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Welcome to It, Broncos Country Tonight, Budge with All Brian, Nick Ferguson,
Grant Smith, Nick Ferguson, howyou doing. I'm doing well,
man. How about you have alittle bit of a busy weekend this weekend?
I thought I was gonna relax,thought I was just gonna you know,
there's a lot of nonchalance. Ithink America as a hold, thought
everyone was going to relax. Andthen all of a sudden, there's some

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breaking news and we saw what happenedin Pennsylvania and it was rather shocking,
to say the least. And Iwas watching with my family and it was
just like, well, did Ijust see what I just saw? At
first I couldn't believe. Like atfirst I saw it and I was like,

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was that? Did somebody pop aballoon? Was somebody fired air pellets?
Like? At first I was like, I don't understand what am I
watching here? Then after you startto figure out, okay, there's little
blood trickolet off the year there orwhatever, and uh and they're they're rushing
into safety. I'm like, okay, so was there a real attempt?
It just kept evolving and you're like, is this for real, is this
really happening? Yeah, And Iknow when you first watch it, you

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don't know what's actually going on.But if you look at some of the
individuals to former President Trump's left side, you see them react entirely different from
those on the right side, andtheir camera angles. A lot of camera
angles were panned to the right sideinitially, so everybody's looking at this like
what's happening here, But if they'dhad the angles from the left side,

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it would have been more readily apparentright off the back. Yeah. And
once you get the kind of wideangle I mean you can see here on
the television as we look up rightnow, you started getting more things coming
out on social media as far aswhat people were actually seeing booths on the
ground. Yeah, and there werepeople that saw him before he did it.
Yes, we saw him before hedid it. And once again,

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I would have to say this,I believe those people on the ground,
even though you look at the localpolice and the Secret Service reacting a little
Floyd, then you anticipated just thefact that those individuals making noise a learning
might have sped him up to apoint where he had to get the shot
off quick. And that was oneof those things, along with former President

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Trump actually moving his head as hewas talking. He looked to his right,
moved his head. Yeah, yes, And I immediately the reactions were,
oh, this was staged. AndI was like, well, there's
no way that this could be stage. And people were like, well,
I know one of those Hollywood bloodcaps when I see one, and I'm
thinking like, no, no,you don't. So let's wait and see

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what the information is like. Thatwas a big thing that I noticed.
I was on Twitter at the time, and I think the thing that bothered
me was how many people were notwaiting for the fact I called it,
and even the people who were lookingfor the fact I had called people up
there, talked to somebody who worksin law enforcement was at the rally and
all that kind of stuff, andanother officer had told him that Trump was

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hit by glass and the teleprompter,and that spread like wildfire. That was
you know that the bullet hit inthe glass is what it is here,
And I still don't know if that'sthe case now. President trumpet his statements
said the bullet was what pierced ishere. So that's what we had to
go on right now. But therewere little things like that that even people
who were actively seeking the correct informationwere still trying to wrap their head arounds

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and get right and stuff like that, and just there were so many things
out there. There was a videosome troll that was shared that isn't even
the shooter that people thought was theshooter. Then you had other videos that
people were trying to attribute and it'sjust, you know, people will seek
anything to it felt like, wouldseek anything to kind of get their preconceived
bias rather than just letting the factsfall in their lap fall where they may.

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And you know what, Ben,that is the most disheartening thing about
what has happened in our culture,in our society. And I know everyone
wants their fifteen minutes of fame,but you're absolutely right. There were false
details that were being pushed out thereabout who the culprit was and it started
to, I guess, make othersdecide to attach comments to it, only

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kind of firing up chaos within itself. And the idea is that the first
thing I said, Man, weare Americans first, and it doesn't make
a difference what side of the aisleyou support. At the end of the
day, we are Americans, andidea is that this is the best country

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in the world. That's why wehave so many people trying to get in
right, because it's supposed to bethe land of opportunity. And the idea
is that we have to start lovingone another more because I feel this deep
down in my soul. It isour differences that make us more alike.
And if we're always open to listening, think about what I just said.

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I did just say talking, Ididn't say talking first. If we're open
to listening, this is how wediffuse some of the rhetoric that has been
spewed all night of side. Well, and that's one of the first things
that I got on Twitter to say. I'm like, look, I you
know, I don't necessarily agree withPresident Trump, but he didn't deserve to
get shot at. And certainly,you know, the situation proved deadly,

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not for him, but for others. One spectator was killed, two others
critically injured in the attack. Andhow did we get so spun up by
this? And it's because of inflammatoryrhetoric And no one is innocent here.
You know, we've had you sawon social media the left and the right
point fingers at each other. Well, you compared him to Hitler. You
did this, you did that.You you you know, And I'm like,

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you're both guilty. I'm good pointingthe fingers and police your own You're
both guilty of it. You areabsolutely right, But it's almost like rooting
for sports team. Everyone wants tosupport their team, and if you're not
saying what they want to hear inin agreement with them, then you're wrong.
And even if we agree disagree onwhat topic, some people in society,

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and I don't want to generalize,but it does happen where they think
we can't agree on this one thing, then we can't agree on anything else,
which is I hate that. Ihate that. I mean were you
said it best earlier when you saidwe're all Americans first, right, at
the end of the day, weare all America. Whatever we believe it,
we're all Americans. We all wantthe best for America. We may
disagree fundamentally on how to get there, but at the end of the day,

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we're all Americans. We all wantthe best America to live in.
Right, So guys, we gottawe gotta find ways to work with each
other. Catch more it. Catchmore Flies with honey is a phrase.
It's come to mind recently because I'mlike, as I was engaging with people
online, I'm like the vitriolic naturewith which people are engaging me, and
I'm like, you realize that I'mnever gonna come around to your point just

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by the just by the tone withwhich you're coming after me instead of trying
to understand what I'm trying to sayso that we can find common ground.
But see, here's what I've learned. It happens when you when in the
world of sports, it happens allthe time, and when you're having side
conversations with friends and family, thesethings come up because individuals become so fixated

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and solid on their viewpoint and they'renot trying to listen to what you're saying.
They want you to get their pointright. In any argument. I
can tell you anyone arguing about anything, you could be arguing with your spouse
about whatever. Someone wants you tohear their point right. They don't want
to hear what you have to say. They want you to get their point.
And after you get their point andacknowledge that they're right now, they're

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willing to listen to you. Butif you've got two people doing that,
then nobody's ever listened. It's astellate right because no will. And believe
me, I've been in those argumentsbefore. I know exactly, I know
exactly how that is. Trust myself. Great smiling because yes, you're the
man. You know about what eightmonths now, eight nine months. So
he's smiling because he knows it's happenedto him already. Possibly Yep, he's

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parting. He won't get near thatmicrophone right now because sex life because involved
the conversation. We had some othernews that broke this morning. Terrell Davis,
former Broncos running back Hall of Famer, put out a statement on Instagram

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describing a humiliating, disturbing, traumatizingincident in front of his children on board
United Airlines flight. He said thathe's still in shock over the traumatizing events.
During a United Airlines flight with hiswife and three children from Denver to
Orange County on Saturday, his sonasked for a cup of ice during beverage

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service. The flight attendant didn't respondto their quest, so Davis said he
calmly reached behind me and lately tappedhis arm. The flight attendant allegedly shouted,
don't hit me left the beverage cartto go to the front of the
plane, and Davis said he andother passengers were confused. David said,
I thought nothing of it other thanthis particular employee was incredibly rude and blatantly

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wrong in his accusations of me hittinghim. Did not see or interact with
him further for the duration of theflight, but the former NFL MVP said
when the flight landed, the pilotasked all passengers to remain seated, and
six FBI and law enforcement agents boardedthe plane and put him in handcuffs.
David said, quote, I wasthen removed from the flight while being recorded
by multiple passengers as I was paradedoff the plane in handcuffs by the officers,

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I was and remained humiliated, embarrassed, powerless, and angry. David
said he was taken by authorities forquestioning and alleged afterward, as rightfully determined
by the agents, that this flightattendant was inaccurate in his accusations, and
the agents profusely apologized, even offeringto support me and my family in any
way possible. Spokesmans for the FBIand John Wayne Airport and Anna where the

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flight landed. Confirmed the incident toUSA Today's Sports as well. Nick,
I've never been in a situation likethat, but I got to imagine I
felt that like when T when youknow, I mean, I am TD
and I have a good working relationship. He's brought me on to some projects
before. I wouldn't call us friends, but he's always done a great job

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of like helping me out in mycareer, and he's been nothing but a
great person to me. And whenhe sent that, I felt it.
I've read it his voice. Ifelt his pain as he was saying that,
the humiliation of being falsely accused likethat in front of your child,
emasculated, cuffed, and I can'timagine. You know, I know I've
reached out to you. We talkedabout it briefly, but I'm sure you

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have thoughts on this. Yeah,I do have thoughts on it. And
I've spoken to someone close to TDabout the situation when I first heard about
it to confirm that it actually tookplace. And it is an uncomfortable situation
for anyone to actually go through whathe described and when usually when the plane

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lands, they tell you everyone stayin your seat. Because we have individuals
trying to get to connecting flight frontright, but never do you anticipate hearing
everyone stay in your seat and thensix offices and FBI agents come on the
seat and they come directly to yourseat to handcuff you, to take you
off the plane and then take youout into a waiting area where everyone else

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is waiting to get on the plane, parading you in front of everyone out
there. And the first thing Iwas thinking, like, wow, this
happened to Erald Davis, and yougot to figure that people know who he
is, not Hall of Famer,Denver Bronco, all around cool guy and
this network. I mean he wason TV as It's not like, yes,
and this is happening to him,And I said, I can only

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imagine what he feels like and tryingto put yourself in that mold, no
matter what your racial background is,for someone to come up to you when
you're sitting there with your family andtelling you to stand up, turn around,
let me handcuff you. And yougot small kids there. I can
only imagine what his kids and howthey were feeling about their father being taken

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away. And no, clearly noexplanation given. My first thought on this
was that this is probably some shakedown, you know, somebody recognized him
and thought they were gonna get apayday and do this kind of stuff.
That was my first thought. Idon't have any evidence to support that,
so I don't want to sit there. But that was the first thing that
went through my head. After readingit, though, I was like,
man, United Airlines is about tobecome Terrell Davis Airlines. Comes a lot
of the TDS, guys. I'mjust now for you to move about the

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cabin. You are now free torush for two thousand yards. Yes,
yeah, You're not free to rushabout the cabin. I'm just saying I
feel like that this, I meanUnited Airlines apologized for the incident today.
Not enough, well, I meantoo little, too late. This morning
they sent down a statement that theflight attendant involved the matter has been removed
from duties they review the incident.They said, quote, this is clearly

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not the kind of travel experience westrive to provide and have reached out to
mister Davis's team to apologize. Youknow, Terrell's legal team, which is
Steiner, gold, Greco and Hensley, will be in contact with the United
Airlines, demanding an investigation into theflight attendant, Parker Steinar. The law
firm said in a statement to USAToday that the legal team plans to investigate
the incident and are contacting night AtAirlines for it. That his statement speaks

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for himself. So I I justfor anybody who's ever been put through a
situation like that for whatever reason,that that's that's got to be rough.
And I just you know, knowingthat as a man, you know,
and you and I talk about thisa lot, as as men, being
in front of your child and havingthat occur, I can't even begin to

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fathom, you know, because youwe we we do have that, whether
whether it's an outdated stereotop or nightas man, we do have that Papa
Bear thing inside of us. Right, I'm the guardian, I'm the protector.
I'm the you know, I'm thedark Knight. I think that before
you before you can get a robinin there. Yeah, I'm just but
I'm just say like you do havethat in there, and and and to

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be powerless in front of everybody,in front of your family, to be
emasculated, humiliated, and to plantseeds of doubt inside the mind of your
children, Like I just I don'tknow. I can't even begin to fathom
or it's hard to fathom. AndI know it's gonna be hard for United

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Airlines to fathom because I guess thisis one of many incidents that the airlines
have had to deal with. Imean, they've dealt with some safety issues
and issues with flight attendants and passengers, and you're absolutely right, this is
not a way that you treat anyone. And with regard to fact that twelve

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Davis is a Hall of Famer,this shouldn't happen to anyone. I don't
care who you are, what socioeconomicbackground you're from. This is something that
cannot be tolerated because everyone works hardfor their money and when you paid to
fly on a flight, you arepaying for that customer service, right And

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listen, I've been on flights myselfwhere I'm not gonna tell you what which
airlines, but looking like I do, walking in and making the left the
first class instead of writing coach andsomeone telling you, excuse me, sir,
can I help you? And I'mlike, no, you can move

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your hand. You want to helpme out, But having something like that
happen to you and the flight attendantof the passenger is not thinking that you're
supposed to be where you are.It's a problem. And all that takes,
man, is simple communication and dialogue, etiquette and assumption a good faith.
That's it, man. We don'tdo that anymore. We don't give

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anybody the assumption good faith. Wealways look at everybody. And I don't
know if it's a byproduct of socialmedia. I don't know what it is,
but it feels like we all lookat each other suspiciously a lot more
than we should. It's I wouldsay it's social media. It's a lot
of things that are perpetuted in societyand there I say this, things that

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are pushed out there from a narrativestandpoint from the media. Yeah, right,
So it's helping people who drive thesenarrative narratives and this perception that this
is how a group of people wouldact. That dovetails right back into the
first conversation that we were having aboutpolitical veheteric being dialed up because the media

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is to blame too. I workin media. I know what it's like.
I know what it's like to haveto fight for headlines. I know
what it's like to use inflammatory rhetoricin those kinds of things in an effort
to try to get attention. Becauseif you sit there and you just happen
to have an opinion, and it'sa good opinion, but it's not something
that stands out of you know,it's not something that's bombastic, you're less

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likely to get noticed. And sowhat you have is a frenzied media these
days that seizes on comments like thatand ratchets that dialogue up. You're rewarded
in a sense for that. Youget more clicks, you get more views,
you get more attention. That leadsto more money, and that's unfortunately
a byproduct of the system we hadset up. There's got to be a
better way to do this. Thereis a better way, but it's no

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better. Do better, But itis that that pursuit of being on like
a four letter network, but beingon one of the major networks that individuals
fields, as though I have topresent myself in this way in order to
get clicks. I got to standout right, And you and I have
gone, you know, talked aboutcertain things that have happened in the city,

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and I will not call out anynames, but it's one of those
things that kind of drew me inback into the business was because I got
sick and tired of hearing certain individualsand outlet saying things negatively about players on
different sports. And I'm like,we have a job being in the media
of reporting the facts. You know, the ideas not to be the be

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the first ideas to be right.The idea is to be the first right
one, exactly. That's the realthing. You do have to get out
there fact because if you're late tothe party, then you know you're somebody
reading somebody else. But the problemis is that people in there, in
their haste to be first, don'tmake sure that they are right. But
now it's not about credible or reliablesource, it's about I was the first

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one to put it out there.Yeah, and and for me as a
player, if you put your nameon it as a player, as someone
in the media and you say somethingabout the player, don't be surprised when
that player comes after you. Well. And that's the other part of this
is so many people put so muchof this stuff out and never have to
make eye contact with the person theyput it out about. No, I've
always said, if you're gonna ifyou're gonna rip somebody, and that's not

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me, it's not my brand,it's not what I do, right,
I mean, I'll rip people onTwitter because they're dumb, but beyond because
they're dumb, really is how conssentingthat is. But what I'm saying is
just like I'm not after a ripingathletes and that's that's just that's just not
my what I do. I'm notabout that. I don't why, you
know, But if you're gonna dothat, be the person that's in the
locker room looking them in the eyeafter you do it. Good luck on

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that one, buddy. I'm justsaying there are not too many people,
there's be totally honest in this marketwho are willing to stand on business.
But that's sort of my point,yes, is that you know, you
don't see that because they don't doit. You get bloggers out there doing
it. And I'm not trying touse that as a bajarati if I'm trying
to say, you get people thatdon't have that kind of access, say
it's easy for them to do it. It's easy for us to insult each

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other behind computer screens now because wedon't have to look somebody in the eye.
Mike Tyson said it best. Youknow, people said people sitting there
saying things behind social behind computer screensnow that if they said to your face,
would have got to pop the jawback in the day. See,
that's that's the cowards way of doingthing. Mm hmm. I'm I'm with
you on this. We gotta toCosmetic cot Up seven oh five, NFL
six Packs, seven thirty five,and Kiowas covered the Republican National Convention.

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At eight o'clock, he listened toBroncos Country Night, Koe Welcome back to
It, Broncos Country Tonight, BenjaminAlbrighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here
with you. I was just inthere talking with our program director Dave Tepper
about my triple option college football videogames. Say, He's like, and
that's fun for you. Oh yeah, winning is fun for me. Dude,
you suck. I have to tellyou, suck. Grind it downs.

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There's three total possessions for the game. I'm milking a whole half in
one possession that you make. Youmake the game boring. I made the
game for me. Geez, Ishould stopped me. I couldn't play I
shouldn't play against you. Stop me. You're running the ball the entire time.
Stop me. I'm not evenna playwith good teams. I deliberately take
bad teams for the challenge. Seeand knowing you've been you will take the

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ball, run with it to milkout all the time, and talk trash
while you need an entire time.You know, It's like it was.
It's equivalent to what my siblings weused to do when we're kids, when
you would get your fingers close tosomeone's face. I'm not touching them,
don't touch me. I'm not touching. I'm not touching. Don't touch me
touching that's what That's simply what you'redoing. I would get so pissed.

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Eh, and they do. Ohman, This poor guy, I mean,
he had to be, you know, somewhere between fifteen and twenty,
was screaming at me because I meanhe's fifteen to twenty or so. He's
never seen the flexbone in his life. This is some kid who's never even
heard of the flexbone, literally neverheard of it. So you're running the
ball down his throat. He's frustrated, and I'm making derogatory comments about getting

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boned. You know, yes,of course it's yes, like if you
and his mom's in the backs,like guse she gonna love you any lesson
she says. You know what,I could see you playing in the tournament
and someone getting on getting so frustratedthey actually pull the control out of the
wall or they smack you in theoh. I get so many rage quits,
like now the twitch is a thinglike that. I think I'm gonna

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go back and start doing this andthen record the rage quits and like all
the audio of people, like youhave a compilation of them, just have
the greatest hits, just just havean absolute it's just and like there they
get so much like genuinely angry.Though that's not how the game is played.
Absolutely it's played that way. No, it's not. No, why

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is it not? They make itso you can do this. It's called
a balance attack. Man, myname ballast attack. You gotta line.
Everybody's running four verticals out of fivewide? How many passes did you throw?
A fat? And really the onlyreason I threw those is because at
one point when and I just wouldI would catch the ball and I would
just kneel it right there and takeit on the ten so I'd have more

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yards to kneel the clock out.Yeah, I know, I'm that guy.
I know you do so idiot.So this guy is the first thing
he does is trying to do likea goal line defense. I got ninety
yards to go and he's got thegoal line to try to stop this,
which was a bad idea. Butthey have the RPO built into this game
now, and that's when you decide, And I'm like, what do you

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do? Like he's like, wait, what you could you still get the
wins if they rage quit the unautomatic win. I don't get the stats
for the rest of the game,but I get the automatic win. See.
This is another reason why don't playgames like like Men because of this.
I am alright, Benjamin Albright takingthe fun out of video games.

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It's twenty twenty four. I hearyou saying that, and really it's it's
like two thousand and four, Butit's fun for me. Like it's a
challenge for me to be able topull that off. Talk about above kill
man, god man, frustrating,wishbone, flex bone. Either way you
get boned. See I would justblissed off the edge and just smack your

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corner. Feel free. My wholebacks getting right, feel free, you
know. Yeah. Anyway, Sofor those of you who wonder to get
you the new game is fun anduh, you guys should check it out
if you get a chance. Ithink comes available in a couple of days.
I get the early access or whatever, but it comes it comes available

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in uh uh in a couple ofdays. Uh. But what do we
think about Doron holmes Man? Whatan unfortunate injury tearing his achilles right off
the bat. I mean, helooked promising, played what a game and
a half something like that. Lookslooked real promising out there. Uh and
then tears the achilles and out forthe season. What a What a huge
blow for the Nuggets right off thebad Yeah, highly disappointing because the idea

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was, you didn't know how coachMalone's gonna fit Homes into the rotation.
But you figures though, with Caseyp Gone, he was going to get
some minutes just to see what typeof player he was and could he adjust
to the NBA game. But it'sdefinitely disappointing for a guy, young guy
with some early promise to have anissue like this. And the one thing

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that I can kind of relate itto is when we were at training camp
last year and we saw Tim Patrickgo down and it was just like everyone
it was just gas for air,like no, not again. So it's
very unfortunate and it makes you wandertoo. If you're a young guy coming
into any league, especially in theNBA, do you want to play in

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these summer league games. We knowthey're very important to building team chemistry,
developing your NBA game. But atthe same time, these injuries happen,
and this is what a lot ofteams are going to run into as we
get closer to report day in theNFL. Yeah, I mean no,
I think if you're a rookie youkind of want to. I mean,

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it was a freak accident. Youknow, It's not the odds of that
happening. Uh, It just itjust sucks for the Nuggets who were probably
counting on Holmes yeah, to bea large part of what they do.
On the On the plus side,Julian Strawther has been a revelation thus far.
You know what I thought Strawther wasa ball of last year. This
is the fact that once again you'renot working on the time and in chemistry

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and playing you know, in theNBA. But I think he can be
a guy that I'm not gonna sayyou can fill up the stat sheet,
but a reserve who can come inand give you some quality minutes. Because
that is an issue that is aconcern for the Denver Nuggets. We know
what they're starting five looks like wheneveryone is healthy. It is that second

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unit that that's that's that's an issue. We don't though, because KCP is
no longer here, so we don'tknow what the starting five is. Well,
no four, K five, allright, Well the idea is that,
well, KCP, you move himout, but then you move Kristin
Brown into that situation, because that'sthat's kind of what Calvin Bulton is thinking.
Maybe my thing, I might gowith Strawther out there at you know,

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at the off guard and do somethinglike that. I know he's really
more of a three and you know, at sixty six, but I might
look at him in that kind ofrole because I feel like Christian Brawn is
at his best coming off the benchand being like a spark. You know,
he's a he's a defensive, hustleguy who can make some plays on
offense. I like him better.It's kind of like remember when the Nuggets
had Keff for Reid. Yes,and they put him in the starting lineup,

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but then they moved you back tothe bench because even in the minimal
he was a great player. Hewas one of those hustle guys off the
bad It was just better off thebench gave you that energy. So you
know what, ben as you saythat, he is what I'm thinking as
though, how when I play personnel, individuals viewed me and I know David
Bruden was viewed the same way,the same way you talk about for Reid,

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the same way you talk about ChristanBrown. Is how we were viewed.
Okay, guy got a lot ofenergy, could do multitude of different
things. But not seeing you asa starter. Well, okay, let
me believe me. Pref said youcould start Kenneth for Reid, you could
start Braun. I'm asking what theirbest spot is. Yes, But but
for Reid and Christan Brown and myself, they've been bruten It was like,

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no, man, we cut ourteeth, we earned some to be a
starter, So put me in andsee what happens. Now. Yes,
would it be great for Christan Brownto come continue to come off the bench,
Yes, it would help the secondunit. But his mind and Kevin
Boot's mind, the kid has alreadydone everything he needs to do. He's

(27:36):
earned a shot because now KCP isgone, give him off his opportunity,
and let's see what happens and seeif he can step into the road,
because sometimes guys can't step into thatrole and step into the road well as
though they did when they didn't havebig expectations. Yeah, and I'm not
saying that Braun can't cannot be astarter. I mean, I guess I
need to clarify that. What I'msaying is that I look at him.

(27:56):
When I see him, I seea guy who I want coming off the
bench for that energy in that spark, because it's what he does. But
that doesn't necessarily mean that he can'tbring it as a starter. Okay,
So at what point does does ChristianBrown earn the right to be a bona
fide star. I'm not outside ofthat rope. I'm not saying he's not.
I mean, we may try himin that early in the season.
I'm probably platooning with him and Strawthto kind of see what works and what

(28:19):
doesn't and and and how we canfigure that out. I find that if
I'm him, I find that highlydisrespectful. Bron Yes, I contributed in
major ways and pivotal moments last yearand this year, and now you want
to go the platoon idea of arotation between me and some other guys.
Yeah, we'll roll back and see, you know, earn it, continue

(28:41):
to earn it. I got fivefingers here, and I got a special
one for you. That's exactly ifI'm Christman Brown, that's exactly how I'm
feeling. Well, we got aspecial one out there at the Koa Comma
Spirits A Traffics Center, and that'sDarren Copley. I got five fingers too,
So hey, welcome back to it, Broncos Country tonight. Benjamin All,
Brian Nick, Ferguson, Grant Smithhere with you back. We were

(29:03):
talking about before the break, Iguess we were talking about Nuggets options to
replace CACP, about the Holmes injury, which really puts a detriment in what
I think the Nuggets were trying todo this year, and being able to
spell Nicole Jokic take some of thewear and tear off him over the course
of the season. And you andI are I don't say we're odds,

(29:23):
but I think we have different opinionson what the Nuggets should do. You
think they should start Christian Braun.I'm I think they should platoon and see
whether he or Strother or or theguy. Why. What has Strawther done
to deserve that opportunity? In nodisrespect to him, but it's more about
what Christin Brown has done himself asa young player, and knowing as though

(29:48):
coas Malone typically doesn't like to playyounger players, Ron has kind of round
himself into one hell of a player, so he's earned the opportunity to get
called up from the bullpen, ifyou will. Yeah, Braun last year
played an oll eighty two games forthe Nuggets, every seven point three points

(30:10):
per game and twenty point two minutesper game. I mean, his career
highs twenty five in terms of scoring. Strawther dropped thirty two, by the
way the other night or in thelast Nuggets Summer League game. Not quite
the same thing. But I don'tknow. I mean, at the end
of the day, I mean,they'll they'll figure it out and they'll figure

(30:30):
out what the rotation is. Iguess I just I look at this and
I see somebody who's capable of who'scapable of bigger numbers, I think in
terms of scoring. But that maybe what you want off the bench.
Maybe when Michael Porter Junior is gettinga you know, getting arrest, you're
breaking in a strather, puttinghim atthe three and giving him the opportunity to,
you know, to pull at JamesHarden and make it rain. The
issue with the Nuggets, yeah,I saw what you did. The issue

(30:52):
with the Nuggets isn't there starting fivethe depth. It's the depth. So
the more guys that you can developon that second unit, to get them
pivotal game time experience and develop otherguy's skill set as far as scoring,
that's what you're gonna need. Becausethe problem is, once Jamal is off

(31:15):
the floor, once Nicola is offthe floor, who is running with that
second group. Like Reggie Jackson usedto run with that second group, He's
gone. He's gone. So youneed someone to uplift that group and keep
the scoring consistent. Strawda would beperfect for But to leap frog Kristen Brown

(31:36):
like that, I don't think that'sa good idea because one is a little
more NBA reliable than the other player. Yeah, and we've certainly seen what
Ron rakes on the table. They'llfigure that out. I think the bigger
question now is to figure out whatis that they're going to do with the
Holmes plan. Is it gonna beyou know you're bringing PJ. Holl Is

(31:57):
he gonna be the guy? Youknow it's Holmes with it? Is it
Jay Hoff? You know DeAndre Jordanat thirty five? I don't think offers
you what you're what you're looking forthere? You know what, what exactly
is going to be the plan behindnicolay Jokic this season. I think that's
the bigger issue, and then youfigure out the depth for the rest of

(32:17):
the team from there. He hasa great part about this situation. As
negative as holmes injury is, itprovides another opportunity for another player to step
up. This is where the Nuggetsand coach Malone can prove to the rest
of the NBA that we draft andwe develop players. Something the Rockies which

(32:39):
they could do, but this issomething that coach Malone could actually do.
This gives another player an opportunity,and that's the way you have to look
at It's bad that Holmes that injury. Well, what other players can develop
and you may need two players tokind of pick up the pieces. But
this kind of puts the Nuggets inand the coach Stepnis situation where let's so

(33:00):
improve what we can do. Ithink at the end of the day,
Mike Malone is going to have torely on younger players a little bit more
than he wants to or is comfortablewith. Got to change him and and
that change is good, Yeah,because I mean Strawthory is going to have
to be involved in some way.Bron obviously is going to have to be
involved in some way. We haveyou mentioned Peyton Watson, who is obviously
going to have to be involved insome way. That's another guy who must

(33:21):
have don't you feel like kind ofthe uh Broncos GM and management are kind
of forcing Michael Malone to to playsome younger players with the lack of going
out and getting some veterans and freeagency. Well, I don't think George
Peyton is doing that, but Ithink the Nuggets, Uh, the Nuggets
are you said the Broncos for anoffice? Oh sorry, doubt Valley,

(33:46):
And see what I think You're right. I think there's there's absolute true to
that and that there's uh, thelack of adding certain players has kind of
you know, got to force yourhand that you're going to have to play
those players. Let's see their hand. Nugget's hands were fours when you had
three guys on max steels and onlytwo of those guys are playing like they

(34:06):
have earned those max steels, sothat tie their hands. That's why KCP
is not here anymore. That's whyBruce Brown's not here anymore. So now
you have to rely on these otherplayers, and you have to say,
okay, well we didn't make alot of moves the Nuggets, you know,
brass and free agency, so wehave to make the most out of
the roster that we have. Honestly, it feels like, in hindsight,

(34:27):
the Nuggets should have found a wayto pay Aaron Gordon, KCP and Bruce
Brown and maybe saved on that MAXextension with Michael Porter Junior. But hindsight's
twenty twenty. Well, when yougo out on a limb for a guy
like Michael Porter Jr. And thewhole idea was that he has so much
promise, then you have to becauseyou got to make yourself right, even
when you wrong, So that's whythey did it. It was the promise

(34:50):
over projections that they believe more in, Well, we project. We're going
to be back with Nick Cosmiter afterthis
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