03-26-24 George Chahrouri with Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Go right back on out to theka Common Spirit Health Hotline. We've got
a good buddy, George Trufnbro FootballFocus George. How's it going, it's
going. How are you? We'redoing all right, by the way,
and apropos of nothing. Someone emailedmyself and Ryan Edwards last night and sent
us a h e painting that theyhad done, and they knew nothing about

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this bit or the show. Someonehad passed it along to them and it
was a half horse, half drewlock like oil painting. They had done
the Centaur painting independent of this,so they said, I need afford it
on to you, So I gottaget your email later. We gotta.
I gotta send this thing on toyou. Obviously you'll want to frame it
and put it up in your inyour hallway somewhere. The painting was a

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gift, Todd. It's sexual andviolent. I was I didn't know what
the painting would be of as youwere talking about it, but I'm just
I'm seeing the scene. I'm seeingVince Vaughn tied up, you know,
in the bed and wedding crashers.And when you told me that it was
Centaur, I mean literally that's basicallywhat that painting is up. You know,

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it's pretty incredible, So yes,I need it. I need a
copy. If the person that didit is out there and wants to paint
another one, I will hang itin my office. That is a collector's
on him. We'll look at it. Everybody suddenly clamoring to get J.
J. McCarthy back in February.Early February ofe was Deebuer eighth when I

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posted that the league is higher onJJ McCarthy and lower on Michael Pennocks and
Bonnicks than fans and media. Iwas roundly laughed at when I suggested McCarthy
was going top ten. In fact, if you search those replies, they
were absolute gold. Now but aswe get closer and closer to this draft,
we're starting to have that firmed up. It's probably going to be four
quarterbacks going the first four picks.JJ McCarthy's odds at number two suddenly fall

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into two ridiculous levels. And Idon't even think he's the favorite there.
But whatever, as we look atthis, are you as I don't maybe
confidence is not the right word,but but certainly as uh as certain that
four quarterbacks will go in the inthe top six picks, maybe even top
four. Yeah, I think Ithink so. And I think the question

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is if there's enough teams that arefar enough back that are probably thinking to
themselves, well, one of thoseis going to make a play. And
so if it's not me, thenI'm missing out right, and I think
there's there's one of those teams willbite. Now the reason I'm not sure
it's four in the top four isthat it just really depends how much a

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team values, like the Cardinals asan example, how much they think of
Marvin Harrison Junior. Right, ifyou think he is the next like Calvin
Johnson type prospect, then maybe you'reyou're really reticent to trade down. But
otherwise, I mean, personally,I think that's ridiculous. That's the only
way that I think you don't endup with four four in the top four.

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It's really interesting when you talk abouttwo because I'm kind of in agreement
that there's a lot of different opinionabout the three quarterbacks after Caleb Williams,
depending that no one has salured onCaleb because he has a pig phone case.
But so I think that's really interesting. I could honestly see McCarthy going

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at two just because he's young.He's got great mechanics, and his pro
day was great. Not that we'veseen that before. Was a guy that
went number two and it not workedout. So I think he could go
anywhere from two or four. Ithink any of those guys could. And
if I had the guests, Iwould say that four quarterbacks feal one,
two, three, four in thedraft. Well, Joyce, here's something

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that has transpired over the last coupleof days through the owner's meetings, and
there's several things, but the onething that stuck out to me is this
whole idea of having five potential teamstaking part in the in season series of
hard knocks. Do you think that'sa great thing to do or you think
there's more of a distraction for thosefive teams? A good question. I

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generally think that more content is better. I don't I haven't really heard anything
in terms of it being a,you know, major distraction for those teams.
Now, I'm sure that if youstart asking the teams that are in
playoff contention, you know, todo this, it will be a bit
of a you know, a thing, and I'm not sure how exciting it

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is to follow teams who are youout of it, So I don't know
how that ends up working. Igotta be honest with you, guys,
I think there's so much in seasongoing on that you don't need it.
Like I think the out of seasonhard knocks, right, you're all excited,
you're ramped up. The in seasonhard knocks, to me, is

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not is not super compelling just becauseyou've got football. The biggest breakdown from
football is two days, so youknow you don't really need it in my
opinion, But I think it's harderto try and do as great of a
production as they do pre season formultiple teams. So it's a tough one.
It's one of those things where maybeif it ain't broke, don't don't
try to fix it. Well,things that are broke, or at least

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the NFL is trying to fix nomatter what the kickoff rule, the hip
drop tackle or quotes rule. Arethere any things about these rules that you
like or dislike in terms of whatthey've they've come up with and voted on
so far. I think the hipdrop tackle is ridiculous. I mean,
I've heard obviously people are going tocomplain, they're going to complain about everything,

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but the biggest detriment to the sportof football are the injuries. There
is no I have not seen someonelike post a highlight of a successful hip
drop tackle and go, this iswhy I watch football. If you do
that, have it so well likeI don't. The people that are kind
of crying and complaining about this needto get over it and realize that they're

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just trying to complain. Injuries arethe thing that that single handedly most distrusts
the value of the league, andso they're right to try and get rid
of it. And I think thekickoffs are kind of similar. Kickoffs have
the super boring for a pretty longtime. Shout out to Sam short Seam
who basically came up with this thisrule and trialed it out in the XFL

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and did a ton of its fantasticanalysis and research and iteration to get to
this kickoff rule. I think it'sgreat. The reason I think it's great
is not necessarily anything to do withdo I agree with this methodology or not.
What I love about it is thatit provides a new wrinkle to the
game that will require teams to adjustand to strategize, and so you will

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see teams that are smart and dothis type of thing well get an advantage
over teams that don't. And that'sgreat, right An you can introduce something
new that requires teams to adjust,I think it benefits the viewer, and
I think we'll see some really interestingstrategy around the kickoff. I think you'll
look at a kick returners being alittle different. I would say a kick

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returner is now more of a fastrunning back who can hit the hole.
You can read blocks well. Ithink the people that are on and that
the players that are on the kickoffreturn it will be different. You'll be
thinking of them more, maybe asblockers in a traditional sense. So I
think it will be very interesting tosee which teams take advantage of it best.

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And it'll add interest to another whatten plays in a game? That's
great because guess what, no one'spaying attention to those plays previously, and
so now you've just increased, inmy opinion, with both those rules,
the watch ability of football, andthat's that's a win. Well, I
know the league is all about viewship, and I also know the league is

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always about reacting to things instead ofbeing proactive. So it may seem a
little bias coming from me, andif it does, it probably is right
now, George, But it justseems as though all these rules are slanted
to better help the offense and notbring about somewhat of a balanced football game.
Am I wrong in my viewpoint?Well? It's interesting, right,

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So with the kickoff, I dothink it skews a little bit towards the
offense, right, You've definitely gotsome advantages to be taken. I think
more by the offense and by thedefense. So in that regard, I
would tend to agree with you,but I think it's more it's more about
the you know, the creating ofan actual play than anything else, and

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maybe that benefits the offense. Butwith the hip drop tackle, I just
I have a hard time saying thatbenefits the defense because at the end of
the day, if what benefits thedefense is the fact that they can tackle
people in a way that increases therate of injury, really, really aggressively,
then I just don't that's bad forthe game, and that's bad for

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everybody. That's bad for the defenseand the offense, right, because at
the end of the day, you'regoing to try and make money at the
defensive and offensive player, and ifthe game deteriorates, then you're going to
make less money. So that's whereI pushed back a little bit. I
think it'll be really interesting, though, Nick, to see how the kickoff
rule has taken advantage of by offensesand defenses. And it'll take you a

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year or two for us to reallykind of understand how that's benefited either side.
Yeah, Nick started Nick and Istarted off the show arguing a bit
about the on side aspect, andNick talked about another rule that Sam had
come up with, which was thefourth down offensive play the fourth and fifteen.

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I think conversion that kind of thing. And I tried to explain this
and I'm doing a bad job ofit. So maybe I can try again
with you and see if maybe youcan bridge the divide here. I struggle.
I get like a brain break herewith having just randomly us throw the
offense back out there to convert aplay and that's on side kick. Like
to me, it should be somethingthat has to do with the kick and

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is a special teams type play.And I understand a low recovery rate of
on side kicks five point two percentfor you know, especially after what Stationary
did allow the run up, ButI feel like there's something that we can
do from that angle and make ita special team's play rather than making it
some random offensive play. Is thatweird or I am I just out on
an island here, Yeah, I'mwith you. You can't call it an

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onside kick and have a quarterback trotout there, right. I think some
of those things are interesting, andI might try them in you know,
the Pro Bowl or something like that. But I think I'm with you one
hundred percent, right, There's somethingkind of fun about the fact that you
know your offense to come back latein game, you need everyone to fire

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on all cylinders right and need theoffense score quickly, and then that offense
needs to rely on some ingenuity torecover it. I do think making it
more of a you know, arecoverable play that can create some opportunity for
creativity from kickers and recovery teams makesa lot of sense. And I think

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increasing the chances of people doing thatreally more so during games than only at
the end of the game. Likeyou know, we all remember Sean Payton,
you know, doing that early onin such a high stakes moment,
and I don't know I think thatI would like to see more of that
because I think it opens up somereally interesting strategy for teams, especially if

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you're an underdog. Right, ifyou're an underdog, you're a fourteen point
underdog, why not on side kickthree four times a game if you have
a decent you know, a somewhatsemblance of a chance of recovering. You
know, before you jumped on Vanand I was talking about that whole idea
of on side kick, and youtell me where you fall on this,
because I was suggesting, Look,if league wants to get rid of the

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on side kick, I'm fine withit because it's not a successful play.
But I would rather watch teams andI think the Eagles kind to push this
out there, you know, takingafter scoring going forth and fifteen and trying
to stand the drive. Ben onthe other hand, he doesn't believe in
that whole concept. What do youthink that the League can do as far

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as keeping his game exciting but alsodoing away with the on side kick?
Yeah, I don't know. Imean again, I kind of think just
changing the mechanics of the kick isthe best way to do it. But
I think you've got to be reallycareful right, because it can backfire on
you right where all of a suddenyou've got people onside taking left and right,

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and I think you want to avoidthat a little bit, you know
that that could make for some lackiness. So I would preach, you know,
some some subtle changes there. Idon't think we need to overhaul it
super dramatically to the point where we'vegot, you know, backup quarterbacks coming
out there to throw a fifteen yardspass, which would be funny if you
had to make it your backup youknow, or something like that. What

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about this? What if you youcan complete a pass or trying on side
kick, but your kicker have tobe the guy that kicks it or throws
it. Well, I mean that'sinteresting. I feel like Dallas would probably
be in the best boat with that. With bones run on the show and
uh, what is it hacker thatthey've got who can know used to play
quarterback, who can who can throwa little bit? You know? Yeah?

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I just I feel like if it'sgoing to be a special team's play,
it needs to be a special teamsplay, not just randomly putting the
offense back on the field. Whatgave the offense possession to begin with.
I feel like there's a mechanism missingthere. And maybe maybe again, maybe
I'm doing a poor job explaining that, but it feels like that there's a
mechanism missing there for me. Yeah, no, it's it's you're doing a
good job explaming. I think certainpeople just serve are a little hard headed.

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But I do really like the ideaof what you're saying, which is
it's a special teams play, sothe special teams have to be out there.
But it would be really funny ifyou give the special team multiple options
where you know, you see themdoing all all kind of crazy stuff,
you know. I think that wouldbe kind of funny. Somewhere somewhere,
Tom Tupa is saying he just playedthe wrong era. Yes, yeah.

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The great thing is now you've gotkickers. Like everyone makes fun of kickers,
right, and it's like you've gotkickers now all of a sudden,
you know, really harnessing their accuracy, you know, during during the off
season and in practice. That'd begreat, That'd be better for the league.
I suggested just having kickers that justkick the ball as hard as they
can right off the center man ofthe of the opposing team, but Nick

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did not seem to think that thatwas not a water Boy many movie.
Hey, I look at Gateway sucks. I as far as as it goes.
One other thing that comes out ofthis kickoff rule. I think today
that interested me. Corterrel Patterson reunitingwith Arthur Smith and it feels so good.
Does Cornwell Patterson have a job ifall of a sudden we haven't pop
New Life into kickoffs? I don'tknow. You don't have to after Arthur

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Smith, because immediately everyone goes,oh, yeah, it's because of the
kickoff. Is it just because ArthurSmith can't wait, cannot wait to give
Courio Patterson. He touches the gameand anger the living daylights out of everyone
in that fan base, because that'swhat I'm hoping for. Hey, look,
Percy Harvin krawl, so that quarterEl Patterson could walk. Yes.

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Yes. And the funny thing isthat I feel like those two guys might
be close to the same age,and yet Percy Hartman has been out of
the league for like ten years andCordonell Patterson is still kicking. It's like
the Todd Gurley raheem Mostert thing.That's good. Oh, George, we
appreciate your time. As always,it always goes too fast, all right,

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I feel the same way. Ican't wait for that picture. Yeah,
absolutely brother. To take care George, story pro football focused. I
got to send him the oil paintingof the Drew Lock centaur. Thing is
as it has come full circle.