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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Distressing news out during the break. I was.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Giving our good friend Nick Ferguson here a little bit
of a guph as somebody posted a picture of some
extremely well done steak on Twitter and couldn't help but
send it to me. Oh absolutely, I mean, I'm gonna
every time I see what, I'm gonna send it to you.
But then as I went out there into the bullpen
during the break, uh, and I saw our guy Jody George.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
By the way, Jody shows up.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Every Friday with like the best snacks ever, like bringing
whole cakes.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Like he did today, just cut it up for everybody.
Jody's the best, and he has the smoothest butter voice
you've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Jody's out there and we're talking, and I found out
he's a well done steak man.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
See. I don't know what to do with that, Jody.
See I've never said that. I never said that was
well done. I don't know. Joey Jordan is a well
he likes his thing. I mean he was.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
The way he was describing it was that he would
order a plate of ash am.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I wrong in this, no pink well done. You're with me, right, Nick?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, you might be alone on that because Ben has
made the listeners think that that's how I order my steak, right,
and I like the steak, and because I said I
like it a little brown, and that was brown on
the crust part of it, right, And they took it

(01:29):
to mean that it was brown all the way through.
But as though he found when we go to the Burndown,
I always get it media.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, he gets it like media a little over. It's
a little over media, but it's it's close enough you.
On the other hand, though, you don't want any pink
in there, whatsoever, it goes back if it's pink.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I believe you sent it back to I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I tell you what I was hoping I could take
Nick because I can't find a lot of people like me.
My father would have eaten steak with you. He wanted
charge shoe leather. I was so excited because I was
ready for today.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Thank you for steaks. We're going to go across the
street to Ruth Chris and we were going to eat
it up. We don't want to do that. You're off
the lists. We'll go I do a one too steak.
Sauce on your steak.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I thought you might as well take that Chris
there comes.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Every time.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Listen, the guy comes up to you and he asked
you if you want sauce with your steak?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You say, I hope not a one? Since day one? No,
that's a one. Was always stressed to the ship, you know,
no insult to the chef, right right?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
But joy always that guy thought, yeah, yeah, well I
will have.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
To say.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I too used to put steak sauce a one. Yes,
you guys are killing right now. Well yeah I used to,
Like I don't I don't do it now. But if
there is something that happened to be hanging around, what

(03:08):
cut do you get down?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I want to know how long this enlightened sophistication?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
You know, when did you establish that.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I gave him enough? You don't want to know it
wasn't been at all.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
But uh, as you grow in your your palette change,
you want you want to kind of.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Taste more of the seasoned meat.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's like, if I grab a burger, you know I'm
not gonna put like ketchup on it.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Don't give him extra max sauce. Well that's the other.
So I saw somebody order a burger rare. I'm like, whoa,
what are we doing. You don't order ground chuck rare.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You order that, you order caught right, but a steak,
you know, you get I like it more rare than
most people. So I accept that I like it more
than most people. I stake over me. It's like it
looks like a war crime. Who's committed on that?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
On that stakers?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I'm saying, what do you what do you if I
made a stake for you and you said it back
because I'm like bro sitting you asking for a one,
I'm personally a fund then his.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Stake looks like a crime, seems sowhat.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
So that he his French fries right, and it's like,
where do we put police tape or fly?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's you know? Do you ask me how you want
the steak cooked? And I'm like, I think can still
be more. Just bring the cow directly to the table.
It can still be moving right when you take your
first bite. No one can talk. There has to be
silence at the table and focus. If there's any sound
that comes from the plate of meat in front.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Of you, yes, yes, because we're looking to hear it. Yes, right, Oh, Joey.
I appreciate you being a good sport, oh so much.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I need that steak with that garlic butter on it. Yeah,
oh dude, garlic time butter. I whip up my own
little Yeah, I'm all about that. But the text line
five four one, even heroes fall, Ben, even heroes fall
talking about Jody.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
With the well done steaks. See, look, my hypocrapsy doesn't
go that far. It doesn't go that far. Yeah, I'll
see here. We got to tell o this. It's okay
to what sauce.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
On your steak, but just admit it's not the steak
you want, it's the sauce.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well, that's why you kind of put it on the side.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Like if I'm somewhere, let me tell you how it
was back in the day, and you got high in
fifty sents.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
So back in the day, real quick, my dad and.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
He would order for all of us, and he would
order well done steaks and we're sitting like, I don't
know what are you doing man, And no sauce.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
It was well done with no sauce. Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
So now I've had certain steaks and obviously just tell
you how great the steak was because I had to put.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Sauce on the steak. But now you get a.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Steak from their Friscos with Chris that has got that
nice crust on top of it, and you could take
taste the seasoning in it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
There's nothing, but that's what I.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Always wherever I go, I cut the steak, I taste
it firs, and that's when I determine whether I'm going
to add sauce to it or not.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right, That's exactly, And that's what you're saying, Well, I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I don't have sauce, like if it's if it's if
I cut it and I eat it and it's not right,
I sent it back like I'm Jody.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I'm Jody Jordan. I'm not saying Jody's like sending it
back if it's not Jody's like this isn't working.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm not sending it back. Because I've seen movies. I
know people who work in restaurants.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
What goes on back there? I've seen Road Trip. Do
not spitch that Copsburger or was that? A super truer
says no, you know what, just bring me a hot plate. Yeah,
and now I'm just slice it and cook it on
a hot plate. Okay, that's you know that does an
innovative idea Five six sixten zeros in text. I had
several several of these texts seven to two ozero medium rare,

(06:44):
No steak sauce.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean I like rare, but medium rare. I mean
I've been known to go medium rare. If it's more
than medium rare, I'm probably not gonna eat it. I'm
just saying like that. That's me three oh three. Oh
my god, No, pink and steak sauce were just insulting
the cow that died to feed you at all caps
you know what.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's something like my wife would say. That is your
wife like to stick where No.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I think she probably more medium rare than you. But yes, okay,
But the whole thing is that she would often say, well,
that animal gave his life to be on your plate.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
And you're reducing this. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I want what I want, I know and what I want.
I'm fair. Everybody's got their own taste. I just like
I can, he said, though he was out there in
the bullpen, he was like, I could take Nick Fergus
like his eyes lit up in a moment of joy
because he believed were the same age like it was.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I wish I was out there to capture the moment.
It was like when the grencha I grew three times.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
It was like that.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
He was like that moment of realization with bet Affleck'
looking around the bar and chasing Amy and realizes what
kind of bar he's in. Like it was like that
kind of moment of zen for Jody Jordan there and
his hopes were dashed once he found out that.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Jody, I'm sorry that I ruined that moment for you.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Uh, if you do want to go for steaks, maybe
you Van and myself can go for steaks.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
And just kind of have a nice town a little
run the whole gamut.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'll get the rare. You'll be kind of the you know,
it would be the Goldilock situation. This was too hoo,
this was too cold. This is right, Jody'll get the ash,
I'll get the cow will still be moving at the table,
then Nickel have an actual steak when all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Done so that's like eating cereal without milk. If the
steak is well done.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, you know, I'm a real song. I grew up
in Inner City. One day woke up, my mom wasn't home,
I was hungry. We had we uh had cereal. We
did have milk.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I used to do that. Don't eat cereal at the
box like that yet frost and flakes.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, we didn't have sugary cereal growing up. But I like, wait, no,
my dad was weird. Uh we shopped this is my
dad was a healthy dude before that was like a thing.
Like he was looking for organic food back before grocery stores.
Like we had to go to these out of the
way grocery stores in the middle of nowhere. The suspect shady.
You walk in there and you look at you know,
you're asking for something and you're like looking for the

(09:06):
peanut butter or whatever, and the ladies like, yeah, it's
right over there by the eye of newt you know, like.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
These are weird.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Places back in the ages. Or they had the organic
so anyway, we did not have sugar, Like, we did
not have soda. We did not sugar your cereal, we
didn't have any I hate that for you because I
mean we had fruit loots.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I remember my first taste the lucky charms. It blew
your mind. You fifteen years old, your taste was just
when insane.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I was like, this is a thing That's probably why
I eat like such absolute crap.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Right now, is because I missed out on that for
the first you know, he's on the Magi rood.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I missed out of the first fifteen years of
my of my life, you know, and all that kind
of stuff. I used to do in college though, I
would do that. We had the Lucky Charms. I would
carry around the Lucky Charms and eat it directly out
of the back. I would take the bag out of
the box and eat out of the bag.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, walk just like those little.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Uh was a Kellogg cereal that came with the White
car and yeah, yeah, you said, but this I just
got the big regular bag of Lucky Charms.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
And then I take the bag out of the box
and take that and I would I would have like
a little thing of milk to drink, but I wouldn't
like pour it in there.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
All right.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
So here's what we used to do, because we used
to get the cereal from the school. But when you
peeled the label off, you know that you could actually
iron that on your shirt.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yes, we used to take the pill the top off.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I did not know this of the white car and
we gues you iron them on your shirt.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, that's what it's what we used to do. I mean, listen,
you're growing up in the hood, you pour you don't
really have.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
But I didn't know anything about that because I didn't
have those kinds of cereals. I grew up with a
stuff called like amarant flakes, like okay, Welshi.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
So it was so wild that Okay, obviously everyone grew
up in the projects we grew to. We went to
the same school, so it was a way of our
personal way of having designer.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
That's off.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I like, I was not cool at it because we
didn't those kinds of Otherwise I'd have been right on
board that five six six US. It was a text
line threal city says a cow with a high fever
browned on both side. It is perfect, yes, man, after
a mile of heart, No man, cow fever at the
table is cooked off.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I know the meat tissue is nice and soft, but
it's still not warm warm.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's it's cool in the center, but it's like room
temperature warm.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, this is only heat to it.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
That's why the perfect way to cook it for me
is that flash sear on the outside, so you get
that crust because you put it in that that skill
is super high heat, so it's flash seared on the
outside of that crust, but then it's like cool in
the middle. That is the perfect Rob Dawson knows what
I'm talking about. He's walking out there.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
No, no, no, because when when you it looks like it's
real steak, but once you cut it open, it's just like,
that's what that's.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Not real steak. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
The four I oh well done plus steak sauce means
you're wearing a robe eating it off a TV tray, right.
I think Sack was here for the robe conversation TV
dinners man.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
So let me ask you a question for if you
went to someone's home and they were preparing steaks, and
they prepare.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
The steaks not to your liking. Once you steal, I'm
a guest in someone's house, I choke it down.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Really, I don't know. See, I'm a guest in someone's home.
And then they are preparing food and they put the
effort in like that's the thing. Like for instance, you
go Thanksgiving, right, yes, I make a really good turkey,
Like I make a juicy, really good turkey. I'm real
judging on it. So if I go somewhere else's dry,
I'm gonna choke it down because the Yeah, I get

(12:29):
the hydrate and just eat a turkey.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Keep the drinks coming over here. I need some more water,
a sap.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
But I'll choke it down because I'm I'm polite like that,
Like I'm a guest at their home, but I will
offer to cook the next tie just.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Because I'm not you know, yeah, that's not And I'm
a pretty good cook. I guess one of those things
I actually love.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
You wouldn't know that because I make all the jokes
about eat all the garbage, But I actually I am
a good cook, and I love cooking.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Like I like trying stuff out at a restaurant.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I'm like, I can make that, and then I go
home and like try to tweak the recipe to make it.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
But see, once again, I know that there's a a
certain etiquette that you have as a guest. Yeah, well
as the host. I mean, isn't it an etiquette too
as well? If someone's presenting something to you that is
not good for your your palette. Yeah right, so you
can't cook, I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
But I'm not gonna say in the face. But I know,
should I be forcing you to say the next time
they want to hang out, why don't we go to
a restaurant instead.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm all for saying that, but I'm the type of
person like, no, tank it up at their at their home,
no thank you?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, Yeah, if there's an opportunity to be like yeah,
I don't want like like, if there's an opportunity to
politely decline defending the host, that and then I'm there.
But generally, if they've taken the effort to prepare something,
then I'm gonna go ahead and eat it, even if
it is because.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I've had some I've had some meet the parents moments.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You know, you've been with a young lady for a
little while, you meet the parents and you have to
suffer through it. Oh my god, I'm like, wow, you
can't cook. I keep going you really really can't cook.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
See I think that's wrong because now you have to
sit there, you have to suffer and the pain and
anguish that they can see visually on your face.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I never let him see me bleeding. Now it might
be a test. That might be the test. That might
be that dad. You know, he's trying to put me
through it, you know what. And I'm like, you ain't
gon see me? Crack man? Is he for me?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I'm not hungry, yea, my stomach is I ate something
for lunch that usually works too for lunch is a
little unstund like I might just do a little drink
a little water.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
And usually that's what I do bread because I don't
want to mess up bread. I don't want to insult
you as as a host, right right, yeah, So so
I would prefer for us not to.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Be in that entanglement.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Sometimes you don't know though, Like you don't until you
sit down and get on the plate.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And then it's like way too salty or something. Your face.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Face right now, you have absolutely suffered through that at
some point my way three or three, Nick, your wife
is a wise, wise woman. Just to get that one
there before we we have to break NFL six back,
we come back.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Appreciate you guys indulging us when we talked a little
bit about steak. You know, we got to wash that
down with and that's an NFL six pack. It's time
for the NFL six Pat.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I'm going to trade the last beer insight and insight
information you can't find anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
No.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Six the Top six NFL headlines what.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Rock Purty is slated to miss yet another game for
the San Francisco forty nine.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Ers with his toe injury.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
With Max Jones performing so well as his replacement, do
you think there's any chance he could challenge Purty spot
at San Francisco's starting quarterback? And do you think he'll
have another shot as a Week one starting quarterback in
the NFL?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
But I have to go back and look at the
numbers on this and now tradable that Party contract is.
I was sort of worried about that from the get go,
because anytime you signed the quarterback to the big money deal,
that's going to hamstring you in terms of what you're
able to do with The Niners already had a bunch
of big money contracts out there, and they got a
bunch of guys at a big money contracts aren't playing,
you know, ran Auk, Nick Bosa, Rock Party, all that
kind of stuff. They're gonna have to figure something out

(16:05):
with some of those some of those deals. Mac Jones
played pretty well, and you know, he played pretty well
within the confines of that offense.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
If you know, if he continues to keep it up
and play at a high level like that, maybe you
make that decision in order to get cost effective again
at the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I can understand the idea of being cost effective, but
when you look at what mac Jones has done in
his team as a first round draft pick with the
New orleand Patriots, they go into Jacksonville Jaguars and pales
in comparison to what we've seen from mystery relevant. Let's
not forget about what Rock Party has done statistically for

(16:41):
the San Francisco forty.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Nine Ers team.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And if I am mac Jones, yes you found a
home with the forty nine Ers and the best place
for you being a backup quarterback. Could answer your question.
Could he find another job somewhere else, Yes, but he
understands his odds are better playing and really performing in
the forty nine A uniform.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
As for that brock pretty contract you were actually asking about,
then it is movable.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
As soon as this offseason. The Niners would.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Eat seven million in dead cap, so they'd be losing
some cap space on the front end unless they wanted
to do the post June first thing.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
But it's very movable. Only a seven million in dead cap. Yeah,
that's that's not bad at all.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Only seven additional seven additional yeah, yeah, seven additional, so
thirty nine million in total. But you know, maybe yeah again,
if you do a post June first deal, which you
probably would with something of this size, it's it's man, okay, yeah,
because it's like it's like thirty two million dead I
think you ever take thirty five to thirty two something there?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Am I right? Thirty two on the dog? Yeah, and
then the next year it's twenty four.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
It drops eight million precipitously at that point, but when it's.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Sound to twenty four you're above water on it actually
saved money, Yeah, I don't know, man, seven million is
not a lot to.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Move off, especially for Max ChEls.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
You probably get on a reduced deal and then you're
able to restructure some things and get financially solvent again.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
They're tighted up against it with a bunch of guys
that aren't playing. I don't know. It's tough to move on.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
From a quarterback like that too. Brock's been such a
great story, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Know, he's been more than a great story.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
He's actually produced, over produced for a guy and his
draft situation.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Oh yes, And the nixt point, if you do move him,
it's a lot easier to eat that maybe seven million
dollars in dead cap, because whoever's acquiring him is going
to be getting him on a cheap deal at least
up front, and he's a talented quarterback that's gonna net you,
I think at least a first round pick.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well that's what I'm saying, Like, you get draft capital
and cap space back. And if mac Jones is the
real deal, if this isn't just a flash.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
In the pan, I mean.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Real deal in Meg Jones in the same sentence, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
He was drafted in the first round.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
We saw what happened when he was with that bad
Patriots team.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay, Patricia in the place, Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Was he set up in the right situation? No, So
now you have to ask us, so is it brock
perty is it Kyle Shanahan and how he coaches and assistance?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, I probably is Kyle Shanahan the system?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
But if you find somebody that you can plug it,
if that's a if that's the case, but you're painting him.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
If that's your advantage if you're supposed to have been.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
But that's the advantage if you're the if you're the
quarterback whisper, if you're the coach that can do that,
you can plug and play anybody.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Right, So just keep plugging him and playing them all
through it.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm gonna calle John tomorrow and let's say, hey, listen, John,
your formula is working. So my co host Bizeman all
Bryce said he's watching what you guys do with quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
He's the next one on dead Yeah. I mean, look,
if Kyle Shannon's all you said it could be, he
could turn me into an All pro. That's what that
might be on.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Anybody, anybody's coaching ability then saying why, by the cow
would you can have the milk for free?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Ballast.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Cowboys running back Miles Sanders is out for the rest
of the season as he's getting surgery on an ankle injury,
meaning breakout star and former Denver Bronco Chavante Williams should
have an.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Even larger role of the way here.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
How many rushing yards do you think Javonte Williams will
finish with this season and what do you think his
market will be like this offseason? Considering he's signed a
one year deal in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, that's I mean, Jadon Blue is like the only
other body they even have on the roster, and he's
had the weird.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Locker room stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Uh huh, Yeah, that's that's fascinating to me. Javontay Williams
already rushed for almost almost five hundred yards this season.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think it's for something.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
He's he's in the in the ballpark there and he's
he's caught a few, He's.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Got five or six touchdowns. He's having a heck of
a season.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I would not be surprised to see with him, you know,
finished with with if he stays healthy with over a
thousand yards eleven hundred yards on the grounds and is
very reachable.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Uh for him at this point, you know, I'm hats
off to him. He's having a great season.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
One thing I will say is that the thing nobody's
talking about with that Dallas Cowboys team is Clayton Adams.
Adams was with the with with the Cardinals last year
when James Connor had that great season, he goes over
to Dallas. Now you got a running back over there
in Dallas having a great year, and you see the
fall off in Arizona in the run game there as well.
Clayton Adams is so many people should have an eye on.

(21:04):
Is potentially moving up the ranks in the in the
in the coaching ranks here.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
So well, I guys, guess would that be?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And say you have to give Schodenheimer a credit for
being dedicated to the run game. Yeah, and really featuring
Javonte knowing his dad, I mean that's well, well obviously,
and then you look at Javonte's numbers.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I'm with you, he should have more.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Than the thousand yards this season because he's already over
his twenty twenty four thrust and touch dous down total
with the Denver Broncos. So I'm happy for the guy
and I wish him the best.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Clayton Adams, for those wondering if that name sounds vaguely familiar,
was the offensive line coach here at CEU for a
couple of years.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
He was here when Mike McIntyre was here. Interesting, well,
that has success right the year they had success running
the football.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
So, just in case anybody was wondering who that was,
Javonte currently at four hundred and forty seven yards and
five touchdowns so far this year averaged eight point four
yards per carry against that Jets defense.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
In my work, I love it.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
Three Rock Powers and set to miss his second consecutive
game with a knee injury. I think he suffered that
knee injury in Week one and has just been playing
through it, but has missed these past two weeks. Do
you think we'll see twenty twenty four's version of Rock
Powers any time or at any point this season? And
do you think there's any way Pete Carroll could be

(22:23):
one and done in Vegas with how rough this season
has been for the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
That's a that's a distinct possibility. I mean, it depends
on who's available and those kinds of things. Tom Brady,
you know, Tom Brady kind of hands selected Pete Carroll
believe it or not for the Raiders. So you know,
I struggle to think they give up on it after
one year, but they've got to get through some pieces
they got to get in. They find they punted on
Jermaine Pratt finally, when you know him not wanting to

(22:49):
be there and wanting to be an indie. As far
as Powers goes, I don't know. I mean, my fantasy team.
Hope so, but I'm not pulling my breath at this point.
It looks like, you know, that's an injury is probablynna
affect the rest of the year. I tend to think
Carrol's back for a second year, and I tend to
think Brock Powers isn't himself till next year. And I
tend to think they have an entirely different quarterback next
year because it sort of looked like the wheel would
finally come off for Geno.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
You know, the things that affecting Geno Smith and that
Raiders' offense is Brock Bauers. The idea was that Bowers
were going to allow Gino to kind of create some
space and allow some options for Ashton Genzy. That's not happening.
And then Bowers was just like the total offense for
the Raiders just in addition year ago. And as far
as Pete Carroll is concerned, I mean, who would think

(23:33):
that you have two other, you know, more successful coaches
and Pete Carrow and Bill Belichick for now having issues
with their respected teams winning the pros win in college
football and people are talking about is this going to
be their last run?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I always find that.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Very interesting well, the weapons outside of brock Powers haven't
really lived up to expectations so far.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Ashton GENI.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
I think it's probably a product of the offensive line.
But you know, it's fun in the off season to go, Wow,
we've got a rookie fourth round receiver as our starting
X man. This is awesome, And then the season starts
and you go, oh, no, we've got fourth rounders starting receiver.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah. And by the way, I believe in Deontay Thorton.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
You know, I believe in in a lot of the
the weapons that they have, But right now it's Yeah,
it's been slow going with a very young cast there
as on the offense.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Or dot Com lists in order, Trey Hendrickson, Alvin Kamara,
David and Joku, Mark Andrews, Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips, Kevon Thibodeaux,
and Jamis Winston as the top eight trade candidates at
this year's deadline. Of those eight, who do you think

(24:46):
is the most likely to be moved? Do you think
the Broncos could add any of those players? And is
there a player not listed in that top eight that
you think could.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Be on the move.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh, that's a that's a bunch. I don't think that
gonna move either one of those. Maybe maybe Winston they
get the right offer. I'm not sure the Giants are
moving that they might be buyers they start winning some
football games here rather than sellers on.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
The other ones.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, I definitely agree with the Miami players and the
New Orleans players and Mark Andrews. That's that's been known.
They've been trying to deal him. Everybody knows the Trey
Hendrickson situation. I don't believe the Broncos would be in
on any of this. I don't think he even need
to be. And from my understanding, I think the Broncos
kind of feel pretty solid with what they have. They
they you know, if Matt Purton doesn't work out, they
may go looking for left guard, but I think they

(25:31):
feel like they're they're pretty set. So we'll see on
that as far as rest of this goes. I'd be
very interested in Thibodeau. I'd be interested in Trey Hendrickson,
but probably not his price point on this team. Mark
Andrews would fit on this team, but I don't know,
Like if that's if you're gonna pay what it would take.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I'm would think of all these players, I mean Mark Andrews,
David and joku uh Cavon Thibodeau and Alba Kamara. These
are all players that you would actually you take.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
A look at and see, Well, we all.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Know all these guys would be great fits, but they're
not fit financially because that means that you got to
pull from.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Somewhere else to pay these guys.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
But you always look to see how to add value
to your roster. But I don't think the Broncos need
to go in this direction. I think they're saying with
what they have.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
I think if the Broncos, you know, tear off some
wins here, take advantage of the easy part of their schedule,
and all of a sudden you're looking at six and two,
seven and two, and maybe you're playing for a home
field in the AFC, all of a sudden, why not
push the chips in an ad I mean, not push
too many chips in, but you know, out of Mark
Andrews or or maybe an Alvin Kamara to take those
Tyler be Dason.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Snaps and just try and this offense up with it.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, I from what I've heard, I think Kansas.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
City might be after Alvin Kamara too, so that might
be something to keep your eye on.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I just I don't think they're going to be buyers
based on the conversation I had. I think they love
what they the groundwork that they've done in the foundation
they built.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Five following they're shocking lost to the New York Giants,
NFL Network insider Mike Garafolo described at the Eagles locker
room as quote very lost and defeated end quote, and
added that the team's vibe, the team's quote vibe, a
body language, and everything is off at this point. How

(27:17):
do you how worried about the Eagles high end expectations
are you at this point? And what do you think
Phillies record will be over their next six weeks or
you know, a third of the season here good consider
we finished up the first third forum. They've got at
Minnesota home against the Giants, a bye week, at the
Packers home against the Lions, and at the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's a tough stretch there.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I think they can They can win at Minnesota, especially
when you got ten days to prep, you get your
revenge game against the Giants at home. After that, they
could win both those. You're not going to lose the
bye week. Obviously they probably lose to the Packers Lions.
So that's what two and two, And in the last
couple of games at Dallas and the Bears, I think
it'd be three and three is probably the number here.
I think it'll lose the Dallas. I think they beat
the Bears, you know, kind of thing. We'll see maybe,

(28:02):
you know, maybe they could go to it four here,
but it's not you know, I mean, that was that
was certainly the worst defensive performance that they've had all year.
And part of that's because Shaleen Carter was you know,
was obviously out.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
But I I that.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Offense has been wrong since Kevin Batulo has been there.
You can see it with AJ Brown and his sulking
and all that kind of stuff. Uh and and they're
just not getting Saquon involved like they need to get involved.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, I truly believe everything that you say.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
And when I think about it, this stim is a
very talented roster that obviously things are going to be
different from one year to.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
The next based on Andrews and how long you play.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
But the biggest difference is the play caller, you know,
not the fact that Jackson Dark ended the game with
more rushing yards than Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
That is a problem.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
So for for me, even though they have some internal issues,
the bigger issue is you know Kevin Petullo and his
play calling.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, Kevin Batulo is the guy failed up with his
whole his whole career. And again, I don't understand how
you wound up.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
With that job. Is that as being failing failing off.
We've seen it. You've seen it all the time.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
He's failing up with He's definitely he's definitely the face
of that and you can see it. I mean, even
the way they run, the way they're motioning doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Like there's four ways you.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Motion right, your motion to either read on the defense
or to attack the defense in a certain way or
to get you know, they just motion just to be motioning.
It doesn't do anything. And so there's there's there's so
much wrong with that offense. I could spend hours on it.
I don't want to get into it right now.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's it's baffling.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
They're doing the exact same thing they did the last
time they went to the super Bowl. You know, they
had the Super Bowl run. They hire Brian Johnson from
inside the staff, terrible heart, everything cratered. Then they seemingly
learned their lesson, went outside the organization, brought in Kellen Moore,
go back to the Super Bowl and here they are again.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, it's it's one of those it's one of those
things I get.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I just you watch this thing and there's there's a
ton of uh, there's a ton of things as you
see this like you're wondering what's going on? You know,
Like I again, I can get on the motion thing
all day. There's there's four different ways to do a
structural motion, advantage motion, traffic motion, and they.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Are they aren't doing any of that. They're just sending
a guy moving and then snapping the ball. Six think
in Nakua is.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Having a historic start to his season. He's currently on
pace for one hundred and seventy seven catches and nineteen
hundred and ninety nine yards, just one short of two thousand.
Both of those marks would break their respective all time
single season records. Michael Thomas holds the catch record with
one forty nine, Calvin Johnson holds the yardage record with

(30:36):
one nine hundred and sixty four. Which of those two records,
if either do you think Nikua is most likely to break.
And do you think Nikua could be the first ever
two thousand yard receiver this season? It's possible, and they
keep feed him that way.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think the help that he has DeVante Adams on
the other side over there, and I think what's what's
you're going to see is what happens in the second
half of the seasons.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
People start doubling down in a cool and that's gonna.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Op a stuff up Radams, which was the point of
bringing him in the first place.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I think Sean McVay sort of.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Realizes, Hey, if I got two guys, they can't you know,
they can't. They can shut one down, but they can't
shut them both down. Selling out on that and that's
gonna make us dangerous, you know. I think I don't
think he's gonna hit those numbers. I get the I
get the whole pace portion of it that. I don't
think he's gonna hit those numbers, either one of them.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
When all said and douge, I think those numbers are
really difficult to hit in today's game, especially when you
look at how Sean McVay runs his offense. I mean,
Karen Williams, is that you're running back and they like
to feed him. But also you have Devonte Adams who
hasn't really been featured that much in his offense, and
he's gonna win his touches as well. It's one thing
to kind of watch to see what happens. And also

(31:42):
I just take this into mind. Remember you know Cooper Cup,
you know he had a sensational triple crowd type of year.
So who knows if they keep winning. And that means
is though your defense is dominating, en forcing of the
teams to play catchup.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
So if that happens, maybe, but I don't see that happening.
I think the catches one is there for the taking.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
You know, he only needs he needs less than one
hundred more catches, okaybe I mean in.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
These days, with the way the way that the the
way that offenses are, I mean maybe you get the catches,
but the.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yardage I just died. That's a tough ask. I just
can't see that one. I don't know. Maybe that's me.
What do I know?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, seventeen games, I mean, you get the extra game
to do it, You're still not pacing there.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I don't know, man, I don't see anyway Broncos Country
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