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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bring on our guy Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Gabriel Parker course broke the story yesterday through the different
post about the the Broncos Stadium location. I had an
exclusive interview with Walden Penner Group as well. Parker, How
you doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. It's one of those days, right,
I Mean, it's just like I's talk about some other
people in the media car waiting to go into practice,
and you know, you look at your phone and you're
just like, man, I mean, there's not It's one of
those days where it's like there's a lot going on
and obviously like there's big news in our little football
world and all that, and then you're also like it
(00:36):
just also doesn't seem like it's that important football, but
you know it also is a thing that a lot
of people care about, and so you know, we pressed
on with it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, there is a moment where it feels almost like
there is an absurdity to what we do. And then
at the same time, as I read the text line
right now, so many people thanking us for the escape
to get away from that, and so in the moments
of self doubt, I yes, there is a there's a
moment there where like, okay, we are providing something for
for people to to be able to, you know, get
(01:07):
away from that for a few moments. So I certainly
appreciate that side.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of the platform as well.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Uh. Congratulations, first of all for dropping the scoop yesterday.
What can you tell us about how this story came
together for you and and about the timeline in terms
of the Burnam Yards stadium location.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. The like honestly,
the Denver Post, you know, we've been we've been writing
about Burnham Yard for almost a year now. Last fall
we did a big reporting series on you know, stadiums
in general in the state and looking at how things
have changed since the last generation of of you know,
(01:53):
not only in power Field, but then coors Field and
McGregor Square and these sort of like venue anchor District
small that, and so in the course of reporting that,
we sort of came upon Burnham Yard as a place
that fit really well for the Broncos. And then of
course we along with a lot of other people have
been have been reporting over the past year. So the
(02:14):
Broncos have have it's been on their Ratar screen a
lot longer than that. The first time that Greg Penner
went there with members of Governor Jerry Poles his staff
was in February of twenty twenty three. So it's been
a place that they've had, you know, identified, and then
obviously I've been doing work on for two and a
half years and then you know a little more than
(02:37):
a year ago they started purchasing land around Burnham Yard
and then obviously it culminated yesterday. They've got agreements in
place with further Yard itself for some with Denver Waters Campus.
So obviously, like the last couple of months, even you
know fits and starts as an announcement companies and not coming.
(02:58):
And then obviously you know, the chatter got pretty loud
over the last few days, and then yesterday came announcement to.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Talk with Bart Gabriel from the Denver Post. A lot
of questions from the fans coming out about this as
it comes out, it looks like it looks like a
great site. Obviously, they get great public relations about privately
financing the stadium itself. However, there will be some associated
public cost with infrastructure improvements and things like that. But
I think the main question that we get when they
(03:28):
haven't said publicly, although there's certainly been redblocks. Privately is
about personal seat licenses. Do you have any light to
shed on that?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, I mean that's going to be part of the equation.
Like I just think it's that simple. It's not like
it's not like they've said that categorically yet. But I
don't think there's been a stadium in sort of this
latest round of stadiums across sports and across the US
that hasn't included them, especially if you look at you know,
(03:59):
privately financed largely privately financed, you know, projects, they all,
I mean, it's essentially universal. So yeah, I think I
think that's something and I think, you know, on all
the survey work. One thing I do know is in
all the survey work that they've done and been, it
seem like for the first like year and a half
or so, all we really heard about was, you know,
(04:20):
we're gathering feedback from our fans about what they think
about in power field and about the experience and all
of that. They did so much work with fan base
at large, and especially with season ticket holders. I think
the fan base and season ticket holders in general are
familiar with PSLs and probably to some degree, expected that
they would be part of a new stadium. Now doesn't
(04:41):
mean you love them, doesn't mean it won't, you know,
make some people mad, But I think it's it's kind
of a reality of the stadium experience in landscape for
season ticket holders in this day and age, and it's
going to be reality for a new Broncos stadium.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
When it comes along to Yeah, and that's that seems
to be the way that the NFL particularly is trending,
although other other major sports certainly haven't quite caught up
as much with that. Talking about Park and Gabriel from
the Denver Post, there were other locations that were looked at.
Loan Tree out there in Aurora near the airports and
other stuff. Even keeping it in place, there were some
(05:22):
obvious objections to those other sites. You look out there
and Aurora near the airport. It's not just that it's
far away, but also the FAA angle where you had
to get you know, permission, with the flights overhead. It
created its own headache. You had the Loan Tree situation,
which sounded good until you took a look at and
at the influx of seventy five thousand people down there.
(05:43):
Suddenly on loan tree and the logistical support that it's
probably unable to be able to handle any end. Is
this location the win win win for the Denver Broncos
and the fans.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I think so yeah. And you know what's interesting, fans,
you had the you know, you had the fa stuff
out you know by the big airport, But but Lunxrie
had that too because of the approach that RidgeGate area,
you know, that's on the approach and departure route in
and out of Centennial and so that actually most likely
would have been so Fi esque in terms of building
(06:16):
it down into the ground at least to some degree.
So that was sort of an interesting wrinkle all along there.
One of the things you know that that Greg Penner,
obviously Bronco's owner and CEO, told me yesterday when I
was talking to him, was that they liked the historic
and this was part of their you know, marketing and
the video and all of that too. They liked the
(06:37):
the historic nature of the railroad and also that it
sort of comes with this preexisting culture and history. And
we'll see. I think in some ways the Almah Lincoln
Park neighborhood will have a say in this too. But
the idea of incorporating some of those elements and even
(06:59):
some of the building from Burnham Yard is an interesting one.
And one of the things he said to me was,
you know, you might think it's easier to just go
buy some farmland in the middle of nowhere, but in
some ways that's actually more difficult, because how do you
create something that doesn't see He didn't use the word,
you know, the Disneyland term, but he said, you're starting
from nothing. You don't you have a blank canvas, and
(07:21):
how do you build something that feels authentic if you
are building a stadium and essentially a mall out in
the countryside, Whereas here you are coming into a community
and historic sort of landmark and building from there with
you know, unique things in your own, your own style
and all that, but also some of those hallmarks and
(07:44):
and sort of cultural touchstones from already existing in that place.
So I think that's in some ways it's a challenging site,
but in some ways I think they were really sort
of like creatively inspired by the area too.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Talk with Parker Gabor from the Denver Post, pivoting from
where the field will be located to what is on
the field the diver Broncos squeak out a win in
Week one, although I think the fan base would certainly
like to see the offense look a little more in
sync and perhaps some of the late game or elite
half play calling a little bit more let's call it
(08:21):
intelligent for lack of a better word. There's been some
injuries as well. I mean, obviously Drag Greenlaw hasn't played
or practice yet, Evan Ingram limited practice. As we look
at this thing heading into week two, what do you
think about where they were in Week one as a
benchmark relative to where you had them and what can
(08:43):
we expect going into this Colts game.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I didn't necessarily think they're gonna get off like a
fast start, you know, right out of the gate offensive.
I mean it just you know, first of all, not
a lot of teams do. And second of all, it's
just you know, you and see that same kind of
rhythm necessarily in cam That doesn't always mean anything for
(09:06):
how you're going to be over the course of this season.
But it didn't really surprise me. A relatively slow start offensively,
it surprised me a little bit that it just felt
a little bit herky, jerky and it's sort of been
interesting the last few days. Sean Payton after the game
sort of pushed back against the notion that there was
any sort of like operational issue beyond the one delay
(09:28):
of game, and Bo Nick said, I don't know if
you can say it's an uneven start when we go
down the field and score on the first drive all
this stuff. And then Monday Sean was a little bit
more sort of perturbed about the offensive performance, and then
today he just literally said, you know, I don't know,
he said, I don't know how many games I have called,
but that was definitely one where I came out of
(09:49):
it and thought, man, like, I've got to be a
lot better. So they clearly know. I don't think it's
panic time, but I don't think we're that far away
from looking at it and saying, is everything all good here?
Can we expect this to be a good offense?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you attribute the offense's performance lack closter performance as
it were. Do you attribute that to a rustiness on
the offense? Do you attribute that to.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
A sophomore slump where Bo?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Do you attribute that to possibly a better Titans defense
than we gave them credit for.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, maybe a little bit of all the above. I
think it's a little too early on Vowe Nicks say
one way or the other. And I think I would
be sitting here saying the same thing if he had
two hundred and eighty yards and three touchdowns. I mean,
obviously the nature of the conversation would be a little
bit different. But it's one game, and I think you're right.
And the Tennessee's defenses is pretty sporty. The front three
(10:44):
is good. Jeffrey Simmons was a handful and then some
on the interior. But Joseph Day's a good player. Obviously,
he's got the big young guy sweat, and then la
Jerious Need and a money hooker in the back end
are pretty good starting points. So yeah, I mean, I
think it was a good challenge, and I think it's
probably a little bit of russ I don't think. And
(11:04):
we've talked about this each year with with Sean Payton's
team so far in Denver, I'm not there. Seem like
maybe they're a little bit stuck in between in terms
of an identity in the run game, and and Sean's
always been sort of a pretty varied run game. He's
not all inside zone he's not all outside zone, he's
not all power, he's not even really a lot of
(11:26):
any of it. And so I think they're just they're
dabbling in the outside zone, but they're not obviously like
a Shanahan, you know, Tree team in that regard. And
so they ended up with one hundred and fifty rushing yards.
But he didn't really feel like, except for that one drive,
that they could run the ball anytime they wanted to.
So that's part of the sort of race to improve it,
(11:49):
he always talks about over the next couple weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, last one for me, let's let's stick with that
running game, of which I believe half that yardage came
on two plays, if I'm not mistaken. You know, as
we look forward, can we do you think that we
will be seeing a different split with regards to the
running backs. I mean, obviously they brought Duce Vaughn in
for the practice squad. We didn't see any Julia McLoughlin,
and his time could be ticking based on that signing
(12:12):
in the lack of usage there.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
RJ. Harvey looked pretty decent in limited reps. JK.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Dobbins looked pretty decent and limited reps Tyler bday looked
like he didn't belong on the field in that particular game,
but hopefully he can shake that off. What do we
see a perhaps a different shakeup or a split between
how these running backs are utilis going forward?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, that's a good question. You know. It's interesting about that.
I think, and I don't know this, but if I
were guessing if there was any sort of change in split,
I would think that maybe the gap between Dobbins at
sixteen carries and RJ. Harvey at whatever he was at
six or seven would come down a little bit. Now,
some of that's because you know you're leading the game
(12:53):
in the fourth quarter. Dobbins is a veteran, You trust
him with the ball in his hands, all that sort
of stuff, So sometimes the numbers get skewed like that.
But I just thought, you know, his usage in R J.
Harvey's usage, I would think they'd be more even a
little bit like just maybe over the course of the
next several weeks we'll see about this son in particular,
I don't think I've got I've had a lot of
(13:15):
people ask me about today and I don't I'm not
sure if it's one game and out for him. I
just would be a little bit surprised because of the
things that won him that third job, pass protection and
the ability to play on third down. Didn't look good
in the passing game, he dropped the one. There are
a few targets in there of the six that he
had that just really didn't have much of a chance anyways,
(13:35):
And so I would chalk that up to a week
one thing. We'll see about that going forward. But the
things that won him that job over Jealil McLoughlin haven't changed.
That's that's pass pro and and and the receiving abilities.
So like, I just think I wouldn't be surprised if
it's the same three guys this weekend. Then if the
distribution is a little bit different, you know, we'll.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
See about that, all right, Parker, we appreciate it is
always congratulations on the uh the bronnam Yard scoop and
look forward to talking to you again here soon.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
All right, Thanks for having a good night.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Absolutely take care of Parker. Gabra from the Denver Post
Bring on our guy Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Gabriel Parker course broke the story yesterday through the different
post about the the Broncos Stadium location. I had an
exclusive interview with Walden Penner Group as well. Parker, How
you doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. It's one of those days, right,
I Mean, it's just like I's talk about some other
people in the media car waiting to go into practice,
and you know, you look at your phone and you're
just like, man, I mean, there's not It's one of
those days where it's like there's a lot going on
and obviously like there's big news in our little football
world and all that, and then you're also like it
(00:36):
just also doesn't seem like it's that important football, but
you know it also is a thing that a lot
of people care about, and so you know, we pressed
on with it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, there is a moment where it feels almost like
there is an absurdity to what we do. And then
at the same time, as I read the text line
right now, so many people thanking us for the escape
to get away from that, and so in the moments
of self doubt, I yes, there is a there's a
moment there where like, okay, we are providing something for
for people to to be able to, you know, get
(01:07):
away from that for a few moments. So I certainly
appreciate that side.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of the platform as well.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Uh. Congratulations, first of all for dropping the scoop yesterday.
What can you tell us about how this story came
together for you and and about the timeline in terms
of the Burnam Yards stadium location.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. The like honestly,
the Denver Post, you know, we've been we've been writing
about Burnham Yard for almost a year now. Last fall
we did a big reporting series on you know, stadiums
in general in the state and looking at how things
have changed since the last generation of of you know,
(01:53):
not only in power Field, but then coors Field and
McGregor Square and these sort of like venue anchor District
small that, and so in the course of reporting that,
we sort of came upon Burnham Yard as a place
that fit really well for the Broncos. And then of
course we along with a lot of other people have
been have been reporting over the past year. So the
(02:14):
Broncos have have it's been on their Ratar screen a
lot longer than that. The first time that Greg Penner
went there with members of Governor Jerry Poles his staff
was in February of twenty twenty three. So it's been
a place that they've had, you know, identified, and then
obviously I've been doing work on for two and a
half years and then you know a little more than
(02:37):
a year ago they started purchasing land around Burnham Yard
and then obviously it culminated yesterday. They've got agreements in
place with further Yard itself for some with Denver Waters Campus.
So obviously, like the last couple of months, even you
know fits and starts as an announcement companies and not coming.
(02:58):
And then obviously you know, the chatter got pretty loud
over the last few days, and then yesterday came announcement to.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Talk with Bart Gabriel from the Denver Post. A lot
of questions from the fans coming out about this as
it comes out, it looks like it looks like a
great site. Obviously, they get great public relations about privately
financing the stadium itself. However, there will be some associated
public cost with infrastructure improvements and things like that. But
I think the main question that we get when they
(03:28):
haven't said publicly, although there's certainly been redblocks. Privately is
about personal seat licenses. Do you have any light to
shed on that?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, I mean that's going to be part of the equation.
Like I just think it's that simple. It's not like
it's not like they've said that categorically yet. But I
don't think there's been a stadium in sort of this
latest round of stadiums across sports and across the US
that hasn't included them, especially if you look at you know,
(03:59):
privately financed largely privately financed, you know, projects, they all,
I mean, it's essentially universal. So yeah, I think I
think that's something and I think, you know, on all
the survey work. One thing I do know is in
all the survey work that they've done and been, it
seem like for the first like year and a half
or so, all we really heard about was, you know,
(04:20):
we're gathering feedback from our fans about what they think
about in power field and about the experience and all
of that. They did so much work with fan base
at large, and especially with season ticket holders. I think
the fan base and season ticket holders in general are
familiar with PSLs and probably to some degree, expected that
they would be part of a new stadium. Now doesn't
(04:41):
mean you love them, doesn't mean it won't, you know,
make some people mad, But I think it's it's kind
of a reality of the stadium experience in landscape for
season ticket holders in this day and age, and it's
going to be reality for a new Broncos stadium.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
When it comes along to Yeah, and that's that seems
to be the way that the NFL particularly is trending,
although other other major sports certainly haven't quite caught up
as much with that. Talking about Park and Gabriel from
the Denver Post, there were other locations that were looked at.
Loan Tree out there in Aurora near the airports and
other stuff. Even keeping it in place, there were some
(05:22):
obvious objections to those other sites. You look out there
and Aurora near the airport. It's not just that it's
far away, but also the FAA angle where you had
to get you know, permission, with the flights overhead. It
created its own headache. You had the Loan Tree situation,
which sounded good until you took a look at and
at the influx of seventy five thousand people down there.
(05:43):
Suddenly on loan tree and the logistical support that it's
probably unable to be able to handle any end. Is
this location the win win win for the Denver Broncos
and the fans.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I think so yeah. And you know what's interesting, fans,
you had the you know, you had the fa stuff
out you know by the big airport, But but Lunxrie
had that too because of the approach that RidgeGate area,
you know, that's on the approach and departure route in
and out of Centennial and so that actually most likely
would have been so Fi esque in terms of building
(06:16):
it down into the ground at least to some degree.
So that was sort of an interesting wrinkle all along there.
One of the things you know that that Greg Penner,
obviously Bronco's owner and CEO, told me yesterday when I
was talking to him, was that they liked the historic
and this was part of their you know, marketing and
the video and all of that too. They liked the
(06:37):
the historic nature of the railroad and also that it
sort of comes with this preexisting culture and history. And
we'll see. I think in some ways the Almah Lincoln
Park neighborhood will have a say in this too. But
the idea of incorporating some of those elements and even
(06:59):
some of the building from Burnham Yard is an interesting one.
And one of the things he said to me was,
you know, you might think it's easier to just go
buy some farmland in the middle of nowhere, but in
some ways that's actually more difficult, because how do you
create something that doesn't see He didn't use the word,
you know, the Disneyland term, but he said, you're starting
from nothing. You don't you have a blank canvas, and
(07:21):
how do you build something that feels authentic if you
are building a stadium and essentially a mall out in
the countryside, Whereas here you are coming into a community
and historic sort of landmark and building from there with
you know, unique things in your own, your own style
and all that, but also some of those hallmarks and
(07:44):
and sort of cultural touchstones from already existing in that place.
So I think that's in some ways it's a challenging site,
but in some ways I think they were really sort
of like creatively inspired by the area too.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Talk with Parker Gabor from the Denver Post, pivoting from
where the field will be located to what is on
the field the diver Broncos squeak out a win in
Week one, although I think the fan base would certainly
like to see the offense look a little more in
sync and perhaps some of the late game or elite
half play calling a little bit more let's call it
(08:21):
intelligent for lack of a better word. There's been some
injuries as well. I mean, obviously Drag Greenlaw hasn't played
or practice yet, Evan Ingram limited practice. As we look
at this thing heading into week two, what do you
think about where they were in Week one as a
benchmark relative to where you had them and what can
(08:43):
we expect going into this Colts game.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I didn't necessarily think they're gonna get off like a
fast start, you know, right out of the gate offensive.
I mean it just you know, first of all, not
a lot of teams do. And second of all, it's
just you know, you and see that same kind of
rhythm necessarily in cam That doesn't always mean anything for
(09:06):
how you're going to be over the course of this season.
But it didn't really surprise me. A relatively slow start offensively,
it surprised me a little bit that it just felt
a little bit herky, jerky and it's sort of been
interesting the last few days. Sean Payton after the game
sort of pushed back against the notion that there was
any sort of like operational issue beyond the one delay
(09:28):
of game, and Bo Nick said, I don't know if
you can say it's an uneven start when we go
down the field and score on the first drive all
this stuff. And then Monday Sean was a little bit
more sort of perturbed about the offensive performance, and then
today he just literally said, you know, I don't know,
he said, I don't know how many games I have called,
but that was definitely one where I came out of
(09:49):
it and thought, man, like, I've got to be a
lot better. So they clearly know. I don't think it's
panic time, but I don't think we're that far away
from looking at it and saying, is everything all good here?
Can we expect this to be a good offense?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you attribute the offense's performance lack closter performance as
it were. Do you attribute that to a rustiness on
the offense? Do you attribute that to.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
A sophomore slump where Bo?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Do you attribute that to possibly a better Titans defense
than we gave them credit for.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, maybe a little bit of all the above. I
think it's a little too early on Vowe Nicks say
one way or the other. And I think I would
be sitting here saying the same thing if he had
two hundred and eighty yards and three touchdowns. I mean,
obviously the nature of the conversation would be a little
bit different. But it's one game, and I think you're right.
And the Tennessee's defenses is pretty sporty. The front three
(10:44):
is good. Jeffrey Simmons was a handful and then some
on the interior. But Joseph Day's a good player. Obviously,
he's got the big young guy sweat, and then la
Jerious Need and a money hooker in the back end
are pretty good starting points. So yeah, I mean, I
think it was a good challenge, and I think it's
probably a little bit of russ I don't think. And
(11:04):
we've talked about this each year with with Sean Payton's
team so far in Denver, I'm not there. Seem like
maybe they're a little bit stuck in between in terms
of an identity in the run game, and and Sean's
always been sort of a pretty varied run game. He's
not all inside zone he's not all outside zone, he's
not all power, he's not even really a lot of
(11:26):
any of it. And so I think they're just they're
dabbling in the outside zone, but they're not obviously like
a Shanahan, you know, Tree team in that regard. And
so they ended up with one hundred and fifty rushing yards.
But he didn't really feel like, except for that one drive,
that they could run the ball anytime they wanted to.
So that's part of the sort of race to improve it,
(11:49):
he always talks about over the next couple weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, last one for me, let's let's stick with that
running game, of which I believe half that yardage came
on two plays, if I'm not mistaken. You know, as
we look forward, can we do you think that we
will be seeing a different split with regards to the
running backs. I mean, obviously they brought Duce Vaughn in
for the practice squad. We didn't see any Julia McLoughlin,
and his time could be ticking based on that signing
(12:12):
in the lack of usage there.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
RJ. Harvey looked pretty decent in limited reps. JK.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Dobbins looked pretty decent and limited reps Tyler bday looked
like he didn't belong on the field in that particular game,
but hopefully he can shake that off. What do we
see a perhaps a different shakeup or a split between
how these running backs are utilis going forward?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, that's a good question. You know. It's interesting about that.
I think, and I don't know this, but if I
were guessing if there was any sort of change in split,
I would think that maybe the gap between Dobbins at
sixteen carries and RJ. Harvey at whatever he was at
six or seven would come down a little bit. Now,
some of that's because you know you're leading the game
(12:53):
in the fourth quarter. Dobbins is a veteran, You trust
him with the ball in his hands, all that sort
of stuff, So sometimes the numbers get skewed like that.
But I just thought, you know, his usage in R J.
Harvey's usage, I would think they'd be more even a
little bit like just maybe over the course of the
next several weeks we'll see about this son in particular,
I don't think I've got I've had a lot of
(13:15):
people ask me about today and I don't I'm not
sure if it's one game and out for him. I
just would be a little bit surprised because of the
things that won him that third job, pass protection and
the ability to play on third down. Didn't look good
in the passing game, he dropped the one. There are
a few targets in there of the six that he
had that just really didn't have much of a chance anyways,
(13:35):
And so I would chalk that up to a week
one thing. We'll see about that going forward. But the
things that won him that job over Jealil McLoughlin haven't changed.
That's that's pass pro and and and the receiving abilities.
So like, I just think I wouldn't be surprised if
it's the same three guys this weekend. Then if the
distribution is a little bit different, you know, we'll.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
See about that, all right, Parker, we appreciate it is
always congratulations on the uh the bronnam Yard scoop and
look forward to talking to you again here soon.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
All right, Thanks for having a good night.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Absolutely take care of Parker. Gabra from the Denver Post
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