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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Orlando Franklin making his BCT debut in studio. Here Grant
Smith back there. Five six sixty nine zero is the text.
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Did not nail that at all, totally love that. Where
do you get to tell you? For granted podcast?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Though?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
When are we getting a new episode of the text
week next week? Do we know who the guest is yet? Yes,
mystery guest. No, it's actually a doctor Loretta Bruning. Okay,
and what is she a doctor of? She founded the.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Inner Mammal Institute and she compares al monkeys and other
animals and their brains relate to the human brain. Okay,
I will definitely tune. This is my favorite podcast. It
should be your favorite podcast as well to taking it
for granted podcast. Grant does so great with interviewing all
kinds of interesting different people for that even had me
on there one time.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's lowest rated episode ever. Yeah, just the one time.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I've been told that I've had a monkey brain for
many many years, and there it was right there. Didn't
didn't turn on the mic, so you know, right there
you got to see it. But I got that piece
of paper from the University of Miami and nobody will
be able to take that thing away from me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So which is this past weekend or whatever?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, on the ninth May ninth, we took the family
down and got it done.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And honestly, dude, three years ago, not even a thought process. No,
what did you? What did you? Finally, what's your degree in?
My degree is in psychology. So like when I got
to Florida from Canada, the grading system in Canada completely different,
and when my grades got turned over, I ended up
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having like a one point eight seven GPA, so I
wasn't even eligible to play sports. Oh and there was
this lady by the name of Marissa Fontaine. She's no
longer with us, she passed away from cancer about eight
years ago. What she sat down with me and she
was like, hey, listen, you got to go to credit lab.
These are the classes you have to retake, and if
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you retake these classes, these are the grades that you
have to get, and this is what you're going to
have to get either on the act or the sat
So she really held my hand through the whole entire process.
The only person I've ever in my life allowed to
call me Shrek because of just the relationship that she
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had and she was such a good human being. So
for the longest, that's what I wanted to do. I
wanted to help kids that were getting ready to make
huge decisions on colleges and be able to be there
for them and make them think about certain things. One
thing not a lot of people realize is at the university.
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Remind me, while I was there from two thousand and
six to twenty ten, there was only ten thousand underground students.
My biggest class in four years was forty three students.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, So when I wasn't in class, the teacher knew
that I wasn't in class when I needed that, I
wasn't the best student. And that's just me growing up
and being a mature human being and understanding that. So
the more a teacher could recognize that, hey, he's not
in class, and whether they call me or they call
the athletic facility and they run the crap out of me,
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and at the next morning at five am, it's something's
happening that's affected me, and it's affected me the right way.
So you know, I thought that that's what I wanted
to do. But then you play football, you finish football,
and then I got a construction business. Then you have
the kids, and then you know, your whole base is
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here in Colorado. So maybe one day I will figure out,
if you know, hit up day good old day logan,
and see if I could get a guidance counsel job
to help some of these kids make some of the
decisions because you know college football this well it's college sports.
It's so different nowadays with nil and these guys could
leave after a year, and I think a lot of
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things need to be corrected. And I'm hoping with Bill
Belichick now being the head coach of UNC, that some
of those things are corrected, just because of his personality
and what we've seen out of him over the last
decades when he was winning championships with the New England
play Chicks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, first of all, congratulations, that's a big thing with
the kids, the impetus for maybe going back to school
or was that just you like with it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You mentioned the construction business and everything else.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Was it a combination of your own kids, a passion
for wanting to help others out, just all the above,
all of.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The above, and really and truly, I'd say the first
and foremost is showing my kids that it doesn't matter
when you start something. If your focus and you want it,
you could obtain it. So I started. I got to
the University of Miami the summer of two thousand and six.
I just graduated the spring of twenty twenty five, So
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you're talking nineteen years later. Granted there was a NFL
career in there. Granted there was a year of two
years that I told my wife that I wanted to
do absolutely nothing. But then we got back to it
and we created a plan. And credit to her because
it was her plan, and she showed me the light
because I'm doing ESPN games, I'm doing radio shows and
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I'm like, this is way too many things, and she's like, no,
Like you could do this online and even if you
just take one class each semester, you only have four classes,
so you could get this done. So I was finally
able to get it done. And I think that my
kids will really appreciate it when it's all said and done,
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that I was able to get back there. My oldest dude,
my seven year old. I'm there. You know, You're in
a basketball stadium, so everybody's on the court, and all
the family is in the crowd. And I look over
and my family is like probably about twenty five feet away,
and I see my seven year old. He's crying, and
(06:05):
I'm like, crying, dude, you got the iPad. You're going
to be able to watch whatever you want. We talked
about the movies before You're good to go. You have
your headphones and I'm texting Kean and my wife and
I'm saying, why is he crying? What's up? And he said,
he's so happy for you, like he can't believe that
you're graduating right now. And now I'm crying. I'm just
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like Jesus Christ, right, So you know, it was just
an amazing experience. And I love the fact that I
was able to get there because honestly, three years ago
wasn't even a part of the plan. What didn't even
think that I would ever go back to school to
finish because I own a couple of businesses, I'm doing
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other things and I love the things that I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I gotta i got this segment's getting rail.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But I gotta ask you about this because this is
this in treatment like I don't have I don't have kids.
I got my nephews, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Forty four years old. I'm probably not going to have.
It's certainly not my own kids, but you know, as
far as it goes. But I can't likely hearing you
say that and thinking about that conceptually, is there some
sort of moment of pride in the sense that I
am doing this issue in front of my family, in
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front of my kids. You're talking about, you know, crying
and your kid getting happy for you. But I'm demonstrating
to them that all things are possible if you put
it and you know, and and that's setting aside the
behind every great manners a great woman, you know, pushing
them to be great. But I mean, is there is
there a mechanism there where us my son saw that,
I'm gonna have that moment forever?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Oh, absolutely big. And you know we had Zaid in
twenty eighteen and the plan was to have him in Washington.
I was getting ready to play in Washington, but we
ended up going in for emergency C section here in Denver,
and with that being said, they weren't able to travel
for ten weeks. The doctors wanted them to stay here
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because every time we had a contraction, his heart rate
dropped drastically and have about five hours of that. Doctor
first said hey, we got to go get him. And
I was like, okay, cool, but what does I didn't
know what that looked like. After I was still planning
on Okay, the cars packed up, U haults packed up,
We're getting ready to go out to Washington. We're gonna
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look at a couple places. We're going to get a
place by the facility, and we're going to keep it moving.
But that didn't end up happening. So I was flying
back every Thursday night. I would fly back from Washington,
stay here for the weekend, jump on a flight on
Sunday night, and get back out there. And after about
eight weeks, and talk to my financial advisor saying, hey, listen,
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if I walked away right now, what does my budget
look like? Can I sustain with the money that I spend?
Are we going to be good? And he said, give
me a day or two to get back to you.
Came back and said we're good, and my decision was
made up at that point. But when I made that decision,
what I didn't realize was how much I was going
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to regret not having the picture of Hey, give me,
give me the kid and let me bring him out
there on the field and let me have a picture
of them in my full uniforms. I never got that experience.
So this is like the consolation Prize, And honestly, this
is better in my opinion, because when it's a who
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of a sudden done, like, there's so many different avenues
that we could go in, in so many different directions
that we could go in, But once you get that
piece of paper, nobody could ever take that away from you.
And certain things in football, Heck, we watched Reggie Bush
get his husband taken away, so we've watched other things
happen that we never ever thought that was fair. But
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getting that degree, especially with a lot of people that
never thought I was going to get that degree, or
a lot of teachers that said that you're not going
to amount to anything for me to be able to
get that, it's just like, look at.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Me now, I think there's something great to that, because
I think there's a your son may or may not
go on to play football professionally. There's there's an a
degree of talent and athleticism and all these that are
beyond i mean, even in your control. But this is
a perfect symmetry. It goes back to the conversation we
literally open the show with, which is talking about effort,
because that's that's what that degree is at the end
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of the day's so you're to me, it's just there's
sort of this brilliant, sort of cool moment here when
you're you're teaching your son in real time. Hey man,
you put the effort in. Can't nobody stop you from
going and getting that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And I also think it teaches us all as people,
like it's never too late. Yeah, you know, there's so
many people that give up on a dream or give
up on a hope because they think that they're too old,
or they think they don't have the time, or they
cannot figure it out because there's too much going on
in life and to be able to get through that.
(10:53):
And it was a lot while it was going on,
but now it's all setting over with. Like I'm thinking
about going to business school, I'm thinking about possibly taking
the ELSTAT. I will probably never take the bar, but
I would love the fact of just being able to
think differently and how lawyers think. And I look at
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contracts constantly in my construction business, so I think it
will really benefit me. So the more education that you
could have, the better off you that's going to be.
But if you already love what you're doing, how about
it continue to do those things for me. I loved
what I was doing, but I knew that I wanted
that piece of paper because of just so many different
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things that had went wrong in my life and so
many different haters at the end of the day, and
I wanted to prove a lot of those haters wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think it's great man like. And again I didn't
mean to derail a segment.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're supposed to talk about the playoffs or college football
player that didn't do We can talk about that anytime.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
To me, this is more interesting and fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I could certainly relate to that, and I would say
I would echo that sentiment where you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Say it's never too late for you to change.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I had no formal experience in radio whatsoever, no no
training in it, no journal, no nothing. I started in
radio at thirty eight thirty nine years old, right, it
is never too late for you to go out and
see what you're passionate about and try to try to
get involved in that. I love that, man, I love
the fact that you went back and did that. If
you ever like as far as the l SAT goes,
like I took the l set back in the day.
I never went on to do anything with it, but
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happy to help out whatever way I came with that.
I just think it's fascinating and it shows what a
great example that is for young people.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You know, like what, however your life gets derailed, whether
it's the glamour of playing professional football, whether it's she
made some wrong choices and something that el was happening,
you can always circle back and if you put yourself,
you apply yourself, you can do it. I mean, I
just I don't know, man, Like I didn't know that.
I didn't know you just graduated and this is fascinating
to me. So congratulations again. And then you've got to
get you to Gibris Brown here. Now now you're on
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the hook for this.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Listen, I'm lobbying horrd trust me, number one fan. What
do we need to get done here? Right? I mean,
do we need to bring in a coach and an
assistant coach. What exactly. We know that you love the players,
We know that you love the city. We know that
the best kept secret of a city, you know. And
I hate always talking about Colorado on the airways because
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you know, when you live here, it's three hundred days
of sunshine. It's a mile above sea level. We get
multiple days and you know, November, December, January, February, March,
that's in the sixties where we're in flip flops and shorts.
And I want nobody to know about that because I
want people to stay away from there. That's well, that's
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the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So when I moved out here, like any good story,
it starts with the girl, it ends a disaster.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I moved out here in the I moved out here
in twenty twelve, and we split up a couple of
weeks after I got here, and then she left and
I just stayed. I moved out here from Tampa at
the time, and I just stayed in it because I thought,
you know, coming out, I was like, it's going to
be snowy cold all the time and whatever, and it wasn't.
It was sunny. I love you know. Yeah, we talk
about Colorado a little too much on the airway.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Actually it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It does.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It is still all the time. If you're in the
side of my voice.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And outside the borders of Colorado, stay out.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It is one of those things where you want to
keep it a great kept secret, but you know his secrets.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Secrets don't always don't always keep. We got an NFL
six pack. We come back here on Broncos Country.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And that can't wait.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
The biggest BCT debut sitting in studio as well as
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Speaker 2 (14:32):
Ain't nobuddy doing great? Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, you know how it goes great, Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It is time for the NFL six path.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm gonna trade the last beer, insight and insight information
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Speaker 3 (14:45):
No. Six the top six NFL headline what denrews.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Bronco's first round pick John D. Barron is now one
of just twelve first round rookies from this year's draft
class who haven't inked his rookie contract yet. Do you
think there's any meaningful reason for the delay? And when
might we see that deal finished?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Really, I mean the third of the first round rookies
have it. They're slotted contracts. The only thing you're looking
for at this at this point is offsets offset language
and getting rid of the you know, the offset language
in there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't. I don't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
At least he is participating where he needs to participate,
unlike say Chamar Stewart of the Cincinnati Bengals, who is
holding himself out demanding a fully guaranteed deal with no
offset language right now. The Bengals, you know, they're two
their first round draft pick and their premier edge rusher,
both battling contract issues up there. But again, twelve players
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means the third of the league has not yet signed
their first round draft I'm not concerned.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The Jade Barton hasn't signed.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, I'm right there. I mean when you look at
these first round picks, it's all slotted. These guys are
working on different things, and agents are constantly watching what
did the person get right before, what did the person
get right after? Right? And now can we push you know,
one hundred thousand dollars or five hundred thousand dollars there
before we could get that extra money. So I'm not
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worried about this. I'm happy that he's in the building.
I'm happy that he's learning the playbook. I'm happy that
he's being a part of his team, learning his teammates.
And that's all you could ask for. There is so
much time left. It's not like twenty eleven when I
got drafted, where there was no lockout. There was a
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lockout and then all of a sudden, the league recertified
yourself and training camp was starting in two days and
you had just no idea what's going on. At least
he has the playbook, he's getting in some good work.
He's learning that playbook from some veteran guys that are
around and understanding the expectations that are also going to
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fall on him this season as well.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Two NFL dot Com listed Jonathan Cooper as the Denver
Broncos most underappreciated player. Do you agree with that selection,
and if not, who do you think is the most
underappreciated player on the roster.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Oh, it's a good one. I could go with that.
I could certainly make the argument for it. Coop does
a great job set in the edge, which has been
something like Benito's had to kind of grow into that
he's more of a pass rusher.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Than being able to set the edge in the run game.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, I would probably say that those three guys
up front and as Zach Allen gets the accolades. But
if you're on the defensive side of the balls, three
guys up front are probably the most underappreciated, while the
other guys the secondary gets the glory. The edge rushers
get the glory that John Franklin, Myers, DJ Jones and
Zach Allen.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
To a lesser extent he gets. He gets on the glory.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I think those guys do with the dirty work up
there probably get probably are underappreciated as well. So I
would say DJ, JFM and Kop probably the three most
underappreciated on the defensive side.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'd love to see the big boys always getting that love.
Anytime you could get the big boys and shout them out,
because anytime you hear their name during their game, w
you for something bad. So I think Denver has done
a heck of a job of building up their offensive line,
building up their defensive line, when it comes to like
the most underrated player, I got to go with a
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different position, and because he really shocked me this year
with his ability when Alex Singleton went down Cody Barton
and being able to mug up in that a gap
and then all of a sudden, at the snap of
the ball, you know you're sprinting back thirty yards, playing
cover two, getting your hips flipped and being able to
make a play on the ball right, so making sure
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you're covering your zone. So I think that's another guy
that's very underrated, especially because of just kind of how
it looked his first year and there was a big jump.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So if he.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Continues to do that, he's going to make a lot
of money in this league and he's going to continue
to find some success.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Burrow takes a shotgun snap in trouble pinballs.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Now steps up looking for so many.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Your front, Burrow's going to be hit Dawn.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
He goes at the front Jonathan Cooper Broncos right now
have twenty players on the field celebrating and the Bengals
offense walking to the sideline with their helmets off.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
They don't get.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
In after first and goal at the one.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
How much did it hurt Grant to play the Bengals
low light there. It was painful, They noted Bengals fan
Grant Smith back there way three.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
More news from the AFC. North Steelers star Alex high
Smith told the media that the wait for Aaron Rodgers
to determine his landing spot isn't a distraction. He also
said the team is excited to hopefully add him soon.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Do you think hi Smith is telling the truth there?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And do you think Mike Tomlin, famous for being able
to handle some of those difficult personalities, will manage to
keep a lid on.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
All that Aaron Rodgers drama this season?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I trust Tomlin to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Do I think that high Smith is telling the truth
about They're excited to get him there.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
The rest of the depth chart is Mason Rudolph, Will
Howard and Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
They're ecstatic to get Rodgers in there.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
If and when they get him in there in the interim,
do I think that there it's not a distraction.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean, I don't know. You roll with what you
got right now.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I would say that if you did have Aaron Rodgers
in there, you'd have all the media, you know, ask
me where he is, what he's doing, and the ayahuasca
retreats and the darkness retreats.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Honestly, it's probably better for the stealers to just keep
people guessing will or won't he sign with you than
it is to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, I've ever looked at it from that perspective of then,
like like will he will he not? I just look
at from the football team perspective, and this is the
time when you're becoming a football team. You're only allowed
in the build in four hours a day. You sit there,
you hang out in a classroom for two hours, then
you go lift weights, and that's the first couple of weeks.
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Then the second couple weeks you're lifting weights. But then
you're allowed on the field because they only have the
garbage cans out there, so you're not really doing real
live drills. So every play that you draw up in
seventy three degrees, it's all the touchdown, right, So we
got to see how guys improvise and are you on
the same page as the time and right, I think
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it's always going to be a distraction when your star quarterback,
your potential star quarterback, is not there, but Mike Tomlin
has found ways to win with less and as long
as Aaron Rodgers if he does show up, falls in line.
And now there is a one hundred percent participation and
it's a match made in heaven right where I'm going
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to work with the head coach, I'm going to work
with the OC I'm going to work with the quarterback coach.
But also I'm going to work with this wide receiver
corpse and the guys that I'm throwing to. They'll be
perfectly fine and they'll win a ton of football games.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, they got to make sure to get Randall Cobb
in there now too. El Atlaska or.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Recent Dallas Cowboy acquisition Kaye Elam said that the enthusiasm
and energy inside the Cowboys locker room is unlike anything
he's been around before. But the Cowboys defense returned to
being one of the league's best defenses in twenty twenty
five after a bit of a swoon in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You know, I think that there is a new energy there.
I think I've been vocal about this since since the hiring.
I think Dallas is going to be a problem for
people this year. I think, you know, I think Brian
shot Numbers a better coach and people give him credit
for you know, I like kind of what they.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Did on the offensive side going out there, get Tyler Booker,
get the big guard in there.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
They added Pickens, you know, it's more of a deep threat,
so the seed can work in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think Dallas is gonna be a problem for people
this year. Kyrie Eland.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's interesting quote there because the only other place he's
bad as Buffalo, where they could pete for championships. So
saying there's a different energy in Dallas, I don't know
that that necessarily is is a good or bad thing,
you know. I just I do think Dallas is a
team people are sleeping on this year because it's easy
to make jokes about Dallas, you know, and they're in
a tough division. You got the Eagles, sovi there coming
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off the Super Bowl. Yeah, Washington, who was in the
NFC Championship game. But I think Washington's could take a
little bit of a step back this year, and I
think Dallas is you know, with all due respect to
the genius that is Dan Quinn, I would never be
smirch his name. I think Dallas is in line to
sneak up on some people this year.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I think it takes more consistency. So I love
Dan Quinn as a coach for what I believe has
hurt the Dallas Cowboys over the last couple of years
was on those third and seven plus situations where it
was almost, hey, let's check whoop ass in this situation
and you had guys now ending up in two gaps
in the same gaps where now that's just bad football.
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So if you could get more consistency and guys that
do their job for longer and hey, we're going to
clasps the pocket, we're going to find you know, that
interior pass rusher. Now that could create some havoc. Along
with the guys that are coming off the edge, we're
going to be perfectly fine. But I think that all
starts with coaching and when you see it where it's
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that really head guys are kind of doing their own thing,
you gotta mip it in the bug. And if you're
able to do that, Dallas has a talented roster. They
should be able to win some football games.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Sorry, I lost my turn down five and there I
am with my microphone turned off, Shador Sanders told Kay Adams.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Outside the room, people try to pit us against each other,
but inside the room we know where one Who do
you think wins.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That Browns quarterback competition?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And who of those four quarterbacks Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco,
Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders is most likely to be cut?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Well, first of all, you got four guys. But what
was it I said earlier today? Grant is in this
the four horsemen or four horse men of the apocalypus
between Joe Flacco, Kennie Pickett, and look who's most likely
to win it? I mean, Flacco's the vet, already's been around,
he knows the system. To me, he would be the
placeholder until one of the young pups comes and takes
a job. I don't have a lot of faith in
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cann he picket per se. I mean, maybe he turns
around a resurrectionit.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
There, but you know, I don't have a lot of
faith there.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think it really boils down to Joe Flacco and
then one of the two young pups, whether that's Gabriel
or Shador.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I think she Door's better quarterback.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like he's got to hire football like you Gable's got
a little stronger arm, but beyond that, I think Sador
beats him across the board in terms of intangibles. So
I would suggest that it's probably Joe Flacco's job until
Shador can take it.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's my read on the situation.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, so, first and foremost, I love the fact that
Shadora has changed his tune right, and she was, you know,
presumably the number one overall quarterback. He was he didn't
want to play for certain teams, and now it's you know,
everybody's trying to put us together against each other outside
this room, but we all know what we stand in
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this room. When you say day one starter, I think
Joe Flacco has played too much football not to become
that day one starter. I don't think Kenny Pickett's going
to be on this roster when it's all said and done.
But exactly what benj just said, it's Joe Flacco and
it's a place holding spot until Shadora could show enough
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where he could be the guy and understand, because that's
the big thing. You know, when you look at these
college football playbooks, they're five hundred pages. Once you get
to the NFL College Football Playbook, will be one hundred pages.
You might see four blitz's all game. In the NFL,
you'll see four blitzes back to back, and can your
quarterback recognize that and put your team in the best
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position to succeed. That's where I think Shadora will struggle
just because of the athletic ability that he had around him,
and that's why he took so many sets. But if
he could become a more timing quarterback and trusting the
guys that are around him and understanding that I don't
have to do it all on every single play, that
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one of these other ten guys will go make a
play for me. I think at that point it's leveland
Browns an organization will say, there's the keys to the city,
young man. You're guy moving forward. Can it's your job
to lose? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Rickshad sorry, uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And I think it's less of a concern for Shador
falling in the draft. You know, typically, I think you're
concerned when a player that happens to a play because
they're missing out on all that money. Less of a
concern for and I think humbling him to your point,
Orlando is exactly what he might have needed.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Barkley said this week that he believes.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
The twenty twenty four Eagles deserve to go down as
one of the five best teams in NFL history. Are
you buying Barkley's claim? And which teams do you think.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Are in your top five all time time, all time
NFL teams complete teams? What he was. I mean, he
has to say that. He has to believe that because
he's a part of that, right. But in ray, I
don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean the ninety one Washington Redskins, oh seven Patriots.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean they.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Thought the dynasty in the Super Bowl. Yeah, But I
mean I'm talking like I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Rattling off teams right now that would beat the breaks
off of that team last year.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Eighty five Bears would have smoked them. I mean, all
things being all things being equal, the.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Ninety one, well Washington, yeah, yeah, the O seven Patriots.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It looks like a super Bowl though for what it's worth. Yeah,
the twenty thirteen Broncos.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Like you know, to be honest with you, and they
didn't win the Super Bowl. I mean, twenty eighteen Kansas
City would have beat the breaks.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Off that team. Now, I'm not buying that claim.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I would put them in the you know, in the
top maybe twenty or twenty five teams, but the top five,
I mean, that's a prestigious And we're not even getting
into touching on the the Tampay Buccaneers that won the
Super Bowl with Gruden. We're not even getting into the
Baltimore Ravens that won the Super Bowl with those defenses.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Who's yeah Lewis and yeah, I'd read and all those guys.
I think it's a sweet spot. It's around fifteen. I
don't believe it's a top five situation. Even when I
look at twenty thirteen team that was a part of
in the highest scoring offense in NFL history. We went
up against the best defense and got dismantled. Right, So
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defense wins championships. And I know that Philadelphia had a
great offense and a great defense, but there was some
identity issues going on with that team, and we kind
of dropped the ball the year before. They could have had,
you know, a repaid situation, had they not finished off
the season the way that they finished it off a
year ago. So until you are finishing those things and
(29:34):
taking care of business, I can't just put you up
there and say, you know, you're in the top five,
top fifteen all day, every day. But top five, I
think there's some work to be done.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The O seven Pats ran a table in the regular season.
I mean, I mean, I don't know. I mean, you're
talking about a team the last year.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Thumped a dynasty in the Super Bowl, one of the
most dominant super Bowl the Treas.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That team with that Kansas City team last year was
clearly not the same team from four or five years ago.
We saw that they got it lucky with a with
a schedule that placed mostly backup quarterbacks over the course
of the season. They're gonna have to reload and when
they get Rashi Rice back and all that kind of stuff.
That in Kansas City team might be something. But they
were not clearly not the same team last year.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
They hadn't.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I I mean the Eagles what they lost three games
last year, because I know they lost to the Falcons
and Kirk Cousins, and I know they lost at Washington.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well, I'm trying to remember what the other loss they had was.
Off the top of my head, I think.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Lost his feature Jalen Hurts, either not playing the game
at all or not completing.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The game right to go back and look Tampa Bay.
They lost to Tampa Bay. They got doubled up by
the Bucks Week four.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's what it was. So no, I would not I
wouldn't put them top five.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I with Orlando there and the sweet spots around fifteen
to twenty four somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
You know, you put them in there. But there's there's
too many. I think, great teams all time. And I
get it.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You're a member of that team you got you know
you're so we're gonna hype up your guys, right, you
think you're not gonna well, you know we're mediocre and you're.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Not gonna do that. But I'm not buying that. You
know that they're a top five team all the time.
I mean, I'm just not. I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Heck of an offensive line, heck of a defense. Jayler Hurts,
knows when to make the right plays. They got great
receivers sa quand obviously we had you know, highlight reel.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
But I'm still not I don't know, I'm still on OL.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I know, Yeah, this has.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Been been fun.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
We got more Broncos country tonight coming up here after
the break.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
This is a blast. So make sure you don't forget
about me. Call me. I'm around and available. If this
was fun, call it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
We'll do Broncos country that k
Orlando Franklin making his BCT debut in studio. Here Grant
Smith back there. Five six sixty nine zero is the text.
I want to thank Ryan Blackburn for joining us in
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Did not nail that at all, totally love that. Where
do you get to tell you? For granted podcast?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Though?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
When are we getting a new episode of the text
week next week? Do we know who the guest is yet? Yes,
mystery guest. No, it's actually a doctor Loretta Bruning. Okay,
and what is she a doctor of? She founded the.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Inner Mammal Institute and she compares al monkeys and other
animals and their brains relate to the human brain. Okay,
I will definitely tune. This is my favorite podcast. It
should be your favorite podcast as well to taking it
for granted podcast. Grant does so great with interviewing all
kinds of interesting different people for that even had me
on there one time.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's lowest rated episode ever. Yeah, just the one time.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I've been told that I've had a monkey brain for
many many years, and there it was right there. Didn't
didn't turn on the mic, so you know, right there
you got to see it. But I got that piece
of paper from the University of Miami and nobody will
be able to take that thing away from me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So which is this past weekend or whatever?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, on the ninth May ninth, we took the family
down and got it done.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And honestly, dude, three years ago, not even a thought process. No,
what did you? What did you? Finally, what's your degree in?
My degree is in psychology. So like when I got
to Florida from Canada, the grading system in Canada completely different,
and when my grades got turned over, I ended up
(01:46):
having like a one point eight seven GPA, so I
wasn't even eligible to play sports. Oh and there was
this lady by the name of Marissa Fontaine. She's no
longer with us, she passed away from cancer about eight
years ago. What she sat down with me and she
was like, hey, listen, you got to go to credit lab.
These are the classes you have to retake, and if
(02:07):
you retake these classes, these are the grades that you
have to get, and this is what you're going to
have to get either on the act or the sat
So she really held my hand through the whole entire process.
The only person I've ever in my life allowed to
call me Shrek because of just the relationship that she
(02:28):
had and she was such a good human being. So
for the longest, that's what I wanted to do. I
wanted to help kids that were getting ready to make
huge decisions on colleges and be able to be there
for them and make them think about certain things. One
thing not a lot of people realize is at the university.
(02:48):
Remind me, while I was there from two thousand and
six to twenty ten, there was only ten thousand underground students.
My biggest class in four years was forty three students.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, So when I wasn't in class, the teacher knew
that I wasn't in class when I needed that, I
wasn't the best student. And that's just me growing up
and being a mature human being and understanding that. So
the more a teacher could recognize that, hey, he's not
in class, and whether they call me or they call
the athletic facility and they run the crap out of me,
(03:23):
and at the next morning at five am, it's something's
happening that's affected me, and it's affected me the right way.
So you know, I thought that that's what I wanted
to do. But then you play football, you finish football,
and then I got a construction business. Then you have
the kids, and then you know, your whole base is
(03:43):
here in Colorado. So maybe one day I will figure out,
if you know, hit up day good old day logan,
and see if I could get a guidance counsel job
to help some of these kids make some of the
decisions because you know college football this well it's college sports.
It's so different nowadays with nil and these guys could
leave after a year, and I think a lot of
(04:05):
things need to be corrected. And I'm hoping with Bill
Belichick now being the head coach of UNC, that some
of those things are corrected, just because of his personality
and what we've seen out of him over the last
decades when he was winning championships with the New England
play Chicks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, first of all, congratulations, that's a big thing with
the kids, the impetus for maybe going back to school
or was that just you like with it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You mentioned the construction business and everything else.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Was it a combination of your own kids, a passion
for wanting to help others out, just all the above,
all of.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The above, and really and truly, I'd say the first
and foremost is showing my kids that it doesn't matter
when you start something. If your focus and you want it,
you could obtain it. So I started. I got to
the University of Miami the summer of two thousand and six.
I just graduated the spring of twenty twenty five, So
(05:00):
you're talking nineteen years later. Granted there was a NFL
career in there. Granted there was a year of two
years that I told my wife that I wanted to
do absolutely nothing. But then we got back to it
and we created a plan. And credit to her because
it was her plan, and she showed me the light
because I'm doing ESPN games, I'm doing radio shows and
(05:23):
I'm like, this is way too many things, and she's like, no,
Like you could do this online and even if you
just take one class each semester, you only have four classes,
so you could get this done. So I was finally
able to get it done. And I think that my
kids will really appreciate it when it's all said and done,
(05:43):
that I was able to get back there. My oldest dude,
my seven year old. I'm there. You know, You're in
a basketball stadium, so everybody's on the court, and all
the family is in the crowd. And I look over
and my family is like probably about twenty five feet away,
and I see my seven year old. He's crying, and
(06:05):
I'm like, crying, dude, you got the iPad. You're going
to be able to watch whatever you want. We talked
about the movies before You're good to go. You have
your headphones and I'm texting Kean and my wife and
I'm saying, why is he crying? What's up? And he said,
he's so happy for you, like he can't believe that
you're graduating right now. And now I'm crying. I'm just
(06:27):
like Jesus Christ, right, So you know, it was just
an amazing experience. And I love the fact that I
was able to get there because honestly, three years ago
wasn't even a part of the plan. What didn't even
think that I would ever go back to school to
finish because I own a couple of businesses, I'm doing
(06:48):
other things and I love the things that I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I gotta i got this segment's getting rail.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But I gotta ask you about this because this is
this in treatment like I don't have I don't have kids.
I got my nephews, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Forty four years old. I'm probably not going to have.
It's certainly not my own kids, but you know, as
far as it goes. But I can't likely hearing you
say that and thinking about that conceptually, is there some
sort of moment of pride in the sense that I
am doing this issue in front of my family, in
(07:15):
front of my kids. You're talking about, you know, crying
and your kid getting happy for you. But I'm demonstrating
to them that all things are possible if you put
it and you know, and and that's setting aside the
behind every great manners a great woman, you know, pushing
them to be great. But I mean, is there is
there a mechanism there where us my son saw that,
I'm gonna have that moment forever?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Oh, absolutely big. And you know we had Zaid in
twenty eighteen and the plan was to have him in Washington.
I was getting ready to play in Washington, but we
ended up going in for emergency C section here in Denver,
and with that being said, they weren't able to travel
for ten weeks. The doctors wanted them to stay here
(07:54):
because every time we had a contraction, his heart rate
dropped drastically and have about five hours of that. Doctor
first said hey, we got to go get him. And
I was like, okay, cool, but what does I didn't
know what that looked like. After I was still planning
on Okay, the cars packed up, U haults packed up,
We're getting ready to go out to Washington. We're gonna
(08:15):
look at a couple places. We're going to get a
place by the facility, and we're going to keep it moving.
But that didn't end up happening. So I was flying
back every Thursday night. I would fly back from Washington,
stay here for the weekend, jump on a flight on
Sunday night, and get back out there. And after about
eight weeks, and talk to my financial advisor saying, hey, listen,
(08:38):
if I walked away right now, what does my budget
look like? Can I sustain with the money that I spend?
Are we going to be good? And he said, give
me a day or two to get back to you.
Came back and said we're good, and my decision was
made up at that point. But when I made that decision,
what I didn't realize was how much I was going
(08:59):
to regret not having the picture of Hey, give me,
give me the kid and let me bring him out
there on the field and let me have a picture
of them in my full uniforms. I never got that experience.
So this is like the consolation Prize, And honestly, this
is better in my opinion, because when it's a who
(09:22):
of a sudden done, like, there's so many different avenues
that we could go in, in so many different directions
that we could go in, But once you get that
piece of paper, nobody could ever take that away from you.
And certain things in football, Heck, we watched Reggie Bush
get his husband taken away, so we've watched other things
happen that we never ever thought that was fair. But
(09:43):
getting that degree, especially with a lot of people that
never thought I was going to get that degree, or
a lot of teachers that said that you're not going
to amount to anything for me to be able to
get that, it's just like, look at.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Me now, I think there's something great to that, because
I think there's a your son may or may not
go on to play football professionally. There's there's an a
degree of talent and athleticism and all these that are
beyond i mean, even in your control. But this is
a perfect symmetry. It goes back to the conversation we
literally open the show with, which is talking about effort,
because that's that's what that degree is at the end
(10:18):
of the day's so you're to me, it's just there's
sort of this brilliant, sort of cool moment here when
you're you're teaching your son in real time. Hey man,
you put the effort in. Can't nobody stop you from
going and getting that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And I also think it teaches us all as people,
like it's never too late. Yeah, you know, there's so
many people that give up on a dream or give
up on a hope because they think that they're too old,
or they think they don't have the time, or they
cannot figure it out because there's too much going on
in life and to be able to get through that.
(10:53):
And it was a lot while it was going on,
but now it's all setting over with. Like I'm thinking
about going to business school, I'm thinking about possibly taking
the ELSTAT. I will probably never take the bar, but
I would love the fact of just being able to
think differently and how lawyers think. And I look at
(11:14):
contracts constantly in my construction business, so I think it
will really benefit me. So the more education that you
could have, the better off you that's going to be.
But if you already love what you're doing, how about
it continue to do those things for me. I loved
what I was doing, but I knew that I wanted
that piece of paper because of just so many different
(11:37):
things that had went wrong in my life and so
many different haters at the end of the day, and
I wanted to prove a lot of those haters wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think it's great man like. And again I didn't
mean to derail a segment.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're supposed to talk about the playoffs or college football
player that didn't do We can talk about that anytime.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
To me, this is more interesting and fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I could certainly relate to that, and I would say
I would echo that sentiment where you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Say it's never too late for you to change.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I had no formal experience in radio whatsoever, no no
training in it, no journal, no nothing. I started in
radio at thirty eight thirty nine years old, right, it
is never too late for you to go out and
see what you're passionate about and try to try to
get involved in that. I love that, man, I love
the fact that you went back and did that. If
you ever like as far as the l SAT goes,
like I took the l set back in the day.
I never went on to do anything with it, but
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happy to help out whatever way I came with that.
I just think it's fascinating and it shows what a
great example that is for young people.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You know, like what, however your life gets derailed, whether
it's the glamour of playing professional football, whether it's she
made some wrong choices and something that el was happening,
you can always circle back and if you put yourself,
you apply yourself, you can do it. I mean, I
just I don't know, man, Like I didn't know that.
I didn't know you just graduated and this is fascinating
to me. So congratulations again. And then you've got to
get you to Gibris Brown here. Now now you're on
(12:49):
the hook for this.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Listen, I'm lobbying horrd trust me, number one fan. What
do we need to get done here? Right? I mean,
do we need to bring in a coach and an
assistant coach. What exactly. We know that you love the players,
We know that you love the city. We know that
the best kept secret of a city, you know. And
I hate always talking about Colorado on the airways because
(13:14):
you know, when you live here, it's three hundred days
of sunshine. It's a mile above sea level. We get
multiple days and you know, November, December, January, February, March,
that's in the sixties where we're in flip flops and shorts.
And I want nobody to know about that because I
want people to stay away from there. That's well, that's
(13:35):
the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So when I moved out here, like any good story,
it starts with the girl, it ends a disaster.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I moved out here in the I moved out here
in twenty twelve, and we split up a couple of
weeks after I got here, and then she left and
I just stayed. I moved out here from Tampa at
the time, and I just stayed in it because I thought,
you know, coming out, I was like, it's going to
be snowy cold all the time and whatever, and it wasn't.
It was sunny. I love you know. Yeah, we talk
about Colorado a little too much on the airway.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Actually it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It does.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It is still all the time. If you're in the
side of my voice.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And outside the borders of Colorado, stay out.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It is one of those things where you want to
keep it a great kept secret, but you know his secrets.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Secrets don't always don't always keep. We got an NFL
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Speaker 3 (14:17):
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Speaker 1 (14:23):
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Speaker 2 (14:32):
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Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, you know how it goes great, Let's do it.
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Speaker 4 (14:40):
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No. Six the top six NFL headline what denrews.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Bronco's first round pick John D. Barron is now one
of just twelve first round rookies from this year's draft
class who haven't inked his rookie contract yet. Do you
think there's any meaningful reason for the delay? And when
might we see that deal finished?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Really, I mean the third of the first round rookies
have it. They're slotted contracts. The only thing you're looking
for at this at this point is offsets offset language
and getting rid of the you know, the offset language
in there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't. I don't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
At least he is participating where he needs to participate,
unlike say Chamar Stewart of the Cincinnati Bengals, who is
holding himself out demanding a fully guaranteed deal with no
offset language right now. The Bengals, you know, they're two
their first round draft pick and their premier edge rusher,
both battling contract issues up there. But again, twelve players
(15:40):
means the third of the league has not yet signed
their first round draft I'm not concerned.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The Jade Barton hasn't signed.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, I'm right there. I mean when you look at
these first round picks, it's all slotted. These guys are
working on different things, and agents are constantly watching what
did the person get right before, what did the person
get right after? Right? And now can we push you know,
one hundred thousand dollars or five hundred thousand dollars there
before we could get that extra money. So I'm not
(16:08):
worried about this. I'm happy that he's in the building.
I'm happy that he's learning the playbook. I'm happy that
he's being a part of his team, learning his teammates.
And that's all you could ask for. There is so
much time left. It's not like twenty eleven when I
got drafted, where there was no lockout. There was a
(16:28):
lockout and then all of a sudden, the league recertified
yourself and training camp was starting in two days and
you had just no idea what's going on. At least
he has the playbook, he's getting in some good work.
He's learning that playbook from some veteran guys that are
around and understanding the expectations that are also going to
(16:48):
fall on him this season as well.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Two NFL dot Com listed Jonathan Cooper as the Denver
Broncos most underappreciated player. Do you agree with that selection,
and if not, who do you think is the most
underappreciated player on the roster.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Oh, it's a good one. I could go with that.
I could certainly make the argument for it. Coop does
a great job set in the edge, which has been
something like Benito's had to kind of grow into that
he's more of a pass rusher.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Than being able to set the edge in the run game.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, I would probably say that those three guys
up front and as Zach Allen gets the accolades. But
if you're on the defensive side of the balls, three
guys up front are probably the most underappreciated, while the
other guys the secondary gets the glory. The edge rushers
get the glory that John Franklin, Myers, DJ Jones and
Zach Allen.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
To a lesser extent he gets. He gets on the glory.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I think those guys do with the dirty work up
there probably get probably are underappreciated as well. So I
would say DJ, JFM and Kop probably the three most
underappreciated on the defensive side.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'd love to see the big boys always getting that love.
Anytime you could get the big boys and shout them out,
because anytime you hear their name during their game, w
you for something bad. So I think Denver has done
a heck of a job of building up their offensive line,
building up their defensive line, when it comes to like
the most underrated player, I got to go with a
(18:12):
different position, and because he really shocked me this year
with his ability when Alex Singleton went down Cody Barton
and being able to mug up in that a gap
and then all of a sudden, at the snap of
the ball, you know you're sprinting back thirty yards, playing
cover two, getting your hips flipped and being able to
make a play on the ball right, so making sure
(18:34):
you're covering your zone. So I think that's another guy
that's very underrated, especially because of just kind of how
it looked his first year and there was a big jump.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So if he.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Continues to do that, he's going to make a lot
of money in this league and he's going to continue
to find some success.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Burrow takes a shotgun snap in trouble pinballs.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Now steps up looking for so many.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Your front, Burrow's going to be hit Dawn.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
He goes at the front Jonathan Cooper Broncos right now
have twenty players on the field celebrating and the Bengals
offense walking to the sideline with their helmets off.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
They don't get.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
In after first and goal at the one.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
How much did it hurt Grant to play the Bengals
low light there. It was painful, They noted Bengals fan
Grant Smith back there way three.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
More news from the AFC. North Steelers star Alex high
Smith told the media that the wait for Aaron Rodgers
to determine his landing spot isn't a distraction. He also
said the team is excited to hopefully add him soon.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Do you think hi Smith is telling the truth there?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And do you think Mike Tomlin, famous for being able
to handle some of those difficult personalities, will manage to
keep a lid on.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
All that Aaron Rodgers drama this season?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I trust Tomlin to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Do I think that high Smith is telling the truth
about They're excited to get him there.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
The rest of the depth chart is Mason Rudolph, Will
Howard and Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
They're ecstatic to get Rodgers in there.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
If and when they get him in there in the interim,
do I think that there it's not a distraction.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean, I don't know. You roll with what you
got right now.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I would say that if you did have Aaron Rodgers
in there, you'd have all the media, you know, ask
me where he is, what he's doing, and the ayahuasca
retreats and the darkness retreats.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Honestly, it's probably better for the stealers to just keep
people guessing will or won't he sign with you than
it is to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, I've ever looked at it from that perspective of then,
like like will he will he not? I just look
at from the football team perspective, and this is the
time when you're becoming a football team. You're only allowed
in the build in four hours a day. You sit there,
you hang out in a classroom for two hours, then
you go lift weights, and that's the first couple of weeks.
(20:45):
Then the second couple weeks you're lifting weights. But then
you're allowed on the field because they only have the
garbage cans out there, so you're not really doing real
live drills. So every play that you draw up in
seventy three degrees, it's all the touchdown, right, So we
got to see how guys improvise and are you on
the same page as the time and right, I think
(21:07):
it's always going to be a distraction when your star quarterback,
your potential star quarterback, is not there, but Mike Tomlin
has found ways to win with less and as long
as Aaron Rodgers if he does show up, falls in line.
And now there is a one hundred percent participation and
it's a match made in heaven right where I'm going
(21:30):
to work with the head coach, I'm going to work
with the OC I'm going to work with the quarterback coach.
But also I'm going to work with this wide receiver
corpse and the guys that I'm throwing to. They'll be
perfectly fine and they'll win a ton of football games.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, they got to make sure to get Randall Cobb
in there now too. El Atlaska or.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Recent Dallas Cowboy acquisition Kaye Elam said that the enthusiasm
and energy inside the Cowboys locker room is unlike anything
he's been around before. But the Cowboys defense returned to
being one of the league's best defenses in twenty twenty
five after a bit of a swoon in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You know, I think that there is a new energy there.
I think I've been vocal about this since since the hiring.
I think Dallas is going to be a problem for
people this year. I think, you know, I think Brian
shot Numbers a better coach and people give him credit
for you know, I like kind of what they.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Did on the offensive side going out there, get Tyler Booker,
get the big guard in there.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
They added Pickens, you know, it's more of a deep threat,
so the seed can work in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think Dallas is gonna be a problem for people
this year. Kyrie Eland.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's interesting quote there because the only other place he's
bad as Buffalo, where they could pete for championships. So
saying there's a different energy in Dallas, I don't know
that that necessarily is is a good or bad thing,
you know. I just I do think Dallas is a
team people are sleeping on this year because it's easy
to make jokes about Dallas, you know, and they're in
a tough division. You got the Eagles, sovi there coming
(23:01):
off the Super Bowl. Yeah, Washington, who was in the
NFC Championship game. But I think Washington's could take a
little bit of a step back this year, and I
think Dallas is you know, with all due respect to
the genius that is Dan Quinn, I would never be
smirch his name. I think Dallas is in line to
sneak up on some people this year.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I think it takes more consistency. So I love
Dan Quinn as a coach for what I believe has
hurt the Dallas Cowboys over the last couple of years
was on those third and seven plus situations where it
was almost, hey, let's check whoop ass in this situation
and you had guys now ending up in two gaps
in the same gaps where now that's just bad football.
(23:38):
So if you could get more consistency and guys that
do their job for longer and hey, we're going to
clasps the pocket, we're going to find you know, that
interior pass rusher. Now that could create some havoc. Along
with the guys that are coming off the edge, we're
going to be perfectly fine. But I think that all
starts with coaching and when you see it where it's
(23:58):
that really head guys are kind of doing their own thing,
you gotta mip it in the bug. And if you're
able to do that, Dallas has a talented roster. They
should be able to win some football games.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Sorry, I lost my turn down five and there I
am with my microphone turned off, Shador Sanders told Kay Adams.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Outside the room, people try to pit us against each other,
but inside the room we know where one Who do
you think wins.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That Browns quarterback competition?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And who of those four quarterbacks Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco,
Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders is most likely to be cut?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Well, first of all, you got four guys. But what
was it I said earlier today? Grant is in this
the four horsemen or four horse men of the apocalypus
between Joe Flacco, Kennie Pickett, and look who's most likely
to win it? I mean, Flacco's the vet, already's been around,
he knows the system. To me, he would be the
placeholder until one of the young pups comes and takes
a job. I don't have a lot of faith in
(24:59):
cann he picket per se. I mean, maybe he turns
around a resurrectionit.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
There, but you know, I don't have a lot of
faith there.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think it really boils down to Joe Flacco and
then one of the two young pups, whether that's Gabriel
or Shador.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I think she Door's better quarterback.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like he's got to hire football like you Gable's got
a little stronger arm, but beyond that, I think Sador
beats him across the board in terms of intangibles. So
I would suggest that it's probably Joe Flacco's job until
Shador can take it.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's my read on the situation.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, so, first and foremost, I love the fact that
Shadora has changed his tune right, and she was, you know,
presumably the number one overall quarterback. He was he didn't
want to play for certain teams, and now it's you know,
everybody's trying to put us together against each other outside
this room, but we all know what we stand in
(25:45):
this room. When you say day one starter, I think
Joe Flacco has played too much football not to become
that day one starter. I don't think Kenny Pickett's going
to be on this roster when it's all said and done.
But exactly what benj just said, it's Joe Flacco and
it's a place holding spot until Shadora could show enough
(26:06):
where he could be the guy and understand, because that's
the big thing. You know, when you look at these
college football playbooks, they're five hundred pages. Once you get
to the NFL College Football Playbook, will be one hundred pages.
You might see four blitz's all game. In the NFL,
you'll see four blitzes back to back, and can your
quarterback recognize that and put your team in the best
(26:28):
position to succeed. That's where I think Shadora will struggle
just because of the athletic ability that he had around him,
and that's why he took so many sets. But if
he could become a more timing quarterback and trusting the
guys that are around him and understanding that I don't
have to do it all on every single play, that
(26:50):
one of these other ten guys will go make a
play for me. I think at that point it's leveland
Browns an organization will say, there's the keys to the city,
young man. You're guy moving forward. Can it's your job
to lose? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Rickshad sorry, uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And I think it's less of a concern for Shador
falling in the draft. You know, typically, I think you're
concerned when a player that happens to a play because
they're missing out on all that money. Less of a
concern for and I think humbling him to your point,
Orlando is exactly what he might have needed.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Barkley said this week that he believes.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
The twenty twenty four Eagles deserve to go down as
one of the five best teams in NFL history. Are
you buying Barkley's claim? And which teams do you think.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Are in your top five all time time, all time
NFL teams complete teams? What he was. I mean, he
has to say that. He has to believe that because
he's a part of that, right. But in ray, I
don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean the ninety one Washington Redskins, oh seven Patriots.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean they.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Thought the dynasty in the Super Bowl. Yeah, But I
mean I'm talking like I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Rattling off teams right now that would beat the breaks
off of that team last year.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Eighty five Bears would have smoked them. I mean, all
things being all things being equal, the.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Ninety one, well Washington, yeah, yeah, the O seven Patriots.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It looks like a super Bowl though for what it's worth. Yeah,
the twenty thirteen Broncos.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Like you know, to be honest with you, and they
didn't win the Super Bowl. I mean, twenty eighteen Kansas
City would have beat the breaks.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Off that team. Now, I'm not buying that claim.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I would put them in the you know, in the
top maybe twenty or twenty five teams, but the top five,
I mean, that's a prestigious And we're not even getting
into touching on the the Tampay Buccaneers that won the
Super Bowl with Gruden. We're not even getting into the
Baltimore Ravens that won the Super Bowl with those defenses.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Who's yeah Lewis and yeah, I'd read and all those guys.
I think it's a sweet spot. It's around fifteen. I
don't believe it's a top five situation. Even when I
look at twenty thirteen team that was a part of
in the highest scoring offense in NFL history. We went
up against the best defense and got dismantled. Right, So
(29:10):
defense wins championships. And I know that Philadelphia had a
great offense and a great defense, but there was some
identity issues going on with that team, and we kind
of dropped the ball the year before. They could have had,
you know, a repaid situation, had they not finished off
the season the way that they finished it off a
year ago. So until you are finishing those things and
(29:34):
taking care of business, I can't just put you up
there and say, you know, you're in the top five,
top fifteen all day, every day. But top five, I
think there's some work to be done.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The O seven Pats ran a table in the regular season.
I mean, I mean, I don't know. I mean, you're
talking about a team the last year.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Thumped a dynasty in the Super Bowl, one of the
most dominant super Bowl the Treas.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That team with that Kansas City team last year was
clearly not the same team from four or five years ago.
We saw that they got it lucky with a with
a schedule that placed mostly backup quarterbacks over the course
of the season. They're gonna have to reload and when
they get Rashi Rice back and all that kind of stuff.
That in Kansas City team might be something. But they
were not clearly not the same team last year.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
They hadn't.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I I mean the Eagles what they lost three games
last year, because I know they lost to the Falcons
and Kirk Cousins, and I know they lost at Washington.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well, I'm trying to remember what the other loss they had was.
Off the top of my head, I think.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Lost his feature Jalen Hurts, either not playing the game
at all or not completing.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The game right to go back and look Tampa Bay.
They lost to Tampa Bay. They got doubled up by
the Bucks Week four.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's what it was. So no, I would not I
wouldn't put them top five.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I with Orlando there and the sweet spots around fifteen
to twenty four somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
You know, you put them in there. But there's there's
too many. I think, great teams all time. And I
get it.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You're a member of that team you got you know
you're so we're gonna hype up your guys, right, you
think you're not gonna well, you know we're mediocre and you're.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Not gonna do that. But I'm not buying that. You
know that they're a top five team all the time.
I mean, I'm just not. I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Heck of an offensive line, heck of a defense. Jayler Hurts,
knows when to make the right plays. They got great
receivers sa quand obviously we had you know, highlight reel.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
But I'm still not I don't know, I'm still on OL.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I know, Yeah, this has.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Been been fun.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
We got more Broncos country tonight coming up here after
the break.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
This is a blast. So make sure you don't forget
about me. Call me. I'm around and available. If this
was fun, call it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
We'll do Broncos country that k
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