05-27-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into it. Broncos Country Tonight short show post Memorial
Day edition, Benjamin Albright here with you. I gotta be
a weird schedule, So programming note for the week. Obviously,
we've got this show tonight. Tomorrow I'll be on KWA
Sports from three to six with Dave and Ryan. That'll

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be Wednesday. Zach Seekers will be doing the BCT post
Rocky show. Thursday, myself and Nick will have a full
show at the regularly schedule time, and then Friday, I'll
be back on ka Sports with Ryan and there will
be a recorded show for BCT that night. So there's

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your programming note. Hope you guys had a wonderful holiday weekend.
Over the weekend Memorial Day weather, it was a little dicey,
was raining, thunderstorms, but you know, I got a chance
to get out about do a little du little exercising
and stuff. That's all good. Got a chance to talk
with some people around the league, around the the spring

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league as well. Talked to a couple of guys they're
coaching in college. Just wanted to, you know, kind of
reget my pulse on on some things. We'll get some
interesting news and notes. I guess on the show today
for you guys, appreciate you tuning in the We'll start
with the spring League football because the the UFL is

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sort of sputtered through a second season here that hasn't
really matched the ratings on the first year when since
they merged and became the the XFL and the USFL
merged become the UFL. But there is a note out
there from UFL News Hub that indicates that USFL Enterprises LLC,

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which owns the USFL half of the league, filed earlier
this month trademark applications relating to the names of the
four original USFL teams, the Oakland and Vaders, the Philadelphia Stars,
New Jersey Generals, and Tampa Bay Bandits. I've confirmed the
existence of all the filings. All four were made on
about three weeks ago on May sixth. The Stars and

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Generals were part of the pre merger USFL, they folded
when the UFL emerged, and then the Bandits spent one
season as part of the reconstituted USFL. They became the
Memphis Showboats in twenty twenty three. This is sort of
interesting because Oakland would be an intriguing option, you know,

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given the success of the Saint Louis BattleHawks, which has
been honestly one of the premier teams, if not the
premier team for the UFL. It sort of makes sense
to maybe try to put UFL teams in markets that
the NFL has abandoned. The article mentioned that former Buccaneers
quarterback and current Raiders minority owner Tom Brady is supposedly

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interested in buying a UFL team. Currently, however, the league
has just wanted to great a business. There is no
franchises and they've not been sold to individuals or groups.
Maybe that happens, you know, it seemed more more plausible
if the UFL weren't slumping in comparison to last year.
But if you move the teams to the right markets,
that might work. The UFL is thriving in Saint Louis,

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as we mentioned, Oakland could probably do well San Diego.
There are plenty of non NFL markets that might take
to a pro football team. The largest challenge just remains
the simple fact that spring football typically struggles. I mean,
even in an age of widespread legalized gambling, it is

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difficult to get people fully invested in football when it's
not football season, and so that's sort of you know
that that's sort of the biggest I think hurdle right
now is reminding people that it's on and then getting
them invested in uh, you know, spring football and that this,

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you know, that kind of thing again. Sat Louis has
taken to it. The BattleHawks and coach becked up there,
Anthony Beckter doing uh, doing great. It's it's it's just
fascinating to watch his you know, some of these other
franchises some struggle, who struggles and why and all that
kind of stuff. And and it'll be interesting to see
if some of these, uh, some of these cities that

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maybe the NFL has left maybe you know, maybe can
make some inroads with that. Will we'll see how that goes.
Joey Bosa. There was some news out today Defensive end
Joey Bosa's time with the Chargers had plenty of injury issues,
and his run with the Bills looks like it's starting
on familiar ground. Head coach Sean McDermott told reporters this

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morning that Bosa is dealing with a calf injury and
said the veteran will likely be out until training camp
as a result of the problem. Also signed with the
Bills after being released by the Chargers in a cap
related move early this offseason. Played fourteen games in his
final season, but missed twenty games over the previous two seasons,

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multiple games and three of his other six seasons with
the Chargers. Greg Rousseau, a j Panessa, Michael Haygte, and
third round pick Land and Jackson are also on a
hand defensive end for the Buffalo Bills, who appear to
be pushing all in this year, trying to attempt to

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try to get over the HOUMP and get the Super Bowl.
Hassan Reddick is back in the news after a twenty
to twenty four season marred by an extended holdout. Following
a trade from the Eagles to the Jets, Hassan Reddick
joined the Buccaneers as a free agent, but he was
not present for the first ota of the twenty twenty

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five off season pro And you know, obviously it's voluntary,
and know the Bucks did not add a financial incentive
to his one year, fourteen million dollar contract, which is
aimed at getting to show up. But still there's there's
sort of a presumption that players who are serious about
getting ready for the coming season will participate. Joe bucksfan

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dot Com says that coach Todd Bowles said this about
Reddick's absence quote, I'm sure one of these days will
see him. Now, coaches aren't allowed to say or do
anything to suggest that voluntary workouts aren't voluntary, so you
know obviously that that quote has to be neutered a
little bit. But all coaches obviously want all players to
be there. For players who plan to work out anyway,

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it's always better to exercise at the team facility than
somewhere else. Injuries sustained while working out with the team
are covered by insurance. Injuries happening away from the facility
are not. Rockcos fans may remember, for instance, Station Hamilton,
the wide receiver, sustained an injury away from and his
injury was not covered. Roger Goodell in the news for

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a couple of different things. I want to get to
the flag football stuff, and we'll get to that here shortly.
The USA Olympics and all that kind of stuff. There's
a ton into that. I'll probably just get into all
that in the next segment, but there's a lot with that.
I sort of want to get into that a little
bit because it's become a become a hot topic or

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a hot commodity. We talked about Bosa being injured for
the Bills, but that certainly is not slowing down sales.
The Bills are going to open up their new stadium
next year and they're in the process of, you know,
selling tickets to fill it up. Via Ryan o'hallard and
the Buffalo News, the Bills have sold more than twenty
five thousand personal seat licenses for the new venue. Bills

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COO Pete Gwelli told olhalleran that the Bills are on
pace too sell out the building end quote. The Bills
are using a stadium experience to allow fans to gather
information before committing to a PSL. And despite whatever Ryan
Edwards says that does not stand for pumpkin spice latte
part of the team, eighty percent of the season ticket

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holders have signed up for PSLs. The new stadium has
expected old sixty two thousand fans. That is actually nine
thousand fewer than the team's current home. So we'll see.
But that Buffalo stadium looks like, you know, looks like
fans have taken pretty well to I talk a little
bit about Cadell he was had a lot to say

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over the last couple of weeks with the owner's meetings
and all that kind of stuff. In twenty eleven, the
lockout ended with the players Association getting roughly speaking, a
fifty to fifty share of all revenue. Many critics were
laughing at the deal the players did, ignoring, among other things,

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the fact that the owners were willing to skip an
entire season of football and the players were not. There's
sort of another reason to aplaud that deal, though. By
taking a relatively even split of all football dollaries generated
by the game, the players acquired onlimited upside, and the
upside keeps going up and up. The cap has more
than doubled in the last fourteen years, shooting from one

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hundred and twenty point three to seventy five million to
two hundred and seventy nine point two million per team.
Last week, Commissioner Roger Goodell dropped a pretty strong hint
that the owners possibly think the players are getting too much, saying, quote,
we did spend time today at length, this is from
the owner's meetings, talk about areas of our collective bargaining

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agreement that we wanted to focus on. The two areas
that we spent time on were really the cap system itself,
the integrity of that system, how it's working, Where we
need to address that in the context of collective bargaining,
When does that happen. That was a very lengthy discussion.
Get into those details in a second. The second is
just a rising cost the cost of stadiums, the cost

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of facilities, cost of operation, cost of investment, and how
dramatically that's impacting the ownership view. So I think both
of those will form what I would call our priorities
going into any negotiation whenever that occurs. That was the
extent of our discussion today. The eighteen and two season
format did not even come up, and that was unsolicited

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and unprompted, which means it was a message that Roger
Goodell obviously went to send. You'll notice it was largely
ignored by the media in coverage last week, but it
certainly wasn't ignored by the players' Association. From the league's perspective,
it makes sense to wonder how they can get the
players to do something other than a fifty to fifty split,

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a set a certain cap for a fixed number of
years in the future. Unrelated to the money the sport generates.
Why share all revenue equally when the owners don't have to,
Why bear the burden of cost from the owners half
of the revenue. So the possibility of the owners trying
to squeeze the players to take something less than half,

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I mean, obviously from a economic standpoint, speaks the imbalance
between management labor. Management will use the nuclear option, the
players won't. The current CBA has more than five years left,
so the salary cap will keep going up, especially once
the NFL scraps the current TV deals they have After
the twenty twenty nine season, he used their opt outs.

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The owners may want to change that sooner than later,
but that's not going to be easy. The end result
could be an offseason lockout again, along with the threat
of a full season of no football. But basically, what
you'll want to do as a fan is continue to

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pay attention to the things that the commissioner and the
owners say, Like this story went by everybody, nobody was
talking about it. That quote, nobody's been talking about that,
And that quote I think is uh indicative of you
know something that the owners and the commissioner went out there.
They feel like that ownership is baring too much of

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the pay and the costs of things, and they want
they want to, you know, get that revenue split in
a different direction. And that's that's going to be something
that that's going to be hotly contested. You wanted to
monitor UH sports business outlets for news that the league
has hired a lockout specialist. You know, back in two
thousand and eight, the arrival of Bob Batterman was the

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clearest indication that that a winter without football was you know,
was coming. The players need to recognize this possibility to
start planning for it. You know, time is on their
side right now. You can build a war chest, you
know that that's the main thing in order to outlast
the owners. You have to have cash on hand. Otherwise

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the players are going to pressure to get something signed.
They're going to agree to things that they don't necessarily
want to effort to get back out there and keep
hurting those checks. But you have to find those steps
and take care of those things now in order to
ensure that players can pay the bills if and when
they aren't getting paid. The problem, of course, and this

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is this is what always works out in ownership's favor
is that the majority of the players who would be
missing game checks in twenty thirty one when this would occur,
are currently in high school right now, so they don't
really have a concept of that, and they don't you know,
the people who would be working the hardest that don't care,

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you know, regardless, you know, Goodell's remark certainly wasn't an accident.
And as the pie keeps growing, owners or having second
thoughts about giving half of it to the players, knowing
that the players will accept a smaller piece of the
pie over no pie at all, is probably going to

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embolden ownership to try. And that's really where this thing
sort of lands at the moment. You know, at the
end of the day, there's going to be concessions from
players and ownership when you do collectively bargain something. But
as it currently see its ownership wants a bigger chunk

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of the incoming revenue because they feel like they bear
the costs for everything. They bear the costs for facilities,
they bear the costs for stadiums, and there is a
growing populist sentiment in the United States about paying for stadiums.
You know, large portion of portions of stadiums have been

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paid for by taxpayers, and there is a sort of
a sentiment of pushback against that with the public, whether
you agree with doing it or not. As people want
their taxes down, they don't want to sit there and
pay for that kind of stuff, and so you're seeing
larger and larger pushbacks from the public on that. Well,

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ownership doesn't want to bear the cost of that stadium
building alone. They want to build a stadium, so the
fans show up. But at the same time, if they're
bearing all the costs of that, what costs are the
players bearing other than the labor? So ownership feels like
collectively there is that the the fifty to fifty split
as it sits right now is slightly too cumbersome, large

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in the favor of the players in the sense that
they are not able to pocket some of that money
to be able to use towards those facilities, those stadiums,
those kinds of things that that ownership wants to do,
whether whether it's true or not, whether ownership just wants
more money. You know, and I realize I've spent an
exorbitant amount of time on this, but you know, a
lot of people don't want to get involved. When the

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millionaires and billionaires quibble over money. That said, I think
a large portion come down on the side of labor
and saying that, you know, you got to pay guys
what they're worth or galase what they're worth in those
kinds of sports. But at the same time, there is,
you know, sort of a recognition that if the base
structure doesn't exist, there's nobody to pay those those millions
of dollars. And so this is going to be one

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of those things that stretches on over the next few years.
It's not an immediate thing, although for the Players Association
it should be, and we'll talk to Nick a little
bit about this on Thursday. But for the Players Association,
you know, there should be right now is the moment
where you should be prepping for those kinds of things.
But as it sits, the vast portion of the Players

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Association constituency that would be impacted by this, again, they're
in high school right now. So it presents a bit
of a conundrum when the most incentivized group of people
that would be affected by this aren't even in the
league yet to you know, to begin to save money
and have money to cover their bills, all that kind
of stuff. We come back. I want to get into

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all this Olympic flag football stuff. There's a lot to
get to on that because listen to Broncos Country Tonight
right here on KOA, Welcome back to It, Broncos Country Tonight,
and Benjamin Albright here with you short show post Rockies. Addition,
it was Memorial Day edition. I hope you guys had
a good, good weekend, good Memorial Day. The last sight,
we talked a little bit about some impending stuff from

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the CBA, but I want to get something that's maybe
a little bit more immediate, not immediate in that sense,
but a little bit more immediate, and that is the
twenty twenty eight Olympic Flag Football Tournament. This has been
a hotly debated subject sort of recently, and so I
wanted to get into some of this stuff because I think,

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I think both sides have some valid points. But let's
start from the beginning. The NFL has cleared the way
for active players to participate in the twenty twenty eight
Olympic Flag Football Tournament. There's a lot of questions that remain,
you know, the determination of the names of the players
who would be loaned for the effort all that kind
of stuff. And on that point, Roger Goodell made it

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clear last week in a session with reporters at the
ownership meeting that the making of players won't be an
NFL issue. Goodell's quote was, that's actually a function of
USA Football that we'll be making that decision. The NFL
will not have any involvement in that selection process. However,
the NFL will have indirect involvement because the NFL has

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direct involvement in USA Football. USA football bylaws require Goodell,
using the all important legal term shell, to appoint three
members to the board, with at least two of Goodell's
appointees serving on the executive committee. The current board, based

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on the USA Football website, includes Packers CEO Mark Murphy
and Cold COO Pete Ward. It's unclear whether Goodell has
appointed a third member of the existing Board of directors.
It's unclear in part because although the bylaws mandate fifteen
board members, USA football website shows only eleven members, and

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unless there are four other board members who haven't made
it on the website, USA Football isn't in compliance with
its own bylaws on the fairly key question of the
mandated number of directors. Also, because the USA Football website
shows two of the board members and that's Pete Carelli
and doctor Garad Gooya have terms that expired last year,

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so it's fair to ask whether the website needs to
be updated. I've got emails in and have not received
response back yet. Bylaws limit the term for each director
to three years, so that's something to keep your eye.
Murphy and Ward show na on the website as the
year when their terms end, which implies that their appointments

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are open ended. It also doesn't mesh with USA Football
by laws, which specify the three year term limits and
limits all directors to two consecutive terms. There is no
limit to the number of non consecutive terms a board
member may serve that I can find, so moving forward,
it makes sense to pay close attentions to the machinations
of USA foo fotball. Although Goodell says the NFL will

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have no involvement in the process of selecting the Olympic team,
the board members surely will have significant influence in the process,
and those spots on the fifteen member USA Football Board
of Directors and five member USA Football Executive Committee have
suddenly become pretty plumb powerful, potentially powerful working assignments. Working

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with Hallenbeck, who the Executive Committee has the power to
throw overboard if they want, they'll be coming up with
a procedure for selecting the twenty twenty eight men's flag
football team. Now, Goodell, who controls three board seats and
forty percent of the Executive committee, absolutely has indirect influence
over the formulation of the overall selection process and in

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turn how the roster is built, regardless of how it
plays out. The sudden spike and relevance of responsibility for
USA Football requires that they need to button up their
business issues pretty quickly. Based on information currently on the website,
it appears that multiple eyes have been dotted and haven't
been dotted, rather and tees haven't been crossed. Now that

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flag football will be an Olympic event with active NFL
players eligible to participate, they're going to undergo unprecedented, probably
for them, scrutiny, as evidenced by the fact that a
fairly cursory comparison to the contents of the bylaws and
the information on its own website raises multiple questions and
reveals multiple flaws. And then we get to the players.

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At five foot seven inches one hundred and forty pounds,
Darryl hush du Set has performed a cannonball, if you will,
and in the deep end of the pro football pool
last year when he declared he'd be a better flag
football player than Patrick Mahomes given his knowledge of the game.
To said another, flag football players ostensibly, we'll get their
chance if the tryout process for the twenty twenty Olympics

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gives them a fair chance to compete with active NFL players,
and to Set, talking to Adam Kilgore of The Washington Post,
said the flag guys deserve their opportunity, that's all we want.
We felt like we worked hard to get the sport
to where it's at, and an the NFL guys spoke
about it, it was like we were getting kicked to
the side. I felt like I was the guy who

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could speak out for my peers, for my brothers that's
been working hard to get to this level. For us
not to be forgotten. To Set believes that the current
complement of American flag football players is good enough to
win gold without NFL players horning in, saying, quote, this
is a sport we've played for a long time. We
feel like we are the best at it and we
don't need the other guys. But we all have one

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goal in mind, and that's to represent our country. It's
definitely opened all competition. If these guys come in and
ball out, they're better than us, Hats off to them,
go win that gold medal for our country. That's confidence
comes from the inherent differences between flag football and tackle football.
Is entirely two different games. Can't really compare flag football

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and tackle football. The set said, these are things we practice,
we work on to become great. Those guys, they don't
understand it yet. The looming opponents of the US men's
team believe the NFL players will figure it out. Chad Palmer,
who's the head coach of the Canadian men's national flag
football team for eight years, would rather face to Set
in his teammates than an all star collection of NFL talent, saying, quote,

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we have a better chance of beating the flag players
than the nflers. I say that with a fair bit
of confidence. Palmer believes tackle players have greater skills than
flag football players. The current flag football players also believes
that tackle football players can quickly close the gap with
their tackle football skills. Palmer went on to say, the

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transferables are all over the place. If you take a
Jamar Chase, he spent his entire life ro out running
and finding leverage and coverage and understanding football and getting
paid a lot of money to do it. How can
a player that's playing a REX sport in the past
be even in the same stratosphere. No chance. Palmer believes
the Canadian team will also consist of primarily NFL players too,
say quote, I don't think the current guys who have

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been doing it for a long time will hold a
candle to the pros. Still, with the NFL limiting eligibility
to one player per team, there will only be so
many high end NFL players to go around. So in
all thirty two non international Pathway Program players, because those
guys would be not count against the one player per

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team would be eligible. So with a five one five
format and ten players per team and six teams in
the tournament, neither half of all players necessary won't be
from regular NFL rosters. There's also the issue of who

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will coach the team. With active NFL players of course,
now clear to play, who will coach a team made
up of pro players, and we've already heard from one
head coach who's interested in doing it. Others could be
coach gets a gold medal two. When the Olympics accepted

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NBA players for the first time in nineteen ninety two,
NBA head coach Chuck Daily led the team. But international
basketball is basically the same game. Five on five. Flag
football is not the same as eleven on eleven. Tackle
Horghead Cascudo and assistant coach Patrick Alley currently lead the
US men's national flag football team, both entering their fourth

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year on the job. Cascudo is a longtime flag football
player and coach, but he's never dealt with the unique
task of averting and retaining the respect of NFL athletes.
If NFL players are going to be moving in on
the turf currently occupied by long term flag football players,
why wouldn't NFL coaches be interested in leading the charge?

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And if not a current NFL coach, how about a
certain six times Super Bowl winning coach who likely would
otherwise never have a chance to coach NFL players. Again,
it's just another a laundry list of questions USA Football
and the NFL have to answer now that the league's
decided to dip a tow in Olympic waters. I think

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with all this there are points to be made across
the board here. USA Football has got to get it
back together, because, like I said, even looking at its
own website, it's in violation of its own bylaws on
its board of directors. On top of that, you've got
players who are already in the program, the USA Football program,

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that understand the sport, that feel like there's sort of
a mercenary element to bringing in players who play a
completely different sport, and the NFL is a completely different sport.
That said, it's possible, perhaps even probable, especially for for instance,
wide receivers, that the NFL guys are better, better, athletes, better,

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just better, and so I think, you know, tryouts and
all that kind of stuff. I think that's a good thing.
The interesting part for me is also in this coaching
component of it. We know how Bill Belichick is about legacy,
and you know, getting the opportunity to win a gold
medal when he otherwise might not would would probably appeal

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to him. Although for me, I would suggest that you
would need people with experience in flag football on that
coaching staff to help just bringing over a coach from
another sport, despite the success of a TV show like
Ted Lasso, often does not end well. And so you know,

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I think at the end of the day that the
flag footballers at least have a point to all of this.
The question is is whether or not, you know, those
things get ironed out. And I think, you know, I
liken it to using scab players when the NFL did

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so what was the eighties when when you had replacement
players come in and and the original players you know,
took exception to that. You know, we're the ones that
that did all this stuff. I mean, yeah, we're striking
because we're you know, they want more equitable you know,
whatever you agree with on the the lockout portion of that,
I don't really want to get too deep in the
weeds on that, but there is UH an element to

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we built this sport, we got it to the Olympics,
and now you want to replace us. We didn't get
our chance to go out after we did all this
playing a sport we love on on no money relative
to what UH the NFL players make. Can I think
there's I think there's something to be said for that.
I think there's something to be said, for we we

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popularize the sport, we got it here, we've sort of
and the right to be able to compete. And whether
you agree with Darryl Ducett about him being better than
Patrick Mahomes at flag football, which I don't think anyone
else in the world agrees with, but you know who

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knows whether you agree with that hyperbolic statement. I do
believe that he has a better knowledge of the game
simply by virtue of having played it. This goes back
to the argument about whether people can analyze the game
if they've never played it, and there are people certainly
that can, but there is sort of an innate knowledge

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from having played the game that you know you're starting
ahead of the curve on on other people. You know,
Chip Kelly didn't play organized Mike Mike Mike Leach is
probably the best example. Didn't play organized football, but made
for a heck of a coach. There are people that
can do it. I always, you know, kind of tell people, hey, look,

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you know, I'm not a chef, but I can tell
you what a good stak taste like. I can tell
what a bad steak taste like. But there's sort of
an innate knowledge to having done something and getting the
reps having done something that I think adds to your
conceptual knowledge and understanding, and so there may be some
coaching advantages. There may be some in game advantages to

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having been a person that played that game rather than
perhaps the NFL game. I don't know. The last thing
I want to get to continues on with Bill Belichick,
and I don't know if you guys have seen this
or whatever, but Pablotore has been reporting on all this

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stuff between Bill Belichick and his twenty four year old
girlfriend hand the publicists, fiance, idea, milk, creative news, whatever
you call Jordan Hudson on the latest episode. After latest
episode of Pobolo, Tory finds out landed, Jordan Hudson posted
and then deleted an attack on Torre's reporting that included

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a couple of litigious buzzwords. Same quote, Pablo Tory's findings
have nothing short of factually incorrect, slanderous, defamatory, and targeted.
Can y'all please stop giving credibility to this quote? Reporter
on Sunday morning. Tory responded, same quote. I find it
bizarrely appropriate at this point that Jordan Hudson would post

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this and then very quickly delete it. But to be
perfectly clear, I stand by our reporting and the episodes
we published. A lawsuit by Hudson against Torre would probably
be fitting given her pattern of behavior, but possibly fruitless,
certainly fascinating for those of us been watching this in

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a medium. She has transformed herself into a public figure,
So she'd have to prove that Tory acted with actual malice,
and which would mean proving that Tory knew the information
he posted was false, or that he acted with reckless
disregard to the truth or falsity of these statements made
regardless of the eventual outcome of any hypothetical case, its

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mere existence would unlock a treasure trove of information through
the discovery process that everybody, I think would feast on,
starting with the sworn on the record deposition testimony of
Belichick and Hudson, where pull string catchphrases like onto Cincinnati
and we're not talking about that would not hold any water.
There are quite a few people that don't believe the

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origin story of this, don't believe the subsequent stories on this,
And if you've watched any of the public Tory stuff
or read any of the Freedom of information at requests
out there at UNC. Since Bill Belichick has been hired,
there's sort of a groundswell of people that don't believe
he's ever actually got to coach there. It's fascinating to watch.

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But Hudson, for her part, has attempted to lobby the
university to monitor its message boards for content that's not
flattering for Bill Belichick and remove it and or ban
users that do things like that. Obviously they have a

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story about how they met on an airplane. There are
several people out there that claim that this is a
cover story or sham. I have no evidence to support
either way, So I don't personally know. And so it's
interesting to watch this thing because Pablo Torrea has a
very good reputation as a reporter, has a very good
reputation for well in a case of symmetry finding things out,

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as his show is titled, Publatory finds Out, he's he's
got the investigative portion. I think of that down, and
I don't think any lawsuit against him would hold any water.
Probably dismissed, honestly, because there's no reason to believe that
he's published anything that he knew to be false, which

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is something that, again against a public figure, has to
be the case in order to prove those things. I've
dealt with that stuff before in people attacking me, and
that's what makes defending yourself as a public figure, even
one as tiny as me, fairly difficult, especially when people
are saying things that are demonstrably untrue. But you know

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they'll figure that out. All in all, I just think
it's fascinating and we'll see what happens. You guys listening
to Broncos country tonight right here on KO