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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:20):
the seven o'clock hour, could chance to talk to her,
how she's recovering from her surgery and getting back to work,
all that good stuff. Naji Harris, I don't know if
you guys saw this one in the news. Was put
out there nause he charges. Running back Nauji Harris had
an eye injury after a fireworks mishap that was sustained
at a Fourth of July event. His agent, Doug Hendrickson

(00:41):
told uspns Autam schefter that the injury was superficial and
he expects to be ready for the upcoming season. But
the mishap resulted in injuries to several different attendees at
the event, and one person was hospitalized after he lost
multiple fingers in the incident, which occurred in Antioch, California.
The San Francisco Chronicle reporting there and citing a police report.

(01:05):
Harris's on a one year deal with the Chargers that
he signed back in March after playing in the Steelers before.
He'll share the backfield with Omrion Hampton there for the Chargers.
But another tell tale, don't mess with fireworks. We talked
about this. Jason Pierre Paul lost some fingers, you know,
a few years ago, became Jason Pierre Paul at that point,
and this is one of those things, man, you gotta

(01:26):
be careful abound fireworks. It's interesting every single.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Year there is somewhat of a story, whether it's someone
who is not a well known person in this case
is Najie Harris. Even though the story is being reported
as superficial wounds. Just think about how disastrous that could
have been, especially for Najie Harris's career and for the
Charges because they're going to rely on Marion Hampton and

(01:50):
Nijie Harris to get them where they need to go.
But it's always this time of year, you know, celebrating
the Fourth of July or Betty Yet when a team
wins a championship in any of the spoiling leagues. Sometimes
fans celebrate too much. Last year, at the beginning of
the year when the Dodgers won, right, a guy was

(02:13):
celebrating and it seemed as though he was a little intoxicated.
And I don't know what he was trying to light,
but whatever he was trying to light really went off
with the with the band because no, he lost a
couple of fingers, and I'm like, well, what what are
you lighting?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That is that powerful? And I know you last.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Last week you showed us sparklers sparkle bombs dangerous. What
entice is Individuals that go, well, I'm gonna light this
and I'm gonna hold this in my hand instead of
leaving it to the experts, the pirate who work in
the pyrotechnics.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, that's the thing. I don't
mess with fireworks much anymore. I mean, you know, I
just don't. But I mean, we're we're all idiots, were kids.
But I look back on that now and I probably
should have lost an eye or two a finger, you know,
things like that got away with it. Yeah, so I yeah,
they don't don't mess with that stuff, especially if you're
a you know, a professional athlete, wanted to let somebody
else like that darn't thing for you.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
What are you gonna?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
What are you doing? Okay?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
But you know, like some individuals want to be adventurous, right,
some guys jump out airplanes, whether they had parachutes for
it or not.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm not jumping out a plane.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I've had several individuals who tried to uh entice me
by you know, attacking my masculinity to get me.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
To jump out of the planes. I'm like, look, that
doesn't work on me. I'm good.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
If God made wanted a man to fly, he gave
his wings.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Well, okay, well you don't really fly. You just fall
at a slower rate of speed once the parachute opens.
So now you're like Icarus, right. I look, I'm just
saying I think everybody knows I'm jumped out, but I
mean it's you know, I think it's fun, but I
get it. There are things that I that other people
do that I wouldn't like. I would never go And
you jumping off a bridge. No, no, I've seen too
many of those videos. I'm just saying I've seen too many.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean most people want to go viral, but you
don't want to go viral for a moment like that. Right,
once again, I am not that adventurous. Let me tell
you how adventures I am. Put asparagus on my plate.
That's I'm not an adventure.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
That like asparagus. What is wrong with you? Gross silking one?
What hounds and no asparagus? Don't forget it? You know,
no furniture in your apartment. Man, I'm just saying, you
haven't lived until you saying yeah, it's just I haven't
lived until you have nothing. Well, I just yeah, I've

(04:40):
been there too. I thank you. That's one of those stories.
I don't know I have to ever tell that one
on the air. What story back when I was uh,
when I first I got thrown out of my house
back when I was a kid, you know all that
kind of stuff. I lived out of a storage shed.
You can't really do it much anymore. Wait, I'm sorry,
back at for a second.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Now, Now you issue with me in my miracle with
liver sandwiches.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
That's right, But now you got kicked out? Yeah, I
get that. You know my dad, I didn't get a
long grown up. He was kind of an abusive guy.
I think most people who know me well enough know that, yeah,
we didn't see eye to eye, and ultimately I, you know,
was kicked out of that. I didn't at that point
in time had the money to move into an apartment.
I was very very young, seventeen eighteen years old, and
so yeah, I rented a storage shed that was just

(05:24):
down the hill, like the military post, because I already
listed at that point. It was just down the hill
from the post, and so I rented a storage shed
down there. It was in the reserves at the time,
you know, go to college, and I rented it was
I don't know, forty five bucks a month I think
for the storage shed. But I went and got a
cot from out of army stores, put it in there,
put a little hot pot in there for you know,

(05:45):
for me stuff, well, Mikero wave all that, puttle TV
in there, and for about seven months lived out of
a storageshed. Well saved up you know, money to be
able to get my own place. Hey man, Look, I
went through likely with nothing. I had a gym membership.
I had a gym membership, so I can shower. I
go to the gym and a shower in the morning,
you know, work out in shower and then I you know,
just because as I didn't ever runny Water place.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Hey listen, man, I would through a lot of things
as a kid growing up in the inner city, no
money and some some combative issues with my parents.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Were never once.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Did I ever think or did they ever tell me,
ay man, go out.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Get out of get out of the house. No, that
that never happened.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Man, So more power to you for being able to
uh to push through.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
That all of those things. I mean, you got It's
just what gave me. I think it's a part of
early on in life, what gave me the ability that
you know, I can make it through anything doesn't matter,
if I can bounce back from anything. And you know, as
far as that goes, I mean, like right now, I've
been too lazy to We're making a joke and a
bit out of this about me not having furniture. It'scause
I've been too lazy to go get it. That's what
it is. But you know, it's just got like every
day I walk int this because its kind of funny,

(06:47):
I'm like, yeah, well I got to say, you know,
it's just it's a throwback to uh, to maybe the
more nostalgic throwback to a time that was actually very
difficult for me, you know, and to try to scrape
it together and make it on my own.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Hey, that's hey, big shout out to you. But I'm
glad that you were not player fire. Did you act
that because I know we talked about this last week.
Did you come back to watch the fireworks from the deck?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I actually didn't. I got better on it all weekend.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I was going to come out here and think we
got the grill right here, but yeah, I had the
pork chops ready. I just made him in the skillet.
I was gonna come out her on the deck and
watch the fireworks. I just ultimately didn't. It was hot
and I was lazy, and I was like, nah, I'm good.
We keep hearing that word, you know that, that l
word lazy. I mean, honestly, man, like my life at

(07:36):
this point in time, Like I work out and then
I just want to be lazy the rest of the time. Okay,
now you use lazy a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
What what would happen but with Benjamin L Bright if
you switched off lazy and because you.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Guys don't want me to run the world like, that's
what would ha Listen, No, we don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I think I think both brand and and and let
me put U do.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Not want that.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
You don't want me to start putting this to use
the way the world's going right now, Maybe it'll work.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'll run for something and accidentally win. Now's the time
I'll run for something and accidentally win. Yes, no better
time than the president.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
If you were to run for this, to say, political
office here in Denver, what would be one of those
offices that you know, Ben would say, Okay, you know what,
I think I could do the most work in this area.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't know I'd start off with like a state
rep or something like that. I mean, think about the
thinking about being you know, I think most people know
we have a buy camera legislature, which means representatives and
Senate right and and the terms are different if you're
at reps like like especially if you're a US you know,
House of Rep like you, two years is your term,
which means that once you win, you're already back fundraising.
I don't want to be doing that. I hate I

(08:52):
hate the idea of fundraising, and I don't think I
have the prestige to jump right into being a you know,
precion enough name, to jump right into trying to be
a senator. So you know, that's that's really what prevents
me from doing something like that. I was totally I
would only get involved in.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It seems like for you that you you need something
to challenge you every single day, right, That's what it
seemed like. That's what you need. So you may want
to go, like, you know, be a rocket scientist.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, I don't know. I mean, I don't think that's
my calling particularly, but I I mean there are things
that I could And yes, you're right, if you don't
ask Ryan, who knows me very very well, he would
tell you know, he'll tell you the same things like
then gets motivated when people telling me you can't do something,
and then he gets challenged, you know, and then he
gets you can't be a rocket scientist. I mean, yeah,
but I don't want to do this.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I could go be the new CEO or COO of
Twitter or acts.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, I get on that. I don't want to have
to constantly tell Elon to fixed rock because it's being racist.
Mecca Hitler, Yeah, oh the bot you see this. No,
they tweeked the they tweak the formula and the AI
and then it started making complimentary things about Hitler and stuff,
and I'm like, what do we what do guy got fired?
It was yeah, So this is.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
One of those examples of you know, technology is not
always great, right. The the idea is that technology moves our
life long. Right when we look at the game of sports,
especially football, technology is and enhance our viewing pleasure. At
the same time technology in the wrong hand, right, It
just kind of is.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So we've all seen the documentaries Terminator.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I believe it's called Yes, Yes, I tell maybe that
all the time when we talk about A.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I was like, look, I've seen sky Net, right, I
got Cyberdyne shirt. That's kind of Cyberne shirt.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
But everyone loves AI. I saw some my kids were
telling me something about chat.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
What is it chat? Yes? Are they trying to get
rid of that or something like that? No, I mean
that they're trying all these ais. They're all trying to
grow their AIS and be the you know, everybody wants
to win the AI war. Okay, so if.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You're a professor, because I know Georgia Tech had a
rule as far as tools don't want.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
It because they don't want you to sit there copying
the chatte papers. You can't tell anymore. You got actually,
don't copy and paste it because they can when you
paste it, like there's code behind you. Can you can tell? Well?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Two days ago someone on TikTok was trying to teach
kids how to remove everything from chat GPT. Yeah, and
I'm like, what happened to actually doing the research and
doing the work yourself?

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, imagine how dumb everyone is going to be twenty years.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
We're outsourcing intelligence because you know, to AI, you don't
have to remember anything anymore. You don't have to be
able to do the process for yourself because you have
these things to do it for you.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Once again opens the door disguise it because we have
smart phones.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, and what happens with what happens? They don't read
us anymore. Yes, get I'm a man, You get the matrix,
we're the batteries.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Okay, since we're not talking about sports at all, right now,
I have some questions about AI.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
What's fired up? Why is everyone?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Why are us as a human race so inclined to
push towards super intelligence?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Like what benefit are we receiving now?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
What the idea is that people don't want to do
anything anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You want life to be easier and more convenience. So
we creating things to do. And it started off with
creating a machine that would wash your dishes for you.
And now we've got things that'll do your math for you.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But what about what about those little cleanings that look
like the death star you put on your floor room?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yes, get the room, but I do have a room.
But I'm part of the problem. You are, yes, trivity
to your own demise. Great, I'm just saying there are
I had this conversation our friend Lee la Conway, who
used to work for for Ko over here. He and
I still do a YouTube show together with Christian Toto,
and you know, we were talking about that a couple

(12:38):
of shows ago about aid the Singularity and you do
some research on this. There are people that almost like
worship it. There are people that date it, try to
marry aisy are. They use these chat bots and they
fall in love with the chat bot. Like you can
google the stuff. It's all, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I saw a story the other day where a guy
tried to call off work because his girlfriend was sick. Yeah,
the company looked into it and they said, your girlfriend
is a chat bote, like you're gonna have come into work.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, there are, but there are people like there are
people that, Yeah, there are people that develop feelings for
these chat bots because they're so used to I mean,
we're so we were so behind the screen these days, right.
I read a study a couple of weeks ago that
sixty one percent of men aged twenty eight or younger
have never asked a woman out in person. That's terrible, god,

(13:24):
because it's everything behind the screen is they don't know
they don't even know how to they don't even know
how to walk up to a girl at a bar
and start a conversation because they just never had to
do it. Everything's behind the screen. Now you've got time
to like adjust your thoughts and that I'm just I mean,
it's serious. So what happens is you get these people
who are are so insulated and the only connection they
have is with somebody on the other side of the

(13:45):
screen that they do with this and the bot. These
algorithms are designed to make you feel good, I mean,
and not even the ones that are the chat ones
like I'm talking about like Twitter, Instagram, it's designed based
on what you do to try to keep you scrolling.
They're designed to make you feel good. So what that' said?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
We know everyone wants the We live in a microwave society.
Everyone wants everything right now, right away, right and we're
seeing the influx of technology once again enhancing our lives
but the sports we watch, But are are we going
to get to a point where we are actually eliminating
human content? Just like with the technology advancing with in

(14:22):
the NFL? Right, you got the chips and whatever what
happens to that chain game, even though it seems as
though those guys don't say a lot to be the
factor in a lot with with with the game itself.
So are we going to be so thirsty for technology
that we're going to remove all the human connection and
a lot of the things in the sports that we watch.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Let me take that a step further than you, all Right,
at what point does the human element of it become obsolete? Right? Like,
that's the part with when we were discussing this on
that the show was talking about at what point do
we need do we even need humans anymore? Because right now,
as it stands, you need human input and everything else.
What what happens when the AI gets to the point
where or it decides it no longer needs human input

(15:03):
for any of this, you know? And then and then
it's a competition for resources because these AI things, they're
huge energy drains, right, they use up tons of energy.
What what happens when you know, all of a sudden
we're competing for resources. The AI is competing with the
humans it's supposed to be serving, supplanting, whatever the case
may be. What happens when there's a competition for resource

(15:23):
in the ad to so, well, you know what, I
got a lot better off these uh, these little rodents
weren't here, These mammals weren't here eating up all the resources.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Bunch, we Hollywood keep showing us image after image and
the movies that they've given as terminator in I Roubot.
But once again, what happens AI? Now they're fishes? Will
they know the difference between rough and the past or not?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I mean do they? I don't know, that's what they
know right now? They know balls and strikes. But I mean,
I'm just saying, we gotta hit a break, brocos counry
night back after this, some people are trying to encourage
me to run for office. Now, thanks, guys on the
text line, may or all bright, common sense isn't common,
then you'd you'd suck as a state senator. Prove me wrong. Please.

(16:07):
They're trying to go with you into doing this thing. Hey,
I'm here to work on your campaign. You want to
hop on? I mean, where's the campaign financing coming from?

Speaker 4 (16:14):
You?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Guys expecting me to pay for this out of pocket? Yeah?
You got any more furniture to s Yeah? Right now?
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'd get into politics. I would,
but you know, this is what it is. Let's about
to the cars for the hotline and bring on our
good friend romy Bean Roby. How you doing you recovered? Okay?

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Oh, you know, slowly but surely getting there, trying to
avoid starting the season on the pop list, you know,
but I'd vote for.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You Ben also, well that's you know, that's not saying
much the alternatives I mean, being what they are. But
I do appreciate the vote of confidence.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Interesting stuff today we saw the report at Naji Harris
playing with fireworks. He's got a lie injury, but he's
gonna be fine for the Charger. But some of his friends,
blue blue fingers off apparently. How glad are we that
it appears the Broncos have made it throw it off
season without any scandal.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
You know, the fireworks thing is crazy because it's like,
have we not learned from Jason, Pierre Paul or so
many others. But but it's you know, like without fail
every year. I just that's you can't be stupid. But yeah,
like you said, it's always a good sign that nobody's
getting hurt nobody. Uh. I think Sean Payton runs a

(17:33):
very tight ship. These guys are very aware of that.
And you know, everybody falls in line because their body
is and so you're not seeing anything. And I think,
you know, big picture, it's a good group of guys,
which is always good. You don't feel like you don't
got to worry about these guys. Feels like Sean Payton
coll them that don't worry about these guys blowing any
fingers off, which is where you want to be at

(17:53):
this time here.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Well, but usually when you have big stars like Nikolee
Jokish and we just saw recently NBA free agency, teams
like to kind of get those guys under new deals,
especially when they know, hey, the guy's contract is going
to be coming up in two years. With nikola Jokis
saying he and his cam saying listen, they're not trying
to sign an extension at the end of the season,

(18:17):
does that signify something to the point that nikola Jokic
is asking the Nuggets to do more or do we
read into it and say, okay, well, he may look
to kind of let this contract run his course and
then he may look to take his talents.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Well, swall, don't I don't think Nikoliokic is looking to
take his his talent Elfwhare I don't think Nikolai Jokicic
is really interested. He's a guy that you could very
well see playing his NBA career with one team, you know,
and waiting to not sign the extension this year actually
makes a lot of sense. First and foremost, he stands

(18:53):
to make the eighty more million dollars, so that, in
its own right, that makes sense. And also if you wait,
you know, wait's an extra off season, you get an
extra year in Denver. You think about that, it puts
them to about thirty six years old, and realistically, at
that point that could be nincolocus and not Lebron James
not playing until he's forty. He could see out that

(19:15):
contract and move back to that compound he's building in
Serbia and call it a day. Like So for me,
it's I don't think it's anything to worry about. Really.
I think it's Nikolajokicic kind of will certainly be in
Denver in his prime. It's besides that, you know, next
off season, which I would imagine he would, and so
I think financially it makes sense for probably how he

(19:36):
sees the duration of his career going. It makes sense.
And the Nuggets were able to do so much with
getting money off their books this year that they don't
really need to worry about kind of that extra money
that that will eat up next year, that it actually
is nothing to worry about it. I feel like people
want to worry about it, but it actually makes plenty

(19:56):
logical sense for him to pass this offseason and not
find it, wait till next season, make the money, have
an next year, probably see out his career.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
What do we think of the additions that the Nuggets
have made? Did they do enough to push this team
back into contending for an NBA championship? And then you know,
the news today that Jonas is probably go stick around here,
you know, in Denver. How big is that in relation
to the moves that they've made.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I mean the moves were tremendous. I honestly went into
this offseason not expecting them to do much. They didn't
really have financial flexibility. I couldn't believe that they got
out from under Michael Porter Junior's contract. I mean, such
a win and such a statement for Ben Tender and
John Wallace to do that and pull that off. Find
a team that was willing to take that on and
for half the price, get a guy that is an

(20:46):
upgrade defensively and offensively. I mean, maybe not as sharp
of a shooter as Michael Porter Junior, but everybody's game
gets elevated around Nicole Yoki, Kim Johnson arguably better you know,
off ball production. So he is a perfect fit again
per half the price. Bruce Brown, I know fans are
so excited about, but really he's that do it all

(21:06):
forward and Kim Hardaway Junior. You look at what they
finally did the bench. You can actually let the starter rest.
My goodness, the bench has really been the Nuggets biggest
ailment for at forever, and they finally have a unit
where you actually feel like, oh, you can consistently rest
the starters now and so they're not just dog tired

(21:27):
when the postseason comes around, and that's where Valentinas comes in.
It's such a huge addition. This is the first time
since probably Mason Plumbley does the Nuggets have an actual
backup center to take a load off Nikoliok. They can
get his minutes down to thirty five thirty three at night.
I mean, that's just absolutely massive, and Valentina just would

(21:48):
fit in so well. He's big, he's big bodied, and
he can really run that second unit so well, and
most importantly, they can actually manage to Coolioks's minutes. It
felt like this was such a kind of l in
the room until whether or not he was going to
stay or not. And the fact that he is. You
look at this unit and Denver's absolutely back in a
position where they can contend now. Because I think the

(22:10):
biggest thing with the Nuggets, the starting corps Jokic, Jamal Murray,
Aaron gordony're getting older and you cannot play them the
amount of minutes that you've been playing them the past
few years. Finally you have the reserve, you have the
backups to give them that rest, and you got a bench.
The Nuggets absolutely as we saw it there Aus in
Vegas go up, are back in a place where they

(22:31):
can compete for a championship.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
So Rowie, we had that stage of the year where
it is NFL offseason and everyone's anticipating, you know, training camp.
But in that time period there's a lot of lists
that comes out, and one of those lists is I
guess you can call it a highly anticipated NFL Top
one hundred. Zach Allen is listed at number ninety. Is
that fair or did they not evaluate him properly?

Speaker 4 (22:57):
You know, it's funny. We were having a separate discuss
in my sports office about who we felt like was
the most overrated and underrated Broncos just on the Broncos,
and I said, Zach Allen. This was a few months ago.
I feel like Zach Allen is underrated. What he does,
it's and I think that that that kind of shows
on that left.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Look.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I think it's his first time, it's making a debuts,
a great honor to be in the top one hundred,
but I think he could have been higher. I absolutely
do I think Zach Allen is a massive piece of
that defense. It's a massive reason why Nick Bonito and
Jonathan Cooper have so much success. I mean, you know this, right,
The guy at the middle makes pressure, makes life a
lot easier for the outside guys, and the outside guys

(23:37):
get a lot more glory. So it's that position that
maybe doesn't unless you're Aaron Donald, not as many people
are giving you as much credit. But I do think
he should have been higher on that list. His production
is massive, the pressure he puts on quarterbacks is massive.
He's such been such an unbelievable addition. And especially you
look at the addressers, they're still pretty young. Zach Allen's

(23:59):
pretty young too, but really feels like a leader in
a lot of ways there with his play and kind
of with his mentality as well. So I do think
he should have been higher because I think he's just underrated.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
As a whole.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
So yeah, but I also think he's just going to
have an even better season. And these Broncos, you know,
you guys, we keep talking about, like people have expectations
for the Broncos this year, how are they going to
handle it? So things like this aren't so bad they
still then look at it and feel they'd be a
little underrated.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, on that note, and we're talking with Robby Bean
from CBS four. On that note, if there is expectation,
then that expectation precludes results, right if we don't if
this Broncos team comes away with, what record are we
not satisfied with the What is the highest number of
wins that we are not okay with this team achieving
this year?

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I mean, you know, that's an interesting question because I've
more looked at it as absolutely playoffs have to be
on the table. You gott in the playoff last year,
if you don't get him this year, then it's then
it's an unsuccess full season. Number of wins is number
one takes you to get into the playoffs, I suppose,
But if you want to build on it should be
more than last year. You look at this schedule, I mean,

(25:11):
I think there's an easy ten to eleven wins in there,
and then you know, some go your way, some don't
go your way. You could go a couple higher, suppose
you could drop a couple lower. But do feel like
they should hit double digit wins. It feels like this
team is capable of it going in year two. Bonnix.
In year two, you've added these pieces in the secondary,
You've added these pieces offensively around bon NICKX, and bon

(25:32):
Nix is expected to elevate in year two. So I
think playoffs for me is the standard getting you know,
getting in and maybe getting around further. But the number wins,
I'll go ten.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, well, speaking of standard, that the standard for the
Rockies hasn't really been what most fans had hope the
season would be for the Rockies.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
But there's one guy going to the All Star Game,
and that's Catcher. Hunts of good men. Now, how good
has he.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Been and being somewhat of a beacon of hope for
Rockies fans.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I mean, what a silver lining he has been this
entire season. I had the pleasure actually of having Hunter
on my show a few weeks ago, and I just
you know, Catcher is one of those positions, like not
all positions are created equal. It's just like you got
to do all the dirty work. You're like the blocking
tight end, you know, getting out of the glory. But
to do that position, which is such a grind down

(26:28):
position both physically and mentally. He was talking about how
much more he has to do prep work day to
day where you're studying film on every single player, where
you're working with your catcher or working with your pitcher
and getting used to what they want and how they
feel and everyone in the bullpen too, And he was saying,
it's so different than what you do as a position player.

(26:49):
So he's got so much more on his plate this year,
his first full year as the catcher in the big
and yet he's been the best he's been at the
plate as well. And asked him, like, what does that contribute?
How does that work? You know, you're exhausted for being
a catcher, and he said that that's actually the antidote
to overthinking is at bats, because if he has a

(27:10):
bad one, if he just has to let it go
because he's got to go back to being a catcher.
And if he's thinking about crappy at bats, he's gonna,
you know, he's going to mess up the game and
he's gonna he's going to be a bad catcher. And
so it's actually helped him to be a better hitter,
which is I thought was just really interesting and fascinating.
How he gets up to the plate and it's kind
of like he's just he's just relaxed every time he's

(27:32):
up there because he's more focused at what he's doing
behind the plate, which was really cool, and he really
has been a shining light in what has been a
very dull season that he has.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Talked with Roby Bean from CBS speaking of the dull season,
I mean, the Rockies have set a new bar for
futility at twenty one and seventy two thus far. The
White Sox were ethically bad last year one forty something games.
Do we think the Rockies can get to the forty
win more? They need to win nineteen games. They're already
twenty one and seventy two. You've already knocked off ninety

(28:03):
three games in one hundred and sixty two game season.
Can they win twenty more games in that span and
get to get passed with the White Sox set last year?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I mean, it feels unfathomable to be like, no, they
can't get there. But really, with this team, it's like
every night the game, the game is close for a
second and then it's just the past two nights they
played the Red Sox, they were close for a second.
In a blink of an eye. You lose ten to
two nights in a row. It doesn't matter what it is.
If something's going right, if offense is going right, pitching bad,

(28:33):
if pitching is good. Defensively they're poor, like they just
there has been so few games this entire season where
all three fashts of the game are in unison and
are working well. And it's hard to have confidence that
you'll see that at any point this season. It's hard
to wrap your head around how bad this team is.
I mean, it's we're just watching history in the worst

(28:56):
kind of a way. I think the unfortunate thing about
the Rockies is that, well, we know Walker Momfort will
come in. We'll see what changes he makes and and
you know, hopefully he really goes outside and honestly fires
a lot of people and brings in a lot of
new people. But this system is so broken down to
the minor league system. It's not just one fix. It's
going to fix this Rockies. This is going to take

(29:17):
a very long time. But the one thing that you
can help for is that when Walker takes over that
that we see some real changes. Big mate, that Belle
Schmitt walks out the door at that scouting team walks out.
You got to you got to send everybody out the door.
You got to bring in outside voices. And I think
I guess we should have hoped that that that that

(29:38):
will happen. But that's your first place to start. But
it is a checklist longer than a CVS receipt of
things that has to be fixed for the Rockies to
be even respectful.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Okay, romy really quickly, just get I know, there's a
laundry list of things that CBS receipt is as long
as hell. Well, let's just say the Rockies organization open
it up to the fans and ask them, hey, listen,
what could we do on your recommendation that could possibly
change the direction of the course of this organization. And

(30:09):
if you were asked that question, if you could do
just of the many things that you want to do,
what would be the first thing that you would do?

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Hire an outside GM. I mean, you know, the one
thing with Dick Momford and he'll admit it, he is
loyal to a fault. And when they promoted Bill Schmidt
to GM, I immediately said, okay, the team's going. I mean,
it was just such a deflating feeling that you said, really,
they brought in a guy that's been with the team
since the nineties. What's going to change nothing. They have

(30:37):
to bring in an outside mind, clean's house and completely
changes you know. Unfortunately, loyalty and sports killed you. It's
a sad thing to say, and it's a sad thing
to or I guess you know, stay of affairs, but
it is what it is, and so you got to
bring in an outside GM, a brand new fresh of ies.
You simply cannot keep doing what you've been doing because

(30:58):
it's not only has it not been working, it's been
not working in a historically bad way.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Romy We appreciate your time as always, wish you continued
speedy recovery, and we'll be watching and we'll see you
out of camp. Ah.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
You guys are the best.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Take care yep. Robby Bean from CBS four, we got
hit a break. Can we come back? We needed some
things Coach Prime said about college football that I've been
talking about for a while. I agree with him on
This is Rockles Country Night. Kawe
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