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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five, six, six, nine zero is the text line. You
guys want to get involved in the conversation. Big day today,
big news as the Nuggets pull the interim tag off
interim head coach David Adaman, make him the now the
current head coach of the Denver Nuggets basketball team. And
you know my philosophy on that has always been you
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never hired the interim coach. But Orlando, what did you
think about the Denver Nuggets making David Adaman the head coach.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's two folds, honestly, to be honest, like I like
it with them, there's also a piece of it that
I don't Now. I like it for everything that we
saw right when he got the job, three games remained
in I was able to go through that first series
against the Clippers, took it all the way to Game seven,
got it done. You look at the second series, now,
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a lot of people weren't given the Nuggets that the
time of day against Okac, Well, they punched them in
the mount. We did game one right, and that series
there were some battles. Now there's a lot to clean
up when you look at the Denver Nuggets. But those
are the things that we've been complaining about over the
last couple of years. I think when you have a
superstar like Nicola Jokich, and you have the surrounding cast
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like a Jamal Murray, and you know young Kristin Brown
and what Peyton Watson bringing in, and now you're starting
to see some players on the bench, you don't really
want to change a lot of things. But you also
got to get a coach to light a fire under
some of these players butts because.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's just not good enough.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So I'm happy with our stars and I continue to
see them being stars, and I continue to see the
Nuggets as a destination place. But we're going to have
to get a surrounding cast with some other coaches that
could get more out of other guys that are on
this roster that it's just not good enough night and
night out.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, And that's sort of the thing.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Obviously we saw a drop off.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
The Nuggets won ten fewer games this year than they
won last year, and then that was coming on the
heels of obviously having won the Finals in the twenty
two to twenty three season. Michael Malone, it felt like
that the message or the style had gotten stale, Like
he had taken them as far as he was going
to take them.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And and there's that's okay. Some coaches can you know,
could take you so far.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's the thing, you know, John Fox with the Denver
with the with the Denver Broncos, you know you got
to the championship, get you just couldn't quite And so
they made the decision to make the change, brought in
Gary Kubiak, and they got the h they got the
Super Bowl out of it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I I we might be looking at it with San
Francisco right now with Kyle Shanahan R.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'd be top down as I can get you there,
but I can't win it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
My My thing on this is, I never there's a
phenomenon where when faced with adversity, usually the firing of
a coach, right, you get the interim coach in there,
and you get a little bit of a bump usually
right like usually Baseball is a different story. And I
don't want to the Rockies because whatever. But in football
and basketball, when you fire the head coach, a lot
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of times you get sort of an emotional both the
team rallies around itself. Hey we just hit adversity, we've
lost coach, you know, and so you tend to coalesce
and you win games. The problem is is historically when
you hire that person full time after you've had that
bounce back in the mid season, they tend to flop
the next year. We saw it the Raiders with Antonio Pierce.
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Although in fairnessy, you know, you get long enough to
build that thing out the way we've seen it with
Romeo Crenell filling in as an interim head coach.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
We've seen it with.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
An Orgeron filling in as a head coach at the
collegiate level. For me, I am always skeptical of hiring
the interim coach because I believe you got that sort
of emotional boost and when that wears off, is that
person really the guy for the job. And then the
other part of that is I feel like if you
want to clean out the culture, it's difficult to do
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if you're just bringing the next guy up who is
a part of that culture to begin with.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But I think there would have really been hard to
clear up the culture with who your top two stars
are and just the col of yo kids, and who
he is as a person and his personality. So I
always thought that hiring from within if you could find
that person that could get the best out of them,
and by all means he got the best out of him.
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This is a really crappy situation that he was faced
with with three games remaining. And oh, by the way,
everybody's picking the Clippers to go beat you. Nobody's picking
you to even compete against Oka.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
See.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So I like the fact of what he was able
to do. But I know what you're putting out because
I've seen it time and time again. So what I
believe needs to happen is that you got to go
get some other pieces. It can't just be David Allerman
and hey, we're going to keep everything statusical. Yeah, I've
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learned you guys, and I've been buddies with you guys
in the locker room. We've been buddies in the coaches meetings.
We've all wanted our opportunity. But it's not going to
be this. My agent knows reps you. So what we're
going to keep you along because there has to be
some new faces that come in other than a head
coach to get more from the other players that are around.
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Because the surrounding counts is nowhere near good enough, but
it's not a championship surrounding cass. You have a great
start in five when all the chips are falling the
right way, But how do you get a coaching staff
that it's going to get after a guy, get into
a guy's face, and just get the absolute best from
somebody that's on this basketball team. And they need to
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do that. They don't got no draft picks. Now do
we come or do we start wholesaling? Do we start
trying to make some deals bringing in some other players
where now you're looking at other coaches that have been
other places where they have formed some relationships and they
might have those right guys that could be a great
locker room fit for Jamal Murray and nikolaokicch Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Think that's I think that's the other part of the
equation here, because I think David Allman earned the job.
I mean, he did exactly what you asked him to do.
He won that first round, she took okay See to seven,
He won the final three games of the regular sea.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He needed everything.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm gonna try to bag on David Adelman, right, he
did everything that you could possibly ask him to do.
I just for me, I felt like maybe some fresh
blood or something, you know, trying to figure out the
best way to wring the maximum amount of talent out
into cool jamol.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And then you've got to make some tough decisions. You
just talk.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You just alluded to where I was going with this,
which is you need other pieces. I think we all
can look at that and see that the problem is
he's adaman too sentimentally attached to guys he was in
the locker room with. To be able to move, you
need to move Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You have to.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's a contract that's bloated. There's no way he can
live up to the contract that he signed. You've got
to move on, and you don't have draft picks. So
you've got to find a way to massage the captain
be able to get some bodies in here to have
more than a six or seven men rotation. And there's
no way to do that without moving Porter's contract.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Moving him and giving them away two different things, right,
I mean, so absolutely with you, let's move them. Let's
entertain every single phone call that comes in on Michael
Porter Junior. But we're not going to give him away.
So I think it's a lot of different moving parts.
We have to see some movement when it comes to coaching,
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and we also have to see some movement when it
comes to players, and what can what's the best package
that we could get for Michael Porter junior, and can
we get back in this year's draft, you know, because
I do like what we've seen out of some of
these young guys, and they've been some huge contributors for
this Nuggets football basketball team. So I think you got
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to look at it from every aspect. But what I
just didn't want to see was just them to bring
in a head coach, where now we're trying to see
how does it work with Nicola jokicch how does it
work with Jamal Murray. So this is why, ultimately I
think that this was the best hire, But there has
to be a lot of other moving parts to it.
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We're going to move a couple players and we're certainly
going to move a couple of coaches as well, in
order to get this basketball team back to where it
should be because it's still a championship window. Nikoleokich is
still in his prime. We got to get Jamal Murray
back to playing eighty two games.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
We got to get him back healthy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But you know, ag, he wasn't healthy at all this
year as well, and.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You saw that late in the series, and you.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Know, specifically his lower body, and we saw what he
did a couple of years ago when we were able
to win the finals. You know, that was a gauntlet
of who we add to defend night in, night out,
So can we get him back healthy? And I think
you do that by creating depth in the regular season,
and now once you get to the postseason, that's when
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you're cutting it back and saying, we're only playing eight
guys at this point. And Nuggets were in a situation
where they could only play seven and that was it,
and that was like how they're finishing the season off
because the other guys just had not developed and they
needed to push to push a final push at the
end in order to get the right seat and try
to get a favorable seat against the Clipperson and maybe
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they could win that one and that might be an
easier road.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
To the finals.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Jokich turned thirty one back in for excuse me thirty
back in February. That probably means you've got three maybe
four years, you know, three years of prime nicolea Jokic,
assuming he stays healthy before the body. You know, basketball
you can last a little bit longer. We've seen guys,
elite guys last long. We saw the Joe Johnson's, Vince
Carter's lasting in their forties. And Nicole is a big man.
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Probably not going to get the sam An. You know,
the knees, the bab sure as a big fellow. You
know how that flights man.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
They hurt man.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But you know, I mean, it was there any other
name out there that you would have been like that,
Nuggers need to go get this guy?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Or was it always for you?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Was it like Malone because he knows the guys and
knows Jokich and Murray and you know, the personalities can coexist.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Because of the Because of Mike Malone and what I
saw him do with this roster and the guys that
he brought in, right, you get a Jeff Green, you
get you know, a DeAnda Jordan, you get guys that Okay, Jeff,
You're gonna have a substantiating role specifically on what you
bring on defense and bring it in Cowboy Bruce right,
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and what we got out of him because of all
those things, and now the personality of the head coach.
I believe when you have a superstar in basketball, the
personality has to match of what we see in football
with the head coach and the quarterback. If those personalities
don't go well together, it's a recipe for disaster. So
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Malone may watch these guys grow up and help these
guys grow up, and you watch the guys like Jamal
Murray talk about like, hey, we are no longer kids.
We understand these things. You could just talk to us.
Because of all of that, I always thought it kind
of had to be somebody from within because they know
those personalities. So if Adamman was able to win those games,
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if he was able to take your business, it was
a no brainer in my opinion. As far as who
the head coaches now, there's still a lot of movement
parts and I will continue to pound on the table
because I hate when you see a head coach get
hired and there's not a lot of movement. A couple
of years ago, we watched Mike McDaniels and I'm not
I hate to jump from football to basketball, but Mike
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McDaniels gets the job for the Miami Dolphins. He can't
touch the defense. You know, he's an offensive minded head coach. Great,
but there's a reason why you're going in a different
direction as a head coach, and you're gonna say that
you cannot fire anybody on the defense. That makes no
sense to me, Gary Kubiak. When he came here, Coop
brought all his guys. One of his guys is my
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father in law, Bobby Turner, was here with Mike Shanahan
for many many years. Left and went to Washington with
Mike Shanahan, left and went to Atlanta with Kyle, left
and went to the forty nine ers with Kyle. But
yet that was a position that was untouchable. You can't
move on from that. So I hope that ownership is
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not going to handcuff David Alman like that and allow
him to bring in his guys and really, you know,
interview guys and see how their personalities fit because he
knows and hands understands a great like beat on Jamal
Murray and Nicoli Okich and what's going to work and
what's not going to work, and what those guys want
to do versus what they don't want to do. Because
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I don't think that you need to go reinvent the wheel.
We need to play better defense, and we need a guy.
If you're going to be seven feet you need to
go get ten rebounds a night. And Michael Porter Junior
is just not cutting it out and he won't do
it for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean, if you're going to be the you know,
you gotta play the three. You got to hit the three,
and you got to be able to rebound. And it's
you know, one or the other. With him, you know,
it's too erratic. I think with him the five six,
six nine yearls of text line three h three says
Tim Connolly is the true architect of this cores for
Josh Cronkey needs to find the next Connolly. Adelman is
a perfect placeholder. I think I agree with that sentiment.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I mean when you start looking at just how you
can get there, right, And I just thought that it
was very important to not change anything. A couple of
years ago, the big famous thing, when's the parade, oh Man? Right,
and he's just so ready to leave, right, And you
could tell that Denver is constantly growing on him. He
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likes to be he likes to be here. I said
so you just got to continue to keep that together.
So however, GM head coach, and I've always had a
problem with kind of how you hired the GM and
the head coach. I like the fact that David Edelman
was named the head coach before we figured out the GM.
Because the head coaches was with the players every single day.
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They understand what motivates those guys, how to get the
best from those guys, and they're going to really have
a better idea of what the team needs.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
The GM.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Those guys are behind the scenes, they're grind and they're
trying to make different deals. But personalities is a big thing.
And when you look at professional sports, I think football
is the hardest because everybody was an output at some point.
But in basketball it could be argued the exact same
thing because those guys have to be one year removed
from high school before they could go turn pro. So
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there's some big personalities coming in the NBA as well.
So you've got to find a match made in heaven
when you look at head coach and EM for the Nuggets,
and it can't be kind of what we heard at
the end with you know, GM and head coach and
how it all blow up and everybody got fired the
same day for the Nuggets a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, I think that that's the NFL has pivoted largely
to coaches picking their general managers for that organizational alignment.
I think it's it's I think they've got it right
in doing that in a lot of cases. I think
that that I think that helps out, you know, making
sure that if they're I mean, because there's an ego
component to you know, to winning and all that.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But I think that it helps that you're both on
the same page in terms of I need these kind
of players.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
This is what I need you to, you know, to
do for me. You know what I match that has.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Been made in having Rick Carlisle and Kevin Pritchard the
Indiana Pacers. I don't know, do you watched the game
last night, because.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I would sit.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I had money on the Pacers, man, and I was sweating.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
About three minutes later, Oh, I burned that money on fire.
And it's sure.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Enough the Indiana Pacers, who have found.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
A way to be the clutchest basketball team in this playoffs,
found a way to do it again.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, it's been nice to watch this series. You know,
you watched the Cabs come out Game one, Game two,
they're going to protect home court. Then you watch the
Pacers say, okay, it's not going to be the easy sledding, right,
we could get game three, game fours at our court.
So it's been nice to watch these teams trade blows.
But even when you're looking at it and getting ready,
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it feels like a team is getting ready to run
away with it and it's going to be done. It's like, nope,
here's a big shot, and okay, that now got gain
some momentum. You get a couple of defensive stops, they're
right back in it. Or now the other team is winning.
So this is the one series that I've and scratching
my head a lot because it's like, okay, gods are
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gonna win this one. And then you you know, you
go downstairs fix some food, or you jump in the shower,
or go take care of some business, some yardwork, or
whatever the case may be, and all of a sudden,
the Patriots got the win. So this is what playoff
basketball should all be about. So it's very been a
very interesting series and excited to see this whole thing
just finish off.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, Pacers Nicks. It reminds me of back in the
day the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean, I'm forty four years old, so I came
up on those classic Reggie Miller throwing the choke symbol up.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
To Spike Lee. You know, you had the Davises, he
had Tony and Dale Davis.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You had Rick Smith's and Duncan Dutchman, and then over
there on the on the knick side, John Stars, Alan Houston, Oakley,
Patrick Ewing. I mean, the bad Boy Nicks almost emulating
the Bad Boy Pistons, and it sort of feels like
a little bit of a throwback to that in some ways.
You know, you've got Brunson who might be the best
player on the court when he's on the court, Halliburton
over the Pacers side where they and this is one
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I want to get into you the next Seglet have
much time right now, We'll get in the next segment
the players that did like the NFL one hundred right
where the players voted on this, The players voted Haliburton
as the most overrated player in the NBA. I saw
that come out, and I swear to you, I told Grant,
I promise you. I was like almost overrated. He might
be the most underrated player in the NBA. I don't
know how the players do that. When we come back,
I want to get your take on players voting on
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that kind of stuff and what kind of motivation that brings.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Glad to have you in studio Orlando. It's nice to,
you know, sit.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Down here and get to chop it up with your
Grant Smith back there producing Roccos petry, and I'd be
back right.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
For this.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Hell work.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
I'll taken that pant a free from there. And he
tried to give your choke signed to the NES. The
gate is not a.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I mean, I wasn't like plotting on them or anything.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
I just nobody wanted me to do it, like last
year at some different point. But it's just got just
gotta feel right, and it felt right the time. If
it would have been if if I would have known
it was a two, I would not have done it.
So I think I might have wasted it. If I
do it again, then I might be people I say,
I'm like oral farming, so I'm not a I don't
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plan on using it again.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
What's the first time you and I have done radio together?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I got Dave was talking to earlier. I was like,
you know, you and Ben have done shows too. I
was like, no, no, no, you know we've done like
a segment before. So it's super excited to do it
because it's always different, Right, anytime you get to do
a show with a different personality and you guys like
to talk about different sports, hopefully there's a disagreement or two,
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because I think that just makes radio so much more fun.
I was waiting for Steve Atwater, always not here because
of dental work, but I had dental work today.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, no excuses, like a champion, no excuses, no days off.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But I'll tell you this, Ben, there's two things that
terrify me in the world. In this world, stomach aches
and sitting in the dentist chair. I made you want
to see me act like a twelve year old team,
like a preteen little boy.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Did you have a bad It's always been like that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
And I'm talking like hyperventilating, like like so Matt mocks
my dentist. And Matt was quarterback back here he does
all the Broncos. Matt, it is understood that I got
an appointment, whether it's a cleaning or we're doing a cavity.
You're gonna have to call Walgreens. You're calling a volume.
I need you to calm my nerves because if you
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don't calm these nerves, I'm not showing up. There's been
times where I have not showed up and he's called me, like.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I said, guess what, Walgreens never called me with my prescriptions.
That's why I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You know, that's that's good. I never I didn't have
a feeling.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I do have the little phobia needles, like like in general,
like you know, as far as that goes, and you know.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
When I was in the army, like getting all the shots,
I had to go through that gauntlet.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I was like, you know, that one't good the phobia
I have, uh, And this is gonna be just gonna
sound so weird. Old food like leftover, like left over
in the in the in the in the sink, like
you gotta do. We're cleaning that thing off right away.
There's no food laying around that is gross like it was.
That's another time was in the Army I had to
do KP and oh my gosh, it was I'm sitting
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back there just wretching violently.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Throwing up from this food caked on the plane. Oh
that's so gross.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know why that grosses me out so much
of this phobia, but that's my phobia.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Hey, dude, I get it. Every single night. Me and
my wife, we will not go to bed with the
trash bins.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Like it's outside the house.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's not in the garage, the trash ben We keep
our trash bins outside. And you know, Texas, Texas. I
would love to hear the phobias because like that is
like unlike, like no matter what we do.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That that's happened.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Iran's afraid somebody's gonna shave his mustache off in the
middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's a secret phobia. I'm not scared of anything. You
have any phobia at all? Now?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Really, maybe if you get like high up enough, maybe
it may be scared of heights.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Okay, millennial stuff. Man, you guys don't have anything to
worry about nowadays. Man, we had to walk five miles
to work and five miles back. Yeah, you millennials, you
know the busters picked you up right outside the house about.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, millennial snowflakes. You get the video games that we're doing.
Leo and I were coming up video games. Was taking
that hoop and run over with a stick down the street,
trying to get exactly playing man Hunt outside. That was
our video game. Oh man, Yeah, that was a good one.
That was a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Five six year olds. Tax Line'd love to hear you,
guys is Phoby. He's got a bunch of good questions.
Uh in here, let's see. Let's start with a couple
of We'll see. Brian here says, with the Nuggets, even
get a bag of balls for Michael Porter junior.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
They get something for Porter.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I mean, there's gonna be a coach out there that
looks at the shooting ability, looks at the height and says, okay,
I could turn that guy into something. Coaching arrogance, right,
and you need that to be a head coach. You
got to have that confidence in yourself. But you know
you'll get something for Porter Junior. You're not gonna get
You're not getting a prime time player, but you might
get some picks and and a rotational guy.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, it's not what we got what we saw.
You know, Minnesota give up a couple of years ago
from Rudy Capire. That's my first round and let's mortgage
our future on this thing. But there will be a
couple of coaches I think there will be four to
five coaches that says we could fix them, you know,
with tough coaching, with tough love, with a new atmosphere,
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with new star players, a bigger voice. We all know
that Nicola Jokich is not that you know, hey, where
I'm going to rule with that iron fist. But if
you gave like Michael Porter Junior, got a guy like
Peyton Manning, they would literally, hey, you got to be
at ten yards and you just cut this off at
nine yards and like stop and practice and getting on
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you in front of everybody. I think his game would
pick up drastically. I think that's the because Porter is talented.
He's a very talented time.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think part of his problem is he has coasted
by on his talent for so long and he can
still sort of do it at the NBA level and
still be effective instead of ever pushing himself to be great.
I don't know that he I don't know if he
has that mechanism or not because I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And then when coke, and then when the pouting, because
I honestly think that he blatantly pouts when he's not
involved early enough in games and he's not getting his
number called, where all of a sudden, hey, let's call
a play for him, where I believe certain coaches would
be like, oh, you want to do that, come hang
(24:03):
out on the benchers over here on the bench exactly like,
we're not going to fall into that. And I think
he needs that tough love. This This guy is still
he's in his mid twenties right, so he's not even
at his prime. And even once he gets to those prime,
he's still going to have a couple of great years
a half a decade in this league. But let's fix
that right now. And obviously Michael Malone didn't get it fixed.
(24:27):
I don't think that David Adelman's going to get it
fixed because it's yet another coach that has been here
the whole entire time. So I don't think his personality
or who he who Michael Porter Junior is is going
to change. But if you brought in some strong, surrounded cast,
maybe I'd be open to keeping him there. But the
Nuggets have to realize the situation that you're in. You
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don't have a first round pick, you don't have a
second round pick, So what can you do now to
get this basketball team better both ways? And I believe
that you don't really missed a lot from Michael Porter
Junior offensively, and you certainly don't miss a lot from
him defensively because you don't know what you're gonna get
from him. Now give me Michael Porter Junior playing with
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his hair on fire like a guy like Russell Westbrook.
And I know that Russ is going to make four
or five six mistakes a game, but effort, effort requires
no talent, and I know that I'm going to get
balls to the wall effort out of that guy, and
you'll watch him out rebound people just based off of I.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Want this more than you.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And if I think when you have players like that,
your team is going to be better because of it.
But other guys, it becomes contagious where it's like, man,
you're getting involved with that. Look at that when we're
watching film on the flight to the next city or
we're watson film the next day off Guys just saying, man,
I want to do that. I could do that, Like
I got to start getting after it like that.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So it hasn't worked out for Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So unless it's a big time assistant coach coming in
and that's like his project and you're saying like, hey,
you're getting a year to fix this.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
We want more out of them.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
We need more out of them on the offensive side,
and we certainly need more out of him defensively. And
for you could tell him he's seven feet tall, he
could go get ten rebounds a night some way somehow,
And that's how you go about it. If you could
find somebody like that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Bring him on in.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
But if you can't, I think you always have to
pick up the phone and see what teams are willing
to give up, because you might find somebody that's stupid
enough to give you a price tag where you say
you have to go ahead and move them.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
And that's one of those.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Things I mean, because there's there are coaches out there
that are looking at it that saying, you know what,
there's the player that Michael Porter Junior is and the
player that he could be, and if I can get
those two to meet, that'd be a hell of a
basketball player. I have the belief in myself that I
can do that, because I mean, he does, he does
have that kind of talent.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You know, he has the ability to.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Be a double double guy every night and get you,
you know, eighteen to twenty, you know, some nights getting
up there at thirty if he's hot from beyond the arc.
But he just for whatever reason. And I mean I've
seen this, I've seen it in life. I've been guilty
of it in life. There are moments where you can
get by on the talent you have, and you do
you coach, you get by on that, and then it's
easy to fall into the trap of continuing to do that.
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You know, and you have to have that desire, that
internal mechanism that good enough isn't good enough.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I want to be great. But then when your career
is over.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Those are all the guys, all the guys that you
talk about that Ben, I have those conversations with them,
and they hate theirself because they say, Man, I could
have got more out of my career, Like I could
have put myself in a better position. I could have
you know, took care of business and now there would
have been more opportunities when I hit free agency where
(27:45):
I would have went to a better team and I
could have walked away with a ring. Possibly because of it,
So it's never great to have that attitude, and you
hope that he could fix it because he's in his
mid twenties, so that is fixable in the right circumstance.
So hopefully the Nuggets explore that first, trying to create
the right circumstance. But if you can't, I promise you
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there's five to six coaches that will leave. They're the
whisper and that they'll get them right. And at that
point you just got to move on because this is
still a championship window basketball team. You just got to
add a piece or two and you're right back in
this thing.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
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the KOA Instagram page. I don't know if you've watched
the Rockies at all this year. It's it's been rough
or I feel bad. I'm printing money betting against him
every night but eight and forty two, the Rockies out
to eight and forty If you're losing too nothing to Philadelphia,
I will say that they have felt more competitive, and
(29:08):
they felt more competitive the last week or so.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Okay, they're still losing, but they felt more competitive.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Nice, So fifty games then, right, and then this thing
is just over with. It's hard to watch the Rockies,
and trust me, I try. You know, I live here
in Colorado. I want to root for everything Colorado. But
it's just I've had a bad taste in my mouth
from the day I got that pie in my face
(29:35):
back in twenty twelve when Peyton set me up and
Eric Decker hit me.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
With the pie.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I've just had a bad taste and it's hard for
me to go check out Rocky games. But I like
competitive things, right, and that's you know, I just feel
like as a guy, that's whether you've played sports before
or you haven't played sports before, to see two teams
going at it and to know that they're going to
(30:03):
leave it all out there, whether it's you know, the ice,
the hardwood, you know, the grass, whatever the case may be,
you could get up for that.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Whenever I cut on a Rockies game, I don't feel it.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And when I can't feel that, it doesn't justify why
I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
So I'd rather.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Go watch The Real Housewives with my wife, or go
watch you know, selling Denver or selling Sunset, or whatever
the case may be. I just cannot get into it
when I don't see a competitive product, and for a
long time I have not seen a competitive product.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
When I look at the Rocky do put it in perspective?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
This year the Rockies are underwater one hundred and fifty
seven runs this year. The second worst team in baseball
is Baltimore and eighty five.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Just to put that in perspective, So about what sixty Yeah,
eighty five.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
There's an eighty five run differential for them, and there
is a fifty one hundred and fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So we're looking at uh what eighty five? Fifteen you're
looking at Yeah, almost seventy seventy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Runs underwater fifty games in Also the worst start since
the eighteen hundreds, Yeah, for fifty games.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
The last team to have a worse start than them
was the eighteen ninety five Louisville Colonels at seven and
forty three. Do they what did the Leisville colonels ever
become do they become something else?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I think they disbanded. Disbanded.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
You're eight and forty two. I mean, you're all on
pace for a twenty seven win season. There are some
there are some teams right now they're not on pace
to lose that many games. Yeah, that is uh, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It's it's a tough watch.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And when you start looking at NBA Finals, right, you
start looking at the NHL, right, and all these other
things that are going on, and oh, by the way,
there might be a honeydeal list there, because you know,
we went from NFL to College Football playoff to NFL
Playoffs to the Super Bowl, So there's I'm still catching
(32:04):
up on my honey duel list. Maybe I just my
build little slower than a lot of people. It just
becomes a situation where am I gonna really waste time
right here on the Rockies, or am I gonna get
some other things down and get some brownie points because
I'm trying to go to Vegas in July, and I'm willing.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
To go to war for that trip.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So I'm trying to build up a little bit of
equity right now in the household.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, you can thank the Rockies for giving you plenty
of time to do that, because I've not been much
going on there Rockies course taking on the Yankees. Like
I said, if you guys want free tickets for the
Memorial Day weekend. It is a fun atmosphere out there
at the ballpark at least, and the party deck's a
lot of fun. Grat Smith knows he's out at the
party deck. Be there tomorrow. See, I didn't even know that.
I was just making stuff up.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
And there he is.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna be there. So it's a
beautiful up there. It's a great park.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It's a fun happen It's always been fun every time
I go out there. But it's you know again, it's
just it's not fun as you sit there just all
summer long, like, Okay, this is the season where everything
else is in Their ads are over, the Nuggets are over, obviously,
the Broncos are over. It's an hour the summer season,
and I've got to watch the Rockies continue to pile
up the losses there. Ryan Blackbird is going to join
(33:11):
us bottom of the next hour to talk a little
bit about this. Adamman Hire a full time removing the
interim tag. Love to get a chance to talk to
you when we come back. Talk a little bit about
the college football playoff revamping, see if we like the
changes there and some of these things that the NFL
has voted on. What rules would we like to see implemented?
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Five, six, six, nine zero is the text line. You
guys want to get involved in the conversation. Big day today,
big news as the Nuggets pull the interim tag off
interim head coach David Adaman, make him the now the
current head coach of the Denver Nuggets basketball team. And
you know my philosophy on that has always been you
(00:21):
never hired the interim coach. But Orlando, what did you
think about the Denver Nuggets making David Adaman the head coach.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's two folds, honestly, to be honest, like I like
it with them, there's also a piece of it that
I don't Now. I like it for everything that we
saw right when he got the job, three games remained
in I was able to go through that first series
against the Clippers, took it all the way to Game seven,
got it done. You look at the second series, now,
(00:49):
a lot of people weren't given the Nuggets that the
time of day against Okac, Well, they punched them in
the mount. We did game one right, and that series
there were some battles. Now there's a lot to clean
up when you look at the Denver Nuggets. But those
are the things that we've been complaining about over the
last couple of years. I think when you have a
superstar like Nicola Jokich, and you have the surrounding cast
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like a Jamal Murray, and you know young Kristin Brown
and what Peyton Watson bringing in, and now you're starting
to see some players on the bench, you don't really
want to change a lot of things. But you also
got to get a coach to light a fire under
some of these players butts because.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's just not good enough.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So I'm happy with our stars and I continue to
see them being stars, and I continue to see the
Nuggets as a destination place. But we're going to have
to get a surrounding cast with some other coaches that
could get more out of other guys that are on
this roster that it's just not good enough night and
night out.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, And that's sort of the thing.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Obviously we saw a drop off.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
The Nuggets won ten fewer games this year than they
won last year, and then that was coming on the
heels of obviously having won the Finals in the twenty
two to twenty three season. Michael Malone, it felt like
that the message or the style had gotten stale, Like
he had taken them as far as he was going
to take them.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And and there's that's okay. Some coaches can you know,
could take you so far.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's the thing, you know, John Fox with the Denver
with the with the Denver Broncos, you know you got
to the championship, get you just couldn't quite And so
they made the decision to make the change, brought in
Gary Kubiak, and they got the h they got the
Super Bowl out of it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I I we might be looking at it with San
Francisco right now with Kyle Shanahan R.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'd be top down as I can get you there,
but I can't win it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
My My thing on this is, I never there's a
phenomenon where when faced with adversity, usually the firing of
a coach, right, you get the interim coach in there,
and you get a little bit of a bump usually
right like usually Baseball is a different story. And I
don't want to the Rockies because whatever. But in football
and basketball, when you fire the head coach, a lot
(03:00):
of times you get sort of an emotional both the
team rallies around itself. Hey we just hit adversity, we've
lost coach, you know, and so you tend to coalesce
and you win games. The problem is is historically when
you hire that person full time after you've had that
bounce back in the mid season, they tend to flop
the next year. We saw it the Raiders with Antonio Pierce.
(03:20):
Although in fairnessy, you know, you get long enough to
build that thing out the way we've seen it with
Romeo Crenell filling in as an interim head coach.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
We've seen it with.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
An Orgeron filling in as a head coach at the
collegiate level. For me, I am always skeptical of hiring
the interim coach because I believe you got that sort
of emotional boost and when that wears off, is that
person really the guy for the job. And then the
other part of that is I feel like if you
want to clean out the culture, it's difficult to do
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if you're just bringing the next guy up who is
a part of that culture to begin with.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But I think there would have really been hard to
clear up the culture with who your top two stars
are and just the col of yo kids, and who
he is as a person and his personality. So I
always thought that hiring from within if you could find
that person that could get the best out of them,
and by all means he got the best out of him.
(04:13):
This is a really crappy situation that he was faced
with with three games remaining. And oh, by the way,
everybody's picking the Clippers to go beat you. Nobody's picking
you to even compete against Oka.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
See.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So I like the fact of what he was able
to do. But I know what you're putting out because
I've seen it time and time again. So what I
believe needs to happen is that you got to go
get some other pieces. It can't just be David Allerman
and hey, we're going to keep everything statusical. Yeah, I've
(04:45):
learned you guys, and I've been buddies with you guys
in the locker room. We've been buddies in the coaches meetings.
We've all wanted our opportunity. But it's not going to
be this. My agent knows reps you. So what we're
going to keep you along because there has to be
some new faces that come in other than a head
coach to get more from the other players that are around.
(05:08):
Because the surrounding counts is nowhere near good enough, but
it's not a championship surrounding cass. You have a great
start in five when all the chips are falling the
right way, But how do you get a coaching staff
that it's going to get after a guy, get into
a guy's face, and just get the absolute best from
somebody that's on this basketball team. And they need to
(05:29):
do that. They don't got no draft picks. Now do
we come or do we start wholesaling? Do we start
trying to make some deals bringing in some other players
where now you're looking at other coaches that have been
other places where they have formed some relationships and they
might have those right guys that could be a great
locker room fit for Jamal Murray and nikolaokicch Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Think that's I think that's the other part of the
equation here, because I think David Allman earned the job.
I mean, he did exactly what you asked him to do.
He won that first round, she took okay See to seven,
He won the final three games of the regular sea.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He needed everything.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm gonna try to bag on David Adelman, right, he
did everything that you could possibly ask him to do.
I just for me, I felt like maybe some fresh
blood or something, you know, trying to figure out the
best way to wring the maximum amount of talent out
into cool jamol.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And then you've got to make some tough decisions. You
just talk.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You just alluded to where I was going with this,
which is you need other pieces. I think we all
can look at that and see that the problem is
he's adaman too sentimentally attached to guys he was in
the locker room with. To be able to move, you
need to move Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You have to.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's a contract that's bloated. There's no way he can
live up to the contract that he signed. You've got
to move on, and you don't have draft picks. So
you've got to find a way to massage the captain
be able to get some bodies in here to have
more than a six or seven men rotation. And there's
no way to do that without moving Porter's contract.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Moving him and giving them away two different things, right,
I mean, so absolutely with you, let's move them. Let's
entertain every single phone call that comes in on Michael
Porter Junior. But we're not going to give him away.
So I think it's a lot of different moving parts.
We have to see some movement when it comes to coaching,
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and we also have to see some movement when it
comes to players, and what can what's the best package
that we could get for Michael Porter junior, and can
we get back in this year's draft, you know, because
I do like what we've seen out of some of
these young guys, and they've been some huge contributors for
this Nuggets football basketball team. So I think you got
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to look at it from every aspect. But what I
just didn't want to see was just them to bring
in a head coach, where now we're trying to see
how does it work with Nicola jokicch how does it
work with Jamal Murray. So this is why, ultimately I
think that this was the best hire, But there has
to be a lot of other moving parts to it.
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We're going to move a couple players and we're certainly
going to move a couple of coaches as well, in
order to get this basketball team back to where it
should be because it's still a championship window. Nikoleokich is
still in his prime. We got to get Jamal Murray
back to playing eighty two games.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
We got to get him back healthy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But you know, ag, he wasn't healthy at all this
year as well, and.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You saw that late in the series, and you.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Know, specifically his lower body, and we saw what he
did a couple of years ago when we were able
to win the finals. You know, that was a gauntlet
of who we add to defend night in, night out,
So can we get him back healthy? And I think
you do that by creating depth in the regular season,
and now once you get to the postseason, that's when
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you're cutting it back and saying, we're only playing eight
guys at this point. And Nuggets were in a situation
where they could only play seven and that was it,
and that was like how they're finishing the season off
because the other guys just had not developed and they
needed to push to push a final push at the
end in order to get the right seat and try
to get a favorable seat against the Clipperson and maybe
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they could win that one and that might be an
easier road.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
To the finals.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Jokich turned thirty one back in for excuse me thirty
back in February. That probably means you've got three maybe
four years, you know, three years of prime nicolea Jokic,
assuming he stays healthy before the body. You know, basketball
you can last a little bit longer. We've seen guys,
elite guys last long. We saw the Joe Johnson's, Vince
Carter's lasting in their forties. And Nicole is a big man.
(09:29):
Probably not going to get the sam An. You know,
the knees, the bab sure as a big fellow. You
know how that flights man.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
They hurt man.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But you know, I mean, it was there any other
name out there that you would have been like that,
Nuggers need to go get this guy?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Or was it always for you?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Was it like Malone because he knows the guys and
knows Jokich and Murray and you know, the personalities can coexist.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Because of the Because of Mike Malone and what I
saw him do with this roster and the guys that
he brought in, right, you get a Jeff Green, you
get you know, a DeAnda Jordan, you get guys that Okay, Jeff,
You're gonna have a substantiating role specifically on what you
bring on defense and bring it in Cowboy Bruce right,
(10:09):
and what we got out of him because of all
those things, and now the personality of the head coach.
I believe when you have a superstar in basketball, the
personality has to match of what we see in football
with the head coach and the quarterback. If those personalities
don't go well together, it's a recipe for disaster. So
(10:31):
Malone may watch these guys grow up and help these
guys grow up, and you watch the guys like Jamal
Murray talk about like, hey, we are no longer kids.
We understand these things. You could just talk to us.
Because of all of that, I always thought it kind
of had to be somebody from within because they know
those personalities. So if Adamman was able to win those games,
(10:53):
if he was able to take your business, it was
a no brainer in my opinion. As far as who
the head coaches now, there's still a lot of movement
parts and I will continue to pound on the table
because I hate when you see a head coach get
hired and there's not a lot of movement. A couple
of years ago, we watched Mike McDaniels and I'm not
I hate to jump from football to basketball, but Mike
(11:15):
McDaniels gets the job for the Miami Dolphins. He can't
touch the defense. You know, he's an offensive minded head coach. Great,
but there's a reason why you're going in a different
direction as a head coach, and you're gonna say that
you cannot fire anybody on the defense. That makes no
sense to me, Gary Kubiak. When he came here, Coop
brought all his guys. One of his guys is my
(11:38):
father in law, Bobby Turner, was here with Mike Shanahan
for many many years. Left and went to Washington with
Mike Shanahan, left and went to Atlanta with Kyle, left
and went to the forty nine ers with Kyle. But
yet that was a position that was untouchable. You can't
move on from that. So I hope that ownership is
(11:59):
not going to handcuff David Alman like that and allow
him to bring in his guys and really, you know,
interview guys and see how their personalities fit because he
knows and hands understands a great like beat on Jamal
Murray and Nicoli Okich and what's going to work and
what's not going to work, and what those guys want
to do versus what they don't want to do. Because
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I don't think that you need to go reinvent the wheel.
We need to play better defense, and we need a guy.
If you're going to be seven feet you need to
go get ten rebounds a night. And Michael Porter Junior
is just not cutting it out and he won't do
it for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean, if you're going to be the you know,
you gotta play the three. You got to hit the three,
and you got to be able to rebound. And it's
you know, one or the other. With him, you know,
it's too erratic. I think with him the five six,
six nine yearls of text line three h three says
Tim Connolly is the true architect of this cores for
Josh Cronkey needs to find the next Connolly. Adelman is
a perfect placeholder. I think I agree with that sentiment.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I mean when you start looking at just how you
can get there, right, And I just thought that it
was very important to not change anything. A couple of
years ago, the big famous thing, when's the parade, oh Man? Right,
and he's just so ready to leave, right, And you
could tell that Denver is constantly growing on him. He
(13:19):
likes to be he likes to be here. I said
so you just got to continue to keep that together.
So however, GM head coach, and I've always had a
problem with kind of how you hired the GM and
the head coach. I like the fact that David Edelman
was named the head coach before we figured out the GM.
Because the head coaches was with the players every single day.
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They understand what motivates those guys, how to get the
best from those guys, and they're going to really have
a better idea of what the team needs.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
The GM.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Those guys are behind the scenes, they're grind and they're
trying to make different deals. But personalities is a big thing.
And when you look at professional sports, I think football
is the hardest because everybody was an output at some point.
But in basketball it could be argued the exact same
thing because those guys have to be one year removed
from high school before they could go turn pro. So
(14:13):
there's some big personalities coming in the NBA as well.
So you've got to find a match made in heaven
when you look at head coach and EM for the Nuggets,
and it can't be kind of what we heard at
the end with you know, GM and head coach and
how it all blow up and everybody got fired the
same day for the Nuggets a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, I think that that's the NFL has pivoted largely
to coaches picking their general managers for that organizational alignment.
I think it's it's I think they've got it right
in doing that in a lot of cases. I think
that that I think that helps out, you know, making
sure that if they're I mean, because there's an ego
component to you know, to winning and all that.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But I think that it helps that you're both on
the same page in terms of I need these kind
of players.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
This is what I need you to, you know, to
do for me. You know what I match that has.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Been made in having Rick Carlisle and Kevin Pritchard the
Indiana Pacers. I don't know, do you watched the game
last night, because.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I would sit.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I had money on the Pacers, man, and I was sweating.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
About three minutes later, Oh, I burned that money on fire.
And it's sure.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Enough the Indiana Pacers, who have found.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
A way to be the clutchest basketball team in this playoffs,
found a way to do it again.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, it's been nice to watch this series. You know,
you watched the Cabs come out Game one, Game two,
they're going to protect home court. Then you watch the
Pacers say, okay, it's not going to be the easy sledding, right,
we could get game three, game fours at our court.
So it's been nice to watch these teams trade blows.
But even when you're looking at it and getting ready,
(15:43):
it feels like a team is getting ready to run
away with it and it's going to be done. It's like, nope,
here's a big shot, and okay, that now got gain
some momentum. You get a couple of defensive stops, they're
right back in it. Or now the other team is winning.
So this is the one series that I've and scratching
my head a lot because it's like, okay, gods are
(16:04):
gonna win this one. And then you you know, you
go downstairs fix some food, or you jump in the shower,
or go take care of some business, some yardwork, or
whatever the case may be, and all of a sudden,
the Patriots got the win. So this is what playoff
basketball should all be about. So it's very been a
very interesting series and excited to see this whole thing
just finish off.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, Pacers Nicks. It reminds me of back in the
day the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean, I'm forty four years old, so I came
up on those classic Reggie Miller throwing the choke symbol up.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
To Spike Lee. You know, you had the Davises, he
had Tony and Dale Davis.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You had Rick Smith's and Duncan Dutchman, and then over
there on the on the knick side, John Stars, Alan Houston, Oakley,
Patrick Ewing. I mean, the bad Boy Nicks almost emulating
the Bad Boy Pistons, and it sort of feels like
a little bit of a throwback to that in some ways.
You know, you've got Brunson who might be the best
player on the court when he's on the court, Halliburton
over the Pacers side where they and this is one
(17:00):
I want to get into you the next Seglet have
much time right now, We'll get in the next segment
the players that did like the NFL one hundred right
where the players voted on this, The players voted Haliburton
as the most overrated player in the NBA. I saw
that come out, and I swear to you, I told Grant,
I promise you. I was like almost overrated. He might
be the most underrated player in the NBA. I don't
know how the players do that. When we come back,
I want to get your take on players voting on
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that kind of stuff and what kind of motivation that brings.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Glad to have you in studio Orlando. It's nice to,
you know, sit.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Down here and get to chop it up with your
Grant Smith back there producing Roccos petry, and I'd be
back right.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
For this.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Hell work.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
I'll taken that pant a free from there. And he
tried to give your choke signed to the NES. The
gate is not a.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I mean, I wasn't like plotting on them or anything.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
I just nobody wanted me to do it, like last
year at some different point. But it's just got just
gotta feel right, and it felt right the time. If
it would have been if if I would have known
it was a two, I would not have done it.
So I think I might have wasted it. If I
do it again, then I might be people I say,
I'm like oral farming, so I'm not a I don't
(18:21):
plan on using it again.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
What's the first time you and I have done radio together?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I got Dave was talking to earlier. I was like,
you know, you and Ben have done shows too. I
was like, no, no, no, you know we've done like
a segment before. So it's super excited to do it
because it's always different, Right, anytime you get to do
a show with a different personality and you guys like
to talk about different sports, hopefully there's a disagreement or two,
(18:51):
because I think that just makes radio so much more fun.
I was waiting for Steve Atwater, always not here because
of dental work, but I had dental work today.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, no excuses, like a champion, no excuses, no days off.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But I'll tell you this, Ben, there's two things that
terrify me in the world. In this world, stomach aches
and sitting in the dentist chair. I made you want
to see me act like a twelve year old team,
like a preteen little boy.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Did you have a bad It's always been like that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
And I'm talking like hyperventilating, like like so Matt mocks
my dentist. And Matt was quarterback back here he does
all the Broncos. Matt, it is understood that I got
an appointment, whether it's a cleaning or we're doing a cavity.
You're gonna have to call Walgreens. You're calling a volume.
I need you to calm my nerves because if you
(19:47):
don't calm these nerves, I'm not showing up. There's been
times where I have not showed up and he's called me, like.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I said, guess what, Walgreens never called me with my prescriptions.
That's why I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You know, that's that's good. I never I didn't have
a feeling.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I do have the little phobia needles, like like in general,
like you know, as far as that goes, and you know.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
When I was in the army, like getting all the shots,
I had to go through that gauntlet.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I was like, you know, that one't good the phobia
I have, uh, And this is gonna be just gonna
sound so weird. Old food like leftover, like left over
in the in the in the in the sink, like
you gotta do. We're cleaning that thing off right away.
There's no food laying around that is gross like it was.
That's another time was in the Army I had to
do KP and oh my gosh, it was I'm sitting
(20:34):
back there just wretching violently.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Throwing up from this food caked on the plane. Oh
that's so gross.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know why that grosses me out so much
of this phobia, but that's my phobia.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Hey, dude, I get it. Every single night. Me and
my wife, we will not go to bed with the
trash bins.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Like it's outside the house.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's not in the garage, the trash ben We keep
our trash bins outside. And you know, Texas, Texas. I
would love to hear the phobias because like that is
like unlike, like no matter what we do.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That that's happened.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Iran's afraid somebody's gonna shave his mustache off in the
middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's a secret phobia. I'm not scared of anything. You
have any phobia at all? Now?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Really, maybe if you get like high up enough, maybe
it may be scared of heights.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Okay, millennial stuff. Man, you guys don't have anything to
worry about nowadays. Man, we had to walk five miles
to work and five miles back. Yeah, you millennials, you
know the busters picked you up right outside the house about.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, millennial snowflakes. You get the video games that we're doing.
Leo and I were coming up video games. Was taking
that hoop and run over with a stick down the street,
trying to get exactly playing man Hunt outside. That was
our video game. Oh man, Yeah, that was a good one.
That was a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Five six year olds. Tax Line'd love to hear you,
guys is Phoby. He's got a bunch of good questions.
Uh in here, let's see. Let's start with a couple
of We'll see. Brian here says, with the Nuggets, even
get a bag of balls for Michael Porter junior.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
They get something for Porter.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I mean, there's gonna be a coach out there that
looks at the shooting ability, looks at the height and says, okay,
I could turn that guy into something. Coaching arrogance, right,
and you need that to be a head coach. You
got to have that confidence in yourself. But you know
you'll get something for Porter Junior. You're not gonna get
You're not getting a prime time player, but you might
get some picks and and a rotational guy.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, it's not what we got what we saw.
You know, Minnesota give up a couple of years ago
from Rudy Capire. That's my first round and let's mortgage
our future on this thing. But there will be a
couple of coaches I think there will be four to
five coaches that says we could fix them, you know,
with tough coaching, with tough love, with a new atmosphere,
(22:58):
with new star players, a bigger voice. We all know
that Nicola Jokich is not that you know, hey, where
I'm going to rule with that iron fist. But if
you gave like Michael Porter Junior, got a guy like
Peyton Manning, they would literally, hey, you got to be
at ten yards and you just cut this off at
nine yards and like stop and practice and getting on
(23:19):
you in front of everybody. I think his game would
pick up drastically. I think that's the because Porter is talented.
He's a very talented time.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think part of his problem is he has coasted
by on his talent for so long and he can
still sort of do it at the NBA level and
still be effective instead of ever pushing himself to be great.
I don't know that he I don't know if he
has that mechanism or not because I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And then when coke, and then when the pouting, because
I honestly think that he blatantly pouts when he's not
involved early enough in games and he's not getting his
number called, where all of a sudden, hey, let's call
a play for him, where I believe certain coaches would
be like, oh, you want to do that, come hang
(24:03):
out on the benchers over here on the bench exactly like,
we're not going to fall into that. And I think
he needs that tough love. This This guy is still
he's in his mid twenties right, so he's not even
at his prime. And even once he gets to those prime,
he's still going to have a couple of great years
a half a decade in this league. But let's fix
that right now. And obviously Michael Malone didn't get it fixed.
(24:27):
I don't think that David Adelman's going to get it
fixed because it's yet another coach that has been here
the whole entire time. So I don't think his personality
or who he who Michael Porter Junior is is going
to change. But if you brought in some strong, surrounded cast,
maybe I'd be open to keeping him there. But the
Nuggets have to realize the situation that you're in. You
(24:48):
don't have a first round pick, you don't have a
second round pick, So what can you do now to
get this basketball team better both ways? And I believe
that you don't really missed a lot from Michael Porter
Junior offensively, and you certainly don't miss a lot from
him defensively because you don't know what you're gonna get
from him. Now give me Michael Porter Junior playing with
(25:11):
his hair on fire like a guy like Russell Westbrook.
And I know that Russ is going to make four
or five six mistakes a game, but effort, effort requires
no talent, and I know that I'm going to get
balls to the wall effort out of that guy, and
you'll watch him out rebound people just based off of I.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Want this more than you.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And if I think when you have players like that,
your team is going to be better because of it.
But other guys, it becomes contagious where it's like, man,
you're getting involved with that. Look at that when we're
watching film on the flight to the next city or
we're watson film the next day off Guys just saying, man,
I want to do that. I could do that, Like
I got to start getting after it like that.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So it hasn't worked out for Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So unless it's a big time assistant coach coming in
and that's like his project and you're saying like, hey,
you're getting a year to fix this.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
We want more out of them.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
We need more out of them on the offensive side,
and we certainly need more out of him defensively. And
for you could tell him he's seven feet tall, he
could go get ten rebounds a night some way somehow,
And that's how you go about it. If you could
find somebody like that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Bring him on in.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
But if you can't, I think you always have to
pick up the phone and see what teams are willing
to give up, because you might find somebody that's stupid
enough to give you a price tag where you say
you have to go ahead and move them.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
And that's one of those.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Things I mean, because there's there are coaches out there
that are looking at it that saying, you know what,
there's the player that Michael Porter Junior is and the
player that he could be, and if I can get
those two to meet, that'd be a hell of a
basketball player. I have the belief in myself that I
can do that, because I mean, he does, he does
have that kind of talent.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You know, he has the ability to.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Be a double double guy every night and get you,
you know, eighteen to twenty, you know, some nights getting
up there at thirty if he's hot from beyond the arc.
But he just for whatever reason. And I mean I've
seen this, I've seen it in life. I've been guilty
of it in life. There are moments where you can
get by on the talent you have, and you do
you coach, you get by on that, and then it's
easy to fall into the trap of continuing to do that.
(27:14):
You know, and you have to have that desire, that
internal mechanism that good enough isn't good enough.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I want to be great. But then when your career
is over.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Those are all the guys, all the guys that you
talk about that Ben, I have those conversations with them,
and they hate theirself because they say, Man, I could
have got more out of my career, Like I could
have put myself in a better position. I could have
you know, took care of business and now there would
have been more opportunities when I hit free agency where
(27:45):
I would have went to a better team and I
could have walked away with a ring. Possibly because of it,
So it's never great to have that attitude, and you
hope that he could fix it because he's in his
mid twenties, so that is fixable in the right circumstance.
So hopefully the Nuggets explore that first, trying to create
the right circumstance. But if you can't, I promise you
(28:07):
there's five to six coaches that will leave. They're the
whisper and that they'll get them right. And at that
point you just got to move on because this is
still a championship window basketball team. You just got to
add a piece or two and you're right back in
this thing.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You guys, want to win a pair of Yankees Rockies
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the KOA Instagram page. I don't know if you've watched
the Rockies at all this year. It's it's been rough
or I feel bad. I'm printing money betting against him
every night but eight and forty two, the Rockies out
to eight and forty If you're losing too nothing to Philadelphia,
I will say that they have felt more competitive, and
(29:08):
they felt more competitive the last week or so.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Okay, they're still losing, but they felt more competitive.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Nice, So fifty games then, right, and then this thing
is just over with. It's hard to watch the Rockies,
and trust me, I try. You know, I live here
in Colorado. I want to root for everything Colorado. But
it's just I've had a bad taste in my mouth
from the day I got that pie in my face
(29:35):
back in twenty twelve when Peyton set me up and
Eric Decker hit me.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
With the pie.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I've just had a bad taste and it's hard for
me to go check out Rocky games. But I like
competitive things, right, and that's you know, I just feel
like as a guy, that's whether you've played sports before
or you haven't played sports before, to see two teams
going at it and to know that they're going to
(30:03):
leave it all out there, whether it's you know, the ice,
the hardwood, you know, the grass, whatever the case may be,
you could get up for that.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Whenever I cut on a Rockies game, I don't feel it.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And when I can't feel that, it doesn't justify why
I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
So I'd rather.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Go watch The Real Housewives with my wife, or go
watch you know, selling Denver or selling Sunset, or whatever
the case may be. I just cannot get into it
when I don't see a competitive product, and for a
long time I have not seen a competitive product.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
When I look at the Rocky do put it in perspective?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
This year the Rockies are underwater one hundred and fifty
seven runs this year. The second worst team in baseball
is Baltimore and eighty five.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Just to put that in perspective, So about what sixty Yeah,
eighty five.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
There's an eighty five run differential for them, and there
is a fifty one hundred and fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So we're looking at uh what eighty five? Fifteen you're
looking at Yeah, almost seventy seventy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Runs underwater fifty games in Also the worst start since
the eighteen hundreds, Yeah, for fifty games.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
The last team to have a worse start than them
was the eighteen ninety five Louisville Colonels at seven and
forty three. Do they what did the Leisville colonels ever
become do they become something else?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I think they disbanded. Disbanded.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
You're eight and forty two. I mean, you're all on
pace for a twenty seven win season. There are some
there are some teams right now they're not on pace
to lose that many games. Yeah, that is uh, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It's it's a tough watch.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And when you start looking at NBA Finals, right, you
start looking at the NHL, right, and all these other
things that are going on, and oh, by the way,
there might be a honeydeal list there, because you know,
we went from NFL to College Football playoff to NFL
Playoffs to the Super Bowl, So there's I'm still catching
(32:04):
up on my honey duel list. Maybe I just my
build little slower than a lot of people. It just
becomes a situation where am I gonna really waste time
right here on the Rockies, or am I gonna get
some other things down and get some brownie points because
I'm trying to go to Vegas in July, and I'm willing.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
To go to war for that trip.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So I'm trying to build up a little bit of
equity right now in the household.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, you can thank the Rockies for giving you plenty
of time to do that, because I've not been much
going on there Rockies course taking on the Yankees. Like
I said, if you guys want free tickets for the
Memorial Day weekend. It is a fun atmosphere out there
at the ballpark at least, and the party deck's a
lot of fun. Grat Smith knows he's out at the
party deck. Be there tomorrow. See, I didn't even know that.
I was just making stuff up.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
And there he is.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna be there. So it's a
beautiful up there. It's a great park.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It's a fun happen It's always been fun every time
I go out there. But it's you know again, it's
just it's not fun as you sit there just all
summer long, like, Okay, this is the season where everything
else is in Their ads are over, the Nuggets are over, obviously,
the Broncos are over. It's an hour the summer season,
and I've got to watch the Rockies continue to pile
up the losses there. Ryan Blackbird is going to join
(33:11):
us bottom of the next hour to talk a little
bit about this. Adamman Hire a full time removing the
interim tag. Love to get a chance to talk to
you when we come back. Talk a little bit about
the college football playoff revamping, see if we like the
changes there and some of these things that the NFL
has voted on. What rules would we like to see implemented?
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