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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
You doing this? Seating good guys. I was just in
the commercial break before before he came back. I was
watching the twenty year old Jackson Surio Homer in the
playoffs for the Brewers.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So I may or may not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Have yelled in my living room.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That was what that sound was. We were trying to
figure out. We thought we had some faulty equipment. We
didn't know what's going on. I didn't know you were
a Brewers fan.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah. Yeah, I grew up in Wisconsin. Okay, if that
are the Cubs, and I would never do that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, I was born in Saint Louis. I could never family.
We just owe me. So you know, Parker, we got.
It's an interesting set up here. The Broncos finished that
first quarter of the season.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
At an even five hundred and it's interesting because some
of those games to those games could have gone either way.
The Jets game and the this Steelers game probably could
have gone either way. But they finish with an East
Coast trip two early games, they get the wins, they
find ways to to either get the wins or not
lose them.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
In the case of New York, and we're coming home
for a two game.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Stretch against banged up AFC West upon us, they look
suddenly winnable. All of a sudden, the Broncos look like
they have the road paved in front of them.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, it's kind of funny, Ben, Like, I got this
question in our mail bag for the Denver Post this
week about what letter grade would you give the Broncos
And I'm not I mean we do that so far,
like through four games, right, and like we do that
each game and I'm not a big fan of the
letter grade thing, but it just it got me to
thinking about, like, okay, quarter to the way through, what
do you make of the Broncos? And it's kind of
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funny that, like I think you actually for all of
the zero to two and what are they going to
be this year and all of that, Like I think
you feel ethan about where they're at right now, and
maybe even you know, somewhat heartened if you're a fan,
just because of how good the defense has been, and
you know, are they going to be third in overall
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defense and scoring defense all year? You know, maybe not,
But even if they're a top ten defense, if the
offense comes around at all, you maybe have something to
work with. And so I think they're in a pretty
decent spot. Bronco's fans and folks that cover the team,
people have been covering the team a lot longer than me.
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I think we're a little bit conditioned to say, okay,
two and two, two home games coming up, to beat
up teams coming up, like how is it going to
go wrong? But listen, if they're in front of them,
there's thirteen teams, there are two and two, and they've
got a chance to really, you know, do a little
bit of damage and stack a couple more wins here
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over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
All right, Parker, the broadcos defense has been playing exceptionally,
even though we still find ourselves talking about the offense.
But one player in particular is I guess falling on
the under the radar if I can say that, And
that's been the production of PS two because he's typically
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tasked with following the other team's top player around, but
he is still performing at a high level.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh, no doubt. I mean it's pretty amazing. Actually, I
just wrote about Pat today, story went up a little
bit ago. I mean, he what he's doing, you know,
Levi Wallace obviously veteran guy than around the NFL for
a long time. I was talking to him in the
locker room today and he put it pretty simply. He said,
he said, the thing that Pat's doing right now is crazy.
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I mean, he's he has pretty much he rates the
top receiver of the other team each of the first
four weeks. It would have been awesome to see him
this weekend when he's in this kind of form, going
against Pat or going against Devonte Adams of the Raiders
obviously seem like that's going to happen at this point.
But it's just he does it in a way that
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it's so sort of like unremarkable. You could just miss
it the entire game, and all of a sudden you
look up and George Pickens has one catch he came
metcalf as three for twenty nine, Mike Evans has one
catch for eight yards, and then Garrett Wilson, you know,
two for twenty two. And this is just it's sort
of just what he does every week. And so it's
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one of those things where it's like, you know, whether
you're a film junkie or you know, you're an All
twenty two type or not. Like if you ever get
a chance to find a set of watching Pat you know,
all of his reps one on one against these guys
so far during the season. I mean, it is just
you can't watch it and not marvel at the kind
of player he is and the kind of role that
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he's on right now with the way he's playing.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Talk with Parker Gabriel. Excuse me, I'm talking with Parker Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Parker, we look at the Jets game and in the
second half the Bonco's finally this season made a commitment
to the ground game and it paid dividends.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You saw Javonte get in a rhythm.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You saw uh, you know, Juel's McLoughlin get getting in
a rhythm, and I think part of that Tyler Benet
goes down early and Sean Payton's hand was sort of
forced in the sense that he couldn't rotate those guys
as much.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
As he wanted.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
How much can we expect them to commit to that
going forward, because I think this is the key to
unlocking what bo Nicks is is having a strong ground game.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And building off that. But they've been reluctant to do
that thus far.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, they have been. It's been sort of it's sort
of interesting, like you got you got even sort of
like taste of it today that that make me skeptical
that they're going to stick with it again on what
you know, hopefully it's a beautiful day on Sunday here
in Denver, and like you heard Bo today, bo Knicks
today talk about how you know, they just the last
time they could really spin it was in Tampa and
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it was sunny. Both he and Sean Payton both said,
you know, it's not an excuse, but both attributed a
lot of the first half, you know, lack of rhythm,
negative seven yards passing the first half of Bonnicks to
the weather, and so it just it seems to me
that the way that they played against Tampa, with a short,
rhythm passing game, that's like the way they want to
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play now. I tend to agree with you Ben that, like,
you know, I think they should be running it thirty
times a game. I'm obviously not the coach or a
coach in the NFL, but when they've done that, and
not just this year at bon Nick, but going back
to last year, the best, the most control of games
they had were the games where they didn't just run
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the football at the end of the game to lead
the clock when they already had a league like they
did in Tampa. It's committing to the run and bullying people.
And they have an offensive line. We've talked about this before.
They have an offensive line that's structured to do exactly that. So,
you know, it's just one of those things where it
looks like they're built one way, they like playing the
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other way. Quarterback seems more comfortable so far playing the
other way. And that there's a little bit of tension there,
just philosophically. I don't mean tension like between players and
coaches or among coaches or among players. They're just as
a tension in what looks like the way they're built
on paper versus the way they seemingly want to play.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
What are your thoughts when you look at this defense
and you see so many different people finding ways to
make plays? And what I mean by that because Zach
Allen has made a lot of plays.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Now we're not.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Talking about Jack Allen lighting up the stat sheet is
having like eight to ten sacks, but he is a
game rerecord. He's impacting the game. But also linebacker Christian Welch.
I mean, it wasn't a here for the team with
a long for a long period of time. But even
the game against the Jets, you saw.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
His number flashing.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
What does it say about what Vas Joseph is doing
to get these guys to truly buy in and play
as a team.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, great callin Nick, especially on Christian Welsch. I love
that because Christian Welch on Sunday against New York played
three defensive snaps. The three snaps on the goal line
and it was assisted tackle on first down, Stone breeze
haul on second down, and then bailed I think just
enough in to coverage after he and Cody Barton both
got sucked up. They sort of jointly recovered just enough
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for Aaron Rodgers to get pressured by John Franklin Myers
and have to throw the ball away on third down.
So like that's sort of the way they're going right now.
Is like, you know, they got a guy that plays
three snaps on the goal line. He makes an impact
on all three of those plays. You know, the kid
all starts for the Jets and they have to kick
a field goal instead of what you would imagine ninety
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five percent of the time as a touchdown. So that's
just the way they're going right now. You know, they're
like I don't think Devin Key played it all defensively Sunday,
but he's the guy of the first couple of weeks
right spot duty looks completely comfortable playing in place of
Brandon Jones when that's been the case. Just it's sort
of so far, whatever Vance Joseph's push with this defense
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has pretty much worked, And that's a sign I think
of guys being comfortable in the system, and it's also
just a sign that they feel really good about where
they're at as a group. And listen, like, you know,
John Franklin Myers is sort of in the Zach Allen
camp where he doesn't have huge numbers at this point,
but he has and you know, been Ben, you got
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to talk about this. We've all talked about this since
the beginning of camp, Like he really changed their defense.
Like the way that their defensive line is now is
so much different than what it looked like last year.
It's you can't even compare it, even though two of
the starters in Zach Allen and DJ Jones are the
same guys. And so that's really been the engine that's
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driven them so far on defense, is their ability to
play against the run and pressure of the quarterback. But yeah,
it's been a fun group to watch so far. And
it's like like you said, every time they throw somebody in,
it seems like they make a play.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Talk with Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter
covers the Broncos for the Denver Post. Yeah, JFM, or
as I call him JMF because he's so unbelievable, really
has been.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
A force on that line.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It kind of changed the attitude, I think as well,
DJ Jones taking the positions, which has gone a lot
better than I expected it to too. You look at
what the Broncos have done. Almost every person that they
have brought in has been a hit this year, and
it's opposed to perhaps in recent years where they haven't.
Frank Clark didn't work out, Rady Gregory didn't work out.
You look at something the guys they brought in Brandon
you I mean you look, you move on from Justin
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Simmons and you expect to drop off in safety play
and Brandon Jones has been around the ball every game.
You move on from Josie Jewel, you lose Alex Singleton
the injury. Well, you got Cody Bartning here who's looking
pretty good. You got Justin Starnad who gets sacks Aaron
Rodgers on his first play. And you just talked about
Christian Welsh, you talk about JFM, you talk about, you know,
adding Riley Moss over there at the other side. This
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is a testament to I think the front office, the
scouts and the general manager of the must have beligned
George Payton in what they've put together in terms of personnel,
this defense has one first rounder on it and six
guys starting that are either Day.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Three or undrafted.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, definitely, And I mean even like you know that
they signed Zach Allen essentially instead of Draymond Jones last
year in free agency, and like Jack Allen was fine
last year. He had a nice year, but you're really
seeing I think what they envisioned and what they saw,
you know, when they signed him in the spring of
twenty three now and now that he's playing with guys
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around him that that defenses have to respect and pay
attention to. And so yeah, I think you're right. I mean,
the hit rate has been high. You know, it would
have been interesting to see with Riley Moss and Levi
Wallace had Levi been healthy and Canty wasn't. Obviously, Now
Riley's playing great, And I agree with you as on
Brandon Jones especially, I mean, he he's been solid and
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the thing that they like about him and the thing
that they liked about him in free agency is he
will come up and hit, and and he's been willing
to do that. It's really helped I think their run
support that they can play pretty interchangeably between he and
PJ Locke in terms of who's in the box. Obviously,
you know, PJ comes three on the fourth and ten
blitz and get Aaron Rodgers on that, you know in
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the last two minutes last week, you know, but Brandon
Jones can play up there and run support too, and
all of their guys are willing to tackle, and they're
just you know, it's just been a pretty good picture
for the defense, like pretty much literally outside the third
quarter in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Parker before you came on, Vin and I were having
this conversation about whether the Broncos should be buyers as
sellers come the trade deadline.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
And I know there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Of time between then and now, but if you had
to say, based on what you've seen for the Broncos
being too and too knowing of the two teams that
they have coming up with the Raiders and the Chargers,
what do you say, do you think the team should
be sellers or buyers?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh, you don't think they're gonna get DeVante Adams.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
In a perfect world, I would love that, but team
typically don't strade aside a division.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Some teams have done that in the past.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
But if it were possible for the team to do that,
I would absolutely say sign me up.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well what about Kyle Pitts, which has been my suggestion, Yeah,
I mean we listen.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well, first of all, like they need something, they need
something at tight end, they're just really you know, in
some of the run stuff. Okay, even like Greg Delfich,
I think there was a third and one where he
came across and had a little kickout block and helped
get a first down. But like by and large, that's
the position where they just they need to get a
lot more and they haven't gotten really much of anything
from the group as it's currently concrued. So Pits would
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certainly be certainly be interesting. And I think you know
what pitch is like twenty four. I mean, I think
that's the sort of player who fits the profile. So
I used him as an example, like I certainly wouldn't
mind the Broncos buying strategically even if they're around five hundred,
maybe they're on the periphery. You know, let's say they're
basically they're like they were last year, except for obviously
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they still digging out of the hole. At the trade
deadline last year, I think there were three and five,
so like if they're in the mix, but they're not
like definitely a buyer. I certain I would not mind
them strategically buying, as long as it's not somebody who
you're buying for the rest of this year to try
to eke out a wildcard spot. Like I think you're
still very much in roster building mode, and I'm guessing
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like obviously this time, yere sham Payton just win a
game no matter what. But like I think they would
tell you hard of hearts at this point that it's
still a building project. It's a roster building project all
the time, especially for them right now. So if you
could acquire somebody who you think can be part of
your group for you know, the next couple handful of years,
I think that's great, even if you're you're not writing contention.
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But like overall, I just will be surprised that they
sell because Sean Payton, you know, rarely believes that he's
out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Talking with Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter
cover so Broncos to the Denver Post last one for me,
Parker with bo Nicks, We've got a quarter of the
way through the season thus far, I'm you know, dating
back to training camp, I maintained that, you know, he
was a little inaccurate throwing behind guys. We saw that
even on the touchdown pass to Courtland Sudden, and it's
sort of been that way outside of the Tampa game,
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where he had an incredibly clean pocket to work from.
What can we do to help expedite bon Nicks in
his development?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, it's a great question. I've thought about this quite
a bit, and I think one of the challenges is
that some of the things that you typically do for
a young quarterback to help him is are things that
just are not quite in bow Knickx's wheelhouse at this point. Like,
you know, he's pretty good, he can make plays on
the run, but just playing from under center and all
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the footwork and intricacies and all of that is just
not really what he's best at at this point, not
really what he's comfortable at this point. I mean, most
guys you don't say, hey, let's let's let's try to
help our young quarterback out and put him in the gun,
you know, empty. But bo Nicks, when we asked him
about empty a couple of weeks ago, He's like, yeah,
I love that you know, so he's a little bit
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of a of a roof exkew just in terms of
like what's normally good for a young quarterback and what
bo Nicks is comfortable with don't seem to me to
be exactly the same thing. So I think they've got
to continue to protect them, and they just you know,
I think they've got to hit on some stuff down
the field. They tried, you know, he threw it up
for Troy Franklin on Sunday and and I just maintain, like,
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run the football play from under center, like these are
the This is where my brain goes, And I'm like,
how do you help a young quarterback? And that doesn't
seem to be what they like to do. So I'm
not really sure, but it'll be interesting to see how
they try to, you know, help him along over the
next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well that's right, well, at least to look good doing
it in those throwback uniforms. This weekending for Raiders Week, Parker,
we always appreciate that, Tod.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Look forward to seeing you out there on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
All right, got a good night, guess absolutely, take care,
Parker Gables never post six pack.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
We come back thanks to Parker Gabriel joining us in
the last segment.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
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Speaker 6 (17:22):
Hey guys, is Stacy from Utah. Hey, I'm late doing
and in tonight I'm just wondering do you know if
Odrick Uestimate is back active? And do you know if
Watson is going to be on the active roster as well?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Do you guys have a good night.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, Adric Guestame is still hurting right now. What do
you say, Blake Watson? No, they signed Salvin Ahmed, the
former Miami Dolphins running back, to the practice squad. I
suspect he will be in the mix as well. More
of a power guy, he can catch a little bit
out of the backfield. I suspect that wull be the case.
When ODER get to make is fully healthy, he'll be
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back in the mix. Like they drafted him to be
the guy to be the early down guy, to be
the like Latavious Murray used to be for the Saints
when Sean Payton was there. So as maybe the guy
Watson uh for whatever reason, I mean, look good pre
season camp, they for whatever reason is not just not
cracked that rotation.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
For the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Well, the reason I feel is though Watson hasn't cracked
that rotations because Julim McLoughlin, Right, they're kind of the
same player body size type wise, and they are very
explosive and dynamic. But you have Juliu who has continued
to prove that, hey, listen, I wasn't drafted, but I'm
going to press you every single time because.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
I'm not going to give up the spot.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And he's shown if he's used effectively, he could.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Be very productive.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Because I go back really quickly to the Jets game.
You had a first down by Javonte. Right after that,
there was another first down by Jeelim McLoughlin.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
So I mean, well, let's see what happens on Sunday,
But I like Jeli neverw.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I do this well.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Shout out to our guy Lance Sanderson who texted in
Brandon Jones and PJ. Lock brings so much versatility of
the defense and it makes it difficult to read and
VJ can get in credibly creative with his blitz packages.
Jones might be the free agent edition of the year.
I mean, technically John Frankly Myers wasn't a free agent,
was a trade. But I think he and Jones on
this defense have really added something that really brings some
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value to this defense and in terms of in each level,
in terms of what they do. And I'm with you,
I did I thought it would be impossible to replace
Justin Simmons, and it is impossible in a way. But
Brandon Jones has come in and certainly taking the sting
out of a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
He's making the conversation a conversation right right, But he
hasn't officially hit the point where he is replaced the
production right of one Justine Simmons. To me, if Broncos
played Kansas City and he has to pick, that's just
saying because.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
He got to pick on Mahomes and the Falcons game.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Robin's like bad Kryptonite is still there, still there. And
with that, let's get the NFL six pack. It's time
for the NFL sixth pad.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I'm gonna trade a last beer, insight and inside information
you can't find anywhere else. No.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Six the top six NFL headline.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
What well?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The Raiders have eleven players out of practice. Devanta Adams
of course wants to trade. Get the more of that
here in just a second. But the Raiders, man, they
are banged up. Adams initially listed with a hamstring injury
when he was a participant in practice.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He missed Sunday's game.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He's not been back in practice since, and he's not
trending towards a return against the Broncos a week five.
The Raiders had ten other players out of practice today
anklety edge rutger Max Crosby, who has a high ankle sprain,
played through at week three in the miss Sunday's game.
Starting linebacker Divine Diablo has an oblique injury. Offensive tackle
Fair Month third has a knee and ankle injury cornered
the Cameron Richardson as a hamstring. Tight End Michael Mayer
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was out for personal reasons Canai Molaga with a calf,
offensive guard Dylan Parham has an achilles, wide receiver Tyrek
McCallister is a shoulder issue, offensive tackle Colton Miller knee
and shoulder issue, and safety is Say a poll of
Moule was out per a personal issue. Safety Trey Taylor
had a knees or zemer running back excuse the running
back to May White had a growing issue, and linebacker
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Luke Masterson had a kne issue.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But those three were limited in and not out.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Raiders limping into this thing, maybe even literally pretty banged up.
If you're the Broncos, you gotta kind of be licking
your chops if their best offense and best defensive player
looks like they're going to be.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Out for this game.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
No, this is not a thing of the Broncos looking
at the chops, because even to utter that phrase means
that you're gonna take your opponent very lightly. But you
gotta remember this is the team that the Broncos haven't
beaten in the eight tries. So the worst thing that
you can come up against is an animal of any
sort with their backs against the corner because they're realizing
that the wheels have fallen off the wagon.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
They have a lot of injuries, there are a.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Lot of question marks at the quarterback position. And oh,
by the way, your top receiver has asked for a tray.
That's a team that's desperate. That's the team that's willing
to come in and try almost anything. Maybe a triple
reverse pass on the first player of the game.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
There you go, don't want I don't ever want to
take the Raiders lightly, and I want them to win
because the Denver Broncos have never beaten the loss of
Vegas Raiders. It's time to get that Dub two to win.
The Raiders trade wide receiver of Monte Adams. His next
team will need to have one specific issue under control
before the deal is done. The team will need to
have enough salary cap space to absorb adams contract salary is.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Sixteen point eight to nine million.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That works out to nine hundred and thirty eight thousand,
three hundred thirty three dollars per week. If the team
trades for him now, the cap charge for his salary
will be fourteen.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Eighteenths thirteen point one three million.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Each week, it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Will drop by another nine hundred thirty eight thousand, three
hundred and thirty three dollars. Adams also has five hundred
and ten thousand per in game active roster bonuses thirteen
games left. That's another three hundred and ninety thousand dollars
in current cap space. The new team will have to
take on the remaining salary and per game roster bonus
at the time the trade is made, which means that
if the team needs cap space, they'll have to clear
it by tinkering with other contracts and kicking the can
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in the future. Years after the deal is done, the
team that Adams could work out a new deal. If
they don't, it'll likely be a part your rental. As
next year his salary shoots up to thirty five point
six to four million, he would.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Be cut before the start of the twenty twenty five
the year.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I'm told that the two primary suitors for DeVante Adams
are the New York Jets and the New Orleans Saints.
Teams that have inquired include the Dallas Cowboys, at Buffalo
Bills and Washington Commanders, although the Bills and Cowboys are
out now as the Raiders refused to take on part
of Adam's salary in any deal. Looking at this thing,
and I know Broncos fans always want every player.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
This is not a possibility for Denver.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
The Raiders is not going to trade him in division
and the Broncos can't absorb that salary. But looking around
at this DeVante could wind up with the Saints or
the Jets. I think Broncos fans are probably hoping that
that's the Jets, a team that the Broncos have already
played and don't have to face Adams against New Orleans
in primetime on Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I think it makes more sense for the trade to
the Jets because Joe Douglas, Robert Saler and the Day
You Hack It, they're on the very thing. Lish If
the Jets don't make the playoffs, you got to say
that some people's gonna ge fired because they gotta say, well,
the Aaron Rodgers project actually fell, and Rogers and DeVante
the chemistry was unreal. So for me being a football fan,
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it was sad to see Devonte leave Green Bay and.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Not have that separation.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
But for fans of Gang green that would be a
great addition. But that means someone's gotta go.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I know who will that be?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Aaron Rodgers, no I think the Jets would like to
offload the Hassan Reddick deal at Ego. Hassan's been holding
out ever since the trade from Philadelphia. They could move
on move him to the Raiders. Clear that and then
that that helps free up some space for and not
have to worry about renegotiating. That helps free upso space
for a DeVante Adams free. Jordan Love remains limited in practice.
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Packer's quarterback Jordan Love returned from an mcl' spraying only
twenty three days after it happened.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Arguably, you shouldn't have Love.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Didn't seem one hundred percent against the Vikings giving them
Elik Willis had won two games and loves absence.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Maybe someone should have persuaded.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Him to wait another week as his next game approaches.
Love was limited to practice on Wednesday due the same
knee injury. Also missing practice were corner jy R Alexander
with a groin issue, defensive tackle Kenny Clark with a
tow guard Eggleton Jenkins with a knee, tight end Luke
Musgrave with an ankle, wide receiver Christian Watson also with
an ankle, and defensive tackle Devonte Wyatt with an ankle,
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as well. The two or two Packers visit the one
and three Rams on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Would you keep rolling Jordan Love out there?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Whoa hell? Yeah, poor guy who was injured. I know
he threw the ball fifty four.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Times, but three hundred and eighty nine yards almost mounted
a comeback against a very good Brian Flores Minnesota Viking defense.
Threw three in this substance, but he was only sacked once, right,
So that tells you that whatever the injury was, it
wasn't that big of a deal where he stopped him
because he's new through four touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, I probably would have rolled Malik Willis out there
last week, and they brought Love out against the Rams,
a team that's kind of reeling right now, to put
him back back in it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean, Florence loves to blitz. You go get hit
a lot in that game, and you've.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Got an mcl sprain, and you know you're trying to
kind of nurse that thing back.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I don't know if I would have rolled Love out
last week. I think I would have held on one
more week. But that's neither here nor there. I'm obviously
not the coach of the highly successful Green Bay Packers,
and he probably knows a lot more about football than
I do.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Four.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Derwin James says he ain't going to change bleep with
his playing style after the suspension. Chargers safety Derwin James
served one game suspension for repeated violations of the playing
rules retard to practice Wednesday, adamant the punishment for the
league won't force him to change his playing style. By
Chris Reem of ESPN, James said quote, no, I ain't
going to change bleep.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's definitely not going to change nothing. Like I said,
I'm just going to go lower. I'm not going to change.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
James said He'll focus on hitting players beneath where they
are holding the ball. I'm not going to keep paying
seven eight hundred thousand dollars, he said. James was flagg
for unncessary roughness for a hit on Steelers tight end
Pat Fryermoth in Week three. Was his seventh career unnecessary
roughness penalty, tied with Marshawn Latimer and Jordan Poyer for
second most in the NFL since twenty eighteens.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Thinker Woods has eight in that span.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The NFL announced James unpaid suspension September twenty third, after
hearing officer Derek Brooks denied his appeal. The next day,
they told me the violation the rule I broke, and
that was really it, James said. It wasn't you know
about how I could get better or what they're calling.
James added, he's gonna play my style, but like I said,
I'll just feel lower.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well, I'll say this, I like Darren james game and
he shouldn't change the way that he plays with a
certain level of physicality.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But I knew the.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
League was going to graduate to this point where defenders
were going to start hitting guys really low below the
target space. And it reminds me of something that James
Harris said when he played, because I think was it
James Harris who injured Eric Decker when the slave of
the Broncos Once again.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
It's like, where do you want me to hit him
head a gut?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Where do you want he choose where?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
This is going to force a lot of defenders who
now start going low and possibly ending guy's careers early
by acl the MCL tails right.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
What the league needs to do at this point is
stop emphasizing these penalties against players and start.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Coaching them up on how they wanted to hit.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Because you've got so many players out here saying, I
don't know what you want me to do anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I don't understand what the league intent here is.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Derwin James is saying it, Kirki Jackson was saying that,
Justin Simmons was saying, there are guys out here they're saying, look,
tell me what to do so that I can remedy this.
I think there is an intent, and I think you know.
I think you, as a defensive player, can appreciate that.
I think there's an intent from defensive players to get
it right and not just be out here attempting to
injure people or whatever else. But you can't get wider
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in the wallet because the league won't clarify what they
want you to do.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Okay, if they're gonna tell you here's what you can't do,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But tell me what I want to do right.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
And then let me focus on that.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
All my fundamentals is that work gon to doing the
Prassic practice week.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
By the fifth Sunday every regular season approaches, the team
that currently employs receivers. Stefon Diggs will host the team
that most recently employed him.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The anticipation of the Bills Texans game, ESPOS ESPN Dot
composted a long read that frankly shed no new light
on why the Bill's relationship with Diggs or why it imploded.
On Wednesday, Bill's quarterback Josh Allen biggess feelings for the
former teammate clear, saying cute.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I got a lot of love for Diggs. I still
do the things that he did for me in my career.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
The things he did in the Buffalo Bill uniform will
be forgotten any time soon, especially for me.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Things.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Current quarterbacks separately praised him, ce J Stroud saying it's
been great. Regarding his relationship with Diggs, I think you
got a bad rap by media and people. Always been
nothing but just amazing to this team as teammates. Helped
me out a ton. As you can see, you were
clicking more and more of a game. So I'm happy
for him. Happy he's finally having fun playing the game,
doing what he loves to do because he loved football
a lot. So the happy part of his journey's just
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being around him, and it's been really awesome. Diggs gets
a bad rap from some people. I don't personally give
him a bad rap. I like him always have. He
wants to win. He went out of Minnesota because he
didn't see a path to the super Bowl, and Buffalo
is a little more complicated.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
In June of twenty.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Twenty three, the toxic nature of the relationship wasn't earlier
this year. The two sides went through separate way. They'll
intersect obviously on Sunday. Diggs will surely want to get
a big game against his former team, especially after losing
badly to his first former team, the Vikings in Week three.
Do you think there's a revenge component here for Stefan Diggs?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And how do you feel like? I mean, I was
worried about him.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And sort of his outsized attitude in that locker room
because it's a bunch of young guys and being impressionable,
looking up the digs and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But what do you think about Diggs so far? What
do you think about the revenge game factor there?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I think the revenge factor is real every time a
player plays against his former team, especially when the exit
wasn't exactly what you wanted to.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
You want to have a little good back and you
just said yourself.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I mean, he's already played against another team he played
for in the Minnesota Vikings, and that did not go well.
You don't want to take zero and two and revenge games.
And Stefan Diggs is a very prideful guy. But I
will say that he is not one of those guys who,
as people try to say that he was a prima donna, right,
he was a diva. Everyone wants to win. You said
it earlier in the program, that you.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Want to win. He is one of those guys. So
hopefully he gets that win, he gets this former team.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, you know, I kind of predicted a Houston Texans
regression this season. We have seen them come back to
earth a little bit. Although Nico Collins is balling out
there right now for Houston likes. What he's doing is
just embarrassingly good for them. An embarrassing dB so sick. Yeah,
I was speaking of wide receivers that have been traded before.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Trade me wants shame on you, trade me, Trice, Shame
on me.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's the mindset that apparently has prompt a Dolphins wide
receiver Tyreek Hill to say all the right things most
of the time about his current situation.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
He knows if he's traded a second time, he'll.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Be regarded as the problem, so he's trying hard to
make it look like he's not currently disgruntled, even if
he possibly is. On Monday night, frustration from the moment
took over. He tried to downplay it on Wednesday. But
if he said what he said today on Monday night
instead of ducking out on reporters after the ugly loss
of the Titans, his motivation, not frustration, and explanation probably
would have been a little bit more believable. He also
said today he does not want to be traded back
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to the team that traded him to Miami or anywhere else,
and to top it off, sees the team's mostly empty
glasses half full. We talk about law On injured reserve
for at least two more games, and with Skyler Thompson injured, Tyler.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Hutley is the guy and he'll believes in him. He'll
told reporters Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Snoop's awesome for him to be here for two weeks
and for him to be prepared the way he's prepared
for Monday night game is a book that's trending upward.
Our offense is complicated. There's many motions, words and all that.
For him to get it down in a week or so,
it's tremendous. I can already tell by him stepping in
the huddle he's confident. He's ready to play. Carl not
even looking at it, so he's ready to roll. I'm
sure if that means there's a significant difference between Monday
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Night against.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
The Titans and Sunday against the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Hill had similarly confident remarks to Laura Rutledge of ESPN
before Monday Night's a game, and we know how that
worked out. So we'll say if he goes one for two, regardless,
Dolphins can't get it together on a short week road game,
the frustrations or motivation could boil over.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I when I saw him on the sideline. Did you
see the incident on the Monday.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Night football game where he was screaming on the sideline?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We see it, okay, with lookd at it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
To me it felt like a guy's just frustrated. He
wants to win.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
We talked about Stefan Jays just wanting to win, so
we all know Tyreek Hill wants to win.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
He's competitive, he's a fiery guy.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I didn't think too much you do it, but then
it kind of blew up on Sports Center and all
this kind of stuff when they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Him, you know, yelling on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Everybody yells on the sidelines, they catch it on camera,
it becomes a talking point for media.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I didn't think it was that big a deal.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
And your experience as a player, how many times was
yelling on the sidelines detrimental to the team.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Not that many times, especially playing for Bill Parcells who
got it all the time. And listen, I had an
outburst on my own when I talked about on the
show where I threw my helmet and turned over.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
We gave ready table on the guy. So it happens.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We watched as Bill O'Brien and Tom Brady both screamed
at each other, and that's kind of what happens. Like
big brother, little brother, we have issues tooth and tongue
ball out.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Well, we both need each other.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So this is one of these.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Cases of Tyreek Hill being frustrated because he's used to
having explosive games and he can't really do that because.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Tua is not the guy throwing him the ball.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I don't look at this as a particularly bad thing.
I know people always wring their hands over these altercations.
I didn't look as a bad thing. I thought it
was a competitive thing. I thought he was trying to
fire him up. I believed his you know, motivation, nut
frustration things. So we'll see, we'll see how it goes
against the Patriots, a bit of a weaker team. Titans
were a bit of a weaker team though, and they
couldn't get it done there.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
We'll see, we shall see what happens.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
We see better, guys. Sam's number three tomorrow this Bbrouco's
Country Night.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Can't wait.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Dear Lord, baby Jesus, I'm busying all bright and I'm
better than you.