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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of me few brockos country Tonight. Benjamin Albright here
with you Post Rockies edition. Zack Segar's back there behind
the Glass. Five six, six nine zero is the text
line Rockies losing to the Philadelphia Phillies five to one.
Kyle Freeland takes the loss, first of the season two
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point one three era Zac Wheeler with the win. On
the game, Freeland we went six point two innings, allowed
nine hits, three runs, all three of marn three struck out. Wheeler,
who went seven innings, allowed three hits, one run winner,
no walks, ten strikeouts, did allow homer in that one.
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Freeland threw ninety pitches in this one, as opposed to
the what sixty seven? I guess it was in his
last last go rown. Wheeler got over the Hunter bark
with one five for the Rockies. Hunter Goodman continues to
play well, hit a home run. I had two hits
and three at bats, then continues to play well for
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the Rockies. The rest of the lineup was pretty conspicuously absent.
Chris Bryant got a hit. Mckimani I got a hit
and that tallies it for the hits. Kyle Farmer and
Brenton Doyle Leach walked once, but not a great offensive
output for the Colorado Rockies thirty at bats, four hits,
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two walks. Philly's on the other side, thirty five at bats,
twelve hits, four walks, excuse me, two walks, four struck out,
and they did get a stolen base as well. None
No such luck for the Colorado Rockies. The Rockies so
started off the season one and four. Philly started for one.
Rockies still have I believe one more road game before
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coming home for the home opener on Friday, which will
be live here on Kaway. We covered that all day.
We got a big day of sports coming up Friday. Myself,
Nick Ferguson gotta be down there at Colorado's Pro Day
to see you. Pro Day door is gonna be throwing,
Travis gonna be running, working out, all those guys gonna
be out there. The FL Network's gonna be out there,
ESPN is gonna be out there in Kai. Those will
be the three broadcasting entities out there, So three equally
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important broadcasting entities on the same stage.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Just try not too big time ESPN or NFL Network.
I know how you can be and just remember like
they've earned their right to be there too, and then
you know, don't don't try and big dog then I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Come on though, that's been a twenty five hour sports
network that'll never work. So you know we'll see Sam
Weish is gonna be out with NFL network. I tested
my buddies and Garifolo and raps see if they were
coming out or not. But it's gonna be a Wish
that's going to be out there. So that'll be that'll
be fun. I get a chance to see what what
these guys can do up there at Colorado. You know,
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some of these guys didn't compete or throw out to
Pro Day, I mean at the combines. Now you get
the pro toa to be able to do that. All
eyes going to be on that Travis Hunter, I think,
you know, might have Initially it looked like he might
be a guy that might fall out of the top five.
Now it looks like he might go third to the Giants.
Uh Shader looks like the one who's slipping at this
point might not even be the second quarterback taken in
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this draft. So just just kind of a kind of
an interesting, you know, dynamic as we get closer and
closer to the NFL Draft, which we will also cover
here on Kiowa as we do five six, six, nine
zeros of text line, you guys would get involved in
the conversation. I got a bunch of stuff to get
to today. Sean Keeler gonna join us here in the
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next segment. Talk a little bit about that disaster for
the Nuggets. What was Russell Westbrook doing? Man? What what?
What in the world are you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I was in attendance at that game, trying to enjoy
a day off from the office, and that was, Man,
that that's the most heartbreaking ending I've ever gotten to
experience in person. I was, I was celebrating. I thought
the Nuggets had won. It was not clear in the
building that they were they called a foul or that
it was being reviewed, And man, that was that was
a dagger to the heart.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I just I'm like, what do you You've been
in the league for Darner twenty years at this point, man,
like you know better.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And I'd argue the shot he took was even worse,
like not running down the clock, and I mean, if
you're not gonna run down the clock, you better make
the wide open layup. And he completely smoked it. I mean, yeah,
people online were saying that, you know, is that the
worst you know, thirty second sequence we've ever seen from
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an NBA Hall of Famer. For a reason, last night,
I was pitiful, And it also annoyed me that he
you know, was running off the court after that embarrassing ending,
and you know, teammates are trying to pat him on
the back and he's just like head down charging into
the locker room, which I can respect, Like that's a
really tough moment. But then some fan yells something at
him and he stops everything he's doing and like reverse
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his course and is like coming back out of the
tunnel to like bigger back and forth with the fan. Man,
if you're not gonna like listen to whatever your teammates
are saying, why are you listening to whatever random fan is?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Like, if you're gonna allow yourself to be confronted by
a fan, why are you sneaking out of the locker
room before media, you know, when you have the one
way microphone to be able to do that kind of stuff.
So I didn't like that. Westbrook. The starters all got,
you know, got a night off tonight for the Nuggets,
Westbrook did not get the night off. Wasn't a particularly
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a particularly great night for him. I mean he led
the team with eleven points near halftime, but five of
twelve on five of twelve shooting, with three turnovers. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know what's going on. With
a chance to talk to Sean Keeler about that. You know,
this Nuggets team looks like it's teetering on the precipice.
You've got an old world player in Nikola Jokic, and
they failed to capitalize on what appears to be the
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championship window for him.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, it's really frustrating. You know, the Nuggets will be very,
very lucky if they get a player of this caliber again,
just because I mean there's a lot of NBA franchises
that have never had a player of this caliber in
their entire history, and so yeah, who knows if one
ever comes around again and they've squandered it. I mean,
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there's no player of Jokic's caliber in NBA history who
has had less support from their front office. I'd argue,
I think the only one in the conversation is Lebron
the first time around with the Cavs, which was notoriously
or infamously so mismanaged most Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, you know, I mean it's one of those things
that was his hometown team and ultimately bailed because he
knew what he had to do to go win. Westbrook
is a guy that Joki shlobby for. That was a
that was a Jokic ad that was that was a
nod to him. But if you look around at the
rest of the roster, it's not exactly a uh. You know,
You've got two guys that are overpaid, and Jamal Murray
and Michael Porter Junior. You've got Aaron Gordon who's a
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dirty work guy, but you can't count on him for
offense in in you know, long stretches, still chip in
here or there, but he's mostly a dirty work rebound,
you know, defensive nightmare, defensive matchup kind of guy. And
and yeah, I don't know what you do at this point.
I mean, you've got to find a way to be
able to trade Murray and Porter and put the right
pieces around and Nicola Jokic and try to capitalize on
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what's left of this window, which I do think is possible.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I think you might have to take what looks like
some downgrades at face value. But you know, I don't
think Mpja or Jamal Murray are max players if they're
just about anywhere else in the league.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, I don't think so either. I think that's what
they need to keep the court together. We'll figure it out, though.
We got Sean Keayler from the Denver Polts coming up
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Don't bring on a guy from the Never Post Shawn Kayler.
Sean wrote the article. It was today about the Nuggets
and the bench. It's something I've been worried about. But
I think you hit the nail on the head, so
I want to get him on here to talk about it. Sean,
how you doing the.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Seating, I'm good, David.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
How are you doing pretty well? I've been concerned about
this bench since well sains frankly before the season started.
But we're at the point now where concern is under hyperbolic.
If there's a way to undersell concern, I'm doing it
right now after watching Prime joke to get squandered yet again.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, I mean, there's so many layers to last night.
I mean, never mind the lack of sleep that everybody
got for what sort of becomes one of those air
quote instant classics.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, I think the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I'm talking to a friend about this today who is
recovering Gatolic, and he would not do it so well
today because let's say that that was a playoff previews,
not in terms of rosters, but maybe intensity we're down to,
they're down to kind of thing, close finish, no no
quarter given. And then you see Russell Westbrook here he
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is now, and Michael Malone says up, says it's more
than one guy, it's more than one touch. Yeah. True,
a coach should say that should be a front of
his guys. But we've seen this script and I think
what it is because as the Wolves had a playoff field,
see you waste, let's be frank about that. You waste
one of the great knights in Dugget Statistical History at
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NBA Statistical History.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
How many people are.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Going to say they were there for sixty one ten ten?
And did they? Did? Those those who were walked away angry?
So I think all those layers make that one of
the more tough ones to swallow. And I think because
it could be a sign of what's to come later
this month, because I don't think what you think. I
think Michael Malone is going to finish games with Russell
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Westbrook come hell of high water, don't you?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah? That's I mean, that's the way it certainly appeared.
Westbrook's the one of the air quotes. You know, starters
are big six. I guess who play had playtime tonight
and certainly wasn't a pretty shooting performance despite no other
real offensive threats five or thirteen for the field the
first half one of six from downtown. Not exactly shooting
lights out there three turnovers as well. We saw DeAndre
Jordan get fifteen minutes in the first half, uh put
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away three points and seven boards and what was otherwise
a bunch of empty calories for the Nuggets. What are
they going to do when guys need a rest?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Pray?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know, we make lights because I mean, poor Jokic Yo.
You've seen the Blue Blues Brothers who about a million times.
I'm shocked at the end of that game, Yogic didn't
turn into the police cruiser and print Daily Plaza and
just everything fall off his body in the news conferdence,
he just left it there. I I think you're gonna
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grin and bear. You know what you're gonna do. You're
gonna grab a bullet and fight it. You're gonna grab
your arm and just kind of hold on for dear
life because those non Jokic minutes and non Morraine minutes
are gonna be brutal. You just don't have the depth.
You're it's a broken record, but it's it's not even better,
and they don't have a quick fix. And this is
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where were not reacting to this CBA and where the
aprons and the cap was going and not being whatever
Leedel of aggressive you felt you could be. The trade
line is gonna bite you because what you have is
what you got, and what you got from five through nine,
four through ten in that roster isn't as good as
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last night. Underscored again a fourth level of pain from
last night Minnesota's four through ten is better than the
Nuggets four through ten, and they rubbed that fourth through
ten in their face again.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, and that's that's sort of been. That's kind of
the story all year. And you know, I was talking
to Zach about it, you know a little bit earlier
back there, the producer. I mean, we were wasting the Koliokus.
This is what the ninth tenth year of Nikolaiokus leading
the team and win shares the last guy to do
that before him was what Ty lost him. That's how
long ago it was that I mean, and we squanted this.
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I mean, I get the voter fatigue and I wanted
to vote MVP, and that's it's stupid, but I get it.
But what are you doing as a team overpaying guys
like Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior and expecting them
to play at a big forty type level. You got that,
you got the dirty work guy and Gordon Okay, I'm
good with that, but we're overpaying Murray and we're overpaying
Porter for what we're getting. And then you look down
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the line with the money that you would you would
normally use to to back those guys up. With six, seven, eight,
and nine, and those guys who are those guys at
this point?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I mean jed right and yeah, and not just that.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, this is what happens.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
When you not only overpay your your second and third
guys MAX guys who don't play like Max guys. That's
where the salary cap and the system bites you back.
Is your MAX guys have to be Hall of famers.
Let's face it, NFL guy, sorry shipping ahead. NBA dynasties,
even in this era, going all the way back in
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the eighties, what do they have in common? Multiple hall
of famers? Where is that on the Denver Nuggets? There's one.
There's a lot of type. Since right got that figured out, Murray,
you're paying them one to the MPJ No ag, mister nugget.
You know that's going up in the race. His jersey's
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going up in the rafts. Here is he going to Springfield?
I don't know, but you see my point. And not
only have you overpaid for your second and third guy
that way, or second or fourth however you want to
push MPJA. You overpaid for Zetonology, you overpaid.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
For Reggie Jackson and then tried away to try to
make those numbers work. It's you'd laugh.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
If it didn't make you cry. Because to your point,
the Kolijoki is just turned thirty and there is.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
A clock kicking, and you know he's somebody who the.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
People wanted to do a Lebron. There's no doubt in
my mind he could play forever, right. I don't think
if the kolok wanted to, you know, find a cure
for in Padma, he could do that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You know, he could do whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
He wanted to put his mind to, right, But I
don't when your love lies across the ocean in this world,
there is going to be that day where we won't
even get a news conference. We'll just get an email
that says the Joker's not coming back. Good luck to
good luck for the rest of your lives, Scott.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It'll be sort of the anti Jordan. You know, facts,
You're gonna get a fact that says I'm never.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Back, I'm not coming good Luss everybody. And that day
is coming and we are now in the five to
six year watch where that's going to be a real thing, right,
I mean, we just have to be realistic about that.
So you know, Blessed twenty twenty three. Bless what happened
that you were able to hit that peak and as
hard as that is, and live that moment and live
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that parade. But I'd worry that we're going to look
back at last year maybe not as much as this
one with borderline rage. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'm already there, I'm here right right.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
People are still raging about last year. I think last
year is just going to get uglier and uglier if
there isn't some kind of radical reshift in this roster.
To your point, losing a Hall of famers, you know,
argue with the best not arguably the best basketball in
the world, and wasting your twenty nine and now looking
very strongly the potential of wasting year thirty.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, it's it's rough. Talk about Shaquila from the Never Post.
That's shan Quila on Twitter. As we look at this
to being like, is there any scenario outside of winning
at all, that you don't blow this thing up next year,
fire the coach and start over.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Oh yeah, there's a lot, Because I I would. I
have a hard time believing they would. I don't have
a hard time believing Calvin Booth would want to fire
Michael Malone I have a hard time feeling it that
Kronkeys would want to fire Michael Malone. If that makes sense,
I could see him walking away. He's gonna have an
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empty nest soon, he's got a ring. He could pick
a better you can pick a different situation if he
still want it. I don't know that he does. I
don't know that it's warranted.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I do think that you have to have a loss
of rethink, but.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I don't think you're gonna see that either. I would
think that if this is a first round exit, and boy,
I just again we go back to it's not one guy.
But I was talking to one of the Nuggets broadcast team.
I said, here's what I fear. I mean, I would
think they could get past the Warriors, and Warriors are
old knows, he said, depending on the matchup who is
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in the postseason, are just gonna let Rush shoot still,
let Watchbrook fire away, and let whatever happens happens, and
say we're gonna let him beat us, and if he
beats us, that's on us. We'll live with that because
you've got to make those decisions. And I get that,
and I worry that that. Having been having the Nuggets
planned and played him on the other side of that,
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having watched him going do not be smoke for brick
modes for the top five games. That's gonna be ultimately
what doesn't And.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I hope I'm wrong, but I absolutely.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Think that's going to be the determining factor going forward,
and never mind whatever Jamal Murray brings to the table.
So I yeah, I think you're gonna have to have
a loss to rethink. I'd be surprised if there was
a coaching rethink. And now someone pointed out there's a
new wrinkle to that today because Calvin Booth was resumed
to be the one of those two that might be
on the hotter seat, and yet his son just transferred
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from Illinois. I believe to see USU. I think that
was official today. So would that be a guy that's leaving.
I don't know if you could want to connect those dots,
But yeah, I think roster wise, somebody there has got
to have a long, hard look. But I don't know
how much blowing up with those match contracts you can do.
I think it's a lot of debt share shuffling, to
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be frank, and that's because you wanted to invest.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
In those guys, Tyber Jean Kailer the never Post. That's
Sean Kailer on Twitter, switching gears here a little bit
Colorado Pro Day coming up on Friday. Of course, Chador
Travis not much working out of the combine. This is
gonna be the time for everybody to get the eyes
and ears on it. As you know, I've kind of
heard that the Chador slide is real, that you know,
Travis could could maybe you know, go in the top five,
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go third, but Shador might even not even be end
up being the second quarterback taken? Would that be a
blight on this this sort of culture build, a sort
of you know, see us the new mecca of party Central,
Pete Carroll two point zero thing that the Deon's got
going on at Colorado, I.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Think the old Honestly, that to me, that would say
more about a culture clash between ownerships in front offices
that don't love what CEU is and and I don't
agree with that. I can, I can see it, unfortunately,
but I don't agree with that. And also, let's be frank,
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I think they're worried a little bit about Dad too,
that this is not a normal celebrity sun In the
good and all the things that come with it. I
think that there is a little bit of that concern. Now,
what if something Let's put this way, let's be honest
about this would be true for Jimmy Hord and certainly
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Travis too, But if something picked your tea in Tennessee Giants, whoever,
if something would go really well crazy with the way
that the NFL who does things just do in the pros,
you know, I think there's this reaction.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
A little bit, because lord knows, I've been on that.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Side of it that if you get in a rap
of Yon Sanders, it could just go south for so
many different directions.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And then there are.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Teams that are worried about that, and I think they're
worried about the eternal question of what's the guy going
to be like. In the case of Chador, who doesn't
have his dad coaching him for the first time, I
don't have those issues with him personally. I actually like
him personally. I'm sure the reverse isn't true. But and
I've told people in Vegas who've asked me about it,
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and I'm sure people have asked you about it. I
think this is this is a pretty I mean don't
at the videos and the songs. Very smart dude, Any
dude who's one of the best college quarterbacks. And I've
been covering the college game for about three decades now,
Sor Sanders is one of the best college quarterbacks I've
ever seen. And this is Sean Key was saying that
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write that down that guy. You can google me and
the family. You have to be able to separate dad
and stuff in a little bit, I think, and I can,
and so I fill fund the slide. Surprising, he's still
slide to build. He's not a true runner in that sense.
He's a good athlete, He's not I'm not sure he's
a boat Nicks runner. So even he's as a baseline,
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But I understand the slide. I guess I'm just disappointed
and a little confused by it, if that makes sense.
But I guess we will sue.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I think you had to nail on the head there,
because the people I talked to when I was out
there at the combine, that was the concern, wasn't you know, Hey,
you know this guy's a decent player. You know he
translates to it maybe a geno Smith, you know type
in the NFL. Teddy bridgewaterman, you know that kind of thing.
But beyond that, it was his dad's got the biggest
megaphone on the planet. And if we have a couple
of bad games, all of a sudden, I'm looking for
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a new job because he's on McAfee telling everybody how
much I suck as an OC.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, I really think that this, I think and
again I've lived it. I think they're looking at it
going this could go really bad for me, and I
just don't need the distraction because this gig, whatever gig
that is, certainly if it's a gig for a team
that that George Sanders would be going to, it's absolutely
what a team that Travis Hunter would be going to.
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This job is going to be hard enough without that.
And that's that's ironically the downside of all the good will,
good what have you that the coach Prime experience has
brought to see you. That's the flip side of this.
I mean, an NFL locker room is as well, you know,
as a different beast. And I think I had somebody
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else say this to me last year talking about this.
They're like, what's what's going to happen with an with
a bunch offensive line veterans and Pluto's where who don't
care or don't like him and turn on him. What
happens that? And Dad's not there. I'm not wishing that.
I don't think that. But that's a real thing. This
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is a grown up deal. This is there is no
safety yet, this is where it goes. But on the
other hand, I've rarely met an idea. And I'm complimenting again,
But a guy is pro mature and unfazed by the
pro stuff and celebrity as Hudor Sanders is because he's lived.
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It's just walking in there. It's not gonna nothing. It's
ever gonna awe him. Ever, this's got Trump Brady up
speak out. What does take care? And maybe that's also
good in the backside, and it's gonna be like, can
I I got politiz if you're gonna get to this.
The other question I get from people too is can
I coach him? And that those two things, yeah, I
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could see that contributing. That's a huge slide because I
think that the arm I hee, all that package is
just too good and all the whole not to take
a chance on, at least given the kind of things
you will take it like this is a better college
quarterback coming out than Saint Drew Locke. Okay, I mean
this is not that guy. If you want another base flying,
if he's Gal Smith, that's a good cop heady. Yeah,
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better than Drew lock. So if you know, if high
second is there, you would think you're gonna be above that.
But yeah, it's an interesting dichotomy because what can be
good can also have it downside that way, and you know,
maybe they'll live that little by'd be shocked if it's
you know, past the Broncos pick or something that would
be here that would be insane.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Might actually I might wind up being that pick, not
the Broncos making it right there at twenty. I heard
some rumors maybe the Giants come back in We'll see
you know that. That'd be funny little bit of sentatry there.
Who knows. Sean, I appreciate the time we're on toime tonight,
but I appreciate the time. Look forward to get the
chat with you. Get here soon.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah, there're any time, bitchmait take care of.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
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What rusty here?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Steelers president Art Rooney the second set at this week's
owners meetings that all signs are pointing to Aaron Rodgers
joining the team. With this now seeming like a done deal,
what do you think the hold up is at this
point in finishing things off? And who do you think
is trying to I guess who do you think is
holding things up by trying to negotiate for more?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
If I don't think anybody's try to negotiate for more,
I think the framework is already there. I think Aaron
Rodgers is trying to decide he knows this is going
to be his last team. Aaron Rodgers knows that this
is going to be his last team, and he's trying
to decide if this is the one for legacy and
whatever you think of Aaron Rodgers, in my opinion of it
as a as a person, is not that high. You
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gotta respect he's a free agent, has a right to
make his own decision and the right to not make
that decision. You gotta respect the Pittsburgh Steelers wanting to,
you know, get that decision made too. But you know,
at the same time, for you, agents gotta got a
right to make their own decision, especially on the last
team he's ever going to play for. You know, I
think Rodgers just wants to make one hundred percent sure,
and I think he's also tried to wait it out
a little bit, just to see if McCarthy's you know,
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meniscous issue suddenly flares back up all of a sudden,
maybe the Vikings pivot, you know, that kind of thing.
But that that's really where that's at. It's not about money.
That the framework for this has been a place since
a combine like this is you know, that's old news.
The question really is is this the team? Is this
am I am? I sitting out a year? Or is
this a team and I'm going all in here? That
kind of thing? And I think he just wants to
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be sure if.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He decides the answer regarding the Steelers at least as
know this isn't the team. What do you think is
the most likely pivot there? Do you think it's the
Vikings because of something.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
No, they have no interesting sirens, So unless McCarthy gets
hurt again or something happens there, it will not be
Aaron Rodgers in Minnesota. So the pivot from the Steelers
would be retirement, retirement, sitting out for a year, that
kind of thing, and going from there. I think he
goes a place for the Steelers this year, though.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Two At this week's NFL owner meetings, Jerry Jones said
that he recently had a five plus hour meeting with
Micah Parsons and that they're largely in agreement on the
deals regarding Micah Parsons contract extension negotiations. How long do
you think we will have to wait for this deal
to get done? Do you think it'll be like these
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long drawn out, dak and seedy negotiations we've seen in
the past. And how likely do you think it is
that Parsons isn't a Dallas cowboy in twenty twenty seven.
I picked twenty seven to wait out some franchise tags
and whatever else might I.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Believe he will be. I believe that he will wind
up being a Dallas cowboy. I don't believe that the
framework is that far off. The thing about Jerry and
the reason that it takes so long, is because he
does that. He negotiates directly with the player, you know,
and tries to and tries to do that and circumvent
the agents. Parsons agent is Dave Mulgeta, who's not been
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contacted yet at all. If Parsons were smart, he would
just say, look, I've laid out what I want with
my agent, just talking with him, and once you guys
get that agreed to, we'll get it signed. I know
where I'm at, you know where you're at. But but
but Jerry has kind of an old world way of
doing things, you know, in the sense that I've got
to write to Jack Parsons, gotta you know, Parsons is
the one's got a greatest stuff. So what do I
need an agent for? And so that's that's sort of
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the thing with all that. In the end you'll get
mully get involved to get the little details wrinkled out,
you know, in terms of the cash flow and all
these kinds of things. Parsons has a number he wants,
you know, no trade clause, you know, things like that.
But the cash flow and the guarantees, the instatives and
the little details, as far as that kind of stuff,
let an agent handle that. It'll get done and he'll
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he'll winde up at a cowboy.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Do you think seeing how much you know these kind
of drawn out CD and Dak Prescott negotiations have ultimately
cost them, it might make Jerry Jones change his ways
and maybe negotiate these things a little more promptly. Or
is this a leopard not changing his thoughts?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Jerry's how old now he's not changeable. Gerry's doing things
the way Jerry does things because Jerry believes that's the
way you do things. It's the way he's always done
It's the way he's always going to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, sorry about that, but alright, clearly on the pat
McAfee show. Trey Hendrickson said he was hoping it was
an April Fool's shoke when he read Bengals exec Katie
Blackburn's quote on his contract situation.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
She told ESPN, I think you should.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Be happy at certain rates that maybe he doesn't think
he'd be happy yet. I think some of it is
on him to be happy at some point, and if
he's not, you know, that's what holds it up sometimes,
so you know, it takes him to say yes to something.
And also we have all the respect in the world
for him. Do you think, which seems a little shady
just saying kind of has to suck it up?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Do you think this relationship can be repaired?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And where do you think Trey Hendrickson will play in
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, Jovia Bengal is coming here. Whether he holds out
or not, they'll own his rights. And the Bengals played
hardball before we saw it, remember with Carson Palmer, Like
we've seen Bengals play hardball. As far as the rest
of it goes, I mean, yeah, I think I think
I think she has a point, Like there's a number
that he's got to be happy at somewhere, They've got
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to find a number they're happy at paying him, and
that they have to meet it. That that's that's how
that stuff works. I don't think just sitting there and
putting it on the player like that. I mean, that's
probably not somebody. You know, Katie Blackburn is not somebody
who talks in front of the media and talks to
the media a lot, and probably PRS is probably teaching
her how not to say things in the future. But
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I mean, honestly, Trey Hendrickson wants an obscene amount of money,
you know. I mean, he wants forty million plus per year.
He wants quarterback money as an edge rusher. Miles Garrett's
getting at Michael Parson's gonna get that. Is Trey Hendrickson
really the third best pass rusher in the NFL? And oh,
by the way, these guys on the Bengals who all
want their money, how are you going to feel the
rest of a team?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So you know, there comes a point where your number,
you know, okay, your numbers, your number, But he's anybody
else even going to give you that number?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, he's not a forty million dollar a year at
rusher and that's where he's at.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I mean, that's that's where that's the number he keeps
telling them, you know, And so I think that you
get a notoriously cheap organization that just opened the pocketbook
for a quarterback and two receivers, and you got a
defensive end who's you know, after a career year and
looking for you know, looking to get paid. And I
get it. I'm all for players trying to se get
the bag, but I mean, Trey Hendrickson, you got to
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look around read the room too.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's fine for you to have that number, but the
Bengals are offering X, Y and z. If you're not
comfortable that hold out. But what's your market to the
rest of the league is hit that number of forty million?
Because I don't think there's too many teams that are
gonna be paying him forty million a year.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And he might point to the sack production, but you
don't get that sack production if you're not playing for
a team that's in you know, forty one to forty
shootouts every game and you're facing forty to fifty dropbacks.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's the other part of it. His argument is, hey, look,
I don't have a lot of talent around me, and
I'm making it work. Everybody else's argument is it's because
you're in shootouts where you're throwing the ball sixty times
a game, and you get an inordinate amount of times
to be able to rush opposing passers. Fully agree, poor
look pretty calm drive around the Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
The NFL announced it will be incorporating AAFC stats into
their historical leaderboards and records. Some major results of this
move are that Paul Brown leaves from twenty second to
seventh on the all time wins list the AAFC's nineteen
forty eight fifteen and oh Cleveland Browns now joined the
nineteen seventy two Dolphins, is the only perfect teams in
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NFL history, and the nineteen forty eight forty nine Ers
claim the rector for most rushing yards in a single
year from the twenty nineteen Ravens with three six hundred
and sixty three rushing yards. What do you make of
this move by the NFL and the impact it's having
on their record books.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You know, I'm sure cool, I'm happy. I guess it
helps get some guys some you know that were a
part of footballs founding some run. I don't. It really
didn't affect me at all, Like I didn't really this
is a question we have Ryan Michael on again. We
need to ask him. But this was one of those
things that just did not affect me in any plausible way.
(32:36):
I'm like, all right, good for them. I don't cool.
We'll accept these new numbers and new records as far
as you know what it has done for some of
these players and coaches and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Cool. The The interesting thing is the fifteen and o season.
But is anybody even going to recognize that? I mean,
the Patriots already busted that, So I don't you know,
I didn't do anything for me.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, I hope it cheapens the Champagne celebration the seventy
two Dolphins have every year.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
That feels very obnoxious to me. Times the NFL I
celebrate however they want till somebody breaks the BONEX coming
for the five.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Roger Goodell said at the owners meetings that he expects
the NFL to make an announcement about whether or not
players will be allowed to compete in the twenty twenty
eight Olympics Games sometime in the next sixty days. What
do you expect Roger Goodell in the NFL wild rode
aside and how bad of a misstep misstep do you
think it would be to stop players from competing?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, they literally can't stop them, so that's the thing.
I mean, they can't. There's nothing in the collective Targeting
Agreement that would allow them a mechanism to be able
to do that. It's not a competing league, it's an
international cooperative festival. There's nothing they could do. So I
imagine that Roger Goodell will come out and say, yeah,
we look forward to NFL players competing in the Olympics.
The only thing that could put any sort of damper
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on that would be players who have injury type things
in their contracts for offseason, for offseason things that that
might be something that that would hold some people back.
But overall, no, this is it's weird that they even
are pretending that they have any leverage here. They don't.
So yeah, so it's just posturing in your opinion, Yeah,
(34:19):
I don't. Yeah, I don't even know why you would
come out and say anything about this because it's so
obviously stupidly wrong.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Who who are a few players you absolutely want to
see on that twenty twenty eight team USA Olympics.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well, oh, I mean you want some burners at receiver.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You're gonna want the you know, you know what the
Tyreek Hills Wi the way, that kind of stuff. For
the DK you know, you want Mike Evans, you know
those kind of guys you want, not necessarily Evans, but
those type guys. You want a big jump ball guy
that nobody can defend and a burner nobody can catch.
It's it's flag football, so you don't have to worry
about the tackling aspect of it. And so I think
that works as well just as well on defense too.
You got some of these corners that are that are
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gamblers that can they go after interceptions that maybe don't
tackle all that Well, some of those guys might be
in there. I think you'd want like a Kyle Hamilton
back there is a safety, you know, that kind of stuff.
And then the interesting thing there is going to be
the quarterback position. Who you know, they've got a guy
who's done really well in playing in flag football for
a long time. But you know, I think people will
(35:17):
be tuned in to see Lamar Jackson you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I mean I think we have a good example of
this right now, where you have five on five basketball
in the Olympics, and you have three on three basketball,
and the three on three basketball is a lot of
guys that are professional three on three basketball players, and
no one watches that one or really cares about it.
Everyone cares about the five on five game with the
global superstars.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That we all want to see.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
On the quarterback front, I think a sleeper name because
everyone's going to go to the obvious elite guys. I
think a sleeper that would be really good in this environment.
You brought up the lack of tackling Kyler Murray. He's
incredibly quick, he's got a great arm, can be accurate,
all that stuff, the scene over a line and all,
that's not as much of a problem. And I think
him being so low to the and his flags being
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so much lower to the ground might actually benefit him.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But that's a good name. I would say that Kyler
and Lamar are probably the tight quarterback that you would
want back there with that extra dimension, being able to
run the ball and all that kind of stuff too.
It just depends. I mean, we got to make sure
he's not a new call of duty drop during the
twenty twenty eight Olympics. That's that's a great call out.
You can't can't have that.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Six.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Former All Pro.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Lineman and Super Bowl champion Andrew Whitworth is pushing for
the NFL to adopt a Shield award to acknowledge the
best offensive lineman every season. What do you think of
Whitworth's idea and who do you think would have been
deserving of that award.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
In twenty twenty four. Oh, that's a good question, man,
That's a really good question. Blindhogs and acorns. Yeah, I
don't know, all right, who I mean, like Quinn Minors
and the Broncos. I guess it would be somebody you'd
you'd you'd consider for that. I don't know. I don't
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know who I would necessarily.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Trent Williams would have probably maybe the last probably time
that he would have raked him in over the last
few years.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
The best offensive lines in football last year were Philly
and Denver Detroit. Yeah, they'd be up there, so I
think you'd have to I think you'd have to look
at that lane.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Johnson would be a great name, yeah, or Dickerson or
Milata over there.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
They've got some guy got some good ones there in Philadelphia.
That's that's an interesting question. I had not I had
not thought about that, So we would have to be
on the list somewhere.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It should be just one catch all offensive Lineman award
or do you think there should be AERI.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I kind of like it as a unit award, you know,
I took for me because offensive lines tend to just
be that way rather than one guy. I mean, think
about it. Is there any offensive line that has one
guy that's that's highly successful? You know, it's one guy
as an All Pro and a bunch of scrubs and
they're the unit is successful.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Really, it's a unit defined by its weakest link, not
as strongest right. And so that's why I mean, that's
why you saw Houston do what they did the sofseason.
You had to do one guy over there and and
then you had four scrubs. So I you know, I
I like the premise, but I think I would.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Award it as a unit the Shield Award, and it
could be more of a team thing and you got
five guys all pulling for each other, you know that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I like that idea, though, that'd be great. It has
to be a giant trophy though big giant. It will
be some belts, like some big big shield belt up, Yeah,
big shield buckle thing. They all get that kind of thing.
Like it's gotta be something different. Offensive linemen are a
different breed man. You gotta get something for the you know,
for the big fellows like that. That that works for them,
works for their their image too, Like that motif. I'd
like even a shield, like if it was like an
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NFL you know shaped shield.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Somebody's got like the angry run scepter and the other
guy's got the shield.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, it was like, oh yeah, get them together on
just inside them go against some defensive guys.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Could go to a Renaissance festival and have a battle.
Just oh five six six nine zeros and text line.
I had a bunch of uh, a bunch of good
texts coming in here. Somebody said, I still PTSD from
the Broncos. Blowing a win in the last second against
our nemesis, the Chiefs that lost last night was identical
in basketball format also against our rivals, same sickening feeling
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too soon. Zach was actually at the game.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You were there.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
It was miserable. I that one hurts so bad. It
was the highest of highs to the lowest of low's,
really quick.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
It.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, it reminds me of that Chiefs game a lot.
If I was in Arrowhead, that one probably would have
hurt more. But man, I think it hurts especially bad
because it wasn't just you know, this is a team
like the Chiefs, that has been a bit of you know,
an Achilles heel for the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But it's also.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
An incredible historic performance from Yokich. You know, when he retires,
this could be the best single game stat line from
his entire career and it ended up being a loss
because of bad mental mistakes.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It's awful. Yeah, it was just you know, yeah, frustrating, frustrating.
I've had a couple other texts here. I do want
to try to get to get to five, six, six
times Yeros text line you listen to Broncos country to
night here on ka Wait after this
One of me few brockos country Tonight. Benjamin Albright here
with you Post Rockies edition. Zack Segar's back there behind
the Glass. Five six, six nine zero is the text
line Rockies losing to the Philadelphia Phillies five to one.
Kyle Freeland takes the loss, first of the season two
(00:23):
point one three era Zac Wheeler with the win. On
the game, Freeland we went six point two innings, allowed
nine hits, three runs, all three of marn three struck out. Wheeler,
who went seven innings, allowed three hits, one run winner,
no walks, ten strikeouts, did allow homer in that one.
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Freeland threw ninety pitches in this one, as opposed to
the what sixty seven? I guess it was in his
last last go rown. Wheeler got over the Hunter bark
with one five for the Rockies. Hunter Goodman continues to
play well, hit a home run. I had two hits
and three at bats, then continues to play well for
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the Rockies. The rest of the lineup was pretty conspicuously absent.
Chris Bryant got a hit. Mckimani I got a hit
and that tallies it for the hits. Kyle Farmer and
Brenton Doyle Leach walked once, but not a great offensive
output for the Colorado Rockies thirty at bats, four hits,
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two walks. Philly's on the other side, thirty five at bats,
twelve hits, four walks, excuse me, two walks, four struck out,
and they did get a stolen base as well. None
No such luck for the Colorado Rockies. The Rockies so
started off the season one and four. Philly started for one.
Rockies still have I believe one more road game before
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coming home for the home opener on Friday, which will
be live here on Kaway. We covered that all day.
We got a big day of sports coming up Friday. Myself,
Nick Ferguson gotta be down there at Colorado's Pro Day
to see you. Pro Day door is gonna be throwing,
Travis gonna be running, working out, all those guys gonna
be out there. The FL Network's gonna be out there,
ESPN is gonna be out there in Kai. Those will
be the three broadcasting entities out there, So three equally
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important broadcasting entities on the same stage.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Just try not too big time ESPN or NFL Network.
I know how you can be and just remember like
they've earned their right to be there too, and then
you know, don't don't try and big dog then I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Come on though, that's been a twenty five hour sports
network that'll never work. So you know we'll see Sam
Weish is gonna be out with NFL network. I tested
my buddies and Garifolo and raps see if they were
coming out or not. But it's gonna be a Wish
that's going to be out there. So that'll be that'll
be fun. I get a chance to see what what
these guys can do up there at Colorado. You know,
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some of these guys didn't compete or throw out to
Pro Day, I mean at the combines. Now you get
the pro toa to be able to do that. All
eyes going to be on that Travis Hunter, I think,
you know, might have Initially it looked like he might
be a guy that might fall out of the top five.
Now it looks like he might go third to the Giants.
Uh Shader looks like the one who's slipping at this
point might not even be the second quarterback taken in
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this draft. So just just kind of a kind of
an interesting, you know, dynamic as we get closer and
closer to the NFL Draft, which we will also cover
here on Kiowa as we do five six, six, nine
zeros of text line, you guys would get involved in
the conversation. I got a bunch of stuff to get
to today. Sean Keeler gonna join us here in the
(03:27):
next segment. Talk a little bit about that disaster for
the Nuggets. What was Russell Westbrook doing? Man? What what?
What in the world are you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I was in attendance at that game, trying to enjoy
a day off from the office, and that was, Man,
that that's the most heartbreaking ending I've ever gotten to
experience in person. I was, I was celebrating. I thought
the Nuggets had won. It was not clear in the
building that they were they called a foul or that
it was being reviewed, And man, that was that was
a dagger to the heart.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I just I'm like, what do you You've been
in the league for Darner twenty years at this point, man,
like you know better.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And I'd argue the shot he took was even worse,
like not running down the clock, and I mean, if
you're not gonna run down the clock, you better make
the wide open layup. And he completely smoked it. I mean, yeah,
people online were saying that, you know, is that the
worst you know, thirty second sequence we've ever seen from
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an NBA Hall of Famer. For a reason, last night,
I was pitiful, And it also annoyed me that he
you know, was running off the court after that embarrassing ending,
and you know, teammates are trying to pat him on
the back and he's just like head down charging into
the locker room, which I can respect, Like that's a
really tough moment. But then some fan yells something at
him and he stops everything he's doing and like reverse
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his course and is like coming back out of the
tunnel to like bigger back and forth with the fan. Man,
if you're not gonna like listen to whatever your teammates
are saying, why are you listening to whatever random fan is?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Like, if you're gonna allow yourself to be confronted by
a fan, why are you sneaking out of the locker
room before media, you know, when you have the one
way microphone to be able to do that kind of stuff.
So I didn't like that. Westbrook. The starters all got,
you know, got a night off tonight for the Nuggets,
Westbrook did not get the night off. Wasn't a particularly
(05:16):
a particularly great night for him. I mean he led
the team with eleven points near halftime, but five of
twelve on five of twelve shooting, with three turnovers. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know what's going on. With
a chance to talk to Sean Keeler about that. You know,
this Nuggets team looks like it's teetering on the precipice.
You've got an old world player in Nikola Jokic, and
they failed to capitalize on what appears to be the
(05:38):
championship window for him.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, it's really frustrating. You know, the Nuggets will be very,
very lucky if they get a player of this caliber again,
just because I mean there's a lot of NBA franchises
that have never had a player of this caliber in
their entire history, and so yeah, who knows if one
ever comes around again and they've squandered it. I mean,
(06:01):
there's no player of Jokic's caliber in NBA history who
has had less support from their front office. I'd argue,
I think the only one in the conversation is Lebron
the first time around with the Cavs, which was notoriously
or infamously so mismanaged most Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, you know, I mean it's one of those things
that was his hometown team and ultimately bailed because he
knew what he had to do to go win. Westbrook
is a guy that Joki shlobby for. That was a
that was a Jokic ad that was that was a
nod to him. But if you look around at the
rest of the roster, it's not exactly a uh. You know,
You've got two guys that are overpaid, and Jamal Murray
and Michael Porter Junior. You've got Aaron Gordon who's a
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dirty work guy, but you can't count on him for
offense in in you know, long stretches, still chip in
here or there, but he's mostly a dirty work rebound,
you know, defensive nightmare, defensive matchup kind of guy. And
and yeah, I don't know what you do at this point.
I mean, you've got to find a way to be
able to trade Murray and Porter and put the right
pieces around and Nicola Jokic and try to capitalize on
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what's left of this window, which I do think is possible.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I think you might have to take what looks like
some downgrades at face value. But you know, I don't
think Mpja or Jamal Murray are max players if they're
just about anywhere else in the league.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, I don't think so either. I think that's what
they need to keep the court together. We'll figure it out, though.
We got Sean Keayler from the Denver Polts coming up
next here on Brocos Country tonight. All right, here's act
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Don't bring on a guy from the Never Post Shawn Kayler.
Sean wrote the article. It was today about the Nuggets
and the bench. It's something I've been worried about. But
I think you hit the nail on the head, so
I want to get him on here to talk about it. Sean,
how you doing the.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Seating, I'm good, David.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
How are you doing pretty well? I've been concerned about
this bench since well sains frankly before the season started.
But we're at the point now where concern is under hyperbolic.
If there's a way to undersell concern, I'm doing it
right now after watching Prime joke to get squandered yet again.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, I mean, there's so many layers to last night.
I mean, never mind the lack of sleep that everybody
got for what sort of becomes one of those air
quote instant classics.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, I think the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I'm talking to a friend about this today who is
recovering Gatolic, and he would not do it so well
today because let's say that that was a playoff previews,
not in terms of rosters, but maybe intensity we're down to,
they're down to kind of thing, close finish, no no
quarter given. And then you see Russell Westbrook here he
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is now, and Michael Malone says up, says it's more
than one guy, it's more than one touch. Yeah. True,
a coach should say that should be a front of
his guys. But we've seen this script and I think
what it is because as the Wolves had a playoff field,
see you waste, let's be frank about that. You waste
one of the great knights in Dugget Statistical History at
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NBA Statistical History.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
How many people are.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Going to say they were there for sixty one ten ten?
And did they? Did? Those those who were walked away angry?
So I think all those layers make that one of
the more tough ones to swallow. And I think because
it could be a sign of what's to come later
this month, because I don't think what you think. I
think Michael Malone is going to finish games with Russell
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Westbrook come hell of high water, don't you?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah? That's I mean, that's the way it certainly appeared.
Westbrook's the one of the air quotes. You know, starters
are big six. I guess who play had playtime tonight
and certainly wasn't a pretty shooting performance despite no other
real offensive threats five or thirteen for the field the
first half one of six from downtown. Not exactly shooting
lights out there three turnovers as well. We saw DeAndre
Jordan get fifteen minutes in the first half, uh put
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away three points and seven boards and what was otherwise
a bunch of empty calories for the Nuggets. What are
they going to do when guys need a rest?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Pray?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know, we make lights because I mean, poor Jokic Yo.
You've seen the Blue Blues Brothers who about a million times.
I'm shocked at the end of that game, Yogic didn't
turn into the police cruiser and print Daily Plaza and
just everything fall off his body in the news conferdence,
he just left it there. I I think you're gonna
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grin and bear. You know what you're gonna do. You're
gonna grab a bullet and fight it. You're gonna grab
your arm and just kind of hold on for dear
life because those non Jokic minutes and non Morraine minutes
are gonna be brutal. You just don't have the depth.
You're it's a broken record, but it's it's not even better,
and they don't have a quick fix. And this is
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where were not reacting to this CBA and where the
aprons and the cap was going and not being whatever
Leedel of aggressive you felt you could be. The trade
line is gonna bite you because what you have is
what you got, and what you got from five through nine,
four through ten in that roster isn't as good as
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last night. Underscored again a fourth level of pain from
last night Minnesota's four through ten is better than the
Nuggets four through ten, and they rubbed that fourth through
ten in their face again.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, and that's that's sort of been. That's kind of
the story all year. And you know, I was talking
to Zach about it, you know a little bit earlier
back there, the producer. I mean, we were wasting the Koliokus.
This is what the ninth tenth year of Nikolaiokus leading
the team and win shares the last guy to do
that before him was what Ty lost him. That's how
long ago it was that I mean, and we squanted this.
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I mean, I get the voter fatigue and I wanted
to vote MVP, and that's it's stupid, but I get it.
But what are you doing as a team overpaying guys
like Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior and expecting them
to play at a big forty type level. You got that,
you got the dirty work guy and Gordon Okay, I'm
good with that, but we're overpaying Murray and we're overpaying
Porter for what we're getting. And then you look down
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the line with the money that you would you would
normally use to to back those guys up. With six, seven, eight,
and nine, and those guys who are those guys at
this point?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I mean jed right and yeah, and not just that.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, this is what happens.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
When you not only overpay your your second and third
guys MAX guys who don't play like Max guys. That's
where the salary cap and the system bites you back.
Is your MAX guys have to be Hall of famers.
Let's face it, NFL guy, sorry shipping ahead. NBA dynasties,
even in this era, going all the way back in
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the eighties, what do they have in common? Multiple hall
of famers? Where is that on the Denver Nuggets? There's one.
There's a lot of type. Since right got that figured out, Murray,
you're paying them one to the MPJ No ag, mister nugget.
You know that's going up in the race. His jersey's
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going up in the rafts. Here is he going to Springfield?
I don't know, but you see my point. And not
only have you overpaid for your second and third guy
that way, or second or fourth however you want to
push MPJA. You overpaid for Zetonology, you overpaid.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
For Reggie Jackson and then tried away to try to
make those numbers work. It's you'd laugh.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
If it didn't make you cry. Because to your point,
the Kolijoki is just turned thirty and there is.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
A clock kicking, and you know he's somebody who the.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
People wanted to do a Lebron. There's no doubt in
my mind he could play forever, right. I don't think
if the kolok wanted to, you know, find a cure
for in Padma, he could do that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You know, he could do whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
He wanted to put his mind to, right, But I
don't when your love lies across the ocean in this world,
there is going to be that day where we won't
even get a news conference. We'll just get an email
that says the Joker's not coming back. Good luck to
good luck for the rest of your lives, Scott.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It'll be sort of the anti Jordan. You know, facts,
You're gonna get a fact that says I'm never.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Back, I'm not coming good Luss everybody. And that day
is coming and we are now in the five to
six year watch where that's going to be a real thing, right,
I mean, we just have to be realistic about that.
So you know, Blessed twenty twenty three. Bless what happened
that you were able to hit that peak and as
hard as that is, and live that moment and live
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that parade. But I'd worry that we're going to look
back at last year maybe not as much as this
one with borderline rage. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'm already there, I'm here right right.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
People are still raging about last year. I think last
year is just going to get uglier and uglier if
there isn't some kind of radical reshift in this roster.
To your point, losing a Hall of famers, you know,
argue with the best not arguably the best basketball in
the world, and wasting your twenty nine and now looking
very strongly the potential of wasting year thirty.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, it's it's rough. Talk about Shaquila from the Never Post.
That's shan Quila on Twitter. As we look at this
to being like, is there any scenario outside of winning
at all, that you don't blow this thing up next year,
fire the coach and start over.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Oh yeah, there's a lot, Because I I would. I
have a hard time believing they would. I don't have
a hard time believing Calvin Booth would want to fire
Michael Malone I have a hard time feeling it that
Kronkeys would want to fire Michael Malone. If that makes sense,
I could see him walking away. He's gonna have an
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empty nest soon, he's got a ring. He could pick
a better you can pick a different situation if he
still want it. I don't know that he does. I
don't know that it's warranted.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I do think that you have to have a loss
of rethink, but.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I don't think you're gonna see that either. I would
think that if this is a first round exit, and boy,
I just again we go back to it's not one guy.
But I was talking to one of the Nuggets broadcast team.
I said, here's what I fear. I mean, I would
think they could get past the Warriors, and Warriors are
old knows, he said, depending on the matchup who is
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in the postseason, are just gonna let Rush shoot still,
let Watchbrook fire away, and let whatever happens happens, and
say we're gonna let him beat us, and if he
beats us, that's on us. We'll live with that because
you've got to make those decisions. And I get that,
and I worry that that. Having been having the Nuggets
planned and played him on the other side of that,
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having watched him going do not be smoke for brick
modes for the top five games. That's gonna be ultimately
what doesn't And.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I hope I'm wrong, but I absolutely.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Think that's going to be the determining factor going forward,
and never mind whatever Jamal Murray brings to the table.
So I yeah, I think you're gonna have to have
a loss to rethink. I'd be surprised if there was
a coaching rethink. And now someone pointed out there's a
new wrinkle to that today because Calvin Booth was resumed
to be the one of those two that might be
on the hotter seat, and yet his son just transferred
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from Illinois. I believe to see USU. I think that
was official today. So would that be a guy that's leaving.
I don't know if you could want to connect those dots,
But yeah, I think roster wise, somebody there has got
to have a long, hard look. But I don't know
how much blowing up with those match contracts you can do.
I think it's a lot of debt share shuffling, to
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be frank, and that's because you wanted to invest.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
In those guys, Tyber Jean Kailer the never Post. That's
Sean Kailer on Twitter, switching gears here a little bit
Colorado Pro Day coming up on Friday. Of course, Chador
Travis not much working out of the combine. This is
gonna be the time for everybody to get the eyes
and ears on it. As you know, I've kind of
heard that the Chador slide is real, that you know,
Travis could could maybe you know, go in the top five,
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go third, but Shador might even not even be end
up being the second quarterback taken? Would that be a
blight on this this sort of culture build, a sort
of you know, see us the new mecca of party Central,
Pete Carroll two point zero thing that the Deon's got
going on at Colorado, I.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Think the old Honestly, that to me, that would say
more about a culture clash between ownerships in front offices
that don't love what CEU is and and I don't
agree with that. I can, I can see it, unfortunately,
but I don't agree with that. And also, let's be frank,
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I think they're worried a little bit about Dad too,
that this is not a normal celebrity sun In the
good and all the things that come with it. I
think that there is a little bit of that concern. Now,
what if something Let's put this way, let's be honest
about this would be true for Jimmy Hord and certainly
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Travis too, But if something picked your tea in Tennessee Giants, whoever,
if something would go really well crazy with the way
that the NFL who does things just do in the pros,
you know, I think there's this reaction.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
A little bit, because lord knows, I've been on that.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Side of it that if you get in a rap
of Yon Sanders, it could just go south for so
many different directions.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And then there are.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Teams that are worried about that, and I think they're
worried about the eternal question of what's the guy going
to be like. In the case of Chador, who doesn't
have his dad coaching him for the first time, I
don't have those issues with him personally. I actually like
him personally. I'm sure the reverse isn't true. But and
I've told people in Vegas who've asked me about it,
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and I'm sure people have asked you about it. I
think this is this is a pretty I mean don't
at the videos and the songs. Very smart dude, Any
dude who's one of the best college quarterbacks. And I've
been covering the college game for about three decades now,
Sor Sanders is one of the best college quarterbacks I've
ever seen. And this is Sean Key was saying that
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write that down that guy. You can google me and
the family. You have to be able to separate dad
and stuff in a little bit, I think, and I can,
and so I fill fund the slide. Surprising, he's still
slide to build. He's not a true runner in that sense.
He's a good athlete, He's not I'm not sure he's
a boat Nicks runner. So even he's as a baseline,
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But I understand the slide. I guess I'm just disappointed
and a little confused by it, if that makes sense.
But I guess we will sue.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I think you had to nail on the head there,
because the people I talked to when I was out
there at the combine, that was the concern, wasn't you know, Hey,
you know this guy's a decent player. You know he
translates to it maybe a geno Smith, you know type
in the NFL. Teddy bridgewaterman, you know that kind of thing.
But beyond that, it was his dad's got the biggest
megaphone on the planet. And if we have a couple
of bad games, all of a sudden, I'm looking for
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a new job because he's on McAfee telling everybody how
much I suck as an OC.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, I really think that this, I think and
again I've lived it. I think they're looking at it
going this could go really bad for me, and I
just don't need the distraction because this gig, whatever gig
that is, certainly if it's a gig for a team
that that George Sanders would be going to, it's absolutely
what a team that Travis Hunter would be going to.
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This job is going to be hard enough without that.
And that's that's ironically the downside of all the good will,
good what have you that the coach Prime experience has
brought to see you. That's the flip side of this.
I mean, an NFL locker room is as well, you know,
as a different beast. And I think I had somebody
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else say this to me last year talking about this.
They're like, what's what's going to happen with an with
a bunch offensive line veterans and Pluto's where who don't
care or don't like him and turn on him. What
happens that? And Dad's not there. I'm not wishing that.
I don't think that. But that's a real thing. This
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is a grown up deal. This is there is no
safety yet, this is where it goes. But on the
other hand, I've rarely met an idea. And I'm complimenting again,
But a guy is pro mature and unfazed by the
pro stuff and celebrity as Hudor Sanders is because he's lived.
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It's just walking in there. It's not gonna nothing. It's
ever gonna awe him. Ever, this's got Trump Brady up
speak out. What does take care? And maybe that's also
good in the backside, and it's gonna be like, can
I I got politiz if you're gonna get to this.
The other question I get from people too is can
I coach him? And that those two things, yeah, I
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could see that contributing. That's a huge slide because I
think that the arm I hee, all that package is
just too good and all the whole not to take
a chance on, at least given the kind of things
you will take it like this is a better college
quarterback coming out than Saint Drew Locke. Okay, I mean
this is not that guy. If you want another base flying,
if he's Gal Smith, that's a good cop heady. Yeah,
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better than Drew lock. So if you know, if high
second is there, you would think you're gonna be above that.
But yeah, it's an interesting dichotomy because what can be
good can also have it downside that way, and you know,
maybe they'll live that little by'd be shocked if it's
you know, past the Broncos pick or something that would
be here that would be insane.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Might actually I might wind up being that pick, not
the Broncos making it right there at twenty. I heard
some rumors maybe the Giants come back in We'll see
you know that. That'd be funny little bit of sentatry there.
Who knows. Sean, I appreciate the time we're on toime tonight,
but I appreciate the time. Look forward to get the
chat with you. Get here soon.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah, there're any time, bitchmait take care of.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Man, absolutely take here. Sean Killer in the never post
at Sean Quiller on Twitter. We'd come back at CFO
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six pad. I'm gonna trade altars and inside information you
can't find anywhere else. I know the top six NFL headlines.
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What rusty here?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Steelers president Art Rooney the second set at this week's
owners meetings that all signs are pointing to Aaron Rodgers
joining the team. With this now seeming like a done deal,
what do you think the hold up is at this
point in finishing things off? And who do you think
is trying to I guess who do you think is
holding things up by trying to negotiate for more?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
If I don't think anybody's try to negotiate for more,
I think the framework is already there. I think Aaron
Rodgers is trying to decide he knows this is going
to be his last team. Aaron Rodgers knows that this
is going to be his last team, and he's trying
to decide if this is the one for legacy and
whatever you think of Aaron Rodgers, in my opinion of it
as a as a person, is not that high. You
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gotta respect he's a free agent, has a right to
make his own decision and the right to not make
that decision. You gotta respect the Pittsburgh Steelers wanting to,
you know, get that decision made too. But you know,
at the same time, for you, agents gotta got a
right to make their own decision, especially on the last
team he's ever going to play for. You know, I
think Rodgers just wants to make one hundred percent sure,
and I think he's also tried to wait it out
a little bit, just to see if McCarthy's you know,
(25:34):
meniscous issue suddenly flares back up all of a sudden,
maybe the Vikings pivot, you know, that kind of thing.
But that that's really where that's at. It's not about money.
That the framework for this has been a place since
a combine like this is you know, that's old news.
The question really is is this the team? Is this
am I am? I sitting out a year? Or is
this a team and I'm going all in here? That
kind of thing? And I think he just wants to
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be sure if.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He decides the answer regarding the Steelers at least as
know this isn't the team. What do you think is
the most likely pivot there? Do you think it's the
Vikings because of something.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
No, they have no interesting sirens, So unless McCarthy gets
hurt again or something happens there, it will not be
Aaron Rodgers in Minnesota. So the pivot from the Steelers
would be retirement, retirement, sitting out for a year, that
kind of thing, and going from there. I think he
goes a place for the Steelers this year, though.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Two At this week's NFL owner meetings, Jerry Jones said
that he recently had a five plus hour meeting with
Micah Parsons and that they're largely in agreement on the
deals regarding Micah Parsons contract extension negotiations. How long do
you think we will have to wait for this deal
to get done? Do you think it'll be like these
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long drawn out, dak and seedy negotiations we've seen in
the past. And how likely do you think it is
that Parsons isn't a Dallas cowboy in twenty twenty seven.
I picked twenty seven to wait out some franchise tags
and whatever else might I.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Believe he will be. I believe that he will wind
up being a Dallas cowboy. I don't believe that the
framework is that far off. The thing about Jerry and
the reason that it takes so long, is because he
does that. He negotiates directly with the player, you know,
and tries to and tries to do that and circumvent
the agents. Parsons agent is Dave Mulgeta, who's not been
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contacted yet at all. If Parsons were smart, he would
just say, look, I've laid out what I want with
my agent, just talking with him, and once you guys
get that agreed to, we'll get it signed. I know
where I'm at, you know where you're at. But but
but Jerry has kind of an old world way of
doing things, you know, in the sense that I've got
to write to Jack Parsons, gotta you know, Parsons is
the one's got a greatest stuff. So what do I
need an agent for? And so that's that's sort of
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the thing with all that. In the end you'll get
mully get involved to get the little details wrinkled out,
you know, in terms of the cash flow and all
these kinds of things. Parsons has a number he wants,
you know, no trade clause, you know, things like that.
But the cash flow and the guarantees, the instatives and
the little details, as far as that kind of stuff,
let an agent handle that. It'll get done and he'll
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he'll winde up at a cowboy.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Do you think seeing how much you know these kind
of drawn out CD and Dak Prescott negotiations have ultimately
cost them, it might make Jerry Jones change his ways
and maybe negotiate these things a little more promptly. Or
is this a leopard not changing his thoughts?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Jerry's how old now he's not changeable. Gerry's doing things
the way Jerry does things because Jerry believes that's the
way you do things. It's the way he's always done
It's the way he's always going to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, sorry about that, but alright, clearly on the pat
McAfee show. Trey Hendrickson said he was hoping it was
an April Fool's shoke when he read Bengals exec Katie
Blackburn's quote on his contract situation.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
She told ESPN, I think you should.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Be happy at certain rates that maybe he doesn't think
he'd be happy yet. I think some of it is
on him to be happy at some point, and if
he's not, you know, that's what holds it up sometimes,
so you know, it takes him to say yes to something.
And also we have all the respect in the world
for him. Do you think, which seems a little shady
just saying kind of has to suck it up?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Do you think this relationship can be repaired?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And where do you think Trey Hendrickson will play in
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, Jovia Bengal is coming here. Whether he holds out
or not, they'll own his rights. And the Bengals played
hardball before we saw it, remember with Carson Palmer, Like
we've seen Bengals play hardball. As far as the rest
of it goes, I mean, yeah, I think I think
I think she has a point, Like there's a number
that he's got to be happy at somewhere, They've got
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to find a number they're happy at paying him, and
that they have to meet it. That that's that's how
that stuff works. I don't think just sitting there and
putting it on the player like that. I mean, that's
probably not somebody. You know, Katie Blackburn is not somebody
who talks in front of the media and talks to
the media a lot, and probably PRS is probably teaching
her how not to say things in the future. But
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I mean, honestly, Trey Hendrickson wants an obscene amount of money,
you know. I mean, he wants forty million plus per year.
He wants quarterback money as an edge rusher. Miles Garrett's
getting at Michael Parson's gonna get that. Is Trey Hendrickson
really the third best pass rusher in the NFL? And oh,
by the way, these guys on the Bengals who all
want their money, how are you going to feel the
rest of a team?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So you know, there comes a point where your number,
you know, okay, your numbers, your number, But he's anybody
else even going to give you that number?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, he's not a forty million dollar a year at
rusher and that's where he's at.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I mean, that's that's where that's the number he keeps
telling them, you know, And so I think that you
get a notoriously cheap organization that just opened the pocketbook
for a quarterback and two receivers, and you got a
defensive end who's you know, after a career year and
looking for you know, looking to get paid. And I
get it. I'm all for players trying to se get
the bag, but I mean, Trey Hendrickson, you got to
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look around read the room too.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's fine for you to have that number, but the
Bengals are offering X, Y and z. If you're not
comfortable that hold out. But what's your market to the
rest of the league is hit that number of forty million?
Because I don't think there's too many teams that are
gonna be paying him forty million a year.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And he might point to the sack production, but you
don't get that sack production if you're not playing for
a team that's in you know, forty one to forty
shootouts every game and you're facing forty to fifty dropbacks.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's the other part of it. His argument is, hey, look,
I don't have a lot of talent around me, and
I'm making it work. Everybody else's argument is it's because
you're in shootouts where you're throwing the ball sixty times
a game, and you get an inordinate amount of times
to be able to rush opposing passers. Fully agree, poor
look pretty calm drive around the Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
The NFL announced it will be incorporating AAFC stats into
their historical leaderboards and records. Some major results of this
move are that Paul Brown leaves from twenty second to
seventh on the all time wins list the AAFC's nineteen
forty eight fifteen and oh Cleveland Browns now joined the
nineteen seventy two Dolphins, is the only perfect teams in
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NFL history, and the nineteen forty eight forty nine Ers
claim the rector for most rushing yards in a single
year from the twenty nineteen Ravens with three six hundred
and sixty three rushing yards. What do you make of
this move by the NFL and the impact it's having
on their record books.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You know, I'm sure cool, I'm happy. I guess it
helps get some guys some you know that were a
part of footballs founding some run. I don't. It really
didn't affect me at all, Like I didn't really this
is a question we have Ryan Michael on again. We
need to ask him. But this was one of those
things that just did not affect me in any plausible way.
(32:36):
I'm like, all right, good for them. I don't cool.
We'll accept these new numbers and new records as far
as you know what it has done for some of
these players and coaches and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Cool. The The interesting thing is the fifteen and o season.
But is anybody even going to recognize that? I mean,
the Patriots already busted that, So I don't you know,
I didn't do anything for me.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, I hope it cheapens the Champagne celebration the seventy
two Dolphins have every year.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
That feels very obnoxious to me. Times the NFL I
celebrate however they want till somebody breaks the BONEX coming
for the five.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Roger Goodell said at the owners meetings that he expects
the NFL to make an announcement about whether or not
players will be allowed to compete in the twenty twenty
eight Olympics Games sometime in the next sixty days. What
do you expect Roger Goodell in the NFL wild rode
aside and how bad of a misstep misstep do you
think it would be to stop players from competing?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, they literally can't stop them, so that's the thing.
I mean, they can't. There's nothing in the collective Targeting
Agreement that would allow them a mechanism to be able
to do that. It's not a competing league, it's an
international cooperative festival. There's nothing they could do. So I
imagine that Roger Goodell will come out and say, yeah,
we look forward to NFL players competing in the Olympics.
The only thing that could put any sort of damper
(33:58):
on that would be players who have injury type things
in their contracts for offseason, for offseason things that that
might be something that that would hold some people back.
But overall, no, this is it's weird that they even
are pretending that they have any leverage here. They don't.
So yeah, so it's just posturing in your opinion, Yeah,
(34:19):
I don't. Yeah, I don't even know why you would
come out and say anything about this because it's so
obviously stupidly wrong.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Who who are a few players you absolutely want to
see on that twenty twenty eight team USA Olympics.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well, oh, I mean you want some burners at receiver.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You're gonna want the you know, you know what the
Tyreek Hills Wi the way, that kind of stuff. For
the DK you know, you want Mike Evans, you know
those kind of guys you want, not necessarily Evans, but
those type guys. You want a big jump ball guy
that nobody can defend and a burner nobody can catch.
It's it's flag football, so you don't have to worry
about the tackling aspect of it. And so I think
that works as well just as well on defense too.
You got some of these corners that are that are
(34:55):
gamblers that can they go after interceptions that maybe don't
tackle all that Well, some of those guys might be
in there. I think you'd want like a Kyle Hamilton
back there is a safety, you know, that kind of stuff.
And then the interesting thing there is going to be
the quarterback position. Who you know, they've got a guy
who's done really well in playing in flag football for
a long time. But you know, I think people will
(35:17):
be tuned in to see Lamar Jackson you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I mean I think we have a good example of
this right now, where you have five on five basketball
in the Olympics, and you have three on three basketball,
and the three on three basketball is a lot of
guys that are professional three on three basketball players, and
no one watches that one or really cares about it.
Everyone cares about the five on five game with the
global superstars.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That we all want to see.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
On the quarterback front, I think a sleeper name because
everyone's going to go to the obvious elite guys. I
think a sleeper that would be really good in this environment.
You brought up the lack of tackling Kyler Murray. He's
incredibly quick, he's got a great arm, can be accurate,
all that stuff, the scene over a line and all,
that's not as much of a problem. And I think
him being so low to the and his flags being
(36:01):
so much lower to the ground might actually benefit him.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But that's a good name. I would say that Kyler
and Lamar are probably the tight quarterback that you would
want back there with that extra dimension, being able to
run the ball and all that kind of stuff too.
It just depends. I mean, we got to make sure
he's not a new call of duty drop during the
twenty twenty eight Olympics. That's that's a great call out.
You can't can't have that.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Six.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Former All Pro.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Lineman and Super Bowl champion Andrew Whitworth is pushing for
the NFL to adopt a Shield award to acknowledge the
best offensive lineman every season. What do you think of
Whitworth's idea and who do you think would have been
deserving of that award.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
In twenty twenty four. Oh, that's a good question, man,
That's a really good question. Blindhogs and acorns. Yeah, I
don't know, all right, who I mean, like Quinn Minors
and the Broncos. I guess it would be somebody you'd
you'd you'd consider for that. I don't know. I don't
(36:57):
know who I would necessarily.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Trent Williams would have probably maybe the last probably time
that he would have raked him in over the last
few years.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
The best offensive lines in football last year were Philly
and Denver Detroit. Yeah, they'd be up there, so I
think you'd have to I think you'd have to look
at that lane.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Johnson would be a great name, yeah, or Dickerson or
Milata over there.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
They've got some guy got some good ones there in Philadelphia.
That's that's an interesting question. I had not I had
not thought about that, So we would have to be
on the list somewhere.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It should be just one catch all offensive Lineman award
or do you think there should be AERI.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I kind of like it as a unit award, you know,
I took for me because offensive lines tend to just
be that way rather than one guy. I mean, think
about it. Is there any offensive line that has one
guy that's that's highly successful? You know, it's one guy
as an All Pro and a bunch of scrubs and
they're the unit is successful.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Really, it's a unit defined by its weakest link, not
as strongest right. And so that's why I mean, that's
why you saw Houston do what they did the sofseason.
You had to do one guy over there and and
then you had four scrubs. So I you know, I
I like the premise, but I think I would.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Award it as a unit the Shield Award, and it
could be more of a team thing and you got
five guys all pulling for each other, you know that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I like that idea, though, that'd be great. It has
to be a giant trophy though big giant. It will
be some belts, like some big big shield belt up, Yeah,
big shield buckle thing. They all get that kind of thing.
Like it's gotta be something different. Offensive linemen are a
different breed man. You gotta get something for the you know,
for the big fellows like that. That that works for them,
works for their their image too, Like that motif. I'd
like even a shield, like if it was like an
(38:34):
NFL you know shaped shield.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Somebody's got like the angry run scepter and the other
guy's got the shield.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, it was like, oh yeah, get them together on
just inside them go against some defensive guys.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Could go to a Renaissance festival and have a battle.
Just oh five six six nine zeros and text line.
I had a bunch of uh, a bunch of good
texts coming in here. Somebody said, I still PTSD from
the Broncos. Blowing a win in the last second against
our nemesis, the Chiefs that lost last night was identical
in basketball format also against our rivals, same sickening feeling
(39:08):
too soon. Zach was actually at the game.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You were there.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
It was miserable. I that one hurts so bad. It
was the highest of highs to the lowest of low's,
really quick.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
It.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, it reminds me of that Chiefs game a lot.
If I was in Arrowhead, that one probably would have
hurt more. But man, I think it hurts especially bad
because it wasn't just you know, this is a team
like the Chiefs, that has been a bit of you know,
an Achilles heel for the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But it's also.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
An incredible historic performance from Yokich. You know, when he retires,
this could be the best single game stat line from
his entire career and it ended up being a loss
because of bad mental mistakes.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It's awful. Yeah, it was just you know, yeah, frustrating, frustrating.
I've had a couple other texts here. I do want
to try to get to get to five, six, six
times Yeros text line you listen to Broncos country to
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