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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Grassmith here with you, Coach Prime, echoing what a
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lot of people think. The reason we're having certain discussions
about certain things is because it's Shad or Sanders, his son,
and not somebody else.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think that applies across the board.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I think that applies to certain draft evaluations you see
out there. I think that applies to some of the
vitriol leveled at him for the number retirement thing. You know, Nick,
we've we've talked about this a little bit, but we
had a chance to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's, you know, the alumni.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
There's there's a lot of alumni out there that are
not happy with the retirement of his number, a surprising amount.
It seems like that what I would call the new fans,
the Coach Prime fans that have come to you know,
Colorado fans since Coach Prize has been here. The younger kids,
they're all for it, they love it. But to me,
it feels like the old school guys are a little
bit more against the retirement of the number, not necessarily Travis,
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but of Shador.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do you the first of all college football should numbers
be retired to begin with? Second of all, where do
you come down.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
On all this, Well, let me ask it that your
last question first, As far as should numbers be retired,
I think that's left up to.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Certain institutions, because I did.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
If you retire so many numbers, you're not going to
have a bunch of numbers to kind of fill out
a roster. And there's a difference between having a number.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Retired in the jersey retire I've.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Seen places where there are player's jersey was retire, that
particular color scheme, the way that it was decked out,
that particular.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Jersey was no longer going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Present, and the team is going to wear them, right,
But when it comes to numbers, listen, if you think
of player has done a certain thing and he's deservant
of that, then fine, I totally get it. But you
can't retire the numbers of every single individual. Now, to
address the pink elephant in the room and some of
the CEO alumni who seemed to be beside themselves that
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such a thing should even actually occur, I would say,
I'll tell them, and I've said this on social media. See,
your level of frustration is aim in the direction of
the wrong person. It is not the fault of Travis
Orstrador or coach Prime, because there were many other coaches
that came before Coach Prime who could have answered this,
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who could have stood on the table for this to happen.
Even for those alumni who have stood on the table,
either for themselves or someone else, don't take that up
with Coach Prime, and don't take it out on Shador Sanders.
And as though I said to some individuals on social
media and some individual probably via text messages, if you
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have a problem, you go up to see You drive
up there, get a meeting with someone else in the
athletic department and have that discussion.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Because this is not a prime issue.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And for those individuals struggling with trying to understand why
this is occurring. To me, you look at Travis history
in the past two years here.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
With the CU buffs, very history.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You look at Shador, I would say historic as well.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Did he win the Heisman?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Was he in the running? Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Did he get the Johnny and Ninas Award for the
top quarterback in college football?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes he did.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So if anyone wants receipts, I'd say to you.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Go on see you Buff's website.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Hell, google it and you'll see Shardor Sanders name up there.
When it comes to single game touchdowns, multiple games as
far as multiple touchdowns in one particular game. In some categories,
he's on the list more than once.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this is a byproduct.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Of individuals not really liking the coach prime effect. And
I'm gonna call it that because the pushback is, well,
you know what, this is happening too early, too soon,
And just because there is a standard way of doing
something doesn't necessarily mean that you have to buy by
that particular standard.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Anything that we've learned about DM on Sanders has been
other than not being part of the ordinary.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Setting his own standard extraordinary two years by Shador Sanders
and Travis Hunter. You look at the number of yards
that Shardor actually put up, I think right now, as
far as overall career yards, he might be fourth on
that list, but in two years he's a mass almost
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the same amount of yards as the person who's number one.
So I think this is an opportunity for individuals to
take potshots at Dion Sanders and his son. And for
those who all see you, individuals hate love. It may
not like me, for saying this, But it's like cannibalism.
I mean, you're jumping on your own institution because they're.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Highlighting these two players.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And oh, by the way, I know I'm going on
a long tiret, but I think this, I think it
needs to be done. The program has been irrelevant for
years and it wasn't it too.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Rick Joyce decide, you know what, Mel Hunter didn't work,
Carderoon didn't work.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I got to do something different and he opted to
do this. And think about the recognition is brought to
the institution, think about the fact of the money is
brought to Boulder.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, that's why coach Prom's getting paid. Though that's not
that's why they got nil money. They got paid. Like
I'm gonna push back a little bit on that, Travis Hunter,
I'm all four retired as number if you want to
do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But looking around at Shouldore, you're right he led.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He's an all time Colorado touchdown passes leader by one.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
He does not have the yardage.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Totals, although in two years he did seventy three hundred
plus yards.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The leader would be.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Cephalifou, who did ninety seven hundred in highyards.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And how many years did it take for him to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Four It was fourteen hundred passing attempts versus nine hundred.
So basically, Shador, if he got another season, should be
able to top that. And that's I mean, you can
look at the per game averages. Shador average three oh
six three h seven per game, average two twenty seven
per game. But you know, there's there's two quarterbacks, there's
numbers aren't retired. I thought that meant more to Colorado
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and Eras where they were perhaps more successful.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Cordell Stewart's numbers not retired.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And whose fault is that? At the universities exactly? So
all the four numbers before there's there's four numbers that
are retired.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
For those that don't know Rashaan Salam, I say, everybody
knows at number nineteen, Bobby Anderson, number eleven. He was
another running back, Joe Romi who was an offensive guard
his number sixty seven, and then Byron Wizzard White, who
way back in the day was a quarterback and half
back from you know, back in the thirties. But he's
mostly in there because he went on to become so
successful after football. He was a Supreme Court justice and
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all that kind of stuff as well. So there's a
lot more to that than just that. But you got
guess a Klatt, Cordell Stewart, Who's who's who are not
in there?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Like we numbers are better than those guys.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But if his era's numbers are better, you can look
at it the way that you want to. And it's
almost like the Hall of Fame and a ring of fame.
What is the criteria? But for me, where the rubber
meets the row? If you were upset about this, to me,
you're barking up the wrong tree. There's another tree that
you need to bark up. But where was this when
the team was irrelevant during Cardi time?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Where was it?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And that could be some CEU alumna maybe maybe scream
and say, well we tried to make noise, you know
what you probably did, but no one heard it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Mel Tucker unretired some of those four numbers. Uh, they
had to get called. Row re retired him.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
As far as that kind of stuff goes, I like,
I don't. For me, I look at this and it's
one of those things where I'm like, what are we
doing retiring college numbers? Anyway, because you already have a
limited number a huge roster, and you're gonna be doubling
up on people, you know, anyway, you don't want to
retire too many numbers because then you're you're, you know,
you're out of luck trying to try to put guys
in jerseys as.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Far as your door goes.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, he played what twenty four games here, I
think all total, they didn't make the playoffs, They got
one Bowl game and lost. I mean there's some's some
statistical accomplishment there that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But I'm like, is that the criterion?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What are we using? It is the criterion?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right? So I'm here for the comra I'm here for
the back and forth for anyone having receipts or having facts.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But understand if you're just going to.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Be upset for the sake of being upset because not
your time, not your area, not your dude, this dude,
to me, once again, you're aiming your frustration in the
wrong direction. In my opinion, is wrong targeting. I'll add
this because let's really talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What it's about.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Because there's not too many HBCU coaches who have jumped
from that rank to the Power five not that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Many there really isn't and that's a crime because there's
some guys out there. There were really really good coaches at
that level.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And when coach Pryan first came to see you, you
had Matt Ruin. Another coach is saying, wait a minute,
you skipped the line. How did you get to this point?
But Rick George needed to find a way to put
the jumper cables back on the CiU program. He did that,
and then the team hadn't been through bowl games and
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since what twenty twenty the Texas Bowl. They went to
a bowl they lost, but he did that. He was
part of that. So for me, I as a guy
that went to HBCU and I transferred into a Power
five I know, I know what this looks like, and
I know how people look down on you because you
came from HBCU. But the idea was that Chardoor, Prime
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and Travis were not going to do anything on power
five level like they did in the HBCU ranks.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And guess what they did that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, there was questions about that coming in statistically, certainly
Shad and uh And and Travis Hunday.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm not upset that shoulders numbers get retired.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It just made me open my eyes, like, wait a minute,
why wasn't Cordell's number retired?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I'm like, wait, okay, see who has four total numbers retired?
Salam I get White, I get you know, Bobby interested In.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And uh yeah, those are you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But like you know, Joe cladd or Cordell Stewart, you
know they're not They're not in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Those are guys during the glory years, you know, Okay,
you know who should have pushed that agenda? Then oh,
I don't know. And that's the thing, like I don't
know that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
My thing is is it's the same concept as being
upset if somebody gets in the Hall of Fame now
while somebody's still sitting on the outside, right, it was
their turn.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's just the argument that you that somebody's trying to
use here.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, we've seen players who have been sitting waiting for
their chance to go to Canton, and we've seen younger
guys who have recently retired leap fraud them.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So we've seen it happen.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But in this particular case right now, coach Prime is
a head coach. This is something that I don't know
who brainchild it was, but it's happening on his watch.
For me, looking at the fact that you're doing it
right before the spring game, I understand because it's all
about branding, how you uplift the school.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's the attention economy. That's what it is. Like, I
know why they're doing it. I'm not mad at why
they're doing it. That's the whole reason they hired Prime
in the first place, because if he wasn't successful. If
he was, I've were gonna be on Colorado, which was
a nascent program before he got there. To mean, mel
Talker and Durrell had driven that thing straight into the ground.
You'd had years of futility before that with guys like
Dan Hawkins Embury tried to come back and we had
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got bad there. The one bright spot you had and
all that was Mike McIntyre, I think, And then you
know that you fired him too quickly when the wheels
came off as he tried to reload after he built
the thing up and had to reload. It was I mean,
end of the day, Colorado has been a nascent program
in the two thousands, and there's more attention on it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
If there's more attention on Colorado, there's on almost anybody.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And just think about this as crazy and as simple
simplistics as this is. The announcement of these guys numbers
jerseys being retired has created a lot of dialogue, not
only here locally but nationally as well. So good publicity,
even bad publicity, is good publicity no matter how you
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look at it. It's elevating this but also it is
highlighting these two people and giving the city of Bulding
opportunity to weigh final goodbye to these two players that put.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Your program back on the map. And oh, by the way,
guess what's happening next week? It's the draft, So you
keep the conversation about two players what was supposed to
be drafted next week. That's the part that I don't
like though.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's just like, you know, this needs to be a
Colorado you know, the cu buffs on the program kind
of thing, and not about trying to shake up Shoudore's
draft status, you know, remind people that he's back out
there is it looks like he's probably gonna fall on
draft a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Then you've been covering this game for a while, and
you have the tired of insider, so you know inside
and out?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
How do we well, I know exactly what. Again, it's
back to that attention economy. I'm just saying I I'm
trying to divorce myself in that and be Benjamin all
Right on a personal level or on a fan level
and get you know, put that out of my mind
for a second.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm all.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You know, if you if you win the Heisman, yeah,
your numbers ship probably be retired in any school you're at.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Like you won the Heisman, you.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Were the most outstanding player in college football.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I have no qualms about that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The next my question is where do you draw the
line on that coach prime set a you know, head
set a standard down.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What happens if you two comes in and blows shut
Door's numbers out the water? What happens?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
What happens then you retired Juju's number two? Possibly, you know,
like possibly, like you know that, you know, it's one
of those things where.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, I don't know. At the end of the day,
you got you got the attention. The attention is on
the program, which is what they wanted.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Uh, And it continues to be on the program, which
is what.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They wanted, and you know that part of it I get.
I'm not in charge of it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'm not even a SEE alum, so I don't really
like I don't feel like I have a say in this.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But you just what do you have to be alumni
to have a say?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I feel like you should not necessarily, but I feel
like if you're if somebody's retiring to someone at Georgia Tech,
you should definitely have a say in that.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Man that will give to Nicholas about what I have
to say, aunt they joined.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You're at a lum for Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Play in the NFL has a lot of things that
should happen in our society that really doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And that's not the way that people really think about it.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Right now, Up and Boulder, Rick, George and Prime's got
the juice if you upset with it, become a head,
coach yourself, and do something that's on traditional.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think that's the biggest.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Thing, because the idea is that even when it comes
to the Ring of Fame or the Hall of Fame,
there's patience, there's time. There's got to be five years
before a guy goes into the Hall of Fame. In
this particular case with playing my different rules. Right, you
can pick and choose when you want to do something,
but if you're not in a position of power, well
then you're on the sideline just throwing rocks over the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's how are you doing? Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I'm trying to like, I don't it doesn't matter to me,
like my opinion, my opinion on that, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Matter to me whether they do it or not.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But it certainly has sparked a controversy with alumnus from CU.
You know that that feel like that maybe that wasn't
the right thing to do. So it's and that's why
it's become such a topic conversation. But I believe that
I believe that Alump should have input on that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Just like I said with you, aren't you You're like the
most famous defense about the co Georgia Tech. So you know,
it's just like he's like you and what Morgan Burnett
and Dwan Lavery like you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Guys doings on their head full of us.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So I'm just saying, I mean, like I'm trying to
go back and then we go back away for that one.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Think like you, like defensive you know, you're the most
prestigious defensive back.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You come with Georgia Tech like they should. You should
have a saying yea.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But you know how this worked. It's just like bow
Knicks talking to Sean Payton. Sean Payton listened to a
certain degree, But that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to
do exactly what bow Knicks wants him to do. From
a personnel standpoint, Hey, yeah, tell me about this guy,
you know, uh Tas Johnson from Oregon. Yeah, okay, cool,
But that doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to do
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what he wants to do. He's gonna do what he
wants to do, and he feels as though the most
important thing for him and the organization and the players,
and that's all Prime is doing. So if some of
the alumni players they not they're not going to like
what I'm saying. And the reason they're not gonna like
it because they know it's true. Go ahead and go
and bark at some one else, because this is not
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Coach Prim's problem. He's dealing with it. But go bark
up the tree of someone else. Well, I go and
put that on someone else's doors stand.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
At the end of the day, it doesn't even matter Borrow,
that barket is going to change anything. So what are
we doing barking about? You give us anything to this point. Yeah,
that's that's the thing. The other day we come back,
we go do our big board for corners, Me and
Nick going big back for corners. You get a chance
to get into your your the secondary.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Nick Ferguson likes the upcoming NFL draft is Broncos country night.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You're on kare today.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Benjamin Olbrian, Nick Ferguson, drant Smith here with your five
six six nine zero is the text line, got a
few texts in here seven two zho probably only hurting
Schador's draft stock with this night, said, oh, can you
rante the positions in order what you believe the Broncos
be looking for in the draft from most desired at
least desire.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We'll get to that next week. That'll be next week. Thing.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Uh, several people really enjoyed the Jurgen's body lootion h.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Endorsement, So you're welcome for that. Without for them to do.
Let's get to the big boar.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
No time, boy, every time big time.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Goes on, I just want to let it, let it breathe. Man, Great,
we're doing the big board. We've been doing it for
you guys. Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Nick's been doing his top eight. I've been doing ten.
So give you a little bit of a surprise. So I'll
get those first two out of the way. We're doing
corners today. Safeties will be up next so we can
get to the Nick Ferguson's wheelhouse. But we're doing corners today.
A number ten for me is Denzel Burke at Ohio State. Uh.
Somebody had a really good year last year and then
this year was just so up and down for him.
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He's one of those guys. I think that if you
can settle him down and get it back to what
he what he was the year before, you really might
have a stut on your hands. Somebody is going to
back door of the way into gett a great corner there,
you know, and and uh and go for there. But
just a rocky senior season, a guy who a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Thought was gonna be the top corner drafted.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And now you're.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Talking about you know, most people having them outside their
top ten. At number nine out of Florida State. Uh,
Azraad Thomas. Uh, that's who I had, scouser intrigues, big
frame guy you want to fill out a little bit.
But six foot two, Uh, he's got a little bit
of size to them. Out of Florida State. So those
are my my ten to nine nick with at further
do let's go to.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Your number eight. My number eight is Darien Porter out
of Iowa State.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Uh. Six foot I mean six foot four to two
hundred pounds, a former track guy.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
He excels as far as using his hands and excellent feet.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That's one of the things that a kind of harp
on when you look at corners and evaluate them based
on watching Ps.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Two and practice, but more importantly watching a guy like
Champ Bailey work. When when I when I think about,
you know, Porter's height, I think jails skinner with better feet.
And the only side downside to Porter is that to me,
he's not a superior tackler. And you always hear a
term tossed around well willing tackler. No, no, no, I need
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to make sure I depend on you because once you
get to this love who and they find out you
can't tackle, guess what.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
They're coming after you.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They coming out, Hey, don't down the field.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
We've already heard the stories about guys who can't tackle
play a corner. I'm not going to point to any
high school hihowaar low lights, but all twelve personnel.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But but you know what, that's an area that maybe
he gets with their right coach, they find tu in
his tackle, he becomes better.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But I love his side one hundred percent with you on.
This was my number eight as well. You know he's
got he's a roll ball clake. I really raw, probably
destined for a cover three system that loves that length.
But that's a guy who you're just gonna have to
find somebody who's got got success coaching guys up because
he just doesn't have a ton of experience. But I
love him there, love the size, love the potential. So
the Porter was also my number eight. Who you got
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number seven, Well, let.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Me turn that back on.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So my number seven is Maxwell Harriston out of the
University of Kentucky. And this is not like he's so
far down on the list, because once again I look
at him as maybe a day two guy. I mean
he ran well six' to, one one hundred and eighty six,
Pounds so depending on how you like your, corners you
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may feel as though that's on more the thin.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Side but he runs.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well now my only issue is press coverage because when
you get to the, league you're gonna have to run
press coverage depending on what system that you. Ran because
the ideas can you lock down a particular area of
the field and give the defensive unit opportunity to get.
Home if he can improve that, way he can go
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from a day to gym to a start in the.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
League i'm a little bit higher on him than.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You my number seven is Is Revel Schevan revel Of
Eastern carolina six three boundary. Corner he's coming back off
the acl uh that he suffered last. Year he was
a juco guy who played really. Well runs you, know
runs runs well and all that kind of. Stuff the
injury history is gonna gonna hurt him a little, bit
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uh and he probably if he had been, healthy probably
would go a lot. Higher BUT i Have revel there
at at number, seven and THEN i Had. Harriston i'll
just give you the thing on that at, six so
you can go with your.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Six, okay, well so at my, Six Trey amos From,
okay Well i'm way higher on him to. DO i was, like,
wow all, right well, listen, Okay so it MAY i
might be too hard on guys.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That sometimes because once AGAIN i always go back with
my what does my eyes tell?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Me? RIGHT i Mean i've been around two guys In
champ Dre blytt and also Throw ps two just watching him,
practice SO i guess my eyes have a high. Standard
and maybe he's not fair to some of these. Guys
BUT i will say For, AMOS i mean he's not
a day one, guy probably a day day two. Guy
but when you look at a guy that checks all
the boxes and you need guy who can play both
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outside and, inside he can.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Definitely do that for.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You i'll get to my thoughts on him in just a.
Minute who do you have at number? FIVE i got
revel at? THAT i, okay all, right how does he
have As, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So SO i.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
DO i mean you kind of run down things On,
reveil and for, me it goes back to watching a guy,
play because usual when we get to the, combine guys
run fast, forties but you don't always see them play
with that same level of.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Speed So i'm interested to see where.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You Know Revel goes and how his level of, production
BUT i can tell you, this he would make a
hell of a gun or a special teams player for.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You, yeah that is the.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Thing he did play a lot of specialty as, well
got that kind of versatility as well as being kind
of about her. Corner my number five Is Benjamin morrison
out of out Of Notre. Dame he comes from a
highly athletic. Family he didn't know all of his siblings
played some sort OF d one. Sport he, is uh
BUT i think second all time in uh in interceptions
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there for a season IF i IF i remember. Correctly
he is ballhawk. Corner he's got really good speed. Too you,
know obviously comes from a family of, athletes but, uh
he's got really good, speed ball hawking type. Corner love
what he brings. OUT i would love for him to
be at Dever. Bronco not exactly sure that you know
that they're going to be in the market for, that
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but he's a guy who's got genuine top tier corner.
POTENTIAL i do believe he's probably gonna go in the
top forty five picks or, so and so it'll be,
uh it'll be good to see, uh to see what
he can. Do but, man he's he's somebody that really intrigues.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Me.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Uh AND i Know Ryan harris.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Will be watching out as a as A Notre, dame
we'll be watching for for Mister.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Morrison, WELL i Have morris at number four.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
On my list because once, again if you're playing, CORNER i,
mean it's your ball.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Skills how are your ball? Skills and you.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Know Watching morrison At Notre, dame it just seems as
though he was always around the, ball always making an
impact on the.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Ball and if you're going to be A dB supecisally
play the corner.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Position the first thing that always jumps out about your,
feet what your feet foot frequency is like and short
area of.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Quickness so to.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Me that's another guy that if you need to to
just kind to get him on the field early and
you want to stick it. INSIDE i, mean he's a
guy that you can stick. Inside and that's not the
place that you can stick every single, guy because some
guys only can play left or right corner and only corner.
Period but saying as though you have the versatility to go,
inside that says that you, understand you know run game
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and also you are a willing to willing and capable.
Tackle let me let me phrase it that. Way, well
that's the REASON.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I Love thember four on here and a Guy i'm
higher on than, you and That's. AMOS i love two
things about. Him, One, uh he is a good tackler.
Too he's a press man guy. Already and and to,
me that's one of the things when you're watching corners
come out of. College to, me one of the things
that it feels like a lot of guys struggle with
or at least take a little bit more. Time he's playing.
Pressman uh in the in the pro. Game you, know
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you used to dominating at the collegiate level against guys
that maybe aren't Quite now everybody's good at the pro,
level and you've really got to have technique down if
you're going to play press man at the pro. Game
AND i love the Way tradems does. THAT i Think
treyavis is a guy who could sneak in the first.
Round he probably is his home in the first ten
picks of the second, round but is the guy that
probably could sneak into the first round in a league
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that is sorely lacking corner.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Talent you, know.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Everybody all the good corners out, there if they can,
catch they go play. Receiver, Right so that's the only
adage you're A but you know that's that's the. Thing
he's got great ball. Skills he could white Press man to,
me and he's a guy who can tackle. WELL i Love.
TREYS i am a very big fan of his AND
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i would absolutely love it if The broncos brought he me.
IN i know we Got Ridy moss over, there but you,
Know i'd love it if they brought him in and
created a competition.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There there's nothing wrong with adding more talent to a
room to kind of build out that competition because it adds.
Depth and you saw last year with The, BRONCOS i
mean they faltered against The Buffalo. Bill's the more guys
you have in the, room the more guys you could
toss out. There so for my number three out Of
texas Is Dave. Baron, yeah page.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Here here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
About About barron is that most of the, time when
you look at college football and, corners you don't get
guys who play lack of. Safety and when you have
a guy WHICH i had the ability to play with
a champ baby who was like an extra safety just
with a corner type of skill.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
SET i, mean that's How barron.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Is when you start about breaking on balls and having
a guy that has that dog, mentality that's what you.
Want it's almost like you've seen the you, Know jared
Nesson geographic where you see like a cheetah taken down
someone much larger than the. Size WHEN i Watched barren
play this past, year that's the way THAT i look
at being physically at the line of scrimmage with wide.
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Receivers but just know that you have that safety. Mentality
we you stick your face in the.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Fan i'm glad you said that because you, KNOW i
was gonna use this comparison here AND i was gonna
see if it's surprised you you know.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Who he reminds me Of Kareem. Jackson okay a, minute
you gotta put that into, context because he's willing to.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Hit he's willing to get up there and make those
hits he doesn't. HAVE i, mean he's not quite the
athlete that you want as a, corner but he, is you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
KNOW i mean it didn't be, in but he could do.
Both he can gotta get the. Play he's a.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Guy who when you look at his, size you know
you think, corner but then you might later on his
career be a guy that moves back to safety can
play like that too high because he does have the
techniques in terms of tackling and and supporting in the run.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Game SO i figure you were gonna be really high on.
HIM i thought you were gonna have higher THAN i
ended up with him at. Three but he's a, guy
LIKE i, said reminds me Of kareem in a good.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Way AND i, would you, know looking at, HIM i
would not be surprised if he goes a lot higher
than people.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Think well for my number, two, Yes i'm not surprised
that anybody, here great tribe Will johnson out Of.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Michigan and when you look at the, guy when you're
looking at the player.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
At any, position you're looking at the teams.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That they play played, against how well they played against top.
Teams but it comes down to, consistency, right especially for.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Me so you, know when you look at his, SIZE
i mean that jumps out to.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
YOU i, mean didn't run a really fast, forty but
it's one of those things where maybe he didn't run
a great, time but when.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You watch him play.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Plays he plays at entirely different different, speed but also
physicality and. Tackling those types of things come in hand
because for, me being a formo second eary, coach you
don't want to you want to play with eleven. Guys
you don'tant to pay play with just ten guys to
know that you have guys who can go out there
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once again, tackle which means, turnovers other opportunities for the.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Offense but this is WHY i Like.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Johnson, yeah uh put return back in high. School got
got some of that ability as. Well the smack talk
in that family's got to be gotta be, uh gotta
be something else because his dad won Three Big ten
titles With michigan back in the. Day Dean johnson is.
Dead he with his dad won Three big ten titles
back in the, day but he got a national. Championship
so he's playing the rig while his dad's, like well
we got there three. TIMES i don't, know you, KNOW
i feel like the smack talk there has got to
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be got To i'm always fascinated by, bloodlines. GUYS i
was fascinated by Patzer tan When Sir dan was in. College,
yes and this is another guy a bloodline, guy and you,
know he has come up with a father who understood
the game at a at a at a technical, level
and that allows him to have a higher football like
you the most guys do at this point in their.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Career AND i think THAT i think that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Goes goes well with what it is he's these guys
get the technique. Down he's got the technician part of it,
down and that's going to Bode wells as he moves
to THE nfl and is able to sort of already
have the refined aspects of his game down a lot
better than some of his contemporaries coming in as.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Rookies well you.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Know also, too he is a huge part that some
rookies struggle with and an idea WHEN i first came
in this, league believe it or, not in play corner
is making sure you understand route concepts because when you do,
that it sets you up and puts you in a
position to make.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Plays because if teams know that you can only.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Play one style of, defense they're going to find a
way to isolate you and take advantage of that skill.
Set and when you look At, johnson he has a
high FOOTBALL iq and that may go back to his
dad playing In, michigan maybe talking to him about what
it was like to, play but also giving an opportunity
to talk to Other michigan you, know type of dbs
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Like Charles.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Woodson, Yeah i'm with you on. THAT i think we
both we both Like and then all with always you
have the same number one at corner here and that's,
uh the mutant, Himself Travis.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Hunter, ali he's a.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Freak he's a. Mutant he's the best player in college.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Football it's not just how Good travis he is the
corner he's got to put a little weight of if
he if that's gonna be the primary position, there that
that frames a little fin on the on that side
to be tackling the way that that he's gonna need.
To but, Dude, like the one thing THAT i get
so in awe of With Travis hunter is not just
like he's a phenomenal. Athlete it was the, conditioning the
ability to go out there and play both ways and
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not have a drop off.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
In the fourth.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Quarter, like this guy's got the adorance of A kenyan marathon. Er,
YEAH i mean watching him over the past two years
excel to the level that he has elevated to BECAUSE i.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Go back to watching him when he was At Jackson.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
STATE i, mean there was a lot of noise around
him when he first came out because he was a top.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Prospect but then.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
He went TO, abc, right And i'm sitting there, like
there's no way he replicates us at the at THE
p five.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
LEVEL i was a. DOUBTER i was an.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Idiot and it's, Okay, ben we can all admit that
we've Been we've all been.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
There people SAY i don't admit What i'm, wrong But
i'll be the first one to come OUT i was.
Wrong make sure you booked that.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Grant but, uh Watching travis excel and not just play both,
sides but do it at a very high level where
but litting the cough and he should have.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Won A Jim Thorpe award on top of The.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Heisman that's extraordinary level of athleticism but also football. Acumen
SO i don't know what Position travis is they're going
to allow him to play on the next. Level ALL i, know,
MAN i would love to see him do a mixture of,
both but predominantly be a maze stay at the corner,
position and that's the WAY i view it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Too there are teams out there that view him as
a wide receiver of The Cleveland browns on one and
they look at as a wide, Receiver but there are
teams that view him as a Corner Titans giants are
there are teams out there that view him as a
corner with with receiver packages that they can build off.
OF i think the thing For Travis, hunter if he
wants to go both ways at the you, know at
the pro, level is finding fighting whichever position it's.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Gonna be and then just and then just building it.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Out.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
YEAH i absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
That uh just building it, out you, know from there
and finding the threshold of what he can, handle find
out where the point is is that he can. Handle
can he handle a full offensive playbook as well as
uh as the defensive stuck because that's a.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Lot it's not it's not just the physical. Toll it's
the mental reps as you're going to the meetings all.
Week well it, is but it goes back to the
team that drafts him to, Say, okay, well how do
we maximize this guy's talent because it would be a
waste to not have a certain amount of offensive plays for,
him and you could just water down the playbook and
say give him four or five plays if they go
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out there and execute this until you learn.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
More of the, offense WHICH i think is what they should.
Do Broncos Country, Tonight. Primasis we come back right here.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
On can't. Wait
I'm Grassmith here with you, Coach Prime, echoing what a
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lot of people think. The reason we're having certain discussions
about certain things is because it's Shad or Sanders, his son,
and not somebody else.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think that applies across the board.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I think that applies to certain draft evaluations you see
out there. I think that applies to some of the
vitriol leveled at him for the number retirement thing. You know, Nick,
we've we've talked about this a little bit, but we
had a chance to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's, you know, the alumni.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
There's there's a lot of alumni out there that are
not happy with the retirement of his number, a surprising amount.
It seems like that what I would call the new fans,
the Coach Prime fans that have come to you know,
Colorado fans since Coach Prize has been here. The younger kids,
they're all for it, they love it. But to me,
it feels like the old school guys are a little
bit more against the retirement of the number, not necessarily Travis,
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but of Shador.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do you the first of all college football should numbers
be retired to begin with? Second of all, where do
you come down.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
On all this, Well, let me ask it that your
last question first, As far as should numbers be retired,
I think that's left up to.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Certain institutions, because I did.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
If you retire so many numbers, you're not going to
have a bunch of numbers to kind of fill out
a roster. And there's a difference between having a number.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Retired in the jersey retire I've.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Seen places where there are player's jersey was retire, that
particular color scheme, the way that it was decked out,
that particular.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Jersey was no longer going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Present, and the team is going to wear them, right,
But when it comes to numbers, listen, if you think
of player has done a certain thing and he's deservant
of that, then fine, I totally get it. But you
can't retire the numbers of every single individual. Now, to
address the pink elephant in the room and some of
the CEO alumni who seemed to be beside themselves that
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such a thing should even actually occur, I would say,
I'll tell them, and I've said this on social media. See,
your level of frustration is aim in the direction of
the wrong person. It is not the fault of Travis
Orstrador or coach Prime, because there were many other coaches
that came before Coach Prime who could have answered this,
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who could have stood on the table for this to happen.
Even for those alumni who have stood on the table,
either for themselves or someone else, don't take that up
with Coach Prime, and don't take it out on Shador Sanders.
And as though I said to some individuals on social
media and some individual probably via text messages, if you
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have a problem, you go up to see You drive
up there, get a meeting with someone else in the
athletic department and have that discussion.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Because this is not a prime issue.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And for those individuals struggling with trying to understand why
this is occurring. To me, you look at Travis history
in the past two years here.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
With the CU buffs, very history.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You look at Shador, I would say historic as well.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Did he win the Heisman?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Was he in the running? Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Did he get the Johnny and Ninas Award for the
top quarterback in college football?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes he did.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So if anyone wants receipts, I'd say to you.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Go on see you Buff's website.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Hell, google it and you'll see Shardor Sanders name up there.
When it comes to single game touchdowns, multiple games as
far as multiple touchdowns in one particular game. In some categories,
he's on the list more than once.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this is a byproduct.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Of individuals not really liking the coach prime effect. And
I'm gonna call it that because the pushback is, well,
you know what, this is happening too early, too soon,
And just because there is a standard way of doing
something doesn't necessarily mean that you have to buy by
that particular standard.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Anything that we've learned about DM on Sanders has been
other than not being part of the ordinary.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Setting his own standard extraordinary two years by Shador Sanders
and Travis Hunter. You look at the number of yards
that Shardor actually put up, I think right now, as
far as overall career yards, he might be fourth on
that list, but in two years he's a mass almost
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the same amount of yards as the person who's number one.
So I think this is an opportunity for individuals to
take potshots at Dion Sanders and his son. And for
those who all see you, individuals hate love. It may
not like me, for saying this, But it's like cannibalism.
I mean, you're jumping on your own institution because they're.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Highlighting these two players.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And oh, by the way, I know I'm going on
a long tiret, but I think this, I think it
needs to be done. The program has been irrelevant for
years and it wasn't it too.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Rick Joyce decide, you know what, Mel Hunter didn't work,
Carderoon didn't work.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I got to do something different and he opted to
do this. And think about the recognition is brought to
the institution, think about the fact of the money is
brought to Boulder.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, that's why coach Prom's getting paid. Though that's not
that's why they got nil money. They got paid. Like
I'm gonna push back a little bit on that, Travis Hunter,
I'm all four retired as number if you want to
do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But looking around at Shouldore, you're right he led.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He's an all time Colorado touchdown passes leader by one.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
He does not have the yardage.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Totals, although in two years he did seventy three hundred
plus yards.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The leader would be.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Cephalifou, who did ninety seven hundred in highyards.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And how many years did it take for him to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Four It was fourteen hundred passing attempts versus nine hundred.
So basically, Shador, if he got another season, should be
able to top that. And that's I mean, you can
look at the per game averages. Shador average three oh
six three h seven per game, average two twenty seven
per game. But you know, there's there's two quarterbacks, there's
numbers aren't retired. I thought that meant more to Colorado
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and Eras where they were perhaps more successful.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Cordell Stewart's numbers not retired.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And whose fault is that? At the universities exactly? So
all the four numbers before there's there's four numbers that
are retired.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
For those that don't know Rashaan Salam, I say, everybody
knows at number nineteen, Bobby Anderson, number eleven. He was
another running back, Joe Romi who was an offensive guard
his number sixty seven, and then Byron Wizzard White, who
way back in the day was a quarterback and half
back from you know, back in the thirties. But he's
mostly in there because he went on to become so
successful after football. He was a Supreme Court justice and
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all that kind of stuff as well. So there's a
lot more to that than just that. But you got
guess a Klatt, Cordell Stewart, Who's who's who are not
in there?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Like we numbers are better than those guys.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But if his era's numbers are better, you can look
at it the way that you want to. And it's
almost like the Hall of Fame and a ring of fame.
What is the criteria? But for me, where the rubber
meets the row? If you were upset about this, to me,
you're barking up the wrong tree. There's another tree that
you need to bark up. But where was this when
the team was irrelevant during Cardi time?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Where was it?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And that could be some CEU alumna maybe maybe scream
and say, well we tried to make noise, you know
what you probably did, but no one heard it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Mel Tucker unretired some of those four numbers. Uh, they
had to get called. Row re retired him.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
As far as that kind of stuff goes, I like,
I don't. For me, I look at this and it's
one of those things where I'm like, what are we
doing retiring college numbers? Anyway, because you already have a
limited number a huge roster, and you're gonna be doubling
up on people, you know, anyway, you don't want to
retire too many numbers because then you're you're, you know,
you're out of luck trying to try to put guys
in jerseys as.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Far as your door goes.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, he played what twenty four games here, I
think all total, they didn't make the playoffs, They got
one Bowl game and lost. I mean there's some's some
statistical accomplishment there that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But I'm like, is that the criterion?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What are we using? It is the criterion?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right? So I'm here for the comra I'm here for
the back and forth for anyone having receipts or having facts.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But understand if you're just going to.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Be upset for the sake of being upset because not
your time, not your area, not your dude, this dude,
to me, once again, you're aiming your frustration in the
wrong direction. In my opinion, is wrong targeting. I'll add
this because let's really talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What it's about.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Because there's not too many HBCU coaches who have jumped
from that rank to the Power five not that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Many there really isn't and that's a crime because there's
some guys out there. There were really really good coaches at
that level.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And when coach Pryan first came to see you, you
had Matt Ruin. Another coach is saying, wait a minute,
you skipped the line. How did you get to this point?
But Rick George needed to find a way to put
the jumper cables back on the CiU program. He did that,
and then the team hadn't been through bowl games and
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since what twenty twenty the Texas Bowl. They went to
a bowl they lost, but he did that. He was
part of that. So for me, I as a guy
that went to HBCU and I transferred into a Power
five I know, I know what this looks like, and
I know how people look down on you because you
came from HBCU. But the idea was that Chardoor, Prime
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and Travis were not going to do anything on power
five level like they did in the HBCU ranks.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And guess what they did that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, there was questions about that coming in statistically, certainly
Shad and uh And and Travis Hunday.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm not upset that shoulders numbers get retired.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It just made me open my eyes, like, wait a minute,
why wasn't Cordell's number retired?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I'm like, wait, okay, see who has four total numbers retired?
Salam I get White, I get you know, Bobby interested In.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And uh yeah, those are you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But like you know, Joe cladd or Cordell Stewart, you
know they're not They're not in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Those are guys during the glory years, you know, Okay,
you know who should have pushed that agenda? Then oh,
I don't know. And that's the thing, like I don't
know that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
My thing is is it's the same concept as being
upset if somebody gets in the Hall of Fame now
while somebody's still sitting on the outside, right, it was
their turn.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's just the argument that you that somebody's trying to
use here.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, we've seen players who have been sitting waiting for
their chance to go to Canton, and we've seen younger
guys who have recently retired leap fraud them.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So we've seen it happen.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But in this particular case right now, coach Prime is
a head coach. This is something that I don't know
who brainchild it was, but it's happening on his watch.
For me, looking at the fact that you're doing it
right before the spring game, I understand because it's all
about branding, how you uplift the school.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's the attention economy. That's what it is. Like, I
know why they're doing it. I'm not mad at why
they're doing it. That's the whole reason they hired Prime
in the first place, because if he wasn't successful. If
he was, I've were gonna be on Colorado, which was
a nascent program before he got there. To mean, mel
Talker and Durrell had driven that thing straight into the ground.
You'd had years of futility before that with guys like
Dan Hawkins Embury tried to come back and we had
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got bad there. The one bright spot you had and
all that was Mike McIntyre, I think, And then you
know that you fired him too quickly when the wheels
came off as he tried to reload after he built
the thing up and had to reload. It was I mean,
end of the day, Colorado has been a nascent program
in the two thousands, and there's more attention on it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
If there's more attention on Colorado, there's on almost anybody.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And just think about this as crazy and as simple
simplistics as this is. The announcement of these guys numbers
jerseys being retired has created a lot of dialogue, not
only here locally but nationally as well. So good publicity,
even bad publicity, is good publicity no matter how you
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look at it. It's elevating this but also it is
highlighting these two people and giving the city of Bulding
opportunity to weigh final goodbye to these two players that put.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Your program back on the map. And oh, by the way,
guess what's happening next week? It's the draft, So you
keep the conversation about two players what was supposed to
be drafted next week. That's the part that I don't
like though.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's just like, you know, this needs to be a
Colorado you know, the cu buffs on the program kind
of thing, and not about trying to shake up Shoudore's
draft status, you know, remind people that he's back out
there is it looks like he's probably gonna fall on
draft a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Then you've been covering this game for a while, and
you have the tired of insider, so you know inside
and out?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
How do we well, I know exactly what. Again, it's
back to that attention economy. I'm just saying I I'm
trying to divorce myself in that and be Benjamin all
Right on a personal level or on a fan level
and get you know, put that out of my mind
for a second.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm all.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You know, if you if you win the Heisman, yeah,
your numbers ship probably be retired in any school you're at.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Like you won the Heisman, you.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Were the most outstanding player in college football.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I have no qualms about that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The next my question is where do you draw the
line on that coach prime set a you know, head
set a standard down.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What happens if you two comes in and blows shut
Door's numbers out the water? What happens?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
What happens then you retired Juju's number two? Possibly, you know,
like possibly, like you know that, you know, it's one
of those things where.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, I don't know. At the end of the day,
you got you got the attention. The attention is on
the program, which is what they wanted.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Uh, And it continues to be on the program, which
is what.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They wanted, and you know that part of it I get.
I'm not in charge of it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'm not even a SEE alum, so I don't really
like I don't feel like I have a say in this.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But you just what do you have to be alumni
to have a say?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I feel like you should not necessarily, but I feel
like if you're if somebody's retiring to someone at Georgia Tech,
you should definitely have a say in that.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Man that will give to Nicholas about what I have
to say, aunt they joined.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You're at a lum for Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Play in the NFL has a lot of things that
should happen in our society that really doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And that's not the way that people really think about it.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Right now, Up and Boulder, Rick, George and Prime's got
the juice if you upset with it, become a head,
coach yourself, and do something that's on traditional.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think that's the biggest.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Thing, because the idea is that even when it comes
to the Ring of Fame or the Hall of Fame,
there's patience, there's time. There's got to be five years
before a guy goes into the Hall of Fame. In
this particular case with playing my different rules. Right, you
can pick and choose when you want to do something,
but if you're not in a position of power, well
then you're on the sideline just throwing rocks over the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's how are you doing? Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I'm trying to like, I don't it doesn't matter to me,
like my opinion, my opinion on that, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Matter to me whether they do it or not.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But it certainly has sparked a controversy with alumnus from CU.
You know that that feel like that maybe that wasn't
the right thing to do. So it's and that's why
it's become such a topic conversation. But I believe that
I believe that Alump should have input on that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Just like I said with you, aren't you You're like the
most famous defense about the co Georgia Tech. So you know,
it's just like he's like you and what Morgan Burnett
and Dwan Lavery like you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Guys doings on their head full of us.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So I'm just saying, I mean, like I'm trying to
go back and then we go back away for that one.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Think like you, like defensive you know, you're the most
prestigious defensive back.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You come with Georgia Tech like they should. You should
have a saying yea.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But you know how this worked. It's just like bow
Knicks talking to Sean Payton. Sean Payton listened to a
certain degree, But that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to
do exactly what bow Knicks wants him to do. From
a personnel standpoint, Hey, yeah, tell me about this guy,
you know, uh Tas Johnson from Oregon. Yeah, okay, cool,
But that doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to do
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what he wants to do. He's gonna do what he
wants to do, and he feels as though the most
important thing for him and the organization and the players,
and that's all Prime is doing. So if some of
the alumni players they not they're not going to like
what I'm saying. And the reason they're not gonna like
it because they know it's true. Go ahead and go
and bark at some one else, because this is not
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Coach Prim's problem. He's dealing with it. But go bark
up the tree of someone else. Well, I go and
put that on someone else's doors stand.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
At the end of the day, it doesn't even matter Borrow,
that barket is going to change anything. So what are
we doing barking about? You give us anything to this point. Yeah,
that's that's the thing. The other day we come back,
we go do our big board for corners, Me and
Nick going big back for corners. You get a chance
to get into your your the secondary.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Nick Ferguson likes the upcoming NFL draft is Broncos country night.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You're on kare today.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Benjamin Olbrian, Nick Ferguson, drant Smith here with your five
six six nine zero is the text line, got a
few texts in here seven two zho probably only hurting
Schador's draft stock with this night, said, oh, can you
rante the positions in order what you believe the Broncos
be looking for in the draft from most desired at
least desire.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We'll get to that next week. That'll be next week. Thing.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Uh, several people really enjoyed the Jurgen's body lootion h.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Endorsement, So you're welcome for that. Without for them to do.
Let's get to the big boar.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
No time, boy, every time big time.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Goes on, I just want to let it, let it breathe. Man, Great,
we're doing the big board. We've been doing it for
you guys. Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Nick's been doing his top eight. I've been doing ten.
So give you a little bit of a surprise. So I'll
get those first two out of the way. We're doing
corners today. Safeties will be up next so we can
get to the Nick Ferguson's wheelhouse. But we're doing corners today.
A number ten for me is Denzel Burke at Ohio State. Uh.
Somebody had a really good year last year and then
this year was just so up and down for him.
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He's one of those guys. I think that if you
can settle him down and get it back to what
he what he was the year before, you really might
have a stut on your hands. Somebody is going to
back door of the way into gett a great corner there,
you know, and and uh and go for there. But
just a rocky senior season, a guy who a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Thought was gonna be the top corner drafted.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And now you're.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Talking about you know, most people having them outside their
top ten. At number nine out of Florida State. Uh,
Azraad Thomas. Uh, that's who I had, scouser intrigues, big
frame guy you want to fill out a little bit.
But six foot two, Uh, he's got a little bit
of size to them. Out of Florida State. So those
are my my ten to nine nick with at further
do let's go to.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Your number eight. My number eight is Darien Porter out
of Iowa State.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Uh. Six foot I mean six foot four to two
hundred pounds, a former track guy.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
He excels as far as using his hands and excellent feet.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That's one of the things that a kind of harp
on when you look at corners and evaluate them based
on watching Ps.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Two and practice, but more importantly watching a guy like
Champ Bailey work. When when I when I think about,
you know, Porter's height, I think jails skinner with better feet.
And the only side downside to Porter is that to me,
he's not a superior tackler. And you always hear a
term tossed around well willing tackler. No, no, no, I need
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to make sure I depend on you because once you
get to this love who and they find out you
can't tackle, guess what.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
They're coming after you.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They coming out, Hey, don't down the field.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
We've already heard the stories about guys who can't tackle
play a corner. I'm not going to point to any
high school hihowaar low lights, but all twelve personnel.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But but you know what, that's an area that maybe
he gets with their right coach, they find tu in
his tackle, he becomes better.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But I love his side one hundred percent with you on.
This was my number eight as well. You know he's
got he's a roll ball clake. I really raw, probably
destined for a cover three system that loves that length.
But that's a guy who you're just gonna have to
find somebody who's got got success coaching guys up because
he just doesn't have a ton of experience. But I
love him there, love the size, love the potential. So
the Porter was also my number eight. Who you got
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number seven, Well, let.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Me turn that back on.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So my number seven is Maxwell Harriston out of the
University of Kentucky. And this is not like he's so
far down on the list, because once again I look
at him as maybe a day two guy. I mean
he ran well six' to, one one hundred and eighty six,
Pounds so depending on how you like your, corners you
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may feel as though that's on more the thin.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Side but he runs.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well now my only issue is press coverage because when
you get to the, league you're gonna have to run
press coverage depending on what system that you. Ran because
the ideas can you lock down a particular area of
the field and give the defensive unit opportunity to get.
Home if he can improve that, way he can go
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from a day to gym to a start in the.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
League i'm a little bit higher on him than.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You my number seven is Is Revel Schevan revel Of
Eastern carolina six three boundary. Corner he's coming back off
the acl uh that he suffered last. Year he was
a juco guy who played really. Well runs you, know
runs runs well and all that kind of. Stuff the
injury history is gonna gonna hurt him a little, bit
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uh and he probably if he had been, healthy probably
would go a lot. Higher BUT i Have revel there
at at number, seven and THEN i Had. Harriston i'll
just give you the thing on that at, six so
you can go with your.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Six, okay, well so at my, Six Trey amos From,
okay Well i'm way higher on him to. DO i was, like,
wow all, right well, listen, Okay so it MAY i
might be too hard on guys.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That sometimes because once AGAIN i always go back with
my what does my eyes tell?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Me? RIGHT i Mean i've been around two guys In
champ Dre blytt and also Throw ps two just watching him,
practice SO i guess my eyes have a high. Standard
and maybe he's not fair to some of these. Guys
BUT i will say For, AMOS i mean he's not
a day one, guy probably a day day two. Guy
but when you look at a guy that checks all
the boxes and you need guy who can play both
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outside and, inside he can.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Definitely do that for.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You i'll get to my thoughts on him in just a.
Minute who do you have at number? FIVE i got
revel at? THAT i, okay all, right how does he
have As, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So SO i.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
DO i mean you kind of run down things On,
reveil and for, me it goes back to watching a guy,
play because usual when we get to the, combine guys
run fast, forties but you don't always see them play
with that same level of.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Speed So i'm interested to see where.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You Know Revel goes and how his level of, production
BUT i can tell you, this he would make a
hell of a gun or a special teams player for.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You, yeah that is the.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Thing he did play a lot of specialty as, well
got that kind of versatility as well as being kind
of about her. Corner my number five Is Benjamin morrison
out of out Of Notre. Dame he comes from a
highly athletic. Family he didn't know all of his siblings
played some sort OF d one. Sport he, is uh
BUT i think second all time in uh in interceptions
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there for a season IF i IF i remember. Correctly
he is ballhawk. Corner he's got really good speed. Too you,
know obviously comes from a family of, athletes but, uh
he's got really good, speed ball hawking type. Corner love
what he brings. OUT i would love for him to
be at Dever. Bronco not exactly sure that you know
that they're going to be in the market for, that
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but he's a guy who's got genuine top tier corner.
POTENTIAL i do believe he's probably gonna go in the
top forty five picks or, so and so it'll be,
uh it'll be good to see, uh to see what
he can. Do but, man he's he's somebody that really intrigues.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Me.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Uh AND i Know Ryan harris.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Will be watching out as a as A Notre, dame
we'll be watching for for Mister.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Morrison, WELL i Have morris at number four.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
On my list because once, again if you're playing, CORNER i,
mean it's your ball.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Skills how are your ball? Skills and you.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Know Watching morrison At Notre, dame it just seems as
though he was always around the, ball always making an
impact on the.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Ball and if you're going to be A dB supecisally
play the corner.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Position the first thing that always jumps out about your,
feet what your feet foot frequency is like and short
area of.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Quickness so to.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Me that's another guy that if you need to to
just kind to get him on the field early and
you want to stick it. INSIDE i, mean he's a
guy that you can stick. Inside and that's not the
place that you can stick every single, guy because some
guys only can play left or right corner and only corner.
Period but saying as though you have the versatility to go,
inside that says that you, understand you know run game
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and also you are a willing to willing and capable.
Tackle let me let me phrase it that. Way, well
that's the REASON.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I Love thember four on here and a Guy i'm
higher on than, you and That's. AMOS i love two
things about. Him, One, uh he is a good tackler.
Too he's a press man guy. Already and and to,
me that's one of the things when you're watching corners
come out of. College to, me one of the things
that it feels like a lot of guys struggle with
or at least take a little bit more. Time he's playing.
Pressman uh in the in the pro. Game you, know
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you used to dominating at the collegiate level against guys
that maybe aren't Quite now everybody's good at the pro,
level and you've really got to have technique down if
you're going to play press man at the pro. Game
AND i love the Way tradems does. THAT i Think
treyavis is a guy who could sneak in the first.
Round he probably is his home in the first ten
picks of the second, round but is the guy that
probably could sneak into the first round in a league
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that is sorely lacking corner.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Talent you, know.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Everybody all the good corners out, there if they can,
catch they go play. Receiver, Right so that's the only
adage you're A but you know that's that's the. Thing
he's got great ball. Skills he could white Press man to,
me and he's a guy who can tackle. WELL i Love.
TREYS i am a very big fan of his AND
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i would absolutely love it if The broncos brought he me.
IN i know we Got Ridy moss over, there but you,
Know i'd love it if they brought him in and
created a competition.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There there's nothing wrong with adding more talent to a
room to kind of build out that competition because it adds.
Depth and you saw last year with The, BRONCOS i
mean they faltered against The Buffalo. Bill's the more guys
you have in the, room the more guys you could
toss out. There so for my number three out Of
texas Is Dave. Baron, yeah page.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Here here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
About About barron is that most of the, time when
you look at college football and, corners you don't get
guys who play lack of. Safety and when you have
a guy WHICH i had the ability to play with
a champ baby who was like an extra safety just
with a corner type of skill.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
SET i, mean that's How barron.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Is when you start about breaking on balls and having
a guy that has that dog, mentality that's what you.
Want it's almost like you've seen the you, Know jared
Nesson geographic where you see like a cheetah taken down
someone much larger than the. Size WHEN i Watched barren
play this past, year that's the way THAT i look
at being physically at the line of scrimmage with wide.
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Receivers but just know that you have that safety. Mentality
we you stick your face in the.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Fan i'm glad you said that because you, KNOW i
was gonna use this comparison here AND i was gonna
see if it's surprised you you know.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Who he reminds me Of Kareem. Jackson okay a, minute
you gotta put that into, context because he's willing to.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Hit he's willing to get up there and make those
hits he doesn't. HAVE i, mean he's not quite the
athlete that you want as a, corner but he, is you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
KNOW i mean it didn't be, in but he could do.
Both he can gotta get the. Play he's a.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Guy who when you look at his, size you know
you think, corner but then you might later on his
career be a guy that moves back to safety can
play like that too high because he does have the
techniques in terms of tackling and and supporting in the run.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Game SO i figure you were gonna be really high on.
HIM i thought you were gonna have higher THAN i
ended up with him at. Three but he's a, guy
LIKE i, said reminds me Of kareem in a good.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Way AND i, would you, know looking at, HIM i
would not be surprised if he goes a lot higher
than people.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Think well for my number, two, Yes i'm not surprised
that anybody, here great tribe Will johnson out Of.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Michigan and when you look at the, guy when you're
looking at the player.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
At any, position you're looking at the teams.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That they play played, against how well they played against top.
Teams but it comes down to, consistency, right especially for.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Me so you, know when you look at his, SIZE
i mean that jumps out to.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
YOU i, mean didn't run a really fast, forty but
it's one of those things where maybe he didn't run
a great, time but when.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You watch him play.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Plays he plays at entirely different different, speed but also
physicality and. Tackling those types of things come in hand
because for, me being a formo second eary, coach you
don't want to you want to play with eleven. Guys
you don'tant to pay play with just ten guys to
know that you have guys who can go out there
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once again, tackle which means, turnovers other opportunities for the.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Offense but this is WHY i Like.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Johnson, yeah uh put return back in high. School got
got some of that ability as. Well the smack talk
in that family's got to be gotta be, uh gotta
be something else because his dad won Three Big ten
titles With michigan back in the. Day Dean johnson is.
Dead he with his dad won Three big ten titles
back in the, day but he got a national. Championship
so he's playing the rig while his dad's, like well
we got there three. TIMES i don't, know you, KNOW
i feel like the smack talk there has got to
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be got To i'm always fascinated by, bloodlines. GUYS i
was fascinated by Patzer tan When Sir dan was in. College,
yes and this is another guy a bloodline, guy and you,
know he has come up with a father who understood
the game at a at a at a technical, level
and that allows him to have a higher football like
you the most guys do at this point in their.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Career AND i think THAT i think that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Goes goes well with what it is he's these guys
get the technique. Down he's got the technician part of it,
down and that's going to Bode wells as he moves
to THE nfl and is able to sort of already
have the refined aspects of his game down a lot
better than some of his contemporaries coming in as.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Rookies well you.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Know also, too he is a huge part that some
rookies struggle with and an idea WHEN i first came
in this, league believe it or, not in play corner
is making sure you understand route concepts because when you do,
that it sets you up and puts you in a
position to make.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Plays because if teams know that you can only.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Play one style of, defense they're going to find a
way to isolate you and take advantage of that skill.
Set and when you look At, johnson he has a
high FOOTBALL iq and that may go back to his
dad playing In, michigan maybe talking to him about what
it was like to, play but also giving an opportunity
to talk to Other michigan you, know type of dbs
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Like Charles.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Woodson, Yeah i'm with you on. THAT i think we
both we both Like and then all with always you
have the same number one at corner here and that's,
uh the mutant, Himself Travis.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Hunter, ali he's a.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Freak he's a. Mutant he's the best player in college.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Football it's not just how Good travis he is the
corner he's got to put a little weight of if
he if that's gonna be the primary position, there that
that frames a little fin on the on that side
to be tackling the way that that he's gonna need.
To but, Dude, like the one thing THAT i get
so in awe of With Travis hunter is not just
like he's a phenomenal. Athlete it was the, conditioning the
ability to go out there and play both ways and
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not have a drop off.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
In the fourth.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Quarter, like this guy's got the adorance of A kenyan marathon. Er,
YEAH i mean watching him over the past two years
excel to the level that he has elevated to BECAUSE i.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Go back to watching him when he was At Jackson.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
STATE i, mean there was a lot of noise around
him when he first came out because he was a top.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Prospect but then.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
He went TO, abc, right And i'm sitting there, like
there's no way he replicates us at the at THE
p five.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
LEVEL i was a. DOUBTER i was an.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Idiot and it's, Okay, ben we can all admit that
we've Been we've all been.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
There people SAY i don't admit What i'm, wrong But
i'll be the first one to come OUT i was.
Wrong make sure you booked that.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Grant but, uh Watching travis excel and not just play both,
sides but do it at a very high level where
but litting the cough and he should have.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Won A Jim Thorpe award on top of The.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Heisman that's extraordinary level of athleticism but also football. Acumen
SO i don't know what Position travis is they're going
to allow him to play on the next. Level ALL i, know,
MAN i would love to see him do a mixture of,
both but predominantly be a maze stay at the corner,
position and that's the WAY i view it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Too there are teams out there that view him as
a wide receiver of The Cleveland browns on one and
they look at as a wide, Receiver but there are
teams that view him as a Corner Titans giants are
there are teams out there that view him as a
corner with with receiver packages that they can build off.
OF i think the thing For Travis, hunter if he
wants to go both ways at the you, know at
the pro, level is finding fighting whichever position it's.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Gonna be and then just and then just building it.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Out.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
YEAH i absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
That uh just building it, out you, know from there
and finding the threshold of what he can, handle find
out where the point is is that he can. Handle
can he handle a full offensive playbook as well as
uh as the defensive stuck because that's a.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Lot it's not it's not just the physical. Toll it's
the mental reps as you're going to the meetings all.
Week well it, is but it goes back to the
team that drafts him to, Say, okay, well how do
we maximize this guy's talent because it would be a
waste to not have a certain amount of offensive plays for,
him and you could just water down the playbook and
say give him four or five plays if they go
(33:42):
out there and execute this until you learn.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
More of the, offense WHICH i think is what they should.
Do Broncos Country, Tonight. Primasis we come back right here.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
On can't. Wait
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