07-14-25 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight with Parker Gabriel

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I teased it before we went to break and if

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you guys saw this, that Teddy Bridgewater is suspended from
Miami Northwestern for allegedly giving impermissible benefits to his high
school football players. Former NFL quarterback turn high school football
coach Teddy Bridgewater suspended from Miami Northwestern, he revealed in
a Facebook post on Sunday. Bridgewater confirmed the suspension, said

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he was committed to staying with Miami Northwestern even though
the team suspended him.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Say quote, the suspension.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Came from MNW and it's impossible to suspend someone who
doesn't work for you. So if I'm suspended, I'm free
to go to another school of my choice, but I'm
not going anywhere. If it comes down to it, I
will volunteer from the bleachers like I used to in
twenty eighteen twenty nineteen when no one.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Had a problem.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
The suspension may stem from a post Bridgewater put on
Facebook back on July seventh, and in the post, he
revealed he covered uber Ride's meals recovery services for players
last season, asked fans to donate and cover those expenses
this year, so it would have come directly from his pocket,
and that drew the attention of Florida High School Athletic
Association and official with FHSAA excuse me, Calvin Richardson told

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rivals that those allegations were sent to Miami Northwestern and
that they were working to gain more information. HSAA has
come down on other schools for similar violations, saying there's
recent precedent for punishing programs for players receiving free meals
and Uber ride. Last fall, several players at the First
Academy were found and received impermissible benefits, including a free
Uber ride, and HSAA hit the Royals with a two

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year postseason ban a thirty six thousand dollars fine. It's
unclear whether Miami Northwestern will receive additional punishments. Prior to
coaching at Miami Northwestern, his alma mater, Bridgewater spent ten
seasons in the NFL. Originally joined the league as a
first rounder with the Minnesota Vikings, made the Pro Bowl
at a second season, suffered that dislocated knee that.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Tore multiple leaguements.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Returned in twenty seventeen, spent most of the time as
a backup for the rest of his career. Outside of
the starting stint, he had with the Denver Broncos. Following
the twenty twenty three season, he retired to coach Miami Northwestern,
the team to a state championship in his first year,
and then unretired to to join the Detroit Lions late
last season and served as Golf's backup, although he did
not appear in a regular season game. I don't know

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about this man. He's a volunteer in providing this stuff.
I don't know if there's any I don't know. I mean,
it's a fine line. I sort of get it with
the improvissible benefit thing. But shouldn't we be lauding people
that are investing back into the community. Shouldn't we be
celebrating the fact that this dude is investing money back
into the community at the high school level to help
these guys out.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah you should. As a guy that is from the.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Miami area and my mom still lives and around the
locally everywhere Northwestern is located, Yeah you should.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Because here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
When athletes don't give back to their communities, you criticize
and ostracized for it. And if Teddy is not an
employee of the public school system.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
We're a volunteer if he's volunteering.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
To me, he's no different than being part of the
booster program as an alumni, providing his own or using
his own funds.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
To help out the kids, which.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Teddy did take when he first made this known that
he was helping out with food and uber rides to
get kids to and from, you know, practice to home safely.
To me, that one thing you got to command a
guy you know for that and taking some kind of
investment into the players. But you're not getting that from
the school, right, The school is not helping.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
You're using your own money.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And Teddy was being criticized for that on social media, saying, Okay, well,
here's a guy that made a boatload of money as
an NFL quarterback and now he's asking people within the
community to donate money to help out the program.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Right, you can't use all your money. Yeah, I mean,
you can't use all your money for this. The problem
here is that he's.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
The head coach of the football team, even though he's
a volunteer, and so that's that's the thing becomes accused of,
you know, recruiting kids, are allowing kids in there and spending.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
The money on it. But at the same time, you're getting.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Guys who can't afford it meals guys who are practicing.
Let's say you're practicing after school. You know, some of
these kids can't afford their mom, you know, to come
pick them up, or they don't have a riose.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
They don't get the boss how they're getting home.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
And so Teddy Bridgewater is getting them, getting to move
a riots.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
To get them home so they can study you and.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Do all this stuff instead of having to walk however
many miles at his home.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Or it's easy for someone to sit behind the computer
and say whatever they want to say about Teddy, But
growing up in that environment, to me, knowing as though
you're coming home late after practice in that area, right,
to me, that's problematic. And there's so many things that

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can happen to a young kid, young African American kid
in that particular area. But to make sure that those
players who are committing time in their bodies to the
high school institution, whatever they whatever support they're playing, to
make sure that they get home, I think that's vital.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's important. But it speaks to a point where, well.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
You don't have a large budget in high school to
help these kids out. They want to play the sport
because they love it well, they know it's an opportunity
that could provide them a.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Way out of the inner city.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
So while some are going to say speak negatively about this,
as a guy that grew up in that area, we
didn't grow up with a lot of money. There was
a struggle for my mom trying to get to it
from practice, trying to eat before games. I'm gonna applau
Teddy for using his own money to try to help
out his alma minter Oh.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
By the way, he helped them.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Win a state championship that they hadn't won and since
twenty nineteen, I believe Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I look, here's and here's the workaround. If Teddy had
just donated that money to the Booster Club and then
the Booster Club paid for it, then there wouldn't have
even been an issue, right because he wasn't He's a volunteer,
he's not an employee.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
So that that's that's the work around, that's the loophole.
That's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
But just just for future reference, if you're listening, meet
me over here at Kenra two if.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
You need if you need to work right now. Three
three two, let me work around out here the whole king.
But at the same time, like that's what this is.
I mean, investigative.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Schools are having enough trouble trying to finance everything around
schools anyway, they don't have the money to be doing
this kind of stuff, and these kids are being put
in situations where you know, hey, you know, after school
they got practice and.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
All this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And then as you said, like you don't want to
walk through that neighborhood, you don't want to walk there
from that's time taking away. Yeah, I mean, I know
what you know, but you know what I mean, like
some people don't can't conceptualize Hey, oh, by the way,
how many mile walk is this? You know that this
kid's going to be missing this amount of time that
he could be studying at home, doing his homework that
he's got to do to keep his grades, would be
eligible to play.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
To begin with.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, man, the just speaks volumes to where high school
athletics are at certain schools who don't have the means
to get the kids the proper things that they need
to go out there and compete. And I know, you know,
some would say, well, this is kind of an infringement
on the integrity of amateur sports.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
But this is where we are.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, we got nil deals in college football, deals
in high school. Okay, well, well once again, put more
money in some of these programs. And also too, I mean,
you can ask the people in certain neighborhoods to donate,
they could donate what they can. But I know where
Northwestern is, right, I know the environment. I know what

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happens in or around that area. It hasn't changed since
I was a team.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
So I was like, Okay, can we do something to
pour into these schools because the idea is that we're
trying to help these kids become the best people they can.
And sometimes as coach, you may see a kid struggling, right,
And I have heard stories about a kid struggling at home,

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not being able to pay their light bill or provide food.
And now you've been asked to go to practice in
the heat. Someone go help that kid financially, That's all
I'll say. Someone to help that kid financially, and him
and his family were better off for that.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
So I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I don't think we will have all the answers, and
there's not an easy way to handle this. But it's
hard to watch as a coach, as a kid that
you're trying to mentor as a kid watch their family.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
As hard as a human being to watch other people suffer,
unless you're a sociopath.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
You just watching it, you know, watching it. There's and
I get this all the time.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
This is one that really bugs the you know what,
It almost cussed on the air. This one bugs the
mess out of me. Right, is people, if you went
through stuff, right, let's say you went through stuff coming
up and you look back, you see this next generation
coming up, and you want them to go through the
exact same ste hardships just because you did, and you
talk about how you went through it and you made
it out fine, you didn't make it out fine, you

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should want we want to make things better for the
generation behind us. Right, So when you see another human
being out there suffering, whether or not they're they're able
to afford a meal, you know, or they're going to walk,
you know, three four miles home, you know after a
big sweaty practice and all that kind of stuff, and
that cuts into family time and study time and all
that kind of stuff, and you just want to make

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life I just don't understand the mindset of anyone who
doesn't want to make life better for the people behind them.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Here's what I would say is it's almost like college sports.
If you want to put a cap on it, well,
you can only spend.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Next amount of dollars one person a booster, right, or
you can student there you go.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
If you were able to do that, you are making
sure no one breaks throughs. But you're also making sure
that these players are looked after, because that's that's what
your job is as a superintendent, as a principal, to
make sure that academically they have what they need to
but athletically they have the same thing as well.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I've told this before, Like, you're not allowed to buy
meals for kids, right, so don't buy pizzas for the
coaching staff and the kids.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Happened to grabis life, who's the man? You know how
that's going to work? That's the loop. Well, well, we
purchased for the coach.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
But kid A had some so basically you contributed to
the kid, but you were not supposed to.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well who's well, that's what they said. I'm just saying.
If you want to work around.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I mean, man, I look, I order ten pizzas for
me because I was hungry.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
The kids just happened as the kids just happened to
the left, happened to leave the cafeterias.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
They just, you know, they just I don't know what happened, righty,
Like they just happened to They just happen to grab
as lives. Ay my bad, you know, I'm just they're
work arrested. But I I it bothers me. That attitude
bothers me.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
And athletics like we is such a money trap on
multiple fronts now that it's the Wild West with all
these nil deals and everything else at the collegiate level whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
But there is no part of me that is ever
going to look at.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
A situation and not air on the side of compassion
for a kid that's struggling. I think there's there's no
there's no scenario on which I'm looking at this kid
going hungry or I'm gonna get a fine for buying
them a meal. I'm gonna take the fine for buying
them a meal because a kid going hungry is wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, So here's a double ed sworts or the flip
side of it.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
So you this is say the affluent schools are now saying,
wait a minute, so now this school, because they don't
have the resources, they're able to spend a certain amount
of money, But what about.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Us, do we get your kids starving?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
You got a kid over there starving at the affluent school.
That sounds like that sounds like a whole different kind
of problem to me.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
It is, but but still that's going to be the
argument why the rules are going to be different for
these individuals.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Than there are for a got to be different. If
a kid's starving and buying them a meal, there you go. Look,
we can find common sense solutions for this.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I am with you, because even at some affluent schools,
you still have some families who are food deprived because
they're spending all their money.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Away their scholarship policies exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
So I think this is where everyone needs to take
a deep breath, look at the situation with Teddy Bridgewold,
and just look at the landscape of high school sports
and say, well, if we see a needy kid, we
should have the ability to help them as long as
we report it how much we're helping, what we're doing
right for whatever tax purposes or whatever. But or better yet,

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go out and solicit some sponsors so you don't have
to do that.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Like the local dominoes, you know, hey, you know, we'll
put your name up on the scoreboard. You're bringing pizzas,
but by the locker room every you know that kind
of thing. You just happen to bring free pizzas. Whoever
gets a slice gets a slice. I don't see how
that's an impermissible benefit. They're a sponsor of the stage.
They got to dame up on the scoreboard.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, and then work on something with the local Pigley
Wiggly where you get the athlete of the week, they
come down there, you get them one hundred dollars food gouts.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Here and you you know, the athlete of the week
just happens to be the one that happens to meet
the two I'm not exactly you're I'm familiar with the
frozen you know, the paper of the half. Yeah, like
one hundred people right now to know exactly what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
If you and I could have this conversation about way
used to do it, How is it that in public schools.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
They can't figure.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
This out, right, Yeah, I don't know, And I just
got a text message it's it's pissed me off.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Seven to old, missed me with this.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
PS.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
These kids are pampered beyond necessary. You ought to be
ashamed of yourselves. No, they all aren't. There are instances
where that is the case, but there are instances where
it's not the case. And I would suggest, if you
don't know what you're talking about, don't text me and
say that you do, because I know you don't know
what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, I'm saying that person definitely did not grow up
in any city of Miami like ideas.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's what I'm saying, Like if they didn't grow up
in rural Arkansas, Like I'm telling you, man, kids like that.
There are instances where these kids are starving, right, and
they're doing this because it's their one shot to elevate
their family. It's it's generational wealth to get them all. Yes,
Like you know I've been around that, Nick, You've been
around that. You lived here, Like I'm just saying, like, no,

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this is is not the case.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
There are kids that are pampered.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
There are kids that get into college and at these
multimillion dollars and we saw, you know, like schadeor came
up because his dad was wealthy.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
All right, wait, but that's not everybody beginning to think
about it though before his dad found wealth, there was
a different life. His his mother had to work multiple jobs. Yeah,
to provide for coach Prime, Right, like.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You're there one, there're one generation away from being that.
But I mean, did we see shoot or Sanders and
so that, then they start applying that to the whole
That's not everybody.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's not man, it's not everybody's story.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm gonna say that person that text to do this
well and they follow it up with only for.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Athletes will get a grip. No, I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Only for athletes. His story is about athletes. There are
kids that are starving in those schools that aren't athletes.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Because once again, what if the coach he's coaching.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Baseball, but he knows that there's another kid who's a
friend of one of his baseball players who are struggling,
and he gives money or something to that person who
buys some something to eat. Now is that an issue
because even though that kid doesn't play the sport. Now,
you've purchased a meal for someone. But to me, I
think that is not to go full of religion on you.

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But that's the God way that I know.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You help someone. Look, I'll give you a story real quick.
Can we gotta hit a break, but I'll give you
started real quick. Like but I most people, I don't
know if you most people listen, but some people listen
know that that I taught high school first semester, you know,
before I went to Iraq. Right, So I had one
semester of teaching in high school. I had a kid
that his I mean, his parents were never around. They

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were on math, they were never around. There was never
enough food, and this kid was taking care of three
younger siblings. And so on Friday nights, I would order
myself at three o'clock, I'd order myself a pizza and
eat a slice and I'd beat and I'm doing air
quotes here in the studio, too full to eat the
rest of the pizza and send it home with him,
because I knew it wasn't with food they were getting
that weekend, right, So like, yeah, I get it, I

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get it that there's more than just athletes. This wasn't
an athlete. These was just students and those kinds of things.
We got bigger problems within the context of wealth disparity
in America. Kids starve and all that kind of stuff.
We have bigger problems. But right now, what I'm specifically
talking about in this particular situation is an athlete that
was putting money back in the community to save kids
from starving.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
And we're sitting here trying to nitpick it is the
wrong answer, guys. We should be applauding people that.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Are putting themselves back into the community and trying to
make things better. We got to hit a break Broncos
Country night back after this, someone nine chiming, you know,
conversation we just had. So I went to a small
town school in the seventies where kids were hungry, not
any chance to go into the pros, but the family
could afford to give the meals or rides. So it's
not just the great athletes. Are looking at the everyday athlete,
the every day kid at school.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And that's what I was getting at. It's like, if.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
We're not sitting here with the attitude that we want
to make things better for the people behind us, then
to me, that's you know that's a red flag for
being a sociopath. I just can't understand not wanting to to,
you know, to help people.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Who are suffering. But what do I know.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I'm just some guy to the KWA Kommas spell hotline
to bring on a guy who's not suffering, or maybe
he is suffering to get into a training camp. Parker
Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel, Never post Parker, how you do, buddy.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I'm doing great. Yeah, it's a like a week from
the day. Basically we we sort of start down the
road board the aircraft carrier. As Sean Payton might say,
I mean, I'd take two or three if it were
on the table. So maybe maybe you're getting that like
pre camp suffering over the next few days.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Here we're wrapping up to it, obviously on the eve
next week of starting off, kicking off that fairly hectic
work schedule. I think for most of us, I know
everybody at home is boohooing all of that, but still, yeah, yeah,
you know, you guys gotta go go go cover football
while I'm roof of a house in the dead of August.
As we look at this, though, I think the main

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thing that people are jittery about right now is the
fact that Jade Baron and RJ.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Harvey are unsigned.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Baron, I have no concerns about that should be done
fairly soon. Harvey is the one that's the question mark
because agents and players have decided that they want to
start the president of making sure that second round rookies
contracts are guaranteed, and thirty of thirty two second round
draft picks are holding out for that right now, Argie
Harvey being one of them.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
What do you see as the end result of this situation.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, I think, I mean, it'll be interesting to see
if the players can get a bump.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I just I guess I'd be really surprised having you know,
I haven't covered the NFL for that long, but just
knowing the way sort of like labor versus team negotiations
and and sort of you know, the spans the players
have taken and gone in the past. Like, Look, it'd
be great, I mean to me, at least, it'd be
great if they all got guarantee contracts.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I don't think you'll see all the second round guys
get it. Maybe a few more than than normal, maybe
if you're the sixtieth pick like R. J. Harvey, like
maybe you're getting a little bit more guaranteed than than
you did in the past. But you know that this stuff, uh,
it's hard for the players to win these battles. Even
this is like a you know, maybe not to the

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second rounders involved, but like grand team, it's like a
pretty it's a pretty small, uh, you know, piece of
the puzzle when you're talking about overall contract value and
and and and you know, guarantees and all that. So
you know, I mean, the players they have every right
to do this. We'll see how much of a dent
they can make. And then it's the sort of interesting

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for a guy like Harvey who's at the end of
the round to know, like what is the right time
to jump in and sign. So give me very interesting
to see, you know, sort of how long the drags.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Out, oh Parker.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Usually in this game, you know, players sometimes fly under
the radar and they are high contributors, but they don't
really get the validation they deserve. And there's two guys
that stick out to me definitely on the Broncos defense,
Zach Allen and Malcolm Roach. I mean, why do you
think that these two players is somewhat overlooked when individuals

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talk about the Denver Broncos team as a whole, but
more importantly their defense.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah. You know what's funny about that, Nick, is I
agree with you on those two guys in particular. We
just had like a position preview thing run I think
in the post today about the defensive line, and we're
under the radar player I took down Franklin Myers, and
so maybe you can just say that about any of
the guys. I mean, some of that is some of
that is Linus scrimmage. Guys, you know, very rarely get

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their full due in terms of the true impact they have.
I think when you're talking about Roach, you know, the
primary function being playing against the run. I mean, that's
about as unsexy as it gets, you know, but but
it's obviously of critical importance. Dak Allen, I think started
to get his due this last year with how well

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he played and sort of the numbers that he put
up and the way next Gen Stass can kind of
like highlight that and all that. Frank what Myers to
me was like the guy that sort of turned the
tide on the whole thing. Up front for them. I
mean pairing him with Zach Allen. Not only is he
a good player who generates, you know, consistent pressure, but
then he freed freed up Zach Allen a lot, and

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so like to me, like Roach obviously had a huge
impact on the defense too.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
I thought JFM was sort of like the addition.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
That stirred the drink last year in terms of the
pass rush. And so all those guys matter. They probably
can't all get paid long term, but yeah, I mean,
I think each of them, in their own way maybe
fly with it under the radar.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Ty with Parker Gabriel of the Denver Post, the jetson
wide receiver Garrett Wilson reached an agreement only four year,
one hundred and thirty million dollar contract extension ninety million guaranteed.
That Yeah, that is the first time in NFL history,
by the way, our receivers has received an average of
over thirty one million per year. After playing only three seasons,

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Wilson now at a contract for the next six seasons
through twenty thirty. That's that's sort of the irrelevant part
of all this. What I wanted to ask you is
there has been some optimism lately through the usual channels
that perhaps the Broncos and Courtland Sutton would get something done.
Do you share in that optimism and looking at this number,

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does this move the needle at all in terms of
what Courtland Sutton should be receiving from the Denver Broncos
if he were to be extended.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Yeah, both good questions.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
I mean, you know, it's kind of interesting. Like in
the spring there, like Sudden and his camp, there's a
lot of optimism that a deal was coming and me
he told me in late April, like, oh yeah, just
before the draft. Yeah, I think it's all headed in
a good direction obviously, Like there wasn't a lot of
there was no movement on actually getting an extension done
or extensions for any of the guys done through the

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the you know.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Offseason program.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Usually all that stuff goes quiet this time of year
until until just about the time camp starts or right about.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Now actually, and so yeah, I mean, listen.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I can tell something's done. There's always that little thing
in the back of your mind that goes like, is
it gonna get done? As for like Garrett Wilson, I
don't know, I saw some people today. There's some reporting
like sort of suggesting that of course Washington didn't think
it affected their negotiations with Terry McLaurin, just because Wilson's
so much younger, and you don't, you know, he's played

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three years and all of that, and like generally speaking,
I think that's that's probably where it's at with with
Court too. I mean, I think you'd have a hard
time if you're Sutton people saying like, well, look at
Garret Wilson, who's what, you know, twenty four years old,
twenty five years old, Look what he got, especially when
having only played three years.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
You know, you're really.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Talking about You're not that aav.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Is in is in the future, right. I mean, obviously
he's going to get the cash up front. That's why
you do a deal like that this early in the process.
But like, in reality, the big cap numbers are a
long way away, and so like, I don't I'm not
sure it has a material impact on whether Sutton and
the Broncos get to a deal, but whether Ston and
the Broncos get to a deal definitely, I think is

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something to watch over the next you know, week, ten
days until the Veterans report, and then obviously through camp
if there's not something done.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
So with that being saying, with the talk being about
coldand Sun right now, I know, I think over the
weekend that coldon Sun participated in some kind of wide
receiver camp I guess put together by Chad Johnson. It
seemed like everyone hasn't had camps like Bone Miller, the
pass rushing camp, you get the tight end camp. With
that being said, how do you think hang out with

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Chad Johnson learning whatever Chad can teach him would actually
help Courtland improve as a receiver coming into this season.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I mean, I guess you're always learning, right like that.
That's the main thing is you're always you know, like
I talked to Zach Allen actually about sort of VT Jordan,
who is you know, consults for the Broncos and is
a pass rush specialist type of guy. BT Jordan has
a past pass rush summit in Texas each summer, which
sort of goes to your point that it feels like
every position group has one of these. Now, some of

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it I think is that guys like it's it's not
that fun to work out on your own all off season,
and all of these guys have money, so like it's
kind of fun, I think, to get together and and
but one of the things that Zach Allen said was
Zach like, I watch everybody. I like taking things from everybody,
and I like talking shop. And so when you get
all of you guys together, invariably, like he's like, I

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get to ask text Lawrence how he does this, and
I get to ask, you know, another guy how he
does this. And I like this and I want to
steal that. And so when you get you know, Osho
Sinco and Courtland and a bunch of other receivers together
like invariably, there's just sort of you know, there's there's
tips and tricks and different ways.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Of talking about things.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
And you know, before Kerry Colbert, I think Courtland Sutton's
only coach in the NFL with Zakazani. And so then
you've got your trainer. So there's like actually maybe a
relatively small pool of voices that you hear for the
most part. So it's kind of cool for a few
days to go hear a bunch of other voices. Maybe
something clicks, maybe you learn something, maybe you pick up

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a trick or something along the way, And so I
think that's like guys of all positions and all stripes,
kind of like going to these things in the offseason.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Talk with Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter.
With R J. Harvey holding out for that fully guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Deal as a draft pick, all eyes on JK Dobbins
signed in free agency, what kind of role do we
think JK.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Dobbins has in this offense?

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah, I mean I think, I mean, at this point,
I suppose he'd be a little surprised if he wasn't,
you know, option A from the start. I mean they
they think he's got three down ability now. You know, obviously,
given an injury history, you'd like to be able to,
you know, have him be sort of like the guy
that helps you get off to a fast start, but
also a guy who you can manage workload for throughout

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the year. RJ. Harvey's probably like the best candidate to
help him do that. You know. Obviously we'll see if
he misses time or how much or whatever.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
And so I think you'll see Dobbins be I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Know, I mean, he's earned, He's earned a lot in
his career, so I don't want this.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
To be taken there like sort of like the de
facto top guy, I guess to.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Start, and then you fill in around him a little bit,
I think I wrote a while back, like I think
the more interesting question is, you know what it looks
like in week fourteen rather than you know, preseason week two.
But for now, he's a veteran guy, He's had a
lot of production and you know, you can throw them
ball obviously as explosive as the runner, and he's a

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pretty good pass protector too.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Well.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Obviously training camp is around the corner. Things are gonna
look a little different, especially with all the construction going
on at the Broncos headquarters. I mean, you've been to
a lot of these training camps. I mean, what more
you looking forward to as we go out there, considering
the fact that it's probsibly going to be less fans

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at practice than in years past.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, I mean I think, like obviously it's gonna be
a little bit of a different setup this year. Like
i'd imagine, you know, we're out there quite a bit obviously,
or a few days at least through through Oka's and
mini camp and all of that.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Like, I think, just like one thing is.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Just literally for the fans that do get to go,
like you'll be sort of blown away by the construction.
I mean, the building is huge. It's very like it's
just sort of striking when you're standing there and you're
like in the shadow of this big construction project. But
beyond that, you know, just as like you just get
that feeling like if you do it enough, like you

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get that feeling this time of year where where it's
about it's about time to get it rolling and like
you know, as much as you I might say, like
I could use another week of summer, it goes. Summer
goes by fast or whatever. Like when you're standing out
there watching an NFL team, you know, get ready for
a season and you're.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
Sort of trying to piece together Okay, who do I like?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
What do I think is interesting? You know what am
I what? Maybe do I.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Can I see because I'm here every day that fans.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Would be interested in that kind of stuff, Like, I mean,
you know, there's nothing really better than that. It's a
great time of year because you get the most. It's
the most for those of us who don't get to
watch practice aside from a viewing period in the in
the season and all that, Like it is the most
in football intensive portion of the calendar, and that makes
it a great part of the calendar.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Year two for boat Nicks.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
A lot of optimism about him maybe taking the next step,
but we've seen the other side of that coin last
year CJ.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Stroud took a step back.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
The sophomore slub can be real when teams get an
off season to review a full year of tape on you,
and and and and try and punch CounterPunch you. What
do we what do we expect from bow Knicks in
season two?

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah, I mean I think we expect, you know, him
to be to be prepared and for him to like like,
there's gonna be adversity, right like, and you sort of
like one of the things he came to expect last
year that he would handle that pretty well. Like early
in the season, you know that he obviously didn't. It
was a slow start for him, and then he sort
of like you know, maybe like lots of temper in
New York when you know, there was like the wet

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ball thing and it was raining more than they expected
and all of that. But like as the season went along,
you saw him settle down a little bit, handle a
versity well, play really well in big spots, and so
you just I think you build off of that and
then it's gonna be like, I'm fascinated to see.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
You know, the sort of year too expansion.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Looks like with him and Sean Payton and you know
what defenses they're going to do. Like, obviously people know
a little better about what he can do in the
running game now and people will.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Probably try to force him to you know, push the
ball outside.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Of the numbers and all of that, and so like
it's not only about him, you know, showing that he
can do those things, but also it's about you know,
designing ways to still get to your sweet spots.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
And you know, Champayne's like it's been good.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
At that obviously in his career. He's good play caller,
he's been a good designer all of that, and so
it's a fascinating Obviously it's a big you know plot
to the season offensively, and it's going to be fascinating
to see sort of like how.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
How quickly they can you know, get get it and
hit the.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Ground running because fast starts have not been a strong
suit of this team the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Last year, the Broncos defense had about sixty three sacks,
which were historic for the organization. Can they get back
to that number but more employee? Can they see that
number this year?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I don't know if they can exceed sixty three. I
mean that's a lot, but I think I think you'll
see them be able to play in a similar way
where they you know, they trust the secondary to such
a degree that to play man and to play coverage
with six that you can rush five and you can
have guys get one on ones and you know, so
whether it's sixty three or fifty eight or fifty five
or whatever, like, I think you will see them cause

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a similar level of disruption for quarterbacks. Now, is it
like if it's six less sacks but five more takeaways,
like that's fine, right, Like you can you sort of
like you never quite know where the numbers are going
to land.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
But if you're near the league at top of the.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
League in pressure rate, you're going to force quarterbacks into
bad decisions, you know, the sort of strip sacks and
the fumbles and all that stuff comes along with that.
And so yeah, I mean sixty three, I don't know
if that's a lot, that's a big number. I might
take the under on that, but I think they're primed
to sort of have a similar level of impact, and
if it was slightly few sacks and plenty more takeaways,

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I think Sean Payne would take that.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Parker, we appreciate it as always, look forward to seeing
you out there next week.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah you bet, guys, all right, take care of Parker
Gabriel That Parker.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
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Speaker 2 (33:13):
We gotta hit a break, we come back.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
We're gonna get deep dive into the Broncos training camp preview.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
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