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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Country Tonight been all Bright, Nick Fergus in the Hall
of Famer, Steve Attwater, Brant Smith back there.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Producing we might have to change the name of the
station to k.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
O Albright at this point, since I've been on the
air for Rosskominsky mannon CONNLA and now this show.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
WHOA. If we're gonna do that, we might as well
call it shirtless.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Sleeveless Country Tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The only reason I said shirtless because I know mentally Ben.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Look, no, I don't. I don't think anyone wants to
see that. Mister dreg think that would be a great
scene for me to take the shirt.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yes, yes, Ben's been all over the KOA airwaves today.
Good for him, and I didn't notice that. Ben is like,
you know, like you say, Grant, he has no sleeves on.
Now Ben said something that almost choked on my own
(00:56):
saliva when I heard him say it. What I said, well, Ben,
you know, you know you did you know two shows today,
now you're doing tonight's show. And I'm like, well, you
live very close, so you know, why didn't you you know,
change your clothes or whatever. Now Ben said, and get
dig this. Now you may want to pull over on
the side of the road when I give you this now.
Ben said that he went to the gym first. I jogged,
(01:17):
Then I went to the gym.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He jogged first.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Things that are not associated with one Benjamin all Bright.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, I mean, you know what, Gret, we need to.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Test to a mount swab with a bend to make
sure he's actually Benjamin all Bright.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I think we got like some imposter. Yeah, somebody
else has taken over his body.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, listen, I've been on BCT in a while and
that's what happens. Man. I'm not happy about that. But
at the same time, I am not sure the person
to my right is exactly the person to my right
that I've seen in weeks past, because he's not saying
that he's slimmer.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
He's slimmy up to one hundred ninety pounds, he's down
the one hundred and sixty.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He's like a year younger. Yes, I'm going back. I'm
going back to some time. Give him a week.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
He'll have those twelve tacos and a large diet coach
beside them.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You guys, you guys, I'm just saying it.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Is a week.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's all he's giving me. This a week. I got
no respect. I'll respect. I tell you, Hey, listen, man,
I'm just saying I happened. You know long it's been
so I ad a soda? How long has it been been?
Three weeks?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Beyonder this, I forget about the sodas that being like
had in his car for like like a year.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Drank all of them. And holdo, they weren't that I had.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, I had like a twelve pack in the back
of my car and then I just drank them all.
This was last year, just like last year. Yeah, they
were they'd been in my car for like six months.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I drank them all.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Be over.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm just saying, yeah, it was actually more like a
year of trying to help out there for a while.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I'm just hoping that the stomach it's been in all right,
that is sitting right in front of us today, remains Well.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Let's see, let's put it to the test. I've been
eating my diet.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I a super restrict I've got to an eight hundred
calory a day diet, and so I've been doing that
for a couple of weeks, and uh, this Sunday, I
get to move it up to a thousand calories.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But I've been you know, I've been eating cats.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Eggs basically eggs, protein, eggs, and bacon.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Are you on a carnivor a diet.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Not really, I've just thought a super calorie restricted diet.
But I mean eggs are mostly what what works for me.
They're dry cheerios. Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I got rid of the gut, Like I know, there's
no there's no gun anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I can do that too if I stand up, if
I stuck it in, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Not trying to muscle.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That. It was like a you know, there was no
stuff in that in wash washboard.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean, I'm trying to trying to get healthy, trying
to get slimmer, trying to get you know, trying to
get back in shape.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So before kudos to you, I'm a forty four year
old man. That's uh, that's out there, Dayton.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
She's trying to get back out.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Funny because today.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Earlier today, when I was on the Many College Show,
we went over one of the studies that I read.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It came across my Twitter feed.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's something like sixty eight percent of women prefer the
dad bod, which I still I'm still sorry, what the dad?
You know you know what I'm talking about, like the
pair of shade. No, I can show you this, I'll
show you the all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I did not believe it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And my dating history would suggest that the people who
responded the survey are absolutely full of crap. But believe
it or not, women think that a guy that's like
ripped in a lot of cases is high maintenance or
more likely to stray, and so they say what it is, Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
The preference right, because I'm like, dude, nobody out.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
There is lammoring for a sex scene with Paul Giamati.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, The idea is that you want a man with
low self esteem so now you can run, you can
run him, and he's.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So happy to be with you, saying they love the
dad buy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
But I'm not seeing a sudden influx in poster orders
for James. I'm not seeing that. I have not seen
that fashion trend just yet. We've got a lot of
stuff to get to JK. Dobbins in Denver visit with
the coaching staff. We'll get to that here in a
little bit. I want to start off with this story
I was talking to you guys about as we came
to air earlier today. Per Christina Williams, who is here
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at iHeart with ir Women's Sports. There is currently an
investigation being launched into the Seattle Storm coaching staff by
the w n b A and league security.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, the source.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
With knowledge goes on to tell Christina Williams the league
is reviewing a complaint from a former Seattle Storm player
who alleges that an assistant coach and I'm quoting here
directed profanity at them.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm sorry, what that's a joke?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, no, that's like that's a prank. It has real thing?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Does it state in the document what was actually said?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
No, But all we have is that's what we have
right now.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Now listen, if we're talking about derogatory words expressed towards
someone who's a female, then I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If we're just talking about your traditional.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Phrasing of vanity at a former player, that is the
direct quote.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, if that's the case, man, I would have never
done it. But I said, I fout. You know somebody
belong years ago, a lawyer. Dan.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Let me go get Dan Capl's lover.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You mean he has some points of words for you,
I mean, not just for me.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
He was just like I mean, he did have some
point of words for myself, but I've heard.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Him use between the two of you, you've never heard
Mike Shanahan me.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Mike wasn't really a guy that would curse at you.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, Okay, Alex Gibbs, that's different.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, exactly what type of world are we living in?
Where now?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I mean we could bring charges as an investigation for
using our language.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Dude, Like if you if my coach hadn't costed me,
or my drill sergeant hadn't cont I would have thought
that they didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I would have thought that they didn't see value in me. Yes,
does it?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, if they didn't rip me up, I would have
thought that they never saw value in me to begin with?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Is that how so offt we've gotten?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well? Apparently so because for me, like, have you seen
an opening scene in a full metal jacket.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Right with the drill sergeant? Yeah? Okay, so he's seen it. Okay,
Steve has that we have to show it to him
on the break jay. That was long ago. That was
mild in comparison.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yes to to what my high school coach, yes, what
typically say?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yes asked the question? This raise a good point? Is
that necessary it's never necessary to see.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But that doesn't necessarily mean it would stop them.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But a still character too, though, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I gotta push back on that, all right, the whole
idea that it builds characters. See, that's something my mom
and my dad would say when they're tear it into
you with their words.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's building characters.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, that sounds great for you, But me on this side,
younger Nick Ferguson, that's not building a lot of character
for me.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I think it did. I didn't get the long term.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You realized that you were able to handle that kind
you know, you were able to handle someone's you know,
whatever anger or whatever way they expressed anger, and it
taught you how to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Boy, it taught me to go in my room, close
my door. But the bottom I said, all kind of
found words back to them.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Look right, Yeah, it's like see for kids where they're
like trying to cut but they're like mistake to go
to hear them.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I said, yes, but see to your point, is it? No,
it's not. It's not necessary.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Like hey man, when my kids were playing ball, I
didn't like people cussing at the kids. I didn't like that. Okay,
and some of the coaches they heard from me like
hey man, look.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, well this is the Seattle store, this is a ground.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
But even then, it's like we still got to communicate
with the.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Level of respect. I mean, like if my boss here,
I can't imagine Dave Temper doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But if my previous ball, if if anybody had ever
like raised their voice and done something like a here
in this kind the office context is a little different,
Like I would have looked at you been like, I
don't know who.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Raised you, but I'm the wrong one.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You get that, you get one that's gonna be the
least time you do that.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'mo making so you can't say anything to me because
I'm a grown ass man over here.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Let's keep on by the same token when I was
in the army or football, like I expected that, I
expected that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't know, I can't expected that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, So you you mentioned two masculine things. You mentioned
football and you mentioned the military. Are we looking at
this from a standpoint of saying, okay, well, because we're
dealing with women in this casee that you should take
a little of the edge off.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Is that kind of the idea of concept. I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think that's sexistatement because at that point, you're saying
a woman can't handle it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
There's plenty of women in the military. Next, Yeah, there's plenty.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
What did you was a masculine thing I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I'm Ben based on a binges. We're talking about that. Yeah,
you just pulled the Ryan that was on me. Ok,
that's exactly what you did. You said because I'm just
saying because Ben mentioned football in the military, and that's
(10:42):
the way that you know, usually the conversation goes when
you're talking to men. So sometimes, I know, just think
about it. We all know this happens. You get a
young boy and a young girl. Young boy falls on
the ground and he hurts himself. What's the first thing?
Everyone tells him?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Get up?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Young girl falls down. So there you go. So it
happens in the society.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I was just checking with.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Ben to see if that's what he was actually projecting.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Just for conversational purposes, that's it. That's all I was doing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Look, I would never I would never suggest that a
woman couldn't handle you know, I mean, that's usually a
women's environment, though, I mean, you got women coaches the
women's league.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I mean, yeah, paar, I guess. I don't know, and
I don't know the extent of it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But when I read this at first, I'm like, wait
a minute, you're opening an investigation because somebody cussed you.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Is it a lady who cursed at her? I don't know.
I don't know who it was that did it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Okay, operated under that assumption, but now that you mention it,
I am assuming.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Wait, so so let's just say it comes to pass
that it was a male coach who said this.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Might be different. I might look at that. Is that
sexious to me? I don't know, But to me, it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Is like, you can't look at it any different from
male coach to female coach, because to me, you got
to look at everything the same.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's a coach talking to the player.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now you may say, well, a coach may need to
soften up their edges him or her.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, we know how this thing works in coaches.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You get competitive, you know that competitive drive comes out.
Then you may yell and you may say something. Someone
continues continues to make the same mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Listen, we know it happens.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Does a coach actually have to bark at you in
a way male or female for you to understand, no,
but we know it happens.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, And some coaches build a relationship with the person
where they can talk to them that way because they've
shown that they truly care about them. In other ways,
some coaches just come out cursing from day one. And
you don't have that, you don't have that same relationship,
and you can't do that because the player will normally
(12:45):
not take.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
To that as well.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
My opinion, I'll tell you this man being around Bill
Parcells and being around Mike west Off, I mean, these
are certain things that we heard, and I was accustomed
to it because my college coach Georgia, he swore right,
irish got he swore. When I think about my high
school coach, I mean he swore like but.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
People like, hey you so and so and so and so. Yes,
my DV coach grabbed my face mask.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh boy, he's shaking it and spitting and yelling, and
I'm I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Not to go there.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So the only thing I can do is laugh because
away with it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yes wait wait, which only made it worse.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But like I said, yeah, you can only do that once, right,
You can only do that once, so I can understand
sometimes you taking it there. But for me, talking about Parcels,
talking about Mike west Off, to me, I knew what
they were trying to do.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It was kind of part of their personality.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I didn't take it personal because once again, that was
the environment that I grew up in.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, I'm the same way, Like that's just say, like
with the Army, I was laughing at drill starts there
because I'm like, this is a game.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You're yelling at me because you want to make me better,
but I'm not, and it's just funny to me, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And then you know me, I'm gonna say something smart
back and it's gonna be worse, but you know, like
it's it's I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I guess there are environs.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I think I feel like the athletic arena, the military arena,
like things like that.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I feel like that's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You should know that, you should know that's a part
of it, whether that's right, wrong.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Necessary, because some people come up with coaches who have
a good, nice relationship and they don't really communicate like that,
and then when you come across now you get on
the team with a coach that talks.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
To you like that, Now you got a problem. Yeah,
And I know the players like they're not gonna talk
to me like this. See what you're talking about, Steve,
is that.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Some some coaches are great coaches where you don't have
to swear, because Wade Phillips was great and he never
really swore people, and I love this dude to to
this day.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But then you have assistance that did oh yes, the
college structure, I'm going to but they but they were
not over top, like over the top was you get
like Bill Parcels was like extra crispy, and when you
think about Maurice Carton, he was just crispy as far
as the rich recipe.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yes, when I loved Buffalo and I went to New York,
I was like, man, what did I.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Just get into?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Because the words were I mean, like there's where words
were like ans and busts and in sentences because it
was like, wow, a really foul, intense, but accountable type
of environment.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So that's kind of what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And sometimes there are coaches who coddle their players too much.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
This is where we get into.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
The realm of participation in trophies, which I don't like
because it gives the kids the wrong type of message
and it hurts them down the road sports. I mean,
you could take sports out, but I'm just saying life
and generally hurts them.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I feel like that experience of having that happen to
you is good in a couple of ways and prepares
you for the fact that life is a fairer. Prepares
you for the fact that some people are angry and
don't know how to deal with it, and it allows
you the opportun need to sit there, like, how do I.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Deal with tool kids deal with people? Yeah? And yeah,
because you.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Say you need like in this again, in this office environment,
if somebody screamed to somebody like that, you get knocked.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
On your you know what. But I mean it's different.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Yeah, and you know at some point and everyone's like,
you're gonna get somebody who comes at you sideways, and
you got to know how to deal with that in
a in a in a way that that that you're
comfortable with right to escalate the situation that you're not
like super emotional and you just lose your goal and
you know, chock somebody out.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You know, you gotta be all right, I'm ready for
this all. I've been through this before.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, you know like it's.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, that's when you're into one of those conversations like
what happened? He had it coming. I hated to do it.
You just you just pushed me to.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
A point where I was I didn't want to be
put So I'm at the highest.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Of my pistivity. I'm at the highest of my festivity.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But didn't Dad give us all the toolkit not to
deal with those situations in the real world with violence
where we normally would have acceded to violence in those
situations like we we lived through the wildest people screaming
and yellow. So at that point we're all like, you
know what, I've been to this game before. Brother, You're good,
all right, you.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Become numb to it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I don't know if it was so much that versus
you're running into somebody full of speed and then you know,
and you can't do that in real life.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Football that component.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
We can do this with the wouldn't life be much
better if you do it?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
God?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Man, I'm away from it at the work. I'm off.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yes, yes, he read the last baby.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oil off the shelf. Now I gotta go get it.
Don't tell Dinny I.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Talk about the baby.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Don't tell Dinny. You go ahead, gotta go in there.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Brocos Country, Wenna set up abou JK Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
We get Robby Bean coming up in about an hour.
You gotta stick around with be back after this.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Five six, six, A lot of great texts coming in here.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Somebody on the sleeve and say, Ben's going full Belichick
exactly what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Let me.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
No pictures. How can you come here.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Udo like this? And they go, no pictures.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We don't on camera.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You about to be on candy camera now so much?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Right now, Let's see in Seattle, do they know if
the coach was male or female? That could make a difference.
I don't know if they have both on their staff.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Someone nine.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
If you've gotta cust it someone in yell, you need
to have an established a level of respect there first.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Before you swear at someone, a level of respect must
be established. Apparently this didn't end up in the parental
guideline because my parents and the friends of my parents, Yeah,
they skipped that chapter. Well, well no, not my friends
and my parents, but my friends. We we all somehow
(19:18):
tell the same stories. We grew up in different places,
but we say we tell the same stories almost like
our parents took the same parenting courses.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's what it seems like. Oh yeah, they all learn
the techniques, right.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Must have been listening to sugar Free before the show
with that pistivity reference. That's something that's been around for
a while. I've heard that before. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, yes, I mean it was kind of a common
thread in my household. My mom was saying, I'm the
highest pissed off as highest hostivity. She could always say that. Really, yes,
after that, it was going down.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well I heard another time you said it before. Yeah,
it used to be to remember who used to say
it where I first heard it? But yeah, he would.
He would always talk about being in a constant state
of pestivity.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yes, so you know it's like a you ever see
a tea kettle, You know what he wants to start
to boil over and starts to whistle.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That is festivity right up. That's hot. Hot, Like I said,
fisheries hot. As long as we're not talking about baby
oil anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Rockies Get out the Broom.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Rockies won three in a row swept the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay, okay, great for the Marlins.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Great first Not great for the Marlins. They got fenty
excuse me the Rocket, yes.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Man to relegate the Marlins.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
The Rockies did kind of, they did their thing against
the Marlins. But once again, it's the Marlins. So let's
not over blow it too much.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Hold on, let's put this in perspective.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Okay, because the Marlins are a bad baseball yes they are.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But if you double the Rockies.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Win total, it would be what the.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Marlins have won this year. Wow. But but you see
what you just said.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
If you were to double the wind total, technically you can't.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
We can't do that. We can't. I'm just just say,
but were in a row, I mean to sweep.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's you know, Rockies first series sweep since May of
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Damn, that's a long time, bro, It's been alone long time.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I just says, got Steve, you did the voice?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, because my voice is not good.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean that was that was great.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I mean it's better than mine. Anybody can do it
when there's no pressure. That's true. That's fair, that's true. Yeah,
that way on the voice. China the bush. I think
so was the mass singer episode. Is that that's what
he needs to do? Sing n Yes, my voice throws cracking.
(22:05):
I won't even take the mask off. I'm like, I
want that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Since you have on the mask, I mean it reduces, eliminates, suppressions.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know what he knows you gotta take that mask
off eventually. That at by that time, but that's how
you hit it. By that time you hit all the notes. Yes,
say yeah, I know, but the no is gonna be
different when a lot of people listening.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Broncos OTAs we got go out there tomorrow. What do
you guys think about the positive?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
JK. Dobbinson is in town tonight. I like it pretty good.
Running back, we talked about that on this show a
couple of times.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He can, he can run, he can he can catch,
you can's pass pro and we all saw what he
did with the Chargers last year. Finally coming back off
all those injuries. He had two a c ls. He
also had the Javante injury. You know, he came back
off all that stuff. Put together season he did last year.
I know the Broncos won a veteran voice in that room.
Whether that's Dobbins, whether that's Stick Chub somebody like that. Uh,
but Dobbins is somebody I would be perfe okay with.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Listen, you'll not talked about this before free agency. And
they were like three names they came up. It was
Kareem Hunt, it was Nick Chubb and JK. Dobbins, And
it's like, okay, well, which one of those guys would
be a perfect fit for what the Broncos. I mean,
I still like Kareem Hunt. I mean you can still
talk about his age. I just know physically when he comes,
(23:22):
he's coming downhill, you just it's like a free chain.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
You better get the hell out of the way. No, no,
you better, you better BRACEDU get out of the way. Nick,
come on, safety, You're not get out of the way.
I was talking about someone else, not me.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You don't want to get out of the way either, because.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It is, but it is those types of things. Get
out the way. But when you think.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
About Dobbins what he could bring, obviously when you mentioned
the veteran presence, that's there. But for me, it is,
you know, working in tight spaces right when you could
run whams traps, you can run outside zone and you
go back and watch the tape with the Chargers, and
then you go back and watch and compare that tape
to what it was like for him when he was
(24:03):
playing for the Ohio State Buckeyes. A lot of outside
plays and we didn't really see that a lot in
this Broncos offense. It wasn't executed properly and it wasn't
called a lot. So now you're talking about bringing in
the player that brings in another element to your offense
that you didn't have. And oh, by the way, with
Evan Ingram here, it's going to open more things up
(24:24):
for you where you have a more favorable box. So
I like the idea and I hope they're able to
get something done.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, I think so too. He's a great addition.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yeah, he's had some injuries. Yeah, November of last year,
MCL's frame twenty twenty three, Achilles twenty twenty one. Which
that's so for long agover. He's fully healed from nose
so real, it's only twenty one.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Injury was the Javonte Andrew the ACLCCL MCL, you know,
and it took him a while to come back.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
But last year, let's say, with Steves said he did
have injuries, right, which which is accustomed to being part
of the game. But last year with the Chargers, I
mean almost a thousand yards on the ground, almost a
thousand and.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
With a mcl spring, those aren't those aren't as majors.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
They used to be, right, But he's but the idea
was still he came back from it. You and I
talked about the game right after and just when they played.
When the Broncos played the Chargers, I don't know if
it was uh Cody Barton or Jonas Ellis, but one
of those guys got matched up with him on a
rail route and he just took him with speed on
the outside caught the ball right. That's the type of
(25:37):
second level explosion you want from your running back and
you're going to need, especially if the Broncos hope to
get back to the place.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
J Harvey MANJ Harvey got bad.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I get it, Steve, but here's but here's something that
you were definitely you and I both understand when you
were with the Broncos, just like when I was with
the Broncos, they always had a stable of running backs.
It wasn't just this, you know, one guy who was
just kind of your bill called Kyle Beck. It was
like one, two, maybe even three guys. So if you
matched Harvey with a guy like JK. Dobbins, right, and
(26:11):
you had all dri estimate in the bullpen waiting. To me,
that's a murderous row of running backs, which you know
you're going to need later on in the season.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He got twenty five carries for ninety six yards against
the Broncos last year to Touchdow. He didn't play in
that second game because he was he was obviously hurt,
but he missed a quartery.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
He played well against US, Yeah, he played. He played well.
It's altered away.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He only three point eighty carry, but he got what
he needed when he needed to get it. A lot
of that average came down in the second half when
they were just running the dive and you know, and
kind of getting out of there. I've always liked him
as a player. I think he's explosive. I think he's strong.
You don't something like twenty something twenty three twenty four
reps on the bench, you know at the combine four
four guy. You know he's got speed, he's got strength,
(26:55):
and I think the biggest thing for me is he
sees it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, he's got vision.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, you know you said you had some holes that
cut back lanes last year you could drive a Jobbo
jet through. The guys were missing and Jk's not the
guy that misses those kind of cutback lanes.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
See. I think when the Broncos drafted R. J.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Harvey and they were looking at their boards as far
as other veteran free agents, I feel as though Dobbins
was definitely on the on the board and this was
one of those moves they were just trying to see
how things are going to work out. But for me,
I feel as though they've been thinking about this for
a long.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Time that that would be man if we had JK. Dobbins,
that running my room is going to instantly be much deeper.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
He's a guy that, like I said, talk about the
vision like a guy who sees, you know, sees through
traffic and uh and accelerates.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Broncos Country Tons.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Been all right in Fergus and the Hall of Famous
Steve at Wanta Grass Smith back there producing five sixty
six nine zero is the text line.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You guys want to get involved in the conversation. We
got again ota you guess, and be out there tomorrow.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be out there, so you get
what appearance I promise in sleeves. Okay, okay, so your
whole no sleeves.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
What's the today workout thing that nobody was supposed to
see me because I was gonna go home and change.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was just trying to get tan on my arm.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Well pistols, I don't know if we call guns.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh my goodness, what do you what do you want
to see? Don't what do you guys want to see
out there? The more for me.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You know, OTAs is an opportunity for the young guys
to go out there and compete because they had their
rookie kind of mini camp, and obviously when the veterans
come back, a lot of your reps are now reduced.
Now I was like, well, what's one of those guys
are able to make that jump where they can actually
fit in?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And I know sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Even though it's ball is ball, but but jumping from
JV DI varsity football in high school is one one jump,
and that takes a certain type of mindset. But when
you jump from being that dude in college, so now
you're jumping to the pro game where this is your job.
(29:09):
Guys have mortgages that they have to pay, some guys
have child support that they had to pay.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Some guys have a lot of child support exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So you think about what that level of competition is
going to look like and can you elevate your level
of play to that new standard. But more importantly, what
I look for is consistency. It's okay for a guy
to go out even at this you know, shorten t
shirt Olympics and make it play, But can you come
back the remaining of the practice, make another play, and
(29:39):
then the next.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Day can and continue that that moment I'm going for.
Who's a specific guy you're looking for? I mean, for me,
it's been no secret. Devon Vele is kind of my guy,
and we saw him getting work, you know obviously last week.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I expect that to continue. But who are people some
some specific guys. I agree with what you're.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Saying that, uh yeah, the competition, you know, you's got
to be at a high level. But I would say,
more than anything right now, I want to see who
has picked up the offense, defense, whatever you're doing out there,
whatever role you're playing, who's not making the mistakes the
same mistakes that you may have made in the mini camp.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You know, you got to improve.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
You got to know what you're doing before you can
go really full speed of time.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Try to go full speed when you don't know.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
But we'll sure and we should be able to tell
some of those things from watching the guys who are
flying around. Guys they're in the right place. We should
be able to tell some of those things from watching practice.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
For me, you know, the guy that I want to
see is Troy Franklin.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Troy Franklin had several opportunities last season in the game
to make some big catches like he made with bo
at Oregon, but he just kind of lost his concentration
late and I want to see him come back because.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Lessure his name was being talked about a lot. He was,
you know, the dropping of the passes.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know, the former offensive I guess you want to
call a passing game.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Coach with the Alliance with the Lions, he was constantly
on Troy Franklin.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But I got a chance to talk to him as
to why he was on Troy, Because when you see
a player has the ability and they're not living up
to it, you got to stay on that player.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You want to make sure. Well, I can't, No, I
mean I'm not. He said John Morton was practice.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You heard it.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
You couldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He was like it was like Bill Kolark, right.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But the idea is that he stayed on him because
he knew that he had some ability and maybe now
with the coach gone, maybe maybe Troy could come out
of his shell.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now now we see more of who he is. And
then also here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
He's been in the office for the second year, right,
so so things should come to him a lot faster.
So that's the guy who I have my eye on
because if he can take his game to a whole
different level and hit that next geme, it's going to
work out for him. But it's also going to work
out with from with his former Oregon teammate than bo Nicks.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Yeah, well, I'm looking at the cornerback position, Chris Abrams,
Draine day, Kawa, McMillan.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
He's got some competition there with John A. Barron uh
a slot cornerback position. We all know that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
See, most people are sleeping on Jakuan Oh, he's a balla.
See for me, this move is only going to make
him better because he was one of those type of
players that I say he's a dog type player.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Drafting Jaday Baron.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And everyone's talking about, well, Jada Barron is coming from
his spot. We're going to see him take Jaquan McMillan
take his game to the next level.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Competition brings excellence, right absolutely, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
And you could never have too many great corners. You
can never have too many great receivers, can never have
too many great running backs.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, we don't have enough great minutes to keep great
people like Steve that. Well, we got to hit a break, guys,
we come back.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
We're gonna get into Madden and Sakwan Barkley is a
Roncus Country Night in Kawa
Country Tonight been all Bright, Nick Fergus in the Hall
of Famer, Steve Attwater, Brant Smith back there.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Producing we might have to change the name of the
station to k.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
O Albright at this point, since I've been on the
air for Rosskominsky mannon CONNLA and now this show.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
WHOA. If we're gonna do that, we might as well
call it shirtless.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Sleeveless Country Tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The only reason I said shirtless because I know mentally Ben.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Look, no, I don't. I don't think anyone wants to
see that. Mister dreg think that would be a great
scene for me to take the shirt.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yes, yes, Ben's been all over the KOA airwaves today.
Good for him, and I didn't notice that. Ben is like,
you know, like you say, Grant, he has no sleeves on.
Now Ben said something that almost choked on my own
(00:56):
saliva when I heard him say it. What I said, well, Ben,
you know, you know you did you know two shows today,
now you're doing tonight's show. And I'm like, well, you
live very close, so you know, why didn't you you know,
change your clothes or whatever. Now Ben said, and get
dig this. Now you may want to pull over on
the side of the road when I give you this now.
Ben said that he went to the gym first. I jogged,
(01:17):
Then I went to the gym.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He jogged first.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Things that are not associated with one Benjamin all Bright.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, I mean, you know what, Gret, we need to.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Test to a mount swab with a bend to make
sure he's actually Benjamin all Bright.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I think we got like some imposter. Yeah, somebody
else has taken over his body.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, listen, I've been on BCT in a while and
that's what happens. Man. I'm not happy about that. But
at the same time, I am not sure the person
to my right is exactly the person to my right
that I've seen in weeks past, because he's not saying
that he's slimmer.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
He's slimmy up to one hundred ninety pounds, he's down
the one hundred and sixty.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He's like a year younger. Yes, I'm going back. I'm
going back to some time. Give him a week.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
He'll have those twelve tacos and a large diet coach
beside them.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You guys, you guys, I'm just saying it.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Is a week.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's all he's giving me. This a week. I got
no respect. I'll respect. I tell you, Hey, listen, man,
I'm just saying I happened. You know long it's been
so I ad a soda? How long has it been been?
Three weeks?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Beyonder this, I forget about the sodas that being like
had in his car for like like a year.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Drank all of them. And holdo, they weren't that I had.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, I had like a twelve pack in the back
of my car and then I just drank them all.
This was last year, just like last year. Yeah, they
were they'd been in my car for like six months.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I drank them all.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Be over.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm just saying, yeah, it was actually more like a
year of trying to help out there for a while.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I'm just hoping that the stomach it's been in all right,
that is sitting right in front of us today, remains Well.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Let's see, let's put it to the test. I've been
eating my diet.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I a super restrict I've got to an eight hundred
calory a day diet, and so I've been doing that
for a couple of weeks, and uh, this Sunday, I
get to move it up to a thousand calories.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But I've been you know, I've been eating cats.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Eggs basically eggs, protein, eggs, and bacon.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Are you on a carnivor a diet.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Not really, I've just thought a super calorie restricted diet.
But I mean eggs are mostly what what works for me.
They're dry cheerios. Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I got rid of the gut, Like I know, there's
no there's no gun anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I can do that too if I stand up, if
I stuck it in, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Not trying to muscle.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That. It was like a you know, there was no
stuff in that in wash washboard.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean, I'm trying to trying to get healthy, trying
to get slimmer, trying to get you know, trying to
get back in shape.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So before kudos to you, I'm a forty four year
old man. That's uh, that's out there, Dayton.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
She's trying to get back out.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Funny because today.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Earlier today, when I was on the Many College Show,
we went over one of the studies that I read.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It came across my Twitter feed.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's something like sixty eight percent of women prefer the
dad bod, which I still I'm still sorry, what the dad?
You know you know what I'm talking about, like the
pair of shade. No, I can show you this, I'll
show you the all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I did not believe it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And my dating history would suggest that the people who
responded the survey are absolutely full of crap. But believe
it or not, women think that a guy that's like
ripped in a lot of cases is high maintenance or
more likely to stray, and so they say what it is, Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
The preference right, because I'm like, dude, nobody out.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
There is lammoring for a sex scene with Paul Giamati.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, The idea is that you want a man with
low self esteem so now you can run, you can
run him, and he's.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So happy to be with you, saying they love the
dad buy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
But I'm not seeing a sudden influx in poster orders
for James. I'm not seeing that. I have not seen
that fashion trend just yet. We've got a lot of
stuff to get to JK. Dobbins in Denver visit with
the coaching staff. We'll get to that here in a
little bit. I want to start off with this story
I was talking to you guys about as we came
to air earlier today. Per Christina Williams, who is here
(05:22):
at iHeart with ir Women's Sports. There is currently an
investigation being launched into the Seattle Storm coaching staff by
the w n b A and league security.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, the source.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
With knowledge goes on to tell Christina Williams the league
is reviewing a complaint from a former Seattle Storm player
who alleges that an assistant coach and I'm quoting here
directed profanity at them.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm sorry, what that's a joke?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, no, that's like that's a prank. It has real thing?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Does it state in the document what was actually said?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
No, But all we have is that's what we have
right now.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Now listen, if we're talking about derogatory words expressed towards
someone who's a female, then I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If we're just talking about your traditional.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Phrasing of vanity at a former player, that is the
direct quote.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, if that's the case, man, I would have never
done it. But I said, I fout. You know somebody
belong years ago, a lawyer. Dan.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Let me go get Dan Capl's lover.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You mean he has some points of words for you,
I mean, not just for me.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
He was just like I mean, he did have some
point of words for myself, but I've heard.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Him use between the two of you, you've never heard
Mike Shanahan me.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Mike wasn't really a guy that would curse at you.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, Okay, Alex Gibbs, that's different.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, exactly what type of world are we living in?
Where now?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I mean we could bring charges as an investigation for
using our language.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Dude, Like if you if my coach hadn't costed me,
or my drill sergeant hadn't cont I would have thought
that they didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I would have thought that they didn't see value in me. Yes,
does it?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, if they didn't rip me up, I would have
thought that they never saw value in me to begin with?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Is that how so offt we've gotten?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well? Apparently so because for me, like, have you seen
an opening scene in a full metal jacket.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Right with the drill sergeant? Yeah? Okay, so he's seen it. Okay,
Steve has that we have to show it to him
on the break jay. That was long ago. That was
mild in comparison.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yes to to what my high school coach, yes, what
typically say?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yes asked the question? This raise a good point? Is
that necessary it's never necessary to see.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But that doesn't necessarily mean it would stop them.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But a still character too, though, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I gotta push back on that, all right, the whole
idea that it builds characters. See, that's something my mom
and my dad would say when they're tear it into
you with their words.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's building characters.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, that sounds great for you, But me on this side,
younger Nick Ferguson, that's not building a lot of character
for me.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I think it did. I didn't get the long term.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You realized that you were able to handle that kind
you know, you were able to handle someone's you know,
whatever anger or whatever way they expressed anger, and it
taught you how to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Boy, it taught me to go in my room, close
my door. But the bottom I said, all kind of
found words back to them.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Look right, Yeah, it's like see for kids where they're
like trying to cut but they're like mistake to go
to hear them.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I said, yes, but see to your point, is it? No,
it's not. It's not necessary.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Like hey man, when my kids were playing ball, I
didn't like people cussing at the kids. I didn't like that. Okay,
and some of the coaches they heard from me like
hey man, look.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, well this is the Seattle store, this is a ground.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
But even then, it's like we still got to communicate
with the.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Level of respect. I mean, like if my boss here,
I can't imagine Dave Temper doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But if my previous ball, if if anybody had ever
like raised their voice and done something like a here
in this kind the office context is a little different,
Like I would have looked at you been like, I
don't know who.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Raised you, but I'm the wrong one.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You get that, you get one that's gonna be the
least time you do that.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'mo making so you can't say anything to me because
I'm a grown ass man over here.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Let's keep on by the same token when I was
in the army or football, like I expected that, I
expected that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't know, I can't expected that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, So you you mentioned two masculine things. You mentioned
football and you mentioned the military. Are we looking at
this from a standpoint of saying, okay, well, because we're
dealing with women in this casee that you should take
a little of the edge off.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Is that kind of the idea of concept. I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think that's sexistatement because at that point, you're saying
a woman can't handle it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
There's plenty of women in the military. Next, Yeah, there's plenty.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
What did you was a masculine thing I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I'm Ben based on a binges. We're talking about that. Yeah,
you just pulled the Ryan that was on me. Ok,
that's exactly what you did. You said because I'm just
saying because Ben mentioned football in the military, and that's
(10:42):
the way that you know, usually the conversation goes when
you're talking to men. So sometimes, I know, just think
about it. We all know this happens. You get a
young boy and a young girl. Young boy falls on
the ground and he hurts himself. What's the first thing?
Everyone tells him?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Get up?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Young girl falls down. So there you go. So it
happens in the society.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I was just checking with.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Ben to see if that's what he was actually projecting.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Just for conversational purposes, that's it. That's all I was doing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Look, I would never I would never suggest that a
woman couldn't handle you know, I mean, that's usually a
women's environment, though, I mean, you got women coaches the
women's league.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I mean, yeah, paar, I guess. I don't know, and
I don't know the extent of it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But when I read this at first, I'm like, wait
a minute, you're opening an investigation because somebody cussed you.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Is it a lady who cursed at her? I don't know.
I don't know who it was that did it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Okay, operated under that assumption, but now that you mention it,
I am assuming.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Wait, so so let's just say it comes to pass
that it was a male coach who said this.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Might be different. I might look at that. Is that
sexious to me? I don't know, But to me, it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Is like, you can't look at it any different from
male coach to female coach, because to me, you got
to look at everything the same.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's a coach talking to the player.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now you may say, well, a coach may need to
soften up their edges him or her.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, we know how this thing works in coaches.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You get competitive, you know that competitive drive comes out.
Then you may yell and you may say something. Someone
continues continues to make the same mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Listen, we know it happens.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Does a coach actually have to bark at you in
a way male or female for you to understand, no,
but we know it happens.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, And some coaches build a relationship with the person
where they can talk to them that way because they've
shown that they truly care about them. In other ways,
some coaches just come out cursing from day one. And
you don't have that, you don't have that same relationship,
and you can't do that because the player will normally
(12:45):
not take.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
To that as well.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
My opinion, I'll tell you this man being around Bill
Parcells and being around Mike west Off, I mean, these
are certain things that we heard, and I was accustomed
to it because my college coach Georgia, he swore right,
irish got he swore. When I think about my high
school coach, I mean he swore like but.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
People like, hey you so and so and so and so. Yes,
my DV coach grabbed my face mask.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh boy, he's shaking it and spitting and yelling, and
I'm I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Not to go there.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So the only thing I can do is laugh because
away with it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yes wait wait, which only made it worse.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But like I said, yeah, you can only do that once, right,
You can only do that once, so I can understand
sometimes you taking it there. But for me, talking about Parcels,
talking about Mike west Off, to me, I knew what
they were trying to do.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It was kind of part of their personality.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I didn't take it personal because once again, that was
the environment that I grew up in.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, I'm the same way, Like that's just say, like
with the Army, I was laughing at drill starts there
because I'm like, this is a game.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You're yelling at me because you want to make me better,
but I'm not, and it's just funny to me, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And then you know me, I'm gonna say something smart
back and it's gonna be worse, but you know, like
it's it's I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I guess there are environs.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I think I feel like the athletic arena, the military arena,
like things like that.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I feel like that's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You should know that, you should know that's a part
of it, whether that's right, wrong.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Necessary, because some people come up with coaches who have
a good, nice relationship and they don't really communicate like that,
and then when you come across now you get on
the team with a coach that talks.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
To you like that, Now you got a problem. Yeah,
And I know the players like they're not gonna talk
to me like this. See what you're talking about, Steve,
is that.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Some some coaches are great coaches where you don't have
to swear, because Wade Phillips was great and he never
really swore people, and I love this dude to to
this day.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But then you have assistance that did oh yes, the
college structure, I'm going to but they but they were
not over top, like over the top was you get
like Bill Parcels was like extra crispy, and when you
think about Maurice Carton, he was just crispy as far
as the rich recipe.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yes, when I loved Buffalo and I went to New York,
I was like, man, what did I.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Just get into?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Because the words were I mean, like there's where words
were like ans and busts and in sentences because it
was like, wow, a really foul, intense, but accountable type
of environment.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So that's kind of what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And sometimes there are coaches who coddle their players too much.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
This is where we get into.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
The realm of participation in trophies, which I don't like
because it gives the kids the wrong type of message
and it hurts them down the road sports. I mean,
you could take sports out, but I'm just saying life
and generally hurts them.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I feel like that experience of having that happen to
you is good in a couple of ways and prepares
you for the fact that life is a fairer. Prepares
you for the fact that some people are angry and
don't know how to deal with it, and it allows
you the opportun need to sit there, like, how do I.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Deal with tool kids deal with people? Yeah? And yeah,
because you.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Say you need like in this again, in this office environment,
if somebody screamed to somebody like that, you get knocked.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
On your you know what. But I mean it's different.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Yeah, and you know at some point and everyone's like,
you're gonna get somebody who comes at you sideways, and
you got to know how to deal with that in
a in a in a way that that that you're
comfortable with right to escalate the situation that you're not
like super emotional and you just lose your goal and
you know, chock somebody out.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You know, you gotta be all right, I'm ready for
this all. I've been through this before.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, you know like it's.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, that's when you're into one of those conversations like
what happened? He had it coming. I hated to do it.
You just you just pushed me to.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
A point where I was I didn't want to be
put So I'm at the highest.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Of my pistivity. I'm at the highest of my festivity.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But didn't Dad give us all the toolkit not to
deal with those situations in the real world with violence
where we normally would have acceded to violence in those
situations like we we lived through the wildest people screaming
and yellow. So at that point we're all like, you
know what, I've been to this game before. Brother, You're good,
all right, you.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Become numb to it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I don't know if it was so much that versus
you're running into somebody full of speed and then you know,
and you can't do that in real life.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Football that component.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
We can do this with the wouldn't life be much
better if you do it?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
God?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Man, I'm away from it at the work. I'm off.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yes, yes, he read the last baby.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oil off the shelf. Now I gotta go get it.
Don't tell Dinny I.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Talk about the baby.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Don't tell Dinny. You go ahead, gotta go in there.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Brocos Country, Wenna set up abou JK Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
We get Robby Bean coming up in about an hour.
You gotta stick around with be back after this.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Five six, six, A lot of great texts coming in here.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Somebody on the sleeve and say, Ben's going full Belichick
exactly what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Let me.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
No pictures. How can you come here.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Udo like this? And they go, no pictures.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We don't on camera.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You about to be on candy camera now so much?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Right now, Let's see in Seattle, do they know if
the coach was male or female? That could make a difference.
I don't know if they have both on their staff.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Someone nine.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
If you've gotta cust it someone in yell, you need
to have an established a level of respect there first.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Before you swear at someone, a level of respect must
be established. Apparently this didn't end up in the parental
guideline because my parents and the friends of my parents, Yeah,
they skipped that chapter. Well, well no, not my friends
and my parents, but my friends. We we all somehow
(19:18):
tell the same stories. We grew up in different places,
but we say we tell the same stories almost like
our parents took the same parenting courses.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's what it seems like. Oh yeah, they all learn
the techniques, right.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Must have been listening to sugar Free before the show
with that pistivity reference. That's something that's been around for
a while. I've heard that before. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, yes, I mean it was kind of a common
thread in my household. My mom was saying, I'm the
highest pissed off as highest hostivity. She could always say that. Really, yes,
after that, it was going down.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well I heard another time you said it before. Yeah,
it used to be to remember who used to say
it where I first heard it? But yeah, he would.
He would always talk about being in a constant state
of pestivity.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yes, so you know it's like a you ever see
a tea kettle, You know what he wants to start
to boil over and starts to whistle.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That is festivity right up. That's hot. Hot, Like I said,
fisheries hot. As long as we're not talking about baby
oil anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Rockies Get out the Broom.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Rockies won three in a row swept the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay, okay, great for the Marlins.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Great first Not great for the Marlins. They got fenty
excuse me the Rocket, yes.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Man to relegate the Marlins.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
The Rockies did kind of, they did their thing against
the Marlins. But once again, it's the Marlins. So let's
not over blow it too much.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Hold on, let's put this in perspective.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Okay, because the Marlins are a bad baseball yes they are.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But if you double the Rockies.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Win total, it would be what the.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Marlins have won this year. Wow. But but you see
what you just said.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
If you were to double the wind total, technically you can't.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
We can't do that. We can't. I'm just just say,
but were in a row, I mean to sweep.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's you know, Rockies first series sweep since May of
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Damn, that's a long time, bro, It's been alone long time.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I just says, got Steve, you did the voice?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, because my voice is not good.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean that was that was great.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I mean it's better than mine. Anybody can do it
when there's no pressure. That's true. That's fair, that's true. Yeah,
that way on the voice. China the bush. I think
so was the mass singer episode. Is that that's what
he needs to do? Sing n Yes, my voice throws cracking.
(22:05):
I won't even take the mask off. I'm like, I
want that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Since you have on the mask, I mean it reduces, eliminates, suppressions.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know what he knows you gotta take that mask
off eventually. That at by that time, but that's how
you hit it. By that time you hit all the notes. Yes,
say yeah, I know, but the no is gonna be
different when a lot of people listening.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Broncos OTAs we got go out there tomorrow. What do
you guys think about the positive?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
JK. Dobbinson is in town tonight. I like it pretty good.
Running back, we talked about that on this show a
couple of times.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He can, he can run, he can he can catch,
you can's pass pro and we all saw what he
did with the Chargers last year. Finally coming back off
all those injuries. He had two a c ls. He
also had the Javante injury. You know, he came back
off all that stuff. Put together season he did last year.
I know the Broncos won a veteran voice in that room.
Whether that's Dobbins, whether that's Stick Chub somebody like that. Uh,
but Dobbins is somebody I would be perfe okay with.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Listen, you'll not talked about this before free agency. And
they were like three names they came up. It was
Kareem Hunt, it was Nick Chubb and JK. Dobbins, And
it's like, okay, well, which one of those guys would
be a perfect fit for what the Broncos. I mean,
I still like Kareem Hunt. I mean you can still
talk about his age. I just know physically when he comes,
(23:22):
he's coming downhill, you just it's like a free chain.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
You better get the hell out of the way. No, no,
you better, you better BRACEDU get out of the way. Nick,
come on, safety, You're not get out of the way.
I was talking about someone else, not me.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You don't want to get out of the way either, because.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It is, but it is those types of things. Get
out the way. But when you think.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
About Dobbins what he could bring, obviously when you mentioned
the veteran presence, that's there. But for me, it is,
you know, working in tight spaces right when you could
run whams traps, you can run outside zone and you
go back and watch the tape with the Chargers, and
then you go back and watch and compare that tape
to what it was like for him when he was
(24:03):
playing for the Ohio State Buckeyes. A lot of outside
plays and we didn't really see that a lot in
this Broncos offense. It wasn't executed properly and it wasn't
called a lot. So now you're talking about bringing in
the player that brings in another element to your offense
that you didn't have. And oh, by the way, with
Evan Ingram here, it's going to open more things up
(24:24):
for you where you have a more favorable box. So
I like the idea and I hope they're able to
get something done.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, I think so too. He's a great addition.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yeah, he's had some injuries. Yeah, November of last year,
MCL's frame twenty twenty three, Achilles twenty twenty one. Which
that's so for long agover. He's fully healed from nose
so real, it's only twenty one.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Injury was the Javonte Andrew the ACLCCL MCL, you know,
and it took him a while to come back.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
But last year, let's say, with Steves said he did
have injuries, right, which which is accustomed to being part
of the game. But last year with the Chargers, I
mean almost a thousand yards on the ground, almost a
thousand and.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
With a mcl spring, those aren't those aren't as majors.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
They used to be, right, But he's but the idea
was still he came back from it. You and I
talked about the game right after and just when they played.
When the Broncos played the Chargers, I don't know if
it was uh Cody Barton or Jonas Ellis, but one
of those guys got matched up with him on a
rail route and he just took him with speed on
the outside caught the ball right. That's the type of
(25:37):
second level explosion you want from your running back and
you're going to need, especially if the Broncos hope to
get back to the place.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
J Harvey MANJ Harvey got bad.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I get it, Steve, but here's but here's something that
you were definitely you and I both understand when you
were with the Broncos, just like when I was with
the Broncos, they always had a stable of running backs.
It wasn't just this, you know, one guy who was
just kind of your bill called Kyle Beck. It was
like one, two, maybe even three guys. So if you
matched Harvey with a guy like JK. Dobbins, right, and
(26:11):
you had all dri estimate in the bullpen waiting. To me,
that's a murderous row of running backs, which you know
you're going to need later on in the season.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He got twenty five carries for ninety six yards against
the Broncos last year to Touchdow. He didn't play in
that second game because he was he was obviously hurt,
but he missed a quartery.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
He played well against US, Yeah, he played. He played well.
It's altered away.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He only three point eighty carry, but he got what
he needed when he needed to get it. A lot
of that average came down in the second half when
they were just running the dive and you know, and
kind of getting out of there. I've always liked him
as a player. I think he's explosive. I think he's strong.
You don't something like twenty something twenty three twenty four
reps on the bench, you know at the combine four
four guy. You know he's got speed, he's got strength,
(26:55):
and I think the biggest thing for me is he
sees it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, he's got vision.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, you know you said you had some holes that
cut back lanes last year you could drive a Jobbo
jet through. The guys were missing and Jk's not the
guy that misses those kind of cutback lanes.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
See. I think when the Broncos drafted R. J.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Harvey and they were looking at their boards as far
as other veteran free agents, I feel as though Dobbins
was definitely on the on the board and this was
one of those moves they were just trying to see
how things are going to work out. But for me,
I feel as though they've been thinking about this for
a long.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Time that that would be man if we had JK. Dobbins,
that running my room is going to instantly be much deeper.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
He's a guy that, like I said, talk about the
vision like a guy who sees, you know, sees through
traffic and uh and accelerates.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Broncos Country Tons.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Been all right in Fergus and the Hall of Famous
Steve at Wanta Grass Smith back there producing five sixty
six nine zero is the text line.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You guys want to get involved in the conversation. We
got again ota you guess, and be out there tomorrow.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be out there, so you get
what appearance I promise in sleeves. Okay, okay, so your
whole no sleeves.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
What's the today workout thing that nobody was supposed to
see me because I was gonna go home and change.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was just trying to get tan on my arm.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Well pistols, I don't know if we call guns.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh my goodness, what do you what do you want
to see? Don't what do you guys want to see
out there? The more for me.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You know, OTAs is an opportunity for the young guys
to go out there and compete because they had their
rookie kind of mini camp, and obviously when the veterans
come back, a lot of your reps are now reduced.
Now I was like, well, what's one of those guys
are able to make that jump where they can actually
fit in?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And I know sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Even though it's ball is ball, but but jumping from
JV DI varsity football in high school is one one jump,
and that takes a certain type of mindset. But when
you jump from being that dude in college, so now
you're jumping to the pro game where this is your job.
(29:09):
Guys have mortgages that they have to pay, some guys
have child support that they had to pay.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Some guys have a lot of child support exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So you think about what that level of competition is
going to look like and can you elevate your level
of play to that new standard. But more importantly, what
I look for is consistency. It's okay for a guy
to go out even at this you know, shorten t
shirt Olympics and make it play, But can you come
back the remaining of the practice, make another play, and
(29:39):
then the next.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Day can and continue that that moment I'm going for.
Who's a specific guy you're looking for? I mean, for me,
it's been no secret. Devon Vele is kind of my guy,
and we saw him getting work, you know obviously last week.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I expect that to continue. But who are people some
some specific guys. I agree with what you're.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Saying that, uh yeah, the competition, you know, you's got
to be at a high level. But I would say,
more than anything right now, I want to see who
has picked up the offense, defense, whatever you're doing out there,
whatever role you're playing, who's not making the mistakes the
same mistakes that you may have made in the mini camp.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You know, you got to improve.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
You got to know what you're doing before you can
go really full speed of time.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Try to go full speed when you don't know.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
But we'll sure and we should be able to tell
some of those things from watching the guys who are
flying around. Guys they're in the right place. We should
be able to tell some of those things from watching practice.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
For me, you know, the guy that I want to
see is Troy Franklin.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Troy Franklin had several opportunities last season in the game
to make some big catches like he made with bo
at Oregon, but he just kind of lost his concentration
late and I want to see him come back because.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Lessure his name was being talked about a lot. He was,
you know, the dropping of the passes.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know, the former offensive I guess you want to
call a passing game.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Coach with the Alliance with the Lions, he was constantly
on Troy Franklin.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But I got a chance to talk to him as
to why he was on Troy, Because when you see
a player has the ability and they're not living up
to it, you got to stay on that player.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You want to make sure. Well, I can't, No, I
mean I'm not. He said John Morton was practice.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You heard it.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
You couldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He was like it was like Bill Kolark, right.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But the idea is that he stayed on him because
he knew that he had some ability and maybe now
with the coach gone, maybe maybe Troy could come out
of his shell.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now now we see more of who he is. And
then also here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
He's been in the office for the second year, right,
so so things should come to him a lot faster.
So that's the guy who I have my eye on
because if he can take his game to a whole
different level and hit that next geme, it's going to
work out for him. But it's also going to work
out with from with his former Oregon teammate than bo Nicks.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Yeah, well, I'm looking at the cornerback position, Chris Abrams,
Draine day, Kawa, McMillan.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
He's got some competition there with John A. Barron uh
a slot cornerback position. We all know that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
See, most people are sleeping on Jakuan Oh, he's a balla.
See for me, this move is only going to make
him better because he was one of those type of
players that I say he's a dog type player.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Drafting Jaday Baron.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And everyone's talking about, well, Jada Barron is coming from
his spot. We're going to see him take Jaquan McMillan
take his game to the next level.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Competition brings excellence, right absolutely, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
And you could never have too many great corners. You
can never have too many great receivers, can never have
too many great running backs.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, we don't have enough great minutes to keep great
people like Steve that. Well, we got to hit a break, guys,
we come back.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
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