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doing that. Uh that problem. It's one of those. One
of the other things I love doing is uh getting
to uh to bring in people that work here at
KOA on the show. And this one means something to me.
It's uh, my good friend Tony manis part of the
black T Shirt mafia. Is is retired? Is hanging them up?
You guys here Tony doing the news updates. But I
wanted to get you in here for a segment Man,
(01:23):
and then and chop it up before you get out
the door. And thanks for coming in and sitting in
with me.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No, this is what what a thrill. I get to
listen to this show every night. I have to listen
to the show, and I get to churching it up
just a little bit. I would choose to listen to
this show if I wasn't here.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I usually say I have to listen Greg Grant remind
Garrett Gregg keeps the ego Dah, that wouldn't be room
for me and my ego in the studio. If gret
and keep it in check. But you got your you
got your start. I think, if I remember correctly, in
sports you were doing, you were doing uh cutwork for
like the Pacers back in the day. Yeah, back when
I was a young guy.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
My first real radio job was in Indianapolis, and I
was I was basically just.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A sports report a stringer.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So I would I would cover the Pacers, and I
would cover the Colts, and I would cover the Indianapolis
Indians of Triple A fame.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It was a great job, just so much fun. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I envy you for the job that you get to do,
because you get to go and talk, you get to
watch first.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Of all these world class athletes. I'm only in it
for the free tickets. I mean, let's be honest here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I believe most sports reporters and anchors are in it
for only that. And I don't believe that the average
person realizes all of the perks. Huh that I mean
because when you go to when you go to a
Broncos game, they probably feeds you breakfast.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, I'm never there early right by the time I
because we have through the shows here on Sunday, So
by the time I get Oh, they do feed me
lunch and dinner, and it's very good. Again, Broncos food
is usually pretty good. There's one or two meals out
of the year that you're kind of like, well they
mailed that one in.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But other than that, it's it's not always the same thing.
It's never the same thing. It's always different, right, it changes.
It's like every game is it's a different it's a
different breakfast, a different lunch, and a different dinner. Then
after the game you get to go down into the
locker room and interview these athletes that we as fans
just get to see on television and you actually.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Get to know them.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's a great gig being in sports. The thing is
is that there's just not that many sports radio jobs anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, and I would say I'm extremely lucky to have
I had no like did you start did you start
off wanting to get into radio? And those kinds of
things like did what did you want to do when
you first started that?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, Benjamin, when I was in high school, I was
like a lot of people that ended up in radio,
you know, barely scraping by get a C minus and
happy with that. And then my senior year of high school,
we had a radio station.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh wow, at the high school. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And so I took that as a class and loved
the teacher and loved the class. And that's where I
was bitten by the radio bug. And as they say,
once you're bitten by it, it's kind of an incurable disease.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I will say, there's truth because I had never I
had I had no intention of going into radio whatsoever.
This was never even an afterthought, right for me. I
started off. I think most people know it's military, and
then you know, after that, I own an IT company.
It's told that retire for a while, and so I
wound up back dooring my weight, which nobody does. Nobody
just jumps on to cato. Ay, right, So I am
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extremely lucky when it comes to all that. I know,
I ham it up as you know, and all this
other stuff. But I recognize I'm extremely lucky with all that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But it does like once you get the bug, like
once you do it, it's addicting.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Like you love, you get on this microphone, you're either one.
You either realize that you don't have anything to say right,
or you get sort of I don't want say addicted
to the attention, but sort of addicted to the concept
of I get to air it out every night. I
get to take all this stuff that's cluttered up in
my head and put it out there every night. And
there are people that, for whatever reason, choose to listen
to it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Well, when this little red light comes out of the microphone,
it's a rush. Immediately you turn that microphone on it
and you become a different person. You can feel the
excitement inside of yourself as you get to share these
things and interact with the listener, right, and and for me,
and I'll let the listeners in all this something I
you know, I was in a dream.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I always thought it would never happen. But I was
in a dream of like getting into like stand up comedy, huh, Right,
And so I enjoy entertaining. I enjoy doing that and
I get to do like a little bit of that
every night and sneak in the dumb jokes and you know,
and that kind of stuff. And it really is, it
really is fascinatingly addictive. I I always love you know,
you guys, there's so much work that goes and they
don't see behind the scenes, but there's so much work
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that goes into, uh, the journalism aspect and the news
and what you guys do for the updates at the
top and bottom of the hour, or you got a
doork like me who's just sitting here wringing it and
making joke, you know, cracking checks. I got a comedian
coming up there. You were the opening act for Earthquake tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
By the way, Well, earlier the week, Benjamin asked me
to come on the show, and he said there was
going to be a comedian on that night as well.
And the old line that we all know is never
follow a comedian, right, so I said, please put me on.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Before the comedian. Well, that's right, because after the comedians
on and putting sack seekers, I'm letting the I'm letting
the young guys act. I'm letting the young guys do
the mop up work tonight with grant In Zachs, so
that I don't have to sit there and follow my
own interview with the commediany. So we'll see how that goes.
But no, Tony Man, I gotta say it is it's
interesting because we have these long breaks on KOA and
so like I get a chance to come out there
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and kind of shoot it with you a little bit
and all that kind of stuff. I'm gonna miss your man.
I'm gonna miss you around here hanging it up, you know,
after all this time, and I'd like going out there
and the dumbest stuff that I'd like going out there
and doing quantum physics or whatever. You know, I'm gonna
mission the discourse that we've had doing all this kind
of stuff. So I just want to tell you, man,
like you are going to be missed around here by me. Well,
that's very kind of you to say.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And as you work in this business, you get to
you get to work every now and then with some
really talented people.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I want to break this to the listener.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Not everyone who works in radio, that you work with
in any particular radio station, Not everyone's talented.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I know this first hand from I mean I don't know.
I know this for myself. People people end up in
radio and.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Somehow survive even without talent. But when you are a
person who gets to work with some one like you
who has so much knowledge and is so good at
presenting that knowledge and being entertaining as well, which many
radio people forget that we're in the entertainment business. That's
the other buzz for me, Benjamin, it's like this business
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is filled with misfits.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It kind of is. There's sort of a I mean,
there's an inherent arrogance necessary to do this right. You
have to feel that what you have to say is
either important enough or entertaining enough that people want to
listen to it. Right. There has to be starting and
so they're kind of is. But to say like that
there is you were talking about that dopamine hit when
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the when the light comes on. And there's sort of
it because when people text me on the text line,
I don't read them all. I try to read a
lot of them because I want people to be involved
in the conversation. But the complimentary stuff like dude, that
hits like nothing else. When somebody says I was listening
to the show last night and I couldn't stop laughing.
There is no better feeling than somebody than a joke
landing or a piece of information making somebody think a
(08:00):
little bit, or making their day with that kind of stuff.
And for me, I don't tell Da've temper this. That
is the reward of doing the jumb you know. The
reward is the paycheck. If you guys wanted to bump that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Tony and I would be down anytime, any time. But Benjamin,
that to me, that is really the highest compliment that
can be paid to a radio talent, is that.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You are sitting here in this room.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oftentimes with Nick, but oftentimes by yourself, and you're talking,
and you're connecting with a person who's probably alone in
the car by themselves, and they're laughing at something you said.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
There's no greater magic in radio than that. Yeah. And
the dynamic has changed too. The dynamic has change because
you know, you think about radio and you think about
the history of radio, it would have been people gathered
around the radio, and now the television sort of changed
that dynamic. Obviously, the dynamic has changed. What has been
the biggest change in radio through the years that you've
been doing it, well, obviously the technology. Yeah, I mean
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it still comes down.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
To somebody sitting behind microphone sharing information or being entertaining.
But I think it's all the things around us now,
you know, sitting in front of a computer screen now.
I mean, Benjamin, I'm a little bit older than you.
That's why I'm able to retire only a year or two.
But I stud double for you in most peoples, you
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do and do an outstanding job and deserve more money
from my ankle.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
The last one, I'm just saying, you know, could we
not do those? You know, if we could not do
the parkour stuff, Tony, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
But the record, I mean, I'm playing, playing albums using
a cart machine, all of those.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
No idea what you're referring to, right.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
The computer has changed everything, as it has in pretty
much any business in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It has. There's a lot of I would suggest not
having been through that then, but I would say now,
it feels like there are more distractions now, right because
and I've been guilty of that. But when i'm you know,
especially when I was one with Ryan and Ryan was driving.
Now that I'm driving, like I have to pay attention, huh,
But there are been times I would drift off on
my phone or in the middle of a conversation. You know,
three TVs in here, three computer screenings, my phone. There's
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so much more distraction. And I think that that applies
on a maybe a broader sort of term as well,
Like to the listener, there's so many more distractions. So
you all, you do get thankful that people stay dialed
into you for you know, twenty to twenty five minutes
at a time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But but doing what you do being a Broncos insider
in the information, hasn't that also increased the ways that
you get this information and you get it more immediately.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Some I like, I it's interesting, and now I feel
like we're interviewing me instead of you. Good way to
turn that around, obviously, that's a pro, right there. Just
turn it right around on me. We're interviewing me instead
of him.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
A reporter fame mustache, Yeah, this is right.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I'm surrounded by Hall of Fame facial hair right now.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, you know, imagamin, people really want three things. They
want a mustache like Grants, they want muscles like Nicks,
and they want a black T shirt collection like yours.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well really all that any guy was save that? Save
that right there, putting that in the problem. You joined
the black T shirt mo for those who don't know,
because I'm all in. He's all in. So like I
wear I think most people know I wear black T
shirts all the time. That's that's kind of a thing.
It has nothing to do with Steve Jobs. It has
to do with it's super easy when you wake up
in the morning, you just grab a T shirt and go.
(11:12):
And Tony now has been wearing the black T shirts
all that they join the Black T Shirt Mafia.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Plus plus it's just and then you can just go
with the black Cantis shoes so easy.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Every matches everything. You never have to worry about anything.
But what I anyway, I think that you know, for me,
it was eye opening to because I started this, I
started doing this radio thing in twenty nineteen. It was
eye opening to me to see all the things that
go into it behind the scenes and what you guys
do for the you know, the top of the body hour,
you know, news breaks and all that kind of which
I think is vital to what we do. It's it's
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in a world that is surrounded by micro clips on
TikTok and podcasts and everything else. Having an all encompassing
news wheel that allows us to get in there and
hit all the topics of the day during what would
normally be like a commercial break and allows the you know,
the listener to stay caught up on all of the
things without having to have fifteen things going at the time.
(12:02):
And I love that about the station. But there's so
much that goes into that how I mean, you are
constantly scanning the wire and all that kind of things.
Kind of I guess I want you to kind of
break down for the listener what it is that you're
doing here when they're not when you're not on the air,
and they're you know, and they're getting their news from you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, as you know, the news is ongoing, so never
stops throughout the day here at KOA. We have a
great staff and those people are spending their day gathering
stories as they happen. So when I get here, I
start writing news stories. I have to do a bunch
of newscasts every night, so I need a bunch of content,
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and it continually is updated and it's always coming in.
So it's writing, writing, writing, finding audio cuts, you know,
cuts of Sean Payton talking about something or you know
that kind of stuff, and you have to edit that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That takes time, and then you'll be in the middle
of that and then.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Another story will break, so you're over here. It's definitely
not the kind of job for someone who just likes
to be in a h in a routine.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah. No, this is why we all have adhd R. No,
it absolutely is. I say jokingly, but there's you know,
the truth to it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like I said, there's a bunch of misfits in this business,
and there's a bunch of people who also are are
bored easily.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, very very very true.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know, it's like you know the squirrel, yep, pretty
much that has to be he ordered to keep up
with all of it you do. And that's and and
that's a real talent is and to be able to
go squirrel over there and still keep your uh, still
keep some sort of fuck that the listener can understand.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
One of my favorite memories a couple months ago, I
think we had the stock market in a free fall,
Israel was bombing, I ran or whatever, and I'm over
here running around like a chicken with my head cut
off because there's like six breaking stories at once, and
Tony's just like as cool as ice, just sitting there
like I got this mental work, We'll get it me up.
They don't worry about it, you know, I'm run it
out there with the next breaking thing. You were. My
young paddawan apprentice just just called down over here. What
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what advice would you get to anybody? Any young kids
that are listening right now, looking to to make this
a besides don't well, I mean it kind of comes back.
It's almost like a trade school job. Now you don't
have to go to college to get into radio. I
didn't go to school for us.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, and many people just aren't cut out to go
to school, and I was. You know, my parents paid
for six years of college on the.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Van Wilder plan and wild loosely based on the life
of Tony manus Way and for the undergraduate degree, you know,
six years.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So my parents were just We're just happy to see
me go into radio. It's definitely again, you're judged on
your talent, you're judged on your hard work.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's pretty much it. How have I skated through a knobskin?
Well before we get into break here and the anything
nasty you want to say about Rob Dawson real quick,
He's totally not back there in the control room, you know,
if you want to listen or anything, Yeah, if you
want to gi us any dirt, well, you know, he's
a boy wonder he is. He is. He is kind
of always get back there. He's a boy wonder whiz kids.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And this radio station in the news department is in
fine hands with Rob Dawson running the show.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, Tony, it's been in five hands with you running
the show. You are going to be missed around here
by me. I cannot tell you enough how much of
about a mission, man, And thanks for sitting in with
me for a little bit. Get a chance to chat
it up, and hopefully some of these young aspiring kids
that want to get into this industry can follow your
fine example.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Be afraid you know, Zach Siegers. There's a good example
right there working young manta. Come in, get your foot
in the door, do whatever you're asked to do, and
just ride the wave to the opposite of whatever Benjamin
Olbright does.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And your gold in this business, Tony, you are gold
in my book. And I appreciate you coming on, brother,
Thank you man. You absolutely brocos Country night back with
Earthquake after this all Bright here with you, Grant Smith
back there producing five six six nine zero is the
text line. We're efforting comedian Earthquake. Who's going to be
(15:51):
I believe joining us here in a few minutes. We'll
see if we get that squared away. Comedians are notoriously
on time, punctual, very regiment. Exactly what I was gonna
say so we'll uh, well, we'll see about all that.
Earthquake one of my one of my favorites. Man. I
saw him back in the day on Comicview. I was
one of the I think the first time I saw
him in person would have been like I think it
(16:11):
was four and the Little Rock. I have to ask him,
uh and and I'll see if he remembers me, because
I would have I stood out in that audience that
night he did the death Jam comedy show. Yeah, I
used to dut Jam and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
used to see him on all that stuff. Uh. His
My favorite bit of his and I'll get into that
when he gets when he gets on is the Spades
bit about having it possible. It's one of my favorite
(16:32):
bits because I you know, I was big space player
when I was in the military, and Earthquake actually was
in the Air Force. He can probably understand that's probably
where that was born. But uh, we'll see, we'll see
how that goes. Uh efforting efforting that as we speak.
So looking forward to uh toely talking to him.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Thanks to Tony Manus for joining me in last night.
It was big for me. Man I. I I'm I'm
a huge fan of Tony Matus like Tony. You may
not know this, but I'm a big fan of mate
is Tony. I For those of you who don't know,
Tony works out. Uh just as I walk outside the
studio and to the left, he's out kind of back
there in the bullpen working. And for me, like when
(17:14):
you get into late nights here and especially when I'm
on the air by myself and Grant has heard my
jokes five thousand times, I I will go lab new
material on Tony and if Tony laughs, then I know
the material is good enough to bring it to air.
And if he doesn't, I'm like, Okay, I gotta I
got a punt on that. Like that's not somebody to
rework that punch, Yeah, I gotta. I gotta rework out
or rework the timing or rework the inflection or something.
(17:36):
But like that's that's one of those things. Like I
would go out there and I would lab material during
the breaks on Tony and see if it, you know,
see if it hit, and then come back here and
bring it to air or try to tighten up a
little bit, whatever the case may be. And I just
I I appreciate the camaraderie and the collegiality that we've
had over the last couple of years where I can
(17:57):
just kind of go out there and you know, shoot
the you know, up with him. It's one of the things,
like one of the jokes I did not bring to
air was I was gonna I was going to introduce
Tony as the lead singer of Tony Tony Tony. I
didn't know if that joke was gonna land, and then
go into my bit about how I you know, I've
always wanted to see a dual headlining concert of Tony
Tony Tony and Wet Wet Wet, just for the symmetry, so,
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you know, and I didn't know if that joke would land,
but totally laughter both of them. So I was like,
all right, we're gonna make this. We're gonna make this work.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You know what I'll always always remember about Tony as
uh this year during the Pacers playoff run to the finals,
and you know, we talked about him working for the
Pacers back in the day and like he just the
the level of fan hood he had for them well
in Houston too, and he.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And I were at Houston and as our champion in
the brackets. So he and I were battling it out.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, and like you said, he's one of the only
other people here at night when we're doing our show.
So like he's one of the people that you're always
talking to on a daily basis. And he was always
just always a profession which, like he said, you know,
some people are here just to be here.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, so you always into the job. Well, yeah, Tony was.
Tony's always somebody you aspired to and exceled at. And
I'm gonna miss I'm gonna miss that mustache and the
black T shirt mafia stuff, right because he really did.
He like totally leaned into it after we after we
start doing that. So I I'm always gonna appreciate Tony's
contributions around here. It's it's kind of a sad day
(19:25):
for me, man, Like it's one of those like sad
part of the crew. They Yeah, that's so I'm saying, it's
part of this place gets pretty dead around here at night,
and so like it's one of those things like you
you know, you get kind of you get kind of
used to the people that are here and you get
those connections and you just yeah, it's just sad. I'm
wishing Tony well and whatever it is that he goes
on to do. And of course you know you got
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my number, Tony get beer.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Anytime we know, whoever comes into replace something, no matter
how good they are, they're not gonna be as cool
as Tony.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Wow, you can't be like that. Dude was as cool
as the other side of the pillow man. And I'm
so glad he grew as a mustache back out. Yeah,
after he shaved it, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
It was like when Nick Ferguson shaved. I was like,
is Grant Smith next? Let's good that what's happening here?
I did think about it the other day, like the
Evening the aside for me, the Evening Show does have
its quotion to facial hair. The Evening staff right, here's
(20:14):
there's this quote, f there's pretty good beer. The beer
going on now, so we'll see. I got a text
from former co worker here, Mark Stout, and we know
we are talking during the break like maybe that was
a little too much inside baseball for for Broncos Country,
but how much we thoroughly enjoyed that. And Mark Stout,
former worker here. He said that Tony segment was really awesome.
(20:36):
Oh well, thanks Mark, Yeah, that's that's one of those
that's like like for me personally, rewarding segments that that
we get to do around here and all that kind
of stuff. Tomorrow, I think we're gonna have Coach Gruton.
I'm not a hundred on that yet, so I don't
want to guarantee that, but we're working on that. To
get coach Gruton on. We will bring the funk, we
will bring the funk. Ric Lueless to be here for
(20:56):
what the Funk Thursday and then we had I've been
in news. She had to cancel. So we'll get him
next week. I think he's gonna be here in Koe,
be here in studio and we'll get a chance to
chat up with the former Broncos down roster quarterback about
the preseason all that kind of stuff. And you know
what it's like at the annual meeting of the Benz
how we're trying to vote that affleck guy out. So
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he's a funny guy though, So we'll get a chance
to talk to him probably next week as well. We'll
see a firthquake if we can get I'm dealing with
the text. Now, we'll see if we can get that going.
But it looks like I don't know anyway. Some other
news real quick as I'm as I'm looking here. It
may interest only me, maybe it interests some of the
(21:40):
degenerates out there. Grant sent me this one earlier. College football,
the over under totals. You know what the most bet
over total is for the season, it's the SEU Buffs,
the five and a half wins that the sports book
has put out for CU. The over is the most
bet over. But as things go in betting odds, guess
(22:05):
who the most bet under is. It's also Colorado Gambling
Problems one hundred gambler. The coach Prime effect is real.
I mean the most bet over but also the most
bet under in college football at BETMGM right now is
the is the season win total for the c Buffs?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, I mean people love him or hate him. I
bet I bet our guy Brian is on the under.
Oh guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I bet he's on the under. He's got a coach
Prime tonight, he's got a double down on it. He's
gotta put a second ticket. I would take the over
on that. Look at the schedule. I would take the
over on that, but I don't think it's much over that.
I haven't that seven wins. I think five and a
half I feel is just too late. If it were
six and a half, I wouldn't take the ticket just
because that's you know, the flexibility there. But five and
(22:50):
a half, it's It's gonna be an interesting year because
this is the year that you're gonna find out if
coach Prime can coach or if it really was all
she dore.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And Travis Hunter well, and he's also dealing with the
health issue, right I mean, he had that comment during
his presser. You know you see a porter potty on
the sideline, which.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Is right away, what an advertising opportunity. Oh guaranteed he's
gonna make some money off of that. I mean, if
your dude wipes, are you not trying to get on
the side of that porta potty somehow? I'm just saying,
like Lysol, if you're Lysol, are you not trying to
get on the side of that?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right now, I don't even know who makes hand sanitizer,
but prell poel, are you.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Not trying to get on the side of that? I
was gonna say, I don't know who makes the blue
goo at the Bunch juice, But if you want to,
if you want to be branded, is the blue juice
in the port of body. Why are you not trying
to call Colorado right now and see if you can't
get some advertising on the side of that porta potty.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Coach Prime will make you the highest selling blue juice
there is.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'm just saying, and that blue juice is universal. We
had that blue juice when I was in a rack
that's global. Yeah, when we had like his. Initially when
I was there, we had to make our own you know,
bathrooms and all that kind of stuff, and we take
the lowest rank in private and make pour some JP
eight in there and then go stir it up and
burn it. But after we got we got actual porta
potties out there, like on my second tour. And that
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blue juice is universe. It's everywhere, It's everywhere. I'm just
saying five six, six nine zeros of textcept that that
that fascinates me, that it is both the most bet
over and the most bet under.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Right, because I saw I saw the first half of
that when when I was sending it to you, and
I was like, Okay, that makes sense. They're only five
and a half wins. Everyone thinks they're gonna win at
least six games. And then read the rest of it
and I'm like, damn, it really is just a love
hate relationship with Coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Like there are some things that are like that right now. We,
you know, and I recognize that we've become so polarized
as a society, and I think part of that, not
to tie it back to comedy or anything, is because
we don't make fun of ourselves anymore. But we're so
bitter and sort of acrimonious in the way that we
we pick sides on everything. You gotta be blue or red,
left or right, Republican or Democrat, Caitlin Clark or Angel
(24:55):
Angel Reese, you know, and we don't. We really don't
have to do that, We really don't, but we do
it anyway. And I sort of I feel like a
lot of that is because we become I don't know
if he becomes so sensitive or what, but it feels
to me like in the post nine to eleven era,
(25:15):
we really have gotten bitchy.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, And it's so ingrained in our own beliefs that
we can't see the other side of the.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, so dogmatic that we're unwilling to look through the
other lives even if we don't agree with it. Someone.
I miss the days when political discourse was quibbling over
marginal tax rates. That's what I miss.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, And you know, you know, you look at the
presidential debates from you know, the nineties and the early
two thousands, and.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Look at the Romney Barack Obama debate. Right, so much
respect and the equips were there, but it was like respectful,
and now it's it's Cherry Springer. Yeah, you know, it's gross.
I half expect him to rise from the grave and
up in there to mediate a you know, a political
debate at this point. But I had former mayor Yeah,
I mean yeah Cincinnati, yep, you know why I got
(26:08):
in trouble, right oh yeah, right in that check who
days for a hook or with a check god, a
personal check, like Jerry, what were you doing? Brow? He
found his calling, Yeah, he really did find his going.
But like I digress, I think that it really is
a shame how we've become so and a lot of
that I you know, I attributed it to post nine
(26:29):
eleven or really the attribution here should be to the Internet,
because we can get away with saying things behind a
screen that we could not say to somebody's face. We
say things consequence free from behind anonymous social media accounts
that you would not say in person. That people say
things to me like, I get it all the time
people say things to me. There is no way you'd
say that to me in person, because you know what
(26:51):
would happened, right, get punched in the face. Yeah, he
get knocked out when.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
The fear of getting punched in the face is gone
for a lot more willing to say the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Fear of consequence does just that. But the fear of
consequence saying that it really has made us a lot
more acerbic to each other. And you know it's something
that I lamit because I like and maybe I'm weird
because I like the whole like roast culture thing. You know.
I got talked to Nick and Steve about that a
lot off the air, Like during the breaks, we talk
about that because the jokes, you know, and some of
(27:22):
those are not you know, I got to clean them
up to put them on the air, but like there
there are you know, I like it when people roast me,
like I was when I was on with Dave and
Ryan a couple of weeks ago and we were talking
about a funeral or whatever, and I was like, yeah,
I are a memorial or a retirement party. And I
was like, yeah, I would hope that Nicki Glazer would
host that, right, And David was like, no, you win.
(27:43):
I'm like, yes, I would like I enjoy that whole
like roast culture thing.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Well, And I think that's why, you know, the roast
culture and comedy are so important to our culture because
it's it's it makes big issues, are heavier issues laughable.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, And that's what comedy should be. It should be
speaking truths to power, and it should be allowing us
to laugh at our own plight, and it should also
be poking fun at those who take themselves too seriously.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like even going back to like George Carlin. Yeah, that's
what made him so great, phenomenal comedian. He would talk
about very heavy, serious things but also make you laugh
about it.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And I don't know that we have a Carlin today.
It doesn't feel like we do. There have been times
where there have been people that have spoken truth to power.
You know, what made The Daily Show so great was
that John Stewart would skewer you left or right now.
John Stewart is left on the political spectrum, but The
Daily Show would skewer all of it. Absolutely make fun
of Democrats for being, you know, the idiots that they
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were being at the time. And I certainly appreciated that.
And that doesn't feel like anybody stepped into that vacuum.
I thought Colbert, what he was doing in Colbert Rapport
was an interesting bit of satire. I didn't really care
for Colbert's you know, late night show on Cbswordy well,
but no one did apparently. I mean, honestly, it's the
highest rated one album to cancel it and it's like
the highest rated show. Those shows are dying though, because
people don't watch TV the way they used to. Now.
(29:04):
Nobody like I mean that used to be appointment television. Carson,
stuff like that used to be used to be appointment television. Uh,
and but nobody watches TV like that anymore. Because you
have your phone and you could watch whatever you want.
We have so many options, and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
If something funny happens, you'll just see the clip of
it the next day.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right, And that's so you don't have to you know,
you didn't have to be there in the moment for
it the way that you did. There used to be,
things aren't the way they used to be. Like, you
had to be there for the final episode of Mash
you had to be there for the final episode of
The Huxtables, The Cosby Show, you had to be there
for uh, for those cuts. If you had to be
there for six feet under, one of the one of
(29:42):
the greatest finales to a show ever. You had to
be there for those you know what? Anymore, you can
watch the clip the next day.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, And I mean I still have like vivid memories
from my childhood of my mom and a couple of
her girlfriends all the time and getting getting together every
weeknight when Friends was.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
On type where parties and then watching the watching the Friends, Yeah,
the last episode, because you don't know when you're gonna
get a chance to see it again. The final episode
of Seinfeld those are you didn't have, You barely had.
I don't think you had TiVo at that point. No,
I don't remember it being a thing. If it was,
it wasn't widespread at that point. If it was, if
it was around, it was a rich person thing. Well,
I mean I'm just saying it. It had not been. Uh,
(30:22):
it had not been I think five six six times.
There was a text line Brian says, did you see
Lonnie Anderson passed? Well, yeah, I did. I did it. Actually,
you know what it made me remember it? Maybe remember
that Burt Reynolds was in that. Uh you remember Evening Shade. No,
it was a show about Arkansas. Uh, it was a
comedy show Burt Reynolds did about Arkansas. And uh that's
what you know going down the rabitle, That's what it
(30:43):
reminded me of that. I'd totally forgotten that Evening Shade
was a was a show, so that, you know, that's
one of those things that that brought that up. Somebody
asked if Diann is capable of making funds. I think
he is. I think, you know, I think I think
it does come through in the media coverage that's out there.
(31:04):
But I would say if you've been around behind the
scenes on that stuff, that he absolutely will lampoon himself.
I think he's a very self aware person. Oh yeah,
I believe that he all aspects of his life, and
I think he knows what he's doing when he pokes
the bear and splits, you know, and splits opinion on him,
and he's like, yeah, I split a pin on on
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me and then I rake both sides like Colorado is
with both the over and the undertow exactly where the
book is anyway. But yeah, that's that's sort of sort
of fascinating me. Sorry, we were to ever able to
get Earthquake. I'll follow up on that and see if
we can't get him tomorrow. I know he's gonna be
in town tomorrow to dever Improv. He's gonna be there tomorrow,
two shows Friday, two shows Saturday to dever Improv. So
if you guys want tickets, you got improv dot Com
(31:47):
and get those tickets. Said that we didn't get chance
to get him on the day, but maybe we'll get
a chance to get him on tomorrow before the show
and see if see if we can do something like that.
We come back, Zach, Seeger's gonna drop in on us,
get a chance to talk to him about the latest
and greatest, and uh, you guys will be we'll be
previewing a little bit of the the preseason game. Join
us at the Burndown by the Way Burnout Bar over
there on Broadway. That's a great spot Saturday night myself.
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I'll be here to be here. Tell them didn't I,
Well I will. Uh. I'd say I bring you something back,
but I'm probably not gonna do that either. I'd stay
there if I were right, then well, I'm gonna have
to come back here anyway. But yeah, if you guys
were listen, you guys want to get a chance to come
out myself, Nick Ferguson, watch the preseason game with us.
We're gonna beat the burnout all year for the away games.
(32:30):
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doing that. Uh that problem. It's one of those. One
of the other things I love doing is uh getting
to uh to bring in people that work here at
KOA on the show. And this one means something to me.
It's uh, my good friend Tony manis part of the
black T Shirt mafia. Is is retired? Is hanging them up?
You guys here Tony doing the news updates. But I
wanted to get you in here for a segment Man,
(01:23):
and then and chop it up before you get out
the door. And thanks for coming in and sitting in
with me.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No, this is what what a thrill. I get to
listen to this show every night. I have to listen
to the show, and I get to churching it up
just a little bit. I would choose to listen to
this show if I wasn't here.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I usually say I have to listen Greg Grant remind
Garrett Gregg keeps the ego Dah, that wouldn't be room
for me and my ego in the studio. If gret
and keep it in check. But you got your you
got your start. I think, if I remember correctly, in
sports you were doing, you were doing uh cutwork for
like the Pacers back in the day. Yeah, back when
I was a young guy.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
My first real radio job was in Indianapolis, and I
was I was basically just.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A sports report a stringer.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So I would I would cover the Pacers, and I
would cover the Colts, and I would cover the Indianapolis
Indians of Triple A fame.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It was a great job, just so much fun. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I envy you for the job that you get to do,
because you get to go and talk, you get to
watch first.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Of all these world class athletes. I'm only in it
for the free tickets. I mean, let's be honest here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I believe most sports reporters and anchors are in it
for only that. And I don't believe that the average
person realizes all of the perks. Huh that I mean
because when you go to when you go to a
Broncos game, they probably feeds you breakfast.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, I'm never there early right by the time I
because we have through the shows here on Sunday, So
by the time I get Oh, they do feed me
lunch and dinner, and it's very good. Again, Broncos food
is usually pretty good. There's one or two meals out
of the year that you're kind of like, well they
mailed that one in.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But other than that, it's it's not always the same thing.
It's never the same thing. It's always different, right, it changes.
It's like every game is it's a different it's a
different breakfast, a different lunch, and a different dinner. Then
after the game you get to go down into the
locker room and interview these athletes that we as fans
just get to see on television and you actually.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Get to know them.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's a great gig being in sports. The thing is
is that there's just not that many sports radio jobs anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, and I would say I'm extremely lucky to have
I had no like did you start did you start
off wanting to get into radio? And those kinds of
things like did what did you want to do when
you first started that?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, Benjamin, when I was in high school, I was
like a lot of people that ended up in radio,
you know, barely scraping by get a C minus and
happy with that. And then my senior year of high school,
we had a radio station.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh wow, at the high school. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And so I took that as a class and loved
the teacher and loved the class. And that's where I
was bitten by the radio bug. And as they say,
once you're bitten by it, it's kind of an incurable disease.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I will say, there's truth because I had never I
had I had no intention of going into radio whatsoever.
This was never even an afterthought, right for me. I
started off. I think most people know it's military, and
then you know, after that, I own an IT company.
It's told that retire for a while, and so I
wound up back dooring my weight, which nobody does. Nobody
just jumps on to cato. Ay, right, So I am
(04:19):
extremely lucky when it comes to all that. I know,
I ham it up as you know, and all this
other stuff. But I recognize I'm extremely lucky with all that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But it does like once you get the bug, like
once you do it, it's addicting.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Like you love, you get on this microphone, you're either one.
You either realize that you don't have anything to say right,
or you get sort of I don't want say addicted
to the attention, but sort of addicted to the concept
of I get to air it out every night. I
get to take all this stuff that's cluttered up in
my head and put it out there every night. And
there are people that, for whatever reason, choose to listen
to it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Well, when this little red light comes out of the microphone,
it's a rush. Immediately you turn that microphone on it
and you become a different person. You can feel the
excitement inside of yourself as you get to share these
things and interact with the listener, right, and and for me,
and I'll let the listeners in all this something I
you know, I was in a dream.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I always thought it would never happen. But I was
in a dream of like getting into like stand up comedy, huh, Right,
And so I enjoy entertaining. I enjoy doing that and
I get to do like a little bit of that
every night and sneak in the dumb jokes and you know,
and that kind of stuff. And it really is, it
really is fascinatingly addictive. I I always love you know,
you guys, there's so much work that goes and they
don't see behind the scenes, but there's so much work
(05:28):
that goes into, uh, the journalism aspect and the news
and what you guys do for the updates at the
top and bottom of the hour, or you got a
doork like me who's just sitting here wringing it and
making joke, you know, cracking checks. I got a comedian
coming up there. You were the opening act for Earthquake tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
By the way, Well, earlier the week, Benjamin asked me
to come on the show, and he said there was
going to be a comedian on that night as well.
And the old line that we all know is never
follow a comedian, right, so I said, please put me on.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Before the comedian. Well, that's right, because after the comedians
on and putting sack seekers, I'm letting the I'm letting
the young guys act. I'm letting the young guys do
the mop up work tonight with grant In Zachs, so
that I don't have to sit there and follow my
own interview with the commediany. So we'll see how that goes.
But no, Tony Man, I gotta say it is it's
interesting because we have these long breaks on KOA and
so like I get a chance to come out there
(06:13):
and kind of shoot it with you a little bit
and all that kind of stuff. I'm gonna miss your man.
I'm gonna miss you around here hanging it up, you know,
after all this time, and I'd like going out there
and the dumbest stuff that I'd like going out there
and doing quantum physics or whatever. You know, I'm gonna
mission the discourse that we've had doing all this kind
of stuff. So I just want to tell you, man,
like you are going to be missed around here by me. Well,
that's very kind of you to say.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And as you work in this business, you get to
you get to work every now and then with some
really talented people.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I want to break this to the listener.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Not everyone who works in radio, that you work with
in any particular radio station, Not everyone's talented.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I know this first hand from I mean I don't know.
I know this for myself. People people end up in
radio and.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Somehow survive even without talent. But when you are a
person who gets to work with some one like you
who has so much knowledge and is so good at
presenting that knowledge and being entertaining as well, which many
radio people forget that we're in the entertainment business. That's
the other buzz for me, Benjamin, it's like this business
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is filled with misfits.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It kind of is. There's sort of a I mean,
there's an inherent arrogance necessary to do this right. You
have to feel that what you have to say is
either important enough or entertaining enough that people want to
listen to it. Right. There has to be starting and
so they're kind of is. But to say like that
there is you were talking about that dopamine hit when
(07:38):
the when the light comes on. And there's sort of
it because when people text me on the text line,
I don't read them all. I try to read a
lot of them because I want people to be involved
in the conversation. But the complimentary stuff like dude, that
hits like nothing else. When somebody says I was listening
to the show last night and I couldn't stop laughing.
There is no better feeling than somebody than a joke
landing or a piece of information making somebody think a
(08:00):
little bit, or making their day with that kind of stuff.
And for me, I don't tell Da've temper this. That
is the reward of doing the jumb you know. The
reward is the paycheck. If you guys wanted to bump that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Tony and I would be down anytime, any time. But Benjamin,
that to me, that is really the highest compliment that
can be paid to a radio talent, is that.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You are sitting here in this room.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oftentimes with Nick, but oftentimes by yourself, and you're talking,
and you're connecting with a person who's probably alone in
the car by themselves, and they're laughing at something you said.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
There's no greater magic in radio than that. Yeah. And
the dynamic has changed too. The dynamic has change because
you know, you think about radio and you think about
the history of radio, it would have been people gathered
around the radio, and now the television sort of changed
that dynamic. Obviously, the dynamic has changed. What has been
the biggest change in radio through the years that you've
been doing it, well, obviously the technology. Yeah, I mean
(08:56):
it still comes down.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
To somebody sitting behind microphone sharing information or being entertaining.
But I think it's all the things around us now,
you know, sitting in front of a computer screen now.
I mean, Benjamin, I'm a little bit older than you.
That's why I'm able to retire only a year or two.
But I stud double for you in most peoples, you
(09:18):
do and do an outstanding job and deserve more money
from my ankle.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
The last one, I'm just saying, you know, could we
not do those? You know, if we could not do
the parkour stuff, Tony, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
But the record, I mean, I'm playing, playing albums using
a cart machine, all of those.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
No idea what you're referring to, right.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
The computer has changed everything, as it has in pretty
much any business in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It has. There's a lot of I would suggest not
having been through that then, but I would say now,
it feels like there are more distractions now, right because
and I've been guilty of that. But when i'm you know,
especially when I was one with Ryan and Ryan was driving.
Now that I'm driving, like I have to pay attention, huh,
But there are been times I would drift off on
my phone or in the middle of a conversation. You know,
three TVs in here, three computer screenings, my phone. There's
(10:03):
so much more distraction. And I think that that applies
on a maybe a broader sort of term as well,
Like to the listener, there's so many more distractions. So
you all, you do get thankful that people stay dialed
into you for you know, twenty to twenty five minutes
at a time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But but doing what you do being a Broncos insider
in the information, hasn't that also increased the ways that
you get this information and you get it more immediately.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Some I like, I it's interesting, and now I feel
like we're interviewing me instead of you. Good way to
turn that around, obviously, that's a pro, right there. Just
turn it right around on me. We're interviewing me instead
of him.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
A reporter fame mustache, Yeah, this is right.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I'm surrounded by Hall of Fame facial hair right now.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, you know, imagamin, people really want three things. They
want a mustache like Grants, they want muscles like Nicks,
and they want a black T shirt collection like yours.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well really all that any guy was save that? Save
that right there, putting that in the problem. You joined
the black T shirt mo for those who don't know,
because I'm all in. He's all in. So like I
wear I think most people know I wear black T
shirts all the time. That's that's kind of a thing.
It has nothing to do with Steve Jobs. It has
to do with it's super easy when you wake up
in the morning, you just grab a T shirt and go.
(11:12):
And Tony now has been wearing the black T shirts
all that they join the Black T Shirt Mafia.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Plus plus it's just and then you can just go
with the black Cantis shoes so easy.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Every matches everything. You never have to worry about anything.
But what I anyway, I think that you know, for me,
it was eye opening to because I started this, I
started doing this radio thing in twenty nineteen. It was
eye opening to me to see all the things that
go into it behind the scenes and what you guys
do for the you know, the top of the body hour,
you know, news breaks and all that kind of which
I think is vital to what we do. It's it's
(11:42):
in a world that is surrounded by micro clips on
TikTok and podcasts and everything else. Having an all encompassing
news wheel that allows us to get in there and
hit all the topics of the day during what would
normally be like a commercial break and allows the you know,
the listener to stay caught up on all of the
things without having to have fifteen things going at the time.
(12:02):
And I love that about the station. But there's so
much that goes into that how I mean, you are
constantly scanning the wire and all that kind of things.
Kind of I guess I want you to kind of
break down for the listener what it is that you're
doing here when they're not when you're not on the air,
and they're you know, and they're getting their news from you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, as you know, the news is ongoing, so never
stops throughout the day here at KOA. We have a
great staff and those people are spending their day gathering
stories as they happen. So when I get here, I
start writing news stories. I have to do a bunch
of newscasts every night, so I need a bunch of content,
(12:37):
and it continually is updated and it's always coming in.
So it's writing, writing, writing, finding audio cuts, you know,
cuts of Sean Payton talking about something or you know
that kind of stuff, and you have to edit that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That takes time, and then you'll be in the middle
of that and then.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Another story will break, so you're over here. It's definitely
not the kind of job for someone who just likes
to be in a h in a routine.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah. No, this is why we all have adhd R. No,
it absolutely is. I say jokingly, but there's you know,
the truth to it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like I said, there's a bunch of misfits in this business,
and there's a bunch of people who also are are
bored easily.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, very very very true.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know, it's like you know the squirrel, yep, pretty
much that has to be he ordered to keep up
with all of it you do. And that's and and
that's a real talent is and to be able to
go squirrel over there and still keep your uh, still
keep some sort of fuck that the listener can understand.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
One of my favorite memories a couple months ago, I
think we had the stock market in a free fall,
Israel was bombing, I ran or whatever, and I'm over
here running around like a chicken with my head cut
off because there's like six breaking stories at once, and
Tony's just like as cool as ice, just sitting there
like I got this mental work, We'll get it me up.
They don't worry about it, you know, I'm run it
out there with the next breaking thing. You were. My
young paddawan apprentice just just called down over here. What
(13:55):
what advice would you get to anybody? Any young kids
that are listening right now, looking to to make this
a besides don't well, I mean it kind of comes back.
It's almost like a trade school job. Now you don't
have to go to college to get into radio. I
didn't go to school for us.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, and many people just aren't cut out to go
to school, and I was. You know, my parents paid
for six years of college on the.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Van Wilder plan and wild loosely based on the life
of Tony manus Way and for the undergraduate degree, you know,
six years.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So my parents were just We're just happy to see
me go into radio. It's definitely again, you're judged on
your talent, you're judged on your hard work.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's pretty much it. How have I skated through a knobskin?
Well before we get into break here and the anything
nasty you want to say about Rob Dawson real quick,
He's totally not back there in the control room, you know,
if you want to listen or anything, Yeah, if you
want to gi us any dirt, well, you know, he's
a boy wonder he is. He is. He is kind
of always get back there. He's a boy wonder whiz kids.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And this radio station in the news department is in
fine hands with Rob Dawson running the show.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, Tony, it's been in five hands with you running
the show. You are going to be missed around here
by me. I cannot tell you enough how much of
about a mission, man, And thanks for sitting in with
me for a little bit. Get a chance to chat
it up, and hopefully some of these young aspiring kids
that want to get into this industry can follow your
fine example.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Be afraid you know, Zach Siegers. There's a good example
right there working young manta. Come in, get your foot
in the door, do whatever you're asked to do, and
just ride the wave to the opposite of whatever Benjamin
Olbright does.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And your gold in this business, Tony, you are gold
in my book. And I appreciate you coming on, brother,
Thank you man. You absolutely brocos Country night back with
Earthquake after this all Bright here with you, Grant Smith
back there producing five six six nine zero is the
text line. We're efforting comedian Earthquake. Who's going to be
(15:51):
I believe joining us here in a few minutes. We'll
see if we get that squared away. Comedians are notoriously
on time, punctual, very regiment. Exactly what I was gonna
say so we'll uh, well, we'll see about all that.
Earthquake one of my one of my favorites. Man. I
saw him back in the day on Comicview. I was
one of the I think the first time I saw
him in person would have been like I think it
(16:11):
was four and the Little Rock. I have to ask him,
uh and and I'll see if he remembers me, because
I would have I stood out in that audience that
night he did the death Jam comedy show. Yeah, I
used to dut Jam and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
used to see him on all that stuff. Uh. His
My favorite bit of his and I'll get into that
when he gets when he gets on is the Spades
bit about having it possible. It's one of my favorite
(16:32):
bits because I you know, I was big space player
when I was in the military, and Earthquake actually was
in the Air Force. He can probably understand that's probably
where that was born. But uh, we'll see, we'll see
how that goes. Uh efforting efforting that as we speak.
So looking forward to uh toely talking to him.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Thanks to Tony Manus for joining me in last night.
It was big for me. Man I. I I'm I'm
a huge fan of Tony Matus like Tony. You may
not know this, but I'm a big fan of mate
is Tony. I For those of you who don't know,
Tony works out. Uh just as I walk outside the
studio and to the left, he's out kind of back
there in the bullpen working. And for me, like when
(17:14):
you get into late nights here and especially when I'm
on the air by myself and Grant has heard my
jokes five thousand times, I I will go lab new
material on Tony and if Tony laughs, then I know
the material is good enough to bring it to air.
And if he doesn't, I'm like, Okay, I gotta I
got a punt on that. Like that's not somebody to
rework that punch, Yeah, I gotta. I gotta rework out
or rework the timing or rework the inflection or something.
(17:36):
But like that's that's one of those things. Like I
would go out there and I would lab material during
the breaks on Tony and see if it, you know,
see if it hit, and then come back here and
bring it to air or try to tighten up a
little bit, whatever the case may be. And I just
I I appreciate the camaraderie and the collegiality that we've
had over the last couple of years where I can
(17:57):
just kind of go out there and you know, shoot
the you know, up with him. It's one of the things,
like one of the jokes I did not bring to
air was I was gonna I was going to introduce
Tony as the lead singer of Tony Tony Tony. I
didn't know if that joke was gonna land, and then
go into my bit about how I you know, I've
always wanted to see a dual headlining concert of Tony
Tony Tony and Wet Wet Wet, just for the symmetry, so,
(18:21):
you know, and I didn't know if that joke would land,
but totally laughter both of them. So I was like,
all right, we're gonna make this. We're gonna make this work.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You know what I'll always always remember about Tony as
uh this year during the Pacers playoff run to the finals,
and you know, we talked about him working for the
Pacers back in the day and like he just the
the level of fan hood he had for them well
in Houston too, and he.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And I were at Houston and as our champion in
the brackets. So he and I were battling it out.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, and like you said, he's one of the only
other people here at night when we're doing our show.
So like he's one of the people that you're always
talking to on a daily basis. And he was always
just always a profession which, like he said, you know,
some people are here just to be here.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, so you always into the job. Well, yeah, Tony was.
Tony's always somebody you aspired to and exceled at. And
I'm gonna miss I'm gonna miss that mustache and the
black T shirt mafia stuff, right because he really did.
He like totally leaned into it after we after we
start doing that. So I I'm always gonna appreciate Tony's
contributions around here. It's it's kind of a sad day
(19:25):
for me, man, Like it's one of those like sad
part of the crew. They Yeah, that's so I'm saying, it's
part of this place gets pretty dead around here at night,
and so like it's one of those things like you
you know, you get kind of you get kind of
used to the people that are here and you get
those connections and you just yeah, it's just sad. I'm
wishing Tony well and whatever it is that he goes
on to do. And of course you know you got
(19:45):
my number, Tony get beer.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Anytime we know, whoever comes into replace something, no matter
how good they are, they're not gonna be as cool
as Tony.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Wow, you can't be like that. Dude was as cool
as the other side of the pillow man. And I'm
so glad he grew as a mustache back out. Yeah,
after he shaved it, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
It was like when Nick Ferguson shaved. I was like,
is Grant Smith next? Let's good that what's happening here?
I did think about it the other day, like the
Evening the aside for me, the Evening Show does have
its quotion to facial hair. The Evening staff right, here's
(20:14):
there's this quote, f there's pretty good beer. The beer
going on now, so we'll see. I got a text
from former co worker here, Mark Stout, and we know
we are talking during the break like maybe that was
a little too much inside baseball for for Broncos Country,
but how much we thoroughly enjoyed that. And Mark Stout,
former worker here. He said that Tony segment was really awesome.
(20:36):
Oh well, thanks Mark, Yeah, that's that's one of those
that's like like for me personally, rewarding segments that that
we get to do around here and all that kind
of stuff. Tomorrow, I think we're gonna have Coach Gruton.
I'm not a hundred on that yet, so I don't
want to guarantee that, but we're working on that. To
get coach Gruton on. We will bring the funk, we
will bring the funk. Ric Lueless to be here for
(20:56):
what the Funk Thursday and then we had I've been
in news. She had to cancel. So we'll get him
next week. I think he's gonna be here in Koe,
be here in studio and we'll get a chance to
chat up with the former Broncos down roster quarterback about
the preseason all that kind of stuff. And you know
what it's like at the annual meeting of the Benz
how we're trying to vote that affleck guy out. So
(21:17):
he's a funny guy though, So we'll get a chance
to talk to him probably next week as well. We'll
see a firthquake if we can get I'm dealing with
the text. Now, we'll see if we can get that going.
But it looks like I don't know anyway. Some other
news real quick as I'm as I'm looking here. It
may interest only me, maybe it interests some of the
(21:40):
degenerates out there. Grant sent me this one earlier. College football,
the over under totals. You know what the most bet
over total is for the season, it's the SEU Buffs,
the five and a half wins that the sports book
has put out for CU. The over is the most
bet over. But as things go in betting odds, guess
(22:05):
who the most bet under is. It's also Colorado Gambling
Problems one hundred gambler. The coach Prime effect is real.
I mean the most bet over but also the most
bet under in college football at BETMGM right now is
the is the season win total for the c Buffs?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, I mean people love him or hate him. I
bet I bet our guy Brian is on the under.
Oh guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I bet he's on the under. He's got a coach
Prime tonight, he's got a double down on it. He's
gotta put a second ticket. I would take the over
on that. Look at the schedule. I would take the
over on that, but I don't think it's much over that.
I haven't that seven wins. I think five and a
half I feel is just too late. If it were
six and a half, I wouldn't take the ticket just
because that's you know, the flexibility there. But five and
(22:50):
a half, it's It's gonna be an interesting year because
this is the year that you're gonna find out if
coach Prime can coach or if it really was all
she dore.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And Travis Hunter well, and he's also dealing with the
health issue, right I mean, he had that comment during
his presser. You know you see a porter potty on
the sideline, which.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Is right away, what an advertising opportunity. Oh guaranteed he's
gonna make some money off of that. I mean, if
your dude wipes, are you not trying to get on
the side of that porta potty somehow? I'm just saying,
like Lysol, if you're Lysol, are you not trying to
get on the side of that?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right now, I don't even know who makes hand sanitizer,
but prell poel, are you.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Not trying to get on the side of that? I
was gonna say, I don't know who makes the blue
goo at the Bunch juice, But if you want to,
if you want to be branded, is the blue juice
in the port of body. Why are you not trying
to call Colorado right now and see if you can't
get some advertising on the side of that porta potty.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Coach Prime will make you the highest selling blue juice
there is.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'm just saying, and that blue juice is universal. We
had that blue juice when I was in a rack
that's global. Yeah, when we had like his. Initially when
I was there, we had to make our own you know,
bathrooms and all that kind of stuff, and we take
the lowest rank in private and make pour some JP
eight in there and then go stir it up and
burn it. But after we got we got actual porta
potties out there, like on my second tour. And that
(24:07):
blue juice is universe. It's everywhere, It's everywhere. I'm just
saying five six, six nine zeros of textcept that that
that fascinates me, that it is both the most bet
over and the most bet under.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Right, because I saw I saw the first half of
that when when I was sending it to you, and
I was like, Okay, that makes sense. They're only five
and a half wins. Everyone thinks they're gonna win at
least six games. And then read the rest of it
and I'm like, damn, it really is just a love
hate relationship with Coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Like there are some things that are like that right now. We,
you know, and I recognize that we've become so polarized
as a society, and I think part of that, not
to tie it back to comedy or anything, is because
we don't make fun of ourselves anymore. But we're so
bitter and sort of acrimonious in the way that we
we pick sides on everything. You gotta be blue or red,
left or right, Republican or Democrat, Caitlin Clark or Angel
(24:55):
Angel Reese, you know, and we don't. We really don't
have to do that, We really don't, but we do
it anyway. And I sort of I feel like a
lot of that is because we become I don't know
if he becomes so sensitive or what, but it feels
to me like in the post nine to eleven era,
(25:15):
we really have gotten bitchy.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, And it's so ingrained in our own beliefs that
we can't see the other side of the.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, so dogmatic that we're unwilling to look through the
other lives even if we don't agree with it. Someone.
I miss the days when political discourse was quibbling over
marginal tax rates. That's what I miss.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, And you know, you know, you look at the
presidential debates from you know, the nineties and the early
two thousands, and.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Look at the Romney Barack Obama debate. Right, so much
respect and the equips were there, but it was like respectful,
and now it's it's Cherry Springer. Yeah, you know, it's gross.
I half expect him to rise from the grave and
up in there to mediate a you know, a political
debate at this point. But I had former mayor Yeah,
I mean yeah Cincinnati, yep, you know why I got
(26:08):
in trouble, right oh yeah, right in that check who
days for a hook or with a check god, a
personal check, like Jerry, what were you doing? Brow? He
found his calling, Yeah, he really did find his going.
But like I digress, I think that it really is
a shame how we've become so and a lot of
that I you know, I attributed it to post nine
(26:29):
eleven or really the attribution here should be to the Internet,
because we can get away with saying things behind a
screen that we could not say to somebody's face. We
say things consequence free from behind anonymous social media accounts
that you would not say in person. That people say
things to me like, I get it all the time
people say things to me. There is no way you'd
say that to me in person, because you know what
(26:51):
would happened, right, get punched in the face. Yeah, he
get knocked out when.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
The fear of getting punched in the face is gone
for a lot more willing to say the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Fear of consequence does just that. But the fear of
consequence saying that it really has made us a lot
more acerbic to each other. And you know it's something
that I lamit because I like and maybe I'm weird
because I like the whole like roast culture thing. You know.
I got talked to Nick and Steve about that a
lot off the air, Like during the breaks, we talk
about that because the jokes, you know, and some of
(27:22):
those are not you know, I got to clean them
up to put them on the air, but like there
there are you know, I like it when people roast me,
like I was when I was on with Dave and
Ryan a couple of weeks ago and we were talking
about a funeral or whatever, and I was like, yeah,
I are a memorial or a retirement party. And I
was like, yeah, I would hope that Nicki Glazer would
host that, right, And David was like, no, you win.
(27:43):
I'm like, yes, I would like I enjoy that whole
like roast culture thing.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Well, And I think that's why, you know, the roast
culture and comedy are so important to our culture because
it's it's it makes big issues, are heavier issues laughable.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, And that's what comedy should be. It should be
speaking truths to power, and it should be allowing us
to laugh at our own plight, and it should also
be poking fun at those who take themselves too seriously.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like even going back to like George Carlin. Yeah, that's
what made him so great, phenomenal comedian. He would talk
about very heavy, serious things but also make you laugh
about it.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And I don't know that we have a Carlin today.
It doesn't feel like we do. There have been times
where there have been people that have spoken truth to power.
You know, what made The Daily Show so great was
that John Stewart would skewer you left or right now.
John Stewart is left on the political spectrum, but The
Daily Show would skewer all of it. Absolutely make fun
of Democrats for being, you know, the idiots that they
(28:41):
were being at the time. And I certainly appreciated that.
And that doesn't feel like anybody stepped into that vacuum.
I thought Colbert, what he was doing in Colbert Rapport
was an interesting bit of satire. I didn't really care
for Colbert's you know, late night show on Cbswordy well,
but no one did apparently. I mean, honestly, it's the
highest rated one album to cancel it and it's like
the highest rated show. Those shows are dying though, because
people don't watch TV the way they used to. Now.
(29:04):
Nobody like I mean that used to be appointment television. Carson,
stuff like that used to be used to be appointment television. Uh,
and but nobody watches TV like that anymore. Because you
have your phone and you could watch whatever you want.
We have so many options, and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
If something funny happens, you'll just see the clip of
it the next day.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right, And that's so you don't have to you know,
you didn't have to be there in the moment for
it the way that you did. There used to be,
things aren't the way they used to be. Like, you
had to be there for the final episode of Mash
you had to be there for the final episode of
The Huxtables, The Cosby Show, you had to be there
for uh, for those cuts. If you had to be
there for six feet under, one of the one of
(29:42):
the greatest finales to a show ever. You had to
be there for those you know what? Anymore, you can
watch the clip the next day.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, And I mean I still have like vivid memories
from my childhood of my mom and a couple of
her girlfriends all the time and getting getting together every
weeknight when Friends was.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
On type where parties and then watching the watching the Friends, Yeah,
the last episode, because you don't know when you're gonna
get a chance to see it again. The final episode
of Seinfeld those are you didn't have, You barely had.
I don't think you had TiVo at that point. No,
I don't remember it being a thing. If it was,
it wasn't widespread at that point. If it was, if
it was around, it was a rich person thing. Well,
I mean I'm just saying it. It had not been. Uh,
(30:22):
it had not been I think five six six times.
There was a text line Brian says, did you see
Lonnie Anderson passed? Well, yeah, I did. I did it. Actually,
you know what it made me remember it? Maybe remember
that Burt Reynolds was in that. Uh you remember Evening Shade. No,
it was a show about Arkansas. Uh, it was a
comedy show Burt Reynolds did about Arkansas. And uh that's
what you know going down the rabitle, That's what it
(30:43):
reminded me of that. I'd totally forgotten that Evening Shade
was a was a show, so that, you know, that's
one of those things that that brought that up. Somebody
asked if Diann is capable of making funds. I think
he is. I think, you know, I think I think
it does come through in the media coverage that's out there.
(31:04):
But I would say if you've been around behind the
scenes on that stuff, that he absolutely will lampoon himself.
I think he's a very self aware person. Oh yeah,
I believe that he all aspects of his life, and
I think he knows what he's doing when he pokes
the bear and splits, you know, and splits opinion on him,
and he's like, yeah, I split a pin on on
(31:24):
me and then I rake both sides like Colorado is
with both the over and the undertow exactly where the
book is anyway. But yeah, that's that's sort of sort
of fascinating me. Sorry, we were to ever able to
get Earthquake. I'll follow up on that and see if
we can't get him tomorrow. I know he's gonna be
in town tomorrow to dever Improv. He's gonna be there tomorrow,
two shows Friday, two shows Saturday to dever Improv. So
if you guys want tickets, you got improv dot Com
(31:47):
and get those tickets. Said that we didn't get chance
to get him on the day, but maybe we'll get
a chance to get him on tomorrow before the show
and see if see if we can do something like that.
We come back, Zach, Seeger's gonna drop in on us,
get a chance to talk to him about the latest
and greatest, and uh, you guys will be we'll be
previewing a little bit of the the preseason game. Join
us at the Burndown by the Way Burnout Bar over
there on Broadway. That's a great spot Saturday night myself.
(32:09):
Nick Ferguson, Uh, great, you work in the game, Yep,
I'll be here to be here. Tell them didn't I,
Well I will. Uh. I'd say I bring you something back,
but I'm probably not gonna do that either. I'd stay
there if I were right, then well, I'm gonna have
to come back here anyway. But yeah, if you guys
were listen, you guys want to get a chance to come
out myself, Nick Ferguson, watch the preseason game with us.
We're gonna beat the burnout all year for the away games.
(32:30):
So if you miss this one, you can try another one.
But we would love to have you guys out and
join us out there to the phenomenal bar. It's got
like four stories to it, a rooftop deck, gotta really
got a Nashville feel to it. Had a great national
to it. Yeah, great food and drinks too, and we're
gonna have some artist tequila. It is gonna be out
there doing some drinks, special stuff. I think we got
some prizes to give away as well. So join us
(32:50):
out there. We come back Zactually, he's gonna join us
to the ste Broncos Country Night k Wa
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