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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Touch line, said someone nine.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
When Philly runs that rpo, hit the quarterback and hit
him hard, whether he has the ball or not.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
See how often they stick to it after that.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, that's always a given strategy to make sure that
you wear down the opposing quarterback. Because here's what we
do know. Hits on the quarterback are quative.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
They add up.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Now I will say this too as well. We're still
talking about a team, and the Philadelphia Eagles, who are
the reigning Super Bowl champs. They are still undefeated and
they're playing at home. So if you want to say
that there could be a little home cooking, you're doing right.
And those officials are going to protect those quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
The Buffs played by you close but could not get
the victory. Bachmeyer through two touchdown passes and b why
you rallied to beat the Buffs twenty four to twenty one.
But there was some problems with the fans during and

(01:02):
perhaps after the games, as fans were lobbing down different
slurs or something to that extent. I haven't seen the
whole thing where fans were doing this. I've just seen
sort of reports of it. But Deon Sanders came out
today and basically apologized for Buffs fans behavior.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
We would like to apologize to our opponents from a
week ago for whatever derogatory statements were made by our fans.
That's not indicative of who we are, our student body.
Our kids are phenomenal, So don't indict us just based
on a group of young kids that probably was intoxicated

(01:37):
and high simultaneously too high.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, I put honey on the blunt.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I forgot he still had that.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I forgot we had that there. Grant Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Reminder, the Buffs one in seven over the last two
seasons when they don't get to thirty points on offense,
felt like for a lot of people, they choked that
game away, a game they could have perhaps should have won.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
How are we.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Feeling about c right now at two and three after
a loss they probably should have had it now thirteen
and a half point underdogs to TCU.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Okay, bro let me first.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Let me address the elephant in the room, the comments
that were made against BYU. You never do that, see
you or find fifty thousand dollars for that, which I
think that is wrong for the school to be penalized
for something that students are chanting now we all know
we live in the country where we have the right

(02:32):
to have free expression and freedom of speech. What we
do know those things are not without consequence. So I
don't know if you can do like the league. The league,
the NFL does a great job that they're captured individuals
in the stands and they'll go after those particular individuals.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I don't know if c.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
You can do that, But I think it's kind of
wrong to penalize the school for a couple of or
several rowdy fans.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
And for me, it's wrong for.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Anyone to scream out derogatory comments about anyone. But we know,
or at least I know, we live in the world
where everyone wants to fit into the mob. So if
someone is saying it, someone else will say it as well.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
And I get it. When you're on the college campus, you're.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
In the game, you're trying to support your team, but
this is not the way to do it. Now, getting
to the football aspect of it, you know what been
To be totally honest, this is kind of where I.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Thought the CU buffs.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Would actually be because you're talking about your impact players
were both you know, Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders both
of those guys have gone on to the league, and
you couldn't run the ball last year to save your life.
Now you're getting a little defibulator where you have some
life in your ring game. But that was the game
last week against the BYU that they could have won.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
And I know one glaring play.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
You know, you saw the image of coach Sanders saying
that kind of mouthing like almost like game Sultton can
actually hear, you know, throw the ball that there was
an open guy. But there's always guys who are running free.
You just hope that your quarterback finds the right guy.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
So to me, they're right whether they need to be.
And now here comes a challenge. Here comes a challenge.
There's no Chador, there's no Travis Hunter to bail you out.
Now this now, this is where the rubber meets row.
Can you go out against CCU and win a game
that you are an underdog? Yeah, and that's gonna be
the thing. I mean, you go back to that game.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You're right, you had Omario Miller call for holding on
a big run from Salter. The next play, Salter hit
that twenty two yard sack loss with Miller wide open.
Colorado finished with six penalty sixty seven yards, but two
of those were DPI calls that were that were backbreakers.
The margins are too thin for you to have those
kind of metal apses, you know, for this team to

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have those kinds of metal apses. And now you go
up against the DCU team where you're a huge underdog
in this one.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think they can cover a spread then.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I mean TCU thirteen and a half against dc TCH
is good football tea. But I still think they can
cover the spread on that. But yeah, they are kind
of who he thought they were, you know about a
five hundred football team. You are replacing two Heisman finalists.
You know, this was always going to be a rough spot.
The question is where do they go from here? Is
Juju going to come back after Cayden Salter's gone? Is
that going to be the guy who's the future. Is

(05:19):
he going to hit the portal?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean, these days you gotta worry about guys in
the portal.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Okay, so you do worry about it.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
But if if there's no indication that he's leaving, I'm
just you know.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Right, because anything could happen right right between you know,
now and then. But if someone is in Juju's ear,
and I'm talking about someone smart.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
They're telling you him, man, just wait your time, your turn.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah right, because we Rystob has proven that he's not
the guy. He can come in as a backup and
give you a couple of plays here and there and
can so you know, Salta will move on for Juju.
Now the rains are not going to be handed over
to you. So take this time to learn and watch
from those players. Learn everything you can, because now you

(06:00):
gonna end up being the guy. And like we've we've
seen Wichard Door and Travis here, I mean, Boulder can
turn up, especially if you start to win. And that's
the one thing that he has to keep in mind.
And hopefully the people around you. You they're constantly telling
him that because there's no guarantee that you transfer, you
jump into portal, that you're.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Gonna have success somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Look at the kid from Tennessee, Yes U c l A.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, God, it looks I mean he looks terrible, you
know in that offense.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well I'm not gonna say you got Sean Foster fire, but.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
That was Yeah, there's a lot of large part.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I mean, you paid a lot of money to get
that kid there, and uh, and he he looks like
he just doesn't understand what's going on. That Tennessee offense
do a lot of heavy lifting on him. Uh, it's
probably a mistake. A lot of get these guys hit
the portal and realize that it's I mean, there are
guys that hit the portal and and it's good for him.
I think cam Ward played that thing phenomenally. Uh, but
there are a lot of guys who hit that portal.
Is not necessarily beneficially with Carson back. He's on what

(06:56):
you know, his third team or whatever it is now,
and uh, you know, it looks like he can't seem
to get anything going up.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Part of it looks like he.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Might have blown out that elbow. He'll take the same guy.
He looked like a Georgia. But you know, there's there's
the portal is not always the grass is not always greener, right, No.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
My mother would always say, uh, the girl when you
flip it over, it's brown, right, It's not always greener.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, And that's that's one of those things I think
a lot of these kids need to learn, is or
have people out there to tell I'm like, look, just
because you're not starting right now doesn't mean you won't
be keep working your butt off.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Where you're atty got the investment here as a guy
that loves the numbers right right, and and hasn't turned
down a good deal right. For some of these players,
it's hard for them not to gamble on themselves when
they see everyone else making them the stands amount of
money and they said, you know what, well, I can't
make it the same way. Been can't pay this Austin

(07:48):
make the same amount of money.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
He should be getting more if I'm getting paid them.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Look, and I'm and I'm all, I'm all for everybody
to get in the bag. Like I'm not trying to
I'm not trying to hate on anybody's money. But what
I am trying to say is like, you've got You've
already got the sweat eck would eat one place. Why
are you up rooting to go get in front of
a new coach where you're starting back at the bottom, you.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
Know, and having to work your way back up. You've
already got the sweat equity in over here. Yeah, I
mean this is sweat equity. Yeah, that should that count
for something? Yes, and we're talking about in an error
where we grew up. They count for something it doesn't
count for daily squad.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Now, yeah, I guess that's fair.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
They just I still have that mentality like I'll put
the work in, you know this, now it's my time.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Some of these kids are thinking just like you. Yeah,
they thinking in doollars of cents. If it doesn't add up,
then it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
And who's to say the school is not going to
bring someone into your position next year and pay them money.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
And that's and that's entirely fair. That is entirely fair.
That that's something I.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Think with the NIL over the next decade, they're gonna
have to work out some sort of guarantees, like you're
not going to replace me, you know if you're bringing me.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
No no, no no no no no no okay, So.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
A contract, yes, right to say that if I am
on the hook for this amount of money, we have
you for this amount of time, if you ought to go.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
To cut me, you're not just gonna cut me and
take the money. And I like, I missed out on
my chance to go somewhere.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Else, right, But if you go somewhere else, then that
school that you're going to guess what they're gonna have
to compensate us. Right now, I would like to say,
well with a draft pick, but we can't do that.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
But compensate me with a scholarship.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Take a scholarship from you, and we're gonna take money
from you, because now you're taking money out of our pocket. Right,
So now you get that back because some of these kids,
they're being wrongfully advised, right, and they're thinking all of
this money and why can't I get some of this money?
But you're blowing an opportunity. Could you imagine, and both

(09:46):
of you guys weigh on this, could you imagine if
you had a scholarship full paid and I know none
of us come from families with deep pockets and money.
Could you imagine telling you calling getting on the phone,
calling your mom and I'm jumping in the portal to
get a Scott because I'm trying to get a scholarship
somewhere else. And she's like, went, hold on for a second.
Now you're telling me you've giving up the scholarship and

(10:08):
hopes that in the whole another one right, not guaranteed
kings Uh huh man. My mom would have slapped my
teeth out of my face. She would slapped me back
out of the portal. Yeah, I mean in the port
it's just be like some marvels, you know what.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, he's looking up. I came flying up the
other side of it.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, I've been falling for six hours. She pussed you
in the chest and your souldiers.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh man, Yeah, I mean, Look, the portal's good for
some guys. But I think for about eighty percent of
the guys that you see in the portals, you say
weren't good enough the place they were at, they're trying
to go. They're trying to get somewhere else, to get
out in front of somebody and get and get a
starting gig. I think it's good for about twenty percent
of guys. There are guys like cam Ward the portal's
good for. I think there are there are instance cities
where it's good, But I haven't seen it be highly

(10:56):
beneficial for a P five program at all.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
No, And once again, you guys have to look at
the situation objectively. And I know everyone is chasing the bag,
but I think what's happening to a lot of kids,
once again, the wrong advice.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
But Also, kids are unwilling.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
To compete, right, And for me, being an experienced guy,
not older being experienced guy, I would say that that's
kind of something that is hurting this generation, the unwillingness
to compete and the idea of feeling entitled.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
There's there's no such things as feeling entitled. Either you're
going out there and you're earning it. There's no thing
you're gonna sit in the corner. We're just gonna give
it to you. I don't even give things to my kids, right, it's.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Not hey, birthdays and things that happened in December.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
But other than that, no, no, no, no, you work
for every single thing, right. It's that blue collar working mentality.
But a lot of these college kids they don't have this.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I don't think it's just college kids. I think it's
kids in general.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, you get a lot of kids these days
that just think that they're entitled to two things.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
There was I can't remember what it was.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I was having some debate with somebody a while back
and they were like, well, yeah, but that's not fair
because this, and I'm like, fair, what is fair got
to do with it?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
And we don't, don't you know fair, you go out
there and earn it, but either earned it or you didn't.
It's not fair that some guy got this and you
didn't get this. What are you talking about? Life ain't
fair in the world w NBA salaries. It's not fair that.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm like, bro, the league only makes this much money,
like you. She shouldn't get the same amount of money
as Steph Curry, you know, because the league doesn't make
that much money to divvy up.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
See see that brings me back to someone father would
say fair one fair that you'll you mean where they
have rides and Nato conon candy, Yeah, that's only fair.
A funnel kicks the fair. That's that's how That's how
my dad parented.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Right. Unfair with some tickets to go on the ride.
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Some people have been saying that to push is unfair,
but not Sean Payton. Sean Payton came out and said
that he supports the touch push Listen.

Speaker 8 (13:06):
I'm I was one that stood up in favor of
the reason I stood up in favor of is is
pretty simple.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
If if.

Speaker 8 (13:16):
The powers to be don't want it for aesthetic reasons
or competitive reason, you know, or it's hard to officiate,
et cetera. But I've been involved in those meetings for
a long time. And when all of a sudden health
and safety was pulled into that which which might be
the safest playing football, my boyd nos kind of went up.

(13:38):
And so look at the quarterback sneak and and I
think credit Philadelphia. They scored a touchdown last week. Take
a peek at this past week's touchdown off the toush
push look, and it was a you know, a suite
to the left, you know that. So I'm I'm I'm
I'm I'm one that looks at it.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
You know, as long as the.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
Line of scrimmage is clean, that uh, it's a it's
a it's a well run quarterback sneak and and when
you really evaluate it, it's more the technique of the
sneak than the push. And so you go all the
way back to Green Bay against h Dallas in the

(14:22):
Ice Bowl and and fricking bart Star crosses the goal
line with someone pushing a little bit behind them. I mean, uh,
So I was one that, uh that was in favor
of leaving it alone. You know, on Philly's side, I tend.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
To agree with him the same way as if you're
going to ban something, you have to ban the concept
of pushing and pulling players.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Uh, you can't just ban a play just because people
aren't able to stop it.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Someone will solve it, Someone will figure it out. You know,
things in the NFL ten ten to get solved. Uh,
you know the Wildcats hot one week and then the
next thing, you know, a month later, nobody can run it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Uh, things get solved.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, they do, But this is one of those conundrums
that no one has been able.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
To figure out. We've seen other teams try to emulate it.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
The Buffalo Bills tried to do it last season against
the Chiefs in the playoffs, but they were unsuccessful.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
And this seemed like something that's kind of unique to
the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I think when Shane Stiking was there, he was one
of those guys who helped kind of come up with it.
And now since they've gone through but the third iteration
of OC, they found a way to perfect it. And
it goes back down to technique. So I expect the
Broncos to spend a lot of time trying to coach

(15:45):
through it and tell guys what to do.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
But once again with the fake to push.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
It only adds another wrinkle to it and makes it
really difficult to stop.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, I think my only thing is we need to
officiate it a little bit better because they've been cheating
some yardage out of that thing up off sides. But
otherwise I have almost no problem with it. NFL six
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Speaker 1 (16:24):
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Speaker 4 (16:27):
With that.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Let's get to the NFL six pac. It's time for
the NFL six Pad.

Speaker 8 (16:32):
I'm gonna train the last year insight and insight information
you can't find anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Six the top six NFL headlines.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
One kickers are making longer and longer field goals and
this week's coming upon it. Eagles defensive coordinator at former
Broncos head coach Vic Fangio has an explanation for the
sudden uptick and ridiculously long three pointers. Vote you know
what you guys have missed, Not just you, but everybody
is we gave up a sixty five yard field goal,
any fifty eight yard field goal against the Bucks. These

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kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically changed
the kicking game field goals in particular, it's almost like
they need an aster risk here. It's the live ball
era or the asterisk for home runs. The way Barry Bond,
Samy Sosid, Mark McGuire we're hitting. They've changed the ball
the NFL, the kicking ball has drastically changed the field
goals end quote. Previously, team's got three brand new kicking

(17:22):
balls within sixty to ninety.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Minutes before a gaving game started.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
As of the season, and Chris Boswell explained it to
the media after hitting sixty yardield goal to beat the
Jets and Week one teams get all sixty kicking balls
to start the year, unlimited time to break them in,
and each can be used in up to three games.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Fanjio basically said the same thing today. Quote.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
In years past, the officials would rub them down, or
people would rub them down. You play with them now,
the balls are at house a week. They kick those
balls that they've had, nobody else touches them. The guy
in Dallas is going to hit a seventy plus yard
or this year you could just book it, whether it's
Brandon Aubrey of the aforementioned Cowboys, or Bucks kicker Chase mcloffe,
that or Boswell or another big league kicker. Feels like
a seventy yard field goal is eventually inevitable. Jaguars kicker

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Camp Little hit a seventy yard field goal in preseason.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Bangio was asked.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Whether the Caball dynamic changes the way he.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Calls defenses, and he said, yeah, I mean, who thought
they would hit a sixty five yarder the other day?
So it's drastically changed the game, the kicking game. The
field goal guys have longer.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Range than they used to.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
It doesn't deed change everything, especially lates tweaks to the rules,
which could make it easy for a team to get
in range pretty quick. What do we think about the
CA balls or the new kicking balls extending the range
of kicking field goals in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I'm saying this is just part of the evolution of
the game. Everything is going to change at some point.
There's more technology being used in games than in the
years past. But as we talked to talk about the
kicking distance being furth as far as the kicks that
guys have made, we've also seen this year a number

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of block kicks. Yeah, some return for two points in
some return uh were for two points of scores. So
for me, it's it was good for the goods to
go through the game that this is part of the
evolution of the game, and we might as well get.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
On board with it. Okay, I and this is uh,
that was the other part was gonna get to. This
is are we attributing any of.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
These block cut your block kicks to the k balls?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Like, what's going on with They call a sudden in
the fact that we're getting all these block field goals.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
They call that bad technique of front.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Okay, that's what that's called. Fair enough, Yes, rub them
down or peop would rub them down. You play with them.
Two oh, he saved that one of well, I walked
right into that one.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill is under underwent surgery today. It
coach Mike McDaniel confirmed that the procedure will repair multiple ligaments.
Obviously his seasons done, McDaniel said, our focus as a
team is to support him. I think there's some competitive
greatness from our doctors for critical execution in a very
timely fashion.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
That did very well with the injury for him.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
McDaniel did not have a recovery timeline for cale, but
noted that he is not expected to need additional surgeries
after this one.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
He said it hadn'tdeemed anything beyond the surgery.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Or hopefully for it's to turn out well. It's just
executing this procedure and see what happens from there. The
Gang of praise the medical professionals, noting their urgency prevented
his injury from becoming any worse. It's impossible to replicate
what tyreek Kill's exact skill set is, but they said
that the kids getting plenty of reps operating without him
the saut season.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
And that's prepared them for what they need to do next.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yreka twenty one catches two hundred and six of ve yards
and a touchdown before suffering the dislocated knee and multiple
liget injury on Monday night, And if you saw the
gruesome photo his leg looked like it was no longer
attached at the knee. What do you think about the
Tyreek kill injury? And I want to get your thoughts
on that before we get into another injury here.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Well, it's very unfortunate for a guy at the stage's
career to suffer a long lake injury also known as
though when you look at the design of calling a
guy the cheatah saying, the animal itself is that without
the speed, it's no longer able to feed itself.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Now that's not the case with Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Who's made a substantial amount of money in his time,
and right now his only focus needs to be on
trying to get back on the field and be healthy.
It seems as though, with the way that we saw
his leg actually twist and turn, and what we've heard
about the injury itself, it doesn't seem to be as
bad as we initially thought.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I don't know, man, I looked at that they like
when I initially looked at that thing.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's a career render.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Especially for a guy who relies on speed the way
that he does, Like, I don't know, We'll see, we'll
see how it goes back that obviously he's not gonna
be back this year or so.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I mean, you can't think that he's ever going to
be the same.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, you know, you're never going to be the same.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
But we've seen other players in years past turn into
possession receivers and he has the ability to be able
to do that. If he can come back from this
and master lot of.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
A movement, yeah, then that remains to be seen.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Let's get to the next one, which New York Giants
picked up their first win of the season, obviously, but
they us suffered a massive loss. MRI Monday confirmed Malik
Neighbors suffered a torn acl against the Chargers. Neighbors took
to social media and shared a brief but heartfelt message
saying I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Beyond impacting the twenty twenty five Giants outlook.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Neighbor's injury kind of reopened the debate amongst fans, pundits, players, etc.
But the concerned of MetLife Stadium's turf and the number
of devastating injuries that had befallen athletes on that specific
turf over.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
The last few years.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Just since twenty twenty, Nick bosis Alom and Thomas Jabril
Pepper's Wandell Robinson, Starling Shepard, Kyle Fuller, Aaron Rodgers and
now Malik Neighbors all have had those injuries on that
field turf course system. You've played in that stadium before,
maybe not on the current turf, but because that was
installed in twenty twenty three. But what do you think
about this current debate on the turf that they're using there.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Well, I can see why we have this debate.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Ill love natural grass because it's better to fall on
you can cut and get pivot. But looking at elite
neighbors injury, it wasn't like, you know, Aaron Rodgers. I
mean he was actually jumping in the air and kind
of came down on it awkwardly. So this is not
one that I would say, well it was because of

(23:18):
the turf at MetLife. To me, it was just kind
of wrong place, right time.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Type of situation.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
But it makes for a big conversation about natural turf
versus actual grass.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Since twenty nineteen, sixteen players have suffered ACL or achilles
injuries at Met Life. That's most in the NFL. Second
place would be Cleveland with six.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, is there a chance that it's not so much
the field turf, but just kind of an aura that's
taking place and met Life like, maybe someone needs to
come up with some sage.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Before the game, all right, man, man whatever, a sage
of bell, some crystals at this point out even I
don't believe in it.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Stuff and you know it, I would wear saves on
my belt if I were to play there.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Get that liner in your pocket.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Matt Life Stadium does plan.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
To install an old grass field for the twenty twenty
six World Cup next summer. There have been pleased for
the stadium operators to keep the grass permanently given that
you have two professional football teams, college games, and other
events year round at the stadium.

Speaker 7 (24:19):
I just don't understand why with all the money in
the NFL, like they can roll and field in and
roll it back out after every game.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Okay too, Okay, the Raiders do that, but it's motorized.
So we're talking about owners. Are they willing to pony
up the money to be able to do it? And
one of the reason why you have, you know, artificial
turf from places where it gets cold, because.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Just to keep growing.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, look I have I still have a mark on
my hip from intercepting Peyton Manning and being pushed on
the ground by Jeff Saturday, So I mean it hurts.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Saturday was trying to roll you in a Monday Yes
he was. Or Rock Party, Ricky here.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Sol, Juwan Jennings all listed as non participants forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Injury report pretty much as expected.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Quarterback Rock Party with the toe wide receiver, Ricky Pearson
with the knee wide receiver, Juwan Jennings ankle rib did
not participate in the walkthrough today.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
The Niners estimated the miss non participants.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
The will mender John Lynch called Perty and pearsall questionable
for Thursday night football against the Rams. Party missed weeks
two and three before playing on Sunday, but his tow
injury flared back up afterwards. Defensive end Robert bel as
well as wide receiver Jordan Watkins remain out of practice
as well. Defensive end Yonder Gross Models defensive tackle CJ.
West return to practice on a limited basis. Back of

(25:37):
quarterback Mac.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Jones has a knee issue.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mac Jones an officer tackle Colton mckimviitt's say, caf are
full participants. Jones will start if Party can't play in
the last of our injury triumvirate here, Why are the
Niners having so much injury problem?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Realthy can't put my finger on it, and just a
run of that luck.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's almost like someone is trying someone or something is
trying to derail them.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
But here's the interesting thing in this.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Ben Kyle Shanahan, in my opinion, is by far one
of the better coaches in the NFL. One he has
a great offensive mind creatively, but if there's ever coach
who's been able to take lemonade to make lemon out
of it, it's.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Been one Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
I mean, just think about he went to the Super Bowl,
lost against Kansas City with mister irrelevant. So to me, yes,
are these challenges for Kyl Shanahan and John John Lynch, Yes,
but they've found ways to kind of continue to battle
through and win games.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
An interesting side note to that Thursday night football game.
By the way, according to vivid Seats, which.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Attracks ticket sales data, sixty percent of the fans at
Sofi Stadium on Thursday evening will be Niners fans.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Sounds like a Broncos at five stays so Rams.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's a Ram's home game, but it's going to basically
be a Niners home game real quick on that.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
More Niners injury news.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
What's going on with Brandon Ayu because Shanahan last week
said he's not close he's coming back.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
He's not close to coming back. He's still deal with
that injury. That's going to be a while. You're you're
probably looking at did we ten before he's back out there?
So not not even close at this point.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
By the way, the text line said, sacrifice a live
chicken at MetLife.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Joe buy five.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Robert Sala go the Niners.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
Said he used a poor choice of words to compliment
Liam Cohen forty nine DC Robert Sala's comment last week
that the Jags are almost delete at stealing signs legally,
he was not taken kindly by Jaguars head coach Liam
Cohen to where two men exchange words on the field
after uh Sunday's twenty six twenty one Jaguars win, Cohen
telling Sala to keep his name out of his bleeping mouth,

(27:56):
and Salah responding in kind.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
First of all, I'm not sure I'm bowing up to
Robert Salo's.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like of all the coaches Indiana, like Dad Campbell can
bow up to Robert Solo, but the pretty much everybody
else's it says.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
You're probably risking risking it for the Biscuits.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Fayre Sala addressed the incident oppresser today and reiterated he
was not accusing the Jaguars of doing anything was against
the rules. You say, he thinks if I had to
do the word film study rather than mentioning signals, there
would have been no response to what he meant as
a compliment to what Cohen and the Jaguar staff are doing,
saying the coach watching their tape, I recognize the amount
of hours that must be spent to be able to

(28:31):
build formations and define every the lindicator they can to
give their players a chance to be successful.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Some do it better than others.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It was my way of acknowledging these guys are really,
really good at a follow up question noted that Salah
didn't have a reputation for losing his cool by asking
about his animated response to Cohen, Solid responded, everybody has
a trigger, I guess, before moving on to discuss the
team's Thursday night game against the Rams's.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Who's in the wrong here? I mean, if you guys
see this, who's in the wrong here on this?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And how much of his own life was Liam Cohen
take can get his hands trying to wolf at Robert Sawaw.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Listen, I don't know who was in the wrong in this,
but uh, I've been around Robert sala So here man, Rober,
you know, a very large man played linebacker in college,
and he's the thing that was really interesting to me.
I see the same that happens in baseball when guys
cleared the bench. It's just like you stand behind someone
and you wait for them to hold you back, and
then you talk a lot of smack when it's just like, well.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
If you really want to get after that guy, you
go break free. And I don't know if Liam Colin
one of that's smoke.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
I think Liam Kuhns just feeled himself after a three
and one start with Jags, I mean maybe, but also like, yeah,
this is one of those situations where you're like, if he.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Wasn't holding me back, and did you realize there's nobody
and he grabs his hand and puts a brown if
he wasn't holding me back right now, you know, yeah,
you're not bowing up on Robert sala Is a jack
dude like, you're not You're not.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
That's not the one. Now people know that's not the one, dude.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Ball six coach Dion Sanders recently confirmed that his son
Shade Or asked both the Ravens and Eagles not to
draft I've been In hindsight, maybe shed Or should have
said yes after learning the game behind studying two time
NFL MVP, Shdoor would have had a chance to play.
Jackson has been injured in the past, and he's now
has a hamstring injury that reportedly is going to cause
me to miss two or three weeks.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Chador could have been.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Playing as soon as this Sunday against the Houston Texans.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Of course, he would have had to be a Cooper
Rush for the right to eat backup. But as we're
in Cleveland, where Shador believed you have a better shot
and earning the starting job he beat out neither Joe
Flacco nor Dylan Gabriel. Obviously, Schodor's pats being the full
time QB one remains easier in Cleveland. And then, because
the Browns don't really have a quarterback with skills to
remotely comparable to Labar Jackson's, Jackson missed five games in
twenty one, six games in twenty two. The opportunity to

(30:40):
play would have come here by week five with a
franchise has been far more stable. Another factor to consider
Jackson's contract expires after the twenty twenty seven season. Price
of a franchise tag in twenty twenty eight, it's going
to be exhorbited. In Baltimore, she had a shot to
be the heir apparent. What do we think about that?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
With the benefit of hindsight, it a nov I know
that sounds great to say, well, hey, go to Philly,
go to Baltimore. Hey, you could be the next man
up three to four years from now. No, when you
are a competitor, you want to go out and play now.
I had the same conversation with Ryan Edwards, and I
was like, you're asking a kid who grew up competing

(31:19):
to now take a back seat.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
No, Cleveland proves to be a better chance for.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Door to be able to overtake Dylan Gabriel if given
the opportunity to do so.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Even with the.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Fact that Lamar having a hamstring injury, there's no guarantee
he would have overtaken Lamar or Jillen Hurts.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, I mean I get that. I just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
For me, I'm looking at the stable organization and trying
to work my way up. I would have got the
chance to play. He would be ostensibly the Ravens starting quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Well, Tyler Huntley was behind Lamar for a lot of years. Yeah,
and Ryan was like, oh, look at the development in
that organization. Where's Tyler Huntley still a damn backup quarterback?
Is he even think he's an employed bro?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I mean, just proved your point more. Yeah, just writers,
if you're listening there.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
You go.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Broncos Country today, back inter this.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
You don't go commanding another guy's fatig got him
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