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September 30, 2024 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are gonna go right out to the KWA Common
Spilled hotline and bring on our guy, Tim Jenkins, t
Jenkins Elite on the on the social somewhere in the
Jenkins Leite hat right now. It's a little dirty. I
getting made fun of for it. But Tim, how you
doing this weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. How are you guys
doing doing? Uh?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Doing pretty well. We'll get to it here in a
minute with h with the bow knicks breakdown and all
that kind of stuff. Are you a pickleball player at all?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know, I've gotten into it a little bit, all right.
Me and uh, me and the wife went to uh
somebody's fortieth birthday party and it was a co ed
pickle tournament. I'm not gonna act like me and Emily
live in the same world with competitiveness, so I don't
think it helps in a co ed setting. But no,
it was fun. It was fun. I enjoyed it. I

(00:51):
just you know, I'm a little worried about adding another
hobby that I'm just gonna be mediocre ass, so I'm
trying to avoid that, like golf. But uh, but it
seemed it seemed addictive when I started to play it.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, we're here at the Sporty Pickle Bar. Girl. They
have literal pickleball courts in this bar. Now they're they're
walled offense was a glass on the other side, so
you don't have to hear it all the time. But
there's pickleball in this bar. And every time I'm like,
you know what I need to do. I need to
invite Jenkins out because we both have the same level
of hyper competitiveness. And we'll get out here and play
some pickleball and and talk some trash.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think it'd be great. I'd probably lose some clients
up there, or some people that'd be like, I'm never
trying to take a leap, but I think it'd be great.
Plus a couple of cold models after we'd be living
the dreamy.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Look, I'm putting it out there. If you don't like it,
send it right back. You know how things work around here.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
We saw a game up there in uh New York,
New Jersey as it were, that maybe said football back
one hundred years. I don't know. In terms of offense,
the elements there not conducive to a great passing game.
But the Broncos is getting done with the power run
game on the ground, Bone Nicks the winner or excuse me,
the second lowest passing total yardage in a win in

(02:07):
modern football history. It was again not exactly an explosive
game for the Broncos, but there were things to like.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I think it was. I mean, honestly, it was
a It was kind of a brutal watch on the film,
and it wasn't like particularly a bad thing for Nicks.
It was just we've all been in those situations where
it's hard to grip a football and you're not moving
it well. The reality for Broncos fans is like, and

(02:38):
I get people are like, oh, I don't want to
hear about it because you know their NFL quarterbacks. You
gotta YadA YadA. But like, if Aaron Rodgers is struggling
to throw the football on the other side, right, like
you have an issue. Right. No one's ever been like,
you know who can't throw it very well as Aaron Rodgers, Right,
Aaron has always been one of the better just pure
throwers in the game. So you saw in the first

(02:59):
half those offensive kind of were just stagnant. I think
the thing that to like was the Broncos I mean,
we're finally coming on here and talking about them find
they're finding a way to win. I think that's the
biggest takeaway is for the first time in what I
feel like the history of me and you talking about

(03:19):
this is like they found a way to win a
sloppy game. It feels like these were the ones we
always found a way to lose, or we were actually
playing decent and still found a way to lose. So
to me, it's like, I think, if anything, you take
a little bit assault from the fact that, hey, the
Broncos found a way to win, and this offense found
a way to come alive when they needed at most.

(03:40):
I think, you know, the twenty yard dig the sun
was pretty darn good, and then all of a sudden,
if they connect on one of those four third and
medium shot plays they took, we probably feel a little
bit different about the game. Those just you know, they
kind of went over for them, those on those one
on one takeoffs to Cortland and the rain and then
all of a sudd of the kind of out but

(04:01):
you have. But to me, it's like they kind of
a way to win, And I think that's probably the
most important takeaway from this game, because I don't think
you're going to find out anything from a scheme or
like a true evaluation of bonicks in those conditions.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, Tim, Usually I hear from a lot of individuals
who evaluate quarterbacks they want the quarterback to be a
pocket passer because it's just believe as though that's the
defining moments of a quarterback. But what I continue to
see show up we can week out for bow Nix
and I go back to the courling sudden touchdown that

(04:38):
was not thrown from the pocket, that was thrown with
Bow on the move. So explain to the listening audience,
how does things change for a quarterback playing from the
pocket opposed to playing on the move.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I mean I think you kind of look at
it twofold, right, or like, hey, are they scrambling because
they are comfortable scrambling? Right? Like are they veiling on
clean pockets? Or is it a true pocket evacuation? Right? Like? Hey,
do we have a reason to move? I think you know,
sometimes we kind of hamper some guys in by saying, oh, no,

(05:17):
he likes to move, but in reality, you know, the
pocket breaksdown, so then he's movement moving or you know, hey,
the play is completely broke down, and now we're going
to start to scramble to see if you know, scrambled
drill can give this play kind of second life. So
to me, I think when you saw Bow moving around,
I think a lot of it's him. Either the pocket's
breaking down and heck I got to get out of there,

(05:38):
or he's trying to give the play second life. You know.
I think the Courtland Sutton touchdown anytime you can see
you see Courtland doing that is pretty darn good. That's
the one that I wonder, you know, I don't know
if you guys really, I don't know if you guys
got a chance to walk to all twenty two on
that one. That one's funny to me because it's like,
you know, everyone right now runs that mesh concept right

(06:00):
where one receiver on each side runs a shallow and
then they have a guy on the deep pank behind
it and really read a shallow to dpank a shallow
on the other side Courtland. It looks like that's the
play they call. It looks like Courtland the season opening
and takes it. I wonder, you know, if that's what's
what happened there, or if what happened was, Hey, you

(06:21):
know that's what the way they designed it. I'd be
interested to see what actually happened with that with that touchdown.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, it was, uh, from what I understand, it was,
you know, his basic dagger play. And you know, I
think we all saw the we also throws a little
bit high, one of the things that I've been talking about.
Both had a habit of throwing the ball a little
bit high. And you know, we talked about nerves, we
talked about impressing a little bit whatever that is. But
what do we what can we do to get bow

(06:49):
Nicks to quit throwing the ball so high?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Mine, I think it's shoulder level. I think if you
kind of see him sometimes on those double hitches where
he throws the the big dig a courtlingk you can
kind of see his shoulder level. Just that front shoulder
kind of just gets pinted up a little bit too much.
And to me, it's like, we don't mind that front
shoulder getting high if we're throwing those true level three

(07:14):
like dropping the bucket go balls. When you're trying to
throw those intermediate routes right like those you know sixteen
or like twenty four, you really want to still stay
level because it's like, hey, we've at times we got
to get over the linebacker, but really we still want
to get that thing dug down in front of the safety.
So to me, I think it's shoulder level I think
would really help that. And obviously keeping his back foot

(07:35):
engage versus kicking that backfoot up is going to help
maintain that shoulder level. To me, if you can kind
of level out his shoulders and then also keep that
back foot engauge, that's usually the way that we've been
able to cure it. I don't think it's a I
don't think it's a unfixable issue, right. I think sometimes
we do see quarterbacks where it's just like, hey, they're

(07:56):
triggers off, right, like their aim is off and no
matter what you do. I don't see that with Bow.
I see it as like, Okay, there's an actual mechanical
issue that's addressable, which to me is always exciting. I
don't listeners don't always like hearing that because they feel like, Okay, hey,
that's a you know, a process it and it is.
With that being said, though, you'd rather you know, to me,
i'd always have something where it's like Hey, I feel

(08:18):
like we can fix this versus you know, I have
no idea why he's inaccurate. I think that's, you know,
a bigger issue if that's what you're seeing.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
So, now that we've talked about bows technical issues, let's
look at things from a schematic standpoint. What have you
seen or let me rephrase that, what would you like
to see moving forward? With everything you said about Bo's
technical issues at times? What can coach Peyton too, in

(08:47):
your mind, to kind of get Bo a little more
settled and acclimated to what he's saying. Defensively?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I want to see the continued. They've been pretty
darn aggressive, right, I think since Tampa they've been aggressive
in their play calling. I just want to see that continue.
I think driving the ball down the field, I think
some of those deep over shots that they're taking now
are really exciting. But to me, it's like keeping them
on this path. What's funny is, you know, you go

(09:17):
the first three weeks to the season, right, or the
or the first to whatever, the first two games, and
you go, man, this is pretty brutal, right, Like we're
not being aggressive with the football. It's like we're kind
of just you know, like like everything is like very
like a neutered version of an offense, right, Like it's
just like, hey, everything's underneath. Everything's like we're playing scared

(09:40):
and then obviously and then in Tampa we come out
and it's like three straight shot plays, and then even
against New York in the rain, it's like we're throwing vertical.
So to me, it's like it's almost the third and
medium calls. I'd like to see grow of, you know,
a true mesh where we're giving our guys a shot
to hey, let's somebody off and that with the rub

(10:01):
route on the on the man coverage or hey, you know,
a true option route, true stick concept. Those I kind
of want to see us get back to on those
third mediums because third medium is New York. Man, we
were throwing shots still, So to me, I liked it.
We're getting aggressive and I understand a little bit of
the game plan thought process, which is, hey, on third
Downstall is gonna heat us up. They're gonna play man,

(10:23):
let's see if we can hit one, right. I get
the thought process. I just do think it'd be nice
to see, you know, maybe hey, a shot designed to
one side of the play and the other side of
the play is, hey, you know, if we do hold
up in protection, we got a little option route runner underneath,
and we're gonna kind of, you know, bump his guy
with a dig route and some of those. So to me,

(10:44):
that's where I'd like to see him grow. Honestly though,
I've been pretty pleased these last two weeks with just
how aggressive Sean's been, and I think that's more where
Sean wants to live. And I do think like I'd
be willing to bet if someone actually gave him like
truth serum and asked him, he'd be pretty disappointed with
how he called the first two weeks compared to the

(11:07):
last two weeks.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
In terms of aggressiveness, Well, we certainly agree with that.
Listening to Broncos Country Night, Tim Jenkins joining us here,
certainly agree with that. Love the fact that he was
aggressive early in the Tampa game. I didn't like, you know,
because there was some aggression later in the game and
the in the first two games, but it was when
you needed it, you know. I like being aggressive when
you don't need it, you know, keeping yourself unpredictable, keeping

(11:29):
a defense off balance. So we saw that early when
when in that first drive against Tampa when Bonix was
just going up up the field they were and we're
talking about the shot play.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
They ran it.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I think twice a drive. I you know, I think
that they need to harness that and be aggressive earlier.
But what I haven't really seen.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Any deep shots.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
We talked about the shot play, I'm talking about just
deep balls. Uh, you know, why aren't we getting Marvin
Mims on the field for the depot? We had Troy
Franklin out there. It's not you know, it hasn't been
working with him. We don't have a whole lot on
the speed. Where an't we getting Marvin Mims, you know,
running deep? Just just getting that bang nine and put
the ball out there for him to go get.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Well.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean, that's an interesting they meant you to bring
up because I do think the way they've got to
the deep shot really has been strictly one way, right,
which is hey three by one and isolate Portland backside, right.
Like that's really you know, when you talk about throwing
driving the ball down the field, that's kind of the
only way they've done it. I do think it's interesting

(12:32):
that we haven't seen some of those New Orleans staples
that we even saw last year with Russ, where we
haven't seen some of those New Orleans staples that that
Sean had with you know, he was kind of the
guy who invented Samurai, right, Like I feel like I
talked about all the time on the YouTube channel with
the deep posts that deep over he kind of invented
that thing in New Orleans, Like I know he really didn't,

(12:52):
but he, you know, is the one that ran it
so much that kind of took over the NFL. So
to me, it's like those are surprising. I think we
tried to see it that one play where Bo's move
into his last and he ends up checking it down.
You know, if they can hold on to protection there,
I think they're trying to create something. Personnel usage is

(13:13):
a whole different discussion, and I think who we decided
to keep at certain positions. I think, you know, Tim
Patrick wud have done something in the Lions game, because
I saw Twitter blown up about Timmy p. But I
do think receiver is a position in which I just
don't know if ross or makeup is you know, I
don't know. If we nailed it, that would be my
one thing, you know, And obviously everybody has credit, you know,

(13:35):
criticism for every position and every every team, but I
do think, you know, explosive place in the wide receiver
group we've been lacking and usach of those guys have
been lacking. Part of me is like I do wonder,
right because and I'm sure you guys go through this too,
where you sit there and you go, man, I mean
outside looking in, and I can't, for the life of
me figure out why this kid isn't on the field

(13:57):
right the mems are doing some of these takeoffs. Part
of me wonders like what is actually going because I
sit there and I'm like, man, are we just like that?
Are we just not comprehending the playbook at like to
that degree where it's we're not confident in putting them
on there? Because to me it's like, you know, shoot,
I coached second grade five football for MAC and I
sit there and I laugh because it's like, you know,

(14:18):
we got some kids, obviously they're second graders, right, we
can really figure out how to tire shoes. I'm sure
I don't know all twenty eight plays that I hammer
into Max Jenkins every night, but guess what the dude knows?
The two that he's got to go defund right to me,
I'm like, man, if we can figure it out at
that level, I know Sean can, and you sit there
and you kind of those are the things that I
do wonder is what's going on in the building with

(14:39):
situations like that, because you would like to see them
utilize some of those personnel and listen, both can throw
the heck out of it right Like we've seen him
drive this thing down the field, So I do think
that would be one way in which you're kind of
dead on. It's been disappointing, and we've really been simple
and just being three by one in the way in
which we're going to generate a shot. Play is really

(14:59):
just fact that I play with Portland Tim.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
We we appreciate it as always, always love getting a
chat with you.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's it's been too long. We got to get out there.
I got to get tuned up for the Turkey bawll.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I might need to have to rework my mechanics.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
We gotta get you dialed in. I appreciate you guys.
You gotta have a great night.
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