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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just discussing the Cleveland Calves epic choke against the Indiana Pacers.
I mean, granted dieing Farriss to the Caves, they had
like six players out, but it's a second game in
a row where they've been up seven with under fifty
seconds to go and found a way to lose.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I missed it.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I was over here editing some stuff for the podcast,
and I looked up and then it's the seven point
lead was a race, and I was watching Tyrese Haliburton's
celebration at the end.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We haven't had Halliburton up this big since Dick Cheney
was VP. I yeah, I bet the Calves tonight, Like
I'm you know, I'm making these jokes because, yeah, how
do you choke a seven point lead with forty eight
seconds to go?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, because we were sitting here talking to Ryan Blackburn
from my high sports and I just looked up and
I was like, why is Halliburton doing that very inappropriate gesture?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think it was an he was paying homage to
the Major League character Serrana.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
At first I thought it was maybe once I realized
that the Pacers that won the game, is it because
that Halla Burton has been getting a lot of negative
backlash because we not just that, but some people are
suggesting that he's an overrated player and for him to
knock down two clutch shots.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Voted on by four or by uh players in the
league currently that he was the most overrated player so
by his peers.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Which is weird because I think he's one of the
most underrated players and most clutch.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, well, he's proven how clutch he is at this
moment to stick a dagger and the Cleveland Cavs not
once but twice, and this was one of one of those.
The Cleveland Cavaliers team that most coming into the playoffs,
figures though that they were going to challenge the Celtics
for the right to represent the Eastern Conference, But right
(01:57):
now being in the whole oh two, it doesn't look way.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Three sixty win teams in the regular season this year,
none of them have won a second round.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Playoff game, yet they're just an insane number.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Albert drained three from the top of the key one
point one seconds left. Indy had a rallied from down
twenty in the second half.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Okay, so based on what you just said, Grant, which
one is it? Is? It the fact that, well, we
put too much into the regular season and the team
winning more than sixty games, or is it the fact
that playoff basketball is on a whole nother level or
the third thing, sometimes you just get lucky.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think it's playoff basketball is completely differently played than
regular season basketball is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's so much more physical.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You got to rebound the ball, and it always comes
down to clutch plays and the players.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The teams with the clutch players.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You know, the Nuggets, the Knicks with Jalen Brunson last
night and then Halliburton tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
They're showing up in the big time plays.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Because you're right, because chet Holmgren had opportunity shooting two
free throw the pretty much ice the game and put
the Nuggets in a very difficult spot.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
At most that three would have tied it for Aaron Gorr. Right, Wow, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, to be fair to Cleveland again, you got Garland,
Hunter and Mobley out with injury or illness tonight, so
in fairness you were down three. I mean, Struce played
forty minutes. In fairness to Cleveland, he played pretty damn good,
though they played all right. I mean, he's five to twelve.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now, he played good for Cleveland, but he didn't play
good for the Heat. You had to get out of
that heat culture, Yeah you got.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You had thirty minutes of d and Wade tonight got
three points out of it. You had twenty seven minutes
of Ty Jerome and got two points out of it
one of fourteen from the floor. That is absolutely a
recipe for disaster. Somehow wasted a forty eight point game
from Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Though, so would this would this be a case where
you look at the coaches say, well, he didn't really apply.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
His scouting report.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, because Holler Burdon knocked down that the clutch jumper
to win game one, he's in the position to do
in a game too.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Is it more coach or more player? I think it's.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, you have to have a court awareness to
not let that guy get free.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I mean the Halibert only shot two threes on the night,
maybe both of them, but he only shot two threes,
you know. I mean it's one of those things where
you're just like, what what.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Are we doing here? How are you not defending the guy,
the dagger shot guy?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Because maybe you're thinking, okay, well, in game one, maybe
that was a lucky three point shot. You know, though
Halliburton has been known for being able to knock down
three four shots.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But yeah, if we're up three, you know we're doing
We're defending the perimeter and we're letting Siakam do you
know the nothing on offense that he normally does. That's
my scouting report and I'm not an NBA coach.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
So the game is winding down, is tight, it is like, look,
we're just going to trap.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
We're up to the perimeter.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I got one body back there to just kind of
wave at Siakam.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
If we have to tie it and.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Go to overtime, how about this? How about this for
an idea, just follow him on the inbound.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And make sure they only get the two there.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
He's only get the two, right.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's what the Thunder tried to do last night, was
short in the game and foul, and then we saw how.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That worked out for them.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I mean, granted, they could have let the guy for
the Nuggets get the ball pass half court before they
decided to foul instead of in the back court.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But yeah, I mean it's just.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Big players make big plays in the playoffs, and if
you don't have one of those clutch guys, then you're
in trouble because a lot of these games are very tight.
When then in the regular season you see a lot
of blowout wins.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, it's just it's.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Just fascinating to see a team that is up seven
points two straight games withinside a minute managed to squander it.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
But now for me, becomes mental warfare. It's happened to
you not once, yea twice. You gotta know, so where's
your love of confidence?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
You would just say that Cleveland's confidence now not just
with the players being out well losing twice the way
that you're doing. The confidence is now shattered. There's kind
of a disbelief that they can really pull this off.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Now you're down oh two and going to Indiana.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yes, lost those two games at home, at home in
front of a raucous crowd in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Man that.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I know Donovan mentioned was ticked off. I just gonna
believe the call that was made. I mean, what was
at an actual file because some of the guys swipe
through and around when it's trying to clear space.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
This is just one of those things where you know,
if you're the Cleveland calves. There's gotta be some sort
of mental barrier that you're sitting there and you're thinking,
no lead is safe, no matter what we do.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
No leader safe.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But it's not. That's the NBA within itself.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There's a sense of confidence I think you get from
you're an OKAC or whatever. You've been putting teams away
all year. You know, I don't think one game is
doing you in the calves.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Back to backgate O.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The way seven point leads with forty eight or fewer
seconds two games in a row to the.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Facers, that's wow.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So do you think because game one between the Nuggets
and ok See, I mean I had ok See winning
that game because they're at home. Yeah, and they've split
and I know that by the.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Nuggets because of the rust factor whatever will we won
for whatever way.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, Like you know, I got lucky on that way.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
And sometimes you know you win and how whatever fashion,
you're gonna win. But based on the fact that the
Nuggets pulling this game out the way that they did
to rally back, I know you can say the momentum
has shifted more towards the Nuggets. Has it shifted more
towards the Nuggets now they're playing with house money now
and you could say, you know what, Nuggets win the
(07:45):
series and it doesn't even go seven.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Maybe, But I'm just.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Saying, like, I don't think Okac is sweating that at all. Yeah,
we dropped on our court, but we know what we
can do. We're gonna go back out here.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
If they drop another one like that, then all of
a sudden, you get the same.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Shit up in scenario.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But I think right now, I think if you're Okay, see,
I think you have a confidence of what you accomplished
over the course of this season, what you just did
embarrassing the Grizzlies, I think there's still I think if
you're Cleveland, you're like, man, Bro, what do we gotta do?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And I wouldn't be surprised to see the Thunder come
out tomorrow night and eat us by twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right, I would not, like I believe that that Okac
will probably win tomorrow and they'll probably run it up.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's so important for the Nuggets in this series to
just stay within striking distance because they have the closers
and they have that championship experience that the Thunder don't have.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We saw it last year.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Against the Mavericks, like they had a better roster than
the MAVs, but the MAVs had Luca and he put
the team on their back. And that's the same thing
that Joker can do. And now Aaron Gordon's stepping up
like Jamal, we know how he can.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
He can play in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So if the Nuggets can keep it close within striking
distance like they did last night, I never thought they
were gonna win that game last night until that three
went in at the buzzer, Like, I never thought they
had a chance to win that game.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So tell me this, we remove the idea that we
live in Denver and everyone loves Nikola Yochus and the
Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
What would be a bigger story for.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
The association the fact that this younger thunder team, that
their organization went through several different iterations of players and
draft picks to rebuild this team. They got a young
kid out of Canada leading this team and it's really young,
or the Denver Nuggets known as though Wow, they went
on this amazing run after finding Michael Malone, which which
(09:32):
would be a bigger story for the association.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
See, I think I think it is the Nuggets just
because of firing Malone and Booth with three games left
in the season. We'd never seen that before on a
playoff team, So I think that is that's rewriting history.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think the thunder are close.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think they're there and they could end up winning
the series against the Nuggets and make their way all
the way to the NBA Finals. But the bigger story is, Wow,
they completely got rid of all of their the coach
and the GM, all the people in power, and they're
still making this run. Like, I think that's a huge storyline,
and it just adds to another reason why Yoki should
(10:09):
be the MVP, like he is the most valuable player on.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
A given team. Yeah, I don't think there's any question
about that, and I think we're on the same page there.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's just it's it's fascinating to sort of watch this
thing unfold. I think the Nuggets have the playoff experience,
the deep run playoff experience. It gives them an edge.
And okay, so he's just got the bodies to give
them an edge. It's going to be a question of
whether or not one can overcome the other.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
They you know, Grant is right.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
What we're seeing based on what we saw last night,
based on what we saw even in a series against
the Clippers, it's apparent. I mean, the Nuggets organization is
being fueled by one player and one.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Player only, and that's Nicola joki And.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That's why maximizing the window that he that you have
with him is so vital and so important, but also
making sure that you continue to surround him with players
where he doesn't feel as though he has to carry
the load every single night. I mean, could you imagine
at some point, I mean, these human bodies that we have,
they do wear down, they do break down, and I
(11:16):
would hate to see because we've seen a lot of
players go through this. I went through it on my
last couple of years. Your body starts to break down
and your mind wants it to do something that is
not capable of doing anymore, and then you see the
worst part of you at that stage of your career,
and people are like, oh, man, I remember he used
(11:38):
to do this, not anymore. And for me, I don't
want to see Nicola Jokic go down that path.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I don't think he'll get I mean, like he's still
technicing in his prime, and basketball players of his build
tend to be good till around thirty five. I mean,
there's declining production after thirty, but they tend to be
good until thirty five, and then the bottom kind of
falls out. You saw that happen with a punch guys
Joe Johnson, Vince Carter or whatever that hung around six
seven years after that, you gottas haslm not nearly the
players that they were at that point.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Still viable, but not. I don't think Yokic has the
passion for the.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Game that he's sitting there doing that with the body
he's breaking down, and he's still trying to.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Play, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And that's the thing when you when you say he
loves basketball, but there's other things that he loves more
than basketball. And I think at any point, if he
feels as though, you know, what I've done what I
need to do, I've got out of the game, what
I need to get out of that, he would kind
of be one of those players that just walk away.
You won't once he makes up his mind that he's
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walking away. Yeah, I don't think there is going to
be anyone that can actually tell him or try to
talk him back into well more.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
He's gonna go race horses and just be cool in Serbia,
you know, be a celebrity in Serbia. Of the rest
of his life, you know, like there's nothing he doesn't
need that he don't you know. I mean, he's done,
He's already won a championship. You know, at this point
he's he's playing to win championships. But I don't think
that the I don't think that it's all consuming for him.
There's other stuff in life where he's like, hey, look
when the body starts to give, I'm gonna go be
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with my daughters and racehorses.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Do you think sometimes sometimes the game gets a little
boring to him? And the reason I asked that question
because as dominant as as he has become, right a
guy coming off the bench to now being the face
of the franchise, and arguably you say he could be
the fate face of the association, But do you think
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it gets boring for him at some point? Like, man,
I know I can knock down the shot over you.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I think he already gets bored in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I do.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I think you can see it sometimes where he's just
going through the motions in a game, because you know,
the playoffs, a or a whole other season, and b
he's so dominant when he wants to be that there's
there's almost no reason for other reason for him to
not be performing at certain levels other than boredom it because.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Once again, I just I watch him sometimes and he
just so dominated him.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Like, well, what motivates him? What is he motive?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You think just winning?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you can go out and
get a trip or double at any moment, right, you
can knock down a forty burger. But what keeps him
in the game that he's like, well, I want to
go play this long NBA season multiple years.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
What is it that motivates it?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think there's something to represent. I think there's almost
a national pride for him. I think it's something to
representing contry for his country. No, but I mean I
think there's something to be representing on the world stage,
as you is Serbia putting an elite athlete in the
elitist league in the world. I think there's something to that.
You know, I think he's also I mean, like he's
the breadwinner for his family. You know, have you seen
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how big his brothers are, you know much food they eat?
You see them dudes, like they're his brothers are like,
you know, bigger than he is.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, the seven pounds you know what food them dudes eat,
and not just his fam his direct family, his entire town.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, Like there are stories of him like evating things
just in the city of the town where he's from
because he can.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, so I think he carries a different weight on
his shoulders than you know than so. I mean, there
are guys that can understand that, certainly for being the
breadwinner for their family of family town, like their dudes
that can understand that here. But I think it's it's
it's different when your country doesn't produce dudes like that,
you're the dude.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
But see that once again, that's an immense amount of
pressure on one individual because you're elevating your country all
while in another country playing a sport that you love,
and then there's pressure associated with him being the kohli
jokis being that person to get guys going, Just like
(15:43):
I asked Ryan Blackburn, and I'll be like, I'm seeing
the Kohlak in an entirely different way because now seeing
him like he's coaching.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's what it's gonna say.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
He's coaching that team and that's not falling on deaf years.
I don't know if you guys saw the video circulating
earlier today online, but those dudes are locked in when
he's talking, like they are. You know a lot of
times in an NBA huddle you'll see a coach talking
uns players, So yeah, just looking away getting their drinks
and stuff. The dudes are locked in when he's talking.
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He is the coach of that team right now. But
I got to give credit to David Adaman too, because
he's whatever he's preaching is working right now for the
Nuggets to get them motivated game in and gave him, Man,
you think.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It's pretty much like, hey, Nicole, you guys have to
say go ahead and see it.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah at the end, and he's finding the balance between
letting Nicola be the in game architect and the guy
that's sitting and him being the guy who's running practices
and whatever else. I don't know that David Adaman's the
long term answer for a head coach here at Denver.
I know it's winning, it's a good story and all that,
but as you watch Nicole Yokic kind of coach that
team in games, I think that's not lost on the
powers that be in terms of what it is that
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they want to do going forward. We got to hit
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Speaker 2 (17:12):
With that, let's get to the NFL six Pack. It's
time for the NFL sixth pad.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm gonna trade the last year insight and insight information
you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Six the top six NFL headlines what.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Broncos linebacker Alex Singleton played one hundred and ninety defensive
snaps last season, with forty nine of those coming after
you tore at ACL. Singleton injured his knee in the
eighth play of the Week three win over the Tampa
Bay Bucks on September twenty second. Didn't miss a snap
in the game, but the injury did end the rest.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Of his season. He gave Zach Stevens of DNVR.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Promising update today, saying quote, it's good.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I feel like I'm on schedule. It's feeling really good.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I'm working my way into doing things with the guys,
which has been the most important thing to kind of
be on that timeline with everybody else during this offseason.
I'm able to do that full speed ahead from me.
We're just going to keep attacking this thing like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Excited for the season.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Singleton doesn't have a timeline when doctors will clear them
to return to football activities, but promises to be on
the field for week one, saying quote, I still can't
technically fully say, but let's just say that there should
be no worries about forty nine playing this year.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I will be out there.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Singles Let has work with a team's VP of Player
Health and Performance, Ball Lowry every day since his surgery.
October fifteenth, post a video of his Instagram. First a
video to Instagram him running full speed. What do we
think about Alex Singleton? Maybe be it back and ready
to go week one, especially with the news about Drake
Greenlaw having tweaked himself just a little bit working out as.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
A guy that's been injured twice. From a NIE standpoint,
I think you have to be really careful. And this
is where the team is going to have to manage
both green Law and Alex Singleton because as players, all
we want to do is play. I mean, grab a Bendets,
Doug tap in the paper club and send us back
out there. But for this team to be as successful
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as they are hoping to be I make a deep
playoff run, they're gonna need every single guy as healthy
as they can, and they just gotta make sure they
just bring them alone slowly.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Two Quarterback Desmond Ridder remains a free agent, but we'll
get a tryout this weekend. Ridder, we'll throw at the
Broncos mini camp. Broncos currently have Jared Stidham and Sam
Ailinger behind bow Nicks. Ridder can become a free agent
in March after the became a free agent March, rather
after the Raiders did not tender a contract to him
as a restricted free agent. Falcons had bade Ridder a
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third round pick in twenty twenty two, and they traded
him to the Cardinals a year ago. He didn't make
the cut to fifty three Raiders sign him off Arizona's
practice squad with Aidan O'Connell went on the IR In October,
O'Connor returned, but Ridder stuck around became because Gardner Minshew
went down for the season. Ridder made one start, which
came a week fifteen against the Falcons his old team,
appeared in five other games. Was fifty two of eighty
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five or four hundred and fifty eight yards with two
touchdowns and two interceptions last season, and started eighteen games
in three seasons, including thirteen for the Falcons in twenty
twenty three, sixteen touchdowns fourteen interceptions in his career. What
do we think about Desmond Ritter getting a tryout this weekend?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I like the fact of ritigant in tryout. I mean,
he has a very unique.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Skill set and let's not forget he was a guy
who was heavily drafted when he first came out.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
The talent is still there. It's about being.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
In the right place that's willing to kind of give
you that opportunity to settle down and develop. And when
you out from team to team, that can really get
a problem because teams start to have that frame of
mind like, oh, he's a journeyman and that's how they
look at you. But Jared Stidham, for me personally, should
not be the only person who was considered to.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Be a backup to both Nicks.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
To add some competition would only make Jared Stidham that
much better.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, you got Stidham, you got Sam Ailinger and now
Desmond Ridder.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I am not a big fan of Dissmon Ritter.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Didn't like him coming out of Cincinnati, didn't like him
with the Falcons, and didn't like him when he gave
the game to the Denver Bronck and when he was
with the Raiders there. But you know, end of the day,
I mean, if Sean Payton thinks he can turn him
into something, I mean, at least try to get something
out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Right, who do you like more? Ellinger or Ritter Ellinger Nick?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
He's already established that.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
But for me, I need to see both of these
guys this week to kind of give you give each
guy for the chance.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
That's my take. But but Bean has already talked.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Now, I'm not a writer.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
I'm not. I'm not. I don't want to say that.
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I wanted to say, well, give me a little more
and then I can make a fair judgement.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I've proved me wrong. If you want otherwise, we're
gonna get rid of you. Three got these jokes.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Bill Belichick conducts a book event at ny you with
no obvious holes in his clothing.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That was so weird. Yeah. Bill Belichick is second.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That anyone knows of event related to his new book
happened to today as scheduled for now, there's a little
available evidence as to how it all went. However, radio
host Zach Gelb, who explained his cousin was present for
the NYU community only session, posted any video of Belichick's entrance, and.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
He was wearing no clothes with holes in them.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Gelb noted there was no immediate sign of his girlfriend,
slash handler slash publicist Jordan Hudson. Gilb added that any
questions to Belichick had.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
To be submitted in advance.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Hopefully no one asked something really intrusive, like what's your
favorite color. There's nothing on YouTube yet about the conversation.
Nothing else we found out about it, how it all went,
and all that kind of stuff on social media. And
this follows is now notorious CBS interview which included an
unconvincing explanation of his decision not to mention Patriots owner
Robert Kraft and an instruction from an off camera Jordan
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Hudson not to answer the question of how he and
Hudson met while he wore a Navy jersey with a
large hole in it. It remains to be seen whether
he will be submitting to other interviews in his effort
to sell the book. When we think about Bill Belichick's
CBS interview and the fact that he's now asking questions
to be submitted in advance before he does public appearances.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Only thing I can say is, holy moly, right, holy moly,
what's kind of going on?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Look?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I mean, Bill Belichick can live his life the way
that he wants to live. But as we all know,
when you are a very popular coach and you live
in the spotlight, everyone is looking for stories. They're looking
for angles, and you can't provide them the fact that you're.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
On you know, was it sixty minutes or whatever it was?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, And they ask you about the obvious about your
girlfriend who's not too far away, and she says that,
you know what, we're not talking about that. Well, I'm sorry,
what what is going on that's going to become a story.
But we know, just like rap artists, has got to
be a beef to sell the album. So maybe this
is a strategic ploy by Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Grant has already volunteered to be the drake to my
Kendrick Lamar when I released my rap album Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm a lover not a fighter.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Right there, it is four oh the weirdest story of
the day.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
An unnamed Colorado fan has filed a lawsuit in the
NFL over the draft week free fall of quarterbacks Schador Sanders.
The lawsuit, which carries the various stamps and marketings to confirmed.
It actually was filed in federal court in Atlanta on
May first and processed on May second, uses the John
Doe pseudonym.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's the first indication that it's a stunt.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Obviously makes a mockery of the circumstances in which the
identity of plaintiffs justify for.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Seding in anonymity.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
The plaintiff in preceding both pro se which means representing
himself and inform of operas, which is citing financial inability
to pay the filing fee of four hundred and five dollars.
The language of the document displays a very basic understanding
of the civil justice system given the way it was.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Formatted and typed.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
The lawsuit alleges reports and leaked statements suggested that Sanders
tanked interviews, wasn't prepared, and was too cocky, which contributed
to a narrative that unjustly harmed his reputation and player
potential as a player. Quote the slanderous comments reflects bias
that influenced the NFL's decision making process caused emotional distress
and trauma to the plaintiff as a fan and customer,
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the complaint contends.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
The lawsuit cites violation.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Of the sherp and antitrust to act in the form
of collusion among teams to influence the draft process and
subsequent low selection of Sudor Sanders, which amounts to quote,
a conspiracy to restrain trade and limit competition within the league.
Also allegens the NFL violated the Civil Rights Act because
the decisions made regarding Standers may have been influenced by
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racial discrimination. And finally, the lawsuit claims the NFL violated
consumer protection laws because the NFL may engage in unfair
practices by misrepresenting the nature of the draft process and
the qualification of the players.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
The plaintive claims these actions caused.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Severe emotional distress and trauma to him, resulting in frustration, disappointment.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Psychological harm.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The lawsuit proceeds to point the NFL will be required
to respond. However, even if the claims could be proven,
for something like.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
This, a fan, we have no state to sue.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
There's no conceivable legal right any fan could have to
be compensated for a potential violation of the rights as
a player.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
So it's basically a stunt.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But it's also kind of embarrassing for Colorado to do this.
First of all, camp Warden was selected number one overall,
so I don't think you're gonna get the racial bias
thing going. And if not, Jaylen Morro was also selected
before shed or Sanders.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So the racial bias things you've got out the window. Why, like,
why would you even do this? Because you live in America.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
It's a free country.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
You can do things like that even if they seem
ridiculous to someone else.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
And homids and tell someone.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
They can't exercise their right to take their folly and
the fifty dollars to follow what one hundred million dollars lawsuit.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
I mean not to say about.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Look, Coach Prime can't fooling anybody with this, John Doe, fot.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I was just gonna say I didn't know Nick went
by the suitor name of God, John Doe.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
First of all, if I'm gonna have a pseudo name,
it's not gonna be Damn John.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Is it gonna be something a little more flashy like
'ron Mexico. No, I'm not gonna tell you what it is.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
So so so once something comes.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Out against you, Ben, yeah, I'm waiting for it down
know now I know when I go to court, I
know exactly what to look for, and you've let me
in on your you thing.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
The rest of these are going to be about Shudor Sanders.
So five Shudor Sanders.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The Browns announce shud Or Sanders will wear jersey number
twelve and that DeAndre Carter will.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Wear Sanders signature number two.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Should order missed out on the signature jersey number he's
worn his entire career. Sanders has worn the deuce his
entire career. Number two landed with the ninth year wide
receiver DeAndre Carter, who arrived in Cleveland this year after
one year stint on the.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Bears practice squad.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Carter, who's seniority I guess factored into the selection, is
also note one numbers one to three eleven, fourteen, sixteen, nineteen, nine,
eighty two throughout his career. Sanders number two was retired
to Colorado along with Travis Hunter twelve.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Before the spring game in April.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Adjudging from what Instagram account, however, the Sanders account may
not be happy if with this turn of events. Boogie
Night reportedly post today now deleted complaint on his Instagram
story that there's no way the Browns should have given
number two to anyone else, especially a wide receiver who
has an ever warn number two in his career. But
we knew that was coming, so we ate flinching about it. It
was expected to take it, smile, and then make it
make it legendary.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
All caps keep going.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Night, of course, as a member of Sanders media team,
the Browns noted that the rookies will be rocking these numbers
to our camp and are subject to change before the season.
Like dude, DeAndre Carter is probably not even going to
make the Browns team do we think this was a
ploy to again continue to sort of humble Chador Sanders
or whatever. He's wearing Travis Hunter's old number twelve now obviously,
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But do we think this was some sort of ploy
because DeAndre Carter. I mean, like, look, I get the
seniority thing, but end of the day, Carter's not.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Going to make this team. It'll be on the practice
squad and Chador will get the number anyway.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
See, I don't think it was a ploy from a
racist standpoint.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't think a racial standpoint. I thought I was
just saying, well.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, they kind of kind of squander standers. But I
think the Cleveland Browns and their organization understands that this
is on tap market that they're fooling around with.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
So the more publicity that you have, even if it's negative.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
The better.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
The better it is, Like Carl is probably not gonna
make the team, and you get men in door a
twelve now, which he could later end up wearing two.
But guess what it could be. I guess you could say, well,
it's homage to Travis.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Hunter or Tom Brace, Tom Brady, who's his mentor, So
why do you should mention that.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Six?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Tom Brady says he wasn't even part of the evaluation
on Shudor Sanders. The aftermatha drafts, some old comments from
Tom Brady emerged, during which he advised quarterback Shador Sanders
to quote get his ass in the film room and
spend as much time there as possible, and less time
in the.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Car, more time in the film room.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
In an appearance on The Impulsive podcast, Brady was asked
why Sanders went so late in the draft. Brady's standard
and stammered and struggle before offering up a general denial
of involvement in by implication knowledge, saying there's dot dot dot.
I I it's a good question. I was part of
any evaluation process or to see that. One of the
hosts interjected and said, skip. Bayliss says otherwise. Quote Brady
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came back and said, I know, well everyone's got every
you know, that's the problem with the medias.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Everyone could just say whatever the bleep they want.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
The clip then jumps to Brady's saying I actually texted
Shador because I know him very well, and I said, dude,
like whatever happens wherever you go, that's your first day.
Day two matters more than the draft. I was picked
number one ninety nine. Brady said, yeah, so who could
speak on it better than me? Like what that really means?
Use it as motivation. You're going to get your chances
to take advantage of it. As to Bradzy claimed that
he wasn't part of the evaluation process, many will not
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be buying what he's selling. In December, Ian Ramp report
quoted Raiders owner Mark Davis is saying that Brady will
quote have a huge voice in the organization when it
comes to.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Picking the quarterback in quote. So there's that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Brady was clearly involved in the evaluation of selection of
quarterback Cam Miller in round six. So common sense suggests
that he was just treading lightly so as not to
undermine his relationship. That said, the Raiders passed on Sanders
seven times and with their last non centers pick coming
only nine spots before his slide into one forty four.
Do we believe Tom Brady had no voice in the
evaluation process.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
I'll agree with that to.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
A certain amount, because since he's so close to the situation,
we all thought that, oh, that was going to be
a shoe in. And also, when you think about Chip Kelly,
that was also that ties in. But for me, this
could have been a situation that Brady said, look, I'm
too close to it, right, I'll do the evaluation everyone else.
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I can give you my input on your door, but
the decision ultimately is going to be the decision of
peak L.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So that may be a little true to it.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But I'm sure he has some conversations with Shador as
talking about like the video that's now resurfacing, when everyone
was like, oh, okay, see see this is even Tom
Brady to go telling him to do certain things. Well,
once again, we all know, let's be full transption, be
transparent about the situation. When we were younger and we
were in that type of situation that Shador found himself in,
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I mean, there was a sense of pride, there was
a sense of young arrogance. That doesn't necessarily mean that
that guy is arrogant and he's going to be a
problem as people indicate it. But I'm sure Tom probably
told him. But at the same time, Tom had his
moment to live his draft situation and he wanted to
give it.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
However that looked like, what's your.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Door, this is your situation?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Am I gonna tell you what to do with it.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I'll give you advice here and there, but it's on
you and your father decide.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
How are you going to navigate this?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, I think and I think Brady threaded that needle
as best he could.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yeah, that's all you can do.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You know, we've had a couple of texts coming on
the text line several times that somebody asked if there's
a plan to add competition for Alex Singleton.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well, they already added Drake green Law.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I think, you know, I think this rookie camp, you're
sort of looking to see if any of these guys
you mentioned a couple we talked about the other days
in the udfas have the opportunity to do that. Drew
Sanders is obviously gonna get it, opportunity to be in
there start odd. You know, there's gonna be some guys
that'll have opportunities to do that. It's not a lot
that Singleton makes this roster, but I think that's sort
of They've got four or five guys and that's maybe
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one of these udfas, and I think those guys will
all work to try to to to unseat him. I
guess as it were.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, I mean once Again, that's how the NFL works.
That's why they have a draft, That's why they have
free agency every single year because they're trying to find
ways to replace you. Now is up to you to
make that job very difficult and that decision difficult for them.
And when you're coming off injury, yeah, everyone is looking.
Everyone wants to see, well, when Alex gets back out there,
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is he still operating at full capacity as though he
was before the injury, And everyone's gonna, you know, be
waiting with baited bread on the moment of first contact.
It's the same way that people watch practice with Javonte
and we start moving around and was like, oh my god,
I mean, how long was it since his injury and
now he's moving around like this. That's how they're going
to look at Alex Singleton. So look, I've been there before.
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I've been in a position where people have doubted you.
I've been there where people have doubted you in secret
but try to love you up in person. So it's
going to be in coming on Alex to go out
there and make sure that he does what he needs
to do and his body holds up.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah. I And it'll be fascinating to see how that
rule shakes out.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I mean, Greenlaw tweaked himself a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Singleson's coming back off the injuries and he got a
youth movement back there.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
They'd like to see. Uh see Marge Bronco's country tonight.
I get for this. The job is down him. You
can go home now