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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It looks like some.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Bad weather rolling through Denver right now. Luh lorrainie out there.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's uh NBA finals are starting to night.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Day two of O t A's was open to the media.
We got Parker Gabriel a little bit later. Joey Richard's
gonna join us. Uh, Nick here you nobody. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ben. I see you came in today sleeves attached. I did.
I was shamed out of my sleep.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Was a tire from yesterday to be shamed. You guys
shamed me out of it. When you say you guys,
what do you mean? What do you mean when you say.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That you guys?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You and granted everybody else was making fun of my sleeveless,
hooded attire.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, okay, when you walk into the studio with the
Bill belichicking and type.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Of I was going full Belichick.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, and I was wondering where was your you know,
Jordan Hudson, but you yes, she's the house.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He's at the house.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But when you walk out like that, wouldn't I supposed
to think I hadn't seen you in a while.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So I was basketing your sleepless glory. I just look,
I've lost weight, I'm I'm working out, feeling better, doing better.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And I was like, you know what, suns that guns out,
But the suns weren't out, and then and the guns
weren't out.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So I guess blame you for this, Drey Seattle tight
whether we have right.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now, God is trying to not see me in sleepless attire.
He's like, you know what, let's keep it cold. We'll
keep it raining, all right, We'll we'll bring it wear
sleeves like a like a copper.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Off, and we'll make it happen. Yeah, it was interesting
day to day.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We got to go out there and observe ot as
for the league minimum that we're allowed out there to
coet is it a lead? The absolute minimum, the absolute
minimum that we were allowed out.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
There to see what They even have us around the
corner at the getting so.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That we couldn't see what was going on on the field,
you know, then we would move to kind of a
I mean a decent little hill, see a.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Little bit better, you know. Once week once we got
in there.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But I was like, yeah, the first part of the
hot where we weren't allowed to observe or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We had to stay behind this wall, and like, oh
my god, you know what.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It would it would be great if we could observe
more about about the team, but uh, you know, you
take what you can get. And with the limited amount
of time that we had to look at the team,
I don't know about you, there were a couple of
things that I really enjoyed watching.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And for me, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
A defensive person through and through, so my eyes are
automatically drawn to the defensive side of the ball. And man,
I'm like a little kid on Easter with a new
Eastern basket just kind of watching this defense and I
just can't wait to watch them actually play together.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It just it just high anticipation.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Does that Does that mean that this year's defense with
additions was be able to duplicate what they did last year?
You'd never know. Every year is a change, Teams make adjustments.
But man, damn happy about it. Yeah, I think I
think it's gonna be good. I thought, my guy pretty good.
We'll get into all that stuff here. I love how
you say you're a guy because he's been Okay, Okay,
(03:09):
so let's clarify claim. Okay, So I want I want
to make sure I get this correct because if I'm
not mistaken, I think both you and Ryan are both
laying claiming.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Ryan, I am one hundred percent okay, because if I'm
not mistaken and Jack you don't correct me, there may
be some if you get on the bus, he's gotta
go back and sit.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, Okay, because I thought I saw Ryan tweet something
about today's practice and mentioned about.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, maybe the superior talent of Devon Vley, but you
put my guy in there hashtag I.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Got a check. Don't hold me to it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But I thought if I didn't read it incorrectly, he
might have made it seem as though like like he
was on Devon Valley before anybody.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh this is this is this could get spicy, this
could this could.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Make that's correct me if I am, because I don't
want to start anything.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
But but I thought it was kind of made mention
of it. Okay. Quote from Ryan Edwards Twitter.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, Devon villet Rocks uses his frame to box out
DB's made a great catch on the sideline over McMillan.
Good coverage, better contested catch. So you know there, no,
my guy, maybe just late to the party.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You've already been Okay, all right. I was like, there's
a room on the bush for everybody. But I'm driving
this show. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm just trying to make sure you know.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
When we saw him laying claim the players, I saw
him first.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And Rocking Scouting did not see him for people are
Utah did not see him first.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was there at his junior high.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
School, the cliff side and the bushes thing.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, I remember that you had it, Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
The best, the best Cliss story of all time was
when we were up in uh we were up in
Indianapolis for the combine and Mike got mistaken for Joe
Biden by drunk guy.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The camera on him, some drug guy. I thought he
was Joe Biden. Well, okay, there it is. Now.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
When you first said some guy mistaken Cliff for Joe Biden, I.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Was like, this is years ago, how is that possible?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
But but once again, when you further that with he
was intoxicated, I can see this is years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But yeah, that was That's an all time classic, UH classic.
On that, We'll get to more. From training camp, we
got plenty of stuff. We got Parker Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
A little bit later, we're gonna talk to Joy Richards
and we got plenty of O t A stuff We're
gonna get into, uh here just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But he is the opening night of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
To be Karen Wall about the Indiana Pacers taking on
the okac Thunder, is.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It is that too regional for fans?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I don't know about I mean, if you're asking
Nuggets fans, they don't give to Nicholas about it, just
like as fans don't care about the Panthers and Edmonton
Oil is playing for the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But me, being a sports fan, I like this.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I like both the Stanley Cup matchup between Edmonton and
the Florida Panthers, but also like this match up between
the Pacers and Oka See.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Just think about it, we got two teams in.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
The final competing for the Lettery of Brian Trophy that
at the beginning of the season nobody would have had
these two teams where they are now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And the thing about it for me is I think
the Pacers match up better with okay See than for instance,
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think the only team that really matched up out
of the.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
East, maybe better with Okac than the Pacers would have
been the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And they got knocked out early. Yeah they did.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And the one thing I love about this series is
that no matter who you root for, there's going to
be a level of excitement. And we always hear about
the NBA being the game of runs. We've seen the
OKC Thunder overcome deficis, but we've also seen the Pacers
do it in the very exciting way and multiple series.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So this whole idea that no lead is safe, it
is very true.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You have to play your best basketball and you're starting
five has to go into that fourth quarter with very
few files, right, that's gonna be really important. The one
thing I love about Okac, man is they have their
version of the Twin Towers, right they they And when
you look at hard.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Seign and you know what's the other guy, John Blaker's name, Holger.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yes, those two guys do a great job playing and
feeding off one another. And here's where OKAC is great.
They're great in so many different ways defensively, but those
second chance points, those tapouts right to give those extra possessions,
this is where I'm looking to see how those post
players are going to play in this series.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be an interesting matchup. Okay, see,
I think is a little bit better on defense obviously,
and they you know, they they love to pressure you
from the from the from the key, from the other key. Yes,
you know, they're a three quarter court defense team, which
is it's both these guys played both these teams play
defense kind of that way, and it's it's sort of
interesting to watch a style of defense that you thought
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was extinct in the league. Almost nobody everybody who's half
court pickup, you know, and now you've got you've got
three quarter court you know, pressure all the way up,
you know, kind.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Of basketball team. And uh, it's it's it's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
By question, and somebody on the text line is sort
of alluded to it already. Is are the ratings for
this NBA Finals going to be the lowest ever?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You know what, because they're let me start to be
back in for a second, I'm gonna say yes. And
the reason I'm gonna say yes is because you don't
have some of this kind of uber superstar names playing
in the finals. You know, Steph Curry, Lebron. When you
think about Nicola, you don't have any of those names.
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But to me, this is the new NBA. This is
the NBA that takes me back to when I was
a kid in the eighties and nineties watching basketball. Well,
you got all around game inside outside, but more importantly,
you got great defense. It's just like some fans don't
like to watch football games that have baseball scores right,
they want to see high scoring efficiency. For me, I
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like the low school dude. I love defense. I want
to see you shut other people down. You're playing a
prolific run game versus a run stopping defense. Something's got
to give. So for me, if you love the game
of basketball and you love fundamentals like the throwback Fundamentals,
you're going to love this series. No, it's not going
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to have some of those superstar names, but you have
a bunch of young and upcoming superstars playing in the series.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, you do, and it should it should be a
lot of fun. It's it's interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know how the Pacers, I mean the okayse was
okay see all year, I mean they were dominant all year.
But the Pacers, once they hit the playoffs kind of
sort of became this team of destiny a little bit.
They found ways to make clutch shots, you know, found
ways to erase huge deficits late. They just keep finding ways.
And I don't know if that magic evaporates all of
a sudden, or if this is just their years as
a team that that has done that, whether that's uh,
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you know, playing with the chip on your shoulder, if
you're you're Tyre's Halliburton, who was voted by his peers
as the most overrated player in the league.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I still that's that one st baffles me. I bet
those people choking on their words right now, that's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Because when that list came out, I was like, he
might be the most underrated player in the league, and
the guys in the league are voting him most overrated.
Like what does he talk to people during games and
gets on their nerves or something?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, you got that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You've got the situation with his dad that happened. Uh,
you know, all that kind of stuff, all the distractions
around it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
What is it with NBA dads?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, what's going on with that? Usually you see something
like that maybe in Pop Warner football.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, Well, I mean, you know, I wouldn't call Washington
Pop Warner football.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That was that was an Archie three joke.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's that's this gold That is dirty man, dirty. Tell
me where that dude though? That was a problem. But yeah,
typically you see that and like you know.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
All the way up through high school football maybe, but
you don't on the pro level, right.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Never on the pro level. But here's a great thing
about it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
These guys have an opportunity to come out and make people.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Know their names. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
We already heard a man who said that he doesn't
really want to be the face of the NBA. Who
is to say that SGA or Holler Burden can't really
put themselves in that rare ara. Now SGA is definitely
there for sure. Yeah, and this is the excellent opportunity
for the Pacers to really show people who haven't really
seen them play, right, what they can actually do collectively
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as a team.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So I'm excited about the series. Yeah, I'm too. If
if OKC.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Dominates or like sweeps, the Pacers just suddenly change the
narrative about the Nuggets taking them to seven or does
that even matter.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And I know some Nuggets fans would just kind of say, well, hey,
we took them to seven. Look, the Nuggets, in my opinion,
would have prepared Oka se because okay.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
See looked at the Nuggets as being the measuring stick.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And if you can beat that team, that shows that
you have definitely built your roster and your players are
good to go. And the addition of Hartenstein and Caruso
changed so much for this young OKC team.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now, I mean, if you're.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
A Nuggets fan, maybe try to take something out of it.
If if okay See wins it all you can just say, okay,
well we challenged.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That particular team. We take a chanstance. Yes you can.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You can try that, and I'll be okay with that.
But let's not be mistaken. Let's not take anything away
from this OKC team. I mean, they've earned the right
to be here. Sga being the MVP, He've had a
fantastic year. Last year it went to Jokic. Well, once
again on a bigger stage, he showed up. Now this
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is his moment to submit himself. Like other players in
the past. Remember when Steph Curry came out of kind
of college, not too many people who thought he would
develop into the player he is he was too skinny,
he didn't play defense, he didn't have strong enough ankles.
But once he got on this particular stage where everyone's
watching you, this is your moment. And here's why I
(13:21):
will equated to Ben As from a football standpoint, playing
on Monday night football, right, Thursday night football great, But
in my time it was Monday night football and John
Madden is on the call.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Summer. Oh man, that was the duo. That was the duo.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
So maximizing these moments and making the most of it, hopefully,
you know they do that. But I wonder if we're
going to get any type of celebratory things though we
got from Halliburton pass. We had one when he was
giving the choke to paying homage Reggie Miller. And then
there's another gesture that I really don't know how to describe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Wait, I don't know how to wear, but very descriptive. Nonetheless, Yeah,
and that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That's gonna Be's the Miles Turner had a quote about,
you know, we built this thing brick by brick, and
I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
There's a joke in there about bricks, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But there's also a tie into that because he is
like the world's biggest Lego officionado.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Really yeah, he's uh, how deep does this go?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
It goes like he on his Twitter or TikTok or whatever,
He's like, girls are cool. But if you ever experienced
the feeling of finishing a one thousand piece lego set, like, hey, he's.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Sorry, DoD, Yeah, I'm sorry. No, No, he's got the crown,
that's fine. Yeah, he went on TikTok to show office
his lego collection.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He's got a Lego Millennium Falcon, a death Star appmobile
about wing but the crem to, the cram, the big
the biggest thing that he has. He has a nine thousand,
ninety piece one to two hundred exact replica of the
Titanic made out of legos. He's fifty four inches long
ten inches tall, and it cost him nine hundred dollars
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to buy it and have it shipped from the Philippines.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, so so he didn't construct it himself. He did
he put it all together himself.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, listen, that is I mean an
accomplishment within his own But if what you said to
describe this is how he's read that again, as far.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
As he was tongue in cheek, but he said, girls
are cool at all, But have you ever experienced the
feeling of finishing a one thousand plus piece Lego set?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Once again, I like Lego Legos are cool it all, Miles,
But yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know
about that.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is that is an obscenely large Lego set and it
is a ridiculous, I think. I mean, I say ridiculous,
but I mean it in the that is a mind
blowing hobby that you have, that that much of it.
Is there any hobby that you have that even matches
that level.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Of No, because you got to think about that. That's
a certain level of dedication that you have to put in.
And he say nine thousand.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Pieces, third largest according to our Crack research staff, which
is consists solely of ZECS seekers. Back to apparently, here's
the third largest Lego piece Lego thing out there?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
What's the largest?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
At number two, there's an Eiffel Tower, and an Eiffel
Tower for ten thousand pieces, ten thousand and one actually,
and then there's a Lego Art world map. It kind
of just looks like a rainbow colored world map, and
that comes in at eleven thousand, six hundred and ninety
five pieces.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That sounds like something a single man within his time doing.
You know what this sounds like.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That sounds like at night when I'm walking through in
the dark and I stepped my.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Foot down on the corner of one of those legils
and I look like a shark surfacing. Are you screaming?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
There's nothing hurts worse than it a betted lego at
your foot.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Look, I know.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You you've been in the military before, and I know
there's all types of military type of weapons or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's just like, man, just drop some legos. You want
to see the.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Russians legos across all the bridges and do it at night.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Do it? Do it at night. There is nothing worse
foot stepping on the corner. I mean it is the
absolute worst existence. A parent.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I can, yeah, I mean I and I you know,
just saying like, hey, I can't even of all the
things out there. We have plenty of stuff to get to.
We're gonna get to uh uh second day of media
O tas here coming up here. In the next segment,
Broncos had dinner with JK. Dobbins. He has left without
a deal, but we'll get to we'll get to more
information on that.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Here's listen to Broncos Country Night right here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Okay, relationship is working relationship and then it's outside of
the office working.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Really, they were thickest things man like Lex Luthor.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Notice the original Superman, No no, get these jokes in
oh five six six, nine zeros of text line say,
I thank two Media for ot as today.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You obviously had your eye on the defense.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I was look a little more at the offensively because
there's some players there that I think, you know, everybody's
kind of got there, wants to.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Know, wants to know about, get their eyes on. The
thing I get asked about most is R. J.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Harvey and Pap Bryant Day Barron, who was the number
one pick by the Broncos Hero Wasikes is actually the
third most person I get I get asked about. But
I thought R. J. Harvey looked pretty good. You can
see you can see the quicks, you can see the
explosiveness there. I mean, it's it's tough, you know, when
nobody's pads on, it's tough to really tell some of
these things, but you can you can kind of see
the speed out there. If you'd be looking at it, Brian.
You know, he looks like he's going to be a contributor.
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I I I mostly had my eyes on Vala Vale though,
like he was getting targets. He was, you know, he
was making the catches. And I'm I'm saying that might be.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Valley a season, might be Vailey season. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know if I fully buy into that. Is
he a key cog in the wild of the Broncos offense?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
But if you let's just do this exercise really quickly,
looking at the wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Wide receiver one right now with who Coltland, Sutton? Will
he wait, you said, but will even be here. Let's
talk about the players.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
We can only talk about the players that are here,
that are here, right Cortland.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Was wide receiver one.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
But Devin Melee last year, even missing all those games
to the cracked ribs, was still the wide receiver who
ran the second most routes on the team in fact
any position, and the second mold routs on the team.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Okay, well second most ross, but who had the most
targets and reception exactly, so you can run all the
routes you want.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
We if we're not throwing it to you then whatever.
So right to be fair. Little George Humphrey was third, so.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He's no longer on his roster. He's not right for
for a very good reason. So wide receiver one is
Corlin Sunn. We're gonna agree on wide receiver two. Your
mind is who?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, I guess that that that question comes down to
how you classify wide receiver too. Who's getting the second
most targets. I think that'll be Vley. Uh, he third
most targets. Last year, Davante was number two, So I
think the running back room will be will be you know,
getting quite a few targets. But in terms of wide
receiver with the second most targets, I mean last year
it was Vley. He only started seven games and he
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had fifty five targets.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, So for you, your wide receiver two is male.
My wide receiver two is Marvin min. I would have
him as three. I think it'd be the third most
s right now.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Mims might lead the team in receiving touchdowns, but I
think he's wide receiver three on the team in terms
of targets. He'll absolutely lead the team in yards per
reception because he's gonna get all the bombs. Every time
you run in a Bang eight or Bank nine, it's
gonna be Martin Vms.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
But then to me, if you're looking, and it all
depends on who you're playing and where you are in
the progressions as far as how the receivers are deploy
But if you want those big money shots, obviously that's
martn Min right right. There are a total agreement there, right,
And I put him in wide receiver too because of
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that calling being the elder states men in the room,
most experienced, a reliable weapon for Bodic's last year.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
He is still wide receiver one.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Now Vyle could have more targets because he's one of
those guys who can work underneath, and to me, that's
how he's going to be utilized, and that is a
quarterback's safety blanket, those underneath routes.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, it's fascinating because I think a lot of people
are you know that something led the team with eight
touchdown Receptionship Mims had six. Mims was there, it was six,
and Marvin Mims could absolutely be the top touchdown guy
on the Broncos this year, especially almost deep plays. But
I do believe Veiley will get spammed with a lot
of the underneath targets.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't think so, fam.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I think that number, whatever he had last year, that's
going to be cut into why Evan frankin Ingram And
this is a great problem to have to have a
diverse group of skilled players that you can deploy and
scheme up to free them up. I mean, this is
the problem that the Broncos haven't had in years. And also,
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by the way, the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Haven't had that dude at tight end in years.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well, I think Ingram will probably get little Jordan Humphrey's
forty five targets, and he'll probably get Lucas Croll and
Adam Troutman's forty five combined targets for the season.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's ninety right, that's ninety targets right there. That's that's
Ingram's targets. That's not still bore targets than they might
have had last year.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But again, he started seven games, he had fifty five.
I think Vlee's gonna eat it a sudden. I think
he's gonna eat in dude, how'd you know targets?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know what Sean Payton is thinking, but I
would like to think if you're gonna bring in a
tight end like Evan Ingram, knowing as though you've had
tight ends on your roster some by certain media details
or Hall of famers, right, but once again, you're not
(22:56):
gonna bring in Evan Ingram and give him less targets
and knowing as though if when you watch him at practice,
I mean even though he's a tight end, and that
dude moves around like a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's why I mean, you have a drinking game around
here for a time. A heavy slot.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But that's why I just call him a heavy slot
because he's not really a tight and he didn't play
in line, you know. I mean the closest comp you'd
have would be like Jimmy Graham. But Graham even played
more in line than Evan Ingram does. I think the
other thing that we're not taking you into a cadger.
Jamontay Williams got seventy targets last year and they're receiving
him seventy. He was second on the team. Those are
going to be redistributed to between the running backs, the
(23:31):
tight end, whatever those are, those are going to be
those are going to go with the places.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Half of those targets, if not all of those targets
will go to Evan Ingram, because once again, I look
at it like baseball.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's spacing, right, It's space and pace.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And having those shallow underneath rocks.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
And just go back to watching any.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Film with Evan Ingram, whether he's was with the Giants
or he was with the Jaguars, how were they using
him a lot of those off the ball coming on
the knee in those shallow routes, freeing him up.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
To me, that's run after catch. Yeah, and that's what
he was between the between the twenty shallow route kind
of guy. They use him on the screen quite a bit.
I remember the year in Jacksonville when he had like
a hundred targets. There were so many screens to that
guy that year where they would try to get a
corner lined up out in front of him and then
they just run him over. But yeah, and I do
believe I'm with you on that Ingram is going to
(24:24):
eat into so much of Avante's you.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Know, targets as well. But R. J. Harvey and potentially JK.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Dobbins, who you know was visiting last night, was was
visiting the facility today. You know those those guys could
they're gonna get their fair share as well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Well. Once again, it's it's bad distribution because as a
defensive player, it makes a defensive coordinator think about how
he scheme me and you may change it up from
quarter to quarter. But if things go as well as
I'm hoping they go for the Broncos knock on wood, everyone's.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Healthy, then it's it's equal ball distribution.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's going to be a game where one guy may
get the bulk of the receptions.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The next next game it changes.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So it keeps the defense thinking, well, who is it
going to be this week? And more importantly, that's an
easy throw for a quarterback, you know, turn around five
yards in out, curl hook, whatever it is. And to me,
that's the world that Evan Ingram is going to eat
and live in.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And that's the ideal for the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I mean, you talked about spacing that that they didn't
have a tight end to help space everything out last year,
and so there were some things with with Sean Payton's
offense that were a little quirky that they didn't you know,
and they were trying to do other things to create
that we saw Mills get lined up in the backfield.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You know, we saw we saw several different things like that.
We don't see that any would never want to see
that again. I don't want to see that. You don't
ever line him up in the backfield ever. You can.
You can do a little bump pass if you put
him on a jet motion or something. You wanna do
a little bump pass. Get cute with it. Okay, fine,
don't line him up in the back.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Say that's the kind of equivalent to me watching Pat
Shermer saying Jerry Judy on on jet.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Sweeps every time.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's like Marvin Maham's skill set is best suited to
go vertical speed. It's like it's like if you if
you are coach Mike McDaniels down in Miami, and you
know you have Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill, are you using.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Them to run parallel to the line of the screen.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
We're pa deep crossers every play. Yes, I'm paying you
a significant amount of money, right. I don't want you
just running have gassers. I want you running full gasser
So we need you running vertical. And that's why I
want to see Marvin mamms another reason why I have
Marvin Mahms on my list as being wide.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Receiver number two. I'm with him.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yes, he tries to find all types of ways act
to deflect, throw people off the scent.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You guys gotta find find better. It wasn't this, I'll
tell you this. It was a British band. It was
a British band.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yep, okay, really pointing to one direction, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They're pointing in one direction that you're in the direction,
that you're wrong, pointing in one direction. Yeah, you'll never
guess it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It was a tiny British band.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That tiny British band, nobody ever heard of. Yeah, one direction,
not known for being giants, right, not very ensemble cast of.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm telling you, I'm actually I'm wrong on that because
like that, that one wouldn't be my favorite. I guess
Sole Decision would have probably been my favorite. You remember
the Faded? I bet that song's in the system.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Hmmm, I don't remember that one.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I mean, like all, if you're going all time
boy bands, I mean you probably have.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
To go with Sole decision.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, soul as in the soul, yes OUI I don't
think we have any.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Sould decision in the Sea ecided on YouTube. It's it's
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
There's I mean, there's quite a few out there that
I think fitted DISCRI mean you could call the Beatles
a boy band.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, you can, the Originals Origin just like you know.
I mean, I've heard an all time boy band would
probably be a new addition if we're being honest.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, But then, like Soule Decision, I liked that they
had a couple of songs that I liked. There was
the British Bland was called bb MAC. They were it
was like nineteen ninety nine. They had one song in.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
America that even charted.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, I was never a I was never a big
fan of the boy band overall, despite the fact that I,
you know, was in a singing group. I'm not gonna
call it a boy band. I can get you the
satisfaction A band of boys. Yes, No, and that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Sounds like that, that sounds like the weird that sounds
knockoff band of brothers.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yes, it sounds like someone's in the Conversion band and
you're not allowed to drive.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
That sounds all that's uh yeah uh.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They on the text line bit has sleeveless one direction shirts.
My favorite girl band is the Dixie Chicks. According to
the text line.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Hey listen, I like the chicks. See to me, it's
not the lack of sleaves that bother me. It's the
it's the cropped stomach that really that's collection.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yes, yeah, I mean well, look, if you got it,
you got to flow it, and if you don't got it,
you also got to flow it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, but you know what could be excellent, I guess
band of brothers, boy band or what have you want
to phrase it? It Broncos running back row. Yeah, they
definitely need that extra juice. Man.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
JK.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Dobbins is, by the way, text line Beach Boys, this
is the original boy band.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well done, okay, Frankie value the four seasons that comes
to the running back Room. I'm with you. JK.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Dobbins came in, had the you know, the thing around
the private workout and you know, meeting the people, physical,
all that kind of stuff left with other country.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That does not mean that JK. Dobbins is off the table.
Let me be emphatically clear.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Sure, because the same thing happened with Evan Ing, right,
And That's what I'm getting at is she's like, this
is not like the John elway days where you either
signed while you were here or there was nothing you
were done.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You know, uh, this is not like that. This, you
know this.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
They they tend to like, Okay, well you want to
go talk to the chargers, all right, I finger go
talk to the chargers. We'll be right here. And then
he came back and he did he which brings me
to another boy band aloys to men on bended knee.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
But you know what, listen, there's more to talk about,
an unpack with this whole JK. Dobbins thing, and maybe
why didn't go through today and why I can go
through moving forward?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We can get to that on the other side. Rockets
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get involved in the conversations, stay safe OUTO.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It looks like some.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Bad weather rolling through Denver right now. Luh lorrainie out there.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's uh NBA finals are starting to night.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Day two of O t A's was open to the media.
We got Parker Gabriel a little bit later. Joey Richard's
gonna join us. Uh, Nick here you nobody. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ben. I see you came in today sleeves attached. I did.
I was shamed out of my sleep.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Was a tire from yesterday to be shamed. You guys
shamed me out of it. When you say you guys,
what do you mean? What do you mean when you say.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That you guys?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You and granted everybody else was making fun of my sleeveless,
hooded attire.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, okay, when you walk into the studio with the
Bill belichicking and type.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Of I was going full Belichick.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, and I was wondering where was your you know,
Jordan Hudson, but you yes, she's the house.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He's at the house.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But when you walk out like that, wouldn't I supposed
to think I hadn't seen you in a while.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So I was basketing your sleepless glory. I just look,
I've lost weight, I'm I'm working out, feeling better, doing better.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And I was like, you know what, suns that guns out,
But the suns weren't out, and then and the guns
weren't out.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So I guess blame you for this, Drey Seattle tight
whether we have right.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now, God is trying to not see me in sleepless attire.
He's like, you know what, let's keep it cold. We'll
keep it raining, all right, We'll we'll bring it wear
sleeves like a like a copper.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Off, and we'll make it happen. Yeah, it was interesting
day to day.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We got to go out there and observe ot as
for the league minimum that we're allowed out there to
coet is it a lead? The absolute minimum, the absolute
minimum that we were allowed out.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
There to see what They even have us around the
corner at the getting so.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That we couldn't see what was going on on the field,
you know, then we would move to kind of a
I mean a decent little hill, see a.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Little bit better, you know. Once week once we got
in there.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But I was like, yeah, the first part of the
hot where we weren't allowed to observe or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We had to stay behind this wall, and like, oh
my god, you know what.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It would it would be great if we could observe
more about about the team, but uh, you know, you
take what you can get. And with the limited amount
of time that we had to look at the team,
I don't know about you, there were a couple of
things that I really enjoyed watching.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And for me, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
A defensive person through and through, so my eyes are
automatically drawn to the defensive side of the ball. And man,
I'm like a little kid on Easter with a new
Eastern basket just kind of watching this defense and I
just can't wait to watch them actually play together.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It just it just high anticipation.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Does that Does that mean that this year's defense with
additions was be able to duplicate what they did last year?
You'd never know. Every year is a change, Teams make adjustments.
But man, damn happy about it. Yeah, I think I
think it's gonna be good. I thought, my guy pretty good.
We'll get into all that stuff here. I love how
you say you're a guy because he's been Okay, Okay,
(03:09):
so let's clarify claim. Okay, So I want I want
to make sure I get this correct because if I'm
not mistaken, I think both you and Ryan are both
laying claiming.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Ryan, I am one hundred percent okay, because if I'm
not mistaken and Jack you don't correct me, there may
be some if you get on the bus, he's gotta
go back and sit.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, Okay, because I thought I saw Ryan tweet something
about today's practice and mentioned about.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, maybe the superior talent of Devon Vley, but you
put my guy in there hashtag I.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Got a check. Don't hold me to it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But I thought if I didn't read it incorrectly, he
might have made it seem as though like like he
was on Devon Valley before anybody.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh this is this is this could get spicy, this
could this could.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Make that's correct me if I am, because I don't
want to start anything.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
But but I thought it was kind of made mention
of it. Okay. Quote from Ryan Edwards Twitter.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, Devon villet Rocks uses his frame to box out
DB's made a great catch on the sideline over McMillan.
Good coverage, better contested catch. So you know there, no,
my guy, maybe just late to the party.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You've already been Okay, all right. I was like, there's
a room on the bush for everybody. But I'm driving
this show. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm just trying to make sure you know.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
When we saw him laying claim the players, I saw
him first.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And Rocking Scouting did not see him for people are
Utah did not see him first.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was there at his junior high.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
School, the cliff side and the bushes thing.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, I remember that you had it, Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
The best, the best Cliss story of all time was
when we were up in uh we were up in
Indianapolis for the combine and Mike got mistaken for Joe
Biden by drunk guy.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The camera on him, some drug guy. I thought he
was Joe Biden. Well, okay, there it is. Now.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
When you first said some guy mistaken Cliff for Joe Biden, I.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Was like, this is years ago, how is that possible?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
But but once again, when you further that with he
was intoxicated, I can see this is years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But yeah, that was That's an all time classic, UH classic.
On that, We'll get to more. From training camp, we
got plenty of stuff. We got Parker Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
A little bit later, we're gonna talk to Joy Richards
and we got plenty of O t A stuff We're
gonna get into, uh here just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But he is the opening night of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
To be Karen Wall about the Indiana Pacers taking on
the okac Thunder, is.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It is that too regional for fans?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I don't know about I mean, if you're asking
Nuggets fans, they don't give to Nicholas about it, just
like as fans don't care about the Panthers and Edmonton
Oil is playing for the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But me, being a sports fan, I like this.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I like both the Stanley Cup matchup between Edmonton and
the Florida Panthers, but also like this match up between
the Pacers and Oka See.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Just think about it, we got two teams in.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
The final competing for the Lettery of Brian Trophy that
at the beginning of the season nobody would have had
these two teams where they are now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And the thing about it for me is I think
the Pacers match up better with okay See than for instance,
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think the only team that really matched up out
of the.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
East, maybe better with Okac than the Pacers would have
been the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And they got knocked out early. Yeah they did.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And the one thing I love about this series is
that no matter who you root for, there's going to
be a level of excitement. And we always hear about
the NBA being the game of runs. We've seen the
OKC Thunder overcome deficis, but we've also seen the Pacers
do it in the very exciting way and multiple series.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So this whole idea that no lead is safe, it
is very true.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You have to play your best basketball and you're starting
five has to go into that fourth quarter with very
few files, right, that's gonna be really important. The one
thing I love about Okac, man is they have their
version of the Twin Towers, right they they And when
you look at hard.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Seign and you know what's the other guy, John Blaker's name, Holger.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yes, those two guys do a great job playing and
feeding off one another. And here's where OKAC is great.
They're great in so many different ways defensively, but those
second chance points, those tapouts right to give those extra possessions,
this is where I'm looking to see how those post
players are going to play in this series.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be an interesting matchup. Okay, see,
I think is a little bit better on defense obviously,
and they you know, they they love to pressure you
from the from the from the key, from the other key. Yes,
you know, they're a three quarter court defense team, which
is it's both these guys played both these teams play
defense kind of that way, and it's it's sort of
interesting to watch a style of defense that you thought
(08:14):
was extinct in the league. Almost nobody everybody who's half
court pickup, you know, and now you've got you've got
three quarter court you know, pressure all the way up,
you know, kind.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Of basketball team. And uh, it's it's it's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
By question, and somebody on the text line is sort
of alluded to it already. Is are the ratings for
this NBA Finals going to be the lowest ever?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You know what, because they're let me start to be
back in for a second, I'm gonna say yes. And
the reason I'm gonna say yes is because you don't
have some of this kind of uber superstar names playing
in the finals. You know, Steph Curry, Lebron. When you
think about Nicola, you don't have any of those names.
(08:56):
But to me, this is the new NBA. This is
the NBA that takes me back to when I was
a kid in the eighties and nineties watching basketball. Well,
you got all around game inside outside, but more importantly,
you got great defense. It's just like some fans don't
like to watch football games that have baseball scores right,
they want to see high scoring efficiency. For me, I
(09:18):
like the low school dude. I love defense. I want
to see you shut other people down. You're playing a
prolific run game versus a run stopping defense. Something's got
to give. So for me, if you love the game
of basketball and you love fundamentals like the throwback Fundamentals,
you're going to love this series. No, it's not going
(09:40):
to have some of those superstar names, but you have
a bunch of young and upcoming superstars playing in the series.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, you do, and it should it should be a
lot of fun. It's it's interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know how the Pacers, I mean the okayse was
okay see all year, I mean they were dominant all year.
But the Pacers, once they hit the playoffs kind of
sort of became this team of destiny a little bit.
They found ways to make clutch shots, you know, found
ways to erase huge deficits late. They just keep finding ways.
And I don't know if that magic evaporates all of
a sudden, or if this is just their years as
a team that that has done that, whether that's uh,
(10:13):
you know, playing with the chip on your shoulder, if
you're you're Tyre's Halliburton, who was voted by his peers
as the most overrated player in the league.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I still that's that one st baffles me. I bet
those people choking on their words right now, that's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Because when that list came out, I was like, he
might be the most underrated player in the league, and
the guys in the league are voting him most overrated.
Like what does he talk to people during games and
gets on their nerves or something?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, you got that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You've got the situation with his dad that happened. Uh,
you know, all that kind of stuff, all the distractions
around it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
What is it with NBA dads?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, what's going on with that? Usually you see something
like that maybe in Pop Warner football.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, Well, I mean, you know, I wouldn't call Washington
Pop Warner football.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That was that was an Archie three joke.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's that's this gold That is dirty man, dirty. Tell
me where that dude though? That was a problem. But yeah,
typically you see that and like you know.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
All the way up through high school football maybe, but
you don't on the pro level, right.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Never on the pro level. But here's a great thing
about it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
These guys have an opportunity to come out and make people.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Know their names. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
We already heard a man who said that he doesn't
really want to be the face of the NBA. Who
is to say that SGA or Holler Burden can't really
put themselves in that rare ara. Now SGA is definitely
there for sure. Yeah, and this is the excellent opportunity
for the Pacers to really show people who haven't really
seen them play, right, what they can actually do collectively
(11:42):
as a team.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So I'm excited about the series. Yeah, I'm too. If
if OKC.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Dominates or like sweeps, the Pacers just suddenly change the
narrative about the Nuggets taking them to seven or does
that even matter.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And I know some Nuggets fans would just kind of say, well, hey,
we took them to seven. Look, the Nuggets, in my opinion,
would have prepared Oka se because okay.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
See looked at the Nuggets as being the measuring stick.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And if you can beat that team, that shows that
you have definitely built your roster and your players are
good to go. And the addition of Hartenstein and Caruso
changed so much for this young OKC team.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now, I mean, if you're.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
A Nuggets fan, maybe try to take something out of it.
If if okay See wins it all you can just say, okay,
well we challenged.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That particular team. We take a chanstance. Yes you can.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You can try that, and I'll be okay with that.
But let's not be mistaken. Let's not take anything away
from this OKC team. I mean, they've earned the right
to be here. Sga being the MVP, He've had a
fantastic year. Last year it went to Jokic. Well, once
again on a bigger stage, he showed up. Now this
(12:59):
is his moment to submit himself. Like other players in
the past. Remember when Steph Curry came out of kind
of college, not too many people who thought he would
develop into the player he is he was too skinny,
he didn't play defense, he didn't have strong enough ankles.
But once he got on this particular stage where everyone's
watching you, this is your moment. And here's why I
(13:21):
will equated to Ben As from a football standpoint, playing
on Monday night football, right, Thursday night football great, But
in my time it was Monday night football and John
Madden is on the call.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Summer. Oh man, that was the duo. That was the duo.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
So maximizing these moments and making the most of it, hopefully,
you know they do that. But I wonder if we're
going to get any type of celebratory things though we
got from Halliburton pass. We had one when he was
giving the choke to paying homage Reggie Miller. And then
there's another gesture that I really don't know how to describe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Wait, I don't know how to wear, but very descriptive. Nonetheless, Yeah,
and that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That's gonna Be's the Miles Turner had a quote about,
you know, we built this thing brick by brick, and
I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
There's a joke in there about bricks, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But there's also a tie into that because he is
like the world's biggest Lego officionado.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Really yeah, he's uh, how deep does this go?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
It goes like he on his Twitter or TikTok or whatever,
He's like, girls are cool. But if you ever experienced
the feeling of finishing a one thousand piece lego set, like, hey, he's.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Sorry, DoD, Yeah, I'm sorry. No, No, he's got the crown,
that's fine. Yeah, he went on TikTok to show office
his lego collection.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He's got a Lego Millennium Falcon, a death Star appmobile
about wing but the crem to, the cram, the big
the biggest thing that he has. He has a nine thousand,
ninety piece one to two hundred exact replica of the
Titanic made out of legos. He's fifty four inches long
ten inches tall, and it cost him nine hundred dollars
(15:02):
to buy it and have it shipped from the Philippines.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, so so he didn't construct it himself. He did
he put it all together himself.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, listen, that is I mean an
accomplishment within his own But if what you said to
describe this is how he's read that again, as far.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
As he was tongue in cheek, but he said, girls
are cool at all, But have you ever experienced the
feeling of finishing a one thousand plus piece Lego set?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Once again, I like Lego Legos are cool it all, Miles,
But yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know
about that.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is that is an obscenely large Lego set and it
is a ridiculous, I think. I mean, I say ridiculous,
but I mean it in the that is a mind
blowing hobby that you have, that that much of it.
Is there any hobby that you have that even matches
that level.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Of No, because you got to think about that. That's
a certain level of dedication that you have to put in.
And he say nine thousand.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Pieces, third largest according to our Crack research staff, which
is consists solely of ZECS seekers. Back to apparently, here's
the third largest Lego piece Lego thing out there?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
What's the largest?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
At number two, there's an Eiffel Tower, and an Eiffel
Tower for ten thousand pieces, ten thousand and one actually,
and then there's a Lego Art world map. It kind
of just looks like a rainbow colored world map, and
that comes in at eleven thousand, six hundred and ninety
five pieces.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That sounds like something a single man within his time doing.
You know what this sounds like.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That sounds like at night when I'm walking through in
the dark and I stepped my.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Foot down on the corner of one of those legils
and I look like a shark surfacing. Are you screaming?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
There's nothing hurts worse than it a betted lego at
your foot.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Look, I know.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You you've been in the military before, and I know
there's all types of military type of weapons or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's just like, man, just drop some legos. You want
to see the.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Russians legos across all the bridges and do it at night.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Do it? Do it at night. There is nothing worse
foot stepping on the corner. I mean it is the
absolute worst existence. A parent.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I can, yeah, I mean I and I you know,
just saying like, hey, I can't even of all the
things out there. We have plenty of stuff to get to.
We're gonna get to uh uh second day of media
O tas here coming up here. In the next segment,
Broncos had dinner with JK. Dobbins. He has left without
a deal, but we'll get to we'll get to more
information on that.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Here's listen to Broncos Country Night right here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Okay, relationship is working relationship and then it's outside of
the office working.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Really, they were thickest things man like Lex Luthor.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Notice the original Superman, No no, get these jokes in
oh five six six, nine zeros of text line say,
I thank two Media for ot as today.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You obviously had your eye on the defense.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I was look a little more at the offensively because
there's some players there that I think, you know, everybody's
kind of got there, wants to.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Know, wants to know about, get their eyes on. The
thing I get asked about most is R. J.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Harvey and Pap Bryant Day Barron, who was the number
one pick by the Broncos Hero Wasikes is actually the
third most person I get I get asked about. But
I thought R. J. Harvey looked pretty good. You can
see you can see the quicks, you can see the
explosiveness there. I mean, it's it's tough, you know, when
nobody's pads on, it's tough to really tell some of
these things, but you can you can kind of see
the speed out there. If you'd be looking at it, Brian.
You know, he looks like he's going to be a contributor.
(18:31):
I I I mostly had my eyes on Vala Vale though,
like he was getting targets. He was, you know, he
was making the catches. And I'm I'm saying that might be.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Valley a season, might be Vailey season. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know if I fully buy into that. Is
he a key cog in the wild of the Broncos offense?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
But if you let's just do this exercise really quickly,
looking at the wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Wide receiver one right now with who Coltland, Sutton? Will
he wait, you said, but will even be here. Let's
talk about the players.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
We can only talk about the players that are here,
that are here, right Cortland.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Was wide receiver one.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
But Devin Melee last year, even missing all those games
to the cracked ribs, was still the wide receiver who
ran the second most routes on the team in fact
any position, and the second mold routs on the team.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Okay, well second most ross, but who had the most
targets and reception exactly, so you can run all the
routes you want.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
We if we're not throwing it to you then whatever.
So right to be fair. Little George Humphrey was third, so.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He's no longer on his roster. He's not right for
for a very good reason. So wide receiver one is
Corlin Sunn. We're gonna agree on wide receiver two. Your
mind is who?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, I guess that that that question comes down to
how you classify wide receiver too. Who's getting the second
most targets. I think that'll be Vley. Uh, he third
most targets. Last year, Davante was number two, So I
think the running back room will be will be you know,
getting quite a few targets. But in terms of wide
receiver with the second most targets, I mean last year
it was Vley. He only started seven games and he
(20:12):
had fifty five targets.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, So for you, your wide receiver two is male.
My wide receiver two is Marvin min. I would have
him as three. I think it'd be the third most
s right now.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Mims might lead the team in receiving touchdowns, but I
think he's wide receiver three on the team in terms
of targets. He'll absolutely lead the team in yards per
reception because he's gonna get all the bombs. Every time
you run in a Bang eight or Bank nine, it's
gonna be Martin Vms.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
But then to me, if you're looking, and it all
depends on who you're playing and where you are in
the progressions as far as how the receivers are deploy
But if you want those big money shots, obviously that's
martn Min right right. There are a total agreement there, right,
And I put him in wide receiver too because of
(20:59):
that calling being the elder states men in the room,
most experienced, a reliable weapon for Bodic's last year.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
He is still wide receiver one.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Now Vyle could have more targets because he's one of
those guys who can work underneath, and to me, that's
how he's going to be utilized, and that is a
quarterback's safety blanket, those underneath routes.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, it's fascinating because I think a lot of people
are you know that something led the team with eight
touchdown Receptionship Mims had six. Mims was there, it was six,
and Marvin Mims could absolutely be the top touchdown guy
on the Broncos this year, especially almost deep plays. But
I do believe Veiley will get spammed with a lot
of the underneath targets.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't think so, fam.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I think that number, whatever he had last year, that's
going to be cut into why Evan frankin Ingram And
this is a great problem to have to have a
diverse group of skilled players that you can deploy and
scheme up to free them up. I mean, this is
the problem that the Broncos haven't had in years. And also,
(22:07):
by the way, the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Haven't had that dude at tight end in years.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well, I think Ingram will probably get little Jordan Humphrey's
forty five targets, and he'll probably get Lucas Croll and
Adam Troutman's forty five combined targets for the season.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's ninety right, that's ninety targets right there. That's that's
Ingram's targets. That's not still bore targets than they might
have had last year.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But again, he started seven games, he had fifty five.
I think Vlee's gonna eat it a sudden. I think
he's gonna eat in dude, how'd you know targets?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know what Sean Payton is thinking, but I
would like to think if you're gonna bring in a
tight end like Evan Ingram, knowing as though you've had
tight ends on your roster some by certain media details
or Hall of famers, right, but once again, you're not
(22:56):
gonna bring in Evan Ingram and give him less targets
and knowing as though if when you watch him at practice,
I mean even though he's a tight end, and that
dude moves around like a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's why I mean, you have a drinking game around
here for a time. A heavy slot.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But that's why I just call him a heavy slot
because he's not really a tight and he didn't play
in line, you know. I mean the closest comp you'd
have would be like Jimmy Graham. But Graham even played
more in line than Evan Ingram does. I think the
other thing that we're not taking you into a cadger.
Jamontay Williams got seventy targets last year and they're receiving
him seventy. He was second on the team. Those are
going to be redistributed to between the running backs, the
(23:31):
tight end, whatever those are, those are going to be
those are going to go with the places.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Half of those targets, if not all of those targets
will go to Evan Ingram, because once again, I look
at it like baseball.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's spacing, right, It's space and pace.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And having those shallow underneath rocks.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
And just go back to watching any.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Film with Evan Ingram, whether he's was with the Giants
or he was with the Jaguars, how were they using
him a lot of those off the ball coming on
the knee in those shallow routes, freeing him up.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
To me, that's run after catch. Yeah, and that's what
he was between the between the twenty shallow route kind
of guy. They use him on the screen quite a bit.
I remember the year in Jacksonville when he had like
a hundred targets. There were so many screens to that
guy that year where they would try to get a
corner lined up out in front of him and then
they just run him over. But yeah, and I do
believe I'm with you on that Ingram is going to
(24:24):
eat into so much of Avante's you.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Know, targets as well. But R. J. Harvey and potentially JK.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Dobbins, who you know was visiting last night, was was
visiting the facility today. You know those those guys could
they're gonna get their fair share as well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Well. Once again, it's it's bad distribution because as a
defensive player, it makes a defensive coordinator think about how
he scheme me and you may change it up from
quarter to quarter. But if things go as well as
I'm hoping they go for the Broncos knock on wood, everyone's.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Healthy, then it's it's equal ball distribution.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's going to be a game where one guy may
get the bulk of the receptions.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The next next game it changes.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So it keeps the defense thinking, well, who is it
going to be this week? And more importantly, that's an
easy throw for a quarterback, you know, turn around five
yards in out, curl hook, whatever it is. And to me,
that's the world that Evan Ingram is going to eat
and live in.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And that's the ideal for the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I mean, you talked about spacing that that they didn't
have a tight end to help space everything out last year,
and so there were some things with with Sean Payton's
offense that were a little quirky that they didn't you know,
and they were trying to do other things to create
that we saw Mills get lined up in the backfield.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You know, we saw we saw several different things like that.
We don't see that any would never want to see
that again. I don't want to see that. You don't
ever line him up in the backfield ever. You can.
You can do a little bump pass if you put
him on a jet motion or something. You wanna do
a little bump pass. Get cute with it. Okay, fine,
don't line him up in the back.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Say that's the kind of equivalent to me watching Pat
Shermer saying Jerry Judy on on jet.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Sweeps every time.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's like Marvin Maham's skill set is best suited to
go vertical speed. It's like it's like if you if
you are coach Mike McDaniels down in Miami, and you
know you have Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill, are you using.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Them to run parallel to the line of the screen.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
We're pa deep crossers every play. Yes, I'm paying you
a significant amount of money, right. I don't want you
just running have gassers. I want you running full gasser
So we need you running vertical. And that's why I
want to see Marvin mamms another reason why I have
Marvin Mahms on my list as being wide.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Receiver number two. I'm with him.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yes, he tries to find all types of ways act
to deflect, throw people off the scent.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You guys gotta find find better. It wasn't this, I'll
tell you this. It was a British band. It was
a British band.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yep, okay, really pointing to one direction, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They're pointing in one direction that you're in the direction,
that you're wrong, pointing in one direction. Yeah, you'll never
guess it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It was a tiny British band.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That tiny British band, nobody ever heard of. Yeah, one direction,
not known for being giants, right, not very ensemble cast of.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm telling you, I'm actually I'm wrong on that because
like that, that one wouldn't be my favorite. I guess
Sole Decision would have probably been my favorite. You remember
the Faded? I bet that song's in the system.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Hmmm, I don't remember that one.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I mean, like all, if you're going all time
boy bands, I mean you probably have.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
To go with Sole decision.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, soul as in the soul, yes OUI I don't
think we have any.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Sould decision in the Sea ecided on YouTube. It's it's
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
There's I mean, there's quite a few out there that
I think fitted DISCRI mean you could call the Beatles
a boy band.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, you can, the Originals Origin just like you know.
I mean, I've heard an all time boy band would
probably be a new addition if we're being honest.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, But then, like Soule Decision, I liked that they
had a couple of songs that I liked. There was
the British Bland was called bb MAC. They were it
was like nineteen ninety nine. They had one song in.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
America that even charted.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, I was never a I was never a big
fan of the boy band overall, despite the fact that I,
you know, was in a singing group. I'm not gonna
call it a boy band. I can get you the
satisfaction A band of boys. Yes, No, and that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Sounds like that, that sounds like the weird that sounds
knockoff band of brothers.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yes, it sounds like someone's in the Conversion band and
you're not allowed to drive.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
That sounds all that's uh yeah uh.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They on the text line bit has sleeveless one direction shirts.
My favorite girl band is the Dixie Chicks. According to
the text line.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Hey listen, I like the chicks. See to me, it's
not the lack of sleaves that bother me. It's the
it's the cropped stomach that really that's collection.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yes, yeah, I mean well, look, if you got it,
you got to flow it, and if you don't got it,
you also got to flow it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, but you know what could be excellent, I guess
band of brothers, boy band or what have you want
to phrase it? It Broncos running back row. Yeah, they
definitely need that extra juice. Man.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
JK.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Dobbins is, by the way, text line Beach Boys, this
is the original boy band.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well done, okay, Frankie value the four seasons that comes
to the running back Room. I'm with you. JK.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Dobbins came in, had the you know, the thing around
the private workout and you know, meeting the people, physical,
all that kind of stuff left with other country.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That does not mean that JK. Dobbins is off the table.
Let me be emphatically clear.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Sure, because the same thing happened with Evan Ing, right,
And That's what I'm getting at is she's like, this
is not like the John elway days where you either
signed while you were here or there was nothing you
were done.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You know, uh, this is not like that. This, you
know this.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
They they tend to like, Okay, well you want to
go talk to the chargers, all right, I finger go
talk to the chargers. We'll be right here. And then
he came back and he did he which brings me
to another boy band aloys to men on bended knee.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
But you know what, listen, there's more to talk about,
an unpack with this whole JK. Dobbins thing, and maybe
why didn't go through today and why I can go
through moving forward?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We can get to that on the other side. Rockets
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