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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Benjamin all Bright, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you
five six six nine zero is the text line, you
guys want to get involved in the conversation pic show tonight.
Rick lewis going to join A six thirty Ryan and
Michael seven oh five. Guys, I got to ask you
the question that is burning everyone's mind right now here
in Denver. One gorilla or one hundred men?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Stop? Stop it? Stop it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Why are people like debating? Why this is like a thing?
Where did this come from? I don't know. Some idiot
posted clickbait on social media has taken off. It's like everywhere.
I've seen it on every sports talk show.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We talked about it yesterday on KOA Sports, and I'm like,
what is happening?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Ryan brought it up when we were at Sam's doing
a sports suit and I was like, what the hell
is this? I mean, one man versus a gorilla? Why
are we doing this? I mean, just like you who
thought this would be a great idea, but whomever it is.
As crazy as it sounds, it's got everyone talking to me.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
There are people who are.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
On YouTube actually breaking this down and talking about having
individual humans in waves based on body type, to kind
of wear down the gorilla. And for me, I told Ryan,
I was like, look, if you want to put it
to test, let's go down to the Denver Zoo.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Just walk in there and just I'll do some research
and let him.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Let him actually be the first one to test the
theory out.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Like, I on one hundred percent believe one hundred people
are going to beat that gorilla. But I wu one
hundred percent believe all the people that think that they
are going to be in that one hundred people should
not be. You got one hundred Era Donald's out there
are adamicasus. They're gonna whip that thing. They are like,
there's abuch sheer volume.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Then well we're kind of lose, Like we're gonna lose
like like seven.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Or eight of them.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I don't want I don't really gonna have this conversation, but.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Jeez, you square up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I mean, you're talking about a dominicanco talking about h
other players, and I'm thinking, like, have you ever seen
a simple back?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
I mean, they don't lift any weights, their tracks, their
shoulders are ridiculous, Right, how can I get on that
extra ship plan? Hey?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Look, man, my father used to tell me when I
used to tell him, man, you need to lift weights.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He said, you ever seen a gorilla lyft weights?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I was like no, and he said, well all they
eat was tree bark and trees.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I say, look, you can do a gorilla can do that?
Not yet the next time your dad's eat the steak
or take the steak. Here's some bamboo.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I mean, you know what, See, here's when I draw
the line on this whole thing, because someone is going
to you know how people are.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
People do stupid stuff, yes, and someone someone's gonna test
like an idiot and get thrashed.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I mean we've seen in stupid people climb inside the
Tiger exhibit and that, like Chris Rock said that Tiger
went Tiger where everyone's blaming its tiger.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
He's the ason one.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Don't put your body in the enclosure.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, justice for her. Rumbe. Hey what's next?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Alr p?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yes, what's what's the next thing? That stupid things? Someone's
gonna come up?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Oh, I don't know. They always come up with dumb,
dumb stuff like that. I just like and then I
posted I can't say what's on that shirt, but I
posted a picture on that was pretty funny instagram of
somebody who thought that they were wearing a T shirt
they had made up referencing that, and it went a
whole different direction. You guys can look at my Instagram
(03:41):
stories and figure that not Mellman Street, not a well
structured simence.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, get grammar is.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Important, really important? What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I'll just say grammer has never had a bigger l
than it did on that shirt.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's all up, sading well sell you who was a
gorilla last night? That was Jamal Murray.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know what, here's the interesting thing about Jamal. We
don't always get this type of Jamal.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
We always hear about playoff Jimmy, Jimmy Butler plays for
now plays for the Golden State Warriors, and then it's
playoff Jamal. But we don't always see these individuals all
the time. And you know that Jamal is capable of
taking games over like this, But for me, this is
this is kind of why Jamal is not.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Really seen as an all star.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Now we can say he has an all star ability,
but he's not really seen as an All star because
he can't consistently put those games back to back together.
And Nikola jokish Man, as great as he was. I mean,
he was just kind of like the Maestro getting everyone involved.
His point total wasn't what we're used to seeing, right,
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but that's not devaluing him. It was more or less
I need you guys to help me, so I'm gonna
get you two more involved in. Jamal was in his bag, man,
He was in his bag last night.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He was and not afraid to take the shots either
seventeen or twenty six in the field, eight to fourteen
from downtown. Forty three points for Jamal Murray and only
one of those points came on a free throw one.
You mean to tell me that in twenty six shot
attempts he got fouled once?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, totally on is Jamal was playing on the perimeter
the entire game. Yeah, there were a couple of plays
that he drove to the bucket, but he had that
Chris Paul demarje Rosen type of mid range game worked.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Last night, and he had one And when the Clippers
were starting to come back in the fourth quarter and
he had a drove to the lane, did a couple
of turns on his pivot foot and then did a
fade away, and I was like, he is he is
in his bag tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He was.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
He was locked in the way Kawhi was locked in
a few games earlier. In Game two, Yeah, he was
just he was locked in. It's nice to see him
and Westbrook both locked in in the same game, you know,
because that hasn't really been a thing of late.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
That's interesting because remember before the player started and the
Nuggets lost a couple of games down the stretch and
the lands to buld, Calvin Booth and Michael Malone being fired,
and everyone was like, well, well when you think about
the fact of who was going to start, right, because
I was hearing something about a couple guys were upset
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because Malone was really favoring Westbrook opposed to Jamn Pickett,
and that became the dialogue.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Do you play Pickett? Do you play Westbrook?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And I'm like, you always roll with the veteran guy, especially,
you know, as sporadic as Westbrook is, He's going to
bring a lot of energy and sometimes even if your
shot isn't falling.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
This is one thing I love about Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Even if his shot isn't falling, he's still giving you
the energy.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Even when that energy ends up with him throwing the
ball away.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I do appreciate that. I think
limiting Russ's minutes over the last you know, eight or
nine games, I think that's helped. I think that's helped
him get his energy to his feet back and and
kind of helped him get back to being what he
was because I felt like he was overused for a
stretch there by Malone. And it's not to say that
we need to favor pick it or whatever, but you know,
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Russ Westbrook is a guy who's in his late thirties.
You know, the energy level that he brings to the
table is nice.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But it's not Why does everyone keep talking about he's
in his thirties? To me, what he's still doing in
his thirties? I know some twenty five year olds, well,
who can't do that?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Look between him and Lebron James, father, time's taking an
l right now. I mean we were watching those two
guys just just defy time.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, Lebron, that's that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm just saying, maybe some extra stuff. The only part
about that Lebron gave up his hairline so his game
could thrive, Because I'm telling.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You, man, like the further that thing received the board,
He's still higher balling.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
That's that power, that's super power. You pull on it
every single time, like that Joy said, you got to.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Go to it some time. Ridiculous overall though, I mean
it was it was Murray's night, and they need more
of that. They need they need more of his ability
to take over in stretches at the time. But the
thing that bought me again, one free throw attempt for
the game for Murray one you really.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Seriously, and that was on a breakaway right, like that
wasn't even and when he was shooting, that was on
a breakaway ninety feet away from the basket.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
They were in the penalty. Yeah, Zeke Naji played less
than two minutes and had three free throw attempts.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Okay, look at how Tyler lou is. They're defending Nikola Jokic.
I know you guys talking about files or whatever. And
this is why Jamal is not going to the stripe
that often, because the double teams are coming to Nicola Jokic, right,
They're coming to him where he's coming down to transition
and all the wing players they just run into the
short corners right, and Jamal knocking down the three point shots,
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knocking down the mid range game like Westbrook had twenty
one points last night, which you look at him like, wow,
he he did that. I would love to see him
do more of it. But Tyler said, well, we're gonna
we're gonna clamp down. We're gonna double on the Color Yokich.
We can allow Zuba to be that Roman guy that
floating out inside the paint. We're gonna put smaller guys
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like James Harden on the Color Yokic. When you do that,
now he can see the whole court and all you
have to do is dive to the basket and he's
gonna feed you. So this is why you're not getting
as many files. And I know you think, well, forty
three points and no files. To me, that's a great
shooting night.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Put Jamal murt it is, But twenty six field goal
attempts in one fouls kind of sketch. Uh. You know,
It's just one of those things. I mean, to be
honest with you, Nicola Yokic only getting five for you
throw attempts on the game's a little suspect. It just
feels like he gets hacked. All yeah, it feels like
the Nuggets do not get foul calls. You know what,
there is a disparity there.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And I'm not saying that is right because I see
him myself. But it's like when remember when Shaq was
in the league, ahak not into the fourth quarter, when
hacker Shaq came in that they started calling files. But
the look at a guy's size, they said, as massive
as he is, especially with with with Tyleru using Zuba
to kind of move around, you have smaller guys on
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the kola yok. You're like, well, there's a superior size
difference right there. So I'm thinking maybe the officials look
at that and say, well, we're not going to call that.
But every time the truck comes there and you have
that weak side defender coming, there's always either a deflection
or maybe a file on a deflection, and maybe the
fishers don't call because the size difference.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I do think though that then the Nuggets starting their
offense with Jamal Murray off the ball, like when him
and Westbrook are in together, or when they have Aaron
Gordon bring the ball up and start their offensive motion
through them, and Jamal Murray can just get lost in
the corner or on the on the edge that for
a three like that has completely changed the Nuggets offensive
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outlook as well, because he's your best outside shooter, so
you're getting him wide open looks because that double is
coming so quick to Joker.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, that's part of his game too. The pick and pop,
you know, for him has been has been a big
part of his game, you know, and get so like
if he's having to handle the ball unless he and
Nicola are playing the two man game, it's a disservice
to Murray, you know. I mean, I get that he's
listed as a point guard, but he's really a combo
guard with with with the brains that you want to
get the ball to. But you know what he Here's
what I think.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I don't notice for sure, but based on the production
we saw from Murray opposed to what we usually see
from Nikola Jokic, I wouldn't be surprised if Nikola Jokich
went to Jamal and said, look, this is gonna be
your knife. I'm gonna keep feeding you. You keep shooting
the ball, because at one point in the game, it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Was like a heat check, right like Jamal.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Will use to him coming off those screens and have
a pull up three or he's kind of down putting
the ball down in the pen and giving to Nikola Jokic.
But we saw Jamal Murray coming off some easy walk
up threes. Why he just said, you know what, you're
gonna play drop coverage, I'm shoot in your face.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And he had a couple that were probably as easy
as shot of the night that he missed, Like he
could have easily had fifty points last night.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
And I think I think we.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Got to give credit to Aaron Gordon and cb on
defense man James Harden looked off all night and Chris
Treman Brown was just in his business the whole game.
And Aaron Gordon does clearly does not look like he's
one hundred percent healthy, but he is shutting down Kawhi
like he Kawhi. Besides Game two with that thirty nine
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point out burst, he has not gone off, and that's
largely largely in part to Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I think well also.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Too, I would include at this grant mean that the
Clippers had a lot of open shots right because just
like the Clippers are trapping Nikola Jokic, the Nuggets are
looking to trap Kawhi. So when he's feeding the wings
and he's feeding Nick Petun Chris.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Dunn, and you know they're.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Not knocking down those open shots because they Coach Aldeman
has to definitely look at that as they to the
next game in Los Angeles. We can't give up those
open looks and you have to say, well, are you
going to bank on the Clippers missing those shots?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Because the difference in.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
The game, Like Jamal elevated his level play, we saw
great three points shooting from Russell Rustler, and they're leaving
him out there because they know that he's not consistent
with those threes. But the Nuggets, who have times left
guys open and you cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I mean, I think I had the Nuggets winning
this one handling I had have been five. I think
they're gonna close it out in six here and handle
business to be done with it. I just the question
has been about the depth and survivability throughout the throughout
the playoffs, and I think we all, at least to
my knowledge, expected the Nuggets to win this series. But
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the next series are they going to have? Is there
enough depth here? It's all gravy that that Jamal and
Russ are, you know, catching their stouts and catching their
stride and all that kind of stuff. Is there enough
up here to be able to hang with the teams
that you're gonna have to hang with. You're gonna beat
up a physical Minnesota team, or you're gonna be able
to outshoot an Okac team that's shooting everybody out of
the gym. Those are the two I think you have
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to have circle just can you match up with them
with the depth you have?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, Minnesota has proven that they can match up well
with the Denver Nuggets with Tim Colling, the former Nuggets
GM now running the show in Minnesota is like Minnesota's
They were put together to beat the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Any teams after that not so much. Right, So that's
going to be really interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I think everyone at this particular point, you're chasing Okac,
a team that's resting right now, a team that's young,
that they're hungry and they are playing great team basketball.
And that's a team that's been put together over the
years with all those draft picks that they kind of
sent off from Kevin Durant, Westbrook, James Harden. We have
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a lot of picks, and now it's coming to fruition
after all.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
These years of being so terrible there they.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I mean second to Okay, see, I would say Boston
is the second best team in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Cleveland gotta be up in that conversation. I don't know,
not better man in Boston. Crap out of your Miami heaty, Man,
they went by fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Five man, Hold on, hold hold, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'm just saying they looked they looked really good. The Calves.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, but no one took the conversation that way.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I mean, talk about the Calves.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
No, no, you said, I said, Boston, then said Calves, Yeah,
you said Miami.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That man, they beat the dog craft out.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Okay, is that what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's what we're doing. Fifty five points.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I'm just trying to get over that. Granted, you just
kind of just putting it back out.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
There, fifty five points.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, do you realize you said it like times.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
After the first quarter of that whole right there on three.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
That was over.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Look.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Look, here's the thing I knew already going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Miami didn't really have what it took to really make
a run. They don't really have that team, they don't really.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Have that star player. And I believe in my opinion,
bad out of Bajo.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
He's playing out of position when they have him playing
the five, He's better suited to play the four.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But you know what, there's always next year, so I mean,
go there, you know what, I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But but I'll say this by Gianni's he needed to
get the hell out of Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, I mean just they just have to get out
and that's gonna be interesting. I think there's gonna be
a lot of movement this offseason in the NBA. I
really do think there's gonna be a lot more movement
of big name players than there usually is.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Probably so, but we get a chance to watch it,
and maybe the Nuggets can build a better bench.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Maybe they can be beneficiaries there. Who knows, we come back.
We've got tell realists for your Denver Broncos and Granola
insider Rick Lewis. You listened to Broncos Country Night on
KIWA five six six nine Zerols text line going right
off to the Kay Commas Pearl I know and bringing
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on Broncos color analyst and Granola insider Rick Lewis, Rick,
what the funk is going on?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I'll tell you what the funk is really going on
with Bill Belichick in his twenty four year old girlfriend. Guys,
that interview he did with CBS was a complete disaster,
and CBS said they had to cut thirty minutes out
of it or it would have been even worse. And
he looked like he was in a catatonic state of
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some sort. I wanted to say, hey, Bill, Bill, listen,
blink four times real fast. If you're being held against
your will, that's what it looked like. It looked like
he was being held hostage by somebody, and that's I
think might have been his girlfriend. Twenty four year old
girlfriend was yelling in the background. They even said she
stormed out of the interview at the end. So what
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the funk is going on with that? Guys?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, it's amazing how many dudes that are the peak
of athletic prowess were afraid of Bill Belichick for so
many years, and we've got Bill Belichick being afraid of
a twenty four year old girl who apparently runs his
entire life. Odo ben see even Sampson had Delilah. Did
she cut his hair though?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah? That shows the power of how women can weaken us.
Even the strongest men can be weakened by the Rick. Rick,
have you ever had that situation happened to you, I
mean in your dating history, like you came in with
the macho bravado and some young lady just kind of
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to the savage beasts, if you will.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Yeah. I hate to admit it, Nick, but yes, yeah,
And you know, looking back on it, I'm still embarrassed
this day. The dumb stuff guys do, yes when they're
when they're when they're either in love or in lust
with a beautiful woman. And I think this is what's
going on with him. We've all done it. He's not
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the only one. I'm making fun of him, But come on,
he's seventy two, she's twenty four. We should give him
a little credit there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I'm going to a fauld him.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean, I don't even him high praise. They're both kids,
aiding adults. Who am I to comment on, you know,
as far as that kind of stuff goes. But it
looks like she she basically runs his life. I mean,
if you get do you delve in the weeds on
this and you start looking at some of the foyer
requests people have done over there at North Carolina where
she's dictating what people can say on message boards without
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being banned.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Yeah, and I'm not sure he knows she's even posting
stuff on social media. You know those pictures that she's
put out of him and them together. I'm not sure
he's even aware of that. And how do you think
this is going to go? Once football starts at North Carolina,
she'd probably be calling plays on the sidelines. This is crazy.
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But I don't know if this is going to last.
I think I think there's a good chance by the
time we get to the start of football season she's gone.
But here's the thing, guys. She knows a lot of
inside stuff about Bill Belichick that she could hold over
his head. She could write a book, she could go
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on TMZ and tell all kinds of personal things about
him that would be very embarrassing for him. So he's
at a really tough spot.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Well, Rick, I'll add this to it, because before the
season started, the idea was that the in season Hard
Knox was no longer going to be done with the
NFL based on what we saw with the New York
Giants and that travesty. But it just seemed as though,
like she eighty six that whole thing with Hard Knocks,
So we're not going to see the HBO Hard Knocks
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with Bill Belichick and Tatarios.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Well, are you surprised. You know, there's some rumors out
there too. You guys have probably seen them, and I'm
not saying they're true, but people are reading the tea
leaves and they think maybe she was an escort at
one time, and maybe that's why she jumped in there
and didn't want him to talk about how they met.
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I don't know, you know, if you if you want
to read into the situation, certainly as possible, which would
be embarrassing for both of them, But that's being floated
out there right now by a bunch of people. This
is one of the most interesting relationships that we've seen
in a long time. And man, are we seeing a
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different side of Bill Belichick that we've never seen before.
It's pretty pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, it feels to me like Bill Belichick's mailing it
in to get his kids jobs at this point. And
I'm including her and the kids at this point. But
you know, he hired his son to be the defensive
cooridators to Belichick. He's got his other son as a
defensive assistant on that staff, and then she's trying to
control the narrative. You know, she's sending emails to people
that we don't refer to him as Bill's son. You know,
he's his own entity, all this kind of nonsense, you know,
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to avoid the nepotism stuff. It just is just weird
to me. I don't know how they met. I don't
care really as far as that kind of stuff goes.
I just find it fascinating that you got what a
fifty something year fifty year age difference between the two
of them. Give her take, and like, what do you
have in common at that point?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
You know, yeah, I can't even imagine twenty four years old.
My daughters are older than that. It's like, yeah, what
are you guys doing? She I think, Well, you know,
you see a lot of times where young women and
older celebrity men that have money. You know, it's a
very common thing, and it goes the other way too,
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you know at times. But I get that, but he
just doesn't seem like the type to me. Yeah, maybe
he's a lot different than we thought he was. Like
I said, we're seeing a totally different side from him.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Great, I mean, there are a lot of individuals here
in Broncos country, even those from a national media's standpoint,
when they look at the Broncos draft, and people love
to get draft raids, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But when you look at the overall draft, player by player,
in the whole collective itself, what do you make of
the Broncos draft? Do you feel as though not asking
me to give grades, but the level of success, meaning
based on what the team wanted to accomplish to what
they actually brought in. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Well, I think when you look at the first two picks,
I think that pretty much says everything you need to
know about this Denver Broncos draft. Barron to me, may
have been the steal of the first round, and a
lot of insiders are saying that that's the guy we
never thought was going to drop to twenty. They got
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a really good special football player in the first round,
so you would certainly look at that and give them
an a for round one. Round two. A lot of
people think they probably should have taken Hampton there. But
the more you see RJ. Harvey, you know a lot
of people after he was drafted probably went back and
it checked him out a little more intently. This guy
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could be special in this offense, and he certainly provides
that explosive weapon that they need in the backfield, which
will really help out bone Nicks. So the more I
look at him, the more I like that pick. So
for me, those fourth first two picks combined, I would
give them an a minus for those two picks. Now,
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the rest of the guys are, to me, are projects.
I'm not sure about Pat Bryant. We'll see. I mean,
they obviously really like him taking him in the third round. Uh,
Sabon Jones and Kew Robinson are really interesting prospects. And
this guy, kel Robinson, that's another guy that people are
really talking a lot about. And so I had to
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go back and take another look at him. That guy
looks like he could be a steal as well. Now
he hasn't played much football, but uh, this is the
guy you're really gonna want to watch when we get
into training camp. So all in all, guys, I was
I was good with the draft. Not that anybody cares,
you know, over there at Broncos headquarters, but just those
first two picks alone were enough for me to say
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that it was a successful draft.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, I talk with color Elis Rick close. You know,
I beg to differ. I mean, when George Peyton and
Sean Payton came out, the first thing they did was
came over to the KOA table. You know, but what
did what did Ricklois think about this draft?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
We need to know to see. I didn't know that.
I'm glad you. I'm glad you mentioned I'm flattered.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And did he get your mom's phone number?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
No, they probably wanted your mobs phone though, Well that's.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
What I'm referring to in that particular case. Did he
get my mother's phone? Yeah? No, I thought it was
a good draft. I think people need to like just
take a deep breath and let's let's see how, you know,
let's see the vision. Let's see how this plays out
and trying to get people clowning. You know, de von
Vley last year as a pick and then he came
out in bald in training camp.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So you know, let the vision play out on the field.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
How you got a great stuff before they.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Even hit the field.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
What is there to grade?
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Yeah? And I think they'll probably there'll be some other
acquisitions here before the season starts. I still think they're
going to bring in another running back. I don't know
how you guys feel about that. Probably another wide receiver
as well, and there's going to be guys available. It's
it's going to be really interesting once we get into
camp and just seeing how these young guys play out.
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Pat Bryant, the wide receiver out of Illinois. I wasn't
quite sure what to think about that guy either, but
they seem to love the guy. You know, he compared
them to Michael Thomas. I'm talking about Sean Payton to
great hands and all that. And if Sean Payton feels
that good about him, why shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We Yeah, I'm with you there, Rick. We appreciate the
time as always and look forward to catching up with
you again next week.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Always good guys, thanks for having me on, and yeah,
we'll talk next week.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Absolutely five sixty six nine zeros in text line. Thanks
to Rick Luis for joining us in the last segment.
Three h three says Bill Belichick's needs a nurse and
she needs a purse. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I mean, listen, could we get to a point where
this could be considered like like someone's hurting an elderly person,
Like could we get to that point and say elder abuse. Yes,
like I don't know if it's abusive. I mean that
she's controlling, but I don't know if there's any abuse. Well,
that's part of the abuse, being controlled, not being in
(28:00):
control of your own thoughts and your own actions, and
someone else is playing the puppeteer.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Am I am I wrong? Could just be elderly abuse.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Just like the question you asked Rick if he'd ever
had that happen to him, happens to all of us.
Some things just are so good your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Hey, listen, I had a buddy like that in high school.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Oh, I mean, excuse me in college, and I merely
told him, whatever's happened to you, I never wanted to
happen to me because you are out of control, losing
your mind.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You should break up with that shit.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
But hey, it happened, and this is why you know what,
Maybe this is why I could be wrong, right, because
you know I was asking Rick about that, but I
noticed Ben didn't really chime in too much, right, because
I don't know if Ben is not a lover.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Right, we know how it feels about love.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well, I there's well, I sure, but that doesn't have
to be love it could be lost in those cases too. Look,
I I'm just not I've never been in a situation
where I've been controlled by that. Like I'm sorry, Like
at the end of the day, like if I get
somebody that's just trying to exercise that level of control,
I'll find somebody else.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
It's like, Noah, wrong, how you have been in a
position where you can find someone else because your mind
is already distorted.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
All you see is her face all day every day.
You can't see anyone else.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I've never well, I don't know what you're referring to
right now, Do I have a Do I have a
billboard in front of my face all day? Because I mean,
like just nobody's ever happy like that, Like it's not
you know, I'm maybe that's maybe that's a me thing.
I don't know, but I've never been because you've never
opened yourself up.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
There there you go, he's never opened his heart. Well,
first of all, to open your heart, yes, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I just like I've just never been in a
situation where I'm just like, yeah, I'm addicted to that
person or whatever, Like it's just not, you know, it's
not that kind of thing, Like I don't you know.
Under somebody started started trying to exercise that level of
control over me, I'd be like, look, there's one of
me and there's like fifteen of you, and I'll go
find the next death like Beyonce the left and left.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
But see, that's the one thing about love, man, you
can't decide who you love. When it happens is like
attracted being, It pulls you in, right. I Mean I've
been in some situations where I've.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Done some done stuff, but like at the end of
the day, like if somebody's trying to clamp that level
of control, I'm throwing up two fingers shot the deuces, bigge, one.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
On each hand.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
I don't know, just like I just I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Like there's you know what what specific thing is. It's
just some some chemical, neurological connection that you can control
because everything else involved in that situation can be replaced.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Because because we are dudes. Like, how many dudes have
wrecked their lives right because of that?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
How many dudes?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Talk to me what I'm seventy and I got a
twenty four year old girlfriend. Well, and there's some things
that are that good and you lose control of what
you guys have to say that stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
So like, fine, I'm not talking about marriage at all, right,
I'm talking about what Belle Belichick's.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
In his relationship. Yes, I know what he's in his
relationship for. You could like I'm saying, right, you're Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
There's fifteen of those lined up. You know what's happened
to Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You've ever seen the Jungle Book when the snake comes
down and the kid is staring into his eyes and
he's hypnotized.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That's what's happening to him. It happens to the best
of us.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm just maybe I'm not able to be hypnotized. I
don't know. I guess his snake is hypnotized. Yeah, that's
one way to put it. I don't Yeah, so you
got before he does, Like Annonaicole Smith thinks Belichick and
his girlfriend of cringe.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean he's you know, I mean he's sweating old's
Bill seventy two, seventy three years old. So I'm like,
guess seventy four, Yes.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
The thing she's twenty four, twenty five five five, Now, okay, yes,
I mean I guess that's the thing. Now older man
younger women.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I mean that was a thing in twenty five. There
you go, that was the thing. That's been a thing
for millennia.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Some guys in fifty six check out the date ranges
on people in the Bible, Like, what did you think
a different times?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'm just saying that a different time biblical Belichick is
just bringing it back. I guess I don't know. I'm
just saying, like, but I don't get all that, Like
I'm not gonna let somebody, you know, maybe if I'm
seventy and I need somebody to Phoebe in my tapioca
pudding or something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
At that point, I guess what elder abuse?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Maybe I don't know. We got people chiming in on that,
like somebody's saying, she's saying, you're correct that older abuse
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We don't tell Nick he's correct on the show. We
can't we can't let him. We can't let him have
a win, can't let him have a dumb Why not?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It makes sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
The three or seven says Ben's afraid of women that
are hire a status, smarter and high achieving them. No,
I'd love to find one. Let me know when you
let me know what you got one. Wow, Michael texting
in there.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
We'll be right.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Let me just check that numbers. We got, Ryan, Michael,
we come back Brooks Country today
Benjamin all Bright, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you
five six six nine zero is the text line, you
guys want to get involved in the conversation pic show tonight.
Rick lewis going to join A six thirty Ryan and
Michael seven oh five. Guys, I got to ask you
the question that is burning everyone's mind right now here
in Denver. One gorilla or one hundred men?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Stop? Stop it? Stop it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Why are people like debating? Why this is like a thing?
Where did this come from? I don't know. Some idiot
posted clickbait on social media has taken off. It's like everywhere.
I've seen it on every sports talk show.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We talked about it yesterday on KOA Sports, and I'm like,
what is happening?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Ryan brought it up when we were at Sam's doing
a sports suit and I was like, what the hell
is this? I mean, one man versus a gorilla? Why
are we doing this? I mean, just like you who
thought this would be a great idea, but whomever it is.
As crazy as it sounds, it's got everyone talking to me.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
There are people who are.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
On YouTube actually breaking this down and talking about having
individual humans in waves based on body type, to kind
of wear down the gorilla. And for me, I told Ryan,
I was like, look, if you want to put it
to test, let's go down to the Denver Zoo.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Just walk in there and just I'll do some research
and let him.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Let him actually be the first one to test the
theory out.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Like, I on one hundred percent believe one hundred people
are going to beat that gorilla. But I wu one
hundred percent believe all the people that think that they
are going to be in that one hundred people should
not be. You got one hundred Era Donald's out there
are adamicasus. They're gonna whip that thing. They are like,
there's abuch sheer volume.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Then well we're kind of lose, Like we're gonna lose
like like seven.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Or eight of them.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I don't want I don't really gonna have this conversation, but.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Jeez, you square up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I mean, you're talking about a dominicanco talking about h
other players, and I'm thinking, like, have you ever seen
a simple back?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
I mean, they don't lift any weights, their tracks, their
shoulders are ridiculous, Right, how can I get on that
extra ship plan? Hey?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Look, man, my father used to tell me when I
used to tell him, man, you need to lift weights.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He said, you ever seen a gorilla lyft weights?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I was like no, and he said, well all they
eat was tree bark and trees.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I say, look, you can do a gorilla can do that?
Not yet the next time your dad's eat the steak
or take the steak. Here's some bamboo.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I mean, you know what, See, here's when I draw
the line on this whole thing, because someone is going
to you know how people are.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
People do stupid stuff, yes, and someone someone's gonna test
like an idiot and get thrashed.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I mean we've seen in stupid people climb inside the
Tiger exhibit and that, like Chris Rock said that Tiger
went Tiger where everyone's blaming its tiger.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
He's the ason one.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Don't put your body in the enclosure.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, justice for her. Rumbe. Hey what's next?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Alr p?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yes, what's what's the next thing? That stupid things? Someone's
gonna come up?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Oh, I don't know. They always come up with dumb,
dumb stuff like that. I just like and then I
posted I can't say what's on that shirt, but I
posted a picture on that was pretty funny instagram of
somebody who thought that they were wearing a T shirt
they had made up referencing that, and it went a
whole different direction. You guys can look at my Instagram
(03:41):
stories and figure that not Mellman Street, not a well
structured simence.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, get grammar is.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Important, really important? What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I'll just say grammer has never had a bigger l
than it did on that shirt.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's all up, sading well sell you who was a
gorilla last night? That was Jamal Murray.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know what, here's the interesting thing about Jamal. We
don't always get this type of Jamal.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
We always hear about playoff Jimmy, Jimmy Butler plays for
now plays for the Golden State Warriors, and then it's
playoff Jamal. But we don't always see these individuals all
the time. And you know that Jamal is capable of
taking games over like this, But for me, this is
this is kind of why Jamal is not.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Really seen as an all star.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Now we can say he has an all star ability,
but he's not really seen as an All star because
he can't consistently put those games back to back together.
And Nikola jokish Man, as great as he was. I mean,
he was just kind of like the Maestro getting everyone involved.
His point total wasn't what we're used to seeing, right,
(04:54):
but that's not devaluing him. It was more or less
I need you guys to help me, so I'm gonna
get you two more involved in. Jamal was in his bag, man,
He was in his bag last night.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He was and not afraid to take the shots either
seventeen or twenty six in the field, eight to fourteen
from downtown. Forty three points for Jamal Murray and only
one of those points came on a free throw one.
You mean to tell me that in twenty six shot
attempts he got fouled once?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, totally on is Jamal was playing on the perimeter
the entire game. Yeah, there were a couple of plays
that he drove to the bucket, but he had that
Chris Paul demarje Rosen type of mid range game worked.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Last night, and he had one And when the Clippers
were starting to come back in the fourth quarter and
he had a drove to the lane, did a couple
of turns on his pivot foot and then did a
fade away, and I was like, he is he is
in his bag tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He was.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
He was locked in the way Kawhi was locked in
a few games earlier. In Game two, Yeah, he was
just he was locked in. It's nice to see him
and Westbrook both locked in in the same game, you know,
because that hasn't really been a thing of late.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
That's interesting because remember before the player started and the
Nuggets lost a couple of games down the stretch and
the lands to buld, Calvin Booth and Michael Malone being fired,
and everyone was like, well, well when you think about
the fact of who was going to start, right, because
I was hearing something about a couple guys were upset
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because Malone was really favoring Westbrook opposed to Jamn Pickett,
and that became the dialogue.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Do you play Pickett? Do you play Westbrook?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And I'm like, you always roll with the veteran guy, especially,
you know, as sporadic as Westbrook is, He's going to
bring a lot of energy and sometimes even if your
shot isn't falling.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
This is one thing I love about Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Even if his shot isn't falling, he's still giving you
the energy.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Even when that energy ends up with him throwing the
ball away.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I do appreciate that. I think
limiting Russ's minutes over the last you know, eight or
nine games, I think that's helped. I think that's helped
him get his energy to his feet back and and
kind of helped him get back to being what he
was because I felt like he was overused for a
stretch there by Malone. And it's not to say that
we need to favor pick it or whatever, but you know,
(07:13):
Russ Westbrook is a guy who's in his late thirties.
You know, the energy level that he brings to the
table is nice.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But it's not Why does everyone keep talking about he's
in his thirties? To me, what he's still doing in
his thirties? I know some twenty five year olds, well,
who can't do that?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Look between him and Lebron James, father, time's taking an
l right now. I mean we were watching those two
guys just just defy time.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, Lebron, that's that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm just saying, maybe some extra stuff. The only part
about that Lebron gave up his hairline so his game
could thrive, Because I'm telling.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You, man, like the further that thing received the board,
He's still higher balling.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
That's that power, that's super power. You pull on it
every single time, like that Joy said, you got to.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Go to it some time. Ridiculous overall though, I mean
it was it was Murray's night, and they need more
of that. They need they need more of his ability
to take over in stretches at the time. But the
thing that bought me again, one free throw attempt for
the game for Murray one you really.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Seriously, and that was on a breakaway right, like that
wasn't even and when he was shooting, that was on
a breakaway ninety feet away from the basket.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
They were in the penalty. Yeah, Zeke Naji played less
than two minutes and had three free throw attempts.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Okay, look at how Tyler lou is. They're defending Nikola Jokic.
I know you guys talking about files or whatever. And
this is why Jamal is not going to the stripe
that often, because the double teams are coming to Nicola Jokic, right,
They're coming to him where he's coming down to transition
and all the wing players they just run into the
short corners right, and Jamal knocking down the three point shots,
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knocking down the mid range game like Westbrook had twenty
one points last night, which you look at him like, wow,
he he did that. I would love to see him
do more of it. But Tyler said, well, we're gonna
we're gonna clamp down. We're gonna double on the Color Yokich.
We can allow Zuba to be that Roman guy that
floating out inside the paint. We're gonna put smaller guys
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like James Harden on the Color Yokic. When you do that,
now he can see the whole court and all you
have to do is dive to the basket and he's
gonna feed you. So this is why you're not getting
as many files. And I know you think, well, forty
three points and no files. To me, that's a great
shooting night.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Put Jamal murt it is, But twenty six field goal
attempts in one fouls kind of sketch. Uh. You know,
It's just one of those things. I mean, to be
honest with you, Nicola Yokic only getting five for you
throw attempts on the game's a little suspect. It just
feels like he gets hacked. All yeah, it feels like
the Nuggets do not get foul calls. You know what,
there is a disparity there.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And I'm not saying that is right because I see
him myself. But it's like when remember when Shaq was
in the league, ahak not into the fourth quarter, when
hacker Shaq came in that they started calling files. But
the look at a guy's size, they said, as massive
as he is, especially with with with Tyleru using Zuba
to kind of move around, you have smaller guys on
(10:10):
the kola yok. You're like, well, there's a superior size
difference right there. So I'm thinking maybe the officials look
at that and say, well, we're not going to call that.
But every time the truck comes there and you have
that weak side defender coming, there's always either a deflection
or maybe a file on a deflection, and maybe the
fishers don't call because the size difference.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I do think though that then the Nuggets starting their
offense with Jamal Murray off the ball, like when him
and Westbrook are in together, or when they have Aaron
Gordon bring the ball up and start their offensive motion
through them, and Jamal Murray can just get lost in
the corner or on the on the edge that for
a three like that has completely changed the Nuggets offensive
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outlook as well, because he's your best outside shooter, so
you're getting him wide open looks because that double is
coming so quick to Joker.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, that's part of his game too. The pick and pop,
you know, for him has been has been a big
part of his game, you know, and get so like
if he's having to handle the ball unless he and
Nicola are playing the two man game, it's a disservice
to Murray, you know. I mean, I get that he's
listed as a point guard, but he's really a combo
guard with with with the brains that you want to
get the ball to. But you know what he Here's
what I think.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I don't notice for sure, but based on the production
we saw from Murray opposed to what we usually see
from Nikola Jokic, I wouldn't be surprised if Nikola Jokich
went to Jamal and said, look, this is gonna be
your knife. I'm gonna keep feeding you. You keep shooting
the ball, because at one point in the game, it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Was like a heat check, right like Jamal.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Will use to him coming off those screens and have
a pull up three or he's kind of down putting
the ball down in the pen and giving to Nikola Jokic.
But we saw Jamal Murray coming off some easy walk
up threes. Why he just said, you know what, you're
gonna play drop coverage, I'm shoot in your face.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And he had a couple that were probably as easy
as shot of the night that he missed, Like he
could have easily had fifty points last night.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
And I think I think we.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Got to give credit to Aaron Gordon and cb on
defense man James Harden looked off all night and Chris
Treman Brown was just in his business the whole game.
And Aaron Gordon does clearly does not look like he's
one hundred percent healthy, but he is shutting down Kawhi
like he Kawhi. Besides Game two with that thirty nine
(12:26):
point out burst, he has not gone off, and that's
largely largely in part to Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I think well also.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Too, I would include at this grant mean that the
Clippers had a lot of open shots right because just
like the Clippers are trapping Nikola Jokic, the Nuggets are
looking to trap Kawhi. So when he's feeding the wings
and he's feeding Nick Petun Chris.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Dunn, and you know they're.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Not knocking down those open shots because they Coach Aldeman
has to definitely look at that as they to the
next game in Los Angeles. We can't give up those
open looks and you have to say, well, are you
going to bank on the Clippers missing those shots?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Because the difference in.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
The game, Like Jamal elevated his level play, we saw
great three points shooting from Russell Rustler, and they're leaving
him out there because they know that he's not consistent
with those threes. But the Nuggets, who have times left
guys open and you cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I mean, I think I had the Nuggets winning
this one handling I had have been five. I think
they're gonna close it out in six here and handle
business to be done with it. I just the question
has been about the depth and survivability throughout the throughout
the playoffs, and I think we all, at least to
my knowledge, expected the Nuggets to win this series. But
(13:50):
the next series are they going to have? Is there
enough depth here? It's all gravy that that Jamal and
Russ are, you know, catching their stouts and catching their
stride and all that kind of stuff. Is there enough
up here to be able to hang with the teams
that you're gonna have to hang with. You're gonna beat
up a physical Minnesota team, or you're gonna be able
to outshoot an Okac team that's shooting everybody out of
the gym. Those are the two I think you have
(14:12):
to have circle just can you match up with them
with the depth you have?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, Minnesota has proven that they can match up well
with the Denver Nuggets with Tim Colling, the former Nuggets
GM now running the show in Minnesota is like Minnesota's
They were put together to beat the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Any teams after that not so much. Right, So that's
going to be really interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I think everyone at this particular point, you're chasing Okac,
a team that's resting right now, a team that's young,
that they're hungry and they are playing great team basketball.
And that's a team that's been put together over the
years with all those draft picks that they kind of
sent off from Kevin Durant, Westbrook, James Harden. We have
(15:00):
a lot of picks, and now it's coming to fruition
after all.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
These years of being so terrible there they.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I mean second to Okay, see, I would say Boston
is the second best team in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Cleveland gotta be up in that conversation. I don't know,
not better man in Boston. Crap out of your Miami heaty, Man,
they went by fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Five man, Hold on, hold hold, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'm just saying they looked they looked really good. The Calves.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, but no one took the conversation that way.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I mean, talk about the Calves.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
No, no, you said, I said, Boston, then said Calves, Yeah,
you said Miami.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That man, they beat the dog craft out.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Okay, is that what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's what we're doing. Fifty five points.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I'm just trying to get over that. Granted, you just
kind of just putting it back out.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
There, fifty five points.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, do you realize you said it like times.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
After the first quarter of that whole right there on three.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
That was over.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Look.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Look, here's the thing I knew already going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Miami didn't really have what it took to really make
a run. They don't really have that team, they don't really.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Have that star player. And I believe in my opinion,
bad out of Bajo.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
He's playing out of position when they have him playing
the five, He's better suited to play the four.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But you know what, there's always next year, so I mean,
go there, you know what, I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But but I'll say this by Gianni's he needed to
get the hell out of Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, I mean just they just have to get out
and that's gonna be interesting. I think there's gonna be
a lot of movement this offseason in the NBA. I
really do think there's gonna be a lot more movement
of big name players than there usually is.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Probably so, but we get a chance to watch it,
and maybe the Nuggets can build a better bench.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Maybe they can be beneficiaries there. Who knows, we come back.
We've got tell realists for your Denver Broncos and Granola
insider Rick Lewis. You listened to Broncos Country Night on
KIWA five six six nine Zerols text line going right
off to the Kay Commas Pearl I know and bringing
(17:19):
on Broncos color analyst and Granola insider Rick Lewis, Rick,
what the funk is going on?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I'll tell you what the funk is really going on
with Bill Belichick in his twenty four year old girlfriend. Guys,
that interview he did with CBS was a complete disaster,
and CBS said they had to cut thirty minutes out
of it or it would have been even worse. And
he looked like he was in a catatonic state of
(17:46):
some sort. I wanted to say, hey, Bill, Bill, listen,
blink four times real fast. If you're being held against
your will, that's what it looked like. It looked like
he was being held hostage by somebody, and that's I
think might have been his girlfriend. Twenty four year old
girlfriend was yelling in the background. They even said she
stormed out of the interview at the end. So what
(18:09):
the funk is going on with that? Guys?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, it's amazing how many dudes that are the peak
of athletic prowess were afraid of Bill Belichick for so
many years, and we've got Bill Belichick being afraid of
a twenty four year old girl who apparently runs his
entire life. Odo ben see even Sampson had Delilah. Did
she cut his hair though?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah? That shows the power of how women can weaken us.
Even the strongest men can be weakened by the Rick. Rick,
have you ever had that situation happened to you, I
mean in your dating history, like you came in with
the macho bravado and some young lady just kind of
(18:53):
to the savage beasts, if you will.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Yeah. I hate to admit it, Nick, but yes, yeah,
And you know, looking back on it, I'm still embarrassed
this day. The dumb stuff guys do, yes when they're
when they're when they're either in love or in lust
with a beautiful woman. And I think this is what's
going on with him. We've all done it. He's not
(19:17):
the only one. I'm making fun of him, But come on,
he's seventy two, she's twenty four. We should give him
a little credit there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I'm going to a fauld him.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean, I don't even him high praise. They're both kids,
aiding adults. Who am I to comment on, you know,
as far as that kind of stuff goes. But it
looks like she she basically runs his life. I mean,
if you get do you delve in the weeds on
this and you start looking at some of the foyer
requests people have done over there at North Carolina where
she's dictating what people can say on message boards without
(19:46):
being banned.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Yeah, and I'm not sure he knows she's even posting
stuff on social media. You know those pictures that she's
put out of him and them together. I'm not sure
he's even aware of that. And how do you think
this is going to go? Once football starts at North Carolina,
she'd probably be calling plays on the sidelines. This is crazy.
(20:12):
But I don't know if this is going to last.
I think I think there's a good chance by the
time we get to the start of football season she's gone.
But here's the thing, guys. She knows a lot of
inside stuff about Bill Belichick that she could hold over
his head. She could write a book, she could go
(20:34):
on TMZ and tell all kinds of personal things about
him that would be very embarrassing for him. So he's
at a really tough spot.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Well, Rick, I'll add this to it, because before the
season started, the idea was that the in season Hard
Knox was no longer going to be done with the
NFL based on what we saw with the New York
Giants and that travesty. But it just seemed as though,
like she eighty six that whole thing with Hard Knocks,
So we're not going to see the HBO Hard Knocks
(21:05):
with Bill Belichick and Tatarios.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Well, are you surprised. You know, there's some rumors out
there too. You guys have probably seen them, and I'm
not saying they're true, but people are reading the tea
leaves and they think maybe she was an escort at
one time, and maybe that's why she jumped in there
and didn't want him to talk about how they met.
(21:30):
I don't know, you know, if you if you want
to read into the situation, certainly as possible, which would
be embarrassing for both of them, But that's being floated
out there right now by a bunch of people. This
is one of the most interesting relationships that we've seen
in a long time. And man, are we seeing a
(21:50):
different side of Bill Belichick that we've never seen before.
It's pretty pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, it feels to me like Bill Belichick's mailing it
in to get his kids jobs at this point. And
I'm including her and the kids at this point. But
you know, he hired his son to be the defensive
cooridators to Belichick. He's got his other son as a
defensive assistant on that staff, and then she's trying to
control the narrative. You know, she's sending emails to people
that we don't refer to him as Bill's son. You know,
he's his own entity, all this kind of nonsense, you know,
(22:17):
to avoid the nepotism stuff. It just is just weird
to me. I don't know how they met. I don't
care really as far as that kind of stuff goes.
I just find it fascinating that you got what a
fifty something year fifty year age difference between the two
of them. Give her take, and like, what do you
have in common at that point?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
You know, yeah, I can't even imagine twenty four years old.
My daughters are older than that. It's like, yeah, what
are you guys doing? She I think, Well, you know,
you see a lot of times where young women and
older celebrity men that have money. You know, it's a
very common thing, and it goes the other way too,
(22:56):
you know at times. But I get that, but he
just doesn't seem like the type to me. Yeah, maybe
he's a lot different than we thought he was. Like
I said, we're seeing a totally different side from him.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Great, I mean, there are a lot of individuals here
in Broncos country, even those from a national media's standpoint,
when they look at the Broncos draft, and people love
to get draft raids, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But when you look at the overall draft, player by player,
in the whole collective itself, what do you make of
the Broncos draft? Do you feel as though not asking
me to give grades, but the level of success, meaning
based on what the team wanted to accomplish to what
they actually brought in. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Well, I think when you look at the first two picks,
I think that pretty much says everything you need to
know about this Denver Broncos draft. Barron to me, may
have been the steal of the first round, and a
lot of insiders are saying that that's the guy we
never thought was going to drop to twenty. They got
(24:07):
a really good special football player in the first round,
so you would certainly look at that and give them
an a for round one. Round two. A lot of
people think they probably should have taken Hampton there. But
the more you see RJ. Harvey, you know a lot
of people after he was drafted probably went back and
it checked him out a little more intently. This guy
(24:31):
could be special in this offense, and he certainly provides
that explosive weapon that they need in the backfield, which
will really help out bone Nicks. So the more I
look at him, the more I like that pick. So
for me, those fourth first two picks combined, I would
give them an a minus for those two picks. Now,
(24:53):
the rest of the guys are, to me, are projects.
I'm not sure about Pat Bryant. We'll see. I mean,
they obviously really like him taking him in the third round. Uh,
Sabon Jones and Kew Robinson are really interesting prospects. And
this guy, kel Robinson, that's another guy that people are
really talking a lot about. And so I had to
(25:15):
go back and take another look at him. That guy
looks like he could be a steal as well. Now
he hasn't played much football, but uh, this is the
guy you're really gonna want to watch when we get
into training camp. So all in all, guys, I was
I was good with the draft. Not that anybody cares,
you know, over there at Broncos headquarters, but just those
first two picks alone were enough for me to say
(25:38):
that it was a successful draft.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, I talk with color Elis Rick close. You know,
I beg to differ. I mean, when George Peyton and
Sean Payton came out, the first thing they did was
came over to the KOA table. You know, but what
did what did Ricklois think about this draft?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
We need to know to see. I didn't know that.
I'm glad you. I'm glad you mentioned I'm flattered.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And did he get your mom's phone number?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
No, they probably wanted your mobs phone though, Well that's.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
What I'm referring to in that particular case. Did he
get my mother's phone? Yeah? No, I thought it was
a good draft. I think people need to like just
take a deep breath and let's let's see how, you know,
let's see the vision. Let's see how this plays out
and trying to get people clowning. You know, de von
Vley last year as a pick and then he came
out in bald in training camp.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So you know, let the vision play out on the field.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
How you got a great stuff before they.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Even hit the field.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
What is there to grade?
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Yeah? And I think they'll probably there'll be some other
acquisitions here before the season starts. I still think they're
going to bring in another running back. I don't know
how you guys feel about that. Probably another wide receiver
as well, and there's going to be guys available. It's
it's going to be really interesting once we get into
camp and just seeing how these young guys play out.
(26:47):
Pat Bryant, the wide receiver out of Illinois. I wasn't
quite sure what to think about that guy either, but
they seem to love the guy. You know, he compared
them to Michael Thomas. I'm talking about Sean Payton to
great hands and all that. And if Sean Payton feels
that good about him, why shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We Yeah, I'm with you there, Rick. We appreciate the
time as always and look forward to catching up with
you again next week.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Always good guys, thanks for having me on, and yeah,
we'll talk next week.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Absolutely five sixty six nine zeros in text line. Thanks
to Rick Luis for joining us in the last segment.
Three h three says Bill Belichick's needs a nurse and
she needs a purse. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I mean, listen, could we get to a point where
this could be considered like like someone's hurting an elderly person,
Like could we get to that point and say elder abuse. Yes,
like I don't know if it's abusive. I mean that
she's controlling, but I don't know if there's any abuse. Well,
that's part of the abuse, being controlled, not being in
(28:00):
control of your own thoughts and your own actions, and
someone else is playing the puppeteer.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Am I am I wrong? Could just be elderly abuse.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Just like the question you asked Rick if he'd ever
had that happen to him, happens to all of us.
Some things just are so good your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Hey, listen, I had a buddy like that in high school.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Oh, I mean, excuse me in college, and I merely
told him, whatever's happened to you, I never wanted to
happen to me because you are out of control, losing
your mind.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You should break up with that shit.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
But hey, it happened, and this is why you know what,
Maybe this is why I could be wrong, right, because
you know I was asking Rick about that, but I
noticed Ben didn't really chime in too much, right, because
I don't know if Ben is not a lover.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Right, we know how it feels about love.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well, I there's well, I sure, but that doesn't have
to be love it could be lost in those cases too. Look,
I I'm just not I've never been in a situation
where I've been controlled by that. Like I'm sorry, Like
at the end of the day, like if I get
somebody that's just trying to exercise that level of control,
I'll find somebody else.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
It's like, Noah, wrong, how you have been in a
position where you can find someone else because your mind
is already distorted.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
All you see is her face all day every day.
You can't see anyone else.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I've never well, I don't know what you're referring to
right now, Do I have a Do I have a
billboard in front of my face all day? Because I mean,
like just nobody's ever happy like that, Like it's not
you know, I'm maybe that's maybe that's a me thing.
I don't know, but I've never been because you've never
opened yourself up.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
There there you go, he's never opened his heart. Well,
first of all, to open your heart, yes, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I just like I've just never been in a
situation where I'm just like, yeah, I'm addicted to that
person or whatever, Like it's just not, you know, it's
not that kind of thing, Like I don't you know.
Under somebody started started trying to exercise that level of
control over me, I'd be like, look, there's one of
me and there's like fifteen of you, and I'll go
find the next death like Beyonce the left and left.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
But see, that's the one thing about love, man, you
can't decide who you love. When it happens is like
attracted being, It pulls you in, right. I Mean I've
been in some situations where I've.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Done some done stuff, but like at the end of
the day, like if somebody's trying to clamp that level
of control, I'm throwing up two fingers shot the deuces, bigge, one.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
On each hand.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
I don't know, just like I just I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Like there's you know what what specific thing is. It's
just some some chemical, neurological connection that you can control
because everything else involved in that situation can be replaced.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Because because we are dudes. Like, how many dudes have
wrecked their lives right because of that?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
How many dudes?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Talk to me what I'm seventy and I got a
twenty four year old girlfriend. Well, and there's some things
that are that good and you lose control of what
you guys have to say that stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
So like, fine, I'm not talking about marriage at all, right,
I'm talking about what Belle Belichick's.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
In his relationship. Yes, I know what he's in his
relationship for. You could like I'm saying, right, you're Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
There's fifteen of those lined up. You know what's happened
to Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You've ever seen the Jungle Book when the snake comes
down and the kid is staring into his eyes and
he's hypnotized.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That's what's happening to him. It happens to the best
of us.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm just maybe I'm not able to be hypnotized. I
don't know. I guess his snake is hypnotized. Yeah, that's
one way to put it. I don't Yeah, so you
got before he does, Like Annonaicole Smith thinks Belichick and
his girlfriend of cringe.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean he's you know, I mean he's sweating old's
Bill seventy two, seventy three years old. So I'm like,
guess seventy four, Yes.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
The thing she's twenty four, twenty five five five, Now, okay, yes,
I mean I guess that's the thing. Now older man
younger women.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I mean that was a thing in twenty five. There
you go, that was the thing. That's been a thing
for millennia.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Some guys in fifty six check out the date ranges
on people in the Bible, Like, what did you think
a different times?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'm just saying that a different time biblical Belichick is
just bringing it back. I guess I don't know. I'm
just saying, like, but I don't get all that, Like
I'm not gonna let somebody, you know, maybe if I'm
seventy and I need somebody to Phoebe in my tapioca
pudding or something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
At that point, I guess what elder abuse?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Maybe I don't know. We got people chiming in on that,
like somebody's saying, she's saying, you're correct that older abuse
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We don't tell Nick he's correct on the show. We
can't we can't let him. We can't let him have
a win, can't let him have a dumb Why not?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It makes sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
The three or seven says Ben's afraid of women that
are hire a status, smarter and high achieving them. No,
I'd love to find one. Let me know when you
let me know what you got one. Wow, Michael texting
in there.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
We'll be right.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Let me just check that numbers. We got, Ryan, Michael,
we come back Brooks Country today
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