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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome back to some more post Rockies
Late Night Broncos Country to Night once again, as you're
feeling host It is Zach Seers covering for Benjamin Alright
and Nick Ferguson. With this week coming to a close,
it's now time to turn our eyes forward towards Broncos

(00:21):
training camp, which will be officially starting next week and
becoming open to the media. Will be in attendance, giving
you the latest updates on what's going on out there
and who's impressing.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Who's stock is rising, who stock is falling.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
But with that on the horizon, I thought now would
be a perfect time to provide a little preview for
the fans who will be in attendance and those just
following the headlines. But what are the biggest storylines to
watch at Broncos camp? To break it down for you
guys today, I've got a top seven list I'm going
to go through. These are the top seven biggest storylines
to watch at Broncos training camp this season. Number seven

(01:01):
Drew Sanders. Where does he fit in on this defense?
You know they finally landed on a position for the
guy at inside linebacker. I think that's going to be
very good for his development that he's not getting, you know,
jerked around to these different positions, having to learn you know,
different techniques, different roles, different calls, all these different aspects.

(01:21):
You know, he can just settle in start perfecting his
craft at this one position, especially one like linebacker, which
is so mentally taxing. He can now be devoting all
his mental resources to that. But where does he fit
in on this defense? I think that's pretty important. When
you know Dray green Law, as wonderfully talented as he is,
has some big injury questions. Alex Singleton, you know, is

(01:43):
thirty two. I believe now coming off in ACL tear,
that's going to be a pretty meaningful concern. And these
last two seasons, you know, even when healthy, weren't Singleton's best.
He's also entering a contract year. So whether it's guys
getting injured during this season, whether it's you know, what
do the Broncos want to do after this season? Also,

(02:05):
Drew Sanders is, you know, a year away from being
in a contract year. He'll he'll be looking probably at
an extension this offseason, or the Broncos might at least
be considering to extend of this coming off season rather,
I mean twenty twenty six, and now the decks are clear.
One they've, like I said, settled on a position for
the guy. He's also not coming off a terrible Achilles

(02:26):
injury or some sort of devastating injury. He's got a
clear runway in front of him, hopefully to make an
impact on this defense. So what does he do with it?
I think that's a huge question just surrounding the season
in general, and we're going to start getting our first
answers to it in training camp. How high up in
that linebacker rotation is he? Is he ahead of used

(02:46):
or nod as that you know, first guy off the bench,
that that number one option as a reserve for either
Greenlot or Singleton. You know, is he getting some look
with the starting unit. Maybe not as a replacement for
Singleton this season. I don't think that'll happen yet, but
as a special package player. You know, he is a

(03:08):
very good blitzer. The little flashes we saw that. We're
really exciting of him at that off ball linebacker spot
last season where when he was getting used as a blitzer.
We know Vance Joseph loves to send heat and send
it from all different sorts of directions. Loves having blitzers
that can also drop back into coverage. Sanders can potentially
do that with his athleticism. So how much is he
getting mixed in in those starting units? Is he just

(03:32):
a reserve and special teams player this year? Because then
he probably doesn't get signed next offseason. The Broncos are
probably in a position where, Okay, do we do a
one year proven thing with Drew Sanders, or do we
resign Alex Singleton or do we draft a guide? Are
we in the free agent market for a linebacker?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
But if he can start to build a rotational role
where he's getting meaningful defense his snaps, I think the
Broncos could feel confident in, Hey, let's gamble on this
guy by low he's a good special teamer, solid rotational
piece at least us. Let's lock him up at this
lower rate and give him a chance to be our
starting linebacker and see what happens, and maybe he can
finally live up to his pre draft pedigree that's kind

(04:13):
of been hamstrung.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
By injuries or.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You know, changing positions and the coaching staff overhauls. I'm
curious to see what he can finally do with a
clear runway ahead of him. Number six here, This one's
also for a pretty young player, Caleb Lohner, and just
how raw is he? How ready to get to contribute?

(04:40):
Rather is he in twenty twenty five? Now the Broncos
don't have a super pressing, demanding need for him to
play some major role right away. They've got Evan Ingram,
who can carry a lot of the receiving workload from
the tight end position, even if he's you know, not
maybe technically your traditional in line tight end. And you've

(05:01):
got Adam Troutman almost Sai jef Hireman. They all kind
of blur together. Adam Troutman, as you're kind of jack
of all trades, master of none, you know, can fill
in as the inline tight end. And with those two options,
you know, I think you definitely want to upgrade on
Troutman at some point, but you don't need loner to
be you know, some twenty snap a game player right

(05:24):
out of the box. You know, no one should be
expecting that late seventh round pick. But with his tremendous
traits and the flashes of what we saw, if you've
seen his touchdown against Colorado, he looks unguardable on the play.
You know, if he gets the right positioning and he's
able to come down with the ball. You know that
the hands are a different thing, but he can create

(05:46):
a strike zone for bow Nicks to throw into that
no other or very few other players in the league can.
Between his wingspan, his overall size, his verticality, and he
moves well for someone in such a unusually large frame,
he could be a real asset even as a rookie

(06:06):
if you can find the right niche role for him.
I imagine some sort of red zone role. That's a
lot of what Utah did with him this past season.
He didn't play a ton of snaps for Utah, you know,
this first season of football for him, he was a
player they.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Trotted out in different packages.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know, the people will be familiar with this with
the Travis Hunter conversation about you know, do you play
is a full time offensive player, maybe he's used in
some defensive packages, or maybe he's a full time defensive
player and he's used in some certain offensive packages.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Killed bowner's not playing both ways.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
But that sort of you know piece mealing a role
to him, and his role on offense will be a
lot smaller than you know Travis Hunter's role on offense
or defense, but that similar concept of what sort of
lineup can we give this guy where okay, the blocking
is really raw, How can we take some of that
off of his plate without it being a tell? And
maybe it is something like lining him up as a

(06:57):
supersized Z receiver outside or a supersized slot where there
is a little less of a blocking responsibility and he's almost,
you know again, being used more like a receiver and
you're just asking him, hey, make this cornerback look small
and high point the football.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And he can do that already.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
You know, the technique in the refinement is not there
in his game. But and you don't want to extrapolate
too much from how little even college film there is
of the guy, but it looks like those basic fundamental
skills I don't even want to say fundamental, but you know,
of knowing how to use his athleticism, I guess is
the right way to put it. He knows how to
use his body in athleticism and how how impactful can

(07:40):
that be as a rookie? Is he going to just
be a practice squad guy, which I think is probably
the baseline expectation, you know, and that that would be acceptable.
Or a guy who's at the bottom of maybe they
are worried about him getting poached off the practice squad
and he just gets buried on the bottom of the
depth chart but doesn't seem meaningful playing time. You know,
is that what the expectation is, because I think that's fine.

(08:00):
He was one of the very last picks of the draft.
He was drafted with the mindset of, Hey, this is
a long term project. I don't think you have to
get returns in your one. It would be nice, though,
and I think if he's able to contribute, whether or
not he's able to is I think we're going to
start to get a glimpse of in training camp. I
think we're also going to get a better idea of

(08:21):
just how freaky he is. You know, what does it
look like when he's matched up against Jay Hailskinner running
down the field, or Lavelle Bailey or you know, maybe
if he has lined up out wide, they wouldn't put
Chris Abrams drain on him. But you know, Riley Moss even,
you know, what does that look like Moss is going

(08:41):
to have? And Moss has a durn good athlete in
his own right, but just the size and the verticality
and everything. What does it look like when he's going
against you know, these different body types on defense, you know,
and how how much is he able to get away
with with his lack of experience? I think is going
to be very interesting. You know, can he hold his

(09:02):
own like Mario Goodrich that's a veteran who's bounced around
a little bit, hasn't been a high end corner, or
Rhys Taylor? You know, what does he look like on
those those in those battles towards the bottom of the
depth chart? Quinn Newsome another guy who fits that bill.
You know, is he able to win even with his
lack of experience? And the preseason will get an even

(09:24):
better idea of that. But I'm excited to see just
how freaky it looks in practice during training camp. You know,
I think that's going to really start getting my imagination
right because the idea of him is tantalizing.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You know, Jimmy Graham is such a remarkable athlete.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
He just set a record for rowing, which helps put
that into perspective. You know who I believe more prominent
basketball player than loner had a great football career with
Sean Payton. I don't think you want to put those
lofty expectations on him or like King Antonio Gates or
some of these other trans players we've seen.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
But could he.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Just carve out a nice receiving role, be a red
zone threat for the next four seasons that you use
in a little bit pieces.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
If so, like that lives up to the draft value,
and I.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
It doesn't seem like that high of a bar. I
can't get the Colorado touchdown out of my head. Where
it just looked, and he was going against DJ McKinney,
who is going to go on the first two days
of the draft this coming season. He is a good
cornerback prospect and looked completely outmatched against this guy who's
barely played any football because and there's nothing against J McKinney,
it's just what he do against that right at a point,

(10:37):
just the tools are so overwhelming. So I'm curious to
see how that pans out. And again, because of how
little film we have, how little information we have about
the guy playing football, this is our first good chance
to answer it. He really is shrouded in mystery more
than most of the topics. We'll be looking at number

(10:58):
five here, counting from down from seven to be clear,
Number five. Can q Robinson build on his stellar OTA showing. Now,
if you were paying attention to Twitter at all, or
you know, even your favorite Broncos podcasts, radio shows, writers, whatever,
during OTA's Rookie Minnie Camp two, I'm sure you heard,

(11:20):
Hugh Robinson looked unlockable. He was tearing everything up. He
looked like an absolute gem of a find. And there's
reason to believe there might be substance to that. You know,
at Alabama, he didn't get a lot of playing time
at edge. He was buried behind a lot of first
rounders Will Anderson. You know, Dallas Turner finally got his

(11:42):
chance this last season. With Dallas Turner entering the draft,
and on braswell, I believe went to the Dolphins the
first second round pick. The first round second round picks,
respectively enter the draft. Qugh Robinson is next up to bat.
Finally gets his chance, and in those first four games
his past rush win rate compares to the elite past
rushing prospect of this draft class. Ey's going in the
first round and then he gets injured very early on

(12:06):
in the season. This is the rest of the campaign,
so it's and when he was tearing it up. As
you know about SEC schedules, they play some shaky out
of conference opponents quite frequently, and so the legitimacy of
maybe those stats, I think is also a pair to question,
you know, small sample size against weaker competition.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But it did look very, very very good.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
And even beyond that, we know from his past seasons
at Alabama he's a superstar special teamer, so it looks
like a quality draft pick, but it looks like it
might be hitting that you know, upper personal outcome. If
we're to believe what these writers were seeing in OTAs
is going to carry over into the regular season, into

(12:52):
actual real life football. Now, there's reasons to believe in
these reports, there's also reasons to not believe in them
too much, Rainy or sorry. OTAs notoriously are very sparse
in terms of their amount of contact. They are low
physicality environments. Offensive linemen aren't fully blocking, and so defensive

(13:12):
linemen edge rushers can kind of clean up in those periods.
Is that why Q Robinson looks so good?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Now?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Granted, either everyone else was playing in the same environment
and he looked like the best of the bunch. But
was he just taken advantage of those practice settings? You know,
Montreal Washington was a practice superstar. How does it look
when the offensive lineman start blocking a little more in
training camp, when the contact elevates, the physicality intensifies.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Orlando Franklin was.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
On KOA Sports not long ago, just just a few
weeks back, talking to dry OTAs when Q Robinson was
going off, saying, you know, I always took note of
the rookies or the young guys who would try and
make me look bad during OTAs because I was going
to get them back come training camp. You know, does
that happen to Q Robins? And obviously not in like

(14:00):
a harsh way, but you know in a little like, hey,
learn your plays. I was not going to my hardest.
Let's you know, not get too big for our bridges.
Now does ke Robinson run into that? And if not, man,
does that really change the complexion of things for this
Broncos edge group? Right? Jonathan Cooper is locked up for

(14:21):
the future. Now, there is some flexibility there for the Broncos,
but you should be around for the future. Nick Bonninho's
entering a contract year though, and that's going to be
a big decision the Broncos have to make. And you know,
there's a chance maybe Nick Bonito plays hardball. If the
Broncos don't get something with Zach Allen or Nick Bignido
done ahead of the season, there's a chance what if

(14:41):
both of them play hardball and the Broncos only have
one franchise tag to play with. So there's always the potential,
at least at this point of Benito not being on
the Broncos. You know, in the long term future. Adding
Jonah Ellis last year, who had a solid here, and
adding a guy like Hugh Robinson if again he lives

(15:03):
up to this buzz this year, makes it so that
you know, you have a little more leverage negotiations.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
You maybe feel a.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Little more comfortable playing things slow, you know, ahead of
any deadlines with this season starting. If Hugh Robinson comes
out in hey, maybe it's not looking good in training
camp Jonah Ellis, you know, maybe isn't wowing. Not that
he'd be looking bad or anything. He's established himself to
an extent, but maybe it's just like you're seeing the
options in training camp and it doesn't look like man

(15:36):
we're set for a Nick and Needo departure. Yeah, maybe
that motivates you to get that deal done ahead of
the start of the season. On the other hand, if
Jonah Ellis and Q Robinson are looking like gems absolute
home run hits in the draft, maybe you start thinking about, Man,
do we let the needle walk and get that third
round compick in return? And you know what do we

(15:58):
do here? I think as a result, ke Robinson's performance
could be a fairly large domino this year. Now, I
imagine they just resigned to youido all said and done.
But Q Robinson's play is going to have an impact
on that extension decision for the Broncos, and I'm curious
to see just how strong of a case he can

(16:19):
make himself I make for himself rather in training camp
as things get more physical when we come back. I
will finish up this list of the top seven biggest
storylines to watch. You're listening to Broncos Country Tonight on
eight fifty KOA ninety four to one FM. Hello everybody,

(16:42):
and welcome back to some more Broncos Country Tonight, some
more post Rockies Late Friday Night Broncos Country Night. I
hope you all are having a great Friday night out there,
staying safe, enjoying yourselves. Last segment, I started going through
my list of the seven biggest training camp store lines
to watch for the Denver Broncos training camp right around

(17:03):
the corner here, and I thought, what better way to
preview it than look at you know, what are the
biggest happenings that we might actually get some insight on
during training camp and for fans to watch either as
they're there in person or just watching from Afar or
listening from Afar via you know, KOA Sports or reading
our articles or whatever it may be. Here are I

(17:24):
think the headlines the storylines you have to monitor for
people that missed the first half out. Now, just to
a quick little summary, number seven, I had Drew Sanders
how he fits in on the defense you know contract
here for Alex Singleton, Drew Sanders is reaching the later
stages of his rookie deal. What does his future look
like with the team. What does the insurance options behind

(17:47):
Drake green Law and Alex Singleton, both of which now
have some recent injury history, What do those insurance options
look like. Drew Sanders is a big variable in all
those questions, how raw is Caleb Loner and how ready
is he to contribute this season? You know, this is
a guy with rare athletic traits and tools who, at
times even you know, in his first season playing football

(18:09):
since the eighth grade last season for the utah Utes
looked literally unguardable quite quite frequently. Now the technique is
not there at all that I think his hands need
some improvement too, But you just can't teach the stuff
he does have. And how much can he put together
between now in the start of the season to where

(18:30):
he's not just some practice squatter, He's not just buried
on the bottom of the depth chart. He's playing some
snaps even in a smaller package and making an impact
for this offense. Number five, the last one I got
to before the break here. Can q Robinson continue to
build on his amazing showing at Broncos OTAs he tore
it up. Can he continue to build on that now

(18:53):
that he's actually going to be facing some real contact,
because if so, it impacts the Nick Benito conversation and
it just makes the Broncos already fear some looking defense
look that much more. Fears staying on the defensive side
for number four. First fresh one here for you guys.
How have PJ Locke and Alex Singleton recovered from their

(19:14):
devastating injuries? Already touched on Singleton some with the Drew
Sanders one, but you know, odds are Drew Sanders is
still going to need some time to develop, and again
that's totally fair. He's had a funky start to his
NFL career. He's playing a very mentally taxing position. I
don't think you should want him to have to start
this season, but how big of a role he needs

(19:37):
to play is going to be largely dependent on how
well Alex Singleton's bounced back from injury. You know, Dre
Greenlaw suffered his own injury, but he played last year
for the forty nine ers, and when he was on
the field, he looked like the exact same guy, and
the injury that ended his season shouldn't be one that
hampers him throughout twenty twenty five. Meanwhile, Alex Singleton, being

(19:58):
an older player trying to recover from an ACL tear,
of all things that that can linger, that might be
a problem going forward. You know, how well has he
recovered from that? How well will his lower body hold
up with the wear and tear of another NFL season.
I think those are big question marks we will start
to get in inkling as to you know, at least

(20:19):
how well is Singleton moving out there? Does he still
have the same range and movement skills that he had before?
Not that he was you know, Roe Quant Smith or
Fred Warner flying all around the field, but he you know,
had pretty good range. He was always getting around the ball.
Does he still have that same ability or has he
lost a step? Because I think I would be really

(20:41):
meaningful in a concerning way for this Broncos defense and
Alex Singleton. Singleton and I've I've been harsh on him
as people.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Who have followed me.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
No, I I bring up that you know he's not
the best in coverage and that he misses a large
amount of tackles in the run game. Both of these
things are I think objectively true. I guess the past
game one's more subjective, but the misstackles in the run
game thing is objectively true. He's been top ten in
the NFL among linebackers in terms of mistackle rate in
twenty twenty four and in twenty twenty three. Now, I

(21:13):
think what, I haven't given him enough credit. I bring
that up because I don't think I've given him enough
credit for his ability to always be around the ball,
even if he's not the guy ultimately making the play.
He's the guy missing the tackle. He's forcing the player
to break their stride, he's making contact with them, maybe
slowing them down, some stumbling them, whatever, and it allows

(21:34):
the rest of the defense to rally and finish the play.
Not always, but sometimes it's better than not having the
body there. Right, What if he loses half a step
and all of a sudden he's not in the play
as much, and he's still missing tackles at that rate,
he's just not having as many tackle opportunities, and he's still,
you know, not the best coverage player. But now his

(21:56):
speed is even lack of speed rather is even more apparent.
You know, how big of a problem does that become
for a Broncos defense. There's a thing I don't know
if you've ever seen that, that Penn and Teller show
on TV where they have magicians do tricks and they
try and figure it out. And one thing they've mentioned
on there is like, you can't have a trick that's
too perfect where there's only one way to do it,

(22:19):
because well, then that's the way it was done. And
that's kind of something I'm worrying about within achilles heel
that's starting to form on the Broncos defense. Right. We
feel great about the safeties, feel great about the defensive
line in the pass rush, feel great about the cornerbacks,
feel great about one linebacker spot even but that second one,

(22:39):
and I think every offensive coordinator is going to see
the same thing, and do they just pick at it
and pick at it and pick at it? And we
saw how damaging that was for the Broncos defense down
the stretch last year. Why did the Broncos defense struggle
down the stretch last year? In part injuries, attrition, all that,
but also because when Riley Moss wasn't the same coming
back from injury and Justin Sternaud's flaws started to show,

(22:59):
defense coordinators went, or offensive coordinators rather went, let's just
pick on those two over and over and over again.
You know, is that answer even more obvious this season?
And do offensive coordinators go to it sooner? And maybe
that limits what should be an elite defense. We'll get
an idea of those movement skills in training camp. That's

(23:19):
something you can't really hide, even with the lack of contact.
PJ Locke also in there. He's trying to recover from
a spinal injury. Amazing that he was even playing through this,
but trying to recover from a surgery I guess as
a result of the spinal injury that no NFL player
has ever had before. Now, I think that does sound
scarier than the reality, and I don't want to minimize
what he's going through. It's obviously a serious thing, but

(23:43):
to be optimistic to be a last half full here.
If you watch the Quarterback series on Netflix, you'll note
that the wrist injury Joe Burrow was coming back from
this past season was something no quarterback had ever come
back from before. And then he goes on and has
the best season of his career, and that was already
a pretty high barked clear would have gotten serious MVP

(24:04):
consideration if his defense was half decent. You know, just
because it's an injury we haven't seen before, it doesn't
mean it's a death sentence. He could absolutely recover from this.
We just we don't know. It's literally an unknown seeing
what he does in training camp, is going to be
our first meaningful data point. You know, is he still
the number three safety on this team? Because I feel

(24:25):
great about those first two guys. Defenses more and more
are using three safeties. If you've got Lock in place,
great and it also gives you the depth of Hey,
if Ufanga gets injured, we've got an option who No,
he wasn't a great starter last year, but he's going
to be a better backup player than you know, eighty
ninety percent of the league has. And also if PJ.
Lock isn't ready, who steps up? Is this clearing the

(24:47):
way for JL Skinner, Laryn Turner Yell, who was out
of the picture all of last season with injury. Does
this allow him to get back into the frame? I
think the PJ. Lock injury, which right now one we
don't know anything about, so learning about it is going
to be huge, but also learning what the pictures for
the rest of these safeties. The Broncos have a lot
of young defensive backs. You know, Devon Key I also

(25:09):
is in that room, Kedron Smith. They signed Sam Franklin
Junior as a I mean, the cheaper free agent signing,
but they still went out of their way to add him.
To the roster this year. How do these pieces feed
fit together?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
How do these pieces fit together? Behind TALANOA Hufanga and
Brandon Jones. PJ Lock's health, I think is the biggest
variable in that conversation. And I guess more so, what
version of how much of PJ Lock is still there?
Is he ninety percent the same guy? Is he ninety
five percent the same guy? Is he seventy percent the
same guy? I think that's going to really determine how

(25:42):
that room shakes out.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Number three, This.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Is when Broncos Country is understandably very focused on what
is the state of the Broncos future at wide receiver.
You know, we all know who the top dog is
right now, and that's Courland Sutton. But he's entering a
contract season, and while and Marvin Mims have been promising,
especially last season, I don't think either looks, at least

(26:07):
to this point, like the guy who can carry your
receiving room. You know, the Roncos don't have an embarrassment
of riches right now. They've got a lot of intriguing
depth options. But if you don't have the lead, go
to dude with Courtland Sutton and we can talk about
Valat and Mims is these kind of more complementary pieces.
If all of a sudden you lose that entree and

(26:28):
you're just left with the complimentary pieces, they look a
lot less appealing. So who can step up? Does Pat
Bryant come out of nowhere? And this is not all
that rare that a mid late round receiver steals the
show early, you know, as a rookie or early on
in their career. Can he steal the show and look like, Hey,

(26:48):
I'm the future of this team at X receiver at
the least and maybe the star going forward. Can Marvin
Mims round out his game more as a receiver where
he's not relyingt on this gadget stuff and you know,
he's able to find more success on the outside where
he doesn't have to be hidden in the slot all
the time, And all of a sudden you're like, hey,
Marvin Mims is the future of this team? Is like

(27:09):
kind of the new age Brandon Cooks. He's going to
be the lead receiver Brandon Cooks and that Saint's offense
with Sean Payton and Brian and Valay will be complentary pieces.
Maybe v Las step is it's La stepping up. I
don't that's all that crazy. I think people sleep on
him because of his draft round. But he's a very
high end athlete who showed you just about everything you'd

(27:31):
want to see last season. He just had a slower
start because of injury. Troy Franklin. Of course, he's maybe
the most talented of the bunch. There's just some big
holes in his game, very unreliable hands. The frame is
of a concern. Again, he you know, packs a muscle
on work on the drugs machine a lot, and maybe

(27:51):
realize that talent and maybe he becomes, you know, a
starring future for the Broncos. But I think right now
it feels un likely that Courtland Sutton is on the
Broncos in twenty twenty six. And that's pure speculation. I
don't have any sourcing. It's just right now, it doesn't
feel good. And I think whether or not we're saying
they need to be drafting a receiver round one, or

(28:14):
you know, we're like, hey, they need to add a receiver,
but they've they've got a solid room right now. It's
going to rely so much on you know, not only
how do rookie weapons like Pat Bryan and to a
lesser extent, kayleb blowner show up. But you know, how
do the young guys develop? Does Marvin Mims take the
big leap as a receiver not just like a gadget player. Again,

(28:35):
he took a leap last year, but kind of in
a niche support role. Can he do that as a
more substantial receiver, in a more substantial receiver role, pure
receiving stuff where he's not having to get schemed open?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
And how do we get Wow, this guy's so great
with the ball in his hands.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
How do we create situations where that happens, where hey,
he's an awesome receiver and after he gets the ball
in his watch out, how can he make Can he
make that leap? That would be a game changer for
the Broncos? You know? So I think that you know, again,
all these things are going to become clear once we
get into the regular season, but we're going to start
to get our first answers here in training camp. This

(29:18):
one's obvious number two. I think who emerges at running
neck and who fades into the background. Right, there's four
obvious contenders for the job, six guys in total, and
I might be forgetting one right, you've got Audric Estime
h of why I start there. Let's start at the top.
You've got JK. Dobbins, You've got RJ. Harvey kind of

(29:38):
competing for the line share of the carries. Then you've
got Audrick Esti Majorlia McLoughlin kind of in that next tier,
maybe competing for a roster spoder or maybe some level
of role. And then you've got Tyler Bidet and Blake
Watson as.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
The dark horses.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Some of these guys aren't even going to be on
the practice squad. I doubt they keep six guys in
the picture going into the season. I bet some get
or maybe it's just one, but someone's not gonna be
on even the practice squad come the season. And how
how does that shake up or shakeout? Is R. J.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Harvey emerging as the go to workhorse back?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Does Odrick Estimate show that he's not dead yet and
he's maybe a major contributor. Or does the arrival of
a guy like JK. Dobbins make Estimate a complete afterthought?
And you know, next season we're talking about him as
a potential cut candidate. Julia McLoughlin, right down the stretch,
he was the lead Broncos back. He was getting announced
with the starting lineup alongside Javonte Williams.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
He now seems like maybe.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
He's the fourth guy. Does he even make the roster?
You know, I think there's a good chance he does.
I also think there's a very good chance he doesn't.
So I think that's something you definitely have to monitor,
largely because how good this run game is, I think
is outside of bo Nicks the biggest variable for this
offense in twenty twenty five. That's what held them back

(30:56):
from being truly good offense in twenty twenty four. So
it's going to affect the bon Nicks And how much
of a leap is he ready to take? You know,
can he lean on the run game this year? That's
going to make his job and that much easier in
his like his leap that much more likely. Excuse me
last one here, and I'm having to run through these

(31:19):
last ones kind of quick check out koa Colorado dot com.
In the coming days, I'm going to have an article
coming up diving even deeper into all these topics. Last
one for you all here, Where will Jade Baron play
and what ripple effects is that going to cause? Because
there's a lot of different answers here. Right, there's the
base defense answer. What's he doing on base defense? Is
it cornerback? Is it on the bench? Is it maybe

(31:43):
even safety? I know Sean Pagner or Vance Joseph kind
of poop pooed that idea, thuring OTAs and saying, we
really see Hims a cornerback. But visions change, you know,
but Marvin Mims's role changed tremendously throughout last season. You know,
is he by the training camp seeing some safety looks
because that would allow Hufunga to drop into the box

(32:05):
at linebacker, And now all of a sudden that maybe
helps with some of the Drew Sanders Alex Singleton questions
kind of ties in there.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Right, There's just ripple effects all over the place.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Is he replacing Riley Moss as that starting cornerback opposite
Patser tannin base That creates some interesting ripple effects as
Riley Moss enters the second to last year of his
rookie deal, and then the nickel defense stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Who's he replacing there?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I doubted the safety, but is he replacing Riley Moss there?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Then is Riley Moss competing with ja Kwon McMillan for
Nichols snaps. Riley Moss was viewed by many people coming
out as a guy who could play a lot inside
because of his physicality, because of his intelligence. Because intelligence,
you know, can he have more of that nickel role

(32:57):
and compete with Jake Quan McMillan for that. I think
the most likely thing is you have Moss on the
outside in those Nickel sets and Bear and inside competing
with McMillan. But I also don't think that's cemented. It's
going to be something they work out because Bear in
such a multifaceted player, and they have other dynamic players
in their secondary that can do a lot of different things.

(33:18):
I think it is going to be something they experiment
with on and wherever Baron lands, it's going to cause
ripple effects. If it's nickel, what happens to Jaquon McMillan.
You know, maybe he should They just use him as
a great depth piece. He absolutely has value on the
open market, though, you know, again, you can never have
enough cornerbacks. I know some people are yelling at right now,

(33:38):
but draft capital is also nice, especially as this team's
trying to load up and get going. Jayquan McMillan's in
the last year of his deal. What's doing us more
help here one year of a backup nickel or a
third round pick that's going to be with us for
four or five seasons in the future. I think it's
a really interesting question. Anyways, though, that is going to

(34:03):
do it for this one. We will be back in
just a few moments for some more Broncos Country tonight
talking about the biggest training camp storylines to watch for
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