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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Country tonight, I've been with all Brian Nickferguson, Zach seekers back.
They're producing five six six nine zero is the text line.
You guys want to get involved in the conversation. Nine
nine says how soon can we get JK. Dobbins in
the building. Uh, well, if he's a free agent, then
you can sign him and have him in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
As soon as the league year starts. So there you go. Well,
all you need to do is have the price dropped out.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, doroncos have I think they've got If I go
back in a check, I think they've got about seventeen
million in cap space, give or cake. But really that
you know, you got to set aside five to eight
about eight million, four rookie for draft picks and undrafted
free agents, so really you're working with about a nine million.
You want to leave little cushion in there in case
you sign somebody, but somebody gets hurt. So you know,
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I suspect if you can get JK. Dobbins on something
like a two million dollars deal something like that, then
I think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The question is waiting Hi out until he gets to
that point. The price needs to go low. Low low
low low. Also Nick Ferguson's hype up suck Yeah, I
can't wait.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Comes through a hotline though, and bring on our guides.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Just how you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm doing well man?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Anytime I can hear Nick talk about going low blow
low man, I'm wondering what Sean mall.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But you know what, well, we certainly appreciate that. I'm
looking forward.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Maybe we can get like a limbo contest you and Nick,
which will play get low on there. We'll see who
can actually uh limbo under that bar.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'll stand by and provide moral support and not embarrassed much.
So you need those boots with the spurs, man don't.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Work, you know what I'll see. I don't know about
the boots though.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't think I got those order words with the
fur either way.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Justin as we look at today, see who makes a
higher man that you know?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I think some people saw coming a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Some people may not have Byron left Wish joining the
staff that uh Dion has dis shambled already, rich with
NFL and former NFL talent. What do you think about
the move to bring in Byron Leftwish.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I think it's nice. I thought it was something that
should have happened a couple of years ago. If you
remember the young man Underwood signed with Michigan to look
at some of the videos were well off videos where
he was being recruited by SeeU, because I remember there
was a moment where under What actually went and committed
to see you for about a week or two and
then went to LSU and then got paid a major
bag and went to Michigan. But Iron Luff which was
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there talking to him and so on. Of the rumors
at the time was, oh, Yron Lefferts is going to
be on the staff, and that didn't happen, But it's
not a surprise that it happens now. And it's one
of the things that you're really seeing from, you know,
coach Prime, what he's putting together from a staff perspective,
going from his first year where he had a lot
of college coaches, a lot of guys with college experience,
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so last year where he was able to get guys
like Warren Sap to bring you that NFL experience, and
as he was saying, he's more comfortable with these guys now,
this was to the point where year A number three
he has really nothing but guys with NFL experience on
the roster, and so you know, it's all about teaching,
and as long as viron efforts can be a great teacher,
this is going to get great gifts of us, of.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Which you know, coach brom has so many guys with
NFL experience, whether they were coaches or whether they were players.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So my question to.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You, just kind of mentally spanning, you know, the world
of college football is this the best coaching staff in
college football today?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Let me say, to be determined, I would say able
to go jackets wise, for sure, But it's all about
can you relate to the young men at every position,
because when you say the greatest coaching staff, we're talking
about staff that, for example, Bill McCartney had right When
you look at all those guys and years out, you
see head coach, head coach, leaders of programs, administrators one
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where or the other. So to me, I would say
it's going to take some time at the end of
sev's actually going to be the best staff overall, But
I would say this it's the most experienced and the
most successful from what they have done on the field,
that's without a doubt. But when you do see guys
like Lauren Staff for example, and he's talking about how
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he's able to go in, yes, talk about what worked
for him, but also to work with other players and
to see what works for them as well. Like, that's
the type of experience that as you and I know
both of those guys who has playing football, that is
just going to pay dividence.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And the end talker that guy Justin Adams here, you know, Justin.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think it's it's interesting because Prime has made a
commitment to establishing the culture you know here at Colorado,
and that's sort of been I think the launching pad
for expectations and resurrecting this what once was proud and
then was a dead program. And there really hasn't been
a lot of success over the years post McCartney here
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at Colorado. I think McIntyre had one year, but beyond that,
color really hadn't be relevant.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Dean didn't come in here and saying look, I'm going
to build a great team.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He started with building the culture and brought some players
in and made it a place where other people wanted
to be involved in it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is that the roadmap to success in the NIL era?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, it really is. First of all, you have to
have the bad number, you have to have the players.
It really helps out what you have on a top
five draft pick in the most important position. You have
a top three draft pick in not only at wide
receiver but also at qrarnerback. So whenever you could say
we're going to reboot a program, but oh, by the way,
let me get a first round quarterback and also a
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Heisman Trophy winner at wide receiver and corner that really
helps out the process of you being able to put
that culture and everything together. And guys, it's not just
by having those guys for one year. It's about having
them for the second year, because we all know that.
Initially you get the voice in and people are going
to adjust, and even with the bus they had to
adjust with the first year at four and eight. But
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then that second year where you start to win those
close games, you start to get those wins against Baylor,
and you start to flip things around as a program
where you end up at nine to four with a
Holiday Bowl invite. So we'll see how things will continue
to go. But this program is definitely going in the
right direction.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Well, justin as a guy who's familiar with the officer
side of the ball, Tell me what do you think
about the Buffs.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And Zach Atkins?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
And the reason I asked because over the past two
season we haven't really seen a lot of production and
explosion from the tight end position, but it appears as
though the Buffs and Pat Schumer wants to utilize the
tight end this year. What do you how do you
think Zach Allens kind of fits in excuse me, Zach
Atkins fits.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Into him what he wants to do offensively?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Well, the first thing is to you block, because we
know that you can't be out there as a tight
end if you can't block. So that's my first thing
that I want to be able to see. And then
after that, brother catch the football. It just you and
I both know the game. You're playing safety in the NFL.
If you have a tight end who is able to
open up the middle of the field, it just opens
up the rest of your offense. And also, the tight
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end is your easiest completion because that's your shortest target generally.
So when you can have a tight end like Atkins
who can be able to make things happen. So Belle Smalls,
who's playing another year at the position at tight end
after changing and switching positions from d N going the
tight end, Like, all those different things help you out,
But the biggest thing for me isn't just what you
could do from the receiving game. It's again going back
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to blocking. We're talking about a team that averages seventy points,
not seventy points, but seventy yards a game on the ground,
and you don't have stre door anymore if you don't
have a guy who has that experience, or you could
just how the ball around forty to forty five times
and say you're okay on offense, you're going to have
to run the football. And if you're going to be
successful in this type of offense that they're going to
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put out this season, would you better be able to
run the pill And that starts by having really good
running backs one, but number two having great blockers up front,
and that's where Atkins can really help out this team
as well as with his receiver.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, let's go still further with that then, because Pat
Shermer has his roots in, you know, in twelve personnel
based West Coast offense, you know, two tight ends running
the football. You brought Byron Leflich obviously when he was
a quarterback. Obviously they had great running backs running the
ball there in Jacksonville. You know, when he was doing that,
they brought in Marshall fall I think everybody knows, you know,
as a great running back. Do you see see you
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pivoting to a stronger ground game this year?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
There you have to and the strength of the team
is going to be on defense. So I think there's
a couple of things. Number One, it's very interesting that
through the transfer portal they didn't pick up a running back.
Now you have Marshall Faulk there, and trust me, Marshall
falk is not going to waste his time. He's going
to look for guys. Generally, when you coach right, you
look for guys who play the game like you, who
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see the game like you have seen it. And if
those guys aren't up, it's enough then we can see
some players be shown the door. Remember this is how
things are in nil eraror it used to be, Okay,
well you have the scholarship. We got to make it
work with this player. We'll develop them, we'll do all
these different things. Nowadays, it's hey, man, if you're not
working out on these fifteen practices that in spring ball
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and we don't see it, or if Marshall Falk doesn't
like what he sees, then you're going to see it change.
And we're also going to see other players open up
in the transferport as well. I mean, imagine this. You
have the opportunity to play with a twelve year vet,
a Pro Football Hall of Famer, and to be coached
by him. You don't think that if things aren't working
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out at whatever university you're at, that you're not going
to leave and test out the waters that see you.
I think the Bus are going to get a lot
more calls and have an opportunity to get more elite talent,
which is the reason why springball is so important for
the running back group right now, because they're going to
be relied on heavily this season for the Bus, just
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because of the inexperience for the most part that they
have at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Justin you hit on something that's really important, whether it's
the pro game of the college game, and that is
being able to relate to the players and bringing in
a guy like Barron Leftwich.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What does that do for Cadence Solzier and Juju Lewis.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
And what I mean by that is that these guys
have a certain skill set, and Barron Leftwood had a
certain skill set as a quarterback, and he was more
of your traditional quarterback as far as standing in the pocket.
But there's an extra element to me and I want
to see if you see it the same way with
these young African American quarterbacks being able to be coached
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by another African American quarterback who played on the highest level.
What do you think that that impact on how that's
going to impact these two young quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, first of all, just from a language side, just
from different things that we don't even have to mention.
You already walk into the room and say, Okay, I
understand your language. I understand what you're talking about. Where
you're coming from, we have similar we have similar things
in that side number one, And so you're able to
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go and talk to these players at a different way.
You're able to challenge these players now at a different
manner as well. So that really helps out when you
talk about Katie Falter or Psalter and also Julian Lewis.
But I also take this a step further. We forget
about Ryan's a whole lot as well. A white quarterback
who's not going to be coached by a black quarterback
who has done it at the highest level in the NFL,
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and he's going to have an opportunity to see a
different shade literally of coaching, to see somebody who in
Byron Leftwich, who was twenty four and twenty six in
his career, had didn't throw more than fifteen touchdown passes
in a single season. He was an individual who saw
the highs of his career going to the playoffs, also
won a Super Bowl with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but also
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saw the lows as well. He could go and relate
to anybody in that room because you could say, I
know how it feels to be one of the starting
quarterbacks in the NFL, and I also know how it
feels to be a guy who's a backup as well.
So will you talk about full circle and relating in
every area in every way. That's exactly what to begin with.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Byron Leftwich t right again with our guy Justin Adams
last one for me spring game, coach Prime is unveiling
something new that I was telling Nick.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Mean, why did nobody think of this before, and it's
bringing in an opponent for the spring game. You know,
controlled scrimmage, news practice. There's all kinds of stuff you
can do with that, And I just wonder why nobody
has tried this before. Do you see a downside to
having a live opponent the spring game.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
No, there's absolutely no downside. And you could say, well,
what about injuries or what about if guys could you know,
pick a player up through nil and they see a
player and they want him. It is what it is.
I mean, you could do that right now. You don't
need to go in honestly, go in play up to
get somebody. If someone wants to leave, they could just
go and leave and injuries happen. It's a game of football,
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right Every time that you went on a helmet and
shoulder pads and some cleats, there is a possibility that
you could get injured in this collision sports. So I
absolutely love it. I haven't played that some coaches thought
about this one way or the other, about hey, we
could go in you know, practice against another team. I
think logistically there was an issue for one reason or another.
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I'm just trying to think of the reasons why this
wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Happened, right.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But for me this is a great idea. Some would
say Syracuse right. The coach of Syracuse set out of
tweet saying hey, let's make it happen. There's some other
individuals to say, hey, you can go with North Carolina
for example. I do know this is that if there's
one way that you want to get better is that
you go against other individuals and you find out who
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you have. And especially when you talk about this era
of nil and the transfer portal, you don't want to
waste time and your fall practices trying to figure out
what you have. It will help out everybody, the team
that you're going up against and your roster as well,
to find out what you have and to see what
you need to go in, what changes you need to
make are your roster in order to have the best
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chance to win on Saturdays when the games really count, really.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Quick before we let you get out of here.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I have to ask this question when Byron Left was
coming in and knowing as though there were some questions
about Pat Shermer play calling over the past two years,
do you think his addition somehow puts as my co
host Benjamin Albright would say, put a sweaty bottom underneath
the underneath the Pat Shermer.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
He doesn't have a sweaty bottom. He has some sweaty
boots with her. I'll put it that way right now. Okay,
So least to say, at least sometimes the way that
you get your job is the same way that you
can lose your job. Remember Pat Shermer got the job
originally when Sean Lewis wasn't doing his job as the
original offensive coordinator for the Colorada Buffalos. Then here comes
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Pat Sherman later on in the first season. If Pat
doesn't do his job, and Prime is always talking about that,
Deionceaders is always talking about as always looking to improve
at every area, if he's not doing his job, RPO system,
West Coast System, whatever they want to use this year,
if it's not working, do you better believe an individual
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who had an interview for the head coach position with
the New England Patriots, who also was interviewed for the
Seattle Seahawks for offensive coordinator in viron Lefwige would definitely
have a great opportunity to take over as OC for the.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Bus targo guy Justin Adams.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Justin working that people find you, Hey, find me online
at Justin Adams t TV. You can also find me
tomorrow morning on CBS Colorado. Hey man, I'm gonna be
outside anchoring, riding front of ball arena myself and Michelle Diriego.
We're gonna have a whole lot of fun getting everyone
ready for the NCAA tournament. Eight teams doing a thank
here in my high city. So come on out, man,
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Speaker 3 (15:26):
We'll be all right there you are, dr folks here
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your hand tomorrow. I'll see you down there, all right.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I appreciate you, brother. Let's think it happens.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, man, take care of Justin Adams, a boy.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I just react to that.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Plus talk a little bit about what Kenny Perkins was
saying about these nuggets.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
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Kenny Perkins had some pretty harsh criticisms of the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And uh, I mean, when you think about what Perk says,
sometimes some of it makes some sense and then some
other things not so much. But I think he might
have hit the nail on the head when he made
these comments about the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
The biggest concern when it comes down to the Denver
Nuggets is what those minutes, those non yokish minutes look like.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And look, when you think about the guys.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
That they lost when they won the championship. You talk
about Carl will Pope, you talk about Bruce Brown, you
talk about Jeff Green, all those guys were able to
slide their puppies defensively right now, This devil Nuggets team,
they couldn't guard the senior citizens at recess. You know,
at recess, right now, get to the wheel them outside
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every now and then get some sunlight. I'm just telling you, yeah, sorry,
defensively and that's not go cut it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, yes, I mean, look, he was spitting some claims
there when you're talking about the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But I have to agree with him. I've been saying
this for a while.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
The Nuggets defense is their offense, and it's a scary
thing to think that if Nicola Yokis were to get injured,
how do the Nuggets actually recover. Now, I will say this,
watching the Nuggets play the Golden State.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Warriors without Ki Murray Brawn, to me, that was.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
The thing of beauty because you know, I think Russell
had a triple double, he had like sixteen assists in
twelve points.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And Aaron Gordon, who had missed some time, he came back.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And those two guys alone were kind of the energy
and the new toy is Yes, So for me, the
Nuggets are showing with Jamal Murray being out, Nikola Jokis
sitting down, and Kristan Brown sitting down as well. I'm
just gonna call the load management because coach Malone knows that. Listen,
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you canna win these games now. But for either of
those two guys, Jamal Murray and Kola Jokis, they were
to get injured, it really puts the Nuggets in a conundrum.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But defenses continue to be their problem.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
And if they can't solve that liddle that conundrum, that's
gonna be a problem and it's gonna prevent them from advancing.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We're gonna start.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Calling the Enver Nuggets because there's been no d at
all happening out there, and it's it's it has it's
been a problem all year. And that's one of those things.
Michael Malone is a defensive guy, Like that's his thing.
That's he's calling card as a coach is that he's
the defensive guy. And I think you're right because they
have sort of made their offense their defense this year.
But they're gonna have to find the way to play
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a little bit better, you know, a little bit better
on defense, at least show some effort on defense. Once
you get into those those uh, once you get into
those those series, because you know you can't outshoot everybody
every night.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
There's gonna be nights where you're just cold. There's gonna
be nights where are on your opponent's court. You're just
not gonna not gonna be hitting at the same rate.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And so you've got to find a way to if
you're not gonna play defense a whole game, you've got
to find something that you can rely on.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Where you can get defensive stops and key moments.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That allow you to be able to do to get
your guys rest. You can't leave Nicola Yokic out there
on the court for forty two minutes a game. You know,
and and expect to make deep runs in the playoffs,
and they expect to make a deep ruk. They expect
to be a contender.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I know when you talk to most people here from
a media standpoint and also a fan standpoint, and Dave
Logan always talks about this. He trusts the Denver Nuggets
in the seven game series against anyone, right, And I
didn't understand because of Nikola jokicch But I don't like
that frame of mind. Is because you're wearing down Nakola Jokish,
and that is the guy who is the lispin for
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the Nuggets offensively and defensively. We've seen him improve his
defense over the years. But constantly being in seven game series,
it's got to be exhausting and knowing is okay, you
want to get the team here, you want to get
them in this altitude and play against them. Well, the
Nuggets are gonna have to go on the road, right
and you don't want to constantly be in one to
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three seven game series because in that last series, now
you are tapped out.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, and you're not gonna be a team that can
outshoot okay, see night in night out. You know, you've
got to be able to find ways to at least
selectively get the stops that you need excuse me and fan,
find ways to slow down your opponent in play some defense.
And you're at the point of the season where you
need to have that figured out. You got to have
that car in your pocket because we're deep in the
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season at this point, we're getting ready to start heading
to the playoffs. You're getting some problem some load management
nights for some of these guys. You know, at this
point the season just based on where you are. But
the dude, you got to figure something out because you
can't be, you know, an all offense team expecting to
go deep in the playoffs. You think that's gonna ask
Mike dan Tony about that. You can get through the season,
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get a high seed, and then you get the playoffs.
It's just like playoffs and football. You got to play defense.
You're not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, and maybe enough two a year's past where that
was somewhat of the formula, and maybe it's enough to
get the Nuggets through maybe the first round. But as
you go deeper into playoffs, and then you're thinking about
facing teams like Boston. Okay, see you mentioned and a
couple of weeks ago they faced the Lakers team and
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the Lakers played them well like they faced the Lakers
team recently without Luca and without Lebron, and the Lakers
almost won the game if it wasn't full Westbrook, you know,
his anticipation stealing the inbounds and then dunking it to
kind of cap off the game.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So you have to be able to get stops.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And coach Malone is trying to figure out what lineup
is going to allow him to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So with and once again, you.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Know, I know both jamal And and Nikola yolkids are
listed with ankles and I'm giving you air quotes because
are they really ankles or low management? Idea is that
this time he coach Malone should use this to figure out, Okay, well,
who of my best bitch guys who are playing right
now that in the in the pinch I can go
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to if we need to put this group on the
floor to stop the onslaught of our opponent offensively.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, and I think it's a great time. I mean,
if you are going to have those guys out for
ankles and I'm doing air quotes in the studio, quotes
or load manager, whatever you got about for this is
a great time to sort of figure out who those
guys are gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Who's gonna be my.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Energy guy off the bench, Who's who's that hustle defender,
Who's that guy that's uh you know out there that's
gonna be the hustle rebound guy.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You've got to find who those those guys are so
that you can find what guys because you shorten your
bench in the playoffs, right you, you tend to tie
it up because there's guys you trust and guys you don't.
And so I think when you get to the playoffs,
you want to find that guy that can be that
guy that can give you limited minutes and especially how
you can work your rotations to get Nikola Jokic appropriate
amounts of rest without dumping games.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
By doing it.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Now, you want to make sure that that is a
possibility because there is a long term I would like
to think a long term strategy and a short term
strategy with Nikola Jokic, try to maximize the best years
of his career, but also preparing for the future knowing asa, Okay, well,
we're gonna Nikola Jokis is going to get us to
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these particular games, and we're gonna surround him with so
much talent that you're gonna take the stress off of him.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That is yet to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And I know the Nuggets have had some injuries.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Eric Goren is now coming back, and you know, I
trust the Nuggets at full stret But once.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Again, you're still looking at bench play. Can your bench
play match the bench of other teams. That's where the.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Rubb is going to meet the row, but that was
that would be a big disheartening thing if somehow over
this particular season the color Jokic is exhausted and.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He just he just out of gas.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, and that's the thing you gotta find.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean, I thought Aaron Gordon did really well, you know,
manning sort of the center position when they had all
those guys out the other night. But you've got to
find something that works because Gordon's kind of you're doing
old guy right, and you can't count on him to
be the guy who is always going to step up
in those situations. I mean, you have to have one
other guy that's that's able to step up when you
when you want to, because what if Aaron is.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Having it off night, it happens.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So you're gonna have to find some other body in
there that could be that big man that can give
you ten minutes if you need it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, how much of that is on the players themselves,
like he's all the player?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Well, yeah, because you mentioned you know, Michael Malone, he
comes from the background of defense with his father, you know,
coaching with the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But once again, we've seen him in.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
This situation before where he's balked out of this team
when they didn't perform well defensively, Then that next night
you get one hundred percent from them.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But it's like, how how is it that he's he
should be able to get that all the time from players.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And the reason I say that because we're talking about
professional athletes, guys who get paid an enormous amount of money,
just like football players get paid enormous amount of money.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why does a coach as to constantly remind you this
is the culture, this is what we're trying to establish.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Shouldn't that mostly come from the players, and someone needs
to be vocal, But that's not the kooks, right, You've
got to find I mean, you do have to find
that leadership, and you've got to find somebody who is
willing to be that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, we're talking football terms all.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The time, but that having a dog in the locker room, right,
having that guy that will hold somebody, hold people accountable,
that allow vocal guy that hold people accountable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And it's not always the same guy.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's not always the same guy you think of me,
But you're gonna have somebody in there that's that's willing
to be that guy. Nuggets are gotta find that guy.
You got to find somebody who's willing to do that.
And it's not Okay, she's not that dude. I mean
maybe maybe Westbrook is that guy, but does he have
enough cachet at this point to be that guy. You know,
it's not Christian Brown. You know, it's not Michael Porter Junior.
You know, I don't know if Aaron Gordon's that dude
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or not. Doesn't feel like he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Ism all that guy?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, but that's the thing, you know, is he and
Jamal's been inconsistent lately.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I think he needs to find his footing. Uh And
once he finds his footing, that he could be that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But I don't think he's got the you know, I
think he's on skates right now in terms of having
that kind of footing in the locker room because of
the inconsistency.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Okay, But so in order for a.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Guy to step up from the leadership standpoint and call
his teammates to the men and say, well, this is
what we have.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
To do defensively.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
We know what we can do offensively, he has to
have multiple consistent eight plus games in order for him
to really the message can't be.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
The guy calling anybody out if you're the one struggling.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I I can't sit here.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Hey, guys, the show hadn't been up to par lately.
I'm the one struggle bus. I'm showing up late. I'm
not doing anything. You know what I'm calling the show meeting.
I'm called us seers. I call granded guys a show all.
We need to step our game up. You guys are
gonna look at me sinehide because they're like, you know,
you're the one struggle bus dude.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
But but yeah, but okay, in this case with Jamal,
you could say, well.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
He's got skin in the game, Rubby, he's won his championship,
so that that should be able to account for something, because,
like you said, every guy would have an off night.
There's so many games in the NBA, You're gonna have
an off night. So just because I had an off night,
I can't get you had a few of them off
nights though, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's one.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Thing to have an off night.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's one thing you.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Got off months, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Well, what that may be the thing that get me
back on track right to be able to go in
the locker room and tell guys, we need.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
To pick it up.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yes, I need to pick it up too, But I
feed off of your particular energy, So I need you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
To give it back to me. When I'm not performing well,
I'm open for you to criticize me and vice versa.
That's how the nugget shoul be.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think if Jamal's gonna be the dude to do that,
I think it needs to be on a night when
the Nuggets lose. But he has a big game, you
know what I mean, Like he he came through that night. Okay, guys,
here's what you know. I'm big here, but I've been
to the top before. You know, I understand. I'm gonna
have off nights. But tonight it was me tonight.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I need you to step it up here. He needs
you be a porter. I need you to be hustling,
clean up every bit of board you're finding. If you're
not hitting your shot, I need every rebound to be yours,
you know. Gordon, hey man, you gotta shut that guy down.
You can't let him pick up the baseline on you
like that. You gotta throw my bounce, take the file.
They canim remember they can't remember the night he played
Eric Gordon PARAPHRASEE Denzel for a minute, A Denzel impressure
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not very good if you get the point though, I
mean you're saying, like, if you're gonna be that guy,
you gonna step up to the plate and take that
and take that, and you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Call guys out to the face in the locker room.
You gotta be coming off.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
A good night to be able to do that.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
So what happens if someone in that exercise and he's
saying that to them after having a great night, someone saying, oh,
now you want to come after us?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Now, miss I throw hot packs on the court.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Look, I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't make a
hot back on the court joke, because I'm not. But
I'm just saying, you got to come from a position.
If you're coming and you're gonna be authoritative, you have
to come from a position if I've got my own.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Hand handled already before you call other people out right,
I mean, I can think about it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean I think I think there's a way, just like, yeah,
you can't be a sloppy parent who's never around and
then you try to call your kid out for your
for your room, that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Dag, you know what I mean? Like you still look
at you so you can't be a dead be dead
because your kid twice two times all year.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
And I said your birthday card. Now I'm trying to instill.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Some life advice.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know, nobody's buying that.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
No, no, no one's buy that.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
But there is a way I believe when you are
having an off night that you can go and talk
to your teammates.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Okay, I'm with that if everybody struggled or whatever, but
if you like.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
If you went three or seventeen and the rest of
the team was like bawling, then it's kind of tough
to look everybody in the eye.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
But hey, guys, she's what we gotta do.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Well, obviously he can't go and say, you know what,
I'm tired of carrying you guys. You're right, My back
is hey.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I'm back is you.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I tell you, guys, Carrious, you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Know that sounds like something a young visitor and our
right would walk in on.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It to be like Ryan, guys looking to remember the
Titans fired it up in the locker will be like, look.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Guys, here's what'll mess it up. You know, he's looking
at him like when you.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Go get to the corner spot, dude, Yes, but someone
needs to step up and that could be Jamal, that
could be Westbrook because when you look at this team,
no one has gone through as much as Russell Westbrook
is gone, Like I feel like he should be the guy. Yeah,
he should be the guy. And once again, sometimes his
game is not always at a top level. He's not
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scoring twenty points a game, like the other night against
Golden State he only had twelve.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Points, but how many assists that Sometimes sometimes you know,
sometimes you should sometimes you're the Elves exactly.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
But it shouldn't be at a point where you don't
have to be the highest guy on the totem pole
to be able to come into the locker room to
be able to say, hey man, this is not the
type of game that we want to play. This is
not a sign of our culture. That first half wasn't great,
that third quarter wasn't great. We need to get it together.
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Someone's to take charge in a huddle where it's like
coach Malone, don't even talk, I got this.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's what it needs to be.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Because this team has already won a championship. Yeah, right,
So to me, they know what it's like to get
to the mountaintop. The idea is that how competitive it
is to get back.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
That's the thing. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean, EASi you're the most prepared, the hardest working, whatever,
there's still an element of luck to it. So don't
give so be the hardest working team, don't give that,
don't give anybody any free margins.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well that that that definitely needs to be the mindset.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
And I think coach Malone, I don't know him personally,
but just listening to him to talk about defense over
the years, he would relish in the fact that someone
else standing up in a huddle, not him, taking Charleston
and being deserve Westbrook us to get that tan player's
only jacket.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, maybe the members the players, yes, players on his jacket.
I think you would.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I think you'd respect that if that came, because I
mean he has come out a couple of times and
been like you had a soft I mean like you know,
he's just come.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Out and said it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And Eric, going after the Worris game, he made a
comment and say, well, someone referred to Russell Westbrook as
a dog.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And Eric go and said, no, he's not a dog,
he's a wolf. So that wolf needs to howl.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
There you go, and once again when that wolf start
to howl, can the guys in the locker room actually
take the constructive criticism, not destructive constructive.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Criticism, not just take it, take it and apply it exactly.
Ruckus Country night back after this
Country tonight, I've been with all Brian Nickferguson, Zach seekers back.
They're producing five six six nine zero is the text line.
You guys want to get involved in the conversation. Nine
nine says how soon can we get JK. Dobbins in
the building. Uh, well, if he's a free agent, then
you can sign him and have him in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
As soon as the league year starts. So there you go. Well,
all you need to do is have the price dropped out.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, doroncos have I think they've got If I go
back in a check, I think they've got about seventeen
million in cap space, give or cake. But really that
you know, you got to set aside five to eight
about eight million, four rookie for draft picks and undrafted
free agents, so really you're working with about a nine million.
You want to leave little cushion in there in case
you sign somebody, but somebody gets hurt. So you know,
(00:42):
I suspect if you can get JK. Dobbins on something
like a two million dollars deal something like that, then
I think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The question is waiting Hi out until he gets to
that point. The price needs to go low. Low low
low low. Also Nick Ferguson's hype up suck Yeah, I
can't wait.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Comes through a hotline though, and bring on our guides.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Just how you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm doing well man?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Anytime I can hear Nick talk about going low blow
low man, I'm wondering what Sean mall.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But you know what, well, we certainly appreciate that. I'm
looking forward.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Maybe we can get like a limbo contest you and Nick,
which will play get low on there. We'll see who
can actually uh limbo under that bar.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'll stand by and provide moral support and not embarrassed much.
So you need those boots with the spurs, man don't.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Work, you know what I'll see. I don't know about
the boots though.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't think I got those order words with the
fur either way.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Justin as we look at today, see who makes a
higher man that you know?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I think some people saw coming a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Some people may not have Byron left Wish joining the
staff that uh Dion has dis shambled already, rich with
NFL and former NFL talent. What do you think about
the move to bring in Byron Leftwish.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I think it's nice. I thought it was something that
should have happened a couple of years ago. If you
remember the young man Underwood signed with Michigan to look
at some of the videos were well off videos where
he was being recruited by SeeU, because I remember there
was a moment where under What actually went and committed
to see you for about a week or two and
then went to LSU and then got paid a major
bag and went to Michigan. But Iron Luff which was
(02:17):
there talking to him and so on. Of the rumors
at the time was, oh, Yron Lefferts is going to
be on the staff, and that didn't happen, But it's
not a surprise that it happens now. And it's one
of the things that you're really seeing from, you know,
coach Prime, what he's putting together from a staff perspective,
going from his first year where he had a lot
of college coaches, a lot of guys with college experience,
(02:39):
so last year where he was able to get guys
like Warren Sap to bring you that NFL experience, and
as he was saying, he's more comfortable with these guys now,
this was to the point where year A number three
he has really nothing but guys with NFL experience on
the roster, and so you know, it's all about teaching,
and as long as viron efforts can be a great teacher,
this is going to get great gifts of us, of.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Which you know, coach brom has so many guys with
NFL experience, whether they were coaches or whether they were players.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So my question to.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You, just kind of mentally spanning, you know, the world
of college football is this the best coaching staff in
college football today?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Let me say, to be determined, I would say able
to go jackets wise, for sure, But it's all about
can you relate to the young men at every position,
because when you say the greatest coaching staff, we're talking
about staff that, for example, Bill McCartney had right When
you look at all those guys and years out, you
see head coach, head coach, leaders of programs, administrators one
(03:41):
where or the other. So to me, I would say
it's going to take some time at the end of
sev's actually going to be the best staff overall, But
I would say this it's the most experienced and the
most successful from what they have done on the field,
that's without a doubt. But when you do see guys
like Lauren Staff for example, and he's talking about how
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he's able to go in, yes, talk about what worked
for him, but also to work with other players and
to see what works for them as well. Like, that's
the type of experience that as you and I know
both of those guys who has playing football, that is
just going to pay dividence.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And the end talker that guy Justin Adams here, you know, Justin.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think it's it's interesting because Prime has made a
commitment to establishing the culture you know here at Colorado,
and that's sort of been I think the launching pad
for expectations and resurrecting this what once was proud and
then was a dead program. And there really hasn't been
a lot of success over the years post McCartney here
(04:38):
at Colorado. I think McIntyre had one year, but beyond that,
color really hadn't be relevant.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Dean didn't come in here and saying look, I'm going
to build a great team.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He started with building the culture and brought some players
in and made it a place where other people wanted
to be involved in it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is that the roadmap to success in the NIL era?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, it really is. First of all, you have to
have the bad number, you have to have the players.
It really helps out what you have on a top
five draft pick in the most important position. You have
a top three draft pick in not only at wide
receiver but also at qrarnerback. So whenever you could say
we're going to reboot a program, but oh, by the way,
let me get a first round quarterback and also a
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Heisman Trophy winner at wide receiver and corner that really
helps out the process of you being able to put
that culture and everything together. And guys, it's not just
by having those guys for one year. It's about having
them for the second year, because we all know that.
Initially you get the voice in and people are going
to adjust, and even with the bus they had to
adjust with the first year at four and eight. But
(05:39):
then that second year where you start to win those
close games, you start to get those wins against Baylor,
and you start to flip things around as a program
where you end up at nine to four with a
Holiday Bowl invite. So we'll see how things will continue
to go. But this program is definitely going in the
right direction.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Well, justin as a guy who's familiar with the officer
side of the ball, Tell me what do you think
about the Buffs.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And Zach Atkins?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
And the reason I asked because over the past two
season we haven't really seen a lot of production and
explosion from the tight end position, but it appears as
though the Buffs and Pat Schumer wants to utilize the
tight end this year. What do you how do you
think Zach Allens kind of fits in excuse me, Zach
Atkins fits.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Into him what he wants to do offensively?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Well, the first thing is to you block, because we
know that you can't be out there as a tight
end if you can't block. So that's my first thing
that I want to be able to see. And then
after that, brother catch the football. It just you and
I both know the game. You're playing safety in the NFL.
If you have a tight end who is able to
open up the middle of the field, it just opens
up the rest of your offense. And also, the tight
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end is your easiest completion because that's your shortest target generally.
So when you can have a tight end like Atkins
who can be able to make things happen. So Belle Smalls,
who's playing another year at the position at tight end
after changing and switching positions from d N going the
tight end, Like, all those different things help you out,
But the biggest thing for me isn't just what you
could do from the receiving game. It's again going back
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to blocking. We're talking about a team that averages seventy points,
not seventy points, but seventy yards a game on the ground,
and you don't have stre door anymore if you don't
have a guy who has that experience, or you could
just how the ball around forty to forty five times
and say you're okay on offense, you're going to have
to run the football. And if you're going to be
successful in this type of offense that they're going to
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put out this season, would you better be able to
run the pill And that starts by having really good
running backs one, but number two having great blockers up front,
and that's where Atkins can really help out this team
as well as with his receiver.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, let's go still further with that then, because Pat
Shermer has his roots in, you know, in twelve personnel
based West Coast offense, you know, two tight ends running
the football. You brought Byron Leflich obviously when he was
a quarterback. Obviously they had great running backs running the
ball there in Jacksonville. You know, when he was doing that,
they brought in Marshall fall I think everybody knows, you know,
as a great running back. Do you see see you
(08:04):
pivoting to a stronger ground game this year?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
There you have to and the strength of the team
is going to be on defense. So I think there's
a couple of things. Number One, it's very interesting that
through the transfer portal they didn't pick up a running back.
Now you have Marshall Faulk there, and trust me, Marshall
falk is not going to waste his time. He's going
to look for guys. Generally, when you coach right, you
look for guys who play the game like you, who
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see the game like you have seen it. And if
those guys aren't up, it's enough then we can see
some players be shown the door. Remember this is how
things are in nil eraror it used to be, Okay,
well you have the scholarship. We got to make it
work with this player. We'll develop them, we'll do all
these different things. Nowadays, it's hey, man, if you're not
working out on these fifteen practices that in spring ball
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and we don't see it, or if Marshall Falk doesn't
like what he sees, then you're going to see it change.
And we're also going to see other players open up
in the transferport as well. I mean, imagine this. You
have the opportunity to play with a twelve year vet,
a Pro Football Hall of Famer, and to be coached
by him. You don't think that if things aren't working
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out at whatever university you're at, that you're not going
to leave and test out the waters that see you.
I think the Bus are going to get a lot
more calls and have an opportunity to get more elite talent,
which is the reason why springball is so important for
the running back group right now, because they're going to
be relied on heavily this season for the Bus, just
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because of the inexperience for the most part that they
have at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Justin you hit on something that's really important, whether it's
the pro game of the college game, and that is
being able to relate to the players and bringing in
a guy like Barron Leftwich.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What does that do for Cadence Solzier and Juju Lewis.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
And what I mean by that is that these guys
have a certain skill set, and Barron Leftwood had a
certain skill set as a quarterback, and he was more
of your traditional quarterback as far as standing in the pocket.
But there's an extra element to me and I want
to see if you see it the same way with
these young African American quarterbacks being able to be coached
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by another African American quarterback who played on the highest level.
What do you think that that impact on how that's
going to impact these two young quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, first of all, just from a language side, just
from different things that we don't even have to mention.
You already walk into the room and say, Okay, I
understand your language. I understand what you're talking about. Where
you're coming from, we have similar we have similar things
in that side number one, And so you're able to
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go and talk to these players at a different way.
You're able to challenge these players now at a different
manner as well. So that really helps out when you
talk about Katie Falter or Psalter and also Julian Lewis.
But I also take this a step further. We forget
about Ryan's a whole lot as well. A white quarterback
who's not going to be coached by a black quarterback
who has done it at the highest level in the NFL,
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and he's going to have an opportunity to see a
different shade literally of coaching, to see somebody who in
Byron Leftwich, who was twenty four and twenty six in
his career, had didn't throw more than fifteen touchdown passes
in a single season. He was an individual who saw
the highs of his career going to the playoffs, also
won a Super Bowl with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but also
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saw the lows as well. He could go and relate
to anybody in that room because you could say, I
know how it feels to be one of the starting
quarterbacks in the NFL, and I also know how it
feels to be a guy who's a backup as well.
So will you talk about full circle and relating in
every area in every way. That's exactly what to begin with.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Byron Leftwich t right again with our guy Justin Adams
last one for me spring game, coach Prime is unveiling
something new that I was telling Nick.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Mean, why did nobody think of this before, and it's
bringing in an opponent for the spring game. You know,
controlled scrimmage, news practice. There's all kinds of stuff you
can do with that, And I just wonder why nobody
has tried this before. Do you see a downside to
having a live opponent the spring game.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
No, there's absolutely no downside. And you could say, well,
what about injuries or what about if guys could you know,
pick a player up through nil and they see a
player and they want him. It is what it is.
I mean, you could do that right now. You don't
need to go in honestly, go in play up to
get somebody. If someone wants to leave, they could just
go and leave and injuries happen. It's a game of football,
(12:28):
right Every time that you went on a helmet and
shoulder pads and some cleats, there is a possibility that
you could get injured in this collision sports. So I
absolutely love it. I haven't played that some coaches thought
about this one way or the other, about hey, we
could go in you know, practice against another team. I
think logistically there was an issue for one reason or another.
(12:49):
I'm just trying to think of the reasons why this
wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Happened, right.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But for me this is a great idea. Some would
say Syracuse right. The coach of Syracuse set out of
tweet saying hey, let's make it happen. There's some other
individuals to say, hey, you can go with North Carolina
for example. I do know this is that if there's
one way that you want to get better is that
you go against other individuals and you find out who
(13:13):
you have. And especially when you talk about this era
of nil and the transfer portal, you don't want to
waste time and your fall practices trying to figure out
what you have. It will help out everybody, the team
that you're going up against and your roster as well,
to find out what you have and to see what
you need to go in, what changes you need to
make are your roster in order to have the best
(13:34):
chance to win on Saturdays when the games really count, really.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Quick before we let you get out of here.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I have to ask this question when Byron Left was
coming in and knowing as though there were some questions
about Pat Shermer play calling over the past two years,
do you think his addition somehow puts as my co
host Benjamin Albright would say, put a sweaty bottom underneath
the underneath the Pat Shermer.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
He doesn't have a sweaty bottom. He has some sweaty
boots with her. I'll put it that way right now. Okay,
So least to say, at least sometimes the way that
you get your job is the same way that you
can lose your job. Remember Pat Shermer got the job
originally when Sean Lewis wasn't doing his job as the
original offensive coordinator for the Colorada Buffalos. Then here comes
(14:20):
Pat Sherman later on in the first season. If Pat
doesn't do his job, and Prime is always talking about that,
Deionceaders is always talking about as always looking to improve
at every area, if he's not doing his job, RPO system,
West Coast System, whatever they want to use this year,
if it's not working, do you better believe an individual
(14:41):
who had an interview for the head coach position with
the New England Patriots, who also was interviewed for the
Seattle Seahawks for offensive coordinator in viron Lefwige would definitely
have a great opportunity to take over as OC for the.
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Bus targo guy Justin Adams.
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Justin working that people find you, Hey, find me online
at Justin Adams t TV. You can also find me
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We're gonna have a whole lot of fun getting everyone
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I just react to that.
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Plus talk a little bit about what Kenny Perkins was
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Kenny Perkins had some pretty harsh criticisms of the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And uh, I mean, when you think about what Perk says,
sometimes some of it makes some sense and then some
other things not so much. But I think he might
have hit the nail on the head when he made
these comments about the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
The biggest concern when it comes down to the Denver
Nuggets is what those minutes, those non yokish minutes look like.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And look, when you think about the guys.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
That they lost when they won the championship. You talk
about Carl will Pope, you talk about Bruce Brown, you
talk about Jeff Green, all those guys were able to
slide their puppies defensively right now, This devil Nuggets team,
they couldn't guard the senior citizens at recess. You know,
at recess, right now, get to the wheel them outside
(17:10):
every now and then get some sunlight. I'm just telling you, yeah, sorry,
defensively and that's not go cut it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, yes, I mean, look, he was spitting some claims
there when you're talking about the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But I have to agree with him. I've been saying
this for a while.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
The Nuggets defense is their offense, and it's a scary
thing to think that if Nicola Yokis were to get injured,
how do the Nuggets actually recover. Now, I will say this,
watching the Nuggets play the Golden State.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Warriors without Ki Murray Brawn, to me, that was.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
The thing of beauty because you know, I think Russell
had a triple double, he had like sixteen assists in
twelve points.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And Aaron Gordon, who had missed some time, he came back.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And those two guys alone were kind of the energy
and the new toy is Yes, So for me, the
Nuggets are showing with Jamal Murray being out, Nikola Jokis
sitting down, and Kristan Brown sitting down as well. I'm
just gonna call the load management because coach Malone knows that. Listen,
(18:23):
you canna win these games now. But for either of
those two guys, Jamal Murray and Kola Jokis, they were
to get injured, it really puts the Nuggets in a conundrum.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But defenses continue to be their problem.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
And if they can't solve that liddle that conundrum, that's
gonna be a problem and it's gonna prevent them from advancing.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We're gonna start.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Calling the Enver Nuggets because there's been no d at
all happening out there, and it's it's it has it's
been a problem all year. And that's one of those things.
Michael Malone is a defensive guy, Like that's his thing.
That's he's calling card as a coach is that he's
the defensive guy. And I think you're right because they
have sort of made their offense their defense this year.
But they're gonna have to find the way to play
(19:04):
a little bit better, you know, a little bit better
on defense, at least show some effort on defense. Once
you get into those those uh, once you get into
those those series, because you know you can't outshoot everybody
every night.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
There's gonna be nights where you're just cold. There's gonna
be nights where are on your opponent's court. You're just
not gonna not gonna be hitting at the same rate.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And so you've got to find a way to if
you're not gonna play defense a whole game, you've got
to find something that you can rely on.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Where you can get defensive stops and key moments.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That allow you to be able to do to get
your guys rest. You can't leave Nicola Yokic out there
on the court for forty two minutes a game. You know,
and and expect to make deep runs in the playoffs,
and they expect to make a deep ruk. They expect
to be a contender.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I know when you talk to most people here from
a media standpoint and also a fan standpoint, and Dave
Logan always talks about this. He trusts the Denver Nuggets
in the seven game series against anyone, right, And I
didn't understand because of Nikola jokicch But I don't like
that frame of mind. Is because you're wearing down Nakola Jokish,
and that is the guy who is the lispin for
(20:07):
the Nuggets offensively and defensively. We've seen him improve his
defense over the years. But constantly being in seven game series,
it's got to be exhausting and knowing is okay, you
want to get the team here, you want to get
them in this altitude and play against them. Well, the
Nuggets are gonna have to go on the road, right
and you don't want to constantly be in one to
(20:28):
three seven game series because in that last series, now
you are tapped out.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, and you're not gonna be a team that can
outshoot okay, see night in night out. You know, you've
got to be able to find ways to at least
selectively get the stops that you need excuse me and fan,
find ways to slow down your opponent in play some defense.
And you're at the point of the season where you
need to have that figured out. You got to have
that car in your pocket because we're deep in the
(20:55):
season at this point, we're getting ready to start heading
to the playoffs. You're getting some problem some load management
nights for some of these guys. You know, at this
point the season just based on where you are. But
the dude, you got to figure something out because you
can't be, you know, an all offense team expecting to
go deep in the playoffs. You think that's gonna ask
Mike dan Tony about that. You can get through the season,
(21:17):
get a high seed, and then you get the playoffs.
It's just like playoffs and football. You got to play defense.
You're not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, and maybe enough two a year's past where that
was somewhat of the formula, and maybe it's enough to
get the Nuggets through maybe the first round. But as
you go deeper into playoffs, and then you're thinking about
facing teams like Boston. Okay, see you mentioned and a
couple of weeks ago they faced the Lakers team and
(21:42):
the Lakers played them well like they faced the Lakers
team recently without Luca and without Lebron, and the Lakers
almost won the game if it wasn't full Westbrook, you know,
his anticipation stealing the inbounds and then dunking it to
kind of cap off the game.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So you have to be able to get stops.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And coach Malone is trying to figure out what lineup
is going to allow him to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So with and once again, you.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Know, I know both jamal And and Nikola yolkids are
listed with ankles and I'm giving you air quotes because
are they really ankles or low management? Idea is that
this time he coach Malone should use this to figure out, Okay, well,
who of my best bitch guys who are playing right
now that in the in the pinch I can go
(22:30):
to if we need to put this group on the
floor to stop the onslaught of our opponent offensively.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, and I think it's a great time. I mean,
if you are going to have those guys out for
ankles and I'm doing air quotes in the studio, quotes
or load manager, whatever you got about for this is
a great time to sort of figure out who those
guys are gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Who's gonna be my.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Energy guy off the bench, Who's who's that hustle defender,
Who's that guy that's uh you know out there that's
gonna be the hustle rebound guy.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You've got to find who those those guys are so
that you can find what guys because you shorten your
bench in the playoffs, right you, you tend to tie
it up because there's guys you trust and guys you don't.
And so I think when you get to the playoffs,
you want to find that guy that can be that
guy that can give you limited minutes and especially how
you can work your rotations to get Nikola Jokic appropriate
amounts of rest without dumping games.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
By doing it.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Now, you want to make sure that that is a
possibility because there is a long term I would like
to think a long term strategy and a short term
strategy with Nikola Jokic, try to maximize the best years
of his career, but also preparing for the future knowing asa, Okay, well,
we're gonna Nikola Jokis is going to get us to
(23:38):
these particular games, and we're gonna surround him with so
much talent that you're gonna take the stress off of him.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That is yet to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And I know the Nuggets have had some injuries.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Eric Goren is now coming back, and you know, I
trust the Nuggets at full stret But once.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Again, you're still looking at bench play. Can your bench
play match the bench of other teams. That's where the.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Rubb is going to meet the row, but that was
that would be a big disheartening thing if somehow over
this particular season the color Jokic is exhausted and.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He just he just out of gas.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, and that's the thing you gotta find.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean, I thought Aaron Gordon did really well, you know,
manning sort of the center position when they had all
those guys out the other night. But you've got to
find something that works because Gordon's kind of you're doing
old guy right, and you can't count on him to
be the guy who is always going to step up
in those situations. I mean, you have to have one
other guy that's that's able to step up when you
when you want to, because what if Aaron is.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Having it off night, it happens.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So you're gonna have to find some other body in
there that could be that big man that can give
you ten minutes if you need it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, how much of that is on the players themselves,
like he's all the player?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Well, yeah, because you mentioned you know, Michael Malone, he
comes from the background of defense with his father, you know,
coaching with the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But once again, we've seen him in.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
This situation before where he's balked out of this team
when they didn't perform well defensively, Then that next night
you get one hundred percent from them.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But it's like, how how is it that he's he
should be able to get that all the time from players.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And the reason I say that because we're talking about
professional athletes, guys who get paid an enormous amount of money,
just like football players get paid enormous amount of money.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why does a coach as to constantly remind you this
is the culture, this is what we're trying to establish.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Shouldn't that mostly come from the players, and someone needs
to be vocal, But that's not the kooks, right, You've
got to find I mean, you do have to find
that leadership, and you've got to find somebody who is
willing to be that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, we're talking football terms all.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The time, but that having a dog in the locker room, right,
having that guy that will hold somebody, hold people accountable,
that allow vocal guy that hold people accountable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And it's not always the same guy.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's not always the same guy you think of me,
But you're gonna have somebody in there that's that's willing
to be that guy. Nuggets are gotta find that guy.
You got to find somebody who's willing to do that.
And it's not Okay, she's not that dude. I mean
maybe maybe Westbrook is that guy, but does he have
enough cachet at this point to be that guy. You know,
it's not Christian Brown. You know, it's not Michael Porter Junior.
You know, I don't know if Aaron Gordon's that dude
(26:20):
or not. Doesn't feel like he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Ism all that guy?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, but that's the thing, you know, is he and
Jamal's been inconsistent lately.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I think he needs to find his footing. Uh And
once he finds his footing, that he could be that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But I don't think he's got the you know, I
think he's on skates right now in terms of having
that kind of footing in the locker room because of
the inconsistency.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Okay, But so in order for a.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Guy to step up from the leadership standpoint and call
his teammates to the men and say, well, this is
what we have.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
To do defensively.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
We know what we can do offensively, he has to
have multiple consistent eight plus games in order for him
to really the message can't be.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
The guy calling anybody out if you're the one struggling.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I I can't sit here.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Hey, guys, the show hadn't been up to par lately.
I'm the one struggle bus. I'm showing up late. I'm
not doing anything. You know what I'm calling the show meeting.
I'm called us seers. I call granded guys a show all.
We need to step our game up. You guys are
gonna look at me sinehide because they're like, you know,
you're the one struggle bus dude.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
But but yeah, but okay, in this case with Jamal,
you could say, well.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
He's got skin in the game, Rubby, he's won his championship,
so that that should be able to account for something, because,
like you said, every guy would have an off night.
There's so many games in the NBA, You're gonna have
an off night. So just because I had an off night,
I can't get you had a few of them off
nights though, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's one.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Thing to have an off night.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's one thing you.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Got off months, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Well, what that may be the thing that get me
back on track right to be able to go in
the locker room and tell guys, we need.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
To pick it up.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yes, I need to pick it up too, But I
feed off of your particular energy, So I need you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
To give it back to me. When I'm not performing well,
I'm open for you to criticize me and vice versa.
That's how the nugget shoul be.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think if Jamal's gonna be the dude to do that,
I think it needs to be on a night when
the Nuggets lose. But he has a big game, you
know what I mean, Like he he came through that night. Okay, guys,
here's what you know. I'm big here, but I've been
to the top before. You know, I understand. I'm gonna
have off nights. But tonight it was me tonight.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I need you to step it up here. He needs
you be a porter. I need you to be hustling,
clean up every bit of board you're finding. If you're
not hitting your shot, I need every rebound to be yours,
you know. Gordon, hey man, you gotta shut that guy down.
You can't let him pick up the baseline on you
like that. You gotta throw my bounce, take the file.
They canim remember they can't remember the night he played
Eric Gordon PARAPHRASEE Denzel for a minute, A Denzel impressure
(28:35):
not very good if you get the point though, I
mean you're saying, like, if you're gonna be that guy,
you gonna step up to the plate and take that
and take that, and you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Call guys out to the face in the locker room.
You gotta be coming off.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
A good night to be able to do that.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
So what happens if someone in that exercise and he's
saying that to them after having a great night, someone saying, oh,
now you want to come after us?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Now, miss I throw hot packs on the court.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Look, I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't make a
hot back on the court joke, because I'm not. But
I'm just saying, you got to come from a position.
If you're coming and you're gonna be authoritative, you have
to come from a position if I've got my own.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Hand handled already before you call other people out right,
I mean, I can think about it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean I think I think there's a way, just like, yeah,
you can't be a sloppy parent who's never around and
then you try to call your kid out for your
for your room, that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Dag, you know what I mean? Like you still look
at you so you can't be a dead be dead
because your kid twice two times all year.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
And I said your birthday card. Now I'm trying to instill.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Some life advice.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know, nobody's buying that.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
No, no, no one's buy that.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
But there is a way I believe when you are
having an off night that you can go and talk
to your teammates.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Okay, I'm with that if everybody struggled or whatever, but
if you like.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
If you went three or seventeen and the rest of
the team was like bawling, then it's kind of tough
to look everybody in the eye.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
But hey, guys, she's what we gotta do.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Well, obviously he can't go and say, you know what,
I'm tired of carrying you guys. You're right, My back
is hey.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I'm back is you.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I tell you, guys, Carrious, you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Know that sounds like something a young visitor and our
right would walk in on.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It to be like Ryan, guys looking to remember the
Titans fired it up in the locker will be like, look.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Guys, here's what'll mess it up. You know, he's looking
at him like when you.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Go get to the corner spot, dude, Yes, but someone
needs to step up and that could be Jamal, that
could be Westbrook because when you look at this team,
no one has gone through as much as Russell Westbrook
is gone, Like I feel like he should be the guy. Yeah,
he should be the guy. And once again, sometimes his
game is not always at a top level. He's not
(30:34):
scoring twenty points a game, like the other night against
Golden State he only had twelve.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Points, but how many assists that Sometimes sometimes you know,
sometimes you should sometimes you're the Elves exactly.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
But it shouldn't be at a point where you don't
have to be the highest guy on the totem pole
to be able to come into the locker room to
be able to say, hey man, this is not the
type of game that we want to play. This is
not a sign of our culture. That first half wasn't great,
that third quarter wasn't great. We need to get it together.
(31:07):
Someone's to take charge in a huddle where it's like
coach Malone, don't even talk, I got this.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's what it needs to be.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Because this team has already won a championship. Yeah, right,
So to me, they know what it's like to get
to the mountaintop. The idea is that how competitive it
is to get back.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
That's the thing. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean, EASi you're the most prepared, the hardest working, whatever,
there's still an element of luck to it. So don't
give so be the hardest working team, don't give that,
don't give anybody any free margins.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well that that that definitely needs to be the mindset.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
And I think coach Malone, I don't know him personally,
but just listening to him to talk about defense over
the years, he would relish in the fact that someone
else standing up in a huddle, not him, taking Charleston
and being deserve Westbrook us to get that tan player's
only jacket.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, maybe the members the players, yes, players on his jacket.
I think you would.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I think you'd respect that if that came, because I
mean he has come out a couple of times and
been like you had a soft I mean like you know,
he's just come.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Out and said it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And Eric, going after the Worris game, he made a
comment and say, well, someone referred to Russell Westbrook as
a dog.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And Eric go and said, no, he's not a dog,
he's a wolf. So that wolf needs to howl.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
There you go, and once again when that wolf start
to howl, can the guys in the locker room actually
take the constructive criticism, not destructive constructive.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Criticism, not just take it, take it and apply it exactly.
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