06-02-25 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight with Zach Segars

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Back there behind the glass five six six nine zero
is the text line. You guys want to get involved
in the conversation short show post Rockies edition, and we
picked up our tenth win today. That's right, ten and fifty.
It's odd now Broncos are Broncos. The Rockies are part
of the way to getting their maybe their first series win.

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We'll see if we'll see if they're able to pull
that off. It's it's been a long season. We talked
a lot about that. We talked a lot about, you know,
and where this thing sits right now. And you know,
to me, it's interesting because a lot of people instantly
dig in on the Momforts need to sell. I'm not
sure the Momforts need to sell. They know how to

(00:43):
make money. I think the Momforts need to have a
change of ideology in the fact that they're too loyal
to people that aren't good at this baseball thing, right
they They've stuck with guys who have built, engineered the
formula that has taken this team to level. And I
think that, you know, I think there's something there's there's

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an inherent value to having ownership that understands how to
make money, that understands how to put bucks in the sands,
that understands the fan experience. Tick Monfort's got that down,
you know, the party deck, the stadium. Though that the
ownership of the Rockies has got that component of it down.
What they don't have is the baseball component. And so
I think that in this particular case, with what Dick

(01:25):
Moffort used to do is clean house on all the
people in his ear that have allowed this franchise to
become what it is in terms of the on field product.
Get guys in here that know baseball. Get guys in
here that have built baseball teams before that understand what
you're looking for in terms of players, because it, I
mean it very much is a players league. It's not

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like the NFL where it's it's more or less a
coaches league. I mean, you have players to execute that,
but the NFL is tilted more towards the coaches. And
baseball almost anybody can can manage, right. You know, you
need hitting coaches, you need you need people who can
develop talent, You need scouts to identify talent, people can
develop talent, and then somebody to come in there and
put a cap on it all at em and there's
something too some managers understanding and having a better gut

(02:09):
for the game with winnepull a guy or that kind
of thing. But the reality is most most managers out there,
you know, you're not getting a huge difference, you know
in all that. So you know, firing Bud Black and
all that, I mean, okay, sure, but that doesn't That
didn't solve the problem. And the problem is that people
who have not developed these players and not put the

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winning team on the diet. Yeah, they need to do
something they haven't done in a long time, which is
go outside the Rockies family for that next GM, get
some fresh ideas inside the building and going back to
you know, maybe them losing all these games is what
spurs change because nothing else has done it so far.
And it's not like the Rockies have been super competitive

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over the last decade, you know, ever since October in
two thousand and seven, they've got two three playoff appearances.
It hasn't been a super competitive stretch, and they continue
to go with this overly loyal model. To your point,
something has to shake them out of it, and I
think that this might be it, because I think they

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do care about winning games.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
You look at their payroll, which I think makes the
losing that much more embarrassing. They're like the twentieth or
so Fifteeth's not like they're paid last in payroll.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
They're investing in the team. It's just awful investments. Yeah,
and it has been the wrong choices all for the
last half decade or so. You know, I think you,
I think you moved on from Tuluwitzki at the right point.
But you know, the Aeronato thing. You moved on from him,
You paid money to do it, and then you turn
around and allocate that money to a player the two

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franchises didn't want any part of. And Chris Bryant, the
Chicago Cubs, who you know, moved him to the Giants.
The Giants got to look at him and say, those
guys cooked on his back, we don't want him. And
then the Rockies just line up to shower him with money,
and I don't. I'd never understood their obsession with Chris Bryant,
did not and never understood that. And then you know,
I mean, you've had some other moves where you've let

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guys go that we're still productive, that couldn't hung on
to guys you probably should have should have moved. I mean,
the Charlie Blackman thing, I get it. It was kind
of the only it was kind of the only move
you had at that point because that was the bankable
guy that had been around forever. But keeping Charlie Blackman
as long as you did was that, you know, did
that really help? You know?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's another I think that's such a good example of
what the franchise has been doing for so long, though,
you know, just with that, you know, is this the
best guy for the job?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Maybe? Maybe not.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Is it the guy we're familiar with and really like
and is quote unquote our guy? Yes, And so he's
going to remain that second basement. He's going to remain
our GM or assistant GM or whatever it may be.
And I think that's why it's been the same thing
over and over again, and the batting average hasn't improved.
It continues to be some really poor investments, and they

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seem to be training in the wrong direction there.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
That they do quite a few texts coming in. Savintuo says,
there is no hope, just a great ballpark. Fans go
for the Abbiance and the other teams. That's a fact. Well,
that's sort of about getting at right that Dick Mofford has,
and it's an underrated component. Dick Moffort has the fan
experience part down. You should ask around at other franchises
that don't have that down. Dick Moffort's got the fans
in mind. Like, I'm not sitting here trying to be

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the biggest Dick Monfort's stand in Denver. But I think
the guy gets slightly an undue amount of hatred which
he does put together and the entertaining evening for you,
even if the product on the field stinks, the rest
of it's fun. You know, the ballpark's great, the party
deck has great, the atmosphere down there, McGregor Square, all
that stuff that's all fun. That's all great. We're not
complaining about any of that, and Dick Mofford has a

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big hand in that. The problem here is the on
field product and the people that Dick Mofford has because
Dick Moffort's not making those decisions. Bick Mofford isn't sitting
there as a general matter. He doesn't know baseball like that.
He knows how to make money and a good job
at that. The problem is these baseball guys that got
in there, and they've taken a team that that was
competitive at one point half decade ago, they were competitive

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and turned it into a complete, completely uncompetitive on just
unmitigated disaster, honestly. And so that's the thing. And then
Dick Moffort the problem, this is too loyal case these
guys around, shuffles the deck chairs on the Titanic, giving
these guys different job titles or whatever, they shuffle them around.
You know, I get it, it's hard to it's hard
to fire guys you like, but dude, we're at that point.

(06:31):
We're at the point you already fired Bud Block right.
There's there's nobody left to sit there and pass the
buck to anymore. It's time to rebuild the organization from
the inside out with people that have a fresh perspective
on what is needed to win in Major League Baseball.
And I think that willingness to spend or invest in
the product demonstrates that there is hope, like he could change,

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He could learn these lessons. It hasn't happened yet, and
I think that's why the fan base is so frustrated.
But it could happen, you.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Know, he could find that this season is going to
be very loud and very hard to ignore for someone
that I do think cares about winning, you know, I
think for a lot of these billionaires. Dave Tepper, the
Panthers owner, being another great example.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
What a great name ruined just one individual. What an
outstanding and some you know, genius name. Go ahead, But.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yes, Dave Tepper is another one where they've been incredibly
successful businessmen and they try and carry their business strategies
into the sports world and it's not one to one.
And I think Dick Monfort being a very loyal boss
who fights for his guys and has a great positive culture,
you know, in his executive suites, and maybe throughout the

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company has served him really well and he's tried to
carry that over to the Rockies and they need fresh
ideas now him be willing to invest. Maybe he's willing
to go to some of the brightest front offices in
the MLB and poach some of their best names with
a large amount of money. I mean, he gave it
to Chris Bryant. Why not give it to one of
the That's right, it's up and coming.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Scouts, That's what I'm saying. It's our scouting department is
it bad. It's it's been the development through the farm
system and the decision making at the top. And I
think that's the thing. You know, there's a lot of
If you've been involved in the business world and you've
made a lot of money, there's an inherent arrogance that
comes with that. Right. It's I'm not saying it's not earned,
but there's an inherent arrogance that comes with that. And
you think the decisions that you make are going to

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be the right. You know, you're going with your gut's
going to be the way to go because you've always
trusted it. It made a bunch of money. But I don't
think Dick Mofford puts his thumb on the scale on
baseball decisions, you know. I from what I understand, Dik
does a great job of, like you know, creating an atmosphere,
making sure that the pulse of the fan, making sure
that the money with the ballpark, I mean, that's a
great ballpark. That's a great ballpark. I've been the most

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major League ballparks. I think there's like a five or
swelves probably close to eight or nine now, but but
at one point it was like five or six parks
I hadn't been to now it's now it's like eight
or nine, but I've been a moment. It's a great ballpark.
It's fun and like I said, it's a fun atmosphere,
and there's a value to having an owner that values
creating that kind of atmosphere. But that owner also has

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to be able to say, Okay, the other component of
this the synergy that I'm supposed to have with these
guys who are running the baseball operations point because I
don't know baseball like that, they're not getting it done.
And changing titles on guys, moving them around the front
office or whatever that's that's not helping. Like it just
keeps the same the same failed ideas in there. So
I'm hoping that somebody can get in front of Dick

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Monfort and say, look, I get it. And there's an
admirable quality the loyalty that you've had, but it's time
to cut bait, it's time to start over, and it's
time for a radical restructuring of that front office to
get guys in there that have new ideas because what
you've tried has not worked. What they built has not worked.
It's taken a team that was competitive. Even if they weren't,

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you know great, they were least competitive and turned it
into into one of the worst teams ever. Three h three.
This is the worst record since the Cleveland Spinders of
eighteen ninety nine, who were twelve after sixty games. That's
still two games better than the Rocky Star. Yeah, this
is worse ever. Yeah you know four one seven, Ben.
Listen to you and the Og Triple OG on Friday's podcast.

(10:11):
Very clear, Now, Ryan isn't a closet communist. His hate
for the American Classic top Gun stems from his sibling
rivalry with his older brother Anthony. Referring to Anthony Edwards
the actor, obviously they're related. Also, Ryan Edwards related to
Anthony Edwards the guard from the Minnesota Temperls. The resemblance
is Unkenny. I went, I knew that way. It just
leaves out of here. How could his parents not favor
Anthony after a performance like he had his goose saying

(10:34):
Ryan's parents sums, I have more of an appreciation for
Ryan's angst. Now that said, there really is no excuse
for using karat cake as a coping mechanism. I think
you need to do Ryan a favorite stage in intervention,
maybe a mountain retreat, no carrot cake in sight. Let
me know and I can hook you up. I know
a guy sincerely a Rogers.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Do you think it's a facial hair thing? I mean,
but Ryan's got a great beard. But do you think
it's like dang, These are some of the few guys
that that that's a sweet mustache and might have.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Ryan Evers is jealous of the stash, like he's got
the sweet sweet beer.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's got a sweep ear, but he's like, damn, that
is a sweet stash. The there's like a just full
offsh I'm in the ninety fifth percentile of facial hair.
These guys are in the ninety eighth percent file screw top.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Gun, Well, I'm in the one percent tile So the
wrong way whichever way is the worst. That That's where
I'm at with it, and it's it's terrible. It just
this is like a week's worth of growth here and
you could barely see it. Yeah, I can. I was
doing it. I was doing TV earlier and they were
like that was that was one of the things that
were like, yeah, it was like we didn't have to
put the makeup on you because you just have the
you know, that's not even hiding the you know, hide

(11:37):
the pseudo beer. It's just next day stubble for a week. Perfect.
He save a lot of money on razors. Well, I don't.
I haven't used a razor since I left the army.
I made a vow never let a razor touch my
face again. What do you use electric? Use an electric?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, so yeah, just to trim it down to you know,
driven down or whatever. But yeah, I don't. I actually
I would set a razor burd really bad from uh
and it was like I'll bumps all over my neck
and you know, is look like I had patches of
the you know, the mange or something that was not good.
So anyway, uh, five six six nine here, you guys
want to get involved in conversation. Got a little bit
in an NFL six back cought up here in a

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few minutes. A little bit of football news out there.
The I don't know if you guys saw this. The
Jags have been an alternating Travis Hunter between receiver and corner
down there in practice. One side of the ball would
like to have him a little bit more often. He's
not working on both sides of the ball the same day.
He's been on the offense more during this phase of

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the program. But hey, coach Liam Cohen says he's heard
from secondary coach Ron Millis at the arrangement and said
he came out to the natural practice that can we
have him more so they weren't wanting him more on
defense com and also said Hunters quickly made himself at
home in the secondary. You can definitely see how natural
it is for him. Still learning, still growing, still trying
to learn the calls as much as possible. That's a
quote via of Liam Collins via Justin Lewis of the

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Florida Times Union. But he also says, but when you
when you see him in the actual seven on in
team setting, he doesn't look out of place by any means.
His offensive work has obviously earned him some positive notices
early in his time with the Jags, with plenty of
interest to see if he can thrive on the defensive
side as well. So it looks like Jackson is going
to do what I've been suggesting the entire time, which

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is he's a wide receiver with some corner packages and
not the other way around.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, and I think that's the harder way to do it,
just because corners a reactive position and you have to know,
I think just a lot more where receiver. You know,
you can scheme up five, six, seven plays, and it's
may be easier to have a smaller package on that side,
but receiver is the more valuable position, and he is
a remarkable talent on both sides of the ball. That's
where I would want to primarily deploy him. The story

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does highlight an interesting thing I never thought of during
the draft process, which and this story I think is
a lighthearted one. I don't think it's actual drama. But
he's going to be one of the It's what Dean
Sanders Alway said about Hm.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
He's going to be one of your best receivers. He's
going to be one of your best cornerbacks.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Does it become a point of can tension maybe between
these coordinators where it's like, hey, I would love some
help at cornerback, why can't I use this guy more?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Or vice versa. Yeah, I think that's you know that,
that's sort of the thing everybody's always wondered, like, where's
his primary home going to be? It's the NFL. You
just you can't play both sides of the ball game.
It's just not possible, like you know, like it is
in college football. And where's this home going to be.
I think I would have started him at corner and
give them some wide receiver packages. But they went the
other way with it wide receiver and give them some
corner packages. I think you're right, that is the more

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difficult way to do it, less natural because you've got
to ingratiate yourself in certain situations on defense. But you know,
we'll see. And I suspect that by year four, year
five in the league he's one side of the ball only.
But the novelty of it, certainly early on, is going
to be it's going to be fun. It'd be interesting
to see if they make them the putt returner as well.
He's done some had some return work. That's been something

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that they you know, that they've talked about. So we'll
see if that's you know, if that's the thing as well.
But you know, if you're if you're Jacksonville, you gave
up a ton to go up there to two and
get him, you know you and with the sort of
thought that you're drafting two players for the price of one.
I don't know if you're really doing that, but you know,

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I think that there's that versatility is certainly going to
be fascinating to watch this season and see exactly how
they how they use that. We've got to hit a break.
We get an NFL six pack when we come back.
Right here on Kawa posts Rocky's addition five sixty six

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nine zeros text line, you guys want to get involved
in the conversations with he sixty four six is what's
your take on Michael Pennix. I don't really have a
take on that. I wasn't a big Penis fan coming
out of Washington. I'm still not a big I didn't
see anything last year that led me to believe that he's,
you know, going to be a superstar in this league.
But now he's got a full off season immersion in
that offense, we'll see what he can become. I do
like Zach Robinson, you know, as a coordinator, but Pennix

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is a left handed quarterback. They tend to strugg in
the league. I mean, even the even the best of
them tend to struggle in the league. Is because everything
is built for righty's It's not like Madden where you
could just flip the play like you have to rework
everything out in terms of how many steps somebody's going
this direction, the ball spins with the opposite rotation the receivers.
You know, being being a left he has disadvantages. In
the NFL. We've seen guys succeed Steve Young. We've seen

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we've seen guys succeed as left handers, but it's not
you know, it's not as prevalent as you think. And
it's certainly a vick. I believe he was a left
hander and he had you know, he had a cannib
but he had you know, he had consistency and and
problems with with stuff early. So it was such a
dynamic runner that the throwing aspect was knew was Steve Young.
I mean, honestly, yes, especially, and so that's that, you know,

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I think those things, those things helped. Pannis is not
the world's greatest athlete in terms of doing all that,
and he's probably not going to take off for much yardage.
It's gonna be interesting to see the offense they run
because they've got Kyle Pitts on the trading block, and
I would I think they want to get rid of him.
I think they want to start running three wide two back.
I think they want to run gun two back with
three wides and they can use Pits as a heavy slot,

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but they want to They want to run caderrel Hodge
out of the slot if if at all possible, and
I think that's that's sort of what they want to do.
They don't want to They don't even want to use
it a tight end, and that in most of their
most of their packages, unless they're getting down there and
having to pick up short yardage. Uh, they want to
spread you out and and panics. If you go back
and look at Washington, that's kind of what they ran,

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you know, the they ran a lot of gun two
back with with three wide outs out there, and so
you know, I think they want to get him back
to what he's comfortable with and and those kinds of things.
So bottom line, I don't know. I mean what I
saw looked very pedestrian, very average. The best left e
of this generation is what Tua and and he's probably
on the way out, you know, in Miami after this season.

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He's just not you know, Betweet injuries and everything else.
He's just never lived up to you know, the draft position,
so it'll be it'll be interesting to see anyway, Le's
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Speaker 2 (18:13):
Up here, we've got the Detroit Lions and their superstar center,
Frank Ragnow, who announced today despite not even being thirty,
after just seven seasons in the league, that he will
be retiring from the NFL. Do you think Ragnow was
the best center in the league prior to his retirement?
You know, kind of taking that nntle from Jason Kelcey

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after his retirement. And how big of a blow do
you think this is to Detroit super Bowl hope so
late in the offseason.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, Detroit prepared for it. They drafted Tate Radlice this
past year, so they'd sort of prepared for it. In fact,
they're three deep at the center position. They get Kingsley
Iguan and Michael Niseh in addition to him, so they've
got a nisse. It came from San Francisco. Eggae Cohn
was I think he was a street free agent last year.

(19:04):
I can't remember, but Brattles. Of course, they drafted in
the second round, so you know, I think they were
prepared for that. As far as what does it do
for their you know, Super Bowl, I mean, they lost
an offensive a defensive coordinator. It's gonna be a bit
of an adjustment for the Lions as they sort of
reset a little bit this year. Obviously, Aaron Glenn's now
they head coach of the the New York Jets have

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Ben Johnson, they head coach of the Chicago Bears. Uh,
the defensive new defensive cordiors Kelvin Sheppard, and they're OC
is the Broncos wide receiver coach from last year, John Morton,
So it's gonna be interesting to see, uh, you know,
how that goes. John Morton's been in OC before. A
lot of what he ran was was more dink and
dunk type stuff, a lot more shaded in the West

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Coast than it was than what they were running last
year Detroit, where they attacked the mid game quite a
bit with the passing attacks. It'd be interesting to see
what that offense looks like just in general with Morton
run the show this year. Yeah, I have faith in
Dan Campbell I.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Think he's shown the ability to build a really good staff,
but he hasn't had to replace coaches at this level before.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
You know, you're replacing the brightest.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Young play color and you know, defensive coach who has
already made such an imprint on the New York Jets
and they haven't even played a game.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
For him yet. Yeah, I I don't think this ragnow thing.
I mean, it'll hart him a little because he's a
good player, but I think they're I think they prepared
for it. And he was already kind of squirrely about
his contract there Detroit anyway, So I don't know, you know,
I don't know if his retirement is really a one
year retirement, you know kind of thing. But he put

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out there that he wasn't feeling you know, I wasn't
feeling well enough to play or whatever. And we'll see,
we'll see other coast who.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
NFL dot Com ranked the Buffalo Bills as the Super
Bowl List franchise most likely I should say Lombardi list
franchise most likely to break their drought this season. They
followed the Bills with the Detroit Lions in number or
in second place, the Minnesota Vikings in third, the Cincinnati
Bengals in fourth, and the Houston Texans in fifth. What

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do you make of that top five? And who do
you think has the second best chance out of that bunch?
Just because I feel like most people would agree that
the Bills are the favorite.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, I would say I like the Bills selection here.
I don't like any of the rest of these. I
don't think Houston is gonna be I mean, even though
they're in a crappy division, they're gonna wrack up some wins.
I don't think that they're going to be appreciably better
than they were last year. The Vikings are probably taking
a step backwards with JJ McCarthy as a rookie stepping
in a quarterback. The Bengals are they even gonna be

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able to feel the defense? And they're neither one of
their ends have signed. Jamar Stewart's signed yet because I
hadn't seen that, and I know Trey Anderson hasn't signed,
so they neither one of their defensive ends have signed.
And that's those are the only two good players have
got on defense. And then you've got the Detroit Lions,
who are resetting at the offensive and defensive coordinator both
those teams I think are all these teams I think

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are teams that have glaring reasons why they have it.
They aren't particularly I don't think they're particularly front runners.
If you're looking at other teams that could return to
glory this year, I think the NFC East has got
some good teams. I think Baltimore could get back to
a Super Bowl for the first time in a while.

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I think Arizona's gonna sneak up on some people this
year in the West. That's something to keep your eye.
And then you know, the South, you know, I don't
know if Tampa's got enough to you know, to put
it all together there and and become something to get
back to it. It hasn't been that long for them.
I don't think any of the other teams the NFC
South are really contenders.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, I like the Lions pick because maybe the coordinator
hires do work out. I think it should be an adjustment,
but you know, I think there's realities where they do
hit on the ires. Their infrastructure is strong enough and
you know they're right back in it. The Bengals pick
might be my favorite, though. I think that offense is
going to be elite the year after year, and defense
is high variance, it's hard to maintain an elite defense.
That's why the Broncos went out and added so much

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to try and stave off that regression. I think, you know,
in that same way, it's hard to be a horrifically
bad defense year over year.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
And if they're just kind of bad, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
If they're the twentieth best defense in the league, I
think they have a formula that on offense that's good
enough to win them a super bow.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I think they're gonna have to strive to get to twenty.
That secondary is trash, and you got one guy that
can rush the passer in Trey Henderson. I mean, unless
you think that TJ. Slayton is suddenly gonna gonna bust
up the inside or you know, BJ Hill. They got
Joseph Asai on the outside, Like, there's nobody that can
rush the passer in this defense. And there's secondary is
Cam Taylor Britt who was a liability and coverage they've

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they've got DJ Turner and Dax Hill. Neither one of
those guys are you know, great. And then the safeties
or Jordan Battle and Gino Stone and those guys aren't
good either. I mean it's that secondary is bad. It
has been bad. But I think I'm buying some of
the the.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Al Golden hype a little. I think they're banking on
it too hard. I wish they did that and made
some additions, but Luanna.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
System was so mentally taxing.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
They turned over this defense with a lot of young,
inexperienced players. Maybe getting the guy like Al Golden who
has recently been coaching players, can just let them, you know,
play free, play fast. Maybe that gets them, you know again,
from being like thirty second to twentieth, and I think
that that would be.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Enough for him. Maybe three.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Another ranking for you, nfl dot Com ranked the Denver
Broncos as the NFL's tenth most complete roster in the NFL,
trailing from one to nine. Here the Eagles, the Ravens,
the Lions, the Chiefs, the Bills, the Vikings, the Bucks,
the Packers, and the forty nine ers. Any takeaways from
that top ten and do you think the Broncos should

(24:45):
be any higher?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I'm not sure I would have the Vikings ahead of them.
All those teams have elite defenses. That Broncos offensive line
is significantly better than the Vikings. I think what you're
counting on here is the receivers and running backs for
the Vikings. But I'm not sure you got a bat,
you got an O line. It's it's bad he paid
Will Fries all that money and he may not play
because you got he's gonna neednother surgery. I think right guard,

(25:07):
you might have to ring Dulton Riser back. You got J. J.
McCarthy back there as a rookie quarterback. I don't know, man,
I mean, I don't know if i'd had the Vikings
and in the Niners. You know, you just paid Rock
Purty all that money you got you coming back off injury.
You let go of Deebo Samuel, I let go with
some of the running back depth. They're not sure if

(25:27):
McCaffrey's gonna be you know one hundred. Uh you've got.
You've got some defensive players you let go of, and
Trey Greenlaw and and uh Hufaga, who by the way,
came to Tenver. I don't know, man. The Niners, I
think you may see a little regression there this year
in terms of you know, their strangle hold on that division.
I don't like Seattle in that division. I think they're
the worst team there. And the Rams. I mean, Stafford's

(25:48):
stre near forty. If he's not already forty, I can't remember.
You know, they've got they've got some players, but they
let Cooper Cup go and you know they got a
really young defense, but the offense there's I don't know, man,
someone is right for that division anyway. All that to say,
I think Denver could be two spots higher. Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm really surprised the forty nine ers made the top
ten because I think their rosters very questionable. You know, quarterback,
they've got a good option. I don't think they've got
a guy who's you know, carrying all the other holes
on that roster. The offensive line has some great pieces,
but it also has some real holes. Weapons have some
a lot of question marks at running back, wide receiver,
like you highlighted debos out of there now lost a

(26:27):
lot of pieces on defense. I think there's a question
mark at every single level of their defense. I'm I'm
really surprised they were the ninth most complete roster in that. Yeah,
you got five new starters on defense and not marquee guys,
and I'm like, oh, they seven on the two deep.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Like think they was so much turnover on that defense.
Alfred Collins, Michael Williams, Nick Martins are rookies. They're going
to start. Trey Brown comes over from Seattle, played the corner,
and then Malik Gustava, you know, at a free Safty,
but he's hurt, so you're probably starting Jason Pinnock, who
you got from the Giants. I don't I mean, I
don't know that I call that complete. There's there's a

(27:02):
lot of turnover on that defense for.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Stefan Diggs returned to the Patriots practice field today no
fun dip as part of the team's O t A schedule.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
What do you think will happen next? In the Stefan
Digs saga? Nothing? I mean you can't. Like I said
when we were having the conversation with Nick, it's paying
fun dip. Prove it, prove one, prove one. Won't they
test him? I mean they're gonna have he'll go through
the NFL's you know you're an housis, But you know,
I mean whenever that is. I mean, as long as
he's hydrating himself and flushing, he should be good by then.

(27:39):
So you don't think he'll get suspended. There'll be no
I don't think he'll get caught. There's no I mean,
there's nothing. We all know what it was, but we
don't know what it was. So you know, it's it's
tough to I don't it's tough to sit there and
come up with a way to get him. There's no charges,
there's no you know, you didn't you didn't see him

(28:00):
using anything. How are you what are you gonna? What
are you guys suspend him for conduct detrimental?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
What?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
What? What did you do? Was detrimental? So you know,
end of the day, like I said, if you're Stefan Diggs,
you're rolling the shaggy defense. What me? You know you
rolling in the It was it was big fund to
prove what five? Sorry.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Liam Cohen shut down the notion of the Jacksonville Jaguars
trading Travis E. Ten today, saying that Etn has done
everything the staff has asked of him. Do you think
he was noncommitted though about whether or not they would
trade him? Just you know, when asked the question, he said, Hey,
this guy's been awesome for us. He's done everything we've
asked of him. Do you think Eatn will still be

(28:40):
a Jaguar when Week one rolls around, and what teams
do you think might be interested in the Travis Etn
sweepstakes if he is available.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well, they added a bunch of running backs. They added
Vischel Tuten and Leaquinn Allen in the draft. The Jacquinin
Jackson they added as a free agent. They already had
Tank Bigsby and Keila Robinson on top at end, So
there's odd men out here. I think there's a roster
spot for him if he If he sticks, I think
he gives you a different dimension that eventually you'll want
to rotate Allan and Tooting in there. But you know,

(29:11):
Bigsby's a little bit more of a power pop, you know,
kind of running back uh. And then at the end,
you know he catches well out of the backfield. Uh.
And I think that's his I think that's his strength.
You could get him on some jet motion, use him
in the slot, you could, you could kind of what
he really fits is more of an Alvin Kamara type role.
That's that's his home, if you could, If you could
find that sort of role for him on this team.

(29:32):
And I don't know that they'll necessarily do that. That
wasn't really what Cohen did when he was in down
there in Tampa. There's a lot of young talent on
the on this team, a lot of new bodies on
this team, but he's one of the guys that knows,
you know, the rest of the roster. I could see
him sticking in Jacksonville. I know everybody keeps talking about trading,

(29:54):
but I could see him sticking there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
And what are you gonna get at this point in
the off season that's really gonna help you? And you know,
Liam Cohens brought in there to help Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I don't know how complete a.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Back and Travis etn is, but he has, you know,
got a great relationship with Laurence dating back to college
and is a nice checkdown option who can create an
explosive out of nothing.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah. And like I said, I you know, he can
pass pro a little bit a catch out of the backfield.
I think I think that's the biggest the biggest part
of all this is he gives uh, you know, Trevor
Lawrence a dump down option that's reliable, where maybe Bigsby
that's not his strength. And until Bischeltuton becomes the guy,
you know, at the end, still has value on that
roster six.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Today, the Eagles trade of Bryce Huffed to the San
Francisco forty nine ers in exchange for a twenty twenty
six mid round draft pick was officially completed. Who do
you think won this deal and will Huff return to
form now that he's reunited with former Jets head coach
Robert Robert Solomhi.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Everybody wins, I guess, I mean, you gave away what
are you going to get with that pick? You know,
if it's a if Huff becomes what you hope that
he can be, then you weren't gonna get anything better
than that with that fourth round pick anyway. So you know,
for me, I I look at that and that's how

(31:15):
I value it, Like, what were you going to get
with that pick? You know at the end of the day.
And so I think, I think this is an everybody
wins kind of thing. That Eagles have done a good
job of getting, you know, value out of the picks
that they and they've done a great job with drafting
over the last you know, a few years. And then
on top of that, I mean, you know, San Francisco
needed what Huff brings to the table, and so he's familiar,

(31:38):
he's familiar with the defense, already knows the knows the
staff on the defensive side. So that's you know, I
think it's one of those situations where it's kind of
everybody wins. I don't really, you know, I didn't think
it was that bad of a deal. Yeah. I think
it's a great deal. And I think this is what
makes how He Roseman so great.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You know, he has his misses, but he's good at
flipping Bryce Suffo guy whouldn't get on the field for
him last year and turning into a top one hundred tick.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, maybe they miss on it, but it's something. Yeah,
I agree, and I, like I said, one of those
rare situations where everybody wins. You guys, listen to Broncos
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