07-24-24 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Five, six, six, ninezeros of text line obviously, UH opening
day one of sort of training camp, the acclimatization period. UH first day
of pads should be Saturday. Ithink the first day fans can come out
there's Friday, if I'm not mistaken. Of course, you guys gotta have
tickets through ticket Master. They arefree, but you do have to have
the tickets in order to come outthere and watch. Look for to seeing
you guys out there, and thenyou know we're gonna have extended training camp

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coverage out there. Broncos Country tonightwill be UH broadcasting live ten am to
noon on Saturday, additional additional stuffthere. I think Nick's gonna peak his
head in on that, right,Edwards'll peak his head in on that will
be out there. I don't knowif it can be bothered at ten am
on a Saturday. Might still besleeping in who knows? That's me?
Oh that's you. I'll try toput that on me. Wake up.

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It's like, what do what isyour normal wake up time? Just out
of curiosity. As soon as thesun touches my body, so the sun
comes through the yeah, man,So as the sun comes through the six
am person. Oh yes, Igave that up with the military when I
was done the Army. Like that, that was not I ca't helping them
because I have these recurring nightmares,even though I haven't played in almost over

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a decade. Yeah, I havethese, man, I swear, man,
I wake up in the coat sweat, looking around like I'm late.
I used to I honestly, Iused to get that when I got out
of the military. It was probablyfor about a year after I got out
where I would wake up. Imean I still I was getting up later,
but I would still wake up thereI miss I miss pet, I
miss pet formation, you know,and I would be uh, yeah,

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i'd be sweated a little bit.But no, I haven't been like that
in a decade and a half atthis point, Like I'm you know,
I wake up time was like nineam. You know. No, dude,
I'm already up and I'm already up, And that might just be with
my eyes open. I don't rollout of bed for another hour and a
half. Maybe it just depends onon the day or so, Like,
who are you an early riser?You got kids? I try not to

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be see. I tend to believemost people that have kids tend to be
early risers. Just you know,no, that's not not not true because
listening to a cool said he triesbecause okay, you're married. The kids
come in the room usually who whateverparents side of the bed that is nearest
to the door. The kids aregonna come talk first. Hey, I

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want to eat. I want toeat, and I don't know about you
cool Like this begs the question.But my wife would sit there. I
know she she can hear him,because I can hear She's like, I
could out last year. I'm ycomes and I gotta get out. So
like it's a man, You don'tyou sleep closes to the door. You
know what it? Well, itlooks like a protection thing, right,

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it is a protection thing. Butyou know, my wife has this thing
about sleeping on a certain side ofthe bed. But I guess it works
for her because the side I sleepon, the sun peeks in right away.
Oh that's what it is. Yeah, you sleep by the door.
You sleep closer to the door.Bed is pretty close either way, either
either side. You switch on thispretty close to the door. My kids

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are fifteen and sixteen now, sothey're going to sleep in regardless. They're
on they're on the wake up atone thirty in the afternoon plan. Now
yahy uh, well, over thecourse of the summer, that's a teenager,
so Coove has he doesn't have toworry about that. Yeah, so
what is a normal wake up timefor you? Then? Uh, well,
my wife gets up really early,like five thirty six o'clock. I'm
pretty much up when she's See youtry to sleep in and now thirty or

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six every morning. Yeah, that'spretty much the way it works. I
try to sleep in a little longer, especially if she if she'll lay there
and mess around on her iPad,drink some coffee, I'll try to lay
there and sleep a little longer.But it's it's it's difficult at times.
Okay. I was like, man, no, I'm not getting out.
Uh huh, don't don't even trybefore eight am. Don't even try me.
See, see you don't have kids, and like Coo Coove doesn't have

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small kids. I do. Sowhen it's I got to get up and
oh it's it's dark, I needyou to help me. But go to
the bathroom, go get water.We'll get back in train. Cap.
But there's a trade off there,right, because trade off. The trade
off is the old they get,then they'll go to sleep. They're gonna
sleep all day during the summer whenthey're really growing in those teen years,
you know they're going to sleep allday. Yeah, but we're talking about
they're also going to eat you outof house at home. So would you

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rather have you expec the grocery bills? Sleep? But then what you're talking
about, I got to wait anotherseven years for that. Come on,
man, hey, look, I'mjust living my life. Yes, I'm
just living life, living your life. Five six sixty nine zero. You
guys can tell me how inappropriately lateI sleep it. Then if that's the
case. Opening day training camp,there are a couple of observations here or

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there. I think that, uh, they jumped out number one. There's
definitely a competition at the inside backerbetween Cody Barton and Jonas Griffith, where
Griffith is clearly the superior athlete,but Barton has been healthy his whole career.
I think he's got He's a littlemore instinctive guy. Remind you a
little more Josie Jewel than you knowthan anything else. Uh, there's clearly

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a battle there. There's clearly abattle at that other corner position. I
think McMillan's nailed the slot. Ithink that pats are Tan is obviously c
that's cemented, cemented in stone,You're never Yeah, it's as solids it
gets. The other corner position isdefinitely open in terms of where that goes.

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On the offensive side. The centerposition, something we really haven't talked
about a whole lot, seems tohave a competition to it as well.
I think that center position will definitelywork itself out, because here's a great
thing about being the center. Likeyour biggest thing is that you are the
quarterback of the offensive line, butyou are booking by two guards and Quinn
Miners. I mean, obviously yougot the big payday and it was you

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know, duly earned, but atthe same time, that's kind of protection
for you from the center. Nowgoing back to the secondary, to me,
seeing who's going to end up beingthe league dog, is it going
to be Riley Moss or is goingto be Levi Wallace? Right, to
me, that is going to beso vital for the Broncos. And I'll

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say this's been It doesn't make adifference how it all works out. Who
plays opposite Stan they're gonna need thatguy who's number two anyway throughout the season
because so many teams running love andpersonnel, and it would give Vance Joseph
so many ways to attack opposing offenses. That still, nonetheless is going to
be a position battle that everyone needsto keep your eye on. Yeah,

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I mean the battle that everybody asksabout is the quarterback battle. But there
are other battles going on here incamp, and as we look at those,
I think the center one is probablythe one that's the least talked about
that might be the most important.I mean, you look at this line
and how it's invested, and you'vegot powers and minors. As you mentioned,
you got Maclinchy of Bowles, whoapparently you owe something from from two

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years ago to dude, hey,what happens in practical When it happened was
when we when we sit there andtalk. It's like the bubble. You
can't bring that on the air.I didn't say you and Ryan has happened
to be standing right there when whenyou got called out and he's like,

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it's been two years, No,he said four. He said, he
said two, and I told youwas his his kind of addition isn't dog
years. I know about paying offthings late. You know this. I'm
just saying that Martinelli's was a littlelate. No, no, no,
no, that that was a littlelate. That that was like, oh
my god, man, I mean, why I could have died anymore?

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Yes, exactly. That wasn't twoyears late, though, No, it
wasn't. But that's how Garrett looksat it, even though being to be
totally honest, it was like it'sbeen like one season, but in his
mind it's been like that's that's likefour years for a football player. Every
time he sees me, he justlooks at me like this really disgusting look,
Like I can't even look at youright now, Nick, because I'm

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so disappointed. I know, Iwas like, wow, looking through your
soul right now. But another time, I do. I think the center
position is one that's probably the mostimportant outside of the quarterback position. I
mean, yeah, you can makea case of the corner position as well,
but that center position feels like avery important camp battle here to replace

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a good player Loationbury. It is, but you know, there's three different
centers buying for the starting job,and there's three different quarterbacks or dare I
say, two quarterbacks buying for thestarting job. So that's gonna be an
extra rotation in camp. In Champagnonsaid himself, there's gonna be some of

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the rotation to start off things.Every guy's gonna get a chance with the
starting unit. But eventually it's goingto change where you're going to focus on
two guys and those two guys aregoing to get the lion's share of the
reps. So this whole thing withthe center, it's gonna work itself out
because neither guy has as much experienceas Christian Berry had last year, right,

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none of the three. Sam Mustaffordprobably has the most experience, and
you know he I'm going to becharitable here was not very good in Baltimore.
Okay, if you go back andwatch the day that that's your rendition
of being charitable. Yeah, Iwas trading the NICs the nicest way.
Okay, it was an absolute liability. That's not to say you will be

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here, but on that Baltimore line, it was not good. The tape
is not good. Forsyth Wattenberg.I mean, we've seen Wattenburg play little
guard, little center. Nothing's jumpedout at me. To say, hey,
it's a starting offensive lineman in theNFL. I'm kind of more interested
in seeing Alex Forsyth just to kindof see if that happens or if Wattburgh
takes the job. But I expectit'll be one of those two. But

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see, here's the thing with thesecenters. Neither one of these guys are
going to really be pressed until weekone because in the preseason, we know
that every defense is not going toshow everything that they can do. So
that means as though they're not goingto be put in a bond as far
as being able to call out wherethe blitz is coming from. Obviously they
call out the Mike linebacker, butthey're not going to be overrun by pressure

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because most teams don't show a lotof the pressure packages in training camp because
they just want guys to just lineup, go so they can evaluate them.
So I think it's still this wholecompetition at the center position. Ben
I think it's going to go asdeep into the season, like maybe Week
four, because you're still trying tofigure out the chemistry, right which guy

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can do what. And this isa luxury that the Broncos have and Luke
Wattenberg. The fact that he canplay a multitude of different positions. To
me, I give the advantage tohim. I mean, Wattenberg's gonna be
on the rostery the way just becauseof the positional flexibility. I would like
to see Forsyth, who's more ofa natural center, take the job,

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but I don't know that that's necessarilygoing to happen. And again I feel
like that that is the weak linkalong this line. Mcglinchy's got to step
his game up at tackle. Weall know that. But when you look
at at this offensive line, you'vegot talent. I mean, Garrett Bowles
playing this league. Ben Powers canplay in this league. Mcguitche's a starter.
Whatever you think of his performance lastyear, he's a starter in this
league. Might not be necessarily asplay worth the money as fans put it,

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but that's the market rate you payfor a tackle, so that is
what it is. And then ofcourse we all know minors. You know
this is Quinn Miners. The questionis can the center be what you need?
Because we saw at times, eventhough Cushionberry was as talented as he
is, functional strength was an issuesometimes, you know, with him anchoring
and and what teams started to dois they crowded, they sugar the A
gaps and you know, and sendthe pressure up the A gaps and it

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became a problem. But this iswhere it's going to as the Broncos tried
to figure out who's going to bethe starting center to start the season,
this is where Ben Powers and QuinnMinors are going to be huge being able
to help that center out. Butthis is why I give and I understand

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what you're saying about Alex Foresight,but this is why I give Luton Watenberg
somewhat of an advantage because he's playedalong that offensive line and known as though
and you know you have a veryexpensive offensive line, but this will be
the second season they've played together,with the exception of the center position.
But when you have the ability tobe booked in by two other guys outside

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of you, that helps you outbecause you don't have to make all those
calls by yourself. It's going tobe a work in progress where all these
guys are working. And we've heardthat term before Elephants on Parade. The
communication has to be spot on.You know, home games for one,

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right, definitely home games for one, but definitely on the road. But
I still, even with that beingsaid, once again, I have to
at this point, as early firstday of training camp, I give the
vanished to lou Wadenberg Well's and hewas the first leadoff guy as it were.
With those reps. Wlattberg has onehundred and twenty eight reps at center

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in the NFL, eighty five additionalreps on special teams in the NFL.
So that's Pat field goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you
know, so he's and he's playedin what twenty three games? He started
one, but most most of hiswork has been special teams obviously. I
think that uh you know, Imean, you saw Forsyth get a lot

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of starts. I think he startedtwenty eight games in Oregon something like that,
twenty eight games in college. That'sthat's that's pretty good for a second
leete. I don't know. Ijust feel like that might be the most
pivotal battle that nobody's talking about.Well. The only reason I guess no
one's talking about it because the bigstoryline it's always the quarterback, Isn't that

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the storyline? Every single year?It didn't doesn't make a difference who was
the quarterback for the Denver Bronco isgoing into training camp, it's all about
the quarterback. How can this quarterbackget the team over the hum The conversation
is still there and this is whyyou're not talking about that. And for
the sake of Alex ForSight, theone thing that he does have going for

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him is that he's played with bowNicks before, right, That's that's That's
the only thing. I was kindof letting that. I was kind of
letting that hang in the air becauseI was like, I wonder how that
familial connection is going to work out. We saw the Broncos brought in last
year, brought in somebody who hadbeen Russ's, had been a center with
Russ, and we never saw it, right, So I don't know how

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much that is an advantage or not. Well, it's gonna be an advantage
of developed into because there's going tobe a rotation, right, So you
have to figure at some point bothNicks that and Alex Foldsite are going to
be in either a game or practicetogether and they're gonna think, oh man,
this is like you know, ridinga bike, right, you never

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forget how to ride the bike.The only difference is the play calling is
different. You're not dealing with DanLanning's offense and organ anymore. It's it's
a new it's new verbiage, butit's still football. But if they can
rekindle what they had in Oregon,then if bow Nicks becomes the starter and
you Sean pay, you say,well, we want to make sure our
quarterback is as comfortable as he canbe. And if Alex Fortsite is that

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guy, then now you put himin there with bot Nicks. We'll come
back. We're going to talk aboutsomething that's near and dear to Nick Ferguson's
heart, defensive backs. You listento Roncos Country tonight, can't wait.

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Probably you know we'll have another fulllive show tomorrow night as well. Ryan
Michael join us. Then a chanceto go inside the numbers before he goes
on vacation. Five six six nineZeros text line. I wanted to talk
defensive backs because one of the majorcamp battles is with defensive backs. I'll
be it at corner and maybe abit of a surprise to lead off the

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competition today taking the first snaps withthe ones. The Mary mathis I don't
think it's much of surprise, becausewhen you think about the competition of those
three guys to Maori, Robbie Mossand Levi Wallace, the guy who has
the most experienced and who's been inthe longest is to Mary Mathis. So

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sometimes that happens with coaches. Yougive a guy maybe a boost of confidence
on that first day that hey,listen, we still have faith in you.
We haven't lost trust in you,and you've done enough around here where
we can throw you out with thatfirst unit. But here's what we also
know. Just because you go outwith the first team on the first reps

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maybe in the seven h seven orteam period, that doesn't necessarily mean that
that's how things will actually end.Yeah, but it's a great boost of
it's for tomorrow. Mathisshif started veryslow two years ago. You remember that
game, all those flags, hekept drawing the charges game. Yeah,
it was it was rough, buthe got better over the course of that.

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SE's like really really started. Didhe come back for twenty twenty three
and it fell apart again to thepoint where they needed Moreau to be the
starter and Mathis was basically relegated tospecial teams. At the end of the
day. I mean tomorrow. Mathishas played in thirty three games, starting
seventeen of them. Levi Wallace hasplayed in eighty three games over his career,

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starting seventy of them. He hastwelve interceptions for his career. Mathis
has none, don't. I don'twant to leave out Riley Moss, who
really haven't seen a whole lot ofbut he was in that mix as well.
On the outside, really feels likeit's a three man kind of show
right now. That could change overtime. I don't think Trayvon Smith is
a factor there. I think he'sviewed mainly as a special teams guy and

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then the other guys just you know, we barely saw a smattering of him.
Yeah, I would read too muchinto the first couple of days of
this starting rotation because you're going tosee a number of guys. Because right
now, when you look at thisBroncos roster, I'm not saying it is
not the youngest roster in the NFL, but it is a young roster filled

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with unproven guys, I'll say that. And as a coach, you want
to stress your players out because thisis the game that you play in camp,
because you may be with the startinggroup the first three days of training
camp, and then all of asudden on that fourth day they made a
change, and it's like, hey, Ben, we want to see how

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you run with that second group.And as a player, you think,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whatdid I do to get demoted? But
sometimes it may be a slight demotionbased on your production at that time,
but also is to see how BenjaminAarbright actually responds with a group when he
knows that maybe PJ. Lot isnot making all the calls. Can you
go out there and you show thatyou know what to do, you can

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line up, you can go outthere and execute. These are some gonna
have games that are played in campand will play out this camp as well.
Right corner, Benjamin Albright is lookingat his coach, said, no,
Bro'll run with the firt team andnobody at all. Can you sit
you down here, next thing runningwith the first team bench right over there.
That's exactly what it would be.Five six text line. It's a
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seen the website. I've not beenyet. Well, that's the same I
can say about your KaraOK I've heardyou. You know you have heard me.
I've heard you mentioned the fact thatyou would you did overnight celebrities,
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are. I want to get intothe quarterback situation a little bit because you
had an interesting point that you broughtup while we were standing there. You
know, everybody's talking about Bonix andjested him, and of course Sak Wilson's
well, Zach Wilson me need totake on a different mindset in this competition.
Yeah he does. And I knowmost players and most the families of

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players, they want every guy topursue being a starter, something that Zach
Wilson has already done. But II think the best thing for him is
take a position where he's pushing forthe backup role. Right, Because let's
be totally honest, the odds onthat Zach Wilson becomes the starting quarterback of

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the Denver Broncos are very slim.They're more, they're greater that he would
end up being the backup than thestarter. So normally I wouldn't tell any
guy this, but for Zack Settlein that role, and I know it
may sound like I'm dissing him.But no, it's great because when you
are a backup, especially at thequarterback position, no one is really expecting

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much of you. And we've seenthe play out in the NFL so many
times. The backup comes in,he leads a two minute drive and then
now everyone is lifting him off thefields like one of those New Rottney type
of moments, because he definitely excelledin the moment where no one knew exactly
what he was going to be ableto do, even a defense he was
playing against. And here's the otherthing as well, there's nothing wrong with

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being a backup in the NFL,right because you showed that you had to
prepare to understand the playbook and youcan be very reliable and you can play
in the league for a long time. As Chase Daniels. That's what I
was gonna say, Chase Daniel theall time, the all time finesse,
the all time hall of fame hustle. In terms of contract money, man

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made fifty million dollars without having alittle finger. See, I like that
whole idea hall of fame hustle.I like that. But right, I'm
just saying, like Chase Daniel hasa career record of two and three.
I want to okay, a careerrecord of two and three two hundred and
seventy three passes in the NFL overfifteen seasons. Does it say how much
money he made over that time?Perio? Fifty million dollars the fifty There

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you go and see once again,Paris. Just listen to that. I
know it's gonna sound really bad,but everyone wants to have their child be
a starting quarterback. Become a backup. Save the wear and tear on the
body. Yes, still make themoney. You don't have the wear and
tear. You You you invest intoyour four to one k. You play
for a long period of time.Your glory moments is practice and preseason.

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Yeah, Josh Johnson's got this,you know. I mean he's better on
the lead for he's still in Baltimore. Yes, he belongs in the in
the Hustle Hall of Fame, HustleHall and man made twenty million dollars.
Roll with the Hustle Hall of Fame. You know why I'm jealous, because
you get paid. I'm jealous.Put the money in the ball. I'm
saying, yes, bus taste Danielwas hilarious when he was, uh gosh,

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what was it was he with withuh Chicago when they came out here,
uh to do the joint practice.He was with Chicago and he put
on a fake mustache and like awig and that because it was funny because
he was standing there and I waslike, man, Chase Daniel makes me
look tall, and he like,turn around. He's like that, dude,
don't I like that? And hewas like and I was like,
okay, all right, so andhe said come here, so because I
was, you know, film,so, so he went and got this

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fake mustache and this wig and thishe put on this outfit. We over
the rope line and started asking forhis old teammates autographs. No way,
like most of it took him awhile for something like figure it out.
You didn't even recognize him, likeit took a while. I think it
was Javon Whims that it was likeChase, like, what are you doing
that? Because he had like thesunglasses are like this ditca mustache like this,

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this whole like a get up orwhatever. But uh, yeah,
I just thought he was a coolguy because he was like come here,
mare. You know, he's atthat point, he's like thirty two thirty
three years old, messing with histeammates. You know, it was hilarious,
but yeah, but I mean beinga backup quarterback. There is a
mentality that goes with that though,you know, and we've seen that before,
asked Gary Kubiak. You know theclassic example, the guy who was
the backup quarterback and in his caseperhaps going on to become a coach was

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always in the cards. I'll I'llsay, somebody else who fits that,
mole Brett Rippon, you know,Rip Rip Rip is gonna be a coach,
something that we all know if hedoesn't go on a pro golf career,
if exactly if he didn't go toa pro golf career. Uh And
and you know, or stand upcomedy making fun of the titness of my
t shirts, which he did everysingle time he saw me this medium.
Oh man, he would bread wouldstop what he was doing to make fun

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of it, just to call yourmedia, just to call out the snug
factor on on my shirts. Uh. And the worst, the best,
the worst one was when uh,I think our boss day ten, I
think he was pretty new here toKaioa and he was back there running the
he was he's in the tent likerunning the running the yeah, and and
he was chasing it was Brett cameover and then Draymont came out and they

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were both just riffing, all ofthem a riffing on the shirt, the
shoes, like they were just theywere just ripping me up and down.
And he's just sitting I'm like,my boss is sitting behind me right now
while these dudes are just absolutely clowningeverything. That makes it even better.
It was great, It was greatradio. But I'm just sitting there like,
yeah, that's my boss. Isprobably first impression of being alive on
the air. This is this isgood, this is good. But that's

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it. Brett did a great jobof helping other guys study. Brett.
Knew Brett wasn't going to be astarter somewhere, and he's trying to hang
on in the league as much.You can't think he's in Chicago right now
following and Chase his footsteps. Isthat we're making the circuit. But that
that's the thing, Like I thinkthat there is a mentality and a mindset
that goes with that. I'm tryingto set this guy up for success.
I want to be ready if I'mcalled on, but I'm trying to set
this guy up for success. Andthat's what Zach WILSONI. And that was

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even roomors at that time that BrettRippon knew the better than Drew Lot,
that he was actually helping Drew Lot. I will confirm that that was not
a rumor but a real thing.Okay, but this is what happens when
you look at backup quarterbacks, right, your job is to be there just
in case something happened. If not, then hey, listen, you just

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on the roster as a security blanket. But you have to know every nuance
of the game just as well asthe starter is because you never know.
And I would go as far asto say this Ben, the backup quarterback.
The value of a backup quarterback isnot really given. It's just due

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because most people just tell us thebackup quarterback to the side statistically they're gonna
play though and from the two gamesexactly. So to me, there's a
lot of value in the backup quarterbackthat's present, that should be present,
that's not given. Because I don'twant to say that he's the best player
on the field. I don't wantto say that, but I would say

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in certain circumstances, that guy isvery important. Well, and we've we've
seen that. I mean, youknow, Russell Wilson is whatever you think
of it was always a pretty reliableguy and that he was gonna start games.
But we saw instead of got twogames last year, I didn't Russ
miss a game or two hunder Hacketas well. Yeah, I believe so,
I think maybe one. But see, that's where that backup quarterback becomes

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reliable. Just think about really quickly, the Kansas City Chiefs situation. Yeah,
think about think about the Kansas CityChiefs on their playoff and Super Bowl
runs. Patrick Mahomes was injured atcertain times, right, and then the
backup came in kept the offense,maybe not at playing at a high level,

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but it kept the offense on schedule. And that's what you need.
So if you are Zach Wilson,you want to be that guy. And
just so happens if you the startergoes down, you have two games where
you have to start back to backand you play, well, there's our
opportunity. You may play yourself intoan opportunity with another team. But that's
just the glory of being in thatbackup position. Yeah, five six,

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six, nine zeros. The textline, I think that. And the
question here for me is, evenif Zack Wilson adopts that mentality, is
he really the guy? Because isthat what you're in trusting to your quarterback
room? Are you putting Zach Wilsonas the mentor for bow Knicks because that's

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sort of what that role is?Okay, well, well put it this
way. Zach Wilson has started moregames than in the NFL than both Zach
Wilson mind and Jared Sittam. Yeah. Right, So I know it doesn't
seem like ideal because when you lookat Zach, you said, well,
what was his career like with theNew York Jets. There was nothing that

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bow Knicks could actually learn from ZackWilson. And I would say hell to
that, Yes he can, becauseZach has been in that high pressure situation,
being a number one draft pick,everything that Zach went through. And
then once again, we're not talkingabout New York City. Denver, Colorado
is not New York City. That'sa different type of media and I know

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all too well, and they couldbe really griming and they can just really
break you down as a player,and if you're not mature, it's tough
to handle. It's tough to handle. So that's where I feel Zach can
actually be somewhat of a mentor tobow Knicks because he's walked through the same
shoes that Bo is walking through rightnow. No disrespect to Jared Sidham,

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but Jared hasn't been under that pressure. He hasn't bought. Jared has been
around the league a lot longer,but it's not the same. Being around
the league is one thing, butdealing with that first round pressure of being
Boom a bus type of player,Jared has never experienced that. He's never
experienced that. Yeah, I meannot at all. I mean he was
a I think so was he afourth round or fifth rounder? I'm trying

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to remember fourth rounder. I thinkit was New England back in twenty nineteen.
But Jared has also will shat aroundand seen an all time great and
I mean he was behind Tom Bradyin that year and he sort of got
to see the championship mentality and thework ethic first all, band, Ben,
I've seen a lot of movies andI've seen brain surgery in movies.
You are fully qualified to perform brainsurger. No. No, the pressure

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of trying to save life. Iwatched over one hundred episodes of er I'm
facing Okay, George Clooney, Ithink of myself for as a noteily type.
Yes, yes, so that's whereit's different. The pressure is different.
Playing quarterback is the pressure situation allby itself, but being drafted in
the first round with the expectations ofa fan base hoping to become relevant.

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Again, that's an enormous amount ofpressure that I don't think most fans really
think about. Yeah, I mean, did Jared's Do you think Jared's did
have had any of that at alllast year, knowing the way the Russell
Wilson situation was going and what wasgoing to be expected of him, because
at that time there was a lotof things that were going on. But

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no one at that time thought thatJaredston was going to step in at maybe
week four or even week nine andbe the guy. So he never had
that pressure on him. I mean, you know, if it's me,
I tend to, you know,and I tend to think that the organization
wants Monicks to take the job.I think we all know that, right.
It's the spoken unspoken, right,yes. The question then becomes,

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who is the best person to pairhim with? Is that Zach Wilson who
has the best tools of the three. He's the most athletic, he has
the strongest arm by far, hehas, you know, in terms of
tools, he's the guy, butthere's an immaturity and an inability to put
it all together thus far. Andthen you've got Jared Stidham, who's you
know, with all due respect toJared Stidham, he's Teddy Bridgewater two point

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zero. You know, I'm gonnatake what you give me. I don't
really have the ability to push theball and drive it down the field with
consistency, right, you know,regularly I'm not especially athletic. I could.
I have a little bit of footspeed and I can get away at
times, but I'm not a speciallyathletic. You know, who becomes the
guy to pair that with? Onceagain, it all, it all depends,
and that's going to be I guessanother dynamic that has to work itself

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out this training camp because for me, I don't believe that you can totally
dismiss whatever you think about Zach Wilsonas a quarterback in this league. You
can't dismiss that experience and just say, okay, well, well he didn't
perform well, so there's nothing thathe can teach you know, Bo Nicks.
And I'm like, yes he can. And even if we've seen the
pressure on Bo Nicks and we haven'teven really got into the depth of training

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camp because it's like, well,if Jared Stidam is a starting quarterback,
then what does that say about BoKnicks. That's a lot of pressure.
You're not getting that with Alex Foresightand Luke Wattenberg. It's not that type
of pressure. Well, right,because no matter who wins that job,
the focal point isn't going to beon them anyway unless they're just abnormally giving
up pressure up the middle. Yes, you know, constantly dropped into the

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lap of uh you know, ofwhoever is playing quarterback. When we come
back, we're gonna talk with ParkerGabriel see what his thoughts on training camp
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