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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Doing well, Benjamin, how about you? I'm doing well.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This is you know.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's our first full show post Bo Nicks lightened it
up against the Colts, I guess, and we'll get a
chance to get into some of that.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I think we're gonna have funother to stay with Tim
Jenkins on tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, okay, that'll be a lot of fun as well.
Get a chance to get into his his breakdown on
all that as well. I I retweeted four different people
who had done film breakdowns of Bo Nicks and it's
funny to see the disparity of opinion from people looking
at the same thing. Chase Daniel was so effusive in
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his praise, I thought he was describing Patrick Mahomes. Tim
Jenkins was positive and optimistic, but pointed out the negatives. J. T. O'Sullivan,
the former backup quarterback around the league, was it was
a bit more negative, but pointed out some of the positives.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
And then we had Jackson McIntyre from.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Pro Football Focus who basically thought it was a dumpster
fire and posted clips explaining, and to his credit, the
things that he explained were factual. I just I don't know.
Maybe it's because I've seen so much bad quarterback play
over the last decade. Yeah, that I know what a
dumpster fire looks like, and that, sir, was no dumpster fire.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well here's the way that I look at it. Because
you can't be too high too low. And there are
certain fans who in Bronco's country celebrated, yes, popping bottles,
fireworks going off, we founded our quarterback. I say this, yes,
enjoy that, but understand that there's still more to come
as bo Nick starts to learn this offense. And I
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would even just go out on the lemon coin in
this phrase, it's the evolution of bo Nicks.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's what this season is for the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And did he do some things well, absolutely, did he
do some things that you said, you know what, he
could do a lot better. And some of the individuals
that you talked about who were evaluating Bow are former
quarterbacks themselves, and they do have what they have in
their mind as far as their grading scale. I would
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ask each one of those guys, are you grading him
on the same scale that you would grade it on
as a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, I think, and this is something I've noticed is
that people who played the position tend to evaluate the
position through the lens of how they played the position.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And so there are tam for quarterback Chase Daniel, former quarterback,
and JT said all three former quarterbacks team got a
cup of coffee with the Rams. JT's a backup, Chase
was a backup multiple different teams. All three tend to
evaluate a little bit differently. Daniel was a little bit
more mobile, and so when he talks about bo Nick's,
you know, breaking the pocket and moving forward to him,
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that's a that's a part of his game.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's a feature, not a bug.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Then you talk to somebody like Tim Jenkins, who uh
you know makes Kurt Warner looks like Michael Vick, and sorry, Tim,
you're taking strays here right now.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But you know it's it's it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You want you want to He's gonna want somebody to
hang tough in the pocket. He's gonna want you to
hit you at the top of the seven step and
not not be working your way forward and looking to
take off and all that. So there's a different lens
that every evaluator is going to become to the table.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I get that, Ben, But once again, what scale are
we grading on here? Because we're not grading on a
veteran scale.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm grading it as a it's a first outing. I
thought it was a promising first outing. There are things
to clean up, like any I didn't think it was perfect,
but I thought it was very promising.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, man, let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I played in this game over a decade, and I
coached in this game.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
How many perfect grades were handed out of here? Very minimum?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yes, there are not too many players Hall of Fame
players at that that often grade out one hundred percent
every single game, and let's let's kind of be honest
about where the Broncos are right now, especially with both knicks.
This was his first preseason game against guys in different uniforms. Yes,
it wasn't against the coach starters. I understand that argument.
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But what you wanted to see is did you see
some of the things that you saw at practice that
you saw at Oregon? And right now we have yet
to see everything a full gamut of a skill set
that we saw at Oregon. So the idea is that
did he go out there and did he execute? Did
he lead certain drives? Did he turn the ball a
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little bit more important, this was the biggest thing that
Russell Wilson was criticized for last year.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Did he get the ball out of his hand on
tom and rhythm? And that was the main thing. You
wanted to see.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
A core confidency, No negative plays, no sacks, and drives
that end in points. Those are the basic thing you
know if you're doing a rubric, those are the basics
that you wanted to see.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
There was a play that could have been.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
A turnover, as his first throw, as a matter of fact,
could have been intercepted. I love the fact that first
drive was kind of shaky, But I love the fact
that he came back out on the second drive and
goldfished like he he just had amnesia with the first
drive and got out there. He looked cool, he looked calm,
he looked collected. And to Sean Payton's credit, I think
that was the first time we saw Sean Payton getting
his bag and start calling plays for his quarterback. Not
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to sit there and harp on the rust thing last year,
but very clearly, and I tweeted this out, bo Nicks
is Sean Payton's muse. He's calling things, He's creating things
for bow Nicks.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's also the thing really really quickly with Sean Payton.
Sean Payton was a quarterback in his own right. You
used to believe, yes he was. He didn't get the
chance to be drafted in the first round like bow
Knicks and a lot of these other quarterbacks. So he
can live vicariously through bow Knicks as though he could.
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He live vicariously through quarterbacks that he had. Carrie Collins,
you know, Drew Brees. You live vicariously through those quarterbacks
because you recognize that they have certain things that you
had at the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But also he's the biggest thing. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
They have what you don't and you want to see
it on the field. So both Nicks is going to
get the best shot.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That he cared. From a play calling standpoint from Sean.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Payton, well, the only thing that's separating bow Nicks from
me is that he tall, stronger, faster, has a stronger
or more accurate, a better football process or higher football.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Like you a squarer chin, you know, whatever you want.
We could keep going on, keep going.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm here for keep running down the list. The only
thing that separated him from me is talent, I know,
but I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Like that, it's good to see you.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And I had some complaints last year about the offense,
and whether you think that's a product of Russ's ability
to run certain things, or whether you think that Shawn
didn't like him and just just was like, this is
what we're doing and that's that. Whatever side you come
down on at the end of the day, we can
all agree that by that second drive, Sean Paygon was
in his bag calling stuff he hadn't called here in
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Denver before.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, of course, and it goes back to how settled
in the offense. Do you feel bow is And you
asked me last week before the game, well, what is
it that I want to see from bow And it's
shown as though that you understand the offense where you
can call your own place. Now, is he at that
point where he can just you can trust him with
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a two minute offense and you just say, man, you
go out there and you call based on what you
see with the defense.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, he's not at the point.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But there were enough things that I saw that make
me optimistic moving forward that the Broncos George Peyton and
Sean Payton might have found the quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm not saying they have. I said they might.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's still a little more that I need to see,
but at least you know, the kid went out there,
he played well, and then he just didn't go Oh,
I'm in the NFL and Jazz, what the bet?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's not what he did. No.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think he bailed from the pocket a little too
quickly on a couple of them, and I'd like to
see him settle down.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And that'll come in time.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Speed of the game, it'll slow down, you'll get confident
and trust your protection a little bit. That'll come in time.
Most of the other stuff I have is nitpick type stuff.
You know, there was a play he went. He made
a play where he ended up rolling to his left
and making the throw to his left. But he should
have stuck with the concept and worked the backside. The
safety was showing Robert depth and the route was running,
was coming directly in front of it. Would have been
able to would have been able to complete that pass.
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I mean there were things like I'm seeing and that
I'm picking up on that I know that he can
pick up on if I'm picking up on it. That
I was like, Okay, I got a little gripe here.
You probably should have worked this concept. You were successful
over here, so I'm not going to be too mad
about it, but you should have worked the concept as
as you know.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You should work the solution that we know works for
this play.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But see this, This is where splitting hairs comes in,
like because we can sit there and we can watch
it and say, okay, well here is where he should
have gone. Here's the perfect matchup progression was right here
right in front of him. He decided to do something else.
But to me, as long as it ends up in
the positive play, I really don't care in the fact
of bailing out on plays too early. Are you getting
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positive yards and are you put in the office and
position where second to management and third and manageable.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Let me let me go back and say this.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I do have a problem with it in the sense
that when we do film study we're going to talk
about it. I don't have a problem with it in
the sense that under live fire and in a game,
if you're making positive plays, I'm letting it go and
we'll get to it in film study.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Like, when we get it, I'm like, why, what's your
thought process here? Why do you think this okay? Because
because they's different. I got to rework my offense. If
I'm providing you a pre snap solution to what you're
seeing out there and you're jettisoning that to do something else,
but it's still being successful, I have to rewire what
I I'm doing on offense to tailor your thought process.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So from an evaluation standpoint, what you present it is
entirely different.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's not saying no no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That's not right. It is okay, no, okay. Here's where
I would have liked for you to go with the ball.
Tell me why you came off that read and you
went somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's the lost part I think between the disconnect between
media fans and inside the building. I'm glad you said
we need to put that on a shirt, right, media fans,
and because you know, we see the result. We're a
results based The media is a results based business, right,
and so we see the results. And inside the building,
it's a process based business. You're trying to get you
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to do this process. We have this, we have this
play where you know this is a middlefield. There are
left sides of middlefield open, the right sides middlefield closed.
You have two solutions to this play, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And if you're working the wrong solution, I want to
know why you work to that solution instead of the
other side, so that we can work the offense to
match your thought process.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And that's that's the marriage between coach and quarterbacks. Yes,
let me take the listeners in the quarterback crew. When
I did a coaching internship back when the Broncos win
the Super Bowl fifty and they want to against Carolina Panthers,
I said.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Which by the way you did a scouty internship this year,
so we should win another Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well things that I set up like that from a
personnel standpoint the building.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
No, No, here's the way it works. I'm sitting in
the room with Greg Nap, you know, and God bless
his soul. But Greg nat would ask those questions. Is
Zach Dicer it is? Uh? Peyton Maney in that room
and brought Oswaller and he's asking those questions. Okay, well
tell me what it is that you're seeing. Why are
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you looking to come off and go here?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
All right, see Peyton's doing this. Say you guys, don't
do what he's doing, right, You can't do that. That's
that's paid many. But he's asking the question so he
can understand and put himself in the mindset of the quarterback.
Because here's what happens. A player is drawing up. Here's
where they would like for you to go with the ball.
But you don't necessarily have to do that because guess what,
you are a football player too, and sometimes you have
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to overcome coaching and maybe the shower route clears before
the dig route.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Will you take it?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But I need you when we get in the room
after the game and we got the clicker up and okay, Jenkins,
come here when we're up there, all that you need.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
To tell me.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You got to tell me that, And that's that's a
If you're a player, you have to have the confidence
that you could speak up in the room and say
this is why I thought that. And as a coach,
you have to be receptive to your player, you know,
doing that, this is why I did this, coach without
just you know, biting a chunk of their leg off.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So you know I do believe, Yeah, I tend to
agree with you on that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, it definitely has to be that way because player, like,
we're all creatures of habit. But the one thing for
players is for me to buy into a culture or
a play call.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Tell me why I'm doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So as a coach, when the player comes to the sideline,
why did you take that throw or why did you
not take that throw?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Because now put.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yourself in the mindset of that quarterback and said Coe, Okay,
well maybe I need to change the progression to reads
here because this is how he's saying because at the
end of the day, it's not about you as a
play caller. It's not about you because you're not on
a field. For whatever reason, you're not on a field.
The idea is that how can you put that player
and the best position to succeed with confidence.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's the biggest thing with confidence.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So I'm really optimistic about what I saw from all
three to the quarterbacks, but they's still more to do.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, I tend to agree. And that's the thing. I
thought all three were. I thought all three were. I
thought all three played fairly well against the Colts. I
know that people are dogging Steinham a little bit. The
interception wasn't his fault, and I thought that there were
a few of the you know, a few of the
things they could have done. I would have liked to
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see him get one more drive there. But I thought
all three played well. I thought zacted well. I thought,
you know, Jarrett did really well for what he is.
And at the end of the day, I don't think
I have too much to criticize about any of the
three quarterbacks from that game. I mean, they're they're, like
I said, they're a little nitpick things that you know
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that I look at. I'm like, Okay, I would have
liked to see you do this, do that, whatever, But
there's nothing, nothing there that I really want a nitpick too,
too hard. Five six, six, nine zero is the text line.
We've got the seven to one fourth. As I'm getting
too optimistic with all the kool Aid I'm drinking. My
realistic expectation is to win about seven games. Better than
expected is nine games. My holy crap expectation to make
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the playoffs, and my prayers answered being winning a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wow. You know that's a heavy menu right there.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So I would go with the Broncos winning seven games
and the whole idea of drinking the kool a. Look, man,
the Broncos have been quarterback thirsty as a fan base
for several years and now feeling as though you have
your guy or the future in both Nicks. To me
settle into. He's gonna make some great plays, He's gonna
make some bad plays. But at the same time, let's
not building up so we can watch him fall. Let's
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not do that as No, the objective is to build
him up for success, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But in the end, we want to win, and we
want to win it all. That's a Hall of Fame
saying right there, that's Steve that water.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I'm just saying, though, really you show TJ. Strove did
last year. Mhmm, okay, put.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Those let's the bak. I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I'm just saying things like that. Can it's possible, CJ.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Okay, with you, with you spend five.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Minutes with k Adams and all of a sudden Stroud
and how come she's not in here with bring her back?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
No, no, no, I got I just met her a
little earlier today.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay, I know we we look and we give comps
for players different positions. So to look at what c J.
Stroud did last year, that was exciting, it was extraordinary.
But but I'm gonna say it was an anomaly because
that means in order for that to happen, which I
would love it if it did happen for the Denver Broncos. Okay,
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what that would mean is though on the defensive side
of the ball, horn the hell is Will Anderson. Because
c J. Stroud had Will Anderson on his defensive side
of the ball, John Franklin Myers, He's gonna be the
Will Anderson for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
If if you tell me that, Steve Atwater, I believe
you're right.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
They didn't have great defense account with that offense exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And then look at what they were doing offensively, tankdlle
Nico Collins. That would mean that the Broncos offensive weapons.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yes, Frank, those dudes will have to step step up.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm not saying that it is impossible, because the Texas
showed us that it is. But now are you telling
me the guys in that building that I'm pointing at
across from where we're sitting right now? Does each and
every guy in that building they have to believe, just
like those guys in Houston believe.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Why are you pointing the police day because they are
not the ones that need to believe. What makes you
think they don't believe that? Did you?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Did you think y'all are going to lose a bunch
of games when you start started the season when you played,
No man, I was part of the.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Denver Broncos lay back pipe, Pat Bowling and Mike Santa,
So hell no, I didn't think that?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right? Well, right, what makes you think they think that?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I don't see, because once again, let's take it back
for a second, Steve. See, that was the standard that
I walked into when when you guys had set the
table before that, this team and his organization fan base,
they have suffered like subpart seasons. So so now the
fan base is now starting to believe based on what
they saw from bo Nicks against the Colts. Now you
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need every guy in the buildings.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's people dream. Baby, let them dream, but.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Dreams hearing in the nightmares. Sometimes they can turn to
reality too exactly. But you gotta believe though, that's part
of you gotta believe.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
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the Broncos aren't in any bit of a pickle anymore.
It looks like bo Nix is the guy. We'll get
a chance to see him start prep as a starter
and start against the Green Bay Packers this weekend. Now
help you up against the Packers' second string defense. A
They already said they're not gonna be playing their starters,
but you'll get a chance to see them in practice
a little bit. What do we want to see out
of Bownicks from these joint practices and in the game
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on Sunday, Well, I would.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Say consistency, him following up with what he did the
last game. And he started off the last game. First
couple of plays, I think he was a little shaky,
but he set it in there pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And yeah, second drive, he was cool, calm and collected.
Yeah he was nice.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Do some nice passes, had his composure, beautiful passes too,
now that they weren't ducks.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
He throwing dimes. Well, for me is adversity.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I want to see bow Nick's throwing interception in practice.
And I know that sounds negative, and someone's riding around
screaming at me.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Why do you want to see that?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
When Steve just said he started slow and he had
a great first game, it's what happens.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
After that, how he bounce back from him.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's like being in a fight, right, And it's that
I sort of like that because his opening throw probably
should have been picked off before being honest, and I
like the way he kind of I mean, that drive
was shaky, but I like the way he gold fished
it in the second. The second drive, he was, like
I said, calm, cool, collected, Sean Payton was in his
bag calling plays. Bow is out there dealing. D doesn't
mean dungeon and dragons anymore.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
That's the way he was at Oregon, I mean said
on the film. He just didn't make a lot of mistakes.
He didn't make a lot of bad decisions. He didn't
run when he should have passed the ball, he didn't
throw into triple double coverage.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
He throws to the open man.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
But this is why I said, I would like to
see him see some adversity against the Green Bay Packers
to see how he handles that, because we know, in
my opinion, I've come to love the joint practices more
than the preseason games because coaches, you have more control
over those joint practice and they're more intense. So watching
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Bowl make a mistake in practice, watching him be able
to go over to the sideline immediately and get that coaching,
and watch him come back and see how he bounced
back from That's what I want to see.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
That's what is about. Throughout training camp, he's made mistakes.
I'm sure he's made mistakes. He hasn't been perfect, and
he's bounced back from them and made it look like.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Oh man, just to But those mistakes have been made
against guys on his team. What happens when the stakes
seemed to be I mean, I get that, I understand that,
but once again, that's college. I think you and I
are saying the same thing because I don't want anyone
to think that I'm wishing for Bow to fail. But
I know success comes when you learn from your failures.
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And that's what practice is for, for you to make
those mistakes in practice, so now you can take what
you've learned, go to the game on Sunday on eighteen,
and you're so much better.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think one of the good things about him is
he doesn't seem to say, make the same mistakes over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
He has made mistakes and breaks.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I've seen it, but I think you know he doesn't
very often make the same mistakes. That's us and that's
that's a good thing. Like that's a sign to me that, Okay,
it's a guy who likes to learn. Is the guy
who's who's in their studying the tapis the guy who's
in there learning from his mistakes and not just be like, Okay,
I gotta get it, you know, I got to sling
it in their harder next time, I'll uh. Drew Locke
was sort of that guy here. Yeah, you know, the
(23:09):
guys with the rocket ARBs tend to tend to be
like that from the sebone. For what is with Steve
coming on with that deep, silky voice sounding like he's
about to lay some lines that is going.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
To make me fall in love with him? No, I
got a little cold. I've been coughing aut dated days
to say, what was a shaggy mister love of Love?
Is mister lomb of Love? Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yes, uh, prophet says, you get the Hall of Famer
right there the studio. Give them a hard time about
his and mine optimism for the Broncos. You're projecting seventeen
and zero again this year?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
No, no, I wouldn't do that, man, nothing to okay,
gotta be realistic, No, no, no, no, I mean you know what,
I don't really have a prediction.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I just think that we're going to do really well.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
We're going to surprise a lot of people, and we're
gonna make a lot of people proud.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I think this is going to be a competitive They
might even win as many games as they won last year,
but it's gonna be every game will be competitive. You're
not going to see a Miami debacle like you did
last year. You just this team. The talent level is better, uh,
and I think they're better prepared this go round. I
just can't foresee something like that ever happening.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
No one wants to see that ever.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm sure there's someone that wants to see that happen again.
Somebody hates the Broncos. But I'm just saying that there's teeth, there's.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
A yeah, run it up. I was so mad, like honestly,
and this is the weirdest thing.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I was mad when it was what nine minutes left
in the game and they didn't go for the record,
you know what I mean? You know, I was like, Okay,
you've proven that you can and now you're too good
for it, like you already already la based to us,
go ahead and get the darn things.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
See that was Mike McDaniel's.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I know what I know in his love affair for
the Denver Broncos that he's he was just like, look,
it's already death by a thousand cups. I'm not paying cut.
I don't want to push it in. So I got
a lot of respect for for Mike mcdaze's.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I was in where double nickel we only had ten.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I mean that's the feel the widest margin.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
In the super Bowl double nickel versus two nickels. Yes, yes,
and so I know how that feels. So hey, thank
you Mike mc daniels for not making a Yeah, I
was just at the point where I was so it
was it was so comical at that point, it was
so absurd.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
So like just go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It was so far past like being upset about it
that I was like, I'm just laughing at it, you know,
like I'm laughing through the pain, as it were.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I'm just gett just go get the record.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
At this point, like like go get the record. And
his mentality he Ben would actually do that. He he
does things like that on the video game. So if
he was in a position where he could do it
in real life, yes, Ben would today. Oh yeah, I
had to tell you about that, he would do it.
I ran, I ran the play.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I was talking about the pistol full yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I played an entire game where I only ran that
play sixty one times.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Looking at it works in the video game. Look at
his face, and I won.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
He said video Well, he said it with a certain
level of convictions.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So if he said the game, it's in the games
exactly in.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
The tag line, imagine if if Ben was in the
same situation, might be Daniels.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well, yeah, but we would.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
We would have got that hundred wil chamber would will
chamber little nobody would ever be able to take it
from us. We'd have it forever. Of course, the next time,
the next time we played him, it might be some
hard feelings, right, I mean, when.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
You go over to take the coaches, I'm not shaking
his hand. I probably spit on my hand. He's giving him.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I can't see what I'm doing out there, but i'mking
throwing the hand in the back of the give them
give him the dirty his hands shut.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That tells you everything you need to know about all right,
I'm just saying tell you everything. You run it up. Yes,
we kill him better?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh where it's the sportsman ship associated with playing games.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You don't like it stopping. That's not very swift. That
was just I go back in the day. You don't
like it stopping. I'm just saying, run the At that
point you can.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You can kind of dig into your bag because you
like to run the ball when you up that big
Just run the ball, kill the clock.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I am with my third stringers. See third string is
still balling.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
What I'm saying right now, if your third team is
still balling to me, hey, you know what, what are
you gonna do about it? But being the type of
person here, run the ball, run the ball, and you're thinking, okay,
well that's gonna be his narrative from the game. And
then he runs play action FI. Yes, yes, man, You're like, man,
you dirty.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Jet, fake jet.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Pretty all goes get a scow. Did you get these
guys to you? Guys don't know the sweet taste of
the end zone, so.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I gotta get him in there. You go to the podium.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
That would be your excuse when they ask you, Coach Albright,
Obviously you were in control of the game for the
first four quarters up until the last five minutes. Why
did you decide with the two minutes remaining in the
game to go with that trick play. Why did you
decide to do that?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Put something on film so my future opponents can can
be worried about that. But you were already ahead by
like five touchdowns, So.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
What does it matter. I was gonna win. What does
it matter? What does it matter if I win by
an inch or win by a mile. I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But you already ahead. Yeah, I was already had, so
another score don't matter.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
See, once again, it proves the fact that ben It
doesn't know how to win.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
How to win? There you go gracefully. I don't know
how to win gracefully. I don't even know what that means.
I know, back in the day, you say, look, ok,
complain because they'scing my point. You just gotta get better.
Oh that that's what.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Wait a minute, that's what you tell the kids from
the other team in the other room.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Okay, you just got to get better. No, No, I'm serious.
I mean from the other side.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
It's like, the only way you stopped me is you
got you gotta get better.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, otherwise I'm running up his teach tape. Hey what
you know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I'm helping coach coach Ax over here get some teach
tape for his guys.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Oh, you're helping him. I'm helping him. I'm doing him solid.
Oh God, bless your lodge altruism, altruistic person that I am.
I'm helping him. Get some teach tape downright, grive me
run it up.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
You remember when we played the Ravens a few years
ago and when coach Fanjoe was here.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Fanjo was hot because.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
They got went to the hundred yards and he absolutely
went and got it for a purpose like it was
you know, And yes, I would absolutely do that one
hundred percent. I'm just saying, there's some unwritten walls in
the game, unwritten rules out there. There's some unwritten rules
of the road, and let's check it with David Bryan
over traffic to see where those going. Now, rough score, Nick,
(29:57):
See you know the conversations during the break.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I understand now why Ben is the way that
he is. And in order to understand being you have
to go back to his childhood right where he's had
records that he set that that were broken, coaches that
ran up the score on him, that made him feel bad.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
So now in his life, he's got to do the
same to someone else. You know, my favorite rock star
is Tom Petty. You know my favorite race car driver
is Kyle Petty. You know my favorite quarterback from Baylor
is Bryce Petty. I'm just saying like it's but there's
something to that, Like there is there is that mentality
and Steve you were talking about, like the old school mentality,
like we're bringing our a game. We're going I'm here
(30:40):
to put up one hundred. Stop me if you can
you yeah, right, Nick.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Breaks on anyone.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Really, the world has truly changed because I would say
the world, but the US has changed because they used
to be the motto. I mean, somebody put up fifty
sixty on you, they would have any mercy back.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
So now we we're a soft society, right, it's different, right, Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Stop running the ball, Stop stowing points on us, Nick,
Nick Shaban was trying to put sixty up every every week.
Saban wasn't taking it easy on anybody.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I mean that's an SEC though. That's different. That's a
different brand of football. Ben, I mean I'm an SEC hawk.
I'm just saying I mean both both. I mean Stevens too,
saying Arkansas. I'm just saying all I'm just saying. I'm
not saying go out there and give the kids a
bunch of participats in trophies.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's not what I'm saying. What it sounds like, I'm saying,
I'm what it sound like.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But no, Dick Ferguson, I'm just saying, just take all
things in consideration, because if you're up by twenty one
points and you haven't even gotten to the second quarter,
it's just like, go to your coaches, Hey, look, let's
take a little steam off somewhere, play man.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I ain't trying to let them back in many different difference.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The minute somebody says, let's take our foot off against
the twenty one nothing, I'm pointing to the Super Bowl
scoreboard at twenty eight three. Matt Ryan's sitting there just
taking his foot off the gas at twenty eight three.
That's what I'm doing. I'm pointing right to that, saying,
you want me to take my foot off the gas
because because.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
This will happen to you.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
What what what high school teams have guys like Tom Brady, Right, No,
no one has that, So things just.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Different at any level.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I'm pointing to twenty eight three and saying they can't
come back on you. It ain't over to the final whistle.
We play you you teach people to play through the
whistle all the time. You're not teaching them to let up.
What kind of culture that's trying to let up?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But if you if you're running trick plays, you got
trying to get some.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
You're going for you run.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
A trick play, you're going forward and fourth down and
you're running two point two.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Okay, fair, I'm not going for it on fourth down.
I'm not in the hurry that way. I'm looking at
your face and I still don't believe that. Well good,
because then you'll you'll defend it because wise I am
going for it. Unfortunate, because that's what you're gonna do.
That's exactly what you do. We always gonna have it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
We're gonna be the opposite side some youth football at
some point and you're gonna see me going hurry up
nor the throw footboard down to come over there and
not be in the next.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He's gonna remember how you to hit people. I'm doing
this one for free, talking about Disney on the air.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Now we face to face now, yeah, ben so you
put the arm around him, you know here, so we
wanted to run it up.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
All I'm saying, man, it is it's unco about sportsmanship, right,
That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
There's a point, there's a point where like for me,
I'm gonna keep going until it's embarrassing and then I'm
gonna stop because I'm not here to embarrass anybody. I'm
gonna make a statement. I'm gonna be emphatic about it.
I'm not letting up until the game is for sure
out of reach. But I'm not there to I'm not
there to humiliate you.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
But see, here's where I think here or here's where
I think whether the Broncos should use this.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Run.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
But here's where the Broncos should use the game against
the Dolphins to inspire the defense of the team as
a whole.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I know when you have games like that.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Usually coaches burn the film and they don't show it
before this the season. Like at the hotel, they're always
showing They're always showing highlights before the game you play
on that Sunday. If I'm coach Peyton, I'm going to
run it back and I'm going to show the team
on that Saturday night before they play Seattle on the road.
I'm going to show them either the Seattle game or
(34:45):
I'm going to show them the Dolphins game to remind it. Yes, man,
you can put them fast forwards, okay, and get to
every single play because you have to say, well, this
is what the people expected of us last year. We're
no longer that team, right, they got to burn that, Yes,
(35:06):
just to show them.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Bring up you want them. I don't even want to
see it. I mean not Super twenty three. Yes, I
do want to see it. Have you ever watched it?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Ever? Yeah? You went back and watched it one time.
I'm not talking about the tape. I' talking about you. No, no, no, no,
I can't watch take theme on. I'm turning to TV.
It turn NFL films is playing out. We're watching something.
There's curling over on here. We're watching Curling West Mister
Dog shows on. But but there's something that can be learned.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
From that, right okay, Like like for you, I understand
why you didn't. I mean, that was the Super Bowl.
That that's the epitome of what our sport calls for.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
What could I learn from that? The biggest game of
our lives? Here was that for you since your rookiere. Yeah,
biggest game of our lives. Do you think that created
a chip on your shoulder for the rest of your career? Oh?
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Man, it hurt my confidence for a minute. Though for
quite a minute, it hurt my confidence and somewhat of
a chip, especially against the forty nine. Wheneber I played
the forty nine and I was like, man, I hate
these guys.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
We'll get a chance to have Steve tell how much
he hated who specifically he hated when we come back
Broncos Country to night Kawa