10-03-25 Hour 3 of Broncos Country Tonight

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
in the future, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
We've just got to shave him into it.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I wouldn't hold your breath, but I can guarantee there
will be at least one new episode at some point
in my lifetime.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
He has promised us, I will hunt you. I will
hunt you down. I will haunt you. You'll be ninety
years old, my ghost will be visiting. Where's that new episode?
David smith Or said five six, six, nine zeros and
text line.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You guys will get involve the conversation.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
We get these great sit downs, our own Dave Logan
gets to sit down with Sean Payton break down on
the play as his coaches do, and we also love
bringing those to you. This week's sit down with David,
Sean Pate is breaking down the JK sixteen yard run
against the Engles.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Now RJ Harvey the outside of two left resets to
the left of Knicks. He catches wide open swing pass
walks into the end zone. The easiest touchdown of the
early season. Knicks to Harvey touchdown, Denver touchdown pass of
twelve yards boone Nicks to RJ.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Harvey.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
So, talk a little bit about RJ. Harvey's first touchdown.
You line him up out wide initially and then brought
him back.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
In the Yeah, it's it's a play where we kind
of bring him back in get a man's zone read.
And if you when you watch it really closely, they're
unsettled a little bit because we're getting.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
To the line of scrimmage. There's some communication.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
He gets back into the backfield and the linebacker responsible
for him.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Comes off the edge.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
They're still talking and they dropped the coverage and so
the tempo I think helped us there. In other words,
you know, we were quick. RJ did a really good job.
We didn't card that look all week, you know. In
other words, they just dropped the averaging part of that
was the shift in the tempo.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Let me ask you, just calling the game, my eyes
told me that RJ kind of settled in a little
bit I mean, yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I think one of the things we yeah, one hundred percent,
and we tried to instead of constantly tagging on and
off with both those players, we tried to give them
series a couple series, and I think from a running
back perspective, they get into a flow. Now there's certain
plays specific for JK or RJ. And that's easy, but

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different than earlier in the year. We tried to let them,
you know, JK took the first two series, then let's
get RJ going.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
And so they, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Were able to get in a groove if you will,
and get some rhythm going. And I think you saw
it benefit both guys.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Last thought, and I've made the comment during the last
game the broadcast that JK. Dobbins is just a really
patient that we're in running back, and I want to
know if you think maybe some of that rubs off
a little bit on r J.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
One of the things it's interesting sometimes when you sign
a free agent, you know, you know the player you're getting.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
In other words, I watched.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
The film I see Jake, and then this happened to
me with the Mario Davis, the linebacker in New Orleans.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
You know, we signed him later in free.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Agency, and we thought we had a good idea of
now he became a much better player, but then all
the other things we weren't expecting. The leadership and JK
I think I've seen that, like if we were voting
on captains right now.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
He joined us late, but he's.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Got that leadership skill set that I think is really
good for a young running back room.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
When you look at the room and.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Normally you get a lot of sort of the juice
guys on defense and maybe not quite as many on offense, but.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
He's he is definitely one of those guys. And there's
you know, as a head coach, you love having those
guys that that are fighters and that will you know,
for a period and there's a run maybe doesn't go
the right, he'll say, run it again, you know, and yeah,
you love it.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yep, Sean, thanks, thank you.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So that wasn't the JK. Dobbins sixteen yard run. But
here's Dave's call of that sixteen yard run.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Dobbins the loan back, tight trips left, Mims comes in motion,
they pitch it to Dobbins left side.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Dobbins has the edge.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Here we go fifteen Dobbins pushed out of bounds as
he got to the fifteen with a big run. That's
Jordan Battle. He's got to be close to one hundred
right there. That's a gain of sixteen and he's over
one hundred yards. That breaks a streak of thirty seven
straight games, the longest active streak in the NFL, and
one that you don't really want of the Broncos without

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a hundred yard rusher in a single game.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, I guess we got a two for there as
we the RJ. Harvey play and then also the JK.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Dobbinson.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I got the email earlier today like here's the plan
for the coaches quarter.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
As soon as I hear that, I'm like, that's not
the play.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh well those are always fun though.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
It's Sean Page David Log can get to sit down
next to each other and go over it as the
coach's corner, as coaches do. We got to college football
coming up this weekend. See you taking on TCU down
there in TCU. I got a pair of edge rushers
down there at TCUH are pretty good. What do you
think about What do you think about ColorOS chances this weekend?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I think their chance is going to be really tough.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
This is a team that is trying to I guess
re establish winning ways.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
They have somewhat figured out for now.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
You know their quarterback situation with Kate and Sultz, And
to me, there was a number of things that led
to the team losing last week. It wasn't just you
know Cat and saltzs that some try to make it
appeer and coach Prom said it earlier this week. Man
he looked for kids who want to compete, but also
at the position that he played, which is the corner position.

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He wants guys who want to compete, and they have
not been that great in the back in you lose
a guy like Travis Hunter that affects what you can
do defensively, and now teams instead of attacking just one
side of the field, the whole field is open for
them to attack. And it's it's similar. It's crazy because

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for two years in a row, there's some parallels between
the Denver Broncos and the CU Buffs, right Uh, the
ability to run the ball and stick with the run.
And then also untimely penalties. Untimely penalties just keep killing SeeU.
Either it's extending drives or it's killing drives for them,
where you know the quarterback is under duress. And you

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know last week you saw Kayden Saltiers try to lose
ground the game ground but end up losing a lot
of yards. So if they can overcome those shortcoming, they're
having an opportunity. But you know, uh, it's gonna be
tough for them at TCU for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Couple of years ago, Yeah, they.

Speaker 7 (07:01):
Had Travis Hunter toured there.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
A little bit different now.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
One of the things that's that's been interesting is that
you look at the offensive line, so that the stats
out there and they're saying that Caten Saltiers as some
of the best, are the most time to throw in
college football. The offensive line, you know, may have more
or less been solved, and that gone unnoticed because you
have quarterbacks that are trying to buy time, uh or

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use their legs in addition to that, and you know,
there was somebody put out that the offensive line wasn't
really the problem last year with Chador hanging on the
ball too low and trying to make plays.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Some guys social media. E really I remember who was Yeah,
that's right, some guy. Yeah I wouldn't Yeah, I don't
even don't even validate it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You know, it does appear that they put a lot
of effort into that. It does appear to be paying
off a little bit. Kden Salter, Now he's the guy.
You know, what what is it going to take for
this team to I don't think they're going to make
the playoffs, but what is he going to take for
this team to get itself ranked by the end.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Of the year.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
Just going out there and just playing hard, just being consistent,
and when I say being consistent, making the right choices
as players. No player wants to put himself or seem
in a such a bad situation by a penalty, as
I said before, but you have to play smart. This
is a CU team that is not as talented as

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they were a year ago. So because of that, you
can't have multiple players having breakdowns, you know, breakdowns and coverage,
not tackling, not playing your assignment, and then offensively, you know,
allowing penetration on your quarterback who's now trying to find
an open receiver. And no, by the way, when we
look at the CU roster, do they have talent on

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the roster? Yes, they do. Do they have superior talent, No,
they don't. That talent is still learning how to grow
and how to develop. And this has been the issue
from the beginning of the season with to see you buffs.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
How do you do?

Speaker 7 (09:04):
How do they find a way to win as a
team knowing as though you don't have as many elite
players on either side of the ball as you had
a year ago.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, and that's and that's gonna be the thing.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
How do you compensate for the fact that that you
don't have those those top top tier players. Are we
gonna see Are we gonna finally see the emergence and
consistency of a Marion Miller Or is this just this kid,
just one of these guys who has some flashes but
can't seem put it all together.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yeah, it seems like that for right now, Ben that
he is a very talented young man. When you look
at him, he fits the role and he looks like
an NFL wide receiver, but he doesn't always play like
an NFL wide receiver. And that's that's one of the
things that can be frustrating to a coach. Is obviously

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frustrating for a coach prime because he's trying to find
multiple ways to motivate his guys to go out there
and play. But this is a difficulty being a former player,
but more importantly, being a Hall of Famer and hoping
that the players approach the game the same way that
you approach because when you look across that roster, you know,

(10:11):
if I'm from as far as the coaching staff, they
have a number of coaches with NFL experience and Hall
of famers, But it's hard to get kids to play
with the same you know, savage mentality that you play with.
And that's the thing that's so frustrating. Yeah, and I
think that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I mean, that's that's the difficult thing of conveying to guys.
You take guys with your athletic traits. Uh, you look
back at John Away right, drafting quarterbacks. You take guys
with your athletic trades, assuming that they have the same
mental makeup, and a lot of times they don't.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Uh, that's that's the difference between a John Alway and
a pack To Lynch right.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know, big tall guy, hyper athletic with a big arm.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
But at the end of the day, if you don't
have that championship mentality, the championship work ethic. Uh, you're
a you know, you'd rather play video games. You're gonna
be a guy that looks like you'd rather play video games.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
And so that's that's kind of the thing I think
that frustrates uh Dion sam Or is that, you know,
you bring a lot of these guys in and you
just kind of operate under the assumption that you've got
that mentality you don't.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
And there was a Lawrence Sapp was on.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
With our friend Roby Bean earlier this week and he
had a quote where he just said, you can't live
soft and play hard.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, hey, there.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Was always the saying when I came in the league,
looked like Tars and play like Jane. And you want
to push your players, push them past a threshold that
even they didn't think that they were capable of reaching.
But this is where this team has to dig deep.
And when you look at once again the Broncos situation
against the Philadelphia Eagles, they're gonna have to dig deep.

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You know, see you going on a road against TCU,
They're gonna have to dig deep because no one's giving
either of those individuals an opportunity to win the ball.
Games this weekend on a row. But this is where
you can steal a game. This is where you can
reclaim some of your confidence and validate your coaches and
validate all the work that you put in by going

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out there and playing, especially when no one's giving you
an opportunity to win a game in the first place.
That's the best thing that you can do because.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
The press is not on you, it's on your opponent.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
So the Broncos can do the same thing this weekend
against the Eagles, and the Buffs can do the same
thing against TCU.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
That's I mean, that's what you hope out of both
of them. Who's got a better shot at winning this
week Denver or cu Oh.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Obviously Denver for sure.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
And the reason that is the case because I mean,
the Broncos defense.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't care what anyone saying.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Anyone can try to argue me down, but the strength
of this Broncos defense for the past couple of years,
especially the last two years, has in doubt, has in
fact been their defense right, And that's what gives the Broncos,
or even when you look at the spread, put them
in the opportunity to win this game because the Broncos

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are looking at their defense. The Eagles are looking at
their defense as well. And I think you said early
in the show that it's going to come down to
which team it can take advantage of the turnovers.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
And that I think applies for both of those games,
but specifically for the Broncos, that that game figures to
be a lot tighter than the TCU game.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I mean, you know, so you can go out there
and win it, but on paper, it looks like that
Broncos Eagles game and you got two slower pace of play,
tight teams, two teams that rely on defense. That figures
to be one of those tight, you know, field goal
trade type games.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
With all said and done so, but.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Here's the other thing about the Eagles that they feel
really confident in. They feel as though their defense can
show up and stop and force turnovers. But more importantly,
they're special teams. Their special teams have shown that they
can create a short feel, but they can also score
points as well. That is something that the Broncos have

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to be thinking about going into games. And sometimes when
you face a team from a special team standpoint knowing
as though that they have blought kicks it makes you
a little nervous. It's sort of like when that play
for the Broncos, and I was a personal protector. That's
usually the guy that's right behind the center, like a quarterback,
calling out the special team set, getting everyone you know

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right from a blocking standpoint. But I too was a
wing playing tackle, and when the Baltimore Ravens went defense day,
you know who was out there, Ed Reed ed Reeve
was pigeontoed, so it made it really easy for him
to do the up and under. So you had to
make sure your kickslide was on point and you kept

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him in front of you. And the one thing you
wanted him to do to run wide, yeah, not not
run wide and then come back inside.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, so don't let him inside, just reroude him outside.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
But just the thought of knowing that's kind of Ed
Reid and he's blocked multiple punts before that was something
that was on your mind. I'm sure the Broncos will
be concentrated.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
On that on Sunday. Yeah, I'm a little concerned.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You know, last thing I want to do is put
a ball on this Broncos and Eagles thing. I am
concerned about that into your offensive lot of the Broncos,
and this is going to be you know, they had
some guys that they were up against. It were fairly
strong week one there with the Titans along that line.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
You saw that against the.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Chargers, less so against the Bengals, less so against the Colts.
But you did see it. You did see it against
the Chargers and the Titans. And this is probably the
strongest that you've been up against of that bunch. So
that's something I think that you know, Luke Wattenberg, if
he's gonna shake off the you know the the whispers
that are out there about his performance, this is the
week to come in there and keep Bo clean from

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the inside against probably your toughest the sign end of
the year.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
Well, he's gonna have to go full a tail the
swift on this one. It shaped this one off, I
mean seriously, because you don't need your center having any
kind of disruptions because on the roll, getting everyone set,
calling out protections and also being able to help Bo
mix out with the quarterback center exchange. That's the thing,

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because you don't want to think about I have to
black Javen Carter, Jordan Davis and I'm not getting the
ball adequately to boat nikes and now there's a fumble.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You don't want to do that either. Yeah, so we
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Speaker 6 (16:23):
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Speaker 2 (16:23):
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Speaker 3 (16:26):
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Speaker 6 (16:40):
Number one.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
After the Jets Monday Night Lost, Sauce Gardner said, I
just feel like, I don't know if this is wrong
to say. I think I get called for more stuff
just based on us not winning. I watched these winning
programs and there can be some egregious things and it
don't get called. Letting the players play. We don't win,
we don't get the calls you get, and we get

(17:01):
calls we probably shouldn't get called for. Do you think
there's any truth to Sauce Gardner's complaints about the refts
officiating winning and losing teams differently. And do you think
Gardner's uptick and penalties as the result of such a conspiracy,
which we know Nick Ferguson loves or the NFL keen
in on his physical style of play.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I don't believe there's conspiracy here.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think that you know, all teams get called what
they get called, and referees get graded and fired.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Honestly, now if they you.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Know, they don't make the appropriate calls. I think Sauce
has always been a little grabby, and I think that
reputation has got referees focused in on it.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
So I don't think it's a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I just think people focus in on you get a reputation,
people focus.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
In on stuff, ask kor In Jackson.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah, that was a little sauce from Sauce Gardener, because
once again he is a little grabby, as been said.
I remember what it was two three years ago when
they played Denver Broncos and he pulled calling sudden by
the nape of his neck on his jersey and they
didn't even call it. Even the guy on the broncast

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was like, oh, well, Sau's Gardner. That's how great he
is of a cover. And I'm just like, wait a minute,
did you not see his hand pull calling down.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
From the back?

Speaker 7 (18:14):
But this is Sauce kind of being victimized by his
own efforts.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Do you think that there are any like Michael Jordan
rules or you know how Lebron James usually gets the
benefit of the doubt on a whistle? Do you think
there are some players in the NFL that get those
beneficial calls?

Speaker 7 (18:31):
Of course you've earned the right right like you you
have the defensive player of the year. You're the defensive
player of the year for a reason. Your resume shows it.
So even if it's a ticky tacky, as long as
it wasn't too egregious.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
You let us lie.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well, we've certainly seen little flop mahomes get a don't
you just start?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Uh huh?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well, good news for the Broncos, bad news for the Chargers.
Star offensive tackle Joe Alt has and ruled out for
the Chargers after suffering a sprained ankle against the Giants.
How long do you think the Chargers will be without
both star offensive tackles and could this put the Bolts
offense in a tail spin after they struggled against the
aforementioned Giants.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, I don't think I'll put them in a tail span.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Harball's too with a coach, But man, that offensive line
is pretty rag tag at this point. They're gonna be
without them for the next four to six weeks. I mean,
slater stuff of the year, but they're out without Joe Alt.
I mean it's going to be next year before they
realize that line and its full potential.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
All Like Ben, I think this is a major concern
because when you are playing with makeshift pieces, now you're
playing with guys who maybe second to third your guard
or your tackle, I mean key positions that you need
to keep your quarterback up right. It makes things really difficult.
And what the Giants did. They expose the weak depth
of the charges. So if they don't find a way

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to remedy it by changing the scheme, Herbert could.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Be in trouble.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
What's the narrative around Justin Herbert if they don't win
a playoff game this year, Well, I think it depends.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
On how you know.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
If they're getting blown up on the line of scrimmage,
I mean it's the same would be the same thing
with Joe Burrow, He'll behind that line. You know, Joe
Burrow is still a great quarterback. They just failed him
with the offensive line. I think it'd be the same
thing with Justin Herbert would.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Be like the Shaker, it ain't my fault, it ain't
my fault. Yes, three, that got me good.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Jayden Daniels, as we mentioned earlier, will make his return
for the Washington Washington Commanders this week.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
How close to one percent.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Do you think Jayden Daniels will be for Washington's matchup
with the Chargers and who will win the duel between
Cliff Kingsbury and Jesse Minter well.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Man.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's tough. I think.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Uh, Jayden's probably not one hundred percent, but he's a
hundred percent at this point in the season. He's good
enough to get back out there. It goes back to
the are you hurt or you injured? As far as
the rest of it goes. I mean, I'm gonna put
my money on the Chargers defense just because it's that good.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
No, I'm gonna put my money on the Commanders because
once again, we're looking at matchups, we're looking at personnel,
and even though the charges are showing that they have
the ability to get out the passer. You got Jane
Dames coming back, and he got Deebo Scary Terry Man.
They have a lot of weapons in Washington, so I
look for Cliff Kingsburgy to find a way to get
those guys involved.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, I'm looking for a big game from the Commanders too.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
But as Ben said earlier this week, I've been wrong
before and I'll be wrong again on are both of
these coaches, Cliff Kingsbury and Jesse mentor head coaches next
year in the NFL?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Uh Men, Sure, yes, Clingsbury probably not, Cliff.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Probably if he doesn't get an NFL job to probably
get a head coaching job in college football.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Four fellow QB from the twenty twenty four class JJ
McCarthy was ruled out for the Minnesota Vikings. We'll get
Carson Wentz once again overseas. When do you think we
will see McCarthy make his return? And how good or
what would Wentz have to do to extend JJ's time
on the bench.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
A you got to come out play well.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Obviously you gotta get wins, but you got to come
out not turn the ball over.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Be a credit to the team, be the reason.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
That they're score ring, not just somebody getting dragged along
for the ride. You know, you can't have the run game,
come out, go for twenty yards Carson Wentz's claiming the
dub You know that kind of thing, you know, two
hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns, no turnovers, playing clean,
not taking sacks, and lead your team to victory.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Look the next four games for the Vikings, the Eagles,
the Chargers, the Ravens, and the Lions. If you can
get through that slate right, maybe three and one, and you,
like Ben said, you haven't turned the ball over and
the offense is still functioning the way they're functioning against
the Pittsburgh Steelers, then I believe that there's an argument
to be made that maybe you need to say J. J.

(22:49):
McCarthy just a little longer.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
How long is he supposed to be out with the injury.
He's supposed to be out another couple of weeks. I
think it's week six or seventy supposed to be back.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
And did you see anything from him? I mean, personally,
I didn't see much from him in the first couple
of weeks of the season that I thought, Okay, we've
got to go back to this guy as soon as
he's healthy.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, but but Ben missing this earlier.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
When you go and buy get a guy that early
in the draft, you gotta find a way to get
them in the game.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, I mean they're gonna find ways to do that.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
You know, they're not they're not putting the development at
JJ McCarthy on hold for Carson Wentz. You know, it's
a little bit different if it's you know, if it's
somebody like Sam Darnold or Baker or Gino's having a
career resurches, that's one thing. But Carson Wentz already in
his thirties, and I it's I don't see that happening.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Five nfl dot Com listed linebacker is the Broncos' biggest
need to target in the trade market before the deadline.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Of course, we know about.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Alex singleton struggles, and since I'm reading Zach Seeger six pack,
he is.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
On the wrong side of thirty and we've.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Got dra Greenlaw out hurt. Still, do you think we'll
see the Broncos make any additions before this year's trade deadline?

Speaker 1 (24:02):
And who could we see them target. I don't believe
they'll make any trades. I don't think they're gonna be
buyers even if they are out front there, unless there's
an injury between now and then.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I can't see them being buyers on anything.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
What was the other part of the questions, Well, if
they're not buyers, the second part of the question doesn't
really matter to you, because who could we see them
target now?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, they would do either it have to be an injury,
I think.

Speaker 7 (24:32):
Well, for me, it all depends on where the Broncos
are at that time, by the trade deadline, the position
where hey, you know the team is trending in the
direction of winning the division and the seating looks like
it is going to be pretty decent for them, then
of course you kind of consider it. What particular guy
this point, I'm not really sure, but I do know

(24:53):
they need more depth at that particular position for sure.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Six and you knew Secrets was gonna squeeze this question.
And of course, the New York Jets are set to
play hosts this week to the Dallas Cowboys and their
woeful defense. Well, justin Field's touchdown lead over Russell Wilson
become insurmountable this week or will Russ still have a
glimmer of hope.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well, I hate the Jets need to be worried about
getting wins before they need to be worried about anything else.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
As for the rest of it, I mean, you know,
if Russ isn't playing and Justin is, that puts Justin
in line to potentially score a few touchdowns. The Jets
of course lost Braylan Allen for at least for a
few weeks already, so it's going to be interesting to
see who steps up in those shoes I've been I
mean to Zach Seagers credit Justin Fields does suck out loud?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I think that's three times, that might be four to
be uh exact.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Yes, So of course with this thing between Van and secrets,
he's going to try to squeeze that in for sure.
For me, I'll say this about the Fields, I don't
think Phil's is the worst quarterback we've ever seen to
take snaps from on the center, but you have to
have a unique coordinator that is kind of focused on

(26:16):
trying to make him look good and highlighted. But I mean,
isn't that the goal of every OC to do that
same very thing. But we know a lot of quarterbacks
will get drafted. They don't find themselves in this situation,
and they don't have a long runway where you give
them time to develop.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So it's kind of unfortunate.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
But I think what Phil's is doing with the Jets,
especially looking at that Miami game and the loss, He's
still finding ways to make plays.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
As far as I'm concerned, justin fields is the Reggie
Ball of the NFL.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Whoa man hold on now? Reggie Ball? George Steate guy?
You know, hey, you know, hey, whoa wol How you
have a career forty five percent completion percentage? You got
Calvin Johnson the throw to in college? Hey man? Sometimes
it's it's difficult.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
I feel like if you just Johnson every single play,
that's what I'm saying, you would have a higher completion percentage.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You can't go to him on every single play.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
Megatron, yes, but even Megatron had obvious prime.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
He had to continue what They didn't have Stephen Hill
on that thing too. Like he wasn't he like a
freshman that year?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, Like they had like three guys there.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
At Stephen Hill hadn't you know, become the wide receiver
that he was. That kind of got him drafted, right,
He was a little inconsistent with his forty would help
him him to get drafted. But Megatron is one of one. Right,
you can only go to that well so much. But
I understand what you guys are pointing out. Just throw

(27:44):
it up to him and let something happen. Now, if
I'm not mistaken, I think both Nick's father might have
been with with Georgia Tech yellow jack Is during that time.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
It might have been. I just know that, uh uh
you had that.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
That's like three guys that all went on to play
receiver in the NFL and a quarterback with a career
completion percent.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
Once again, it's it's it's Megasron is one of one.
And when like there were times where Reggie Ball was
kind of like on the run. Now, could he have
made some better decisions at times? Absolutely right, But I
mean it was very tough at that time for Reggie
Ball because we're talking about decision making, the level of pressure,

(28:29):
you know, But hey, it worked out the way that
he did. One of the guys went on to be
a Hall of Fame type wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
That he did. That he did.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I just uh, yeah, Reggie Ball was one of those
all time like and it had to be worse for
you as a lot Georgia type back then, and I'm
just sitting like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, really listen, man, sometimes this guy makes Tim Tebow
look like Joe Montana. I don't thinking hold on, Ben,
I don't think it was that bad.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
There you go, by the way, Patrick Nicks, was that
Georgia techt Calvin Johnson? Yes, Yes, going back to Russ
real quick though, because I still love the dude off
the field, especially just everything he did in the community
while he was here in Denver. Do you think this
is the end for him? You think he retires after
this year?

Speaker 6 (29:21):
I mean it.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Depends on who will have him, obviously. I mean he's
gonna go.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I mean the last two places, the last two places
he's gone, he's kind of been, at least in a
fight for the starting quarterback position. I think now the
best he can ask for is a backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm not sure Pittsburgh should have got rid of it.
I mean he was he was alright in Pittsburgh last year.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
George pickup passes.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, I I you know, if if Pat Fryerman can
hang on the ball, you know, there's always gonna be
people looking for a bridge guy, and you know, worst
case scenario, he can he can sort of be that
if New Orleans goes to the draft and they don't
want to keep Ratler, they trade Ratler away and they
go to the draft, and maybe your Russy and a
sack guy you can kind of operate with killing more

(30:03):
wants to day.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Okay, So it goes back to this.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
If Russ wants to play, there could be an opportunity
for him, but not as a starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
How many backup quarterbacks have we've seen in this league?

Speaker 7 (30:18):
Right, extend their career and oh, by the way, start
against injured You come in for a couple of games
that can be Russ And like you said to yourself, Grant,
who can be a better mentor for young quarterbacks than
a guy like Russell Wilson?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, who would actually give up his wise wisdom, you know,
unlike other aging quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
Right, I see what you did there, Oh, sucker push.
But yes, but that's kind of one of those things
in the league that I think some teams get wrong
because they try to go with a youth movement and
try to move away from veteran players across the board,

(30:58):
and then you leadership within that locker room guys who
don't know how to win, guys who don't know how
to overcome adversity. So I think it behooves teams, and
you can't do you can't have a team just full
of totally full of veterans, but a nice mixture of
guys and a guy the quarterback position who can tell
you about the highs and the lows of the game,

(31:19):
the things that do on and off the field. I
think Russ will make a great backup quarterback and a
mentor for any quarterback.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
Yeah, I think Sony also, you know, one of the
things that I complained about, but one of the things
that he can be a good influence on is that
that sort of positivity that he always has, you know,
about everything.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I wanted to see him get mad.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I want to see frustration, disappointment when you're losing those
kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
He doesn't.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's not the way he operates, and that could be
good for a mentor for a young, you know, young
quarterback like that, I think.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
So, yeah, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
Okay, let me ask this question, because I saw this
here when Russ was here. Why is it that there's
this idea that as a player, especially at that position,
they want to see. I mean, you want to sew
a little fire, but do you have to get like
irate and mad and screaming?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yelle? Do you have to do that?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I mean, I like to see it in my quarterback
personally Rusk fired up from time to time.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, but okay, well to find that, like, I mean, he.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Like next year, I was right back at Sean Payton's
face and says, I don't think I don't agree with
I don't know what he says, but he doesn't agree
with him, and he lets him know.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, I mean, I just I wanted to see someone
who was disappointed that. I want to see the frustration
that something didn't work out. I just want to see
that spill over for a second. Like, Okay, the guy's
dial that he cares about this, he cares that this
isn't working, you know, and and that to me, that's
a mechanism that you do that maybe he had another
way down on the sidel and that we can't see
you know of it. But I remember what was it

(32:51):
Mike Purcell getting up in his face, uh Russ's face
when when there was something going on.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think so Christmas.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, Russ just kind of blowing it off, and you're
and you're sitting there like, I mean, these dudes are
trying to tell you they want to see something from you.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know, you're the leader. They want to see a
certain thing from you, and they're not seeing.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
Yeah, but there's multiple ways to lead. Yes, you don't
have to yell and scream. Some guys are that way.
But it was obvious that Russ wasn't that guy.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Guy.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
Now, maybe Tom Brady was definitely that guy. If you
look at Peyton, Peyton Manning being that guy. Drew Brees
seemed like he could be that guy but probably wasn't.
And Philip Rivers had a very unique way of swearing
at you that you may even just laugh at him.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh man, it's been a good week, Grant, Why don't
you take us home with the best of the.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Week on BC Team. You don't go commanding another guy's fatigue.
I got him.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Quentin Johnson had dropped more balls than a HERNI a specialist.
You just dropped your pants right away and then kind
of shut down the tarways was a mistake.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
At hindsight, Well, he's gonna have to go full tail
the swift from That's Gonna shake this one off.