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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's not the wet blankets. Benjamin Albright, he's off for

(00:02):
a concert. Grant Smith filling in the shot from afar.
That voice you hear there, the Hall of Famer Steve Atwater,
Nick Ferguson, also in studio.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
How are you guys?

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Great, doing great? How you doing, Gene? Is that a Wyoming.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Sweater you have on a lot of people think that
it is not Wyoming. It is the Western Store in
Steamboat Springs, FM Light and Suns.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Really, you've never been there, very cool place.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
And by first, when I first walked in, I thought
it was one of those sweaters with a very large
polo sign on it, and I just kind of looked
and I was like, that's as a cowboy and the
Bucking Broncos. So I'm like, oh, that's Wyoming.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
It does look just like the Wyoming logo.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
But I have no affiliation to Wyoming and they pretty
much suck this year, so not rooting for that.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, the sweatshirt is dope.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's dope.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'll show you the back when I'm not also running
the board and hosting the show.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
But it's a pleasure to be in here with you.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Let me say this, because not too many people know
the job that you do, and they only hear like
Dave and Ryan, they hear Ben and myself. But in
order for the show to take place and just kind
of go well without falling off the rails, it's because
of guys like you. You do a great job and

(01:17):
seldom do you get the validation that you deserve. So
I want to be the first person to tell you
on open airways, man, the first person tell them, well,
did you tell them?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
What do you say? He does?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Tell me the time and come from Steve at one.
That's high praise, But Nick I did. I truly appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
One hell of a job man, and I commend you
for trying to run the boards and host the show
at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I just want to give you some problem.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Trying to do it smoothly than not tonight. You guys
make it easier and someone else who did their job.
On Sunday, the Broncos getting the big win yesding Super
Bowl champ Philadelphia Eagles and phil big comeback win in
the fourth quarter. Bow Knicks nine of ten with one
hundred and twenty seven yards and a touchdown in the
fourth quarter, Steve, what were your thoughts on it?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know what?

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Early on, I was like, man, we were okay, and
then the Eagles started pulling away, pulling away, penalties cropping up,
popping up again, like, oh no, no, no, no penalties.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Going into the fourth quarter, I was worried.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I was to I'm not going till I'm not gonna
give the kids with that that game going into.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
The fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
But we had kind of helped them down and you know,
they really didn't. They weren't that far away, but our
office just hadn't been clicking. R J he been he'd
been doing his thing, uh JK, both of them, one
of those guys doing their.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Thing, but they hadn't put points on the board.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
And uh, it was nice to see it coming together
in the fourth quarter and man, defense balled out again.
Offense man, both knicks doing this thing, running game like
they were in sync in that game.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That was a game to really get the momentum going. Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It was awesome to see a big fourth quarter comeback
and like to have all year, Nick, the defense keeping
us in the game until the offense can get it
go on that mcguiver defense.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, it is I'm glad that you said.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I hope Bryan Edwards is in his car right now
so he can hear you actually say it, because he
doesn't want to admit it.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Now.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
We were at burn Down on Sunday and my high profit.
He was there and I kept bringing up you know mcgiver,
and he was just like, well, he doesn't want to
call the defense mcgivers.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I said, well, you can call him whatever you want to.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
You called him batman, you call him dark to knight,
but call him something because.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
They're always they're always showing up.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, and for me it was like kaboom, guess who
stepped in the room. Because this defense continues to show
up and I applaud every single guy on the defensive unit.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Not to take.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Anything away from the offensive guys.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
They did what they needed to do, but consistently this
defense continues to step up. And it bothers me because
I play defense that I don't hear enough being said
around town about the defense.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Once against the because I know that it's one of
the reasons I can because I know not no one's
gonna say anything about It's gonna be about the officeer
coordinator head coach in the quarterback. I get it, that's
how the NFL is built. But I'm just saying we
can't just kind of watch the greatness that's taken place
in front of us and not admire it because when

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we watch I don't know about for you guys, but
watching Nick Benito's transition from when he first got here
to the player he is now, you would think, because
we've seen it before, when gods get the bag, what
they do, they stop playing, But now he's playing, it's like, yes,
it's his level of intensity has risen.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
And to me, you can see it in acting everyone
on the defense.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
On pace for twenty four sacks this year. Boy seven
sacks for the first five games. I can't even remember
the amount of pressures he has, but it's unreal. I
mean this, this Broncos defense is just living up to
the hype. Like we were worried about it. I think
at least I was at the beginning of the year.
But they have come together and you know, for all
the hate that Riley Moss is going, I thought, I

(05:24):
thought he played great in the second half.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
He did. Yeah, and everyone's got to know that with
pH two and the team where they're going to go yep,
you know they're going to go his way. But he's
holding his own, man, He's holding his own. He's a
very good cornerback. He works hard, he knows what's going on,
and I love his competitiveness, man, I love it.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I love it too, man.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
And you know he's he's in a tough situation, like
you said, Steve, but these last two weeks, he's going
up against two of the best receivers in the games,
especially the two best number twos in the league with
t Higgins and Devonte Smith, and he's holding his own.
He had that one big mistake on third and seventeen,
which I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on that,
because it seemed like he was just playing the wrong coverage.

(06:06):
I don't know why you come up and press on
a third and seventeen play. But other than that, I mean,
you didn't hear his name get called in the second
half because they weren't being able to get any get
anything on him.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Yeah, and in it is to him the D line
and the rushers, man, that did a great job of
containing Jalen Hurts and keeping them, keeping them contained and
also putting fresh up the middle. The D line they
did a fantastic job too, you know. And I think
it all goals hand in hand. You know, the secondary

(06:40):
does well. Guess what, oh D line they did well too.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
And this, once again, this is why I feel a
little upset because we're not hearing more about the defense,
and it's it's the small things that you do and
what you're talking about with the pass rush, I mean,
keeping a guy like Jalen Hurts kind of contained. And
I don't know about you, but I see to push
once in the game once, not once in the game,

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and that's because they were never in a position to
have someone of a touch push. But also look out, well,
the defense is playing inside the red zone.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Teams may move the ball down.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
The field, but once you get into the high red zone,
it's kind of like shut down city, right. And I
never liked the negative narratives about Roley Moss, you know,
because I always fell as a defensive guy. Riley was
always in phase. That means that he's in the guy's
hip pocket. And there were two plays against the I

(07:34):
think it was the Chargers in Justin Herbert, two perfect
throws beat better coverage.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's going to happen. It's going to happen in this league.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
But like you said, Steve, he's never wavered, he's never
turned it down, he's never looked as though the game
was too big for him.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
And in that game.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Against Philly on Sunday, there were two Iowa former Iowa
Hawkey's corners.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
On the field.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
It was Roley Moss for the different Broncos and Kuba
Degen for the Philadelphia Eagles. And that says a lot
about their IWOULD program being able to produce corners.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Albeit and you said, you look at him, they're not.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Are They the only two white starting quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
In the league, right, That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
It's crazy because the last one I know of when
I first came in the league, it was Jason Seahaorn. Yeah,
and it had been another, you know, white corner. But
those two dudes are balling and they made they should
make every kid proud, whether you white or black. But
the whole idea, they should make everyone proud because those
two guys continue to ball out.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I agree, man, And that seemed like in all
three phases of the game the Broncos. You know, it
wasn't pretty in those first three quarters, but they were
holding their own, they had a lead in time of possession,
and it just seemed like it wasn't quite clicking when
they needed it to to get in the end zone.
But when I was working the game on Sunday, I
thought a huge moment early on in the game was
when the Broncos defense. You mentioned the red zone defense.

(08:58):
So far this year, the Eagles were perfect in the
red zone going into that game, and that first drive
when they held them to a field goal, I think
they realized, like, hey, this isn't going to be easy
for us today, Like this Broncos defense is legit, and
that kind of like we said at the very beginning
of the show, it kept them in the game throughout
the whole time until that offense could get rolling in
the second half.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, and you know they came out Philly. Their first
drive had to punt. Second drive, it went down and
they do a second drive here. I think that was
a field goal drive, yep. And first quarter that's it.
That's all they got two drives, yep. And like I said,
we controlled time of possession. That was definitely in our favor.

(09:42):
I think the more you can do that, the more,
the more games you're gonna win.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
So that means once again, I mean something that I
have been talking about for weeks, and it was run
the ball. And Sean Payton actually ran the ball. He
did write a reminder you know, on his cast sheep.
But that's the thing that the Broncos did well. That

(10:07):
Kevin Patullo for the offensive coordinator for the Eagles, they
didn't do And I was I was happy that, say,
he only rushed Sae Kwan six times for thirty yards.
I was like, I don't know what he's doing, but
doing it to keep on doing it.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
But I have to ask you guys this. We were
just talking.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
About Nick Benito and how successful he's been this season
and maybe the sacks he's on pace for it, and
I think you mentioned twenty four. How happy do you think?
And George Payton on the Broncos are known as though
they got that deal done before the season even started.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh man, how much money did they save the organization?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Like Nick Benito is clearly still getting paid. He's getting
his bag. Yeah, but he would have been paid, you know,
easily top five pass rusher money just after the start.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
But it's good that they both negotiated in good faith,
you know, Nick, if he would way, you just never
know when you wait, you know, you make it injured,
you know anything, you know. So I think it was
the perfect deal at the perfect time. It worked out
for both parties. And uh, you know it's not gonna
be broke any time So no, anytime soon. I don't

(11:17):
think Kenada that's generation of wealth right there.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
But you know, watching him play this season, he's playing
very inspired football and that was the first thing that
popped in my mind with every sack that he's getting,
is like, wow, did the Denver Broncos dodge bullet? Because
that was going to cost you so much money. But
it's that forward thinking and trying to get that contract done.
And this is why I took my cap to another

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guy who doesn't normally get a lot of praise, and
that's George Payton and his staff.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
They did the same thing.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
With the contract with PS two right getting that contract done.
Only watched Derek Stingley, Sauce Gardner and the other guys
get paid after that. To know that you have a
top corner defensive player of the year and I'm not
going to say that you got him on the cheat,
but you got him on the law.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, you look at it compared to the other league,
right exactly.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
Every year is going to hire and hire, and if
you can lock guys in and the guys know that,
hey man, look this team appreciates me. Yeah, and that's
not feel Both Nick and PS two are like they
appreciate it. They want to be here and the team
appreciates them, like, hey, we thank you for working with

(12:29):
us to get this these deals done.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
If we would have waited, who knows what would have happened.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
But see, that's the culture.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Every time a new coach comes in, they always talk about,
you know, that coach bringing his culture in. But that's
the coach wre You want to bring in your culture.
You want to breathe because showing as though you're taking
care of your own guys, Courton got a little pay pump, right,
it shows other guys who are on other teams that
are on expiring deals. Come to twenty you know, twenty
twenty six, the Denver Broncos are going to be a destination.

(12:57):
And that's what the thing.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
But the only thing is it used to be the
only thing is it's got to be a fit for
the Broncos too, because there's some people out there that
they deserve to get paid, but if they don't fit
the culture.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
But even with that being said, Steve, even seeing the guys,
certain guys getting paid, and every guy wants to get paid,
I haven't met a person that doesn't want to make
more money. But but but the idea is that you
may be willing to take less money to come join
a team like this because now those playoff opportunities are
there and you get the chance to play for a

(13:32):
good organization but most importantly a good culture.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
That's what But But but that's what I'm saying though, too,
is even if somebody will come here for less, if
you if you're not made of the right stuff, they're
gonna read you out. They're gonna waed you out because
you gotta come in there with a team first attitude.
You can't have that meet me and me I I
attitude here. And that's that's the thing I love about

(13:56):
these guys, man. They're they're a great guy, you know
or not, not a bunch of selfish people looking out
for me, me me, Because.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Those kinds of guys, they'll come up and.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Play one day, the next next game out and I'm
not I don't feel like playing hard, just like you.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Mean a guy by the name of Eddie Nnison. I'm
just talking.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Rob his bike right now. Listen to that, But you
don't have to say anything. I heard the stories about.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
That guy five six, six times zero the Common Spirit
health text line. If you want to weigh in on that, Steve,
you think this was a statement win for the Broncos,
like it seems like the last couple of years. We
had Garrett Bowles on KWA Sports earlier today and he said,
you know that we just we didn't win games like
this in past years. And to win in Philly against
the defending Super Bowl champs, you think this proves to

(14:45):
everyone else in the league, like, hey, the Broncos are
here and they're here to stay. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
And I think it also proved to the guys that, man,
we got the talent, we got the coaching get we got.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Everything right here, and they did it. They actually did
it versus.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Having another letdown or blockfield goal or something happened at
the end in the game. No, we came back and
we beat the defending champions and granted the defending champions.
You know they aren't. They aren't playing great yet. You
know they're they're they were undefeated going into the game.
But it still says something that you can beat a
team those because they win games because of they've been

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together for a while.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
One, they're well coached, and.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
They got got they got good talent on that team.
And when you could go in and beat a team
like that, it says a lot, man, And it does
a lot for your psyche because I'm one of those
guys like who believes that. Like Nick, if you played
against the Chargers, uh and just so, you played against
them four or five times over your career, and man,

(15:54):
every game you had a good game, you got an
interception or you know, you had a couple of big
hits every game when you when you see them on
the schedule, like, oh yeah, I'm about to feast them up.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
But you know what, what else, here's what it also does
for this team because think about what it was before
the Beings game. Because I'm just gonna scratch the Beings
game out. And the reason I'm doing that mentally because
that was already perceived w what.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
I think it was a confidence builder for the offense.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Well, well it was, but you needed a game like
you did you had against Philadelphia. You think about the
two games before that, right, the Broncos defense kept both
the Colts and the Chargers in check. They didn't score
over thirty points. There was an opportunity for the Broncos
to win both of those games. Last second field goals

(16:44):
you lose the game, right, So now you're reeling, you upset,
and now individuals starting to question and doubt their capabilities.
Then you play against a team like Philadelphia, regardless of
how the game started, we talk about how the game finished.
Because heading into that Eagles game, the Broncos had only
scored ten points in the fourth quarter. So, just like

(17:05):
the Eagles were struggling in the fourth quarter, so with
the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
So the Broncos scored eighteen points.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
So for the first time this season, they started slow
but actually finished the game. And it had nothing to
do with the field goal. Nothing to do with the
field goal. So now, like you said, the confidence level
is out of the roof. Right now, they're going over
to London, and how great is it for them that
they win the game against Philadelphia, go over for international

(17:32):
game known as that it's a large abundance of Broncos
fans there, you beat the Jets, come back home to
play the Giants again, another game that Broncos should win.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
We're staring in five and two in the face right now.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
And that's three, that would be three in a row.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
But you lose against the Jets in London and Grantry.
I don't want to put that.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Where I don't even drink.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I don't even drink. I might have.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Just for that on the text line from the seven
to one nine that Broncos win has sent shockwaves through
the whole league.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
From the three oh three, Black, White, Pink or purple.
Name a team that Moss doesn't start on. He's a
CB one on a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Absolutely totally totally agree. He's a player.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, I love Riley Moss. I know what a hard
position to be in, man, Like you said, like to be.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Across from the best cornerback in the league, best cornerback
and a generation, and you know you're getting targeted every game,
Like that's gotta you gotta have a special mindset.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
You wouldn't get that many talkers because they're gonna, they're gonna,
they're gonna spread it around.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
So this is why I've always said and I think
I can. I can say this.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
When I look at Riley Moss, he reminds me of
Darren Williams.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
And the reason I say.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
That is because Darren played opposite Champ. He knew he
was gonna get a lot of targets every single game
and people will catch some passes. But he always played
because he knew and he felt he had confidence in
his ability and I love to attitude that he had.
Here's a guy coming out of Fort Worth, Texas was

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always told that he was.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
A smaller guy.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
And I'm sure Roleie Moss being a guy who's a
white corner, people probably told them, hey, man, you're sure
you don't want to move to safety instead of corner.
But he was just like, no, I want to play corner.
And that's a tough as hell position living on that island,
watching people target you and having the mentality to say, okay,
well someone just called a pass over me and play

(19:38):
Because that pass that Devonte Smith caught over him, that
set Philly up for their for a touchdown, but then
he bounced back from that. There are not too many
players that can do that they just can't. So I
really like this guy's mentality in his makeup.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
We got to hit a break, Steve.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I want to get your thoughts on the two point
conversion and call from Champagne to take the lead in Philadelphia.
Plus we'll look ahead to the Jets matchup, and then
this weekend you're listening to Broncos Country Night on KOA
A fifty A ninety four one FM. Before the break, Steve,
we teased your thoughts on the two point conversion, Sean
Payton's gutsy call to take the lead with seven and

(20:13):
a half minutes left in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
What were your thoughts on the play?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Because when I was.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
In here by myself in the control room on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oh no, I was like, why are we doing this?

Speaker 4 (20:25):
And then when it was good, I was like, oh,
what a.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Great I know man, You know what, man, I've learned
to just.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Trust, just trust trust Sean man because.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
He's going to come up with something creative. It's not
going to be a play where you're like, oh, he
shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Right, It was a great play. And they had practiced
that time and time and time again.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
And I was talking to Nick about how much pressure
does boat knicks have to be under.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Come on, man, you gotta.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Throw the perfect pass here, and I'm thinking how tight
I would have been thrower.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Passes, but you're like the game on this throw.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
But she said tight for it not a diamond.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
I'm just saying and I get it because like most
fans and people in the media don't understand that level
of pressure in that in those moments, right, And you
know it's it's what you do in those moments as
the players are coach that truly define you.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Because You're talking about the throat.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
From bow and I'm thinking, I'm the catch, I mean,
get the catch. And then just coach Peyton just having
a pair of brass ones to even call it because
big and O'Brady was sitting right next to me going
did the same reaction that you were.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
You have Grant no, what is he doing?

Speaker 5 (21:46):
And I'm just like, well, what I've seen from this
team thus far this season, the play calling has changed
a lot under Sean Payton. I don't know what caused it,
what forced it has changed a lot, and he's gone
full riverboat gambler, right, and and some of those plays
did not really come to fruition because of execution. It

(22:08):
wasn't the fact that it was a back play call.
It wasn't executed like the play that go back to
the Chargers game right, two plays with blew that game
wide open, one to Marvin Mims and the other the
Courtland sudden.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
But those were excellent play calls that.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
You knew exactly what the defense was going to be
in and you called the perfect call for execution.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
But this play was a little shorter pass Courland I
was not a big like the other thing.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Though.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
You're gonna get second guests on these calls if they
don't go right.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
So the other thing was okay.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
So the sure handed guy missed a reliable was Courtland sudden,
But you had to figure they they knew the ball
was probably going to go to him, so you had
to go to someone else, and you went to a
guy who had some drop problems with drops last season
but also this season, right and go back to the
cincint the game, but you went to him.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
In that particular moment.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Think about the boost of confidence they gave to Troy
Franklin knowing as though you caught the two point conversion
that really stealed the game.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Yeah, that's that was huge, And I'm sure that's a
been confidence booster for him.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yes, of course, man, all right, they coming back to me,
and that's that's what.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
It takes sometimes, though, is your quarterback, your coach believing
in you to call your number in cluch situations?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
But see, that doesn't happen for us on defense. On offense,
these dolls a good number.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Yes, Like if a dude catch a touchdown over you
or he runs you over for a touchdown, how do
you come back from that? Hey, could you guys run
that again so I can make the playof let me
at that. It doesn't happen for us like that. Can
we talk about time, Hey, you knock about it?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Can we talk about Courtland something though for a second too,
because it seems like every big third down when you
got to have it, bo is going to Courtland, whether
he's covered or not, He's gonna give him a chance
to catch the ball, and more times than not, Cortland's
coming down with it.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Yeah, And I love that because I think most quarterbacks
got to have like a safety blanket, and I think
that's that's a safety blanket.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
He's like all right when I get when I get
down and things are going not going well for.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Me, I'm going to Courtland, right, Courtland's a lot of
time about ten. He gonna catch, You're gonna come down
with it. And I love what Course been doing lately too.
He getting somebody that run after the catch catch.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, court said, yeah coming yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
That one play where he caught it and then turned
the court put his foot in the ground and turned
the car and was just gone, got like thirty four
to thirty five yards on it.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
And he's another guy that got.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
A little more money this offseason and seems to be
playing better, you know, bucking that trend that you talked
about earlier.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Neck Well.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
I think also at the beginning of the season, there
was a chart far as the tiers of wide receiver
in the league, and I think Pro Football Focus did this,
and Courtland was not in the first two three tiers.
They had him like in the fifth and sixth tier.
And that due to, in my opinion, a lot of

(25:01):
disrespect for him as a wide receiver because when you
look around in the league, they don't really talk about
Courtland in that way, right, even though he is wide
receiver won for this team. There's a lot that he
brings to the table because I go back to when
Courtland is here at Russell, like he caught ten touchdowns
and you look at how he caught those touchdowns and

(25:22):
those crukus ketches, toe tag swag doing all of that.
And he's a big body guy. He no longer has
that long speed like Troy Franklin has, but like you said,
he is all reliable when bow needs a play to
be made. They're going to fourteen. So I'm sure that
says a lot for Courtland. And I'm looking forward to

(25:44):
the matchup on Sunday just to kind of get ahead
of myself because I remember the last time the Broncos
played the Jets here, there was a passing affairan's call
clearly passing affairs sauce.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
The sauce had.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Caught him by the back of his jersey, remember that,
And they didn't call it. And I listened to I
can't remember who was on the call that day, but
they were just praising saw Us guarder for his coverage.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm like, what the hell you're looking at? You? That's passing? Yes?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Did you hear him come out the other day and say,
oh man, we're getting so many penalties called against us.
It's because we're.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
A bad team or whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I'm like, I think the league is just finally catching
up to you grabbing the wide receiver every single Playfo.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Did you see what happened on Sunday when they played
the Cowboys? You know, was it George Pickens taking for
like forty yards and guess what he was doing? Grab
holding on, holding on for dear life.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Well, let's look.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Ahead to that game on Sunday against the Jets. I mean,
it feels like a trap game to me. But you
got to think that the Broncos were coming off that
high of beating the Super Bowl champ Philadelphia Eagles and
just the confidence boosts that gave them.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
It doesn't feel like it's going to be a letdown,
right Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
And just knowing the route that we've had, you know,
losing a couple of games that we we know that
we should have won. I don't think they're taking anything
for granted right now. I think they're they're gonna make
sure they're gonna be over overly cautious about making sure
that we take care of this team, that everybody knows

(27:14):
that we should be.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And I love the idea of Sean Payton taking the
team over there straight from Philadelphia, like getting your body
adjusted to the time change, because a lot of teams
wait until midweek to get over to London. But they're
already going to be adjusted by Wednesday's practice Tomorrow, they're
gonna be ready to roll.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Yeah yeah, and uh the sorees.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
You can get ready to that time difference. Boy to
better because it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Be what seven thirty in the morning here, which starts
at four thirty in the morning.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Yes, koa yeah, we'll be down at burn Down, Ben
and I at seven.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
In the morning.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
All right, Steve, we had this big debate last night
and obviously wet blanket, all bright go wrong side of it.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Oh, are you a fan of robes?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Rolls?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
For what.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like when you go to a hotel and they got
a robe there can get out of the shower, put
a robe.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
On, uh not a normally still hanging in the closet.
I want to hope. Uh yeah, but I don't worry.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
I have phases where I work, but I like to
have my loan pajamas.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, but here's the thing, at least.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
You've worn it. Yeah, I wanted, But I would.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Consider myself a robe guy because I'm I don't have
my like I have my smoking jacket one.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
He definitely gets it's not okay, I have two robes.
You're a robe guy. I can tell you at what
does that mean?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
You can tell what does that mean? You can tell
I'm a robe guy?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
You just tell you. I mean that that's you bro disrespect.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't even know if that needs But I do
have two robes.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
I do like robes, but I'm not overly obsessive about
the ropes. It's something like, okay, out of a month,
how many times do your robe? I don't wear unto
uh the winter months, okay, but in.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
A month, okay, just saying December, December, he got thirty
one days in December?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
How many I may wear three?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Right?

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Yeah? Well, I mean on Christmas you gotta.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Wear the robe.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Right.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
That's kind of like the thing that you do you
come down, the kids are opening gives you know, It's
it's kind of one of those things that's It's like
as as American is an American pie in my book, I
like you over wear three times a month?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I don't know if I wear buying three times a
months real.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Well, but Ben was saying that he doesn't like robes
at all.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
See, I'm wearing the robe when I can tell Missus
Smith has got a little twink corner eye.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I need to pull out the robe.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
There you go, get some candles, some incense, and some martinellity.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Let's go on to the KA Traffic Center and Cfdvo
Bryant the road robe guy.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh one robe guy, especially when Missus Smith has a
twinkle in a rye.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
The aforementioned Steve Atwater and Studio alongside Nick Ferguson getting
some good texts on the KOA Common Spirit health text
line at five six six nine zero from Stacey and Utah. Hey, guys,
just wanted to say how great it is to hear
Steve and Nick, two former Broncos safeties chopping it up.
And also from the seven to seventy five Nick has

(30:33):
a robe like the old spice guy.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
And a truth to that, Nick, you know what I have.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
I do have an all white robe and it looks
like something that Rick Flair would have worn back in
the day. All I need is a black boa to
kind of go with it. Uh, I'm thinking about wearing
that to burn down on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Now I know what to get you for Christmas. Wait
wait wait wait wait the boy or another.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
No Boa, you already got multiple robes. Steve already mentioned
you look like a rope guy. I know you got
a couple of them.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I do.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
I do leave one that's kind of a red robe
with the black lapails that looks like a hue had
from the smoking jacket.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
So one of the only things I took when my
grandpa passed away a couple of years ago was a
robe that looks exactly like That's what I pull.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Out for Missus Smith. It means, it means memories with it.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
I like that if you happen to be shopping and
you know you happen to see one that looks big similar,
either you can get it for me and I return
the money, or you just tell me where I can
go pick it up.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I was gonna say, I might just send you the link.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
You know what I make here? Yeah? Uh, Steve.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Before we get you out of here, I want to
get your thoughts on the Jonathan Gannon situation with.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Arizona Cardinals, and that's crazy kind of.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Giving this player a war arms shiver, which you know,
in my opinion, he kind of deserved it after dropping
the ball going into the end zone. But I would
love to hear two former players takes on it and
Jonathan Gannon getting one hundred thousand dollars fine today from
the NFL and apologizing to his team, and it did
feel like a sincere apology to his team.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I think I saw I think I saw it. Uh,
look at it one more time though.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Man, So for those that didn't see it, he kind
of gave him a little nudge.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Right at the beginning, which was I was fine with, but.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
That second one, it was the second it felt like
there was a little more force behind it, like it
kind of wind winded up.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
And then it's just like a high school coach, right, Yes,
like a kid. Well, shouldn't never do it. But I've
seen it happen before.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I've seen it happen to me and in high school football.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
It wasn't too bad. It wasn't too bad.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
He can't do that, though.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yeah, I don't know how I would have reacted to that.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Glad it my college coach.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
There was a play a guy uh guts to pass
on the sideline, and you know I didn't hit him
quite right and came off to the sideline.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
My coach grabbed me, What are you doing? Shaped his
hand off?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Man?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
What doing your hands? I mean, chill up now, like, hey,
we can't do that, coach. We can't. We can't start
grabbing on me. Now, what do you think? Do you
have no problems though? That's Rocky, He's still one of
my best friends to this day. And he put his
hands on you. You put us in your hands on hand.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
And that was that.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, we got that straight.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
We don't.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
We don't.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
We don't grab each other. You could talk to me,
you can say what you want to me.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
I can handle all that, but you know you can't
grab me.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
See, I don't know if I'm the right person to
ask this question because I'm the same guy who tackled
one of my coaches in practice.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
What yes, I've heard the starter.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
You tackled your coach in practice.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
When I was with the Texans with Quickly, David Gibbon
was my coach, and David had and I had history
from being here with the Broncos. So we were doing
this fumble drill and I was going to pick up
the fumble, not once, not twice, like a fumble, like
you punched the ball out.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And bumble umble, no fumble, Okay, fumble, So.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I'm going.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm going to pick up the fumble.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
And he kicked the ball not once, but twice when
I was trying to pick it up. So on the
third time he kicked it, I didn't even go after
the ball.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I just tackled him. And I had four pads on, and.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Everyone was looking at me like I was psychotic, Like
Nick just had psychotic like Nick.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Like Ray Rose was there and he and he was
talking to me like.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
I had a psychotic break right, And I just had
this this kind of pain, dead pan look on my
face like I wasn't even listening to him at that point.
I was just too far gone. So I think I
am the wrong person to talk about this so well,
because again, done that to me, I mean, we would

(35:03):
have an incident.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
The guy looks like he's almost crying.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Because, yeah, I mean, because he's being berated.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
He knows that that that.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Fumble kind of costs his team the ball game.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
Yeah, but that's also probably why the coach did that too,
because he's like looking like a chump man get me.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, we know who's never a chump, Steve Atwater.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Steve, we appreciate your time as always, man, thanks for
stopping it.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It was always fun me. I appreciate you guys. We'll
be back in just a couple of minutes on Broncos.
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