08-02-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight from Broncos Training Camp

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Speaker 4 (00:41):
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Just fyi, Benjamin Albright, Ryan Edward, what's up?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Ben?

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Sounded like you were chewing on a football when you're
getting that sentence out there.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Did you that conviction?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Try it again that while the boss is watching your again.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's just fine.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a great day to play
some football and it's a little scrimmaging today, I think
from what I.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Hear, Yeah, well you're an insider, so from what I
hear Yeah, I mean Sean he said it.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
He said it right there. He reported, No, I reported,
are you gonna go?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Coach? Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:22):
It was reported that you guys are get a scrimmage today.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
That was at all time. I was just like, what
are we what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah? Sorry, Alex? We love you, buddy, We love you.
We'll see if he's out here today. That was last
That was actually last Saturday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Was last Saturday day. Where were you? We always right,
you were at home in bed Fort living, Yeah, monitoring. Yeah.
Congratulations to Zach Allen. Yeah, so Zach Allen contract extension?
How about that?

Speaker 4 (01:53):
First of all, a little shout out to Benjamin Albright
who came on KAOE Sports yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Thank you for coming to studio. By the way, it
was a long drive, but you know, somebody's got to
do it.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
And we we talked about Mike Parsons, we talked about
Terry McLaurin, and then we of course also talked about
Zach Allen.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
And you had been reporting for a while that Zach
Allen's deal was getting close.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well, hey, about an hour ago, Zach Allen signed a
four year, one hundred two million dollars deal that includes
sixty nine and a half million guaranteed per sources.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah, would have been a little bit sooner, but some
of the language for the I think the third year, whatever, guarantees, whatever,
you know, those kinds of things. I had the number
at twenty five person a little bit higher than what
I thought it was going to be. But on the APY,
now the guarantees of course said it at seventy, but
the APY little north of twenty five.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
So I was a little short there. But you know,
congratulations to him.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I mean, you know he can spring for some fortur
when when they're up there in Santa Clara next week.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Why was this important to get done?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
I mean, he is the engine of that race car
on defense, I mean he really is. What what he
brings to the table allows other people to do what
they do. You know, he is He's a menacek Zach had.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
What forty quarter QB knockdowns last year? Yep, I think
it was the only The only player in.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
The last decade who's had that number was Aaron Donald
during their Super Bowl run. To put that in perspective
in terms of what he brings to the table as
an interior defensive line. Of the sack total may not
be as high, but part of that's because he's drawing
double teams and you know, he's tying up blockers, allowing
guys like Nick Benito to you know, to be able
to get in there and get the sacks.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
A lot of you know, you go back and look
at the tape on Benito sacks.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Some of those were cleanup sacks last year that they
were caused by Alan reeking havoc in the backfield there.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So I'm you know, I'm happy for Zach.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
He he is an important piece of what they do
U and outside of certain probably the most important piece
of the defense.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, forty quarterback hits last year, and according to our
guy Andrew Mason, that's the most from interior defensive linemen
and in the last seven years since Aaron Donald in
twenty eighteen. As you pointed out, and then the other side,
I wanted to rampiers from Evan Kaplan. He said he
had fifty pass rush wins, which is an ESPN stat
lining up a defensive tackle, and that was by far

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the most of the NFL. The only one closest to
him was Chris Jones and Quinn Williams at thirty four. Yeah,
and he had fifty there.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
So yeah, I mean spectacular season for Zakline. I think
you said it's more he's been doing the engine of
the team. Yeah, he has been doing it for a while.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
He did it.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
That was one of those things when when when he
came over, when people.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Were upset that the Broncos not paying Draymont and bringing
Zach Allen over, I'm like, man, you guys did not
watch Arizona's defense. This guy was a one man wrecking
crew on a defense. It was kind of devoid of talent.
He already knows what fans wants him to do, and
that is vance Joseph Sky so happy for Zach Allen
and he'll be a Bronco for the remainder of his
productive career.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
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you to sort of reiterate it.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
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Speaker 3 (04:55):
Why you could have streamed the Rockies win last night,
for example. You can stream that some people believe the
entire time, like myself. Others were I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Rounding the bases on Twitter last night, Nick ferguson rounding third.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, rounding third.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Pretty good about themselves after the nine. Nothing lacking in
the first inning. But it's half as a half inning
of baseball, Nick, you gonna let this thing play out.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
They got they got, they got more frames. It's just
like bowling.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
You don't get the Yeah, imagine it's something like bulling.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I tried to I was actually trying to roll with
you for that.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
It's nothing like bowling. It's but well, I will have
Nick on little later on. We'll get his, uh, his
thoughts on no on what happened there. But you talked
about Nick Benito and why maybe it's really in the
best interests for Nick, at least right now to wait
on his extension.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, there's no rush for Benito and company to get
anything done because if they get to an impass and
the Broncos feel compelled, they've got the franchise tag on
the back end of this.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
But what they're waiting on, and what they're they're intelligently
for their end waiting on, is the Michael Parsons and
Trey Henderson's deals to get done, not because Nick Bideo
is going to top those deals, but because those deals raise.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
The average of the top five.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
And Nick Benito's going to come in somewhere between that
fourth and fifth uh edge rush Apy number, which is
between twenty eight and thirty four million a years, so
you know, it'll raise that number. I suspect Media will
ultimately sign around thirty three million per year deal, whether
that's with the Broncos or not, you know, and I
do I believe at this point that it'll probably be
the Broncos, but I do believe that'll be right around

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the number there, you know, in terms of what he gets.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And he's intelligently waiting that out of me. That's what
you do.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
You've got to You've got an owner and Jerry Jones,
who do you know doesn't know how to stop shooting
himself in the foot. Uh and that's only gonna help
you or bottom line.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, imagine trying to not negotiate with an agent and
then saying your guy's name is Michael fin A Micah, couldn't.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Couldn't be RGM.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, our argum would never do that and another acknowledgment here,
and you are both big George Payton.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Guy's a huge George Payton fan.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
But what you and him are in the same club
though consistently blew out e.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Is that what it is? Yeah? I should be telling
you what George I say. I did not know of that,
but hey, great mind. He's more SUV guy. But you're
you guys both.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I'm just selling you out on the air for your
expensive German Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Now when people happened to see that, yeah they can
not all of us can afford a German sports car. Anyways. Uh,
I hate you so much. God, we got a Nick
back in here. I just so much.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
I just watched Dave laugh for like thirteen minutes into
this thing, and you've already made me miss Nick.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh you got me all week too. It's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Go back to licking door knobs. That would We were
all better off for that, all right. Anyways, So shout
out to Uh, it's a little inside baseball shout out
to George Payton because because none of this, the Micah
Parsons terriment, none of that has been happening this offseason.
Entering training camp, these guys have all showed up Portland, Sutton,

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Zach Allen, Nick, Benido, JFM. Even though JFM I has
been public on Twitter, he's not saying thing into the media.
He's not requesting his own personal scrum of reporters so
he can tell everybody how this front.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Office is screwing him. No.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
No, they are out here, they're working and it's because
of the communication that this front.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Office has with the players. Well, since George Peyton's been here,
he's been pretty consistent.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
If you if you show up the work, you do
the right things, you earn it, you're gonna get paid.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
We saw that when Sutton and Patrick got their last deals, right.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
George Peyton has laid a culture here that that that
shifted once he took over as general manager, because previously
there was a lot of negotiating.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Through the media.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
You remember the von Miller cropped photos, uh, you know
and things like that. With all the respect to John Elway,
you know, we we saw that and you've that's gone
away under George Payton. He's done done a fantastic job of, uh,
of turning around this the culture of what it is
you need to do to get contracts and get contracts
done around here and uh, you know, really embracing the

(08:49):
the wheezy philosophy, real gee's moving.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Silence like was on you.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm not gonna laughing, and then you pull you back
you I do, I get you know, I get you.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Just you say really dumb things and then you follow
it up with something better and then I'm back in.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
So this time it's going to be different themselves.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, some people trick themselves and you know whatever, it
never works for them, but it might for us.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Five six six nine Zeros are Kae Common Spirit health
text line. If you want to interact with us, we're
gonna be on till noon today. Practice starts around ten am,
so we got some time here. If you have some
questions you want to ask about some of the players
out here practicing what we've seen over the course of the.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Last week and a half, happy to answer those.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
If you want to react to Zach Allen's deal, talk
about Nick Benilo's deal, all those kinds of things. Heck,
if you want to throw your trade scenarios out there,
which I don't think are serious, but if you want
to throw those out there on how the Broncos can
somehow acquire Michael Parsons. We're here for that too. A
couple of texts here already coming in five, six, six
nine zero. When I saw that Chris Jones still makes
more money than Zach Allen, I realized that Alan is

(09:52):
still underpaid.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Great deal for the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well part of the Chris Jones it's like a Chris
Jones tax because he's been one of the best.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Is Chris Jones.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah, I can reframe that number with this better for
you and our own Zach seekers put it out there
on on Twitter. When the Broncos let Draymond Jones walk,
he and Zach Allen got nearly identical deals at the time.
This offseason, both of them got new deals. Alan gets
one hundred and two over four. Draymond Jones got eight
point three million for a one year deal. That should
tell you where those two where those evaluations wound up.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
So a good, good poll there by our own Zach Seegers.
Nice word, Zach so agreed.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
But once again, you know Chris Jones as an example
of a guy that has three Super Bowls and has
been one of the premier players in his position. I mean,
there's a reason why MILESK. Garrett can ask for forty
million per or t J. Watt even though they had
what is respect respectfully down years for them.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
They are already those guys.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
And this is why Michael Parsons is gonna get paid
in that range anyways, because he's a defensive Player of
the Year candidate before he steps on the field.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
And it's just that guy already. And now, as far
as the Parsons stuff goes, I expect Jerry to cave
and you know, and and wind up you know, overpay
at Parsons.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Trades for the Broncos are completely unre realistic as far
as that stuff goes. I know where Parsons wants to go,
and that trade's unrealistic because I don't think Jerry's going
to trade him in division to Washington and go reunite
with with Dan Quinn. But I will tell you there's
a sneaky team out there that put a call in there,
and that is the Raiders. And can you imagine Michael
Parsons and Max Crosby no the same defense? No, thank you,

(11:20):
Like I don't want to imagine that. That that that
hurts my heart to think about poor bow, poor boy.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, you've been, of course down on bow since the beginning.
That's not a thing.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Let's see here, huge deal for Denver to get Allen
at that number. I figured he would be closer to
the deal with Milton Williams I got at twenty eight million.
He's the straw that starts to drink for the pass
rush at the four I what he is able to
do against double teams to still be effective without volume
of snaps is nothing short of incredible.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I completely agree, so kind of to front of that point.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Though both this contract and Courtland Sutton a little under
what I thought they would ultimately have to go to.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Courtland took a big pay cut relative to where, uh,
what he could have gotten on the market and what
the initial ask was. Zach is right around where I
thought it was gonna be slightly lower than what, you know,
five and a half slightly because I thought twenty five
and he's at twenty five, and it has a right
around there the Milton deal.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
There's there's some other stuff to that.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I don't want to tie up over time with all that,
but this, you know, with Zach, I mean we talked
about it earlier. It's it's if the Broncos defense is
a Ferrari. He's the engine, you know, the end of
the day, he's the engine. It's not sexy, it's not
the that's not the body. You're not staring at it,
but you know it's there when you hear rev well.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
And you just have to be around this defensive line
group to know what kind of impact he has.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean, and this is a this has been a
fun group.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I mean, shout out to Anthony Rodd who's been doing
a wonderful job out here with our social media and
putting up all sorts of great video content on on
KOI Colorado, Twitter.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Instagram, Facebook. I mean, he's been very, very on top
of it.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
But he's also been asking some really good questions, including
gotta give him shot because sometimes people miss this thing.
On other stations around town. Anthony's the one that asked
the Marv MEM's question that got the all the reaction
when he's talking about the trash talking, and then he
also asked yesterday.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Well, speaking of strong in the drink creating the drama
over here, it's yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
So he asked the follow up yesterday to Marvin and
that that was our yeah, not no.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
He asked the first one to Marvin and then Malcolm.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Sorry they follow up to Malcolm and so anyways, really
fun stuff you can find in our socials.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
But we've been obviously playing them throughout the week.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
But this defensive line room is very tight and you
see it out here on the practice field.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
They've been getting after it every single day.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
And some people will point to maybe some concerns about
the offensive line. I think some of those are valid.
I'm not saying they're not, but the defensive line is
really that good.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
They are. And that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Just because the you know, just because the defensive line
is is that good, doesn't mean there's not you know,
some things.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
To to Diyeball on the other side of that.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
I you know, the defensive lines where everything starts with
his defense. We've seen Vance Joseph defenses here before obviously
when he was here is you know, as head coach,
and you need that. You got to have those guys
who are able to tie guys up and create that
interior havoc so you can have guys shooting the gaps.
You know, we saw when Vance was here as head coach.
You know, Todd Davis coming out that inside back er

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position role. They kind of had that role carved out
for Drew Sanders before he got hurt. So it'd be
interesting to see if maybe Bailey steps into that, you know,
and picks up a few sacks this year coming down
out of that role, because I don't think.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Green Law's going to be in that role.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
From Lance, how much of the Benito situation is him
waiting out the Henderson Hendrickson Parsons deals as compared to
the Broncos wanting to see Benito quote unquote prove it
that he is a double digit sack player for another season.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Well, it's both because it's no cost to the Broncos
to do that, right Nick, Benito's already at that ask, right,
So if he goes back and replicates that, that just
affirms that ask. He doesn't parpel him up into MICHAEH.
Parsons Miles Garrett numbers. It's probably unless he comes out and.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Has a twenty five sax season or you know, a
twenty sax season.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
That's a great point is unlikely. Yeah, I think that's
exactly right. I mean, we really have to kind of
go to another tier there before you get to well,
that's another ten million you're adding per year for Benito.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
That's a great point.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
And I think I even needed to reframe that because
I've been saying for a little while, like I think
this one is okay to weigh, even from the Broncos
side of things, to your point, just because I it's
not so much about the prove it. It's that I
don't know if the jump is significant enough.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
And the reason for that is is like all three
of those guys are A plus pass rushers, right, Parsons, Benito,
Miles Garrett, but Garrett and what and yeah and w Garrett, Watt.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
And Parsons are A plus edge setters.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Two, whereas Botito's more of a C plus B minus
edge setter. He's better, He's got much better, but year
he's averaged a slightly above average at that. He's not
a liability, but he's one of those people that's not
in the elite.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Status like you know, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
He sets the edge in the run game too, Like
it's he's completely a three hundred and sixty degree player,
where Nick is really more of a pass rush specialist
that can do some of these things, but really that's
not his strength.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, I remember the early days of Broncos country tonight.
I guess just a few years ago when they drafted
Nick Benito and we were talking about some of his
concerns there at the edge and contained, and I made
the argument that I'd be okay if he ends up
being just a pass rush specialist. And you said, and
maintained for quite a while, that's not gonna be good
enough of the Broncos if he's just that guy.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, that's first of all, drafting the second round, you're
you're expecting much more than that. And he has, he
has grown into he has evolved into more than just
a pass rushing specialist.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
But again, that's not his that's not his strength. You know.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
That's like Coop is better to set in the edge
than uh than Nick Benito is. And and to be
honest with you, you know Tillman and and and Jonah
Allis showcased a little bit of that last year too.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
All Right, a couple more texts here five six, six
nine zero. If you want to interact with us, we're
gonna be on until noon at today. Practice starts around
ten am. That's a bunch of special guests dropping by
throughout the morning. We'll get to some of that list
as they swing by. But another text coming in here,
Hey Ryan Ben, great to hear you guys again talking
about Peyton. When will he get his extension? That needs
to get done soon. That's Joan Parker.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Who get done.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I would suspect that'll probably be announced after the season
and before uh you sort of that that that the
front office season that you have, that draft season, that'll
probably get announced in.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
January of feduarar By. How the turntables have turned.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah, uh, since some media in this town was trying
to run him out of town, claiming George Pate was
terrible because he drafted, Uh some guy named Pats or
tan Over.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
What was that superstar Justin Fields? What do he complete
two passes of practice today and something like that?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Out of twenty nobody, nobody spekes the football more like,
especially with Justin field struggles.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I do think you're a little unfair on him. But
he's terrible.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
He sucks out loud like I'm not even trying to
I'm not trying to mince words.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
He's not good. I'm tired of pretending. I'm you're right.
It's weird.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
The Justin Fields and the old caveman tribe, like the
Justin Fields. Was the guy who couldn't throw the spear
accurate enough to kill the wooly.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Mammoth, but he could run faster the wooly mammoth. Well,
he was the first one there for fantasy purposes. I'm
just gonna say.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
For fantasy football purposes, because they have dumb scoring rules
where you know, things that don't matter get your points.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
He might rush for one hundred yards this year and
running for his life, and then all he has to
do is complete a couple of passes.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
All they need to do to fix fantasy football scoring
and start counting sackyard is total against the quarterback. And
I don't ever have to see you guys draft these
crap quarterbacks and beat me with him again.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
How do you feel about your Jalen Hurts take these days?
He's okay, Hey, hey, he's okay. He's gonna have regression
this year.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Just watch one of these years. You'll be right on that.
I was right when he had the last one.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
And then what happened. They got a real loc in there.
He pounced back.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Then they added so coaching matters been That's fascinating.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
That breaking news from Benjamin All I wasn't the coaching
that matters was adding Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Anyways, this one Broncos country this morning. I dig it.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
It feels like it wasn't too long ago that people
were calling for George's head. I'm glad it didn't happen.
Maybe the sleeping giant is waking up now. George has
been consistently good the entire time.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Like in a GM, he's had his missage. I mean,
the Randy Gregory deal was obviously a miss on him.
I don't put the rust thing on him because that
wasn't really you know, the backstory that wasn't really on him.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, this is the thing.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
I'd rather have my GM take some swings if he
just well, what is that character in Tin Cup David whatever?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Since Yeah, yeah, I par Roy McAvoy and yeah, you know, hey,
I'll take eighteen pars.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Like, if you want to make a comparison, I'd rather
have Roy McAvoy. I'd rather have a guy that goes
for it, yeah and takes some swings and he's gonna
miss and he's gonna hit it in the water like
big Costner guy.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
I do like to think I probably have the Don
Johnson of the you know, with the sleeves pushed up
on the blazers, and.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
He's certainly got more hair.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
But anyways, the thing is I I I would say,
I would say with.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
That character is as a GM.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, you want to you don't want to be reckless,
but you need to take some swings. You need to
take some risks because you only get so many reps
in this job. Right, you see, gms fired after one
year sometimes, not that that was going to happen here
in Denver, but if you only got a short runway
and you don't even know what that runway looks like, right,
imagine taking off a plane and it's like I can't
even see the end of the runway because the ownership

(20:17):
hasn't even established it for you. You just kind of have
to go. So for me, I like him taking those swings.
I like the Russ swing. You know, the Thaniel Hackett
thing got well.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Being too collaborative and allowing other than making that you're
going with your gut, which would have been John Gannert
or Dan Quinn, you allowed the room.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
To kind of dictate it, and you wound up in
Nate Hackett.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Right, I mean there's there's a nuance to all of it.
But that's what I'm saying is like, hey, you took
some swings. You traded a bunch of draft picks for
Russell Wilson, ends up being one of the worst trades
in history. But guess what, just one year later or
two years later, your team is in the playoffs and
then now they're a darling as a dark horse super
Bowl contender. So you can miss me with the he
should have been fired after those deals, because if you'd

(20:56):
have done that in reset, you would have been resetting
so much work that had gone into what is now
this current roster, which by the way, includes Zach Allen.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
I'm with you on the swings. I'm gonna take it
a little bit different direction. I want a GM. I
don't want a GM that doesn't make mistakes. I want
a GM that knows how to pull himself out of mistakes.
And if anybody has done a better job while pulling
them out of those mistakes than George Payton around.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
The league, you show me, because I haven't seen it.
I think that's perfectly said, right, and give them a
chance to work out of it.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, some people will say, well, it's because of Sean
Payton that got here. Well, Shawn, it's help, there's no
doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But I think more the continuity at coaching staff and
the continuity and direction of what the team is supposed
to look like has.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Aided than specifically Sean Payton.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think Sean Payton gets a lot of credit for
the front office moves when I think it's a lot
more collaborative than people want to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
It really is. And that's that's one of those things people.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Will say, well, Sean Payton is ruling with iron fisiciting
Sean Paynon rules with an iron fysicit from the coaching
side of things, right, and certainly from some of the
processes inside the building when it comes to how we're
preparing these guys, how we're running meetings. Those kinds of
absolutely agree with that. But when it comes to adding players.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
To this roster, Peyton's not cracking the tape scot outing,
you know, scouting five hundred college players in a year
to find you know, he's got some guys that are
he's got like George Brings, you know, and he's got
some guys that he's Okay, I like this guy's guys.
You know, that'll fit what I do, those kinds of things.
But the narrative on this thing has gone so sideways.
And just because you're seeing the turnaround when Sean got
here again, it tends to be because you actually have

(22:18):
continuity and in direction of what you're trying to do.
You're resetting coaching staffs. And I'm not talking about the
head coach. I'm talking about everybody. O c's, DC's special teams.
You're resetting every single flipping year. Well, of course you're
going to be a bad team doing something like that.
Every team deals with that, But like you said, he
dug himself out of it, and I think the continuity

(22:38):
with the coaching staff and the direction has really helped
him sort of solidified.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
This is what we're trying to add to the team.
But again, all these players, they're extending. The Jonathan Cooper is,
the Pats are Tans. These are all guys.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Pick you know, I mean, so it's yeah, well and
the same thing with Gary Balls and.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
And Zach Allen was vance Joseph's guide and have anything
to do with.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, So we're extending all these players. But you guys
out there want to say, well, Sean. Thank god Sean
is here to do this now. Sean likes the players
that George picked. If he didn't like the players, they
would be gone.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's it. And we've seen that.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Every coach around the league, whether it's Sean or anybody.
If you don't like a guy, you don't want him there,
and you tell the GM I, hey, listen, I know
that you're being You're still here, but I don't like
your guy. I can't coach your guy. He doesn't fit
what I want to do. Instead's the opposite, Hey, George,
nice picks. Let's go ahead and get these guys extended,
because there are cornerstone players for what we're trying to do. Sorry,

(23:36):
it just it just bothers me so much that there's
so much misinformation out there, Oh yeah, being fed into
the fan base from our media that it drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
No, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
And you see a lot of that out there with you,
with people who have their own embedded narratives or whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
And it's circle.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
We can we can bring that full circle with people
who thought that drafting Patsartan was a huge mistake and
I'm like, you get better by drafting good You know
how you build a good team. You draft good football
players and eventually you wake up and you got a
roster full of good players.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
All right, we're off and roll here on Saturday. Very
excited to be here with you, Benjamin A.

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Speaker 3 (25:55):
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Speaker 4 (25:56):
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Speaker 3 (25:59):
Of course, from today the.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Very first game, the preseason game and you'll be on
I think what three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Whatever's in the email, whatever, whatever the schedule. I'm just
trying to get his.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
You actually don't know, that's in my calendar whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
You guys like you're you're messing with it, but you
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Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm waiting for you to look it up three o'clock. Okay, sources,
that's uh.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Another question coming in here. Uh, Any Sean Payton extension
in the works?

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Well? What? No, not right now? I mean he's he's
going into what is this is gonna be?

Speaker 5 (26:42):
This is a pivotal year for him because if they
don't exceed what they did last.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Year, you kind of have to eyeball that. You know,
he's uh, and that's one of the things you have
to do. Okay, Sean Payton has.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Definitely built a high floor. Right you can look over
the course of his career, he's built the high floor.
The Saints were never going to be you know, maybe
Bull five hundred twice I think it was whatever it was,
the seven or nine, they're never gonna be below that, right,
So he's built a high floor thing, but there are
coaches that have done that over the years. John Fox
was notoriously a guy who built the high floor program,

(27:13):
but couldn't win the big one. Couldn't get him quite
over the humping that kind of stuff. And so you
need to see, uh, you know, out of Sean Payton. Okay,
where do they go in year two with bo Nicks?
Is this is and they're gonna win a playoff game
this year? Can they win the division? What does this
look like in year two? Do we catch fire at
year one with a quarterback nobody just knew about? Was
the defense? You know how much of that was the
defense carrying the offense?

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (27:34):
And so you really kind of need to see this
year and where this they get the full trajectory of
what this thing with bow Nicks is before you before
you offer Sean Payton an extension, But I would be
the number is gonna be the same. This is another
one where it's like the thing, the number is gonna
be the same either way.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
It feels like he's.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Got suddenly coaching himself in a forty million a year.
You know, that's not Yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Feels like a playoff win is kind of the uh
that needs to the baseline, it needs to happen.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, that's like a little bit of the baseline based on
what happened last year. You know, the expectation is set.
Now now you've got to continue.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
And this is I always called it the Miami problem
because you remember the Miami Hurricanes back nearly two thousands,
where they would win, they would lose one game, you know,
and then they got Larry Coker fired for losing two
games in a season. I'm like, wait a minute, you're winning,
you know, twelve games, You're you're you're in the National
Championship conversation, and you're fired the dude like, and then
then we.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Saw the decline of the program afterwards.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
The expectation of success resets the bar on what the
expectation of success is every year.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
And so now Shawn's got to win a playoff game.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Would you guys rather have Aiden Hutchinson, Miles Garrett, or TJ.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Watt right now or in for the future, Well, it depends.
I mean, if we're running this scheme, I think you
want TJ.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Wayt just in a in a vacuum. I think for
one season you're talking about Miles Garrett.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
If you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Somebody to build around a defense, I think you might
be eight nunchens in just for the youth.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
So I think the context matters with each of those.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Three more texts coming in by you, guys are really
fired up this morning.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Chances of John Franklin Myers getting an extension, and who's
going to be our RB one, Well, I'll tell you
about the RB one is JK Dobbins at least right now,
but I think it's going to still be a timeshare
between him and RJ Harvey. You'll probably see a little
bit of a Julia McLoughlin kind of third down, two
minute drill roll at times. But the fact is is
that right now, as its sits, JK gets the first crack.

(29:32):
Usually RJ comes in right after that, and then the
other others are mixed in. You and I both agree
that odrict estimate is probably making the roster, but again
I don't think that that's solidified.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I think Blake Watson is making a case out here.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Well, and I think the injuries at the inside back
er may wind up cost an estimate just by virtue
of how you have to do the roster construction and
juggle things around. You'd bring him back on the practice
squad and then eventually bring him back up. If you
did that and he's there to be, he's gonna get
some early down work.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
He'll be a battering ram early down you know, kind
of guy that that stuff.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Uh. He'll get his chances this preseason to to make
to make his case. But I think the way it's
trended to the first week and a half year is
kind of Hey, he's kind of the odd man.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Out as far as that goes.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
You mentioned McLaughlin will get the Darren Sproles role, you know,
sprinkling of plays here or there, and it'll really be
a one two punch with with r J and JKJK.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
You'll have the early lead as being the guy. He's
the veteran.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
He'll be the early guy, and is RJ gets more
and more comfortable on the offense, he'll get more and
more work.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
On JFM man.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
I I would love to see them extend him, and
you know you could, you could put some kind of
incentive for uncrustables in there, but there's ale insight like that,
But I I don't know, I don't know that that's
gonna happen right now.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
I would say that that is not a priority.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Despite his dissatisfaction. Yeah, and that's and I think he
should be made.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Don't get me wrong. I think we all very very valuable. Edition.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
I was over the moon when they traded for him
last year and the defensive line room right. He he's
very but they drafted Savian Jones to sort of give
them some leverage on that too, And so that's one
of those things that despite my misgivings, I think they're
I think they're on the other side of that where
they you know, they maybe don't view that as a priority.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
This from Brian. It's an absolute treat to have you
and been on together this morning. Thank Brian special. We
appreciate you, Brian.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
He did ask a question, can you and Ben address
what Bonix needs to have in terms of yards per
pass attempt this season if the Broncos are going to
win their division? Is at around eight he said for contact,
knicks average six and a half six point seven yards
per attempt to twenty twenty four, but that was heavily
weighted downward because of three games Seattle, the New York Jets,
and the Indie game. Excluding those three games, it was

(31:43):
seven point three.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I think he's a great point. I think you need
this seven and a half to eight.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of what the NFL
is right now right, not at the not because those
numbers actually matter.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
But if you're if you're the math is the math, right,
And if.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
You're if you're throwing successfully and hitting the right amount
of deep shots and things like that, that number will
war out to tour around seven and a half and
and I think that's that's roughly where he needs to be.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Give or take shout out to Gabe the mail Man
says he's camping at Pueblo Res this morning and listening.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Thank you, Gabe, appreciate that. Oh he's out on the water. Well,
I'm jealous.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Evan ingram sneaky mid late round tight end draft and
fantasy you know, honestly, yes, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I haven't Evan Inger gotten.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
PPR, if you're a PPR league, go go go ahead
and get him because he's going to be a volume
target guy.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
He's gonna be a volume I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
What the yardage totals are going to be He's been
a declining for six years.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Most most fantasy is PPR these days, it's pretty rare
to final leave this no, but yes, I mean I
think that he's gonna be a lock for a top ten,
probably a top five guy. And so if you're in
that conversation, yeah, I think I think that you can
you can talk about that. Ben and I are a
little bit different on what we think his red zone
role is. I think it's going to be higher than

(32:51):
it has been in his career. Been the opposite side,
So that's yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Just not that's not what he's done. I mean it
could be it's very very well could be wrong on that.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
But I picture more of a six hundred yard, four
touchdown season for him.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, and I think he could push for double digit touchdowns,
which makes it easy in the top five conversation. But
once again, this is this is up for debate. He's
gonna have a major role. We both agree on that.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yes, I do believe he'll he'll at My thing is,
I think he's gonna get a lot of work between
the twenties.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
But we'll see, We'll.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
See a couple other texts here five six six, Hine's here.
We're gonna Rick lewis joining us at the top of
the hour. By the way, we're excited to talk to
Rick about the Zach Allen contract extension that happened this morning.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
And Rick was trying to get me to put a
tucks on last night for what they had some one
of the one of the bands that, uh, the Little
Moses Jones band or whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, he uh, they were doing some.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Event over at the Polo oh, the Polo Club or whatever.
He was trying to originally trying to get me to
put a tucks on and go with him.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Last I was like, man, I'm not doing it. I'm
not doing a tucks tonight. I gotta I got radio
in the morning.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Dave Temper, you don't know what to put a tucks
on last night because you have to do radio in
the morning.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Put all my energy into it. What kind of done
sensical been?

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Albright Love go Out and Jane Bonded on a Friday
and then yeah around, no, no, do halfway mediocre.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Radio on a Saturday morning? So well, you really think
you do halfway mediocre? It's a little art to clear
and somehow I still limbo under it.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
That's a that's a real glass half full take on
your radio acumen. What a couple more texts here before
we kind of give you a little bit of what
we expect today from practice.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Uh this serious JFM.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
JFM next to get paid, No, it'll probably be Benito. Although
they bring a point as in, because Benito's waiting, is
there a possibility to sort of slide that contract in?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Again, I don't think they view that.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
If JFM comes in and they sit, they throw something
out there and it's a I don't want to say
a low ball offer. But if it is a very
economical short term like two year deal, maybe, but I
don't I don't I would say that I don't think
a large long term extension is in the cards for JFM.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Unfortunately. I just just by virtue of the math.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
People were really enjoying all my life by food fighters
playing underneath. Yeah, yeah, that's that, by the way, that
is not shann Scott back in the studio.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
That is uh literally the speakers next to here. We
don't control this. Stay at Montel Jordan.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Going earlier, I was I was enjoying the nineties R
and B trip that they had to go on for
a minute. You get those nineties dance moves out there,
it's they're not like Jagger, it's awkward. Yeah, just letting
you know, like I'm very white, but you anyways, this
is your home right here?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Two steps pizza making pizza. They got food there? Uh
this one.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Are we getting to a point where people need to
start considering George Payton as a top five level general manager.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Should have already been doing it. They probably should.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I'd say, we have to get clear, like I said,
really clear of the Russell Wilson, Nathaniel Hackett, probably several
years clear of that because the texture here.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Look let me yeah, let me let me say this,
Look what George Peyton has done with the burden of
the capitin of Russell Wilson and the lack of draft picks.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
And then tell me he's not. It wasn't. We're we're
on the same page.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
But if you and I talking, I'm talking more of
a national perspective on when we can.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Squeeze a synergy in right now, Yeah, we can the paradigm.
Anytime I get a chance to sneak corporate buzzwords into
the end of the radio show.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
We did have corporate in town. I've been there to
predate synergy this pump.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
So but I think nationally speaking, he's not going to
get that kind of love until they are like free
and clear of all that.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
And again, watching bon Nick, I.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Think if bon Nicks, maybe I'll say it like this,
if boon Nicks goes out there and does take a
step forward and the team takes a step forward and
maybe make a little bit of a playoff run, I
think that that narrative shifts because they're gonna be done
with the dead cap of Russ after this year. Nathaniel
Hacket thing is pretty much in the rear view at
this point.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Now, especially after the Jets Ye debacle. Yeah, so that
that one's done now.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
It's really the Roughs thing that still gets held over
him because nobody even talks about the Randy Gregory stuff,
the rust thing.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
It is so funny to me because it was this
rare blockbuster trades where everybody lost. Yeah, Russ is on
his third team in three years. The Seattle Seahawks didn't
capitalize on like any of those draft picks or or
the trade stuff. Shelby's in Cleveland now, Draymond, Yeah, Draymond
got a one year deal. No fans out there waiting
for between Cincinnati and Miami and none of those draft picks.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
All right, you were, you were, You're under the weather.
I'll give you that one. I did tell you he
was going there, But well you did, you did tell
me that. Yeah, years down to Cincinnati Miami. So I'm
sure we'd be concerned about green Law and him playing
next week. I wouldn't expect him to play next week,
but he might practice next week.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Well, he won't scrimmage. He won't do the scrimmage. He
won't do the game, but he will do the light. Yeah,
he'll do some light light.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Practice imagined, some individual drill. I mean even even on
the joint practice. I can see him do his individual
drill and then I'll pull him from that.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Right, Yeah, he won't be in team.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
What should be kind of a buffer for him to
see his former team and not be able to be
out there.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
But I think there might be some there might be
some people looking to Yeah, he's a pretty pretty intense. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
With the Russ dead money falling off next year, do
you see the Broncos using that cash for a big
free agent signing?

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Well, I think you're you're using it now. Yeah, because
Zach Allen's deal is is a true extension. It doesn't
replace this year, It ticks in next year. And so
you know, the Cortland and Zach and eventually Nick Bedido,
that's where you're going to see that money going. You know,
they're gonna have to figure out because on the offensive line,
you know, you've got mcglincheyan powers you just you got bulls,

(38:28):
you know, redone or whatever. But and Minor's redone. You're
gonna have to figure out I think something there because
one of those offensive lineman's probably gonna, you know, gonna go.
But yeah, most of your money is there.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
You guys, this is a great text right here. This
is a long time listener. How close are you guys
allowed to be the practice field? You never know when
Comrade Edwards is going to ask a player a question
they have to be nice about. And the smell of
vetevor from Ben might be too overpowering.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Well, vetiver is a natural grassy smell, as we got
all the grass right here, So the vetiver's all all
around us.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
The Vettervor's in your room with us right now.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
We're right here I mean, we're literally right, I would
say we're a full ten yards maybe eleven from the
back of the end zone.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
So yeah, the reference there is the question I asked
to JK. Dobbins. I actually feel like that was still
a pretty good question. But obviously the response of it
was JK was not, Well you didn't look at him
like JK. No, I did not do that.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I think I think that there's a level of cringe
that even I don't want to go to.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
But you, on the other hand, I aspire to the
staggering mids of mediocrity.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, but yeah, Dave Logan's been killing me for days
on that question. I thought it was pretty clever. But
I appreciate it, and he was nice about the response.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
But it's a good question.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Listen, I guess I may Is there anything more humbling
than thinking you've got a great question that does not
land like you.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Know, well, it's still got a good response from him.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Did But I mean, like, if you know, let let
me ask you this just just for fun, and you
pretend to be a broadcaster, so maybe you appreciate this
all right, So just like Nick Benito, for example, you
know everybody's asking, Hey, where you know, do you think
you deserve a contract extension. Of course he's gonna say, oh,
you know, I'm focused on football. No. So instead I
asked him, I said, okay, where do you view yourself

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in the top Echelona players that just got paid?

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (40:21):
And then he gets a chance to answer that, right,
I could ask JK. Dobbins a leading question where I
know where he wants to go. Where I ask him, Hey,
and this is an opportunity here where you were brought
in way after the fact when they just drafted guy
in the second round. Sean has been saying all off
season he's going running back by committee. It's easy to
sort of say, hey, this is this is what's being

(40:41):
laid out here, and then give him a chance to say, no,
I'm going to push back on that.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
I want the ball. Why didn't you Why did you
do something fun?

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Like you know, do you do you sub RG Harvey
out and Madden and put yourself you know in the.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
It's just so tired.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
It's been done a few times and again if people
don't know the reference. When we first started doing BCT,
quite literally every interview, ben.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
I started that with Shaq Barrett because I I was like,
you know, because Shaq was, you know, having a good
season behind Vaughn and DeMarcus Ware and it was like, look,
I was like, yeah, when you're a man player, right
and he said I love that game.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
We're like, okay, so who do you sub out? Vonn Or?
They're standing right there?

Speaker 5 (41:16):
I was like, do you sub Vonn or DeMarcus out
the plays yourself while they're standing right there?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
That's where that gots.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah, And so then he did that to every player
we'd interview out of training.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Can hey, you know you play mad? Who do you
sub outs? You know when you put your anyways? Try
to try to get them to tell on themselves. So yes,
I could be kirk Patrick.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Was the only one that stitched on himself because I
subed Vonn out that dude too slow.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
I could do something creative like that. But as I
defend myself for my line of questioning yourself, I just
you know, I always seeking more about me. Do you
have any because there's the times where I've had a
quite like this is this is the question, and then
it's it's not the question. Are the rumors true that
Baron is having a bad camp? He's not having a bad.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
No, I saw that on TWI or no. So there's
there's somebody that that's a rumor that's going around. I
don't know where it started.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Those interception Those people aren't watching practice or there. They
don't know ball, right, I'm just I'm just gonna little
you might even be a four player. They don't know ball.
They're saying he's having a batcare.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
That'siculous, ludicrous. He's gonna be the starting slot corner and
he's not having a bad camp.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
He's not having a bad camp.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I this is one of those deals like the splash
plays are coming. He is doing exactly what the coaching
staff needs him to do. He's communicating, and he's in
the right place when he needs to be there.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Those are the things.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
That they I'm just gonna tell you from being out
here and talking to people, that's what they care about
more than Hey, John A. Barron's got six interceptions so
far in camp. Orget about it.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Both through his first interceptions yesterday, Like we're in any
interceptions that have yeah, well one interception, Well there's two
interceptions because Jarrett, your guy through one.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
But he said he threw his first interception yes I
thought you said you said two interceptions. Oh no, I said, well,
yesterday there were two interceptions.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yes, yes, yeah, your guy durristidam Yeah the spark the
all spark, so transformers.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Where if I know, I'm here for it. Let's hear
that guy.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
You guys have been Wow, there's a lot of texts,
so keep sending those in five six, six nine zero
throughout the morning. We'll keep answering as many questions we can.
Players are out there warming up. Practice starts around ten
o'clock today. Ben is going to be a little bit
of a scrimmage kind of deal here.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I do miss on the side.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
No, I do miss a little bit of going to
the stadium on Saturdays back in the day.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Oh yeah, we're Brenda mcmatus pecked me in the head
with the with the with the ball kicking a field goal.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
And I don't remember that. I do because he hit
me in the head. Okay, well, I mean yes, and
I remember you I was walking around with yeah, walking
around the sidelines. Pay attention.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Well, if you want to see the header of Ben's
Twitter account, it's him as a as a sideline reporter
for one day.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Yeah, loved that loved it, titty, Vic Fangil loved that.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
You're so proud of yourself.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
You're down there with your microphone and just it's remarkable
we haven't given you more opportunities. It's weird how that
didn't I didn't pay off. It didn't translate into more work.
He got the one chance anyways, So uh, but I

(44:24):
do I do miss I do miss that because it
was a cool environment.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
It was a cool vibe to.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Be at the stadium watching the Again, it was the
scrimmage of the practice, but he gave a chance for
for more fans to get in there, especially like the
situation like.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
This season where you get eight hundred in the stands.
There's a lot of fun and great memories. It soon
was good stuff. I'll never forget Vic Fangill, Who are
you again? And what are you doing here?

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I am surprised you use that as your header, knowing
the backstory behind it.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
You know, it's just an everyday reminder to you know,
pretend to be humble like.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
You added the and there Rick lose good Joyce here
at the top of the hour. We're very excited to
talk to him about Zach Allen getting an extension. Today
what he's expected to see out here on the practice field. Yeah,
and again I think for today you want to kind
of see the offense. Maybe I would say get back
on track, feels strong, but but the honest truth is
just to see what the response is like that that

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for me is like he had a lot of penalties,
especially in the second team, had a lot of penalties yesterday.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
That's that's natural though, for this early in cap sure,
and in the defense being ahead of the offense. I
know I'm making jokes about it, but that's natural for
this part of camp. You would like to see the
offense carry their weight, right, You want to see them,
you want you want to see them have an even day.
If you can call it a tie, that's a win
for the offense, exactly so. And actually most days out
here have been like that. Most days have been back

(45:46):
and forth to win. The offense gets their wins, the
defense gets their wins.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yesterday just so happened to be a pretty heavy win
for the defense and every unit by the way, and
well yeah, especially for the second team. Yes, every single right,
every single year it had had their wins. But more
than anything, more than anything, I'd say the refs are
gonna be calling it tight. They are out here yesterday

(46:11):
last they're here too, and Sean even alluded to it
in his press conference specifically saying, hey, I want these
guys to be working on it now.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
If it's even close, go ahead and throw the flag.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
I want I want technique to be the focus now.
I want alignment to be the focus now. Because Pat Bryan,
for example, wasn't on the line who's cover up the
tight end? So you know that that's an example right
there where you need to know, you need to know
that you're hears that's right.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
So and that's one of those things like you want
to you want to clean that up. You want the.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Emphasis to be the emphasis. You know, to use a
tutology at this point in camp if you want to.
You want to get all that stuff. No mental mistakes,
no unforced errors. If you're gonna make an error, you
know you want it to be in the heat of battle,
not lining up exactly.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
So the pre stab penalties people start panicking about that,
it's actually the opposite. I'm glad they're getting this out
of the way and we reference it. Guess on k Sports,
if you remember last year on the Thursday night football
game with the Ravens, and when they just kept calling
those the alignment with the offensive tackle, and you're thinking, like,
how is this a thing?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Now? Why are we doing this now? This should have
been worked out.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
And meanwhile, of course the Kansas City Chiefs with Juwan Taylor,
who's also not even as day put it in the
same zip code. He's not getting called because it is
the Chiefs, but the Ravens over and over and over again,
we're getting that penalty. These are the things you want
to be doing at this point in camp, not in
the first game of the season, right.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Yeah, you know with Johan Taylor, man, it's him playing
h back, running back and tackle at the same time.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
It's just a fascinating I'm a peacock. You gotta let
me fly here on the sad. There you go. Somebody
got it?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, well, I.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Mean I got it. I just I don't.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
It can continue to give you credit for things like that,
because then you feel emboldened to keep doing it.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I feel like if I.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Just breeze past it one day, you'll just stop making
a toto. You should have been on the top Gun
soundtrack reference one day.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Well, I don't know Toto was going to be on
the top gun sound.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Yeah, I know, somebody told me that, some total insider
at all bright Toto up the.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Last bar I went to, I walked in and they
had they had hold the line up. It was playing
and like they had the music video up on some
of the screens, you know, and I was like, I'm home.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
These are my people. Just so fuddy.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
It's like, yeah, it's cool when you go to a
place that plays the B sides for your favorite band.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, hold the lines a big, big B side. Are
you really going to run more wide zone this year?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yes, yes, and a simple and a simple answer absolutely
in a word yes yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Well they did a self scout and and real, I mean.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
The two most effective run plays in football over the
last six seven years are duo and wide zone outside zone.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
And so that's you know, I think they're you know this,
this coaching staff, whether they pretend or not, they are
big on analytics, and that is one of the things
that you know that they don't do enough up. They
don't run outside zone. They didn't partly run at all
last year, and so they want to do more of that,
especially with guys they feel like and you know, had
the athleticism to be able to get out there do that.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
If you had Javonte, you may want you know, you
may run a little less of that.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
But if you got you know, McLoughlin, Harvey and JK.
Dobbins running that, that makes a lot more sense.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Okay, five six, six nine zero our ka Commas spirit
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Speaker 3 (49:30):
He is not going to stick around and and oh.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
He didn't want to, didn't want after talking all that mess,
he didn't want it.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Oh, Ferd, But you know what you want? That smoke
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Speaker 5 (49:45):
No, I never, never, ever I went on his show
and recommended doing that.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
I bet you did. In fact, I know you did.
That's a big bin all bright thing. So Rick's gonna
join us coming up next very excited to chat with him.
He's got a show coming up too, though, I want
to make sure we promote in preview because we have
his drum tech sitting here in Ben alright, all on
one to the other.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
I think it's important that Ben gets the credit he
deserves on the drum tech. I don't side hustle. It's
basically a side hustle at this point. But I'm about
to hire him full time. Oh, medical and dentel are included.
Well four one k whoa, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
This economy might be a two to one k.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
But yeah, by the way, if you missed Ben Filly
good for Ross, then there's some levels to that joke there.
All right again, we're live out here Broncos Park, powered
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Speaker 3 (50:34):
We'll right back, okay away. Who are you again? And
what are you doing here