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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been all bright alongside Nick Ferguson and Zach seekers
(00:03):
since some kind words coming in on the Common Spirit
Health text line at five six, six nine zero from
the seven to one nine this is the all star
lineup for bcet Nick and Grant with Zach as producer.
Loved the positivity and banter. Hell yeah, thank you Texter.
But obviously we miss Ben as well, and hopefully he's
doing okay and I'm sure he'll be.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Back sooner rather than later. Miss Ben, well, you know,
I do kind of like sitting in the big chair.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Also on the Common Spirit Health text line two one four,
I do not know how valuable it it was that
that he meaning bo Nix met with Drew Brees, I
mean Drew Locke spent time with Peyton Manning. I think
it's good to do, but I don't think the impact
is really as significant as people will make it out
to be.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Once again, Drew Lock and Peyton Manning, they didn't play.
I believe in the same system, right, So that's where
it's it's a little different. And then the drive that
Peyton had as a player was not equivalent to that
of the drive that you would hold that Drew Locke
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actually had so for me, I think this is the
best thing and we'll get a change. The great thing
about it, we'll get a chance to see it play
out this season, and I'm interesting to see what Parker
Gabril thinks about.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, let's ask Parker Gabrie on next.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Our next guest from the Denver Post covers the Broncos
for them heading out to the ka Common Spirit Health Hotline.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Parker, how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Man? I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
It's such an honor to be on a radio program
with you know, renowned Broncos insider Grant Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Parker coming at me with his usual style.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Parker, you were out at trading camp the last couple
of days. What were some of your takeaways from day two?
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Yeah, you know, fully acclimated now and ready to go
full full length tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
No, I mean it's been good.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I think like there's mostly it's broad strokes at this
point right because there's no pads and hitting yet. That'll
ramp up in the coming days. The thing that I
keep thinking watching just in general is like a obviously
there are things that can that can derail any team,
any unit, but like the defense should just.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
I mean, the expectations are so high.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
And yet when you watch them play, even when it's
not you know, tackling, even when it's not even it's
not live, you can just tell already the sort of
standard that that has been set there.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
And also just I mean that they've.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Just got depth at every position, and so that is going.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
To be a group.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Obviously, it's going to be I think an enjoyable watch
for fans, and obviously, you know, interesting the track over
the course of camp, and then just generally, like I'm
sure there will be surprises, because there are always surprises,
but there are just a lot of known quantities on
this team, Like we don't know exactly what the receiver
rotation will look like, or what the running back rotation
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will look like.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
They've got some options.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
At corner, but I would side of that, like you know,
injuries are really the only thing that you can foresee
like forcing this team's hand in terms of competition for jobs,
because there's just a lot of returning, proven players and
that's obviously a really good spot to be in from
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a roster standpoint.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Right now, Parker, when you were coming in, there was
a Texter who was thinking that. I mean, there's not
going to be a significant changes to with bo No
linking up with Drew Brees because it didn't work out
with Drew Locke and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What do you stand on it?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Do you think that there there are some pros to
bo Nick's reaching out to Drew Brees on his own totally?
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Yeah, And I fully agree with you Nick on the
fact that like the system thing matters, Like the whole
point is not just because Drew Brees is the future
Hall of Famer. It's because he played in this system
for fifteen years and he like takes Sean Paten out
of the equation, and like the people who know this
system the best on the planet. You know, Drew Brees
probably top of the list. Joe Lombardi's up there too,
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He's been in it, you know, he's coached for a
dozen years, but like nobody has played it and operated
it and been at the controls of it like Drew Brees. Frankly,
like not that many guys have been in control of
it at all besides Drew Brees.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
So he's like the he's like the.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Sense on on this offense. And that doesn't mean like
that it's going to revolutionize bow Nick's game.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
But you could, I bet you.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I bet you have Bo Nicks and Drew Brees watched
film together. There's just things that they can talk about.
Things that you know.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Questions that bow Knicks can ask Drew Brees that like.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
You just can't ask very many people on the planet.
So like that make a huge difference. I don't know,
but I don't think it can hurt. The other thing
that I think is interesting about it, like Davis Webb
told me last summer that when Bo got drafted, he
gave him this packet, and part of the packet was,
you know, Davis Webb spent a lot of time with
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Patrick Mahomes and and Josh.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Allen, and he had given him sort.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Of like he gave both a framework for.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Those guys off season. How the weeks go, When do
you fit in vacation, how do you do this?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Where do you train? How long do you not throw?
For all this stuff?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
And so like having another person to go through that
kind of.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Stuff with and just bounce ideas off.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Of, like how you know, how do I structure my
off season?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
What do I do?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
What do I not do?
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Like all of that is not what you think of
maybe as like a general fan or observer, but like
it matters to these guys because it's their time and
it's their off season.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
So to me, like all of that stuff means.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
Like might not pay huge evidences, but like I don't
see how it could hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Talking with Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post and sticking
with bo here for another minute, he was just ranked
number sixty four on the NFL Top one hundred list,
voted on by his peers in the NFL after such
a successful year one, I mean, how high is he
going to be ranked after this year? Are we thinking
too soon? Is there going to be a sophomore slump?
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Or do you think he continues to progress in this offense?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah, well I was shown about sophomore slumps the yesterday,
and he doesn't believe in him.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
So that's one part of the equation. I don't know,
you know, I thought, I mean, I far be.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
It for me is that the players know the best.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Obviously, I was a little surprised that Bonnicks was ranked
that high in the top one hundred, and not like.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Not because I doubted it.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
I mean I watched every game he played, last year.
I was thinking I was there for every game he
played last year, Like, I know that he played really well.
I just I think there's a little bit more to prove.
I'm sure he would probably say the same thing. So
I don't know, upper down from sixty four next year, that's.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
A great question.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
I don't know, maybe down slightly, but obviously if they
have a good year. You know, quarterbacks, quarterbacks sell and quarterbacks,
you know, Garner a lot of attention and all of that,
so could certainly be higher.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I just think like there's a lot.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Of expectation on bow Knicks to make this sort of
like quantum leap into the upper echelon, and I you know, I.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Bet you he would say, yeah, I mean, I want
all the.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Expectations, but like I just I think.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Maybe it's pushing a little too far, a little too fast.
But looking like he could prove that wrong, and like
that if he did, that would obviously be great.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
For the Broncos and for Broncos fans.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So we know that.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I think it's October and it's a game against the Giants.
I believe that d Marius Thomas is going into the
Broncos ring of frame as a foaming yellow jacket. I'm
happy for that, But I have to ask you, as
a guy that covered the team for a long period
of time, and I'm sure that you have your own perspective,
what player that's not into the in the Ring of
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Fame right now that should be in the Broncos Ring
of Fame.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I'm not even yeah, I'm not sure that I have a.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Great answer to it.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
I mean, DT obviously is more than deserving and going
in on the first year I think is a really
good honor for him.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Think, to me, like there's a couple of interesting cases,
like a keep believe, like the impact and the program.
Just what is undeniable now it's more about longevity. You've
got the you know, I think it's four years normally.
I think he played right at the minimum. So he's
a guy who like played merit merits it, but then
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like longevity, that's sort of like the only question there,
like with the Broncos not in the NFL obviously, So
there's a bunch of candidates that, you know, I think
you can make a case are deserving.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
The interesting thing to me is, you know, there was.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
A stretch there for maybe eight or ten years before
the Walton Penner ownership group bought the team in twenty
twenty two, where I think, you know, there are a
bunch I don't remember the number off the top of
my head, but there's maybe twenty that went in in
a ten year span or something like that, more than
double the size of the Ring of Fame. And so
I think it's been a clear priority, that priority. But
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I think the committee, the way it's structured now has
sort of taken the approach of like, let's maybe slow
down the rate of entry. There's plenty of time, it's
a legacy thing, you know, it's slow down the rate
of entry and make sure that the people that are
getting in now are just truly no doubters. And so
you know, you would know better than me, Nick on
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other deserving candidates.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
But I think like there's.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
A couple of interesting cases, and I also think it's
going to be.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Harder than ever for the next few years to actually.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Get that call from that committee.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, you know what, here are a couple I toss
out to you. You tell me which guys more likely,
because I don't want to say more deserved, because each
guy is deserving. But I'll toss ou An McCaffrey, I'll
toss ou Al Wilson, Right, I'll toss out Trevor Price.
Now I gave you three guys, three guys of which
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i've played for I think are all deservant. But just
to say, if you were part of the committee and
you went in the room and they were talking about
guys of the three guys that I just mentioned, Parker Gabriel,
who would you pound the table for?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Hey, you put me on the spot.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
I mean, they're all really good players, right, I mean
Al Wilson, I think you could, you know, you can
make a great case for any of them.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Maybe maybe I would go to him.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Obviously, you know, multiple hundred tackle seasons.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I think he spent his whole career.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Right with Denver, so he's got those things going For McCaffrey,
you know, has got longevity and obviously a good long
run in Denver, even though he played for other teams too.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
So, boy, that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
I'd have trouble ordering him one to three. I don't
know that you can go wrong with any of them.
But but give me out Wilson.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
How you feel about that?
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Nick?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm fine with that, you know what. To be totally honest,
I'm gonna be fine with any guy.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I thought he was gonna give us option and go
with Nick Ferguson and the Broncos, right, Frank Listen, I
thought that was.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Going un said, like, you know, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Would I would never do that.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
All three of those players are very deservant and I
hope they all they all get in all fabs.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But just to prove a point as to.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
How difficult it is to vote on guys, because that's
a great thing about playing here is that there's been
so many great guys that come through this organization, which
makes it tough to figure.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Out which guy's going in every single year.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Exactly, Parker.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You going from Broncos that have made a name for
themselves already to maybe some up and comers. Who's a
draft pick that you like from this year or maybe
a UDFA that you really think is going to make
an impact on this team sooner rather than later.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, that's your question.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I mean, I like a couple of the day three
you guys have just like have done some nice things
so far. Now, the thing like, and I'm thinking in
particular of Q Robinson and and Caleb Blowner. The thing
about both of them is like they both play extremely
physical positions. Obviously qu Robinson, you know, on the edge
and then kill Blunder at tight end. So you really
don't get much of a read, you know, until you've
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got like a couple of weeks in pads. The thing
about Loner that I like, and I don't know that
it will be this year, maybe you don't count anything out,
Like there's just he does stuff that he did, the
natural athleticism, Like there's just stuff that looks easy, and
I don't I don't think you would watch him at
a practice and go like that's the guy that only
played fifty snaps of college football.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Obviously he's raw.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Obviously he's got a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
To work on, an element of his game to refine.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
And you want to see him sort of figure out
his own coverage and do all of that. Like you
just don't really had a chance to see that much
at full speed yet.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
So he's the guy that's interesting track qu Robinson.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I mean, he's not the he's not the biggest, Like
he's long.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
And he's rangy.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
He's not the you know.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
He's not the stoutest of their edge guys, and so
you want to see how he plays the run when
the pads are on and in the preseason and all
of that.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But he's pretty consistently in.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
The backfield and has caused a lot of havoc and
all that for what it's.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Been so far.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Right, So those two guys, I'm just like, I'm not
ready to proclaim yes they're dudes yet, but you're sort
of interest is piece by them.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
And then I mean, Joaquin Davis is a big He's
a six to four receiver who ran.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Four three six and in a you know, an all
start setting after the season, and.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
So you just can't teach yet what it is them. Again,
he's raw and it's gonna be tough to make.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
The fifty three at receiver obviously, but he sort of
has that like early on and it's really early, but.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
He sort of has that like practice squad stash and
see where he's at a year from now kind of
feel to him.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Now, Patrick, the Broncos have historically had great play at
the safety position and they've often had a duo it's
tandem at that position.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Now with Brendon Jones from.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Fonga, how good Could this tandem be the season for
the Broncos defense?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I mean it makes sense Nick that we're talking about
the long lineage of great safety.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You knew that question.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
I mean they have a chance to be really good, right,
I mean they're sort of interchangeable. I think like they
were obviously right. You know that they gave Brandon Jones,
I think what.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Twenty two million over three years.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Before last year, he'd been sort of a part time
player in.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Miami and he just graded out really well.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
The analytics said he played really well all of that,
and so like that's a great find. And then you
add Infonga, who like, if he stays healthy, he's an
impact player and all of that. And I think they
compliment each other pretty well. You know, Brandon Jhonson do
a little bit of everything. Whufonga. You know, I thought
Vance Joseph had a great quote in June when he said,
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you just don't want to tie him down with too
much nonsense, meaning don't you know, don't give him all
this half field responsibility, don't give him a lot of
information to sit through.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Not that he's not smart, he is, but you want him.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
To be the heat seeking.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Missile from the back end, and.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
You know that's that's Joseph, that's sort of his calling card.
He's good at taking skill sets and maximizing them. And
so you sort of figure that. You know, they'll deploy
those guys in a lot of different ways. They can
do that, but end of the day, like you want
Hufanga running to the football, tackling the football, making plays
on the ball, and I think they'll you know, I mean,
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Vance basically said the idea is to structure the defense
so that he can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Parker, we got about thirty seconds here left. I am
oh for one on the night for asking for this request,
but we saw hal Cogan passed away earlier today at
seventy one years old. Can you give us your best
hull Coguan impression?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I can't.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I wish that I could, but I can't.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
I don't even I wouldn't even know how to start it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Why don't you do it, Grant?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
I mean it seems like you're child.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Hey, brother, give us a home coching impression. Come on, Parker,
you can do it, brother.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
That was pretty good. Why do we leave it at that?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post was seat of campsu Man.
Oh see guys, Thanks Man, Parker Gabriel Denver Post. We'll
be back on Broncos Country to night in just a
couple of minutes with the six biggest storylines to watch
at Broncos training Camp that coming up in just a
couple of minutes on Broncos Country, A night on Kawa
A fifty ninety four to one FM Under the Weather
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and here with Nick Ferguson and Zach Seegers thanks to
romy Bean and Parker Gabriel joining us in the previous segments. Nick,
you wanted to hit on something that you found out.
We were talking about Bo, Nick's meeting up with Drew
Brees and the off seas and to do some training,
and you did a little digging on the interwebs and
found out something pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, and you know, keep this in mind.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Obviously we're talking about Drew Brees in his six sies
and opposed to Knicks in his first season. But I
thought this is the coalition between the statistical data was
really interesting because we're looking at how bo is to
succeed in Sean Payton's offense, and all you have to
do is just kind of look to the past. And
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past performance don't predict things that are going to happen
in the future, but it gives you somewhat of an idea.
So once again, keep in mind, we're talking about Breeze
in sixteen games and bow in seventeen games. And I said, well,
when when you look at breeze completions right, three fifty
six to Bow's three seventy six, completion percentage sixty four
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for Breeze, sixty six point three for Bow, knicks a
number of attempts five hundred and fifty four for Drew Brees,
five fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
For bow nov most identical.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
All right, So sachs Breeze eighteen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Now keep in mind this is in Breeze's first year
in Sean Payton's off so he was sacks eighteen times
Bow twenty four.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Now here's where he gets interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Breeze was twenty six and eleven touchdown interception ratio Bow
twenty nine to twelve.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Right, And you think just that one extra game in
the regular season is really all that's separating those numbers.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Right, But obviously when you look at the yards thrown
in between the two quarterbacks significantly different. I think Breeze
average about eight yards or throw and I think bow.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Is like at six something like that. But my whole point.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Was that looking at that statistical data, I was like, well,
it's telling me that Bau was severely ahead of where
he should have been as a rookie in Sean Payton's offense.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think that's why Sean Payton liked him so much, right,
I mean that story that was just all over the
place last year when they met with him before the
draft and they gave him a playbook and the next
day he was reciting the plays back to Sean. I mean,
that's the kind of quarterback that Sean Payton needs in
his offense.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think the similarities to Drew were there, you know,
just being a pocket passer. But then the thing that
kind of transcend whatever Breeze could have ever or Champagne
would could have ever dreamt of with Drew Brees was
the fact that Bo's mobile.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah. That's such an added element, man, and an.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Added element that some coaches typically don't gravitate to.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It don't like.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
And the reason they don't is because when you've had
a guy who stayed between the tackles and as he's
thrown the ball, between the tackles, because whether he has
the ability to run it or doesn't, that means or
translate to those offensive coordinators that he's going to stick
with the play and do what I want.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Him to do. Right, But I can.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Tell you and it's not well the modern day NFL.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
No, the idea is, if your quarterback has a unique
skill set, you nurture that, you encourage that, because that's
how you change the game. And just so happens some
of the mordern day quarterbacks, they know how to move
and they can throw on the run. Your favorite quarterback
came That's the thing that makes him very difficult to
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defend because you may defend the route, but.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You haven't defended the quarterback. Right. That's where the game change.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
And now you're talking about we got to add a
spy or how do we stop this guy from moving
with the ball. And I can tell you being in coverage.
Once that quarterback breaks the pocket, the first thing you go,
you say, well, I've covered him long enough, let me
take a peek.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And that's when he gets especially you know you mentioned
Joe Burrow and he has such a great relationship with
Higgins and Jamar Chase that they can know what the
next guy is going to do when a play does
break down, so you know, Joe only needs to look
a certain way and then t or Jamar knows what
he wants them to do, and then that's how they
get those huge plays after the play breaks down. And
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I think that's what we're gonna see. That's the beauty
of the continuity with bo Nix coming into year two
with guys like Courtland Sutton and Marvin Mims, that's only.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Going to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That relationship, that unspoken, just the look like Aaron Rodgers
and DeVante Adams had for so long, where they know
what they want to do without even having to say anything.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
See, that's where I would like to see the chemistry
between the quarterback and the Broncos wilde receiver group actually
develop more. Because it's one thing to run a hitch
rout that means you run up five yards or eight
yards and turn around and flash your hands and your numbers.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well what happens once.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You see that quarterback on the scramm or you know
your quarterback is mobile, so there's a chance sixty percent
chance he's gonna break contain?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Did you stand there still flashing your hands like a
Krispy Kreme yonside, or.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You've run your ass up, feel right, And that's what
I would like to see. And that's kind of the
thing that Russell was able to do with his wide receivers.
You know, back in the Dan Seattle you mentioned Devonte
Adams and Aaron Rodgers. See, that's the evolution that I'm
looking to see in this Broncos offense.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Can the quarterback and wide receivers get on that page?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And is that something you can really practice like in
training camp when you're doing your team drills or is
that something more that just comes with with actual gameplay.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
No, you have to practice that.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I mean you can't get to the game and go okay,
well I want you to go no, no, no, no, no.
It's kind of too late at that point, but you
because you have to start develop that chemistry. Like you've
been married for a while now, you know in your marriage,
you kind of know what your wife is going to
do or how she would handle certain situations, what.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
She expects you to do without saying anything.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Without See, that's where the best communication comes in.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Well, I don't have to say it, you are already
know because.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Just like, let's just say you were outside and you
were being caught in the sun for a moment and
then bow happens to look at you.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
You know that you have a go route on. Well,
what he seems is.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
That maybe you know, the corner is playing a little off,
or the corner was nicked up on the.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Previous play, so he may just kind of look at you.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
He may flash your hand signal or not, and you go, okay,
well I know him to do this.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Guy, little helmets happened.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, stretching your helpet or something like that. It's something
that you work on it. And that's the thing that
made Peyton Manning so great as a quarterback. It's like
a being a comedian. Can you improv and can you
improv to perfection under pressure?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, that's the thing, and that's what Peyton did so well.
He did so well, and that's what hopefully we're going
to see from bow Nicks. I mean, we saw it
in plenty of games last year. I thought this that
speaking of continuity and getting on the same page and
just how helpful it is.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
This blew my mind. I saw this the other day.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Bo Nicks and Sean Payton are the first Broncos QB
coach duo to return since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Isn't that wild?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Like we haven't had the same quarterback and head coach
for back to back years since Peyton Manning was here.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's over a decade.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I mean, it just seemed like, you know, everybody go
to a meat market and have that now servings, you got.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
To pull the tag.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Number ninety seven, Damn it would be here wild.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know what, That's great because now this is metaphor
of the speaking. It's almost like the Broncos had a
turnstile quarterbacks over here, coaches over here. Now they basically
taking that turnstile and throwing it in the trash heat, right,
because now you figure, okay, well you got your quarterback
of the future, you have your your head coach for
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the next three four years hopefully hopefully, and let's see
what happens with this. And this is why it's exciting.
And so many people are excited because they saw what
happened with Drew Brees's numbers and they're saying, okay, well
can we predict or project the same thing?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Could it happen with bow?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
This is why I say this, Sean Payton spent a
lot of his time focusing on the defensive side of
the ball, right because he knows if he wants to
win in this division, they gotta score points or they
have to stop.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Some people too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, one of those defenders newly added to the team, Tallanoahufunga,
known as Huff, out there at the Broncos training facility,
talked a little bit about bow Nicks and this is
what he had to say today.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
First and foremost, I think he's just a smart player.
But then it's like, Okay, you get on the field
and you see how accurate he is, what kind of
arm he has. I think that kind of especially the
first day, Ota is like first ball was over everybody's
head and I was like, wow, like you have to
be you have to comfort those.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Kinds of things.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
And not every game that you play in the NFL,
you're going to play quarterback that can launch it that far.
And so for him, he has that ability to just
get it over the defense head and so that changes
your perspective on how to play him. And so far
to see it as a teammate that he is a
great person, great player, and just seeing eye handles himself
in the locker room, in the cafeteria and all that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I'm excited to play with him.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, it seems like everyone's excited to play with bo
and they're getting the opportunity now that Broncos training camp
has started. And our guy, Zach Seegers, hosted a great
article up to the Kowa Colorado dot com website, Six
biggest storylines to watch it Broncos training camp.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We can go through all six here quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Number six on the list heard Parker Gabriel talking about
him earlier. How raw is Caleb Blohner? Zach, what did
you have to say about this?
Speaker 9 (26:48):
You know, I just think the upside there is tantwise,
and you know that's why the Broncos took him in
the draft, even despite how raw he or how how limited.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
His football resume is.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
I should say, right, and just you know, can you
get him on the field right now for some red
zone packages kind of like how we've talked about Travis
Hunter maybe being in some offensive packages for the Jaguars
or whatever. Is he far enough along in his development
that you can use him in these little spots here
or there, or is he going to just be kind
of an afterthought until twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven.
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I think that's something we can start to get a
bit of a read at or read on during camp.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean I think with his size, I mean,
why not throw in some red zone pack just for
him getting eight at cans out of there a little more.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Maybe keep him in the.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Backfield and have two options for those red zone downs.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's the thing. You see him during his time at Utah.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
There's reps where he's literally unguardable, specifically against Colorado, and
he's going against the guy who's going to get drafted
on the first two days of the draft in this
upcoming cycle. I just there's I think maybe enough there
that you could tap into it this year.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But also he's been playing.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
He's got two years of football or sorry one going
on two years of football experience since he graduated middle school.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Number five on your six Biggest storylines? Can Q Robinson
build on his stellar ota showing Nick you've been out
of a couple practice what practices. What have you seen
from Q Robinson so far?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Well, you know, obviously when you first see him, you're
impressed by its phasique, how large he is, and what
I mean by that from a height standpoint and long
it's almost like a basketball power forward, if you will,
And when you see yes, kind of the same thing,
because you have to think about when it comes to
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edge rushers and tight ends, you're looking for lent and
guys who are athletics.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So it's interesting were talking about these two guys. Uh.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
And for me, I'm still waiting to see little more
from from Q. And the reason I'm saying that is
because it's hard to gauge a guy's ability on the
pro level when you're only in shorts. So for me,
it's next week when the pads come on, you'll be
able to tell more. Because right now, those offensive linemen
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that you're rushing against, they can't really get their hands
on you, and see, they want to be able to
get their hands on you, get their hands on that breastplate.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And the.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Life right.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
So once we get to that point, then I'll be
able to see because now we're talking about the long arm,
which what I mean by that is being able to
rush off the edge and use either your right or
left arm, depending on the side you're rushing, and stick
that arm and the chest plate of an offensive lineman
and get him off balance. And then one move I
love by Baun used to use this all the time.
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It was a ghost move where you go like you're
going to stick the long arm, and then as soon
as a guy goes to punch, you take it away
and you just kind of a low waist spend and
get around him. And then of course it's a cross
shop right the Marcus where it was famous for using
the cross shop, and you get a guy off balance
and boom, right next thing you know, you had the
depth of the quarterback, but you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Can't hit him. In practice though, to be fair practice.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Nobody can bend like von Miller would bend around the
edge Like that's just a freaking nature.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You can't teach that.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
No, it's something that you have to inherently have in you,
because it's like are you do you been at the
hips or you been at the knees And some guys
are a little different. So depending on your level of flexibility,
it changes how you're able to rush to pass it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, and ke Robinson certainly has plenty of athleticism. Not
trying to put him in the von Miller category yet,
but hopefully we'll see some highlights from him this season
Number four on Zach Seagers article up at Koacolorado dot com.
How have PJ Lock Alex Singleton recovered from devastating injuries?
We know, uh Seeker's not a fan of older players
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in the NFL, but PJ Lock still young, but it's
coming back from a devastating back injury that no one
has ever come back and played for in the NFL. Again, Seegers,
what did you have to say about this?
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Well, I think these are two guys in pretty shallow positions,
maybe the most shallow positions on the roster, and as
you outline, they're coming back from very extensive and PJ
Lock's case, unprecedented injuries things we just haven't seen, or
in his case, the thing we haven't seen in the
NFL before. In the Alex Singleton's case, it's just hard
to come back from an ACL tear at thirty two.
And they should both have pretty large roles in this
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Broncos defense, you know, even though Lock's not one of
those top two safeties now, both Jones and Hufanga have
injury history. So I think how reliable Lock and Singleton
are looking out there and how well they're moving.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's going to be really important to key on on Nick.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
How do you balance it as a player, when to
come back and when to know that you need to
sit out a little bit longer.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
That all depends on you as a player, because what's
your paying tolerance, what's that threshold?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Are you injured or are you hurt?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Well, for me, they were one and the same. The
idea was that you push through it mentally. This is
where your mental toughness comes from, because here's what we know,
and here's what I know as a player.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
The moment you start.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Training camp, practice, I mean, you're going through from that
preseason to the end, and you hope, hope that it's
a deep playoff run. So if you get nicked up,
guess what, you're dealing with it for the entire season.
So you hope that it's something that you can push through.
But if it's something that you can't, you do your
damnness to push through. Now you're talking about PJ locking
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is back. I mean, this is excellent opportunity for Jail Skinner.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Dave forgotten see.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And that's why I brought it up.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I mean I staged young Seer was going to bring
it up but no, it's Jail Skinner has a perfect opportunity.
Can't he push his way into the starting lineup. I
don't know, because you got too proven safeties in front
of you. But we know long seasons injuries happen. So
are you ready to go from being a guy contributing
on special teams to now taking that same step that
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p Lot to it, because now a lot went from
special teams to starting back.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's a special team.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
But you never know when your number is going to
be called, and you've got to be ready. We'll go
through the top three of Broncos training camp headlines when
we come back from the break, as well as check
in with bre Mestis. If you want to give us
your biggest storylines for Broncos training camp, shoot us a
text on the Common Spirit Health text line five six
six nine zero. But we'll be back on Broncos Country
tonight with bre Meistis in just a couple of minutes
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on KOAA fifty am ninety four to one FM.
It's been all bright alongside Nick Ferguson and Zach seekers
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since some kind words coming in on the Common Spirit
Health text line at five six, six nine zero from
the seven to one nine this is the all star
lineup for bcet Nick and Grant with Zach as producer.
Loved the positivity and banter. Hell yeah, thank you Texter.
But obviously we miss Ben as well, and hopefully he's
doing okay and I'm sure he'll be.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Back sooner rather than later. Miss Ben, well, you know,
I do kind of like sitting in the big chair.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Also on the Common Spirit Health text line two one four,
I do not know how valuable it it was that
that he meaning bo Nix met with Drew Brees, I
mean Drew Locke spent time with Peyton Manning. I think
it's good to do, but I don't think the impact
is really as significant as people will make it out
to be.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Once again, Drew Lock and Peyton Manning, they didn't play.
I believe in the same system, right, So that's where
it's it's a little different. And then the drive that
Peyton had as a player was not equivalent to that
of the drive that you would hold that Drew Locke
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actually had so for me, I think this is the
best thing and we'll get a change. The great thing
about it, we'll get a chance to see it play
out this season, and I'm interesting to see what Parker
Gabril thinks about.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, let's ask Parker Gabrie on next.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Our next guest from the Denver Post covers the Broncos
for them heading out to the ka Common Spirit Health Hotline.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Parker, how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Man? I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
It's such an honor to be on a radio program
with you know, renowned Broncos insider Grant Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Parker coming at me with his usual style.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Parker, you were out at trading camp the last couple
of days. What were some of your takeaways from day two?
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Yeah, you know, fully acclimated now and ready to go
full full length tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
No, I mean it's been good.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I think like there's mostly it's broad strokes at this
point right because there's no pads and hitting yet. That'll
ramp up in the coming days. The thing that I
keep thinking watching just in general is like a obviously
there are things that can that can derail any team,
any unit, but like the defense should just.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
I mean, the expectations are so high.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
And yet when you watch them play, even when it's
not you know, tackling, even when it's not even it's
not live, you can just tell already the sort of
standard that that has been set there.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
And also just I mean that they've.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Just got depth at every position, and so that is going.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
To be a group.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Obviously, it's going to be I think an enjoyable watch
for fans, and obviously, you know, interesting the track over
the course of camp, and then just generally, like I'm
sure there will be surprises, because there are always surprises,
but there are just a lot of known quantities on
this team, Like we don't know exactly what the receiver
rotation will look like, or what the running back rotation
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will look like.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
They've got some options.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
At corner, but I would side of that, like you know,
injuries are really the only thing that you can foresee
like forcing this team's hand in terms of competition for jobs,
because there's just a lot of returning, proven players and
that's obviously a really good spot to be in from
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a roster standpoint.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Right now, Parker, when you were coming in, there was
a Texter who was thinking that. I mean, there's not
going to be a significant changes to with bo No
linking up with Drew Brees because it didn't work out
with Drew Locke and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What do you stand on it?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Do you think that there there are some pros to
bo Nick's reaching out to Drew Brees on his own totally?
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Yeah, And I fully agree with you Nick on the
fact that like the system thing matters, Like the whole
point is not just because Drew Brees is the future
Hall of Famer. It's because he played in this system
for fifteen years and he like takes Sean Paten out
of the equation, and like the people who know this
system the best on the planet. You know, Drew Brees
probably top of the list. Joe Lombardi's up there too,
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He's been in it, you know, he's coached for a
dozen years, but like nobody has played it and operated
it and been at the controls of it like Drew Brees. Frankly,
like not that many guys have been in control of
it at all besides Drew Brees.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
So he's like the he's like the.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Sense on on this offense. And that doesn't mean like
that it's going to revolutionize bow Nick's game.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
But you could, I bet you.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I bet you have Bo Nicks and Drew Brees watched
film together. There's just things that they can talk about.
Things that you know.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Questions that bow Knicks can ask Drew Brees that like.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
You just can't ask very many people on the planet.
So like that make a huge difference. I don't know,
but I don't think it can hurt. The other thing
that I think is interesting about it, like Davis Webb
told me last summer that when Bo got drafted, he
gave him this packet, and part of the packet was,
you know, Davis Webb spent a lot of time with
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Patrick Mahomes and and Josh.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Allen, and he had given him sort.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Of like he gave both a framework for.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Those guys off season. How the weeks go, When do
you fit in vacation, how do you do this?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Where do you train? How long do you not throw?
For all this stuff?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
And so like having another person to go through that
kind of.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Stuff with and just bounce ideas off.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Of, like how you know, how do I structure my
off season?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
What do I do?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
What do I not do?
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Like all of that is not what you think of
maybe as like a general fan or observer, but like
it matters to these guys because it's their time and
it's their off season.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
So to me, like all of that stuff means.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
Like might not pay huge evidences, but like I don't
see how it could hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Talking with Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post and sticking
with bo here for another minute, he was just ranked
number sixty four on the NFL Top one hundred list,
voted on by his peers in the NFL after such
a successful year one, I mean, how high is he
going to be ranked after this year? Are we thinking
too soon? Is there going to be a sophomore slump?
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Or do you think he continues to progress in this offense?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah, well I was shown about sophomore slumps the yesterday,
and he doesn't believe in him.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
So that's one part of the equation. I don't know,
you know, I thought, I mean, I far be.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
It for me is that the players know the best.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Obviously, I was a little surprised that Bonnicks was ranked
that high in the top one hundred, and not like.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Not because I doubted it.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
I mean I watched every game he played, last year.
I was thinking I was there for every game he
played last year, Like, I know that he played really well.
I just I think there's a little bit more to prove.
I'm sure he would probably say the same thing. So
I don't know, upper down from sixty four next year, that's.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
A great question.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
I don't know, maybe down slightly, but obviously if they
have a good year. You know, quarterbacks, quarterbacks sell and quarterbacks,
you know, Garner a lot of attention and all of that,
so could certainly be higher.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I just think like there's a lot.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Of expectation on bow Knicks to make this sort of
like quantum leap into the upper echelon, and I you know, I.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Bet you he would say, yeah, I mean, I want
all the.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Expectations, but like I just I think.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Maybe it's pushing a little too far, a little too fast.
But looking like he could prove that wrong, and like
that if he did, that would obviously be great.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
For the Broncos and for Broncos fans.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So we know that.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I think it's October and it's a game against the Giants.
I believe that d Marius Thomas is going into the
Broncos ring of frame as a foaming yellow jacket. I'm
happy for that, But I have to ask you, as
a guy that covered the team for a long period
of time, and I'm sure that you have your own perspective,
what player that's not into the in the Ring of
(07:48):
Fame right now that should be in the Broncos Ring
of Fame.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I'm not even yeah, I'm not sure that I have a.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Great answer to it.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
I mean, DT obviously is more than deserving and going
in on the first year I think is a really
good honor for him.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Think, to me, like there's a couple of interesting cases,
like a keep believe, like the impact and the program.
Just what is undeniable now it's more about longevity. You've
got the you know, I think it's four years normally.
I think he played right at the minimum. So he's
a guy who like played merit merits it, but then
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like longevity, that's sort of like the only question there,
like with the Broncos not in the NFL obviously, So
there's a bunch of candidates that, you know, I think
you can make a case are deserving.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
The interesting thing to me is, you know, there was.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
A stretch there for maybe eight or ten years before
the Walton Penner ownership group bought the team in twenty
twenty two, where I think, you know, there are a
bunch I don't remember the number off the top of
my head, but there's maybe twenty that went in in
a ten year span or something like that, more than
double the size of the Ring of Fame. And so
I think it's been a clear priority, that priority. But
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I think the committee, the way it's structured now has
sort of taken the approach of like, let's maybe slow
down the rate of entry. There's plenty of time, it's
a legacy thing, you know, it's slow down the rate
of entry and make sure that the people that are
getting in now are just truly no doubters. And so
you know, you would know better than me, Nick on
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other deserving candidates.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
But I think like there's.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
A couple of interesting cases, and I also think it's
going to be.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Harder than ever for the next few years to actually.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Get that call from that committee.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, you know what, here are a couple I toss
out to you. You tell me which guys more likely,
because I don't want to say more deserved, because each
guy is deserving. But I'll toss ou An McCaffrey, I'll
toss ou Al Wilson, Right, I'll toss out Trevor Price.
Now I gave you three guys, three guys of which
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i've played for I think are all deservant. But just
to say, if you were part of the committee and
you went in the room and they were talking about
guys of the three guys that I just mentioned, Parker Gabriel,
who would you pound the table for?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Hey, you put me on the spot.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
I mean, they're all really good players, right, I mean
Al Wilson, I think you could, you know, you can
make a great case for any of them.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Maybe maybe I would go to him.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Obviously, you know, multiple hundred tackle seasons.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I think he spent his whole career.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Right with Denver, so he's got those things going For McCaffrey,
you know, has got longevity and obviously a good long
run in Denver, even though he played for other teams too.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
So, boy, that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
I'd have trouble ordering him one to three. I don't
know that you can go wrong with any of them.
But but give me out Wilson.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
How you feel about that?
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Nick?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm fine with that, you know what. To be totally honest,
I'm gonna be fine with any guy.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I thought he was gonna give us option and go
with Nick Ferguson and the Broncos, right, Frank Listen, I
thought that was.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Going un said, like, you know, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Would I would never do that.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
All three of those players are very deservant and I
hope they all they all get in all fabs.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But just to prove a point as to.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
How difficult it is to vote on guys, because that's
a great thing about playing here is that there's been
so many great guys that come through this organization, which
makes it tough to figure.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Out which guy's going in every single year.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Exactly, Parker.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You going from Broncos that have made a name for
themselves already to maybe some up and comers. Who's a
draft pick that you like from this year or maybe
a UDFA that you really think is going to make
an impact on this team sooner rather than later.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, that's your question.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I mean, I like a couple of the day three
you guys have just like have done some nice things
so far. Now, the thing like, and I'm thinking in
particular of Q Robinson and and Caleb Blowner. The thing
about both of them is like they both play extremely
physical positions. Obviously qu Robinson, you know, on the edge
and then kill Blunder at tight end. So you really
don't get much of a read, you know, until you've
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got like a couple of weeks in pads. The thing
about Loner that I like, and I don't know that
it will be this year, maybe you don't count anything out,
Like there's just he does stuff that he did, the
natural athleticism, Like there's just stuff that looks easy, and
I don't I don't think you would watch him at
a practice and go like that's the guy that only
played fifty snaps of college football.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Obviously he's raw.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Obviously he's got a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
To work on, an element of his game to refine.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
And you want to see him sort of figure out
his own coverage and do all of that. Like you
just don't really had a chance to see that much
at full speed yet.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
So he's the guy that's interesting track qu Robinson.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I mean, he's not the he's not the biggest, Like
he's long.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
And he's rangy.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
He's not the you know.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
He's not the stoutest of their edge guys, and so
you want to see how he plays the run when
the pads are on and in the preseason and all
of that.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But he's pretty consistently in.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
The backfield and has caused a lot of havoc and
all that for what it's.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Been so far.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Right, So those two guys, I'm just like, I'm not
ready to proclaim yes they're dudes yet, but you're sort
of interest is piece by them.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
And then I mean, Joaquin Davis is a big He's
a six to four receiver who ran.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Four three six and in a you know, an all
start setting after the season, and.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
So you just can't teach yet what it is them. Again,
he's raw and it's gonna be tough to make.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
The fifty three at receiver obviously, but he sort of
has that like early on and it's really early, but.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
He sort of has that like practice squad stash and
see where he's at a year from now kind of
feel to him.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Now, Patrick, the Broncos have historically had great play at
the safety position and they've often had a duo it's
tandem at that position.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Now with Brendon Jones from.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Fonga, how good Could this tandem be the season for
the Broncos defense?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I mean it makes sense Nick that we're talking about
the long lineage of great safety.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You knew that question.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
I mean they have a chance to be really good, right,
I mean they're sort of interchangeable. I think like they
were obviously right. You know that they gave Brandon Jones,
I think what.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Twenty two million over three years.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Before last year, he'd been sort of a part time
player in.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Miami and he just graded out really well.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
The analytics said he played really well all of that,
and so like that's a great find. And then you
add Infonga, who like, if he stays healthy, he's an
impact player and all of that. And I think they
compliment each other pretty well. You know, Brandon Jhonson do
a little bit of everything. Whufonga. You know, I thought
Vance Joseph had a great quote in June when he said,
(14:55):
you just don't want to tie him down with too
much nonsense, meaning don't you know, don't give him all
this half field responsibility, don't give him a lot of
information to sit through.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Not that he's not smart, he is, but you want him.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
To be the heat seeking.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Missile from the back end, and.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
You know that's that's Joseph, that's sort of his calling card.
He's good at taking skill sets and maximizing them. And
so you sort of figure that. You know, they'll deploy
those guys in a lot of different ways. They can
do that, but end of the day, like you want
Hufanga running to the football, tackling the football, making plays
on the ball, and I think they'll you know, I mean,
(15:33):
Vance basically said the idea is to structure the defense
so that he can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Parker, we got about thirty seconds here left. I am
oh for one on the night for asking for this request,
but we saw hal Cogan passed away earlier today at
seventy one years old. Can you give us your best
hull Coguan impression?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I can't.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I wish that I could, but I can't.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
I don't even I wouldn't even know how to start it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Why don't you do it, Grant?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
I mean it seems like you're child.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Hey, brother, give us a home coching impression. Come on, Parker,
you can do it, brother.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
That was pretty good. Why do we leave it at that?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post was seat of campsu Man.
Oh see guys, Thanks Man, Parker Gabriel Denver Post. We'll
be back on Broncos Country to night in just a
couple of minutes with the six biggest storylines to watch
at Broncos training Camp that coming up in just a
couple of minutes on Broncos Country, A night on Kawa
A fifty ninety four to one FM Under the Weather
(16:35):
and here with Nick Ferguson and Zach Seegers thanks to
romy Bean and Parker Gabriel joining us in the previous segments. Nick,
you wanted to hit on something that you found out.
We were talking about Bo, Nick's meeting up with Drew
Brees and the off seas and to do some training,
and you did a little digging on the interwebs and
found out something pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, and you know, keep this in mind.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Obviously we're talking about Drew Brees in his six sies
and opposed to Knicks in his first season. But I
thought this is the coalition between the statistical data was
really interesting because we're looking at how bo is to
succeed in Sean Payton's offense, and all you have to
do is just kind of look to the past. And
(17:16):
past performance don't predict things that are going to happen
in the future, but it gives you somewhat of an idea.
So once again, keep in mind, we're talking about Breeze
in sixteen games and bow in seventeen games. And I said, well,
when when you look at breeze completions right, three fifty
six to Bow's three seventy six, completion percentage sixty four
(17:39):
for Breeze, sixty six point three for Bow, knicks a
number of attempts five hundred and fifty four for Drew Brees,
five fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
For bow nov most identical.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
All right, So sachs Breeze eighteen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Now keep in mind this is in Breeze's first year
in Sean Payton's off so he was sacks eighteen times
Bow twenty four.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Now here's where he gets interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Breeze was twenty six and eleven touchdown interception ratio Bow
twenty nine to twelve.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Right, And you think just that one extra game in
the regular season is really all that's separating those numbers.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Right, But obviously when you look at the yards thrown
in between the two quarterbacks significantly different. I think Breeze
average about eight yards or throw and I think bow.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Is like at six something like that. But my whole point.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Was that looking at that statistical data, I was like, well,
it's telling me that Bau was severely ahead of where
he should have been as a rookie in Sean Payton's offense.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think that's why Sean Payton liked him so much, right,
I mean that story that was just all over the
place last year when they met with him before the
draft and they gave him a playbook and the next
day he was reciting the plays back to Sean. I mean,
that's the kind of quarterback that Sean Payton needs in
his offense.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think the similarities to Drew were there, you know,
just being a pocket passer. But then the thing that
kind of transcend whatever Breeze could have ever or Champagne
would could have ever dreamt of with Drew Brees was
the fact that Bo's mobile.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah. That's such an added element, man, and an.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Added element that some coaches typically don't gravitate to.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It don't like.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
And the reason they don't is because when you've had
a guy who stayed between the tackles and as he's
thrown the ball, between the tackles, because whether he has
the ability to run it or doesn't, that means or
translate to those offensive coordinators that he's going to stick
with the play and do what I want.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Him to do. Right, But I can.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Tell you and it's not well the modern day NFL.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
No, the idea is, if your quarterback has a unique
skill set, you nurture that, you encourage that, because that's
how you change the game. And just so happens some
of the mordern day quarterbacks, they know how to move
and they can throw on the run. Your favorite quarterback
came That's the thing that makes him very difficult to
(20:22):
defend because you may defend the route, but.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You haven't defended the quarterback. Right. That's where the game change.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
And now you're talking about we got to add a
spy or how do we stop this guy from moving
with the ball. And I can tell you being in coverage.
Once that quarterback breaks the pocket, the first thing you go,
you say, well, I've covered him long enough, let me
take a peek.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And that's when he gets especially you know you mentioned
Joe Burrow and he has such a great relationship with
Higgins and Jamar Chase that they can know what the
next guy is going to do when a play does
break down, so you know, Joe only needs to look
a certain way and then t or Jamar knows what
he wants them to do, and then that's how they
get those huge plays after the play breaks down. And
(21:07):
I think that's what we're gonna see. That's the beauty
of the continuity with bo Nix coming into year two
with guys like Courtland Sutton and Marvin Mims, that's only.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Going to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That relationship, that unspoken, just the look like Aaron Rodgers
and DeVante Adams had for so long, where they know
what they want to do without even having to say anything.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
See, that's where I would like to see the chemistry
between the quarterback and the Broncos wilde receiver group actually
develop more. Because it's one thing to run a hitch
rout that means you run up five yards or eight
yards and turn around and flash your hands and your numbers.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well what happens once.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You see that quarterback on the scramm or you know
your quarterback is mobile, so there's a chance sixty percent
chance he's gonna break contain?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Did you stand there still flashing your hands like a
Krispy Kreme yonside, or.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You've run your ass up, feel right, And that's what
I would like to see. And that's kind of the
thing that Russell was able to do with his wide receivers.
You know, back in the Dan Seattle you mentioned Devonte
Adams and Aaron Rodgers. See, that's the evolution that I'm
looking to see in this Broncos offense.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Can the quarterback and wide receivers get on that page?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And is that something you can really practice like in
training camp when you're doing your team drills or is
that something more that just comes with with actual gameplay.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
No, you have to practice that.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I mean you can't get to the game and go okay,
well I want you to go no, no, no, no, no.
It's kind of too late at that point, but you
because you have to start develop that chemistry. Like you've
been married for a while now, you know in your marriage,
you kind of know what your wife is going to
do or how she would handle certain situations, what.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
She expects you to do without saying anything.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Without See, that's where the best communication comes in.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Well, I don't have to say it, you are already
know because.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Just like, let's just say you were outside and you
were being caught in the sun for a moment and
then bow happens to look at you.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
You know that you have a go route on. Well,
what he seems is.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
That maybe you know, the corner is playing a little off,
or the corner was nicked up on the.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Previous play, so he may just kind of look at you.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
He may flash your hand signal or not, and you go, okay,
well I know him to do this.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Guy, little helmets happened.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, stretching your helpet or something like that. It's something
that you work on it. And that's the thing that
made Peyton Manning so great as a quarterback. It's like
a being a comedian. Can you improv and can you
improv to perfection under pressure?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, that's the thing, and that's what Peyton did so well.
He did so well, and that's what hopefully we're going
to see from bow Nicks. I mean, we saw it
in plenty of games last year. I thought this that
speaking of continuity and getting on the same page and
just how helpful it is.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
This blew my mind. I saw this the other day.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Bo Nicks and Sean Payton are the first Broncos QB
coach duo to return since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Isn't that wild?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Like we haven't had the same quarterback and head coach
for back to back years since Peyton Manning was here.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's over a decade.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I mean, it just seemed like, you know, everybody go
to a meat market and have that now servings, you got.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
To pull the tag.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Number ninety seven, Damn it would be here wild.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know what, That's great because now this is metaphor
of the speaking. It's almost like the Broncos had a
turnstile quarterbacks over here, coaches over here. Now they basically
taking that turnstile and throwing it in the trash heat, right,
because now you figure, okay, well you got your quarterback
of the future, you have your your head coach for
(24:54):
the next three four years hopefully hopefully, and let's see
what happens with this. And this is why it's exciting.
And so many people are excited because they saw what
happened with Drew Brees's numbers and they're saying, okay, well
can we predict or project the same thing?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Could it happen with bow?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
This is why I say this, Sean Payton spent a
lot of his time focusing on the defensive side of
the ball, right because he knows if he wants to
win in this division, they gotta score points or they
have to stop.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Some people too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, one of those defenders newly added to the team, Tallanoahufunga,
known as Huff, out there at the Broncos training facility,
talked a little bit about bow Nicks and this is
what he had to say today.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
First and foremost, I think he's just a smart player.
But then it's like, Okay, you get on the field
and you see how accurate he is, what kind of
arm he has. I think that kind of especially the
first day, Ota is like first ball was over everybody's
head and I was like, wow, like you have to
be you have to comfort those.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Kinds of things.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
And not every game that you play in the NFL,
you're going to play quarterback that can launch it that far.
And so for him, he has that ability to just
get it over the defense head and so that changes
your perspective on how to play him. And so far
to see it as a teammate that he is a
great person, great player, and just seeing eye handles himself
in the locker room, in the cafeteria and all that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I'm excited to play with him.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, it seems like everyone's excited to play with bo
and they're getting the opportunity now that Broncos training camp
has started. And our guy, Zach Seegers, hosted a great
article up to the Kowa Colorado dot com website, Six
biggest storylines to watch it Broncos training camp.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We can go through all six here quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Number six on the list heard Parker Gabriel talking about
him earlier. How raw is Caleb Blohner? Zach, what did
you have to say about this?
Speaker 9 (26:48):
You know, I just think the upside there is tantwise,
and you know that's why the Broncos took him in
the draft, even despite how raw he or how how limited.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
His football resume is.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
I should say, right, and just you know, can you
get him on the field right now for some red
zone packages kind of like how we've talked about Travis
Hunter maybe being in some offensive packages for the Jaguars
or whatever. Is he far enough along in his development
that you can use him in these little spots here
or there, or is he going to just be kind
of an afterthought until twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven.
(27:18):
I think that's something we can start to get a
bit of a read at or read on during camp.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean I think with his size, I mean,
why not throw in some red zone pack just for
him getting eight at cans out of there a little more.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Maybe keep him in the.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Backfield and have two options for those red zone downs.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's the thing. You see him during his time at Utah.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
There's reps where he's literally unguardable, specifically against Colorado, and
he's going against the guy who's going to get drafted
on the first two days of the draft in this
upcoming cycle. I just there's I think maybe enough there
that you could tap into it this year.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But also he's been playing.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
He's got two years of football or sorry one going
on two years of football experience since he graduated middle school.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Number five on your six Biggest storylines? Can Q Robinson
build on his stellar ota showing Nick you've been out
of a couple practice what practices. What have you seen
from Q Robinson so far?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Well, you know, obviously when you first see him, you're
impressed by its phasique, how large he is, and what
I mean by that from a height standpoint and long
it's almost like a basketball power forward, if you will,
And when you see yes, kind of the same thing,
because you have to think about when it comes to
(28:33):
edge rushers and tight ends, you're looking for lent and
guys who are athletics.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So it's interesting were talking about these two guys. Uh.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
And for me, I'm still waiting to see little more
from from Q. And the reason I'm saying that is
because it's hard to gauge a guy's ability on the
pro level when you're only in shorts. So for me,
it's next week when the pads come on, you'll be
able to tell more. Because right now, those offensive linemen
(29:03):
that you're rushing against, they can't really get their hands
on you, and see, they want to be able to
get their hands on you, get their hands on that breastplate.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And the.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Life right.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
So once we get to that point, then I'll be
able to see because now we're talking about the long arm,
which what I mean by that is being able to
rush off the edge and use either your right or
left arm, depending on the side you're rushing, and stick
that arm and the chest plate of an offensive lineman
and get him off balance. And then one move I
love by Baun used to use this all the time.
(29:35):
It was a ghost move where you go like you're
going to stick the long arm, and then as soon
as a guy goes to punch, you take it away
and you just kind of a low waist spend and
get around him. And then of course it's a cross
shop right the Marcus where it was famous for using
the cross shop, and you get a guy off balance
and boom, right next thing you know, you had the
depth of the quarterback, but you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Can't hit him. In practice though, to be fair practice.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Nobody can bend like von Miller would bend around the
edge Like that's just a freaking nature.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You can't teach that.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
No, it's something that you have to inherently have in you,
because it's like are you do you been at the
hips or you been at the knees And some guys
are a little different. So depending on your level of flexibility,
it changes how you're able to rush to pass it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, and ke Robinson certainly has plenty of athleticism. Not
trying to put him in the von Miller category yet,
but hopefully we'll see some highlights from him this season
Number four on Zach Seagers article up at Koacolorado dot com.
How have PJ Lock Alex Singleton recovered from devastating injuries?
We know, uh Seeker's not a fan of older players
(30:48):
in the NFL, but PJ Lock still young, but it's
coming back from a devastating back injury that no one
has ever come back and played for in the NFL. Again, Seegers,
what did you have to say about this?
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Well, I think these are two guys in pretty shallow positions,
maybe the most shallow positions on the roster, and as
you outline, they're coming back from very extensive and PJ
Lock's case, unprecedented injuries things we just haven't seen, or
in his case, the thing we haven't seen in the
NFL before. In the Alex Singleton's case, it's just hard
to come back from an ACL tear at thirty two.
And they should both have pretty large roles in this
(31:23):
Broncos defense, you know, even though Lock's not one of
those top two safeties now, both Jones and Hufanga have
injury history. So I think how reliable Lock and Singleton
are looking out there and how well they're moving.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's going to be really important to key on on Nick.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
How do you balance it as a player, when to
come back and when to know that you need to
sit out a little bit longer.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
That all depends on you as a player, because what's
your paying tolerance, what's that threshold?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Are you injured or are you hurt?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Well, for me, they were one and the same. The
idea was that you push through it mentally. This is
where your mental toughness comes from, because here's what we know,
and here's what I know as a player.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
The moment you start.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Training camp, practice, I mean, you're going through from that
preseason to the end, and you hope, hope that it's
a deep playoff run. So if you get nicked up,
guess what, you're dealing with it for the entire season.
So you hope that it's something that you can push through.
But if it's something that you can't, you do your
damnness to push through. Now you're talking about PJ locking
(32:31):
is back. I mean, this is excellent opportunity for Jail Skinner.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Dave forgotten see.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And that's why I brought it up.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I mean I staged young Seer was going to bring
it up but no, it's Jail Skinner has a perfect opportunity.
Can't he push his way into the starting lineup. I
don't know, because you got too proven safeties in front
of you. But we know long seasons injuries happen. So
are you ready to go from being a guy contributing
on special teams to now taking that same step that
(32:59):
p Lot to it, because now a lot went from
special teams to starting back.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's a special team.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
But you never know when your number is going to
be called, and you've got to be ready. We'll go
through the top three of Broncos training camp headlines when
we come back from the break, as well as check
in with bre Mestis. If you want to give us
your biggest storylines for Broncos training camp, shoot us a
text on the Common Spirit Health text line five six
six nine zero. But we'll be back on Broncos Country
tonight with bre Meistis in just a couple of minutes
(33:29):
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