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May 8, 2025 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And the Cardinals select a brand new pope from Chicago.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Can't wait till he starts talking about prayers.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Of all that memes, I had not heard that yet
to Yeah, it was They got it what kind of
together on day two, which means that shed Or Sanders
waited even longer to be picked than the pope did.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
That's blasphemy, man, that's blasphemy.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Be very very very careful.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
But Pope Leo, yes, it took him two days they
figured it out. I was hoping that it did not
go into the weekend because that would have made things
really interesting. But if I'm not mistaken, Pope Leo is
the first American pope?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Is he not first one ever? I believe? So? Wow?
I mean do we like really do we? Can't we
celebrate that? Is that a celebrator? I mean I'm not
a Catholic, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't know not either, so but I mean just
I mean, he's American, He's one of us, right right,
So it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, thumbs up and given thumbs up.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
I don't yeah, no, I I mean you know, I
think he was wasn't he like born knowing like Philadelphia
or something?

Speaker 4 (01:26):
He went to Villanova for college, so I assume somewhere
in that area. Okay, but yeah, then was in Chicago.
He's a White Sox fan, apparently not a Cup fan.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, as to say, because there was rumors going both
ways about that, and that is a big thing. If
you ever lived to Chicago, which I have, that is
a huge That's huge, huge, that's huge. Yeah, there's a
there's a vast, vast dividing line there between Chemisky and Wrigley.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I you know, I don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
To get too much into this. I just thought it
was kind of funny that, you know, it was one
of those things they got They got that done pretty
quick though normally that takes a little longer normally it does.
But no day and age, what are you trying to
figure out?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I mean, every guy who's you know, the Conclay gets
together to decide who's going to be the next next pope.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Every guy in their own right is I mean worthy
are they not?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
And they're just trying to You're just trying to figure
out because you're just carrying the word of God across
I guess contents.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So now we don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, I mean, but if it drags on, it could
be embarrassing. Not as embarrassing as a Rockies double header
today or the Nuggets last night, but it could be embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
If it dragged on. Yeah, why do you even want
to start with that? Like, well, you know what, if.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's a double header for the Rockies, we just go
ahead and start with it.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
We started and we ended the same way. Right.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It's both games were rough outings. I mean, Kyle Friedla
in that first game, I mean quickly the Tigers got
out and they had like seven runs. It's like, wait
a minute, the game just started.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
We kind of have hope for a little bit longer.
That's how I felt watching the Nuggets last night too.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Though.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, I've been outscored twenty one to three today, and
if you if you combined, if you combined all of
the Rockies runs from that three game series, it would
not have won them any of the games today.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But nine runs in three games.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
The lowest Detroit scored was eight in that first game
on Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I thought, about two weeks ago, the Rockies fired their
hitting coach, right, because that was supposed to be the problem, right,
The hitting coach was the reason.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't think it was the coach. That's what you do.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Hit.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, it's like, now at this point, what do you
fire now? Right?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean I tell you know who you're I mean
we all know.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Everybody gets won.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Everybody gets won the obvious, right, obvious, the obvious. But
would that change anything? What has change anything? He had
two players that are hitting above two fifty. Man, they
got two two players that.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Are hitting above two fifty, which is considered average to bad.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Okay, So so what do you make of this statement?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Because someone said this to me on social media when
I made a video talking about the Megas game, that
it was David Adam's fault.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right, it was his fault. The outcome was what it was.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Now, man, I see you there with the twisted face
a little bit so, so so what you think it
was on your mind?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I don't understand how we're blaming the grown up
gerber baby for because that's what he was.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Like, I'm sorry, what did you call me?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
He looks like he looks like the gerber baby grew up. Dude, Like,
with all due respect to coaching, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
It looks like the place beside the side by side.
I'm just I'm just.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Saying, you know, he's yeah, it is a striking resemblance
about it.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Just now, wait a minute, now, now you're to forced
me to actually look it up and compare.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
The Gerber baby could grow a little beard and get
a little bonding spot like Ben's got in the back.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
That right back there, yeah, gap in the little gap
in the teeth right CAP's.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
A little bigger.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Just saying.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm gonna see hoo, it's actually look at ye.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
This was David Adaman's fault that the Nuggets went lost
by forty three points. Forty three points, that's just getting spanked, dude.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
And honestly, it wasn't even that close. It really was,
you know, like.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Like I took the Nuggets plus twelve and a half again,
I was safe, man, I wasn't even safe after the
first quarter.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
So what do you think about this whole concept? Because
I also.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Heard this too in the game where you are being
blown out that a coach should take his players out.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Of the game kind of did that. He just kept
fouling to foul that. He was like, all right, cool,
I got something for this.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, what do you think ran in that case
in the game like this, do you take your starters out?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Well, we were texting about it last night when we
were all watching the game, and I said, under six
in the third quarter, I would have taken everyone.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Get you go midway through the third quarter if you're
still down thirty at that point, there's not there's no
give it a little run at the beginning of the
second half. See if you can call back, let'le get
it within twenty five twenty. But they just kept piling
it off.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
See I'm a little different.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Especially going game seven games though the series before and
then two games two days.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
You're about to go home for two games. Yeah, tired, Yeah,
that's what that was. I mean, that's what it was.
You've tired.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You've been playing non stop for how many weeks? Meanwhile,
they basically I mean the okay se could have gone
to can Kun for a week while they were waiting
on the.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Number of their finishers. Well hold on. So it's the
same thing the Lakers and Can't count on three could have.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
But the Nuggets went seven games. Right, There's there's no
nothing in the bylaws that says that the game has
to go seven games.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
So yes, I'm not talking about it.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I mean, yeah, the rest would have been great for them,
but the players could be gatstroll that.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
But for me, I think I take more of a
maybe Mike, I'm alone approach to it.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Right in a game like last night, I know everyone's screaming, okay,
take them out of the game, take them out of
the game. But I'm like, no, hell, you put us
in this situation. I want to see you fight, claw
and dig to get us back out and make the
game somewhat reasonable.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's a regular season mentality. Yeah, they did not do that. Also,
they've got another game coming up here at all, Like,
just can't get that body as much healing and as
rest as you can.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
So regular season mentality postseasontalitly it is different.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
So take them out of the game, let them rest up.
I know that's kind of the idea. Oh, let him
get the rest. I'm like, no, hey man.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Apparently you should have used some energy in this particular game,
but you didn't. Now you allow okay see to score
eighty seven points almost ninety points before they have.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, that's ridiculous, was it? And yeah it was? It
was what eighty seven to what thirty five? Fifty fifty
sixth don't even remember it was.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
But honestly, like, okay, se could not miss a shot. Yeah,
I mean they were just on fire, you know, and
they were getting the little all the loose balls, yeah,
and you know and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
But I mean, was that mean grant? They were hustling exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
So you tell me in a game where you knew that,
guess what you won on the Aaron Gordon three point
shot to win the game? Won the row ched Honger
missed two free throws, and the thunderfell fell apart down
the stretch. You knew they were going to come out
ready to play because you split.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
During the season, so you had to come in the game.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Mentally knowing, at least I hope from a player and
coaching standpoint, hey man, these guys have a punch of chance.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
We've seen them. They also thirty three to thirty six
free throws. I mean, they were just it was it
was just not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Ca was eleven of thirteen from the field and like
eight of eight from the free throw line, eleven eleven
eleven from the free Well, I when I told, when
I texted you guys, and said I'd take the starters
out right here with the under six in the third quarter.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
That's when I turned the channel. Yeah, well Nicola did too.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
No, I'm just like at the end of the day,
when you get to that point, when you get to
that point again, like, why not.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Put the backup stand Let's get.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Them warmed up, get them fired up, get get them
some minutes, get them, get them comfortable.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
They need them a little bit more in this series.
I totally get that.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
And the Nuggets did empty the bench and there was
some quality points from the guys in quite minutes for
those guys. But still at the same time, I am
still of the frame of mind the veterans, the five
starters did not play well. I need you guys to
end somewhat on a high note. So going into game three, yeah,

(09:38):
you back at ball arena and ideas that their Nuggets
are going to bounce back. But I need you guys
to show me that and bring that energy so you
can carry that over instead of taking them out on
the low. So you take them out on the low,
you still lose the game to get blown out, but
at least let them go out on a positive.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
There's no positive note of then, but you're down like
forty points. There's no positive beginning. What do you to do?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Lob one up for a dunk in the mid right
and a couple three is and now you're only down.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
To forty two. Yeah, now we can go sit because
for me, well, this is just the way I feel.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Right. Obviously those shots wouldn't have changed the outcome of
the game, but you want to make sure that you
end on a high note because you're taking that playing
ride back from OKC back here to Denver.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right, what do you what are you resting on when
you played? Like crap? Oh, you know what? It's one one,
a serious one one. We have an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
But I think it's the opposite. I think it's better
that it went out as bad as it did. Like,
I think this is better than how the Celtics loss
and heartbreaking fashion again to the Knicks. I think it's
better that they got blown out because now they are
going to come back angry. Yeah, and they are gonna
They did end on a low note, so they're gonna
come out high. For deep on that misery, Nick, I
want you to feel we sucked.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
We got blown out by half a century in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I want you to I want that to a marinade
like it's on the crock pot for two days.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm not eating that food. Just say that. Put that juice.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
So the idea is hoping that this loss was so
egregious that it's just going to inspire the Nuggets to
come out and.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Be much better.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, but here's what you know, here's here's what you
do know. Okay, that you barely beat Okay, see in
the first game.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
The second game they blew you out.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
So you're thinking, okay, well, this loss was so bad,
so bad that it's going to inspire everyone.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Even m p J. Right just to score the first
we gotta pull him out of the light.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
He's a wounded bird out there. Looks like, you know,
just shoot a three. It looks like a wounded swan.
Shoot the option to take him out though we don't
have enough depth.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
You slide, you slide Murray over the two.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
You put Westbrook in there, and then you're gonna have
to rotate one of strawthor and wats that are gonna
have to come.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
In do something. Grant. You just can't have a wounded
bird out there.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Man. Yeah, i'd say, give him another shot. He's got
another two days of rest.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Farbasists, Man, come on, get a shot, go to the ball.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Grant is like, don't worry about this way you did,
don't worry about signing about just to sign your name
to it.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Just sign Varsity Blues, all right, five six, six.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Nine year olds of text slat you guys would to
get involved in the in the conversation. But but honestly,
I think they win tomorrow night too.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I think you're one in one of the series right now.
You know, like like wash that.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I mean, like sit there and go back and watch
that with like four times so you know what it
feels like, and then make sure you got that whole Yeah,
we're letting that happen again.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That ain't ever happened again.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Okay, I know the idea is you could say that
you're never gonna let it happen again, but you're playing
against a defensive team that that's one of the better
defensive teams as.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
A young group in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So whatever David aldam is plan is, it better work
to perfection. Because some of those shots that the Nuggets
made in game one were not falling in Game two
and I don't know what kind of defensive scheme that
they were running, but it was allowing for a lot
of those baseline three point shots and those little Ali

(13:19):
loops are you know those putbacks off the rim because
it seemed like they were trying to clog the lane
and force Okac into a jump shooting team.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
But guess what.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And on the other end, I think the Nuggets had
a lot of wide open looks that they just missed.
I mean Christian Brown and Michael Porter.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Junior Brown was horrendous wide open shots over and over again.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I think those shots fall at home at Ballerina.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Brown was barely even there.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, that was the worst time. In six minutes, he
had three points on one to six shooting and a
pair of turnovers.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Speaking of turnovers, people here in Denmon are not gonna
like it, but I mean facts are facts. Over the
past two games, Nicole has had like thirteen turnles.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yes it's six and that game teen. Yep, He'll do
a little homework. People are seeing how their guarden.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
The people are starting to get into the passing like
they know to put their hands up in the passing
lanes because they know what he's gonna do. I think
he's just got to shoot it. Well, he's more authorting,
he needs to more authoritative.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Go to the rock.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
He's got sixty from Joker.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
So now Joker has to be selfish, which is not
his nature.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
He has to be selfish like a lot of people.
He has a shellfish allergy. I'm sorry. Selfis challenger. He
has to be selfish.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
He has to take uh Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan type
of attitude to hell with everyone else. I'm not giving
you the ball if you're not gonna make it. If
you make if you missed two in a row, guess what.
I don't care if they trip between me. I'm still
shooting it.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
It's like Peyton Manning when he whenever receiver would drop
a ball, I'm not throwing it to you anymore.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
You're dumb. You're done. You're dumb for that. I don't
even see that side of the.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's that type of thing. So we talked about it
the other night.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
This is an opportunity or a time where Nikola Jokis
has to be selfish if he's going to take the
team where they need to, and once again, it is
his team. It's not him and Jamal. It is Nicola.
Jokis See, he's got to be damn selfish.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
But I also think Jamal's got to be more selfish too.
I think he's just got to take some tougher shots,
whether he's open.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Or not, because he can knock him down.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, and to be fair, he was probably their most
effective weapon three or five from downtown in that game.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Nicola took sixteen shots. He led the team in field
goal attempts.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You see Spider Mitchell's stat line the other day, thirty
shots from the field. That's what Joker has to do
in Game three. Yeah, I mean, I think that has
to be the magic number. And you got because you're
going to have to. They've got that rotating cast of
the two big fellas that they've got and your Heartstein
and Home, and you got to get them in foul trouble,

(15:57):
not letting them get you in foul trouble.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
But you know what, there's something unique about what teams
are doing to Jokich that he's been doing for a while.
The people are catching on and if he doesn't change it,
it's going to be bad for him and the Nuggets,
whether they win this series or not, and I'll tell

(16:19):
you about it later.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
All right, Well, we got to hit a break and
that's a hell of a tes. We'll come back and
we'll get to it. Nick's got to say, right, Dason
Broncos Country Night Breaker on Kwick This Country Tonight, menzebent Olbrighten,
Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with your five six, six
nine zero.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Is the text line.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Guys, if they remade Major League today, would the Rockies
have to be the team? Yes, yes, you know. I'm
I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
There were two eras that took place in the first game,
and the first thing I thought was major League.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's the first thing I thought about. We suck again.
That's a water bake. But I will right, yeah. I
just who on a Rockies.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Team has their Joe Bull. That's why I'm wondering who's
got the Joe Bull because it definitely look I hate
it to make this comparison, but when I saw the
first ERA and I was like okay, And then I
saw the second one, sure stop and I was like, oh,
I mean can I And I was thinking to myself,

(17:28):
can I actually say this aloud? And I was like, yeah,
that looks like major League.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Look, if Aliens came down right now, the Rockies would
be the last team because they couldn't make contact with
that either.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Oh man, I hate to beat up on the Rockies
because it's so easy.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
One of those guys. Here's one hundred times the talent
I'm ever gonna have.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
But at the end of the day, you're just like, God,
can we not be embarrassingly bad?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Look?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Man, I I'm rooting for the Rockies, truly, I am.
I'm rooting for but black because is mean for everyone
around every other major League team to look at the
Rockies and look at Rockies fans and go like, ah,
you're a Rockies fan. I want them to experience some
kind of joy. I mean, what what can that look like?

(18:15):
Is that winning five games in a row? Is that
winning ten games in a row?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Get crazy? Here, Let's let's win three games in a row.
How about that.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I'm just saying, like, like, what's the highest highest point?
That's all I'm throwing out there. What's the highest point?
And I'm just thinking, me being me, set the bar high, right,
set the bar high, so you have something to aim
and achieve for. I know, grat you say three game
three game winning streak. That that that's enough, right? Would
that be enough to make you happy?

Speaker 4 (18:49):
It would make me so pumped if they swept a series,
like if they like.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
They don't even care, if it's like the White Sox, No,
it does not matter. Just just three in a row,
that would be. That would make me so.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm a I'm a Rockies fan.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I've been to like five games already this year, seeing
three wins of the six.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Then there's sixty percent when you're there, you out the
more games problem. Hey, if the Rockies want a sponsorship,
here a little deal I could do that.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
We have Grand Smith's Mustache Night with glue one mustaches
for everybody comes in first to the gate.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
We don't have Charlie Blackman anymore.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
We got to do something. We go one. Oh he's
waiting when you're out there.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I'm just saying I'm a very optimistic person by nature,
and I hate to see this type of a crumble.
And that's why I'm like, if it's not what cookies, thanks, Yes,
if they can put that together, that means that if
I say ten games, if they can do that, that
means that they've won not one but two series, and
I think this city and his fan base would.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Be happy about that.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I said, you know, talking about being optimistic, I said,
after they went five and twenty five, they were gonna
go twenty five and five in their next thirty. They
are not headed out to right, They've already lost six
of their first seven games of the next thirty. It's
hard to be optimistic man, realistically. I mean, I'm sure
you feel the same way as a player or a manager.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Of that club.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Like this shows you how real momentum and sports is,
you know, positive or negative. We are thirty seven games
into the season and the Rockies are fifteen and a
half games.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Back of the last wild card spot. That's bananas. That
is freaking bananas.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Every team in Major League Baseball has at least ten wins,
all right, except the rus.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
So, So think about this now, with everything that we're saying,
looking at the Rockies record. If you're a player, you
bub black, you're on that Rocky staff, well, you when
you go into games, not practice, When you go into
a game, you're thinking what.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Right, well you think of what?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Like, like your level of optimism is high into the
first pitch.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Have you ever been on a really bad team. Any level, Yes,
my level of op Like, when are you asking when
I know they're going to lose?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I wake up in the morning and I'm like, they
have a game today.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I'm just saying, when you when you're walking in or
you're driving in, right, where do you think that the
level optimism is at before it just crumbles?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Well?

Speaker 4 (21:17):
I think I think baseball players have a very unique
mindset because they are able to put a game behind
them that happened the previous day, because they do have
one hundred and sixty two games for the year. But
when that first thing goes wrong, like you were talking
about that first air, then you just think your mind
starts going and you're like, I've been on some really
bad teams in the past. Like once that first thing

(21:38):
goes wrong, you're like, Okay, what's going to go wrong next?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And then well you're talking, Yeah, you're talking about quick
like I was.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Never on any bad teams because I was on those teams,
so they couldn't be bad.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, slide.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
But I mean like, yeah, that's a quick sand mentality.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Man.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
What you know, where you've not you have an.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Emotional or a mentally fragile team you've not ever experienced success,
and so you get.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
To the point.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's just when we talk about losing culture in football,
you talk about organizations like the Browns Allions. Until you
have a breakthrough and the Lions have done that, you
that stuff manifest. Man, it just keeps going, Oh, here
we go again, until you sweep that mentality out of
your locker room completely.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
It sits there, infesters.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
That's why I just put the biggest what if out there.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
As ridiculous as it sounds, for the Rockies.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
To just win two back to back series and that
ten to nine games whatever, Now, for me, that would
establish that they've broken out of the run. That's telling
them that, look, we can play with most of the
teams in this league, but it has to take something
like that to break them out of this run. It
can't just be like, oh, they win three games and
all of a sudden, all this for gotten.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, the multiple Orioles have a minus sixty six run differential.
They are the closest team to the Rockies negative ninety
one run differential.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Through thirty seven games.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
They are on pace to go over a negative four
hundred almost three a game, which would be the worst
all time.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, did you get upset as if being a
pitcher and just say, you know what, I'm just hitting one.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
With the ball.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
They had Alan Trejo pitched the last inning. If you
don't know him, he is a backup shortstop for the Rockies.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
That's bad.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean you were in a doubleheader, so yeah, but
if that game's close, you know who's pitching your closer, well.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
That rock backup.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Let me put this, you could have bet you could
have laid two and a half runs every game this
year and you would have been like nineteen and eighteen.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I think on the seat you would and it's already
plus money.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Bet you would be way in the money if you
had laid two and a half runs every game this season.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Hey man, you know, maybe maybe bub Black was taking
a David Adaman approach like he like you suggested rest
those starters, right, let.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Us have the guys to get some plays and rested
all year. What are they rested for?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
They resting for that ten game run manifesting right.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Now, I'm trying to it into existence.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I couldn't even wear any of my Rockies gear today
because I was, like I've tried every combination of like
I have a jacket, I have my koozy, I have
two different hats.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I've got three different shirts. I've got a sweatshirt. I've
tried all the combinations this year.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, Grant none of them than for it.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think I may mean with Ben on this when
I rarely do this, But could you be Jason the
team with all those combinations.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well I got to find one that works.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Apparently, the one of the worst isn't going in to
the stadium.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It's the Grant with a beer and a hot dog
in his hand, a combination called Dick Montfort.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
We've got the solution. You don't need more bats in
the lineup.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
You need more mustache, grit with a hot dog and
a beer in his hand.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's it. You need that Ned Flanders mustache out there. Now.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I'll go out and play left field right now, just
stand out there. They need a seventy mile per hour lefty.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
You glit the mound. You couldn't do it any worse.
You literally could not do any worse.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
It is like, it's just it's frustrating right now, especially
come off the heels of thatugget's embarrassment, which you were
going to talk about as we hit the break.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, you know what, here's something really quickly that I
noticed about Nikola Jokis. When Nikolai Jokis gets the ball
at any point on the floor, he.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Does this typical thing. He gets the ball and he.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Takes about two to three bounces before he looks to
make his move. And the move is usually he's gonna
take his elbow and he's gonna put in the guy's
chest and he's gonna look to make a shot. But
if the shot is not there, you go to double him.
He's looking to pass. But sometimes when he looks to pass,
the week's side rotation comes. If you remember, a couple
of weeks back in the regular season, the Lakers did

(25:37):
the same thing to.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
The Nuggets when they beat them.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
The Clippers tried to do the same thing and they
had success, but it wasn't sustainable because James Harden doesn't
play defense, right.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
So when you look at Oka.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
See they looked at that and said, well, we're gonna
use that and we're gonna challenge that every single time.
So when you look at the thirteen turnovers that Nikola
Jokis has had over the first two games in this
OKC series, that is what they've been using against him.
So he's gonna have to find a way to mix
things up because usually when the trap comes, he's looking
to pass the ball to an open shooter.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Or cutting Aaron Gord.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And they tried that, you know, the other night, but
then you know, Ched Homer blocked.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
The shot not once but twice. So they're gonna have to.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Try to change something up with Nikola Yoka's rhythm. If not,
to me, that is the tail and I'm sure that, okay,
So he's gonna try to explode it on Friday.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, And that's that's sart of the thing. The Nuggets
have looked for the better part about four games pretty sloppy,
and it's a part of what's happening to People have
been doing that exact same thing. The Lakers laid the
blueprint out on it, and people have been expanding on that,
and you're starting to see, you know, the Nuggets have
not counterpunched that yet successfully. You know, when's the last

(26:48):
time you remember, I mean the Nuggets one game one
of this series, but when's the last time you saw
them hitting on all cylinders?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I mean, we really haven't. And I'm okay, so to
put into context. Hitting on all cylinders. It means Nikola
Jokis has his typical triple double.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Jamal Is I'm talking to looks polished. I'm not talking
about even the stat line. I'm talking about You're watching
the product, and it doesn't look sloppy. It doesn't look like,
you know, the nugget aren't turning it over, you know,
thirteen times in a quarter. You know that kind of
stuff where it's looked polished, where they've looked like a
professional basketball team that's out there running their offense and
dictating to a defense.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
But see, that's the.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Thing that is confusing or everybody yet frustrating when you're
watching Nuggets games, because you know what they're capable of
doing if everyone locks in. But obviously the game last
night was a team that wasn't locked in. You can
justify it and say, you know what, Hey, they were tired.
They came over a seven game series and they put

(27:44):
all the energy in Game one, and now they get
that rest to play on Friday, and I'm like, no,
you have a chance to win two games on a
really good team's court. To go up too to Ozero
heading to Ball Arena on Friday to me, you got
to take advantage of it.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
But seem as though watching the body language.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Of the players, there's a lot of self loathing, you know,
in that game, guy's feeling sorry for themselves. Right, even
when Nikola Jokics got six foule, I mean, the look
on his face was like, you know, can I get
out of here any cook?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I think that's what it was. He was trying to
foul out.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
He was like, all right, this is I'm not gonna
say here, I waste you know, my body on the
rest of this game.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm just gonna foul out. Go sit down.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
If they're not gonna pull me, I'm gonna go foul out,
Go sit down, and we'll get them back in Game three.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Well, for me, let's see how they respond.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And that's gonna be all important because the pressure is
now all the Denver Nuggets at home.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
They dropped this game, that.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Pressure goes exponentially for them because, okay, season gonna be like,
let's we.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
We have this team right where we want them.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
And if you think about okay, see they're saying the
same thing. They're saying, Look, we split with this team
the regular season. We know that we are a better team, right,
and this can't be a game of well one MVP
versus another projected MVP. Is like, the Nuggets have to
come out and play like a cohesive unit. And like

(29:04):
you said earlier, if MPJ is not able to go,
David Adaman has to go to something else. He's got
to come up with a different lineup because whatever he's
doing or whatever he was doing in game two was
not working at all.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Right, Yeah, it was just and I think part of
that was just Okay, see waking up.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I think that they've been napping since they they swept.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
The game too. It's open up. Well.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Game one woken up a sleeping giant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Game one, they were still a little they were still
struggling to wake up from that sweep over the Grizzlies.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
They had too much time off.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Nuggets caught him napping, managed to manage to counter punch
him and get back into it the fourth and.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Win that game. Game two the okay, so he was like, yeah,
we're Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I don't know if you just saw the last series
and what we did to that fifty plus win team,
but we're gonna try and do that again to you.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
So, how do you think the Nuggets actually respawn collectively,
or it has to be someone individually.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
You have to I don't think it's an individual I
think it's a team thing. You're going to have to
find ways you'd have to. You're gonna have to find
your shooters and deploy them. This is what you're gonna
have to do because you the Oklahoma City is too
much firepower and too deep, So you're gonna have to
slow the tempo down. You're gonna have to you're gonna
have to space it out, and you're going to have
to get high percentage shots to keep yourself in it,
to give yourself a chance down down the stretch, because

(30:17):
you can't count on Oklahoma City being cold. They've got
too many guys. If what them is cold, they can
put somebody else in.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
If it's just so deep.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
That's the same Isaiah Joe was four or four from
downtown right like he was stone cold game one, but
he comes on game two and he rips off four
to three pointers, like they have bodies that can just
keep shooting.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Caruso's hot. In game one he goes cold and two.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
You can't count on them being cold as a team,
so you have to find high efficiency effective plays to
get the ball to the rack, whether that's where that's.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Two points, dumbing it into cold, spread it out, dubbing
it in him. What have you got to do?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
But you have to find high efficiency ways to get points,
slow the pace down, so they just can't do like
what Boston does, which is keep jacking up threes and
try to get away, you know, get away from you.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Boston, for their part, hasn't worked this series because they've
been cold.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
But on a long enough timeline, a thousand.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Monkeys with a thousand typewriters can do Shakespeare. You can't
count on Boston being cold. You can't count on Boston
being cold forever.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Oh, really quickly, before I forget, I have some breaking
news for you guys, right, some breaking news. There's a
coach who I had to I had to check on, right.
I called him today to make sure, okay, I spoke
to this coach because in Game one he said he

(31:32):
was crashing out. I had to talk to him again,
talk him down from the last. So as soon as
he answered the phone, he said, I don't want to
talk about them, damn Celtics, And I said, I just
called a check on you. I just want to make
sure that you were still you know, kicking and you alive.
I he checked. Do I need to send someone to
the crib to check on you, to make sure you're good?

(31:53):
He said, No, he say, tell of guys on BCT tonight,
both Grant and then that coach Mgano is well he's
ready to frustrated.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You got to cover that, he said.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
The tattoo is well covered up right now.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Do you still think the Celtics. Do you think the
Celtics come back and whin I come back and win
the series?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
All they need is like, all they need is one
game that team and the way that them and Okay,
see they both have this this offensive philosophy. You just
keep shooting through it. And so when you hit a
cold patch and you hit a couple of games, you
get to get like they will get hot again. I
thought so. I thought it was so ridiculous the the
haul they gave up for Michael Bridges in the offseason.

(32:40):
But that dude is an X factor for the next Yeah,
Like he is a lockdown defender and he makes all
the plays that don't show up on the stat sheet.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Just think about you got three guys on the next
team that all played college ball together, interesting familiarity. And
then here's the thing, like you said, well, can they
make a comeback? Man, I'm not sure sure because you
were up twenty.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Two games, both home games.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Two games they yeah, they collapsed, they collapsed late.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And part of the stupid thing they did with Tatum
there at the end, like what were you doing? Well?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
What even was that? Have no idea? And honestly, if
he hadn't ribbled the ball out so.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Far from his body when he hit the top of
the key, if he had dribbled in compact, he had
a clear path to the basket and still could have
gotten there.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
See, Tatum is one of those guys who need to
take the Kobe mentality, take the game over.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I'm not gonna leave it in any one's hands.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
But mentally, two games in a row at home you
blow two twenty point leads. Mentally, like, if you're talking
about early Ben, it's gotta be stinking, it's gotta stick
with you.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
The difference between and the difference between those two teams,
He's Boston at their when they're playing well, is a
much better rebounding team. And at the end of the day,
if they're if they're jacking up three point shots and
getting second chances on that, eventually they're gonna start clearing.
They need porsingis to play more than fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Well, that's the other part of it.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
But yeah, but you can't keep jacking up three pointers.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
But but yes they will. That is their game. They
live and die by it. That is today's NBA.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
But I'm just like, if that shot is not falling,
you have to try to get the three point the
old fashioned way drive and get the n one. But
if you're going to stick out there and be a
perimeter shooting team, then you're gonna let you sit out there.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Roccos Country tonight, be back after this
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