they did it
the other way was because they got Kyler and and
you know, Cliff, and they knew what they were, you know,
they knew what they were getting out of that. I
didn't have anything to do with if Steve Wilkes was
turning the programmer on her.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The situation that happened in Arizona. I'm glad you brought
that up. It was more or less that Kingsbury was
going to be offered the OC job. He didn't want
the OC job job, he wanted the head job. So
Arizona said, you know, what we're gonna fire Wilkes, which
that's a disservice him, just like David.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Cully with the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean that was well even Lovey, itested like
both those guys were fired before. I mean, what are
you doing hiring somebody for one year? And they did
Kully and Lovey back to back, right.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So the reason I bring that up is that on
the surface, it looks like, well, that team parted weighs
with that coach after one year because that coach was
viewed as not.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Being able to lead that team and not having the goods.
But there's more underlining.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Issues to why those situations worked out the way they did,
which I'm thinking and I don't know this per se,
but that may there may have been an underlining issue
as to why Barren Leftwich was outed at Tampa Bay
and was still trying to find a job. Because there's
some terrible coaches and there's some terrible OC's in the.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Udio debate there.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
We're in lockstep total agreement there, and there are some
backwards thinking organizations when it comes to we're in lockstep
on that. I just like, what for me it gives me,
It makes me hit the pause button. What I'm like,
Wait a minute, this is a four year o s
coming off a Super Bowl paired with Tom Brady under
the You know a guy Bruce Arians is sitting here
vouching for and he gets fired and can't find a job.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
See See that's the part that's wild to me, because
we got guys like the guy you mentioned earlier, Josh McDaniels,
who keeps getting jobs and he's back in New England.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And that's what Josh McDaniels has never met the upwards.
He can't fail to exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And what we used to say when I played with like,
if you find yourself in a situation like that, someone's got.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Some dirto someone, he's got someone, he's got the fruit.
Like the way he's in the JFK files have not
been released yet is because Josh McDaniels are still holding
on to him. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I'm just saying here, I like this, this concept and
this idea of Bonning left Wich being in Boulder for
so many reasons. Because you have a guy who has
NFL experience now adding to a staff with several coaches
with prior NFL experience, and if you were to look
at college football as a whole and say, well, which
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teams have the most NFL experience, I would like to think,
without having the numbers in front of me, it would
be the CU Bus.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Now, is that guaranteeing success? No it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But there are two guys on the bus roster that
this move benefits the most, Juju and Cayden Soltz's.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I agree with that. I do agree. Having his
brain in the room is a huge plus.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Exactly because he is a guy who's played the game.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, but problem has made an effort to do that.
I mean, if you look at this staff, it's it's
either NFL coaches or guys who played You.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Look at the guys he's brought in.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The mounta Peca Warren Sapire left, which Marshall fulk.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You look at the guys he's added to the staff.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Whatever you think of his managerial style, he's adding cachet
to the staff. These guys have been there, they've done it.
You know, there's certainly something to be said to that.
And I think it's fascinating because in a way, and
so I was talking to somebody about this today and
it's an African American jomer like yourself, and he called
Colorado black North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So he did.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He's like, he's like, he's like, they're trying to do
the same thing at NC except they're trying to do
it the white guy way. Like he was having this,
you know, he was having this conversation with and I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, it's sort of funny. But he's like, he's like,
but you're going to see a divide here.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You're going to see that Dion, you know, I mean,
he's gonna get then both guys are going to get
people to both you know, it's just getting colors or
whatever you want to call it. But he but he's like,
he's trying to create a certain culture here and and
Bill's trying to create These are the NFL pipelines.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They're doing it two different ways, but these are.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The NFL pipelines going forward if these two programs take off.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay, So yes, you're absolutely right in that regard. And
this is what I called the coach Prime effect because
this is why I know Carolina did what they did.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Belichick realized that the diver was cast. He wasn't going
to get another NFL job. He might have got that
Dallas job. But I don't know if if he felt
he was going to get a Dallas job, he should
have held out.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I think I think I think Jerry played it too
Koy with his people is what I think happened.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now. I don't think those two guys would have Max
because Parcels is down there for a minute and that that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Didn't want that didn't Once again, that's my point.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Bill didn't work with Bill, Parcells didn't work with Jerry,
and then Bill Belichick wasn't going to work. Now Bill
Belichick was brought in to try to capitalize off of
the momentum. Hints why the nd season Hard Knocks is
not in the NFL anymore. It's at North Carolina, but
to try to capture that same thing that well off
media has done for the see you buffs. But when
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I look at Barron Leftwich and I go back to
the two young quarterbacks, the biggest thing is that familiarity.
This is why Prime is bringing in guys with prior
NFL experience where you were a player, whether you were
a coach. But the biggest thing for me as two
African American quarterbacks at CU following an African American quarterback
(12:55):
in Shador.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It is great for those young men first and foremost
to see someone.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That looks like them that is played on the highest
level of professional sports. Even though when Byron Leftwiz came
in in Jacksonville, he was that guy and then later.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
On became a backup or whatever. But being able to see.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Someone that looks like you with a similar skill set
that can help coach and walk you through that that's
not the same someone who is not African American can't
do that. But there's another subsets of things and criticism
that you'd have to deal with as an African American quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The other the quarterbacks don't. Oh, I believe it. It was
funny because the same general we're having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And that same guy, same guy, same guy, we're having
this and he's like Byron Leftwich was the first black
quarterback that didn't play like a black quarterback because he
was a pocket.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
He wasn't fast or anything was. He wasn't athlete.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
He was a pocket passer who reminded you kind of
Drew Bledsoe, you know, because the wide stance, he had,
the rocket Ford arm, all that kind of stuff. He
reminds you of a player of Drew Bledsoe in a
lot of ways. There was a shame injuries, kind of
kind of hurt, and you know, he didn't really pan out.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They ended up going with David Garrard.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I think a little later in Jackson Bill and and
and Byron finished his career as a journey moment, I
think with those Steelers.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But it was, you know, it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Was funny he was ma because he was like, yeah,
Barrol Lwich was the first guy where you were you
saw a black pocket passer, an African American pocket passers.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's the uncommon and you were like in the era.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Of Vic, you know, it was one of those things
where it was like exactly what you were saying, it's
somebody that looks like me that doesn't the plays like them.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, in a way, you know, well, and it helps
because you got the athletic quarterbacks. And when you look
at the thirty two guy teams in the NFL, several
of those thirty two quarterbacks are very mobile quarterbacks that
can move and know how to throw on the run.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So for me, it's the best of both worlds.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
For those guys, they're all mobile in their own right,
but he can teach them the fundamentals of being able
to sit in the pocket, something that a lot of
gms are still looking for because a lot of mobile
quarterbacks get criticized because it's said that well they they're looked,
they looked to take off before was standing in the pocket.
(15:01):
Trying to go through that last progressive. But I'll tell
anyone if he ever played the game of football, but
more importantly at the quarterback position, you better have some
mobility to you because these guys are getting faster and
they smacked your head off.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That they will five six six NS zero's text one.
You guys want to get to all the conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Left, which, by the way, I think was a lot
more successful in Jacksonville than people remember. He had a
twenty four and twenty record, despite those being some pretty
bad Jags teams. He had fifty eight touchdowns or excuse me,
fifty one touchdowns to thirty six picks.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But the problem was.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Over the last two years he missed. He missed a
couple of games in four and then he was five
games and five and they had David Garrard come on
and won a couple of games. They roll with that
and you know kind of what could have been if
they you know, maybe if they'd stuck with it or whatever.
But I thought, I mean I liked I always liked
Bayern Leftfoish the player, I will say, even if he
was stuck on those Jack del Rio teams down there
(15:55):
in Jacksonville. But they had had some players on some
of those teams. Man, I mean it was Jimmy Smith
a d the end there. Uh you had Frank Taylor was.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Down there in Jacksonville. He don't not mistaken. Maurice Jones
Drew joined the team. Mercedes Lewis was on that team
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He had a tight end named George Reichster on that team.
I think you and I both know.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yes, yeah they had, uh, yeah they had. I don't
know if j d was on those early teams and
he was later raft Gara though, yeah, Garage. They drafted
Matt Jones.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't know if you remember Matt Jones before Jimmy
got him into the into the snow.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But Matt Jones was uh wede receiver, man, he was.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
He was long in rangy and he didn't really look
like he was running fast.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Story for you by Matt Joe's two.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
He was six foot six two twenty two and he
ran a forty and four to three. He played quarterback
down there at Arkansas. He was on the basketball team too,
which is steven. After football, just go play basketball. That
dude was the most laid back guy you ever met.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He slept through a tornado in high school.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
A tornado hit touchdown, was going through and narrowly missed
their house.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And at what point did he wake up? He did?
He woke up later like that was a thing. He
slipped through a tornado.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That's that's either ridiculous or that's nerves of steel.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
One of the other. I don't, I can't are you
with I'm just gonna ask.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Was Big John Henderson on those teams, the guy who
you know got fired up getting smacked upside do?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I remember playing against him and in the tunnel someone
would smack him in the face. He would go to
one of the trainers and it wasn't one of these
white smacks. It's just like like someone stole something from you,
smack in the face, right, and it was hard and
somehow that got him up to playing. And I guess
it pissed him the heck off, because are some of
our teams when we played against him. He's always had
(17:43):
great games against the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He had some some good defensive players on those teams,
because they did had Marcus Stroud was on there, John Henderson,
Reggie Hayward, Paul Speiser, they had.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
They had some some decent defensive lines back time.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
They had some guys. But when where the rubber meets
the roll, they were not able to put the necessary
performances together. That was kind of a problem. I remember
playing against Jacksonville uh and left, which was a quarterback,
you know, shameless plug.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yes I picked him off. Yes, I'm sure it did.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
When you go when we go up there to Colorado
for pro you going up for prode, We're going up
there for day, Nick's gonna we canna get a ball.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You can bring that ball to you be like, hey,
I'm gonna get this autograph for a real quick and
camember to see. You know.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The idea is to be welcome and boulder, not to
be kicking out right, So.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Turn this to you.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that. I'm
just hey, listen, I'm just here to watch and cheer
on some players. But in that same game, That's where
I mean, I knew a lot about John Lynch, but
I learned more about John Lynch in that game because
Dominic Fox was one of our corners and we had
this this rule where you had to get guys on
the ground, and Dominic Fox were just struggling with this
(18:58):
runner can't really get on the ground. And I'm running
towards the ball and I see John and I'm saying
to myself, get him on the ground, get him on
the ground.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And Foxy waited entirely too late.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
The runners saw him and moved and John hit foxyncussion
out for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes, that's the worst. We got a big show. Justin
Adams is.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Gonna join us a little bit, talk a little bit
about this spiring left which hire I want to get into. Uh,
some of the Broncos free agent moves. They signed the
Potter today. We talked about Matt Hack. I think on
this show a couple of days ago. If I don't remember,
I can't remember which day it was they signed him.
Today we got some tickets Differs Home Show to give
away at of course the NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
More we come back Broucous Country night. I gotta start
coming to these pre show meetings Nick. When you hype
yourself up like that, Listen, man, I had Nick Ferguson
hyping himself up before the show.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
No, no, no, I had different ways to get myself
gassed up for a game, but it was never allowing
someone to small be in the face until they drew blood. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, I'm good on that. I don't need I don't
need that. I don't need it. That's sad to me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's like, I mean, if that's what works for you,
I'm not gonna sit there and like like dog somebody
that works.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
For Well, why do you need that? Like you can't
you can't find some other motivation there?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Look man to it to eats his own like like
in Dodgeball, what the guy said, No one.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Makes me bleave my own blood. No one. So it's
one of those things. I just to me losing his
humiliating That's that's enough. I don't smacking me in the.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Face When I got a giant scoreboard up there with
you know, scores.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Reminding us of who's winning and who's not.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Well, listen, man, I've seen some really wild things as
far as guys doing to kind of get themselves up
for games. There was a teammate I will not tell
you which team. I will not tell you the teammate
because I don't want to out him in that way.
But he would throw up every single game, and it
would be like a violent throw up, like he had
(20:59):
the flu of something.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I remember you being teammates with McNab.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I never called anyone's name.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I'm just saying everyone had their own rich moves to
kind of get them fired her for a game.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Some listening to music, Oh, there's a lot of people
slap them in the face. You have a warm up
routine to get yourself.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Fired up, Zach, just listening to a classic Nick Ferguson
pep talk. That's what does it for me that actually
gets me fired Me too, Me too. I just wish
we could have seen John Henderson in the days of
Deacon Jones or John Henderson.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Deacon Jones matchup.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I feel like that's a great Superman Kryptonite.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Battle that could have been. I don't know, yes, so
now I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I needed to John Henderson and Ray Lewis on the
same defense, so that Ray's given the speech and then
he has to punch John Henderson in the face just.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
To end it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Listen, if you need all of that to get here
for the game, may God bless you.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But I will say this for any of our listeners.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
If you've ever played the sport, you wanted to play
a sport but you didn't, what would you do to
kind of get yourself kind of games?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean, do you have music that you like? You know?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean when I work out now every once
in a while, yes, I believe it, or I do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Work there there's one song that I start the playlist
off with. Really yeah, Sobrina matters Espresso. I do not know.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
No, it's uh, speaking of which, I got something to
show you later during the break that I cannot show
you right now.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's not that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's just like something she did at her show and
I'm like, but why would you do this?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Moving on?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well, see once again, everyone does what they do, but get.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Do you have something like Steady for Steve it's uh,
hell a cool J. He had Hello cool J to
hype him up before the before games. Yeah, everybody Steve
that water For me? It was Michael Jackson, You rock
my whirl?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Why you do the dance too. Did you get the
lake kick coing and the did you wear one glove?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I didn't wear one glove.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But but if you caught me in the bathroom getting
my mind prepared looking in the mirror, you might have
seen the dance move here or there, but have been Nah.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, when I spend, when I spending, we're not doing that.
I get a leg cake. Well we're not. We're not spinning.
But everyone has the thing. But I just can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Having someone smack you in the face till you actually
bleed your own blood.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, that is just not my That is just not
my thing. I'm not there. I'm not there for that.
I do have like okay, so.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But you didn't have like other than that, you didn't
have like a song or anything that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
What about you, Zach.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You gotta you got a song that like hypes you
up before lifting or playing or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Lumberjack Tyler the Creator. I've been going to that one recently.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's something you'll never guess mine like ever, especially if
you're already on Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Mm guessing binds.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It was probably Captain into Neil, which bright the way
the hell. Yeah he didn't know. Way that is.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But if your name, if your real legal name is
Darryl Dragon, why are you changing your name to the captain?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, Darryl Dragon's okay, that's a cool name. Just dragged
in to the Neil Well, I just.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Want to come off a little different, right, I want
to cater to a different audience.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Is downgraded. It could have been the Dragon in to
the age the captain.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Well, what with the with the type of music he
was singing. Dragon really did not fire Man didn't actually bring.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That across the famish law. That's all I'm saying. Sat says.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Someone once told me NFL players use caffeine suppositories to
get revved up?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Is that true? What this is? This is not ESPN playmakers,
but suppositories, caffeine suppositories. Listen, did you ever do you know? No, don't, don't.
This is not even burst that subject at all. That
capitol end capitol that's it.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Not so much, not so much ever, but a five
hour energy which.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
By the way, last night I interviewed you weren't here.
We had a short show last night. I had to.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I interviewed Alan Roach because he's doing that new uh
DJ you know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Ballparty dip and uh.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Apparently at some point he had gotten approached by Howard
Stern to be the play by play guy for a
wine butt chugging contest.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But Alan couldn't bring himself to say butt chugging on
the air. See that sounds because I ask the weirdest
thing you ever did? What's the weirdest to give it?
Turned down? Yes, yeah, I turned down. I turned that down.
But he was talking about he actually went and did
down in Florida a it was like a hair dresser convention,
hair dresser something like that. Yeah, and he said cooking
(25:29):
now from Vidalsa soon.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, that's kind of a waste of a great voice for.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Telling you about Alan rown something that they're paying me
for it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Of course they pay you for it. So it's been
let us know. You know, he does have.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
A price, if he if he will. Everybody has a price,
March everyone. I promise you, every single person has a price.
There is a dollar amount that every moral that you
have is flexible for a dollar amount, I promise there
is for some people that's lower than others.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Something going out with Bob what would embarrass you you
would be willing to do for a certain amount of money.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Everyone has a price. A lot of people play for
the Jacksonville Jaguars neck Raiders out there. Yeah, I did
like opportunity. Just a Raiders slander.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Browns was the first team that came to mind, but
I couldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
He was just standing here, you can't do that, but yeah,
back a horror slander and you just let you just
let it go for some Jags.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
What are you willing to do for money?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
By the way, the answers uh dreams of nightmares meek Mill,
Except I do the instrumental version.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I don't. I don't like because like the first third
of that that rap, like I'm like, all right, this
is good, and then after that I'm like this sucks.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But like the the the instrumental like where it starts
off with like the whistle piano and then it starts
doing it's.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Just been I don't know what it is. But the
build on the build the build up on that is
is ridiculous. Yeah, it's well, it's really well done.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like the first third lyric is all right, but then
after that it's like, okay, I was like, all right,
this is slam, you know. Once he starts talking about
that I got, you know, then I started doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
With Mariah after that. I'm like about.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And that another kind of song that will kind of
get me, you know, fired up. The play is uh
that Rocky four soundstrack? Okay, yeah, well when Rocky fought
I'm in Drago right that that was so for me
growing up. That was so American for to kind of
watch that movie, but to to listen to survivor sing
those songs.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, I was only one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
By the way, Prophet just texted us instead of if
that comes back bumping back with muskrat Love, he's out.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He's changing the channel from Captain. So yes, it's uh,
don't pay captail like captainl fan Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I profit celebrates their tire catalog five six six nine
zeros text, I got a big show coming up justin Adams,
Oh my god, really muskrat Love, Yeah, we actually have
a system.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I'm surprised we don't have dreams and nightmares.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But I got you all the you can't the extremely
edited version. They probably might have the instrumental you can't.
You can't do it on the instrumental. Good guys.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
They've got a surprisingly poor selection on modern music.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
It makes makes a lot of sense. We've got a
big show justin. Adam's going to join us top of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Talk a little bit more about see you and the
coaching hires they got there. I want to get into
Kendrick Perkins. You had some hard, harsh criticisms of the
Denver Nuggets. We'll get to those, uh in a little bit.
Do you care about this Matt hawk shiming bec Is
this a big deal at all? Hawk's a left footed punter.
It previously worked with Darren Rizzy.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
We mentioned on this show.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I think it was Friday that that was probably the guy.
I think everybody else was focused on the CSU punter
on the Stonehouse, but.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Hawk was the guy. This is this move the needle
for anybody at all? This does Matt? I mean? Is
this we care?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I wish they maybe got a bit of a better option.
Riley Dixon's now one of the highest paid punters in
the league. You're instead going with the guy that's on
the vet minimum hasn't been a starting punter for a
team in either of the past two see. I think
that tells you a little something about where this guy stands,
and you know there might be some better options out
there or maybe even via the draft or undrafted free agent.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Out there worth a look.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
So I hope they don't settle for this, but I mean,
the Piggins were pretty slim at this point.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I can't get too invested.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
If I tell you that Matt Hack ran his forty
or four point five to five, does that make a difference.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
No, because when may we send a punter really go
down there and kind of form someone up with the tackle.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm just saying he's a four or five five putter though.
That's that's something. Well know what it.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Tells me if there is a return of that the
Broncos is facing and a guy breaks loose, maybe.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Hacking just run him down a trip him up.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Because we've seen over the years kickers with some poor
tackling performances, so here.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We have we have we also seen some great punter
tackle performances.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I don't know if you remember Brad Wing down there
at LSU just aim blowing that guy up. That was
pretty sweet.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I think it's like the old Tom Moore quote though
about backup quarterbacks, Like if you you're needing your punter
to run forty yards in a straight line, you're screwed.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Something wrong. Has also been a he's been a trick
play guy.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I don't know if you guys remember or not he
threw that one yard touchdown pass to the kicker.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Jason Sanders in the end zone. You guys don't remember.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Man, We've seen some trick plays by the Denver Broncos
from the punter standpoint. Hey, they they converted on you know,
the fourth down, but nothing else happened.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So do you want to bring in a gadget guy?
I mean, it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Sounds great if you're going to do a lot of
those gadget plays, but you don't want to be in
a position where you're kind of resulting to using gadgets
to cover kicks, kick the ball, cover the fields, fan out,
and have guys that can pin people in their own territory.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
He's a he's a left footed, high angle directional punter.
You know, you go back and you look his yards
for punter not always the highest, but his net is
not is usually not bad. Uh, And so that's that's
sort of been the thing. I don't know, you know,
putter talk moves the needle or not, but I know
it does move the needle. Me espresso exact play my
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(31:23):
pair of tickets to the Never Home Show. Uh, Nick,
we were talking a bit about the punter before we uh,
before we hit traffic there does does that ever does
the special things move the needle at all at all?
Because I mean, I I think I get what they're
sort of doing with this. The Broncos punted the third
most of any team last year. They were the third
They putted the third most times of any team last
(31:45):
year in the NFL. And it's funny because our buddy
Patrick Keyoti had like one of those fake tweets where
he's like, yeah, Boa immediately texted him and said that, uh,
you're not gonna be putting much here. I was like, ah, well,
hold on, now, we putted quite a bit last We're
hoping we pun a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But I don't think we get to say that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't think we get to use that joke if
we were the team the punt of the third most
last year.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, to answer your question, spec teams, it really matters.
I mean, that's the reason Mike Westalf was brought out
of retirement to kind of rekindle the Broncos special team unit,
and he definitely did just that.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But I think for the most part, we don't really.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Talk about the punter as much we talk about kickoffs,
and with the new kickoff rules, it changed a lot
of as far as that conversation is concerned, which, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They're looking to adjust those you saw that today the
Rules Committee stuff that came out there.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
They're looking to adjust the kickoff.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Roll a little bit, move it back so there's more
kickoffs that get returned.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, they can move in back and with the idea
of creating more explosive plays. We'll see how that actually goes.
But there's still some concern about even with them reducing
the amount of space between the players wants the ball kick.
There's still some coaches who have some issues with that,
(32:59):
saying as though to go back to the idea that
concussions are still prevalent even though you have that short distance.
But for the most part, the part that matters most now,
uh is field goals. That's that's the element of the game.
And the Broncos got a great one in and Will
LUTs and Will LUTs uh comes through a lot. Obviously,
(33:21):
you know there was that one playing that Buffalo game.
But uh, I mean, for the most part, he did
a great job. But those are the aspects of the
kicking game that most people are concerned with. You're not
really concerned with the punts until that punter has multiple
punts that's been blocked.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Because when you hear that dumped up yep, boom boom boom. Yes,
that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, that's uh, I mean, you know, I mean, it's
it's for us fun to spend a little.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Time on a putter.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
We never really talked about, you know, that kind of stuff.
Once the potter's mess it up, like you like you
pointed out, Yeah, but I get what they're trying to
do with that, and Obviously he has a working relationship
with derreri Rizzie.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
They go back from there from their.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Days in Miami, so that one wasn't too wasn't too
difficult to call. I don't know if the Broncos have
any free agent signings left in them. I do believe
they're eyeballing a player on the offensive side of the ball.
I think they want to put a veteran running back
in that room. I wouldn't be surprised to see if
he doesn't get all their offers.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
JK.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Dobbins on a cheap deal for the Broncos, What would
you think about that?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I would love that idea. And I understand the business
of football. The longer you wait, you tracking every single
day that these veteran guys are out there, their numbers
keep dropping lower and lower and lower, and then you
throw out something to those players who want to continue
their career. And looking at the fact that the dishes
that the Broncos may offensively and defensively, I mean Broncos
(34:42):
are quickly turning back into that type of plays that
free agents want to come to.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, I will say that, you know, maybe they struggle
a little bit replenishing some of the coaching hires. But
the player has not been a problem for the Denver
Broncos so far.
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We got hit break.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
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