06-03-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight with Cody Roark

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Won. One. Pitch is hit pretty well to center field,
going back. Doyle on the warning track leaps up and
grabs it, and that's the ball game. The Rockies have
won their first series of the year after nineteen series losses.

(00:20):
They've taken two here in Miami. Final score tonight Rockies
three Miami two.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
We're good. Streak game. That's right, We're going streaking here
on Rockies Country Tonight. Renamed ourselves after winners. That's how
we do. Benjamin Albright, Grant Smith here with you. Five six,
six nine zero is the text line short show post
Rocky zusition. Cody Rourke and I join us top of
the hour in an NFL six pack a little bit
later as well. It'll be uh, it'll be fun to

(00:50):
do Rockies two in a row. We're eleven and fifty.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hey two and our in our last two games.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
If if we doubled our wind total, we would still
be below the twenty three and thirty six Miami Marlins.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
You gotta look at the positives, ben I yesterday I
spent quite a bit of time opining about the positives,
and I will I'm not gonna get too negative here
as I sort of laugh about us, you know, getting
off the schneid and.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Losing nineteen series in a row and finally busting that streak.
But you know, I mean, we spent a lot of
time yesterday talking about how I think Dick Monford unfairly
shoulders certain aspects of blame with the Rockies. Dick Montfort
goes to great lengths to create a good fan experience.
The stadium is fun, the surrounding area is fun. And

(01:42):
I think as an owner, he's invested in that, and
you could do a lot worse than an owner that's
invested in that. I think where he airs or where
he has a problem, he's the baseball people that he's
hired don't know what they're doing and just flat out
have taken a contender and a competitor and turned it
into a terrible baseball team. And he's too loyal to

(02:05):
those people. He just shuffles the deck chairs on the Titanic,
giving people new new job titles and stuff, instead of
cleaning house and getting fresh ideas in there. One of
the things they didn't get to last night that I
want to talk about was maybe go out there and
hire a Hideki Kurayama, you know, go out there and
find the brightest minds in Japanese baseball and bring that
and try and shake something up. Karaami is famously the

(02:28):
mentor for Shoyatti, one of the winningest managers in Japanese
baseball history, sixty four years old. Bring him in as
a consultant, let him help him, you know, to hire
people and put people around. The man knows baseball, he
played baseball. Manage baseball, you know, Brett Reed, try something
different because what they've been doing hasn't been working. That said,
as to in a row, I want to celebrate two

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in row rather than lament the other fifty or so
losses that we have at this point, you.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Know, on pace to break the all time record. Yeah,
very easy.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And that's that's the way I want to you know,
that's that's the record I'm I'm really good at for chat.
Donalder got the start today. The win goes to Victor Vodnick,
who's one of one of the seasons at Halverson with
to save his third of the season. San Die al
Contaro was the starter for Miami. Anthony Bender got the loss.
Moves to one and four on the season. Home run
for Hunter Goodman, who's making a pretty good case for

(03:22):
the All Star Game. He's played great, He's he's played
really well this year. He's he's making himself a bit
of a case for UH for the All Star Game.
You know, I would say that he's probably the second
or third best catcher in the NFL and in the
NL right now. So he's he's been playing, uh, playing
pretty good ball. The interesting thing, uh, Kyle Stowers of

(03:43):
Miami this two for four, he's been slumping a little bit.
Uh a guy with with ten homers, but he just
he cannot seem to find a way to uh to
hit the ball out of the park over the last
couple of weeks. H and Miami has has just been
a struggling franchise this year. I say, struggling with twenty
three and thirty six looks light years ahead of where
we are at this point. So uh, you know, beggars
can't be choosers when it comes to the you know

(04:04):
the criticism on that, but five six, six, nine zero,
we're uh, we are taking your text and I want
to hear from you guys. So we already got one
h Monfort needs to go. And you know I went
over this yesterday. I mean look, Dick Montfort, I don't
know who Dick Moffort needs to go. He's an order
that cares. He's got He's built a team that generates
profit and generates money. Uh, he's built a great fan experience.

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All those kinds of things, and those are things you
want out of an owner, right, and his hands off
on the baseball side, you'd be basically basically if you
diagrammed out the perfect owner, it kind of you kind
of look at Dick Moffort, He's all right, these are
the qualities that you want the problem with Dick Monfort
is he's been too loyal to the baseball guys that
he hired, and the baseball guys that he's hired have
been frankly bad at their job. They have not drafted well,

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they haven't developed well, they haven't signed free agents well.
They they've made terrible mistakes with shipping off Nolan Aaronado
and paying, you know, millions of dollars to do it,
to pay the money to Chris Bryant, a player that
the two franchises didn't want in Chicago and San Francisco
if they got to look at his medicals. So you know, Dick.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Momford gets the blame everywhere in town for this, But
I'm not sure Dick Momford is the villain so much
as he has yet to remove the villains from the
positions that they're in. Yeah, and maybe two hands off
as an otner and you don't hear that very ich right,
but that.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
May be the case. He might be a little I mean,
Dick Monfort knows what he doesn't know on the baseball
side of things, and so he empowered people to do
the job.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
The problem is the power that people empowered were very good.
But to your point, the fan experience is great. I've
been to I think five or six games this year
and there's been I mean, granted they've been weekend games mostly,
but there's been thirty thousand plus at most of the
games I have gone to. There were forty seven thousand
when the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Were in town. The Miami Marlins have double the wins
of the Colorado Rockies on the season. More than double. Actually,
they have twenty three wins on the season. They had
five thousand people show up at the game at about
the same yesterday.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, and I was talking to Jesse Thomas, our engineer
and producer for the Rockies he said he thinks they
were less tonight than there were last night, And I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I believe it. Looking at the scene, looking at the
shots from the crowd, I believe it. You know that
is that they're playing in front of then empty park.
So what I will say in Dick Moffort's defense is
that Dick Mofford has done a good job of crafting
a fan experience that people still want to go out
to even when the team's a loser.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's still fun. Then you've got McGregor square right there,
which is a blast. You can hit that before and
after the game.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
The fan experience, yeah, I mean I used to live there.
I know how. The fan experience that he is crafted
there is is good. I mean, it's top tier coursefield's
a good ballpark. It's a fun experience. The problem is
the on field product again in the baseball people, and
he's got the clean out. You can't just fire a
guy and then promote his lieutenant and expect things to change.

(06:56):
And that's sort of been the problem. You've got to
You've got a front office there, a guy who are
doing their best to stay employed instead of doing their
best to you know, win championships.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, and you go back he held on to Jeff
Bridich for so long. Then you bring in Bill Schmidt,
someone who I think he's a great baseball guy, but
obviously his message is not resonating and he's not bringing
in the right people as the acting GM now. And
like you said, you bring in Warren Shaffer, who's a
positive guy, bring in some more energy to the team,

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but he's still a guy that was already within the organization.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I'm less worried about the Warren Schaeffer portion of that
because baseball is such a player dependent sport. It's like basketball.
I mean, yeah, the coach sort of matters, but the
reality is, I mean, you know, the players really make
the difference. It's not like football, where coach can make
a huge difference or a huge detriment. It's the it's
the front office portion. It's that from Bill Schmidt on down.

(07:49):
You know, I don't doubt that Bill Schmidt knows baseball,
but he doesn't what he's doing and what he has
tried to do has not worked. And it's taken a
competitive franchise and made it a laughing stock. And it's
a combination. It's not any one thing. It's not like
there's it's not just one thing, one glaring thing that
we can look at and say, hey, this is the problem.
We need to fix this. It's everything. It's the drafting,

(08:11):
it's the development, it's the free agent spends. You know,
what are you doing? You're paying? You knew Chris Brian
had a bad back. The clubs do it. The Giants
knew it. Two teams had that guy and said, yeah,
he's got a bad back. We don't want anything to
do with him. And the Rockies were like, hey, here's
Nolan Aronado's money. At the end of the day, like

(08:32):
you can't make you can't make decisions like that, expect
to stick around.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, and you know, you think you talked about you know,
kind of as not we haven't been around a long time,
but a pretty storied franchise from our time as the
Blake Street Bombers and then the run we went on
to the World Series that during October and now the
only time you hear people talk about the Rockies on
national media is to make fun of them. And you
hear Jeff Passon, who's you know, kind of the void

(09:00):
of the MLB talk about how the Rockies franchise is
a disease of complacency.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, and it's just it's hard to listen to. And
that's the thing you need to get, you know, get
those people out of there. I'm dead serious. I floated
the name out there earlier. I'm dead serious. Go out
there and buy do what it takes. Because he's retired
from managing sixty four years old. Go get Hideki Kurayama.
Go get Hideki Kurayama from Japanese baseball. Bring him over
here because he has a storied history of developing great players.

(09:28):
Sho hal Tani's one of the one of the players.
He has a storied history of doing finding players, developing players.
Get his baseball mind inside the organization and inside the building.
You don't necessarily have to hire him his GM, but
put a boatload of money in front of him as
a consultant and have him put the right people in
place and go from there. And I do believe that
that you can you can win here in Colorado. I

(09:49):
believe the Rockies can win. We've seen them win before.
But I just don't think that that with the current
people in place and the current entrenched culture that you've
go to foster a winning environment.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Here's a positive text on the text line five six
six nine zero, Ben and Grant Rockies win series. Will
you have your brooms ready for tomorrow for Andy?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, I'm keeping the broom on standby. We get a sweep,
it's it's over. We get a sweep, it's you know,
it's on. I said we're going streaking. I might come
in here going streak and Nick Ferguson will have to averticize.
I'm just saying, speaking of which, I got a marathon
day of radio tomorrow programming, though it'll be uh. We
get the Rockies on midday, so I'll be filling in

(10:33):
for Ross's half hour before the Rockies starts. I'll be
filling in for Mandy Connell after the Rockies finish, and
of course we'll be on Broncos Country right here tomorrow
night with Nick Ferguson, and I believe that Segers will
be in producing. I'll be here tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
You will be Oh, you will be okay, Zack Segers
will come in for the six pack all right. Seagers
will be with you on Thursday Thursday, okay, and we
will almost nailed that programming. We will have Steve Atwater
in studio from six to seven.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, that'll be good stuff. I'm already excited about this tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Will you be talking Here's what I want to know
as a curious listener. Will you be talking politics or
we'd be talking rockies when you're filling in for Ross
and Mandy.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Ross will probably just preview. I mean, there's no time
to get into it. We got up one segment with Mandy.
Will be a mixture of things. I'm getting. One of
the topics we're going to get into is a study
that uh and and we'll get into this tomorrow, but
a study that I read and I was going over
with our friendly land Comway and and Christian Toto. There's
a study out there that apparently women prefer the dad bod,

(11:32):
and my dating history would suggest otherwise.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, so like the Six Pact.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like all those kinds. So like there's this study out there,
like two to one, right, and I'll get into it,
breaking all down and go like we'll go over there
and we'll see maybe we'll get some ladies that that
are listening to to, you know, to kind of be
able to give their input on it, because I still
can't believe this, Like this study was like several thousand
women and they prefer the pair shaped man to a
ripped guy. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not buying you know, Uh,

(11:59):
the flabby physic zeek is the new sexy because we're
not seeing Paul Giamatti sex scenes in movies.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, maybe Hollywood is just late to catch up. Maybe
this is good news.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Though. Now we can just drink more beer and do
less workout. Hey, I'm I'm you know what, I'm here
for it.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But like we'll put it in front of the people
tomorrow and figure I can't wait to hear.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, figure that out. Carrie Sports Today he sat down,
they had a chance to talk to Ian Rappaport from
NFL Network. He had some thoughts on a number of topics.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, this is starting out with him talking about Frank
Ragno's retirement and if he was surprised by it.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
This is something that I think has been in you know, consideration,
dog process wise. I mean he's been weighing for probably
a couple probably a couple of weeks. I think, you know,
the Lions have known about it.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
They've kind of been aware of maybe where he's leading.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
And look, it's a seven year career he's been one
of the best in the NFL dis position, he's been
one of the hard beats of that Lion's offensive line.
But he's been through a lot. I mean, he really has.
I mean, this is a guy who has been and
injured a lot, has played through a lot of injuries,
has always been available, has always been something you can
count on. But that comes at a cost. And you know,

(13:10):
at a Hones drafted.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
The interior offensive live.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
And high this year sort of you know to me
knowing that his days might be numbered. So I would
say it's a surprise, but maybe not a shock.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
The story about Shudor Sanders with with Dion with coach
Prime coming out now in an interview and talking about
the report, the anonymous report from all that yeah, whether
one or multiple UH front office people and accusing to
door of wearing headphones into the meeting and all sorts

(13:44):
of things that you know, do you just you don't
want to do if you're a player.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Not even sure he did.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
But is there anything to be made of this from
the league standpoint?

Speaker 5 (13:57):
I think so, I really think so. It's that door
Standers did not have great guidance going into the draft process.
Memory he didn't hire an agent. And you know, you
can say what you want about agents. They've been there before.
And part of the job is to make sure players
are ready. Okay, So I think it was clear that
Sugar was not ready for this process. You know, he

(14:18):
there were times when.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
He looked at least just looked to the.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Naked eye as someone who was a little stand office
at the combine, didn't seem to be around his teammates,
didn't seem to lead, the meetings weren't great, He did
have headphones, like all those things happened, And I think
to Dion's point, and so, first of all, if he
had an agent, if he had had some guidance, I
don't think those would have been an issue. But to
Dion's point, like that has nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
With whether or not he's going to be a good
pro right.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Like he has been through it. He has is someone
who you know, basically lived his life on camera thanks
to Dion's reality shows. Is probably ready for as much
smoke as a anyone who has come out in a
very long time will probably handle himself in the lights
as well as anyone could possibly imagine. But these are

(15:07):
two separate things. So like I personally, just my opinion
things shud Door Sanders will be a good pro. But
I also think that the pre draft process certainly did
not go as well as he had hoped.

Speaker 8 (15:19):
Last couple of questions here for you. Ian always appreciate
the time. So we were talking right before you came
on about PFF last year ranked the Broncos as the
worst roster in the NFL thirty second.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
This year they have him as ninth.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
Is that, in your opinion, a reflection more so about
bon Nicks and maybe the optimism surrounding him, or was
that maybe in a bit of a mission that some
of the players on this roster who were not name players,
maybe they underestimated him a little bit.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Probably the second I know, I will say this, I
go a lot and we've talked to this, but a
lot of the optimism around the Broncos is surrounding boon
Nicks and Sean Payne together. Right. But it's a weird
thing that happens in the NFL. Right, it happens every year.
You get to February in March and players who are
big name players get cut and everybody loses their mind.
How in the world is the team going to compete

(16:08):
without X player, and then they put in some other
guy and you're like, well, this is obviously a huge downgrade.
And then some other guy plays and you're like wow,
Like he's a you know, third year edge who has
to pick six in a big moment and has a
bunch of sacks, and maybe he's someone who is really good.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I mean, we can build around in the future, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
So I think that's just natural where we don't know,
you know, the players we haven't heard of, we sort
of tend to downgrade. But I think the Broncos showed
a lot last year, I think to really really really
well coached, which will help them take advantage of the personnel, and.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know, I think they're going to.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Be just as good as last year, or maybe better.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
How was he and rap Aboard our NFL Network insider
on the KWI Sports show earlier a variety of topics.
I think, you know, he was kind of talking about
the Shore Sanders thing a little bit, the report that
was out there, and I think you hinds site. You know,
there was with the Sanders family a bit of arrogance
going into the process that because Dad had gone through it.
You know, he didn't need to hire an agent, all
that kind of stuff. I give everybody the same advice, like, yeah, okay,

(17:13):
you're going to say three percent of your total overall
deal by not hiring an agent. But the three percent
is worth it. It's worth it too. It's because they're
working for you twenty four to seven. It's it's a
NonStop public relations thing. They're glad hand and general managers.
Those agents are you know, in general manager's years all
the time. They're you know, there's there's no downside to

(17:35):
hiring an agent for your first contract.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Do you think he would have been drafted hire if
he would have had an agent, Probably because an agent.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Would have prepped him better for a lot of those situations,
prepped him better for those interviews, prepped him for those things,
which you know he didn't really do. You know, and
his dad, who was so supremely talented back in the day,
refused interviews and I'm not getting drafted that later, but
those kinds of things. So, you know, Dion didn't really
have the experience of somebody who needed to go out
and win people over in those rooms. He'd already won

(18:03):
them with the tape and so you know that that
was sort of the thing at the end of the
day for Shador that you know, in hindsight definitely probably
should have should have hired an agent and representation. Again,
it's it's a maximum of three percent for NFL agents.
Three percent. It is so worth it. And on those
rookie slotted scaled contracts, you know, who cares if you

(18:23):
want to negotiate your second contract on your own once
you once you got in the league and all that
kind of stuff, and then fire your agent at that
point and whatever. But there is it is almost stupid
for you not to hire an agent as somebody as
that is trying to get drafted.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I did like Ian's point about being two different things
now though, now he is in the NFL and he
does think that he's going to be a pretty good pro.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Do you share those sentiments. I haven't seen him play
yet at the pro level, so I don't know. I
think he's good enough that he can carve out a
twelve to you know, fifteen year career as a Teddy
Bridgewater type, which is what he compares to the question
is can he rise above that? And I think that's
you know, is he is he case Keenum and Teddy
Bridgewater that that kind of quarterback or is he something better?

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And I think that's that's the question at the end
of the day. I think the fact that he was
drafted where he was kind of says that the league
doesn't think he's much better than that. We'll see, but
you know, I I again what him being in the
league now and where he's going to go, that's on him.
But getting to it, it is two different things because

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getting to that point, getting to that that part of
the process where you're trying to win teams over to
take you and to spend an early pick on you.
Having somebody having an agent to do that is unless
you're guaranteed to be the top pick. It's it's borderline

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mouth Eastans to not hire an agent and just give
up the three percent, most of which, and I'm telling
you this, an agent probably would a Rep. Schador for
one percent because of the notoriety and the publicity that
your agency is gon a Gat from repins Door. So
they probably would have done it for like one percent,
if not free, because because of what they're getting out
of it. But three percent is the max and three
percent is nothing. It's nothing. So you know, if you again,

(20:12):
if you want you're not getting a big money contract
right off the bat, you're getting the you know, you
get the rookie slotted deal. So if you want to,
if you want to fire your agent and try to
negotiate your second contract on your own, cool I can.
I can see sort of the benefits of that. You're
saving three percent, you know, those kinds of things, And
if it's a high, high dollar quarterback contract, then that

(20:35):
money starts to add up. You know, if you're getting
you know, you're getting a two hundred and fifty million
dollar deal, all of a sudden, that starts to add up.
Now you're talking about nine million dollars. You know, you're
you're talking you're talking real money. And so there's there
is a uh, there's a benefit at that point, maybe

(21:00):
too not hiring it agent. I guess I still would
go with one. I mean, you know, I get it
because the agent world is so dirty and slimy, and
there's there's just bad actors in the space, and and
I sort of get it to people don't want to
be evolved in that. But I've been around a lot
of those guys, most of the guys that are out

(21:21):
there doing that stuff. Are just hard working guys trying
to you know, trying to help guys with you know,
get their dream. It's some of the bigger agents that
you know that you got to worry about, the Druis
of the world. You know, they're always trying to poach
clients and things like that. That that kind of that
part of it sucks, but you know, as far as
the rest of it goes, I mean again, you're you're

(21:42):
you're capped at three percent as an agent. Your outlay,
usually your outlay for training and everything else, is going
to be more than you're going to make off the
first contract. You're hoping guys get to the second contract
to pay for the guys on the first contract.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, So Shador signed a four year, four point six
million dollar contract. So that's one hundred and thirty eight
thousand dollars at three percent.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, and you talk about a guy who's made millions
in NIOL money, that's negligible money at this point, one
hundred thirty thousand dollars for what you would have gotten
as negligible and that's assuming that the full three percent
again was be charged, which if you're getting shit door
I don't think you're charging that right. You know, like
if it were me, I'd go in there and try

(22:23):
to get him at one percent and then go from there,
just because the notoriety is gonna bring to my agency
and everybody else is gonna see my branded stuff, or
because I'm gonna be stocking him with sweatshirts for all
the workout videos and everything else, so you know, you
get to see my brand everywhere. Legendary.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I'm just saying, by the way, going back to the
Rockies just for a second, one of my buddies, who's
Colorado native, been a Rockies fan of his whole life, said,
Rocks get first winning streak and series win of the season.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Boom. The MLB better be paying attention. We're getting hot. Hey,
look the way you get back in the division. Start
stacking dubs, right, they're gonna overtake the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Just Doug who runs all the games where the Rockies
came in on his way out and he said, we're
going eighty and twenty over the next hundred.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
It could be in the playoffs. Yeah, I'm not sure
that'd get us to the playoffs. Actually for the wildcardout card, Yeah, wildcard.
You're you're not passing the tops at that point of
the next one hundred. Yeah, we've been eighty percent of
our games going for we might get a wild card.
That's uh, that's truly truly inspiring stuff. But at least
your buddy gets to celebrate the the stuff and we

(23:27):
get to celebrate here in the voice of Tony Manus
as we fished the k Wait New Year all right
after the ka comes for a hotline home, bringing our
guy Cody Roar from Mile High Sports. Cody, are you
doing this evening? I'm good?

Speaker 6 (23:37):
Then?

Speaker 5 (23:37):
How are you getting?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Uh, pretty close to the wedding time for you didn't?

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Yeah, we're just about a week and a half away now,
so very excited.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You are you doing any any prep for the wedding?
You're taking dancing lessons, do any dieting kind of thing?

Speaker 6 (23:52):
No, you know, honestly, you know we uh, you know,
here and there we've been practicing. The first dance should
be good, but the real one, a real big celebration,
is going to be next month in New York. So
that's where, you know, that's where the dance was gonna
break out. I think a little bit even more so Uh,
I still have some time for that one.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
There you go, are r. Yeah I did. I did
not prep at all, which is probably why that thing
ended in disaster for me anyway. But you know, good
luck to good luck to you and yours though is
as you get to embark on that that special day, uh, Cody,
Broncos get a lot of hype. This offseason feels like
a weird place to be for Broncos fans, given the
last decade of futility and the and the sort of

(24:31):
false hype before and then last year everybody was saying
they had the worst roster in the NFL. They turned
it around. How are we How optimistic are we at
this juncture about this coming season?

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well, you know, I personally feel feel good about where
the Broncos are at. And look, obviously Sean Payton and
the team that are not believers in like, all right,
we're just gonna pick up where we left off last year.
You know, I think a lot of times there are
a lot of myths in the NFL been right, the
first one being halftime speeches matter. You don't get enough
time to really make a difference in a halftime speech

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in the NFL. Contrary to what people think, you know,
thank you to uh you know, obviously al Pacino's speech
that he had and obviously one of the greatest football movies.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Of all time anyway.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
And also I think the other thing is that you know,
you carry over the momentum you had from last year.
I mean, every year we see teams who have been
really good, We've had really good records suddenly fall off.
We've seen teams who've been bad suddenly rise to the occasion.
The Broncos were one of those teams last year that
you know, has been bad, probably not bad enough to
be in the top five, you know, I think everyone
had them. You know, a lot of the offseason chatter.

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You know a lot of people say I have the
worst roster in the NFL. They're they're gonna be, you know,
the number one overall pick next year. And you know,
they made for the playoffs, which that's impressive, but you know,
it's can you can you get back to it here
this year? I think it sets the standard a little
bit higher here. And I think that the Broncos had
the foundational pieces there have been that I think they
believe in. Sean Payton believes they can get back there,

(25:53):
but there's so much work that has to get put
in and everything's contingent upon getting off to a fast start,
and obviously I think, hell, it's probably one of the
more important things, and that's the greatest mystery of this team,
but it's also the most exciting thing. So I think
Denver's in a great spot right now from an optics standpoint. Now,
they've got to go out there this season. They got
to prove it.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Talk with Cody Roark from Mile High Sports, I kind
of think so too. But there's the flip side of
the coin. We look at the Houston Texans last year,
a team that had their rookie quarterback and c J. Stroud.
Things were looking great year one. Year two, they come
back and run it back and in some cases quite
literally and it was not the same thing, got their
offensive coordinator fired, and they're they're trying to retoil it.

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That's that's a soft division. What if anything, are we
worried about in terms of that type of regression with
the Broncos at BONICKX.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Yeah, I mean I think first and foremost is, you know,
are the pieces around him healthy? You know? I feel
like the CJ. Stroud this year even at times where
they were healthy, they didn't necessarily play their best. But
you know Stroud lost, you know, obviously his number one guy,
Nico Collins for a good stretch of the season with
a hamstring, you know, get him back, the new loose
tank out of that serious injury. You know, the offensive

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line dealt with some injuries. I feel like that would
be something to watch for that we've I think we've
already seen the Broncos navigate something like that, even in
Bo's rookie year. You know, Mike mclinchy goes on short
term i R after having an ankle injury Week two
against Pittsburgh. You know, after the knowing could start. Then
we all started thinking like Bo hadn't had the greatest
start to his career in the NFL. Once you're getting
all these injuries, this is just all right, another rough

(27:26):
season ahead. But they found a way to buckle down
and obviously played through it. You know, I think for
Bo just not have to press as much, and I.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Think the moves they made this offseason.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
I think will take pressure off of him essentially. You know,
last year he was the offense for the Broncos. But
you know, if you have a run game. If that
run game gets going with r J. Harvey, Jowell, McLoughlin,
rodgerck Estimate or any of the other guys like Tyler Badet,
Blake Watson and maybe throw their name in the mix
a little bit this offseason. That takes pressure off your
quarterback there, and having I think healthy playmakers at wide receiver,

(27:56):
it certainly helps. Having production at tight end. I mean,
Ben last year Adam trup And led the team at
tight end and receiving urds was one hundred and eighty eight.
Lucas Co led with nineteen total catches.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
The math is and mathing there.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
The production simply wasn't there. So if those two position
groups around Bow obviously play well and are a big
impact on the offense, I think it's gonna take a
lot of pressure off and I think that will help
him avoid a sophomore slump.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Hey, Cody Grant here, we heard Bo talk during ota
is about how everything in the offense is easier for him,
and it seems like he's taking on that role as
a franchise quarterback on the field, But what about everything
he's done off the field during the offseason, you know,
taking out the wide receivers, the rookies they're playing in
the trip to go get some work in together off

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Broncos facility. You also see him at the Nuggets and
Avs games during the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
What do you make of him becoming the man of
the town in.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Denver and really embracing that role as a franchise quarterback
off the field.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Yeah, I think both's given a lot of people hope
and certainly he carries himself to the right way and
it doesn't feel forced the way.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
That he does it.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
You know, I think he's got some fun and I
think he's got fun personality and it comes out from
time to time, but he's really serious.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
He's business most of the time. You mentioned this stuff.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
With the teammates, I think, you know, going at playoff games,
just having that presence is very important in terms of
elevating you know, people's confidence I think in him. But
on top of that, there's there's no facade with it.
You know, it's not bringing cameras with him to do it.
And then obviously this get together with the wide receivers,
to my understanding, that's going to take place right after
mandatory mini camp ends. I think they're going to take
a week or two often then they're gonna get together

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because obviously training camp's been start a little bit earlier
this year cotter to last year. So you know, you'd
love to see that, would Bow. And I would even
say too, the things he's done in the offseason really
kind of take care of his body. You mentioned it.
You know, from the time you're you know, go from
high school, you go to the college game, you're throwing
all year, so you really don't have to say and like, hey,
I need to rest my body. He said, this is
the first time he's actually been able to rest his body.
He can work on some mechanics stuff without necessarily having

(29:53):
to throw the football, so you're not adding and wear
and tear, you know, into the regimen.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
And he knows the things he's got to work on.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
From a mechanic stamp, and obviously for him to get
better this upcoming season, there are a lot of things
he identified. Plus it helped have some downtime after he
had the off season ankle procedure as well.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
So I just think he's attacked.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
It the right way.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
And look, I was there on Thursday, and he looked
like he was completely in command of a lot of things.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
You know.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
It wasn't much coaching going on from you know, Davis
web It was bow leading the way and he was
talking the wide receivers. He was you know, discussing, hey,
like you know certain coverages, Hey, this is how we
want to run this while So he's very much like
hands on in control of the offense.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Right now, which is a nice thing to see.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
I think that's a huge confidence builder. But yeah, I
just got to keep maintaining that momentum of the regular season.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Tell with Cody Roark from Mile High Sports, are you
as excited about the defense this year as I am Vancis.
I gotta have a lot to play with Dad, Jaddy Baron.
You bring in the free agents and EFAGA and green
Law And although green Laws is tweaked himself, he'll be
fine by training camp. I am a little concerned about
the inside backer position, but otherwise this defense really excites me.

(31:00):
Excit you know me.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
I'm a defensive guy, man, you know, I'm a secondary guy.
I love the love the cornerback position, loved the secondary
so the addition of Whofonga really really excites me. You know,
this is a guy who's the heat seeking missile and
I unfortunately missed out on playing against Tofonga by I
think three or four years. Obviously, you know where I played,
We played Creston Valley his high school. We played them
in the playoffs one year. He wasn't there yet, thank goodness,

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because that would have been a completely different outcome if.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
He was there.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
But I just love the tenacity.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
The heat brings. Brandon Jones, obviously, I think was a
massive surprise last year. You know, he stayed healthy for
a large portion of the season despite missing all of
training camp, and you still got guys like PJ Locke
and you know, not a lot of people are talking
about PG. I know he had an offseason surgery that's
got him a little limited right now he's on the
side field, but that that's just a deep room the
defensive line. You're bringing all those guys back, and you're

(31:50):
adding to it with Saviian Jones, who I'm excited to
see him fit into the mix. I think he's gonna
play well behind Zach Allen and John Franklin Myers. You
bring back DJ Jones is kind of the glue. I
think I'm intier that D line. And also you got
Malcolm moch who's just a you know, well loved guy
in that locker room. I'm with you. I think inside
linebacker is the only position right now that we have
questions at. But it could be answered and that put

(32:12):
those questions could be solved essentially if those guys can
stay healthy. I think the biggest question is who's going
to start next to Drake Greenlaw. That's the biggest question
for me.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Ty with Cody Rourke from my high sports. Yeah, I
think that's that's one of the things. You know, whether
you've got green Law who's coming back off injury and
then tweaked himself. You've got Singleton who's coming back off injury.
You've got Drew Sanders who has not really uh taken
on that role the way that they thought they've. They've
kind of carved out that downhill pressure guy roll for him,
but he hasn't really uh, you know, fully stepped into

(32:42):
an inside back a role. If if those guys, if
there are injuries that mount up there. I mean last
year we thought, if you know, Singleton got hurt, that
it was gonna be bad, but Barton stepped in out
of nowhere and played lights out. If those guys get
hurt though that does present a bit of a problem
looking at the depth on this team.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Yeah, and really you're at that point you're banking on
some of your younger guys accelerating. You know, Lavelle Bailey,
who made the team as an undrafted guy last year.
They like him obviously, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Had an impact on special teams in.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Just ten games last season for them. But you know,
you got some other undrafted guys Karne Reid out of Utah,
you got JB. Brown out of Kansas, and then you know,
obviously got Jordan Turner, who I thought when I was
watching rookie Minni Camp, I liked what I saw from
Jordan Turner from Michigan State Athletic. Rangey has that sideline
to sideline people. But you are another injury away from
really just being in dire strait where it's like, okay,

(33:31):
what veterans are out there? And certainly you know there
are a couple of guys out there right now that
could still be you know, on the market, Juwan Bentley
being one of those names there, kwant Alexander I you
have familiary to It is still out there right now,
but the options are very slim at this point if
you wanted to bring in another veteran, so you may
have to wait till after roster cuts in that third
preseason game, But then that puts you behind the eight

(33:51):
ball a little bit with bringing in a guy who
can learn your scheme and nuances there. So that's where
I think the challenge is at Singleton Telty. I think
he'll win the job. Justin Sternod looks a little more
athletic and leaner so far from what I've seen a
ot is. Granted, the shoulder pads aren't on, so you know,
maybe it's a false look, but you know he's coming
into obviously the off season very healthy and not in

(34:11):
a good spot. Uh And then Drew Sanders, can he
piece it together? I mean, like you said that, not
a lot of experience at inside linebacker and you know,
specifically at the NFL speed where we saw him in
the preseason his rookie year and even in the regular
season kind of struggle with the speed and the adjustment there.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
So they're obviously kind to carry over that vision and
try to get comfortable with his role. So yeah, there
are a lot of questions, but is it safeguarded though?
Is that why they brought in a you know, a
Telenov longer. Could we see some more you know big nickel,
like would j L.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Skinner?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Could we see you know some of those safeties play
that dime linebacker role.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Uh, some of the matchups they had to maybe offset
some of.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
The concerns that they have inside linebacker.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Well, yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. And
you know you mentioned PJ. Lock earlier. He gets healthy,
I still think he's got a role that I think
that that sort of is that role. You know, you
remember when Vance was the head coach here. Uh, they
used to kind of move Will Parks around to that
dimebacker roll a little bit, and uh, that could be
something that we see out of some of these second
ear of guys. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
No, And I think that's that's the key too. Right now,
we got a lot of safety depth as well. You know,
you got Glarry and Turner Yelle also returning from his
injury that had him sideline all of last year. You know,
Devin Key's a young, impressive guy who I thought really
took a you know, big role on special teams last year.
You know, you got Jail Skinner, who I know, the
team they want him to take another step forward here
this year.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
He played really well.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
For them on special teams last season. And then you
got some other guys, you know, Kedri Smian Tanner, mccowis,
or some young developmental guys you bring in veteran Sam
Franklin junior this offseason.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
I mean, they got.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Numbers there, but really it's gonna be okay. You got
your top heavy guys and Jones and Hufanga, those guys
can stay healthy. P J. Locke and then J. L.
Skinner imagines that four favorite high. But you know who's
the fifth or do you carry additional corners because you
have such a load of corner room.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I mean, we haven't talked about that.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
It was Jade Baron, Jay Kwon, McMillan, Riley, Mark patz
er ten.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Those was the top four vendor's Chris abrus Drain, who
you know had a very impressive stample size in the
elimited mouse snaps he played. And then you got the
Tomorrow matthis Quinton Newsom as those other guys there, they're
really trying to fight for a roster spot. So it's
this is a good problem to have right now. Been
like the Broncos position at the end. They don't have
a lot of proven guys, you know, across the board,
but they got a lot of good depth and I
think guys that can develop into maybe established starters down

(36:15):
the road.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm glad you brought up Chris Abrams Drain because I
think he is going to be an X factor for
this team, even though we did get Jahda Barron in
the first round of the draft. But I want to
switch to the offensive side of the ball. Everyone seems
enamored with r J. Harvey, the Broncos second round pick
at running back.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
What do you think of him? What did you see
from him.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
At OTA's last week, and if he is the guy,
what does that mean for the likes of uh Odric Estimate?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
What does his role look like on the team? If
r J. Harvey is a three down back.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah, that's a great question, you know so far. I
mean r J Harvey. I think the nickname I've seen
from people commenting just watching how he cuts and just
how fast he is. Some people are calling him the glitch,
you know, because it looks like, you know, screens glitching
when you're watching him, you know, a break or cut.
But really got to see the pads come on with Harvey. Look,
I loved his body work at UCF. I'm excited to

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see him put on the pads here when training camp
comes along. Right now, he looks the part, especially with
you know, helmets and you know, no shoulder pads and
you know jerseys and shorts. You know, everyone looks flashy,
a little bit quicker. But how does he handle that
work lad when the pads come on? And now you
get some thumping there from you know, arguably one of
the better defensive lines in the NFL that I think
is gonna be a good test for him. Uh, you know,

(37:27):
for Audrick estimate, it's just trying to get to be
that guy the Broncos drafted him to be, you know,
the big physical runner that can wear down defenses.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I mean theoretically, I.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
Look at Odrick is the guy that you want him
to be, that three down back to wear down defenses.
And then you bring in R. J. Harvey, who's got
the Darren Spoles like traits, the Camara like trades, and
then do you gash them with speed? But also Artie's
got underrated physicality to his game as well, and that's
that's the big mystery and then you know what about
Jelium McLaughlin, who obviously Sean Payton. There's a lot of
trust that Sean has in him. I think you're going

(37:57):
to see him on the roster. But then what about
your young guys that you had there, Tyler Biday who
flashed a little bit last year before the scary back
injury got elevated for the playoff game. And then there's
Blake Watson who's also flashed a little bit, you know,
especially as a potential pass catcher out of the back field.
I mean, Sean Payton has got to figure out what
that running back room is going to look like. My
biggest thing grant for that room is can the Broncos

(38:18):
established those roles clearly without it changing up on a
week to week basis The way that we.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
Saw last year with Javonte, with Odric, with Jilil, there.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Was just no continuity or consistency.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
I think that held them back a little bit.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
I think if you can establish you know, RJ, let's
say RJ is a three on back early on the season.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Okay, well, then.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Maybe shortyarded situations you got Audric estimate coming in goal line,
maybe it's Adric estimate or if the roles are reversed,
then you know you flip that with those two guys
right there.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Cody Rourke, my High Sports. We appreciate you always, Cody
FORO we get you out of here obviously we got
to hold you to this. What is your prediction for
the season for the Denver Broncos If you're wrong, obviously
you get to submit to the wheel of punishment here.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Yeah, you know what, I'm going to give them eleven
wins here this upcoming season. I had them at ten
surprising the last year. Luckily, you know, we clip that
on social media and I said if they had better
quarterback playing at least two more games this year.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
That they would win ten games.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
They won ten games, So I was a fun little
character left there. I'll get them at eleven this year, Ben,
I think eleven is where they're at.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I will if you fail to hit eleven, obviously, we'll
submit you to the wheel of punishment here, which includes
all all kinds of fun stuff. Cody Roark, Well, Hi Sports,
we appreciate its always in a good luck man with
the wedding.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Thanks Hall friend, I appreciate you guys absolutely.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Take care. Cody Roark from mile high Sports. Always appreciate
when he's got the time. Young man's getting married joining
falling from our noble bachelor of ranks joining your you're
married ranks there, Grant.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Hey, when you find a good woman, you got a
locker down. That seems like Cody's got.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
A good one. Yeah, I as I say, I ain't
mad at it. I'm happy for you guys. When we
come back, let's do an NFL six pack. This is
Abrocos Country to Night right here on Kawa Rockies Win
Streak Edition. That's right, we're going streaking, Grant, first time
this year. It's all right, Well, didn't we went back
to back games like early this year? Oh maybe we

(40:07):
did first series win, first series win. I think we Yeah,
I think we went back to the games. So anyway,
we're going streaking. It's happening. Uh special thanks to shout
out to Cody Rourk who joined us in the last segment.
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Speaker 2 (40:46):
Six the top six NFL headlines.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
What the Panthers today released footage of an almost trade.
On Draft Day, the Rams reportedly inquired about moving up
for Teed McMillan. Panthers GM dan morgan asked LA for
a haul and was happy to stick at eight. The
Rams turned down the offer and Carolina took McMillan.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
GM.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Dan Morgan said, I really don't want to lose this player.
If we are going to lose the player and it's
something that could potentially set us up for the future,
if we could get a load of picks out of them,
then let's explore it. But I didn't really want to.
I was kind of hoping that they would say no.
First off, what did you think of them releasing the
footage from the draft war room? And second, how close

(41:30):
was this deal to really getting done.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I mean, if the Rams had agreed, it would have
been done. The footage was interesting to me because my
good friend Eric Eager, who now works for the Carolina
Panthers in analytics, is in that video and in fact
is mentioned in the video when they were talking about
Eric was saying because Eric does analytics and trade analytics,
draft value stuff, all that kind of stuff for him.
So it's kind of cool to see where my friends

(41:54):
who have known for you know, twenty years, you know,
get some run in a team release video that a
general manager was relying on him for trade value information
when it comes into this thing. I wasn't the biggest
Tech McMillan fan, but you know, I think obviously Carolina
felt like they had to get that weapon for Bryce Young.

(42:14):
The Rams, looking at that spot, you know, maybe thought
that maybe that was the direction they want to go.
I don't know, I can't believe that the Rams would
have traded up there for Tech McMillan. That sort of
seems weird given the that they just signed Devanta Adams
and yeah, and they got they got Poked Nakula. So
it feels weird to me because it doesn't feel like that.
That really loads up the you know, it doesn't really

(42:35):
make the best use of it. I wonder if they
thought that they needed to get in front of the
pick right after that, you know, and and and try
to get But anyway, I loved it. I always love
those inside peaks and that kind of stuff. I love
the fans get to see that. And I was happy,
you know, I'm happy my friend Dave Canalis is getting
you know, getting players. I'm happy my friend Eric is

(42:56):
Eric Agers out there getting getting some run on a
on a video. It was just cool for me.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, I thought it was funny that Lesnie was ready
to once again say FM picks two. It seems like
Stefan Diggs not the only Digs that is in some
hot water with his team. Trayvon Diggs is in danger
of missing the twenty twenty five season with his left
knee injury.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
He's also in.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Danger of losing five hundred thousand dollars from his base
salary for not rehabbing at the team facility. Todd Archer
of ESPN reported that Diggs has not been at the
team facility, instead opting to rehab in Miami. Diggs contract
stipulates that he must take part in eighty four point
three seven five percent of the off season program in

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order to avoid a five hundred thousand dollars de escalator.
The Cowboys mandatory mini camp is next week, and Diggs
would be subject to fines for missing the three day sessions.
Executive vice president Stephen Jones, though, said he expects Diggs
to be at the Star next week.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
What can you tell us about this story?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
And do you think it's kind of silly that teams
are requiring him to be there even though he's injured.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Well, typically guys that have those kind of escalators or
de escalators usually have physical conditioning issues, whether that's a
weight issue or whatever else, and so teams put that
in there to make sure they can kind of keep
an eye on a guy at off season if they
need to do a little extra to try to motivate
him or whatever. Diggs is not going to shoot himself
in the foot over half a million dollars. He's just not. You'll,

(44:28):
He'll show up and get over there and collect uh
and collect the money and all that kind of stuff.
That to me, that's that's one of those things that
I mean, we talk about it right now it's like, oh,
you know, but reality is it's players know and and
they're not going to sit there and short change their
pockets for stuff, like especially guy like Digs, who's uh.
I'm not saying he doesn't have that much big money

(44:48):
contracts left in him, but he doesn't. So you know,
you're not gonna shoot yourself in the foot for you know,
on on final paydays in the league. Three J C.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Horn calling out PF list of top ten cornerbacks. I
have something to call out on this list as well.
He came in at twenty fifth of top corners in
the NFL top ten Sauce Gardner at number one, PS
two at number two, Trent McDuffie three, Jalen Johnson four,

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Derek Stingley five, followed by DJ Reid, Marlin Humphrey, Christian Benford,
JayR Alexander and Denzel Ward.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
He said, this is.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
What happens when you let nerds who never touched a
field feel like they know ball man.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
He sins deleted the tweet.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
You think he was on to something here, And how
do they have Sauce Gardner ahead of PS two coming
off Defensive Player of the Year last year?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
You know, I mean, that's one of those things that's
going to go down for a while. It's the two
best corners in the league. I think PS two is
the better corner. But you know you're going to get
what you get as far as that kind of stuff goes,
Especially because he's in that New York market, you probably
have you know, voters that are a little closer to that.
As for the rest of this, I mean J. C.
Horn has had a wildly inconsistent career. He only played

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three games his rookie season. He played six games in
twenty twenty three, only played fifteen games last year. Somehow
making a Pro Bowl this way, you know, only having
one interception. You know, I don't. I don't think he's
of old people. It needs to be the arbiter or
the guy that's sitting there raising the charge on I
got I'm getting slept on by nerds when you know

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you had a rather pedestrian season and have had a
less than pedestrian career, derailed a lot by injury. If
through J C. Horn, I think i'd you know this
is I hate it when they say it that this
might be the time to shut up and dribble.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
You know what, I mean, what do you make of
well PS two said earlier I think it was last
night he had his charity event. Yeah, he said that
Jahne a Bear and him being drafted by the Broncos
could lead to more targets coming his way possibly. Do
you think that is a possibility this year? And what
could we see an increase and PS two's production? You know,

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he's not targeted much because he is shutting down those
top wide receivers. Do you think we could see more
numbers from him to kind of solidify even more that
he is the dominant, most dominant cornerback in the league?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Hikes, So, I mean, you know Baron will get the
targets early. Teams will test him early, right, because that's
what you get. You get when you're in the NFL.
You're going to test the unknown and see if you know,
see if it holds up and if Jade Barron steps
up and you know has the interceptions early, well that's
gonna shift the dynamic and they'll they'll try to spread
it back around instead of just going after we saw
it last year. I mean people going after j Quon

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mcmillion h third down, that's that's where that's where passes
were going, and so you know, I think that's I
think that's the thing. You know, if you're barn, you
want to come out hot, you need to get a
couple of interceptions earlier. Remind people not to throw in
your general directions. Heybe the moss. But that's what they're
gonna do. They're gonna test those guys early. Uh and
if it, if it done work, then yeah, you could

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see you could see some more targets. PS Two's way.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Or Colorado Football season tickets sell out for the third
consecutive year. CU Boulder is still feeling the Prime effect
as season tickets are sold out once again. This marks
the third consecutive year that Colorado Football has sold out
of its season ticket allotment, dating back to the twenty
twenty three season. As coach Prime transformed the one and

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eleven Buffs team from twenty twenty two, making them one
of the most popular and hottest teams in the nation,
and they have not slowed that role. After a nine
to three regular season and Bowl appearance in twenty twenty four,
fans will once again pack Bolsom Field for what seems
to be a pretty tough schedule in the Big twelve.
What do you make of the coach prime effect and

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Boulder still continuing after he loses Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter,
And what do you think their record's going to be
this year?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Well, that's that's interesting. I mean, it's another tough schedule.
You know, I think that this season is really about
Deon Sanders' ability to coach. Right, if you don't have
Travis Hunter, Shador Sanders there anymore, you haven't just gotten
carried through by the guys. Now you're gonna have to
Now you have to do some coaching and you know,
it's going to be interesting to see. Uh, it's gonna
be interesting to see what what CEU is. I think

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they need to you know, Colorado I think needs to
get to a playoff win in the next couple of years.
You know, I get that there's a bit more patience
with that program because you're resurrecting it from the dead,
But there's still is a question about whether Deon Sanders
is even a good coach. We we get all the
we get all the hype, right, we're selling out that
we're selling out? Was it three straight years? We're selling
out the stadium three straight years? All the hype is there.

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The question now is where the results and when are
those gonna be here. I expect the team to take
a little bit of a step back losing some good players,
but the question now is going to be how quickly
can they reload and what are the heights for this program?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
As as de Young continues to build it his way, man,
I'd love to see him continue some success. I mean,
I think even like a seven win season this year
would be huge.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
If you're over five hundred, I think you're you're doing
good and that you need to stay over five hundred
and then start to be challenging for you know, for
the for the and then start to work your way
to the playoffs. I think you've got two years, you know,
this year and two years to make the playoffs. You don't,
I think I think it's over at that point.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Five Peyton Manning Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Or Peyton Manning, Peyton, Peyton Manning, Peyton Peyton.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
He has officially joined the ownership group for the new
Denver NWSL franchise, A team announced the expansion team is
set to begin play in twenty twenty six, bringing Major
League women's professional soccer to Colorado. He said, it's a
real honor to be part of something so meaningful to
the Colorado community. I'm proud to support the growth of

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women's sports and excited to help build a club that
our city and state can rally behind. Denver NSNWSL controlling
owner Rob Cohen praised Manning's addition to the group, citing
his impact on Colorado's sports, saying, Peyton's legacy as a
champion and a leader is.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Second to none.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
His impact on car alreatu of sports is unmatched, and
we're incredibly proud to have him as a partner. He
brings passion, insight, and deep local routes, all of which
will help us shape the future of Denver nw SL.
What do you make of Peyton joining the franchise as
an owner and do you think that this will be a.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Big draw in Colorado? It sounds like there's a lot
of buzz around this. This this might be, you know,
something that does have some draw to it. The ownership
group includes Colorado Olympic skier Mikail Shiffern. It's got Melody Hobson,
Malty Coor's I mean there's there's some The ownership group
got a lot of people. Rob Cohen is the controlling owner.

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But the interesting thing to me is that the Manning
rivalry reignites because Eli Manning, he is part owner of
Gotham FC, the New York based women's football club that's
in this in this league, and so I wonder if
there will be a little bit of sibling rivalry with
regard to the dueling brothers ownership. Oh, you know, there

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will be.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I think I think it's awesome that he's getting involved.
I think it's so cool that he's still such you know,
he's spent a lot of years in Indianapolis, and of
course we know he loved his time in Tennessee, but
you see him still all around town. He was at
the Avs playoff games, he was at the Nuggets playoff games,
and even at a Rockies game. They showed him the
other night, the game I was at against the Yankees.

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I just think it's so cool that he's really found.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
His home here in Colorado. Yeah, I you know, Bayton's
really really made Denver and Colorado is home. And you know,
for a guy he played with four years of ball here,
you know, it's he's embraced that and Broncos Countries really
embraced him as one of one of their own six.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Season two of Netflix's starting five series will now be
headlined by a finals matchup with two co stars and
SGA and Tyrese Haliburton.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Season two will release this October.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Before the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season begins.
Other members in this year's documentary series Kevin Durant, Jaylen Brown,
and James Harden, along with SGA and Tyrese Haliburton. How
cool is this for the documentary to get a finals matchup?
Like that's gonna make it go through the roof? And
did you watch season one at all?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
I didn't even know what existed, So now I'm gonna
have to go back. You know what I'm watching and
they go back and watch that tonight. I really thought
you were talking about to talk about season two of
Peacemaker coming on.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
East, which I will also be watching watching.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
When that comes out I think next month or whatever,
But no, I I Yeah, it's gotta be cool at
an interesting angle there since you got both those guys
in the finals, and that'll that'll help with some of
That'll be interesting to see how both those guys prepare
for finals matchups and and what their you know, their
attitudes are and all that kind of stuff. It's it's
sort of interesting with with Halliburton having, you know, SGA

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having the season that he did, but Halliburton sort of
had all the media attention of late for for multiple reasons.
He got voted by his peers as the most over
rated player in the league, which is bizarre to me.
And then you had, uh, there's the situation with his father.
You know, It's just it's been it's been interesting to
see sort of think SGA not really half all all

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that kind of scrutiny or any of that kind of
stuff followed him.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
I think that's exactly how SGA and the Thunder won it.
But I think I mean, you got to go watch
the first season. It was so good and I can't
wait because last year they didn't really have anyone that
made a deep playoff run. So I think this will
add an extra element of excitement to season two. What
is your favorite sports documentary of all time? Oh, man,

(54:37):
I'll give you mine first. Yeah, a second to think.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I think that. I think the Nolan Ryan one is
probably just because he was my favorite baseball player. Like
my absolute favorite baseball player. Come on, he was a yeah,
he was a legend. He was he was just a
just an encrestion. It was. It was something that my
father and I had a very strange relationship, but it
was one thing that he and I connected over because
he like to Nolan Ryan coming up, you know, I

(55:02):
mean when the sixty nine when the Maazing met the
sixty nine Mets. You know, we're we're going on. My
dad was sixteen years old right at that point, right
and when I was a young kid, Nolan Ryan was
in the end of his career, but I was still
I was a huge Nolan Ryde. So it was the
one thing we sort of bonded over was we both
had a shared admiration for this one baseball player that
spanned both our generations. That's so cool to hear.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
And that's funny that you bring up how it kind
of bonded your dad and you together through that, because
I have my favorite documentary is the F one Drive
to Survive Series. And I wasn't a Formula one or
really a racing fan before that, but I grew up
and my dad was always watching the races, NASCAR, Indie
Car and f one, so we kind of bonded over
that and that series. If you have not seen it,

(55:43):
talk about all access footage. It is so cool.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
I'll have to Yeah, I have to look at that
because I've never been one for for auto racing. It's
never might either. But you know, NASCAR is so big
down South where I come from. But to me, it
was like go fast turn left, go fast turn left. Yeah,
so you know, not really my thing. But anyway, Rocco
Country tonight, wells up on this Rockies wind streak. Yes,

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I don't know what to say.

Speaker 7 (56:08):
Really, three minutes to the biggest battle of our professional
lives all comes down to today.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
We're good