04-16-24 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight.But with all Brian Dick Ferguson Grant Smith
five six six nine Zeros text linegot a good text that came in right
before we went to break and isreferencing all the people that want the Broncos
to trade up for a quarterback.They said, what's up? So do

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these people not understand that we aremore than a quarterback away and that trading
the next two first is insane.We're projected to be a bottom five team
this year, so we're willing toinclude potential top five picks the next two
years. And he goes on tosay he's all for Jordan Travis. I
here's the thing. You take theswing for the quarterback when you think you're

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a quarterback away. That's what theBroncos did with Russell Wilson at the time
when they brought Russell Wilson in.First of all, they thought they were
getting Russell Wilson of your Second ofall, the Broncos believed at that point
in time that they were a quarterbackaway. It felt like we were a
quarterback away. It did feel likeit. Maybe we're a head coach away,

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but but that was the thing that'sthe reason that you do that.
You make that move, you pushall If you're drafting number one, it's
different. I'm not saying that theCincinnati Bengals, for instance, shouldn't have
drafted Joe Burrow because they didn't havea team built. Troy had the number
one pick, you didn't have totrade anything. But the Denver Broncos are

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sitting at twelve. You're a teamthat's not a quarterback away, and the
idea that we're close just goofy,yeah, I mean, look at our
moves, look at the moves wemade this offseason. They're telling us we're
not close, right, And sothe whole idea, you don't move massive

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assets to get the quarterback when youdon't have the team around them. You
can do that if you if yougot the number one pick, you draft
the quarterback, but you don't tradeeverything to go from there. The teams
that have traded up usually had ateam around them. There are some exceptions,
for instance, Buffalo, but theyknew they were in a three year

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building process anyway and just decided todo it. And thank god they got
those you know, two rough yearsfrom Josh Allen out of the way while
they were building the team. They'rebuilding it out right, But you go
and look at it. Who hastraded up. The San Francisco forty nine
ers who traded up to get TreyLance and then back toward their way in
the Brock Party a little bit later. They were already made team. They

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had been working with a journeyman quarterbackand Jimmy Garoppolo to build a team around
them, and they moved all theassets when they knew they had the team
and were a quarterback away. Yeah, they were truly a quarterback away.
The New York Jets believe they werea quarterback away. They moved up for
Zach Wilson. They had Zach Wilsonat number two, but they went ahead

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and made the move for Aaron Rodgersbrother. The Broncos thought they were a
quarterback away. They made the movefor Russell Wilson. You go back and
you look at teams that have tradedup, and I promise you what you're
going to find are teams that believethat they are a quarterback away. Five

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six six nine zero. By theway, I got an anonymous text while
we were on our break as wellthat said, agreeing with you that the
best thing the Broncos can do ismove on from Court and Sutton trade him
to a team and he, likeyou said, they're not He's not going
to put up numbers with a quarterbacklike Jared Stidham or a rookie quarterback this

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year. Do you have any guesseson who that might have been? It
might have been might have texted methis agreeing with you, m Nick Friks
I'm not sure. Average black guy. Oh love it. Nick. Can't
wait to see back in studio hereon on Thursday. And the Nuggets know

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who they're gonna play in the firstround of the playoffs. Yeah, we'll
get to I mean it's gonna bethe Lakers. We'll get to that in
a second. But I want tocontinue this point here real quick, because
you talk about teams that have tradedup thought they were a quarterback away versus
teams that made a bad decision tradingup to go get a guy. Carolina
gutted the roster and gutted their draftpicks to go get Bryce Young. Dumb
move. They were not a quarterbackaway, but the owner wanted it,

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so they did it. You lookat Trey Lance, Niners thought they were
a quarterback away. It's just happenedto be Brock Party instead of Trey Lance.
You can go back and look atteams that thought that they were that
did trade it up for guys thatthey didn't think they were, like Sam
Darnold or Justin Fields. The Bearsweren't a quarterback away. Chats were quarter

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back away at that point. JoshRosen Cardinals traded up, didn't they.
Teams that already had a guy hadit built. Lamar Jackson, they already
had it built in Baltimore. KansasCity Chiefs Pat Mahomes, they already hit
it built in Kansas City. Theyhad the number one offense already when they

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moved from twenty seven to was itten for Mahomes? Yeah, the Texans
at the time thought they had itbuilt when they moved up for Deshaun Watson
twenty five to twelve. Teams thatdidn't have it built tend to have a

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gigantic bust on their hands because theycan't surround the quarterback with the adequate talent
to set them up to put themin the position of maximum success and win
games. Ninety percent of roster constructionis building something so your quarterback can make
it work, and ten percent ofit's building a defense. Those percentages are

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a little offt but you get theidea that would be something Nick Ferguson would
not agree with. Oh, Iknow I'm saying it. I'm saying it
because I'm messing with him. Iknow he's listening right now. But that's
that's the thing. It's bad rosterconstruction to mortgage everything to go get a
guy that you can't build around.The Broncals when they made the move for

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us, they're not in this placebecause they made the move for Russell Wilson.
They made this. They're in thisplace because they had a bad head
coach and it didn't work out.They made that they took the swing.
They were a quarterback away. Theytook the swing on a quarterback. The
head coach didn't the first head coachwas in over his head, and the
second head coach didn't want to workwith us. And that's why we're here
where we are. They've they don'thave draft picks because they also traded for

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a head coach. And that wasmy original opposition of the whole thing to
begin. Though you already did thiswith a quarterback. You know he doesn't
want to work with this guy.You're trading away another first and a second
for a head coach, and nowyou've started the fan base to the point

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where they would have got another threedrafts. And so what You're gonna surround
that guy with the Little Jordan Humphriesof the world, Like, with all
due respect to little Jordan, andI might have to call him Big Jordan
after that played last year. I'mjust saying. And I had people today

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like, what do the Broncos needa tight end? I'm like, man,
you got a right tackle that doesn'tlook like he's a starting caliber right
tackle. You have no center rightnow, nothing in the tight end room.
Who's your scariest receiver. He's holdingout Jimon They looked like he lost
a step. Samaja had a badcase in the Melvin Gordon's the Leo mcgloughlin

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was electric when he got on thefield, But when you got on the
field, you kind of knew whatwas coming. It's like when they used
to put Darren Sprolls on the field, you knew what was coming. I
think you're set at the guards andyou know Garrett Bull's at left tackle.
Okay, you're set there. IfCourtland shows up, you've got one.

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Marvin Mims is supposed to be theguy to replace Jerry Judy. We haven't
seen it yet. Josh Reynolds isa mid tier guy. You brought in
Tim Patrick's coming off an injury.I don't know that you have the I

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don't know that you have the weapons. I don't know that you have that.
Like, like, what are youwhat situation are you putting a rookie
in five six sixty nine zero?Tell me I'm wrong. Nugget's gonna played.
Lakers, hang the banner, playin banner, Lakers win, hang
the play in banner, the midseason tournament and the play in Yeah,

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the Lakers. They hung a midseason tournament banner or what it was technically
called the end season tournament whatever.God remember those people they call twitter X.
Now that's that. You can't makeme do it. The Lakers at
one point were up pretty big.Well into the third quarter. They were

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they were whipping them. Seventy fivefifty seven was six oh five left in
the third quarter. The Pelicans managedto cut it to a ninety three ninety
three tie with three thirty to gobefore the Lakers pulled away, maintained a

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four point advantage, trading buckets andfoul shots. Zion Williamson tried to drag
the rest of those cowboys on thePelicans to the playoffs, couldn't do it.
He got hurt, had to goto the locker room. Forty points,
eleven boards, five assists. Hewas the reason they were back in
that game. It was the onlyreason they were that game. Lebronz stat
line twenty three, nine and nine, just keeps doing it. Eighty twenty

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points, fifteen boards, watching morethirteen points, Austin Reeves sixteen, d'
angel Russell twenty one and six assists. Does anything about them give you pause?
If you're the Nuggets in the firstround, Lakers, we've owned them

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recently. The Nuggets are a teamthat's built to destroy the Lakers. If
they lose, that would be ashocker. I was just watching their offense
at the end of that game,and there's nothing that scares me about the
Lakers. I mean, you know, like Ady can get hot, and
he can you know, inside andall that kind of stuff, and he
and lebron do get a lot ofcall, a lot of foul calls,
but I mean that team, youknow, the way it's designed, you

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need hotchimra Reeves and probably gave Vincentoff the bench to get pretty hot.
In order to beat the way theNuggets play, the Nuggets would have to
go cold. It's probably the bestway to put that. I feel like
the Nuggets are poised to having andI don't know if they'll sweep the Lakers

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again, it'd be sweet if theydid, but they're poised to beat them
like this is this is a matchupwith with a team that's you know,
all due respect to the career ofLebron James, he's not the same guy
he used to be. Right,even if he does put up twenty three,
nine and nine, it does notscare you like the Lebron. It
doesn't because most of the you know, the Reeves and hotching Moro, it's

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it's empty calories, right. Yeah, they put up twenty nine combined points
between the two of them, butyou know, hot Tim Moore had one
rebound, one assist to steal inno blocks. Reeves at least got some
assists and pulled a couple of boardsdown. And D'Angelo Russell with twenty one.
I mean he could have a nightlike that, and then he can

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have a night where he has sevenpoints. He's that's to say he's so
sporadic. He chipped in twenty onetonight, but that's not a regular thing
for D'Angelo Russell. You look atyou know what he has done the last
couple of games. He comes inand gives you what was it? Would

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he give him to night twenty one? Something like that. Yes, just
a couple of nights ago against thesame team, he had nineteen, But
then he had four against Memphis inthirty four minutes, zero for five from
downtown. Yeah. And he hada couple of games like that against the
Nuggets in the playoffs last year.The three previous games he was over five

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to two for seven, one forseven. It'll have a six for twelve
night and go right back to youknow, he's just a streaky shooter.
He'll have three or four games whereshoots really bad, and then he'll come
in one, one hot one.I'm feeling overly confident in the Nuggets to
repeat this year. Oh we'll see. I mean they got a couple,
you got an okay, see team, it's gonna be tough. I think

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a phoenix team. It's tough.I think. Okay, see if the
Warriors play them in the first round, or even the Pelicans. I don't
know if they make it out ofthe first round. Oh, I think
they will. I I you're agood basketball you know. Sga was somebody
I was telling Dave and Al andRyan about last couple of years, and
they were all a couple of yearsago and they were all like, whatever,
whatever, whatever. I wok okay, because uh, what was it

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two years ago when I was likehe should be in the MVP conversation and
they're like what. I'm like,Yeah, it's him in four Tower Boys
down there in Oklahoma City, andhe's you know, this dude has s
put up thirty a night and there'sthere's not a scoring thread on that roster
but him. Now they've got sometalent around him. Yeah, and he's
gonna be probably squarely second place inMVP voting this year behind the Joker,
And I think that's reasonable. Ido too. He's put up tremendous numbers

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this year and leading his team tothe number one seed. They are the
number one three point percentage team inthe NBA. They can absolutely vomit from
downtown and SGA will shoot thirty fivepercent. He's not even the best sniper
that they've got. You look atJacleb Williams. They've got who shoots forty

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three percent from downtown. There.They are a team that scares me.
You got guys that could come inand shoot well, guys like Aaron Wiggins,
Isaiah Joe dort Homegird of course isa you know, is a fun
player to watch. They've got guysthat can come in and contribute. I

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I am a little bit more scaredof them than I am some of these
other teams. The one thing thatthey don't do well is rebound. That's
the that's the that's the one thingthey just they don't do well. See,
I think they're they remind me ofthe Nuggets from like four years ago
before Aaron Gordon or whatever rights missingthat a piece. They're all still very

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young getting to their prime. Butthey're gonna go through some lumps in the
playoffs, I think before they getover the hump. I think in two
years they'll be terrifying for the Nuggets. But right now, I think they're
still missing a piece and they're justtoo young. They don't have the experience.
I think it's experience matters in theNBA playoffs absolutely, Like you always
say, it's a second season.Basically, yeah, they got to come

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here. If they end up havingto come here, then they match up
together. Hid your daughters? Iguess you got that reference? H Josh
Giddy? Yeah you can google it. I thought you was a dude.

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No you didn't. They got youon video, dude, They've got you
in HD in four K, absolutelyawful, five six six nine zeros text
line. We come back with Tuckle, Ryan, Michael go inside the numbers.
That's the case that Mike Channon shouldhave been in the Hall of Fame

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before this. Ne Broncos Country NightKA five six six one zeros text line
Real quick? Could? Dallas Cowboyshave signed former Broncos earunning back Royce Freeman
to a one year deal. Freemanis still sticking around the league. Played
for four teams last four years,including obviously the Broncos, Carolina Panthers,
used in Texans in the LA Rams. Best season was as a rookie.

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The Broncos rush for five hundred andtwenty one yards and five touchdowns one hundred
and thirty carries past four seasons hasa totally two hundred and nine carries,
seven to seventy five yards, twotouchdowns, twenty nine receptions two four or
an I'll slot in there with abackfield that has Reco Dowdle Douce, Vaughan,
Malik Davis, and Snoop Connor.On the death chart of the Dallas

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Cowboys figured a draft for running backas well. You can't wait common Sparrel's
hotline. Bring on our good buddy, Ryan Michael, Ryan, how you
doing this evening? Now? Insidethe number is with Ryan Michael. Get
a little music in there too.Look at that. I like that.

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Yeah, We're we're ran into itevery time. It's like, you know,
it's like one of those little things. We're just adding a little bit
to it every time we get thatthing. You're gonna have your own walk
up theme music by the time we'redone. We're gone places. Oh we
are right. Do you have anyDo you have any particular themes you go
on your little icy DC back inblack? You know, you know Mark
Morrison's Return of the Mac. Isany any particular walk up song that would
be your song? You know?Any of the above sounds good to me,

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so I'll let you guys surprise me. I can't pick you. We
can't pick now. No, no, no, no, absolutely now we're
gonna we cannot pick your walk up. You have to pick the walk up.
So you gonna put you in thespot right now. You got to
choose, and I can't make itfor you. Oh we got a brainstorm.
If you're asking me off the topof my head, I got nothing
for you, then give me giveme a day. Okay. I just
don't do something that's like overly lod. Don't choose like Bohemian Rhapsody or something
just to just to be that guyand be difficult. You know, we

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got ad Vido and we gotta wegot to sit through the whole thing while
we're trying to or we're trying toget you out there. I'm just saying
I would be the guy that woulddo that to somebody else and be antagonistic.
But don't don't do that. It'sbeen one of those kind of days.
Speaking of antagonistic. You know,I'm a bit of an antagonist on
Twitter at times. I know shocksyou are. I can hear it say

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you're you're a heel me. Icould never but you know, we we've
we've gone over some things over thelast couple of weeks, I guess,
and I think that with regard tosome of the stuff that that that we're
going to have you talk about today. So there's stuff is stuff I've talked
about. But I get a lotof pushback. I get a lot of
pushback on everything. You get apush back on trading pats are tam We'll

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get to that in a minute.But I get a lot of pushback on
not wanting to mortgage everything to tradeup. And you got the Twitter chart
grading the Broncos first and second roundpicks post Super Bowl fifty, So why
don't you tell us a little bitabout what the data says there and why
I'm right sure. So what Idid was a breakdown of all of our

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first and second round draft selections startingin twenty sixteen. And because I like
the color code things, I guessI should explain that for me, green
ranges from good to really good,sometimes great in the case of Pats or
ten, Yellow is average to sometimespretty good, and red ranges from disappointment
to downright bust, which would bepacked in lynch. So going through the

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colors for my busts or anyone thatI put in red at kJ Hamler,
Drew Locke. I hope that Nick'snot listening when I said Drew lock because
we'll talk about it. You shutyour mouth, You shut your dirty mouth,
sir, disappointment. Not DeMarcus Walkerand Paxton Lynch. I'm very comfortable
giving him the bust label. Inyellow, we have Morgan Mims, who

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could one day, you know,growth to be a Green. You know
he says Pro Bowl, not asa special team squayer. So Nick Bernido,
Javonte Williams, Jerry Judino a fan, Dalton Risener At Courtland Sutton,
and Adam Patsis. For the Green, we have, sir ten. We
have Bradley Chubb. We have GaryBowles who's still ninety nine starts into his
career, started a lot of gamesfor Denvers. So it's not easy to

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continue to get that starting out inthe NFL, especially at that position.
So if you look at the overallpercentages, Ben just combining the first and
second round picks, four of thefifteen selections were read, eight of the
fifteen we're yellow, three of thefifteen we're green. So you're looking at
seventy three point three percent, rangingfrom yell to green. That's not bad.
It's better than most NFL teams.So as far as what we've been

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doing in the draft at the topof the draft, not so bad.
But to the point of not mortgagingyour future to surround your quarterback with a
team that's not going to support him, I'm on board with you there.
That would be an awful decision.Well, and that's the thing I mean,
I don't understand the concept of ofyou know, emptying the magazine as

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it were, to go get aguy and then realizing you got noamo to
do anything with h for a fewyears. I mean generally, when when
teams do that? And I wentback and went over examples of that.
Generally, if a team moves upand they haven't already built the team they're
they're usually in trouble. I mean, you could look at the Jets with
with Zach Wilson. Uh. Youcould look at uh uh we listened several
of them. Uh. You lookat at Mahomes for Kansas City. That's

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an example of the building a teamand then going up and getting them.
You look at Trey Lance, Well, they back toward the way to Brock
party, but the idea was togo up and get the quarterback. The
Niners were already built. They gotin there with a journeyman quarterback and building
that thing after after standing all theway down. And so for me,
I guess I look at this acouple of different ways and and I don't
think that emptying out the clip isthe way to go. So then people

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suggest to me, well, wecould just trade Pats or Tan, to
which I at that point get apop leptic because I'm like, Okay,
so you want to trade Sirtan,not get back what you think you're going
to get for him, And howare we replacing Sirtan because we spent that
capital getting the quarterback. I couldn'tagree with you more. And I think
a lot of folks just think thatit's mad. And so I would say

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to anybody who's giving you the pushback, they need to provide some examples of
teams who have traded up to thatspot. Forget even trading up for the
first or second overall pick. Realisticallywe're looking at the fourth quarterback taken in
the draft. So I would likefor anybody who's giving you that pushback to
provide examples of anybody who has givenup three number ones and a starting player

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that's roughly what we'd be looking atand ended up having success in the long
run with that force quarterback in thedraft selection. I'd like to hear some
examples, because I can tell youright now it's an invisible list right Generally,
there are too many examples of teamsthat did not have the team built
and then traded up to get thequarterback and more successful. I think the

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most glaring example, I think isBuffalo, but that's kind of an outlier
because it was a brand new regimetaking over that had a plan they knew
they were saying for a few years, and they were starting to build around
the quarterback. Anyway, in mostother cases, it just doesn't work.
I agree, I agree, AndI think for Denver the trouble is,
and we've talked about this before,right where Elway was more successful in free

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agency and Payden has been more successfulin terms of the draft. And I
don't want to take away any ofthe credit that John deserves for what he
did during his time here, butI would say that he definitely benefited from
the Manning effect, which credit tohim for bringing Payden here to Denver.
But the quarterback parusel that we've beengoing through, in my view, is

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the ultimate free agent deterrent. Thatdoesn't mean the answer is to mortgage the
farm, the tools and the resourcesto leave someone who you hope to be
a good farmer without any of theresources to farm. So you know,
when you have the star quarterback inplace that's going to incentivize good free agents
to come to town. Can't forceit because even if, even if,

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as we've talked about, it's anythingbut a sure thing, JJ McCarthy is
as good as advertised, if youplace them in a bad scenario, you're
not going to get Peyton Manny results. So players are going to need to
see JJ McCarthy deliver before they're incentivizedto come to Denver well, right,
And that's the thing somebody today wastalking about. We were talking about Geno
Smith, and I'm like, youknow what, Geno's a thirty four year
old journeyman who's caught fired the lastcouple of years. And whether that's Ham

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or Shane Waldron or both whatever,we'll find out. But the reality is
Geo started his career in sort ofa similar situation. I mean, he
was a guy who's taken the secondround, but they needed a quarterback.
They didn't have the team built aroundthem, and it didn't work. It
took till later in his career wherehe went to a team that had the
pieces that it worked. Yeah,I think that we continue to look for
these ideal scenarios that are not realistic. And I would say the one thing

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that I file in the back ofmy head is Sean Payton decided to come
out of retirement to come to Denver, and I think he was fully aware
of the possibility that Russ Wilson wouldn'tpan out the way he wanted it to
pan out, because he knew thekind of system he was going to run,
So the result shouldn't surprise anyone,much less Sean Payton. So facing
the scenario that we're facing now insalary capell without having the contender roster that

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Patrick Mahomes walked into in twenty seventeen, Sean Payton had to be prepared for
this scenario. I have a hardtime believing that he's going to go Jared
Sidam at qv one for seventeen gamesnext year. But I think Sean Payton's
been around this league long enough toknow that mortgage in your future. To
get a quarterback to put on aroster that isn't complete yet isn't going to
work out any better. So youknow, the draft can't come any sooner.

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I can't wait to see what they'regoing to do. Yeah, tired
of the speculation myself. Five sixsix text. I'll talk with Ryan Michael.
Let be Ryan Michael on Twitter.We don't call it X I call
it Twitter here. You know,we were talking a little bit earlier today
also about Mike Shanahan, and youknow you pose the question, is Mike
Shanahan below the Hall of Fame?I think there are two coaches currently out

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there that that I believe are absolutestone cold should have already been in the
Hall of Fame guys, and it'sMike Shanahan and Tom Coughlin. Well,
let's say you for me. MikeShanahan is an absolute no brainer. I
mean, the imprint of what heleft on this league is still being felt
today, right. Different variations ofthe Shanahan offense that you think, the
pre snap motion, the play action, the wide zone, the West Coast

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offense with moving parts where the threatof the run opens things up for the
passing game, and efficiency in thepassing game opens things up for the run
game. And if you look backeven at a lot of the folks coaching
today, right, I mean,his tree in Washington included Kyle, Sean
McVay, Matt before Mike McDaniel,and so his presence is still being felt

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to this day in the form ofKyle Shanahan and a lot of coaches who
coached underneath him. I take alook at Mike Shanahan's resume and it's so
much more to me then than justthe two Super Bowls he won in Denver.
He's a six time conference champion,five times of Denver, two of
them being as a head coach.And he was the offensive coordinator in San
Francisco, and he took over asthe offensive coordinator in San Francisco in nineteen

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ninety two. Steve Young became theleague MVP in his very first year as
as starter. So if you thinkeven how good Aaron Rodgers was early on
once he had the opportunity to play, he wasn't named the league MVP unto
his fourth season as a starter.Steve Young won two MVPs in his first
three years, all with Mike Shanahanat the helm. So I mean in

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totality he got six different quarterbacks tothe Pro Bowl back when making the Pro
Bowl wasn't such an easy thing.It was actually an accomplishment back then.
So under Mike Shanahan as either acoordinator, a positional coach, an OCI
or a head coach, John Elliewent to seven Pro Bowls. Steve Young
went to three, including two Firstteam All Pro selections. During that run,

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two MVPs Brian Greasy went to thePro Bowl. Jake Plumber, Jake
Cutler, Robert Griffin the third ledthe league in yards per attempt and had
one of the greatest rookie passing seasonsin the history of the NFL. One
of the greatest unanswered questions is goingto be how good he could have been
if his career wasn't derailed early byinjury. John Elway from eighty three up

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through ninety four pre Shanahan, hada career passer rating of seventy six point
eight. As soon as Mike tookover, it bumped all the way up
eleven point nine points. At eightyeight point seven. Torell Davis won an
MVP. Just the amount of successthat followed Shanahan is unspeakably underrated, given
the reality that he's not yetting thePro Football Hall of Fame. Yeah,

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the impact is not just what hedid in terms of you know, in
terms of his record, in termsof you know, the quarterbacks, all
that kind of stuff. I mean, it's the impact on the game across
the board. I mean, youjust you look at this stuff. It
has been a massive impact across theboard. It's interesting to me because over
the last I oh, gosh,what is it, thirteen seasons, I

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think something like that that Washington had. When's the last time I mean,
Joe Gibbs was head coaching last timethey had a double digit win season that
wasn't Mike Shanahan. I mean thatthat should say, say, Mike Shanahan
got them to a wild card ata ten win season, you know where
they won the division with that rookieyear you talked about with RG three before,
you know, before it got derailed. But I mean that's the more

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abund franchise that he came in thereand brought success to. It had been
seven years prior to his arrival thatthey had had a double digits win season
and they haven't had one since.They have not had a double digit win
season since. So that's I mean, I think that goes on to say
exactly the kind of impact yet,and then you look at the coaching treat
you look at the fact that everybodyin the league is running that offense.

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You know, I was talking toGrant earlier, we talked about the New
Orleans Saints. The New Orleans Saintswanted to update their offense, so they
went from what we're running here towhat the guy who made his bread and
butter here has got the whole leaguerunning. You're not wrong, You're not
wrong. I mean when the imprintis felt to this very day, and
I think back to that twenty twelveteam in Washington and in just how good

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RG three was, just how goodAlfred Morris was stepping into the league.
Put up almost fourteen hundred yards onthe ground alone. And there's success that
Shanahan was able to get out ofthe ground game. And so Terrell Davis,
like his run the numbers that weput on Twitter the other day when
he was healthy between ninety five andninety eight under Nke Shanahan, he averaged

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not a career best. We're notjust talking ninety eight here, we're talking
every seventeen games he produced two thousand, one hundred and sixteen yards and seventeen
total touchdowns from scrimmage. And whatTD did in the postseason was even more
impressive. The average almost one hundredand sixty yards a game, one and
a half touchdowns a game. Soif you expanded that out to a seventeen
game sample size, you're looking attwo thousand, seven hundred one yards twenty

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five and a half touchdowns. Butafter TD have Landis, Gary put up
one thousand, three hundred and eighteenyards from scrimmage. Mike Anderson the next
year, one thousand, six hundredand fifty six. Clinton Portis during his
two year run average twenty two hundred, fourteen and eighteen touchdowns per year.
Ruben drones one four hundred and eightyone yards in two thousand and five,
Team Nick was on the combination ofTatum Bell, Mike Anderson and the rest

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of two thousand, five hundred andthirty nine yards. The accomplishments are literally
it's such a lengthy list, wedon't have enough time to even talk about
it. Yeah, he's obviously him, Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, Chuck
Nold, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, the only seven coaches
that went back to back Super Bowls, you know, and then twelve coaches
in history to have four wins inone postseason. You know, he's in

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that list. There's there's just somany and it's just one of those things
that you start to look at thecoaching tree. First of all, I
mean the guys that he worked under, some you know, definitely some names
to Dan Reege, George Seaford,Barry Switzer, you know, guys like
that. But you go on tolook at the guys that were his assistant
coaches that became head coaches in theNFL, Art Shell, Carl Derel,
Ji Bookcart, Greg Robinson, Garykubiact And Brewster, Troy Calhoun, John

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Ambry, Anthony Lynn, show Vey, Kyle Shanahan, Jet Fish, Charlie
Jackson, Met Lafleur, Lu Spanos, Mike McDaniel. He's got former players
in Cliff kings Brand, Anthony Lynnthat went on to become head coaches.
And then you know, five ofhis execs w on become general managers.
Rick Smith, John Elway, ReggieMackenzie, Dave Gettelman, and John Lynch

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Lord. Yeah, the list isnever ending. And one of the things
been that always stood out to meabout Shanahan as an offensive minded coaches.
He was always able to put defensivecoordinators into place to have balance on the
defensive side of the ball. Istill stay to this day the two thousand
and three to two thousand and fiveBroncos, they remind me of the Bills
from the nineteen nineties in the sensethat they had such balance on offense and

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defense, double digit wins every year, top ten offense, top ten defense
every year. And you compare thatto some of the success that Sean Payton
had in New Orleans. He hadtremendous success on the offensive side of the
ball. Sure, but if youlook at points for under Sean Payton,
I mean you had defenses that finished. I'm taking a look right now.

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Twentieth, Yeah, thirty, first, thirty second, back to back years
that would have never happened on MikeShanahan. Right. Ryan has always be
appreciate it. Gonna cut a littleshort here, but we'll look forward to
talking to you again next week.Been looking forward. Absolutely, take care
of Bronco's Country to Night can't wait.