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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well the do it Broncos country tonight. But with all
Brian Dick, Ferguson, Grant Smith, we go right out to
the KWA Common Spirraul hotline and bring our guy on
the athletic Daniel Popward, Daniel, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I being great?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks for having me, absolutely always love having you all.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We get a chance to take on the Chargers and
kind of preview that news coming down today. Gus Edwards
out not really I don't think surprising to a lot
of people. But who is going to take over his
place in that secondary running back role? Is that going
to be Vidals Todd Haskins? Who are we going to
see complimenting JK. Dobbins, who's gotten out to a red
heart's red hot start this season for the Chargers, A
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little much of the offense there has not necessarily been
red hot.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, I think you so early on the season you
service you have fifty split between Dobbins and Edwards. I
would imagine you're going to see sort of an uptick
in the number of touches for Dobbins with Edward datas
he sort of takes on like a really RB one
role versus sort of a you know, a committee back there.
And then obviously you mentioned the two other guys options
there with with Haskins and Kamanie Videll. Interesting with Vidout,
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he hasn't been active yet this season, obviously the six
round pick. He showed some interesting things in the preseason.
So I imagine you're sort of see Hassan Hopkins and
buy Out both get touches there. And as Greg Gruman
had sort of said, the offensive coordinator for the Chargers
obviously throughout this process like they're going to be that,
and so I think Dobbins probably moves into more of
a clear cut running back one role and then both
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of those guys I assume will get touches and if
they start making plays and then Roman will certainly see them.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Dan, you and we will get the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
The first two week at the season, they were flying
high and everyone was really optimistic.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Over the past two.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Weeks, not so much, and with the team battling some
some injuries. D J seank he's not back. How is
it that coach Harbor and Justin Herbert muster offensive production
against the Denver Broncos defense who've been playing pretty well
this season?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I mean a lot of the how the beginning
of the season went was sort of like, you know,
you're opponents, right. You have the Raiders and the Panthers,
two teams that aren't very good, and they handle business
against those teams, and then you have the Steelers and
the Chiefs too much better teams and they came out short.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You mentioned the injuries. I think you know, having a
bye week at this point is going to be really
helpful for some of these injuries they're dealing with. Joe Alt,
there standout rookie right tackle, missed the Week four game
against the Chiefs with an MCL sprain. He was back
in practice this week and he was off the injury report,
so getting him back at tackle is going to be huge.
They've also been without Rashaun Slater and losing you know,
your two tackles is going to be difficult. They had
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to move a bunch of pieces around. They had a
practice squad guy, and Sam Mustaf started right guard for
them against the Chiefs. So getting Joe All back in
there will be key. You know, even if Rashaun Slater
is unable to play, he's he's questionable for the game
at least, you know, you'll you won't be turning to
practice squad guys in the offensive line, so you expect
a little bit better pass protectionion, better better run blocking
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with with Joe alt back in there, and fewer moving pieces.
And obviously the other part of this too is Justin
Herberston dealing with the high ankle sprain. He has an
other week to get healthier. He comes off the injury
report today. It's the first time he's actually been off
the report and hasn't been questionable since he suffered that
high ankle strain. If he's moving better, that allows you
to get deeper into the playbook, some more boots stuff,
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quarterback movement stuff, and then obviously, you know, out of structure,
if Justin Herbert can move around a little bit better,
you know, you would expect him to be able to
make plays out of structure on the move off script,
and obviously he's one of the best in the league
of doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Broncos fans familiar with Sam Mustafer was on the you know,
the training camp roster here for the Broncos, unable to crack.
He was trying to be the center. He's unable to
crack the roster with Forsyth And and Wattenburg. Wattenberg, of
course hurt and is out for this game. As we
look at the Chargers offense again, it feels like.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That this has been a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Of a disjointed sort of effort. It feels like it's
been something that's it really just hasn't quite come together
yet with Greg Rohlman trying to figure out what it
is that that he and Justin Herbert the magic they
can make together.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, it's a bright spot.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, Quentin Johnson does seem to have improved, not
that it could have gotten much worse than he was
last year, but he's gotten better. You know, he looks
like he's got better. Lad McConkey looks like he's gonna
be something this league. Josh Palmers looked all right, and
then of course you get the tight ends at Hurst
and Distey would looked like something.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Dobbins averaging absurd six yards of carry.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Uh. At this point, you know, you look at the
offensive line of healthy, you know, the Charger for you
to be something you mentioned Ray Shawn Slater of course
his godfather's are you know, you know, a guy in
their sales department here, Jeff Johnson they've they've got some
they've got some pieces there, but it just feels to
me like it hasn't quite come together yet.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, I think you make a good point. You know,
a lot of this early part of the season, I
feel like has been about establishing an identity. You bring
in Jim Harbaugh as your head coach, you bring in
Greg Roman as your offensive coordinator. There's a way that
they want to play, and it's it's bigger and broader
than schematics, right, It's about a philosophy of like when
a team sees the Chargers on the schedule, they want
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to know that they're in for a long day. And
what you have to establish is a level of physicality
up front. You have to establish the ability to run
the ball, the threat to run the ball. That's how
these guys want to play football. And so early on
in the season you've seen a heavy lead into the
running game, you know. I you know, obviously I've dove
into the statistics, like they lead the league and designed
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rush rate they're at forty nine point three percent overall.
What I like to do, and this is something that
my colleague Mike Sando sort of invented at the athletic.
He calls it the Cook index. But you sort of
look at the first twenty eight minutes of the first
of the of a game, in the first half, first
and second downs in the first twenty eight minutes, when
score isn't really dictating how much you run the ball.
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In those situations, the Chargers are running it over fifty
seven percent of the time. So they've really tried to
establish this identity and what that led to is obviously
less production from Justin Herbert. And now you're sort of
through that phase, you're through the quarter pole of the season.
You've established that identity to a degree. At times. I
think the Panthers game was a really good example of
what they could be in the running game, and it's
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sort of fallen off because of injuries. But now that
you sort of establish that mentality, you've shown that you're
going to call runs consistently and try and try and
build that part of the offense. What can you do
now that you're coming out of the buy and maybe
try and turn that dial up a little bit in
the passing game and allow Justin Herbert to air it out.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A little bit more.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And so that's sort of what I'm looking at I
think they've established what they want to be. I think
you'd be talking to the guys in the locker room. There's
a clear cut identity of what they want to be
upfront and how they want to be offensively. And now
I think you can start turning the dials a little
bit more to maybe get some more out of the
passing game and out of Justin Herberts right on.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
So I'm looking at the injury report and find an
injury report of the week, and I'm saying Shrek Taylor
and a Sante Samuel Jr.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Are expected to.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Be out at least that's kind of the game status
at this particular point. How does this change what Jesse mentored,
the defensive coordinator, wants to do coming into this game
against the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, so both those guys have been ruled out. Jaee
Taylor actually missed the Week four game. He's dealing with
a fibular injury that he suffered in Week one. Their
rookie Tarkie Still they drafted in the fifth round at
A Maryland, actually played really well at nickel in place
of Jair Taylor. Last week, Sama Junior. He was a
full participant on Thursday and was out of practice on Friday.
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He had some sort of setback with that shoulder injury,
and so the question is who's going to start at
outside corner. I think they're pretty comfortable with Hard, he's
still at nickel. The other spot, it could be Dean Leonard,
who's but he's also dealing with a hamstring injury that
kept him out of the Week four game. The next
guy up would be Cam Hart, another rookie that they
drafted in the fifth round. Tremendous size and lengths on
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the outside at six foot three corner, and he's a
guy that could potentially be slotting in there. He's been
playing some special teams as sort as their personal protector
on punt and so you're looking at some moving pieces
there in the secondary. But they've kind of been dealing
with pieces throughout this season. Derwin James missed a game
because of the suspension. Safety Alohi Gilman, their other starting safety,
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missed the game with a knee injury. And I think
what Jesse Minterer are sort of proving here is that
he's done a really good job of cross training these guys,
and he does a really good job of having these
young players ready to step in and in that Chiefs game,
you know they're down Derwin James, they were down just
here Taylor, and they still got to a lot of
complexity on the back end in terms of what they
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were calling, the variety of coverages, the disguises, some of
the third down calls, in terms of how they were
trying to attack pactice mahomes with blitzes and simulated pressures.
So I still think regardless of who's in there, you're
going to see some complexity from Jesse Minter. The question
is are the players coming in there that end up
starting are they to be ready to execute it?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, yeah, that is the question. To date, they've done
a very good job.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, the Chargers are extremely underrated defense nationally, at
least in terms of the amount of buzz that they get.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I think everybody can look at the numbers and see
what they've been able to do.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But it feels like that this is a very physical
defense that has has not gotten its flowers in terms
of what they've been able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Philosophically, things have changed.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
A little bit from what they used to be under
Brandon Staley, and I think Denver world familiar with the
Vic Fangiel blueprint, which is sort of what Staley ran
there as well. You can see how the Broncos have
shifted away with that with Vance Joseph running something more
akin to what Wade Phillips used to run. What are
the differences there in LA with what it is that
they're doing versus what they used to do with a
sort of VIC blueprint under Staley.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, I think the biggest difference is the level of
physicality that you just mentioned that even even attribute that
to Jim Harbaugh. There's just like a standard of how
you have to play on both sides of the ball
to get on the field for Jim Harbaugh, and so
that's really shown up in the running game. Like that's
been the biggest difference. I know how many conversations that
we had been over the years under Staley where it
was just like what's going on with this run defense?
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It was every year that couldn't really.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Stop the run.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And what you've gotten this year as a team that's
way more physical. And the guy I would point to
that's really made the difference in the run defense is
Pune of four, who was really an afterthought in Buffalo
last season. He was inactive for most of the season
healthy scratch, he only played eight games with Chargers identified
him as a guy with potentially something to prove, and
he's been a real force in the middle of the
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defensive line, really like a pure nose tackle, just the
ability to take on double teams, create penetration, and just
be that rock in the center of the defensive line.
And I think what you've seen is the physicality of
the players around Puneiford has really been elevated as a
result because he's just so stout in there. So you
see Denzel Perryman another edition that they made this offseason,
Dan Henley, the two linebackers really able to tack downhill.
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Your edge rushers are able to make more plays in
the ball because of that stoutness in the interior. So
the running game has improved. It's put them in more
advantageous situations. In terms of like coverage split, there hasn't
been too much of a change. They're playing way less
cover six, the less quarter quarter half that was a
big stay staple, but they're actually their most played coverage
is quarters coverage, which is obviously like a staple of
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the Fangio scheme. But I think like it's more of
a mentality shift. I think the Fangio scheme and the
daily idea is to you know, play more passively allowed
dink and dunks and just sort of wait for the mistake.
I think the mentality of this defense is play downhill,
play with physicality, and allow players to be aggressive in
terms of how they attack ball carriers, how they attack
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on blitzed And you can really see it on the tape,
just that mentality shift, how it's allowed players to play
more freely, more confidently, and just with that level of
aggression that I don't think we ever really saw under
Brandon Staley.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Well, speaking of love of aggression, I'm used to hearing
Joey Bosa's name as far as being a very intimidating
edge rusher, But it just seems as though things are
kind of shifted in a different direction. Like only two
sacks on the season, I think one was against the
Raiders and the other against the Carolina Panthers. Well, other
than injury, right, and I know Inrey plays a huge
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road and how the pactful guy can be. What it
seems to be the issue with Joey Bosa.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, Well it's injuries. I mean, he played the whole
first game of the season, and then he was dealing
with a back issue that limited the fourteenth snaps against
the Panthers. On the very first play of the Steelers game,
he suffered a hip injury that knocked him out of
that game, and then he didn't play in the Chiefs game.
So when you're talking about production specifically, it's entirely related
to injuries for him this season. He had a hand
injury in training camp that needs surgery on, then the back,
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now the hip. But if you go watch the tape
from that Raiders game, that was one of the best
games that I've ever seen Joey Bosa play. And it
wasn't just the way he was rushing or playing to run.
It was the effort level which that absolutely jumped off
the tape. I mean, he was chasing down gardnermnshue to
the sideline, he was chasing him down up the middle.
The level of effort that he played with really showed
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me that he's turned a corner as far as prioritizing
winning over everything else, which is something that he's talked
about a lot. So the key right now is just
get him on the field like he hasn't been on
the field. Fourteen snaps against the Panthers, two snaps against
the Feelers, didn't play against the Chiefs. When he's been
on the field, he's been the Joey Bosa that you
know I've seen when he's been at his best. The
problem is the injuries that kept him off the field.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
All right, Daniel, we look at this thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, I'm pretty sure both these teams look at
this game as a winnable game, or at least started
the season looking at this game as a very winnable game.
As it's approaches us a little closer here this weekend,
how are you feeling? What's your confidence level for the
Chargers this weekend? And you know, what is the key
for them to be able to pull off a win
versus Denver doing the same?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah? So, I think defensively, I feel pretty confident in
what the Chargers are able to do. I think jesse
Mentor is the real deal, and I think they're going
to be able to go out and play good defense on.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
A week to week basis.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Offensively, they were hands frum by penalties against the Chiefs.
They had eight offensive penalties. They were behind the sticks
and they really got into these disadvantage this advantageous downs
and distances. So I think they need to be able
to be more efficient on early downs and avoid you know,
those past rushing situations because I went, I went and
looked at Jack Allen film in the first five weeks
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of the season and oh my god, like that guy
is playing out of his mind. And if there is
a weakness here for the Chargers up front, even when
they get a little bit healthier, it is that interior.
You would likely have you know, Jamari sallyar In at guard,
and that's the place that Zack Allen could absolutely attack
if they do get into some of these certain longs
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where he can pin his ears back and get out
of the quarterbacks. So defensively, I feel like they're gonna
be able to play the defense offensively. It can be
all about early down efficiency and being able to get
yourself into advantageous downs and distance to avoid you know,
letting Jack Allen really ruin the game.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Daniel Popper from the Athletic, we always appreciate you coming by.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You can be out here this weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Absolutely, I'll be there tomam.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Look forward to look forward to seeing you.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Then, sir and get a chance to chat with you
and see you.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
At the game.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
All right, guy, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
All right, take care Athletic always love having him come
on and talk about the Chargers here do the great,
great job they're covering them, and uh uh love Mobs
the insight on things you and I you know, over
the years, have had a chance to talk about a
variety of topics.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
One of those guys that'll give you the you know,
the straight, straight shooter.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We'll give you the straight truths about about it instead
of trying to hype hype something up. I think we're
underestimating the Chargers defense going into this game.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I hope that's not the case for the Denver Broncos,
especially with Daniel saying, okay, well it's not the Samuel Jr.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
He is expected to be out that with that shoulder injury.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
So if you're coach Payton, that gives you more opportunities
to take advantage of some young guys with the Chargers
in their secondary.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, and then they are a young a young secondary
and they are, uh, they are a banged up defense.
I just I think we're underestimating a little bit the
level of physicality that this this game's gonna have I
just do. And that's not to say that I don't
think that the Broncos won't win. I I do believe
the Broncos will win. But this is a very taxing
football team to play it us. Isn't the years before
we just at the box playing the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And beat them.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh? This is this is a team that's very physical.
They do want to punch you in the mouth. They
are playing for a lot of pride right now as
this they continue to build this thing and you know,
I don't want to look past it to a New
Orleans game on Thursday, especially a physical game on a
Sunday like that, and then going on the road on
a Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Just this next to next two games is tough defenses.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It's such defenses.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
But at the same time, the whole idea is that
because the Charges have been banged up and they've been
so physical, now you just anticify the physicality from the
run standpoint if you to different Broncos.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, looking forward, Ryan Harrise going to join us next
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Speaker 2 (16:53):
Does this thing just add water? Is that what makes
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Speaker 7 (16:55):
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Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, the chances aren't expired two years ago, who knows,
But I'm trying to trying to make sure that we
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quit making those, so it's like.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
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and then they don't replace.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
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Country and night bets.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But all right, Nick Ferguson, that was excuse me, Grant Smith,
and we get zexy.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I know I'm dying zax seeders as well. It's gonna
be a terrible segment already with my dry throat, what are.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
We gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Anyway? Let's pick some games for this weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Starting off in funny London Town, the reeling Jaguars take
on the suddenly surging Chicago Bears. Bears favored by one
seventy nine percent of bets, fifty eight percent of money
on the Bears in this one. Over under started forty seven,
drop to forty four and a half seventy nine percent
of bets, sixty six percent of Bears on the over
in this one. I like the Bears, even though it's
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a pseudo home game in London for the Jags.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's say you, mister Ferguson.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I'm gonna take the Bears in years. Why the Andre Swift?
He was the butt of everyone's jelt at the beginning
of the season, but he put two back to back
one hundred yard games together.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
The Bears get it done.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Over to the UK It the Bears.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
The Chicks are an absolute mess right now. I just
don't trust them at all. Yeah, backs against the wall.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Jags in their second home stadium. Give me the Jags
to get things right?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Here?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Are you a shod con?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Say?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Mustache club? Is that what this is about?
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Hey, he's got a glorious Eparatelet Commander's.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Taking on the Ravens and what expects to be one
of the most fun games of the week.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I guess I should say six and a half points
seven points, depending on where your shoping the line. Fifty
seven percent of bets are all the Commanders, fifty nine
percent of bet money is on the Ravens in this
when everybody's on the over, which started at forty six
and a half is all the way up to fifty
two and seventy three percent of bets are still on
the over.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
In that one. Much as I have.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
A soft spot in my heart for the bald man
that is dan Quinn and loving the Commanders in this one,
I think that even their offense is going to be
stymied by the Ravens in this one. And I'm going
to take the home team, Baltimore Ravens and probably upsetting
our guy coach Pagatto.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, even though I think Jane Daniss before admonably over
the past couple of weeks, I can't help but goal
with Derrick Henry and look at what he's been able
to do into opposing defenses. And usually you have to
worry about Lamar running the ball. Now you have to
worry about Derrick Henry puts you in the face literally
and figuratively.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I'm concerned because I'm here on the Ravens too. I
just I don't think Jane Daniels has seen a test
like this defense composed to him, and that Ravens offense
is hitting its stride right now.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, clean sweep for the Ravens. You need to change
my vote. Apparently can't have these queen sweeps. It's bad juju.
Texans taking all the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Patriots Rominderry Stevenson running back is out, but Drake may
going to be starting his first game for the Patriots.
I might have held off for a maybe a little
bit easier opponent for my rookie instead of putting in
the teeth of the Teesch defense.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This one started five and a half. It's out the
mice seven right now.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Eighty three percent of bets eighty two percent of money
on the Texans in this one. The over under at
forty four dropped from excuse me from forty four to
thirty seven and a half. Eighty percent of bets, seventy
three percent of audy on you over in this one.
I like the Houston Texans to play spoiler at home
to Drake Maj's debut.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Boss you, I'm right there with you. And here's why.
Because Nicocollins was placed on ir and the guy that
was fantastic last year that we didn't see I haven't
seen all year long as tank Down.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This would be a great game for him to have.
What dare I say, I'll breakout game for tank Down.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I got the Patriots covering in this one. I think
it's it's a rough matchup from the Texans are a
great team, but that offense isn't disarray right now. And
Drake May's getting this start because he's the best quarterback
on the roster.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, welcome to the team, Zach, but you are wrong.
Go Texans.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Browns take it on the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
This one started all Browns plus three is all the
way out to plus nine and a half. If you're
a Browns fan of Eagles, lay at nine seventy percent
of bet sixty nine percent.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Of money on the Eagles in this one.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Started off forty five and a half over under down
to forty two and a half, eighty one percent of bet,
sixty seven percent of money on the over in this one.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I am absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
All over the Eagles in this one, Deshaun Watson has
looked abysmal, and the votes of confidence or whatever they're
putting out there haven't exactly been great. From from Kevin Stefanski,
Deshaun Watson is our quarterback is technically a factual statement.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Doesn't really sound like it's oozing support.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Well, the fact that you're going to get two of
your premier receivers back in Devonte Smith and A. J.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Brown.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
This is different than what we saw the Eagles do
against him a big Buccaneers when they couldn't muster anything,
and then once again you plan against the doodoo Browns.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
So honestly, I'm going.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
With the Eagles, and this Brown's defense is a lot
more vulnerable this year. Yeah, that Deshaun Watson contracts looking
covert to swallow than Bennis dry Cine.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think now you're getting the speed of it. I
like the Eagles to win, but I like the Browns
to cover.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Okay, I'll hear.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
You on that. You guys see that meme out there this.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Week, the evolution of the the recycled bin like the
computer iconography where it showed like the original recycle bin
like a thing, and they kept showing the updated icons
and then the last one was just a Cleveland browns helmet.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Colts take it on the Texans.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Colts started off one and a half point favorites. Now
they're two and a half point dogs, eighty three percent
of bets, eighty one percent of money. The Colts in
this one over under started forty five and a half,
dropped forty two and a half, eighty six percent of bets,
seventy nine percent of money on the over. Will Levis
supposedly coming back for this game. Wacko for Flacco, though,
call me, I'm taking the.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Colts on the road.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Well, I thought Anthony Richardson was supposed to be coming
betty with us too, but I could be received well yeah,
oh listen. If it's joy Butter Flacco, I'm gonna take
the Colts. If it's Anthony Richison, I'm gonna take the Colts.
So at the end of the day, Will Levis and
not I'm taking a freaking Colts.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, you're giving me points here, and I to bet
against the most disastrous quarterback in the league right now
or most cursed.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Gladly do that give me the Colts.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
I'm gonna go a step further with Knicks comments. I
think if it's Flacco, the Colts win. I think if
it's Richardson, the Titans win.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh wow, wow, wow. Grant's a hater.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Show me right, Van, you're from the show me state.
I need Anthony Richardson to show me.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
He can win.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
So I'm also basically a syth so your hate sustains me.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Let's move on Cardinals at the Packers.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
This game line really has a move stordered all five
five and a half now sixty one percent of bet
sixty three percent of money.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
On the Cardinals plus five and a half.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
However, on the money line, Packers getting seventy eight percent
of the bets over under forty seven seventy four percent
of the bet sixty eight percent of money on the
over in this one. Cardinals have a way is showing
up for the games you don't think they will and
then playing an egg in the games you do think
they will win.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'm gonna go ahead and go against my better judgment.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I'm gonna bet on love in this one, even though
I'm a hateful guy, and take the Packers.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Go ahead, for God, because you don't believe in Love periods,
so that that is your almibi.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But I'm gonna go with the Packers, even though Joe.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Love in his three games and throwing four interceptions, and
he's right up there at four as far as interception snow.
But here is the get out of Jeffrey Carr for
the Packers, Joss freaking Jacobs.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So to turn around handing the ball to Jacobs. He
in the ball game.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, Ben hit the nail on the head. This Cardinal's
team is so inconsistent. I think last week they hit
a high. This week they're bound to hit a low.
Especially you got Arizona team traveling up north to Lambo.
That doesn't bode well.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
I picked him in the upset last week. I'm picking
him again. Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Baby Grant Smith believes in John gannon Bucks at the Saints.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Tampa base three and a half point favorites in this one.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
After starting is one and a half point dogs, seventy
one percent of bet seventy eight percent of money on
Tampa in this one over under started forty three, dropped
to forty one and a half, eighty three.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Percent of bet seventy two percent.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Of money on the over on the money line ninety
three percent of money on the Bucks in this one.
I think a large portion of that he is the
Saints starting Spencer Rattler. Look, I believe I'm here to
get snake bit, but I can't bet on the Ratler
in this one.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm taking Baker Mayfield the Bucks.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Okay, I'm gonna go with Baker two as well, because
even though Spinds will perform well in the preseason, I
still don't think he developed that chemistry. He can take
the ball down the field in the very who passing game,
But I think Todd Bowles is gonna have something special
for the Rattler.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, give me the Bucks.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I think those first two weeks from the Saints for
fools gold and now they're down there starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I'm a believer in the Bucks as well.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
I just think it shows you how good our Broncos
can be, and the Bucks need this win to stay
pace with it the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So I like the Bucks in this one. Steelers taking
on the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The Steelers started off minus one there minus three, now
seventy percent of bet seventy four percent of money on
the Steelers over under, started forty two, dropped to thirty
six and a half ninety percent of the best sixty
percent of money in the over in this one.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
On the money line, everybody's on the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Raiders switching quarterbacks from mivinshew and O'Connell Steelers, who knows
they might be they switching quarterbacks in the middle of
this game, the way Justin Field's been playing lately. I'm
not a believer in Justin Fields. Missus Field's cookies, strawberry
Fields forever, whatever. Let's let Russ cook in this one.
I'm hoping he gets in there. I'm taking the Steelers,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I'm gonna take the Steelers in this one too as well,
because I the Rates is in total disarray, so much
so that I want to swap out my fantasy defense
and just pick up the Steelers defense just for this.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Just whoever's playing the Raiders a screaming whoever's playing the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Yeah, they're swapping quarterbacks. You talked about maybe the Steelers
doing that. The Raiders are already at that level of dysfunction.
And Steelers got the better starting quarterback out there right now, so.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Keep that rolling.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Yeah, And Steelers find ways to win ugly games and
I think this one's gonna be ugly, and I think
the Steelers win.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
All right, Chargers taking on the Broncos. We'll come back
to that when Lions take it on the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Detroit started off plus one, there minus three and noalys
to five percent of bets, fifty five percent of money
on the Lions over under started forty eight and a
half out to fifty two and a half, and everything's
on the over in this one.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I'm tough with this one.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
If this was in Detroit, had absolutely go Detroit. I
waffled a little bit, wound up coming back to Detroit
even though it's in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
And I can understand the confusion because Dallas was able
to squeak out a game because it's still a last
week in dramatic fashion, and some of Dallas Cowboys fans
think that they can do it again. But it's something
special about this Lions team and the way they're coach
and the way their players actually respond.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I'm gonna go with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Give me the Lions.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I think they're one of the best teams, maybe the
best team in the NFC, and I think they can
present a lot of tu problems to a Cowboys offense
that seems to be in disarray.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I have no idea how this game is gonna play out.
I'm with you, Ben. If it was in Detroit, I
think it's an easy Lions win. But I'm gonna go
with the home team Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Falcons taking on the Panthers. Falcons were three and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Point favorites, so all the way up to six points
now eighty nine percent of bets, ninety three percent of
money on the Falcons over under start of forty four
up to forty seven best, seventy seven percent of money
on the over in this one. Panthers the home team
in this, but I don't expect them to get it done.
They had the one game bump with Andy Dalton. They've
been reeling back ever since. Give me the Falcons in
our roll.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
We see after the Cardinals we're gonna get a bump
with the red rifle coming in. And I mean it
hasn't really translate into other games where he was able
to give some of his Minshew magic and Kirk Cousins.
Like I said, he's a volume passer and he is
one of the top quarterbacks in the league when.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Not under precious. So I'm gonna go to the Falcons
in this one. I'm going Falcons the Panthers. If they
don't get blown out in a week, it's an accomplishment.
And Falcons seem to be hitting their stride. Give me,
give me Kirk co chains, Kirk Coo Chains, I love it,
you like it, I like it. Give me the Falcons.
All of you guys hate people named Dave Tepper.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I see how that is. Bengals taking on the Giants.
Bengals been reeling this season. They just haven't figured out that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
They did get the passing game finally clicking, but ran
up against the buzz saw that is the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
The Giants have been kind of sneaky with the offense.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
They keep Angel Jones, you keep him protected, and they
got a little something going on there. Bengals started all
five and a half or three and a half now
as lines going the other way where you'd think it
win eighty five percent of bets. However, ninety percent of
money on the Bengals over understarted forty five up to
forty seven. Most of the money there on the over.
You know this is tough Giants at home. Man, there's
a part of me that wants to bet this. I'm
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gona ahead take the Bengals just because I think they
needed But the Giants.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Have been playing teams really well.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Well.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
The reason they've been playing teams well is because the
Rocky sensation Elik Nighbors was out. But he's out with concussion.
So where's Daniel Jones going to go and tell situations?
That's absolutely nowhere. I'm gonna go with Grant and his Bengals.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
I think last week we saw that Giants defense finally
come to life. I think they've got this one this week.
They're dang good team. They give me the Giants, all.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Right, you can just leave now, Sack. Come on, man,
the Bengals and there's this game. I will say Giants.
Big win last week against the Seahawks. Bengals keep getting
in their own way. They should have won that game
last week against the Ravens. Joe Burr Man, he's slaying
the ball around. His wrist looks healthy. Giving me the Bengals, Let's.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Hope they don't find another way to snatch defeat from
the jaws of him.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
At victory Bills Jets on Monday Night the Bills to
a half point favorites.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
In this one, sixty four percent of bets are all
the Bills, but fifty one percent of money's on the Jets.
In this one, forty seven and a half was the
over under all the way down to forty. Now in
this one, seventy nine percent of bets on the over
and that but the money split pretty even. Sharps are
going the opposite of the public in this one, taking
the Jets in the under on Monday Night. I like
the Bills, However, I'm with the public on that one.
The under maybe in play, but I'm with the I'm
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with the Bills on this one. Even on the road
at the Jets, I really.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Had to fight myself on this one because Olbri's coming
in with robis Ala being fire interim bump, right, you
always get that interim bump.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
The guys play well for him. I'm surprisingly I'm gonna
go with the Jets.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, I don't think they're gonna get that dead cat pounds.
Causalagis wasn't the problem. I think the problem is still
calling from inside the house, give me the Bills. I
think they walk away with this one. They're really they
need this one.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
I'm with Nick, This one mannerim coach bump is real
in the NFL. I think the Jets win this game.
And how about Josh Allen getting knocked out cold on
the field last week, coming back and couldn't find a
receiver the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't know if that lingers into this game. Either way,
I like the Jets.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm hoping it does it because my fantasy team, which
consists of first three picks Christian McCaffery, Josh Allen, a
Devin ah Chain, is reeling right now.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's look good for you. Yeah, just look at you
called the Slaughterhouse three Chargers taking on the Broncos Sunday
two oh five.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Game call here obviously on Koe, Dave Logan, Rick Lewis,
Susie Wargen and all of us doing all the pregame
stuff that you guys know and love. Chargers favored by
three in this one. Sixty four percent of bets, however,
on the Broncos. Fifty eight percent of money on the
Broncos over under forty three is where it started, dropped
to thirty five and a half.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Everybody's on the over eighty.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Nine percent seventy six percent of money on the over.
I like Denver to go ahead and win this one.
They don't have to cover anyth because they're getting three points.
The over under thirty five does seem a bit realistic.
I've looked at a twenty four seventeen, twenty three seven
team kind of game, but that might be a little
high scoring for what these two defenses bring to the table.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well, anytime you have PS two and x x one, yes,
two of the better corner tendems in the league, it
makes it really difficult.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
And you have fans freaking Broncos do Can we just.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Call the secondary of the game cube now and be
done with it?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Or no, we're not doing.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Okay, give me the Broncos. I think they keep it rolling.
This defense is playing with their hair on fire. And
if you look at the Chargers when they're not playing
quarterbacks that have now been benched, they look a lot
more mediocre.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh and two even so give me the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I like the Broncos too.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
This Broncos defense is playing top of the league, and
bo Nicks looked like he figured something out last week
in the second half. I think the game is starting
to finally slow down for him a little bit. I
like the Broncos and I'll give you my score. I
think Broncos win twenty seven to seventeen. Wow, you think
they score a lot on that CHARGERSA. I think we
may get another defensive touchdown.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Then you believe, believe, be over and Bowlie. You know
it's yeah, he did figure something out last week and
that's the Raiders suck.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But beyond that, I I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
We'll have to see, We'll have to see what what
goes on, uh this weekend. I think it's gonna be
a tough, physical football game.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I do worry a little bit. I do have the
Broncos pick, but I do worry a little bit. We're
sleeping on how physical this football team is under Jim Harba.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
We come back. We got the NFL six pack next
the Broncos Country.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I can't wait
Well the do it Broncos country tonight. But with all
Brian Dick, Ferguson, Grant Smith, we go right out to
the KWA Common Spirraul hotline and bring our guy on
the athletic Daniel Popward, Daniel, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I being great?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks for having me, absolutely always love having you all.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We get a chance to take on the Chargers and
kind of preview that news coming down today. Gus Edwards
out not really I don't think surprising to a lot
of people. But who is going to take over his
place in that secondary running back role? Is that going
to be Vidals Todd Haskins? Who are we going to
see complimenting JK. Dobbins, who's gotten out to a red
heart's red hot start this season for the Chargers, A
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little much of the offense there has not necessarily been
red hot.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, I think you so early on the season you
service you have fifty split between Dobbins and Edwards. I
would imagine you're going to see sort of an uptick
in the number of touches for Dobbins with Edward datas
he sort of takes on like a really RB one
role versus sort of a you know, a committee back there.
And then obviously you mentioned the two other guys options
there with with Haskins and Kamanie Videll. Interesting with Vidout,
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he hasn't been active yet this season, obviously the six
round pick. He showed some interesting things in the preseason.
So I imagine you're sort of see Hassan Hopkins and
buy Out both get touches there. And as Greg Gruman
had sort of said, the offensive coordinator for the Chargers
obviously throughout this process like they're going to be that,
and so I think Dobbins probably moves into more of
a clear cut running back one role and then both
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of those guys I assume will get touches and if
they start making plays and then Roman will certainly see them.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Dan, you and we will get the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
The first two week at the season, they were flying
high and everyone was really optimistic.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Over the past two.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Weeks, not so much, and with the team battling some
some injuries. D J seank he's not back. How is
it that coach Harbor and Justin Herbert muster offensive production
against the Denver Broncos defense who've been playing pretty well
this season?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I mean a lot of the how the beginning
of the season went was sort of like, you know,
you're opponents, right. You have the Raiders and the Panthers,
two teams that aren't very good, and they handle business
against those teams, and then you have the Steelers and
the Chiefs too much better teams and they came out short.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You mentioned the injuries. I think you know, having a
bye week at this point is going to be really
helpful for some of these injuries they're dealing with. Joe Alt,
there standout rookie right tackle, missed the Week four game
against the Chiefs with an MCL sprain. He was back
in practice this week and he was off the injury report,
so getting him back at tackle is going to be huge.
They've also been without Rashaun Slater and losing you know,
your two tackles is going to be difficult. They had
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to move a bunch of pieces around. They had a
practice squad guy, and Sam Mustaf started right guard for
them against the Chiefs. So getting Joe All back in
there will be key. You know, even if Rashaun Slater
is unable to play, he's he's questionable for the game
at least, you know, you'll you won't be turning to
practice squad guys in the offensive line, so you expect
a little bit better pass protectionion, better better run blocking
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with with Joe alt back in there, and fewer moving pieces.
And obviously the other part of this too is Justin
Herberston dealing with the high ankle sprain. He has an
other week to get healthier. He comes off the injury
report today. It's the first time he's actually been off
the report and hasn't been questionable since he suffered that
high ankle strain. If he's moving better, that allows you
to get deeper into the playbook, some more boots stuff,
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quarterback movement stuff, and then obviously, you know, out of structure,
if Justin Herbert can move around a little bit better,
you know, you would expect him to be able to
make plays out of structure on the move off script,
and obviously he's one of the best in the league
of doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Broncos fans familiar with Sam Mustafer was on the you know,
the training camp roster here for the Broncos, unable to crack.
He was trying to be the center. He's unable to
crack the roster with Forsyth And and Wattenburg. Wattenberg, of
course hurt and is out for this game. As we
look at the Chargers offense again, it feels like.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That this has been a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Of a disjointed sort of effort. It feels like it's
been something that's it really just hasn't quite come together
yet with Greg Rohlman trying to figure out what it
is that that he and Justin Herbert the magic they
can make together.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, it's a bright spot.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, Quentin Johnson does seem to have improved, not
that it could have gotten much worse than he was
last year, but he's gotten better. You know, he looks
like he's got better. Lad McConkey looks like he's gonna
be something this league. Josh Palmers looked all right, and
then of course you get the tight ends at Hurst
and Distey would looked like something.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Dobbins averaging absurd six yards of carry.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Uh. At this point, you know, you look at the
offensive line of healthy, you know, the Charger for you
to be something you mentioned Ray Shawn Slater of course
his godfather's are you know, you know, a guy in
their sales department here, Jeff Johnson they've they've got some
they've got some pieces there, but it just feels to
me like it hasn't quite come together yet.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, I think you make a good point. You know,
a lot of this early part of the season, I
feel like has been about establishing an identity. You bring
in Jim Harbaugh as your head coach, you bring in
Greg Roman as your offensive coordinator. There's a way that
they want to play, and it's it's bigger and broader
than schematics, right, It's about a philosophy of like when
a team sees the Chargers on the schedule, they want
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to know that they're in for a long day. And
what you have to establish is a level of physicality
up front. You have to establish the ability to run
the ball, the threat to run the ball. That's how
these guys want to play football. And so early on
in the season you've seen a heavy lead into the
running game, you know. I you know, obviously I've dove
into the statistics, like they lead the league and designed
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rush rate they're at forty nine point three percent overall.
What I like to do, and this is something that
my colleague Mike Sando sort of invented at the athletic.
He calls it the Cook index. But you sort of
look at the first twenty eight minutes of the first
of the of a game, in the first half, first
and second downs in the first twenty eight minutes, when
score isn't really dictating how much you run the ball.
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In those situations, the Chargers are running it over fifty
seven percent of the time. So they've really tried to
establish this identity and what that led to is obviously
less production from Justin Herbert. And now you're sort of
through that phase, you're through the quarter pole of the season.
You've established that identity to a degree. At times. I
think the Panthers game was a really good example of
what they could be in the running game, and it's
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sort of fallen off because of injuries. But now that
you sort of establish that mentality, you've shown that you're
going to call runs consistently and try and try and
build that part of the offense. What can you do
now that you're coming out of the buy and maybe
try and turn that dial up a little bit in
the passing game and allow Justin Herbert to air it out.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A little bit more.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And so that's sort of what I'm looking at I
think they've established what they want to be. I think
you'd be talking to the guys in the locker room. There's
a clear cut identity of what they want to be
upfront and how they want to be offensively. And now
I think you can start turning the dials a little
bit more to maybe get some more out of the
passing game and out of Justin Herberts right on.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
So I'm looking at the injury report and find an
injury report of the week, and I'm saying Shrek Taylor
and a Sante Samuel Jr.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Are expected to.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Be out at least that's kind of the game status
at this particular point. How does this change what Jesse mentored,
the defensive coordinator, wants to do coming into this game
against the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, so both those guys have been ruled out. Jaee
Taylor actually missed the Week four game. He's dealing with
a fibular injury that he suffered in Week one. Their
rookie Tarkie Still they drafted in the fifth round at
A Maryland, actually played really well at nickel in place
of Jair Taylor. Last week, Sama Junior. He was a
full participant on Thursday and was out of practice on Friday.
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He had some sort of setback with that shoulder injury,
and so the question is who's going to start at
outside corner. I think they're pretty comfortable with Hard, he's
still at nickel. The other spot, it could be Dean Leonard,
who's but he's also dealing with a hamstring injury that
kept him out of the Week four game. The next
guy up would be Cam Hart, another rookie that they
drafted in the fifth round. Tremendous size and lengths on
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the outside at six foot three corner, and he's a
guy that could potentially be slotting in there. He's been
playing some special teams as sort as their personal protector
on punt and so you're looking at some moving pieces
there in the secondary. But they've kind of been dealing
with pieces throughout this season. Derwin James missed a game
because of the suspension. Safety Alohi Gilman, their other starting safety,
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missed the game with a knee injury. And I think
what Jesse Minterer are sort of proving here is that
he's done a really good job of cross training these guys,
and he does a really good job of having these
young players ready to step in and in that Chiefs game,
you know they're down Derwin James, they were down just
here Taylor, and they still got to a lot of
complexity on the back end in terms of what they
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were calling, the variety of coverages, the disguises, some of
the third down calls, in terms of how they were
trying to attack pactice mahomes with blitzes and simulated pressures.
So I still think regardless of who's in there, you're
going to see some complexity from Jesse Minter. The question
is are the players coming in there that end up
starting are they to be ready to execute it?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, yeah, that is the question. To date, they've done
a very good job.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, the Chargers are extremely underrated defense nationally, at
least in terms of the amount of buzz that they get.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I think everybody can look at the numbers and see
what they've been able to do.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But it feels like that this is a very physical
defense that has has not gotten its flowers in terms
of what they've been able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Philosophically, things have changed.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
A little bit from what they used to be under
Brandon Staley, and I think Denver world familiar with the
Vic Fangiel blueprint, which is sort of what Staley ran
there as well. You can see how the Broncos have
shifted away with that with Vance Joseph running something more
akin to what Wade Phillips used to run. What are
the differences there in LA with what it is that
they're doing versus what they used to do with a
sort of VIC blueprint under Staley.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, I think the biggest difference is the level of
physicality that you just mentioned that even even attribute that
to Jim Harbaugh. There's just like a standard of how
you have to play on both sides of the ball
to get on the field for Jim Harbaugh, and so
that's really shown up in the running game. Like that's
been the biggest difference. I know how many conversations that
we had been over the years under Staley where it
was just like what's going on with this run defense?
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It was every year that couldn't really.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Stop the run.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And what you've gotten this year as a team that's
way more physical. And the guy I would point to
that's really made the difference in the run defense is
Pune of four, who was really an afterthought in Buffalo
last season. He was inactive for most of the season
healthy scratch, he only played eight games with Chargers identified
him as a guy with potentially something to prove, and
he's been a real force in the middle of the
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defensive line, really like a pure nose tackle, just the
ability to take on double teams, create penetration, and just
be that rock in the center of the defensive line.
And I think what you've seen is the physicality of
the players around Puneiford has really been elevated as a
result because he's just so stout in there. So you
see Denzel Perryman another edition that they made this offseason,
Dan Henley, the two linebackers really able to tack downhill.
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Your edge rushers are able to make more plays in
the ball because of that stoutness in the interior. So
the running game has improved. It's put them in more
advantageous situations. In terms of like coverage split, there hasn't
been too much of a change. They're playing way less
cover six, the less quarter quarter half that was a
big stay staple, but they're actually their most played coverage
is quarters coverage, which is obviously like a staple of
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the Fangio scheme. But I think like it's more of
a mentality shift. I think the Fangio scheme and the
daily idea is to you know, play more passively allowed
dink and dunks and just sort of wait for the mistake.
I think the mentality of this defense is play downhill,
play with physicality, and allow players to be aggressive in
terms of how they attack ball carriers, how they attack
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on blitzed And you can really see it on the tape,
just that mentality shift, how it's allowed players to play
more freely, more confidently, and just with that level of
aggression that I don't think we ever really saw under
Brandon Staley.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Well, speaking of love of aggression, I'm used to hearing
Joey Bosa's name as far as being a very intimidating
edge rusher, But it just seems as though things are
kind of shifted in a different direction. Like only two
sacks on the season, I think one was against the
Raiders and the other against the Carolina Panthers. Well, other
than injury, right, and I know Inrey plays a huge
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road and how the pactful guy can be. What it
seems to be the issue with Joey Bosa.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, Well it's injuries. I mean, he played the whole
first game of the season, and then he was dealing
with a back issue that limited the fourteenth snaps against
the Panthers. On the very first play of the Steelers game,
he suffered a hip injury that knocked him out of
that game, and then he didn't play in the Chiefs game.
So when you're talking about production specifically, it's entirely related
to injuries for him this season. He had a hand
injury in training camp that needs surgery on, then the back,
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now the hip. But if you go watch the tape
from that Raiders game, that was one of the best
games that I've ever seen Joey Bosa play. And it
wasn't just the way he was rushing or playing to run.
It was the effort level which that absolutely jumped off
the tape. I mean, he was chasing down gardnermnshue to
the sideline, he was chasing him down up the middle.
The level of effort that he played with really showed
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me that he's turned a corner as far as prioritizing
winning over everything else, which is something that he's talked
about a lot. So the key right now is just
get him on the field like he hasn't been on
the field. Fourteen snaps against the Panthers, two snaps against
the Feelers, didn't play against the Chiefs. When he's been
on the field, he's been the Joey Bosa that you
know I've seen when he's been at his best. The
problem is the injuries that kept him off the field.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
All right, Daniel, we look at this thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, I'm pretty sure both these teams look at
this game as a winnable game, or at least started
the season looking at this game as a very winnable game.
As it's approaches us a little closer here this weekend,
how are you feeling? What's your confidence level for the
Chargers this weekend? And you know, what is the key
for them to be able to pull off a win
versus Denver doing the same?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah? So, I think defensively, I feel pretty confident in
what the Chargers are able to do. I think jesse
Mentor is the real deal, and I think they're going
to be able to go out and play good defense on.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
A week to week basis.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Offensively, they were hands frum by penalties against the Chiefs.
They had eight offensive penalties. They were behind the sticks
and they really got into these disadvantage this advantageous downs
and distances. So I think they need to be able
to be more efficient on early downs and avoid you know,
those past rushing situations because I went, I went and
looked at Jack Allen film in the first five weeks
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of the season and oh my god, like that guy
is playing out of his mind. And if there is
a weakness here for the Chargers up front, even when
they get a little bit healthier, it is that interior.
You would likely have you know, Jamari sallyar In at guard,
and that's the place that Zack Allen could absolutely attack
if they do get into some of these certain longs
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where he can pin his ears back and get out
of the quarterbacks. So defensively, I feel like they're gonna
be able to play the defense offensively. It can be
all about early down efficiency and being able to get
yourself into advantageous downs and distance to avoid you know,
letting Jack Allen really ruin the game.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Daniel Popper from the Athletic, we always appreciate you coming by.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You can be out here this weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Absolutely, I'll be there tomam.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Look forward to look forward to seeing you.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Then, sir and get a chance to chat with you
and see you.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
At the game.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
All right, guy, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
All right, take care Athletic always love having him come
on and talk about the Chargers here do the great,
great job they're covering them, and uh uh love Mobs
the insight on things you and I you know, over
the years, have had a chance to talk about a
variety of topics.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
One of those guys that'll give you the you know,
the straight, straight shooter.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We'll give you the straight truths about about it instead
of trying to hype hype something up. I think we're
underestimating the Chargers defense going into this game.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I hope that's not the case for the Denver Broncos,
especially with Daniel saying, okay, well it's not the Samuel Jr.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
He is expected to be out that with that shoulder injury.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
So if you're coach Payton, that gives you more opportunities
to take advantage of some young guys with the Chargers
in their secondary.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, and then they are a young a young secondary
and they are, uh, they are a banged up defense.
I just I think we're underestimating a little bit the
level of physicality that this this game's gonna have I
just do. And that's not to say that I don't
think that the Broncos won't win. I I do believe
the Broncos will win. But this is a very taxing
football team to play it us. Isn't the years before
we just at the box playing the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And beat them.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh? This is this is a team that's very physical.
They do want to punch you in the mouth. They
are playing for a lot of pride right now as
this they continue to build this thing and you know,
I don't want to look past it to a New
Orleans game on Thursday, especially a physical game on a
Sunday like that, and then going on the road on
a Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Just this next to next two games is tough defenses.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It's such defenses.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
But at the same time, the whole idea is that
because the Charges have been banged up and they've been
so physical, now you just anticify the physicality from the
run standpoint if you to different Broncos.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, looking forward, Ryan Harrise going to join us next
Broncos Counry Net rolls on as this welcome back to
it Broncos Country Tonight. Benjamin O Albright, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith,
here with you big Texas cinnamon role here. I tried
to eat this thing, and I think I'm dehydrated now
as I'm trying to try to drink some water to uh.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Does this thing just add water? Is that what makes
the cinnamon roll go?
Speaker 7 (16:55):
I just wonder how long that thing's been in the
vending machine before you ate it, before I ate it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, the chances aren't expired two years ago, who knows,
But I'm trying to trying to make sure that we
get new foods. And then we did get those stroop
waffles in there for a while, but they quit, they
quit making those, so it's like.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
All the good stuff is here like one time, right,
and then they don't replace.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's because they hate me. I see whether it is fine?
Six six nine yeer ols text line. You listen Rockus
Country and night bets.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But all right, Nick Ferguson, that was excuse me, Grant Smith,
and we get zexy.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I know I'm dying zax seeders as well. It's gonna
be a terrible segment already with my dry throat, what are.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
We gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Anyway? Let's pick some games for this weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Starting off in funny London Town, the reeling Jaguars take
on the suddenly surging Chicago Bears. Bears favored by one
seventy nine percent of bets, fifty eight percent of money
on the Bears in this one. Over under started forty seven,
drop to forty four and a half seventy nine percent
of bets, sixty six percent of Bears on the over
in this one. I like the Bears, even though it's
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a pseudo home game in London for the Jags.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's say you, mister Ferguson.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I'm gonna take the Bears in years. Why the Andre Swift?
He was the butt of everyone's jelt at the beginning
of the season, but he put two back to back
one hundred yard games together.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
The Bears get it done.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Over to the UK It the Bears.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
The Chicks are an absolute mess right now. I just
don't trust them at all. Yeah, backs against the wall.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Jags in their second home stadium. Give me the Jags
to get things right?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Here?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Are you a shod con?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Say?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Mustache club? Is that what this is about?
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Hey, he's got a glorious Eparatelet Commander's.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Taking on the Ravens and what expects to be one
of the most fun games of the week.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I guess I should say six and a half points
seven points, depending on where your shoping the line. Fifty
seven percent of bets are all the Commanders, fifty nine
percent of bet money is on the Ravens in this
when everybody's on the over, which started at forty six
and a half is all the way up to fifty
two and seventy three percent of bets are still on
the over.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
In that one. Much as I have.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
A soft spot in my heart for the bald man
that is dan Quinn and loving the Commanders in this one,
I think that even their offense is going to be
stymied by the Ravens in this one. And I'm going
to take the home team, Baltimore Ravens and probably upsetting
our guy coach Pagatto.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, even though I think Jane Daniss before admonably over
the past couple of weeks, I can't help but goal
with Derrick Henry and look at what he's been able
to do into opposing defenses. And usually you have to
worry about Lamar running the ball. Now you have to
worry about Derrick Henry puts you in the face literally
and figuratively.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I'm concerned because I'm here on the Ravens too. I
just I don't think Jane Daniels has seen a test
like this defense composed to him, and that Ravens offense
is hitting its stride right now.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, clean sweep for the Ravens. You need to change
my vote. Apparently can't have these queen sweeps. It's bad juju.
Texans taking all the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Patriots Rominderry Stevenson running back is out, but Drake may
going to be starting his first game for the Patriots.
I might have held off for a maybe a little
bit easier opponent for my rookie instead of putting in
the teeth of the Teesch defense.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This one started five and a half. It's out the
mice seven right now.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Eighty three percent of bets eighty two percent of money
on the Texans in this one. The over under at
forty four dropped from excuse me from forty four to
thirty seven and a half. Eighty percent of bets, seventy
three percent of audy on you over in this one.
I like the Houston Texans to play spoiler at home
to Drake Maj's debut.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Boss you, I'm right there with you. And here's why.
Because Nicocollins was placed on ir and the guy that
was fantastic last year that we didn't see I haven't
seen all year long as tank Down.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This would be a great game for him to have.
What dare I say, I'll breakout game for tank Down.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I got the Patriots covering in this one. I think
it's it's a rough matchup from the Texans are a
great team, but that offense isn't disarray right now. And
Drake May's getting this start because he's the best quarterback
on the roster.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, welcome to the team, Zach, but you are wrong.
Go Texans.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Browns take it on the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
This one started all Browns plus three is all the
way out to plus nine and a half. If you're
a Browns fan of Eagles, lay at nine seventy percent
of bet sixty nine percent.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Of money on the Eagles in this one.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Started off forty five and a half over under down
to forty two and a half, eighty one percent of bet,
sixty seven percent of money on the over in this one.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I am absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
All over the Eagles in this one, Deshaun Watson has
looked abysmal, and the votes of confidence or whatever they're
putting out there haven't exactly been great. From from Kevin Stefanski,
Deshaun Watson is our quarterback is technically a factual statement.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Doesn't really sound like it's oozing support.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Well, the fact that you're going to get two of
your premier receivers back in Devonte Smith and A. J.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Brown.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
This is different than what we saw the Eagles do
against him a big Buccaneers when they couldn't muster anything,
and then once again you plan against the doodoo Browns.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
So honestly, I'm going.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
With the Eagles, and this Brown's defense is a lot
more vulnerable this year. Yeah, that Deshaun Watson contracts looking
covert to swallow than Bennis dry Cine.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think now you're getting the speed of it. I
like the Eagles to win, but I like the Browns
to cover.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Okay, I'll hear.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
You on that. You guys see that meme out there this.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Week, the evolution of the the recycled bin like the
computer iconography where it showed like the original recycle bin
like a thing, and they kept showing the updated icons
and then the last one was just a Cleveland browns helmet.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Colts take it on the Texans.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Colts started off one and a half point favorites. Now
they're two and a half point dogs, eighty three percent
of bets, eighty one percent of money. The Colts in
this one over under started forty five and a half,
dropped forty two and a half, eighty six percent of bets,
seventy nine percent of money on the over. Will Levis
supposedly coming back for this game. Wacko for Flacco, though,
call me, I'm taking the.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Colts on the road.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Well, I thought Anthony Richardson was supposed to be coming
betty with us too, but I could be received well yeah,
oh listen. If it's joy Butter Flacco, I'm gonna take
the Colts. If it's Anthony Richison, I'm gonna take the Colts.
So at the end of the day, Will Levis and
not I'm taking a freaking Colts.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, you're giving me points here, and I to bet
against the most disastrous quarterback in the league right now
or most cursed.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Gladly do that give me the Colts.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
I'm gonna go a step further with Knicks comments. I
think if it's Flacco, the Colts win. I think if
it's Richardson, the Titans win.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh wow, wow, wow. Grant's a hater.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Show me right, Van, you're from the show me state.
I need Anthony Richardson to show me.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
He can win.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
So I'm also basically a syth so your hate sustains me.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Let's move on Cardinals at the Packers.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
This game line really has a move stordered all five
five and a half now sixty one percent of bet
sixty three percent of money.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
On the Cardinals plus five and a half.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
However, on the money line, Packers getting seventy eight percent
of the bets over under forty seven seventy four percent
of the bet sixty eight percent of money on the
over in this one. Cardinals have a way is showing
up for the games you don't think they will and
then playing an egg in the games you do think
they will win.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'm gonna go ahead and go against my better judgment.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I'm gonna bet on love in this one, even though
I'm a hateful guy, and take the Packers.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Go ahead, for God, because you don't believe in Love periods,
so that that is your almibi.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But I'm gonna go with the Packers, even though Joe.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Love in his three games and throwing four interceptions, and
he's right up there at four as far as interception snow.
But here is the get out of Jeffrey Carr for
the Packers, Joss freaking Jacobs.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So to turn around handing the ball to Jacobs. He
in the ball game.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, Ben hit the nail on the head. This Cardinal's
team is so inconsistent. I think last week they hit
a high. This week they're bound to hit a low.
Especially you got Arizona team traveling up north to Lambo.
That doesn't bode well.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
I picked him in the upset last week. I'm picking
him again. Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Baby Grant Smith believes in John gannon Bucks at the Saints.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Tampa base three and a half point favorites in this one.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
After starting is one and a half point dogs, seventy
one percent of bet seventy eight percent of money on
Tampa in this one over under started forty three, dropped
to forty one and a half, eighty three.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Percent of bet seventy two percent.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Of money on the over on the money line ninety
three percent of money on the Bucks in this one.
I think a large portion of that he is the
Saints starting Spencer Rattler. Look, I believe I'm here to
get snake bit, but I can't bet on the Ratler
in this one.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm taking Baker Mayfield the Bucks.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Okay, I'm gonna go with Baker two as well, because
even though Spinds will perform well in the preseason, I
still don't think he developed that chemistry. He can take
the ball down the field in the very who passing game,
But I think Todd Bowles is gonna have something special
for the Rattler.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, give me the Bucks.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I think those first two weeks from the Saints for
fools gold and now they're down there starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I'm a believer in the Bucks as well.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
I just think it shows you how good our Broncos
can be, and the Bucks need this win to stay
pace with it the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So I like the Bucks in this one. Steelers taking
on the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The Steelers started off minus one there minus three, now
seventy percent of bet seventy four percent of money on
the Steelers over under, started forty two, dropped to thirty
six and a half ninety percent of the best sixty
percent of money in the over in this one.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
On the money line, everybody's on the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Raiders switching quarterbacks from mivinshew and O'Connell Steelers, who knows
they might be they switching quarterbacks in the middle of
this game, the way Justin Field's been playing lately. I'm
not a believer in Justin Fields. Missus Field's cookies, strawberry
Fields forever, whatever. Let's let Russ cook in this one.
I'm hoping he gets in there. I'm taking the Steelers,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I'm gonna take the Steelers in this one too as well,
because I the Rates is in total disarray, so much
so that I want to swap out my fantasy defense
and just pick up the Steelers defense just for this.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Just whoever's playing the Raiders a screaming whoever's playing the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Yeah, they're swapping quarterbacks. You talked about maybe the Steelers
doing that. The Raiders are already at that level of dysfunction.
And Steelers got the better starting quarterback out there right now, so.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Keep that rolling.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Yeah, And Steelers find ways to win ugly games and
I think this one's gonna be ugly, and I think
the Steelers win.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
All right, Chargers taking on the Broncos. We'll come back
to that when Lions take it on the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Detroit started off plus one, there minus three and noalys
to five percent of bets, fifty five percent of money
on the Lions over under started forty eight and a
half out to fifty two and a half, and everything's
on the over in this one.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I'm tough with this one.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
If this was in Detroit, had absolutely go Detroit. I
waffled a little bit, wound up coming back to Detroit
even though it's in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
And I can understand the confusion because Dallas was able
to squeak out a game because it's still a last
week in dramatic fashion, and some of Dallas Cowboys fans
think that they can do it again. But it's something
special about this Lions team and the way they're coach
and the way their players actually respond.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I'm gonna go with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Give me the Lions.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I think they're one of the best teams, maybe the
best team in the NFC, and I think they can
present a lot of tu problems to a Cowboys offense
that seems to be in disarray.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I have no idea how this game is gonna play out.
I'm with you, Ben. If it was in Detroit, I
think it's an easy Lions win. But I'm gonna go
with the home team Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Falcons taking on the Panthers. Falcons were three and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Point favorites, so all the way up to six points
now eighty nine percent of bets, ninety three percent of
money on the Falcons over under start of forty four
up to forty seven best, seventy seven percent of money
on the over in this one. Panthers the home team
in this, but I don't expect them to get it done.
They had the one game bump with Andy Dalton. They've
been reeling back ever since. Give me the Falcons in
our roll.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
We see after the Cardinals we're gonna get a bump
with the red rifle coming in. And I mean it
hasn't really translate into other games where he was able
to give some of his Minshew magic and Kirk Cousins.
Like I said, he's a volume passer and he is
one of the top quarterbacks in the league when.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Not under precious. So I'm gonna go to the Falcons
in this one. I'm going Falcons the Panthers. If they
don't get blown out in a week, it's an accomplishment.
And Falcons seem to be hitting their stride. Give me,
give me Kirk co chains, Kirk Coo Chains, I love it,
you like it, I like it. Give me the Falcons.
All of you guys hate people named Dave Tepper.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I see how that is. Bengals taking on the Giants.
Bengals been reeling this season. They just haven't figured out that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
They did get the passing game finally clicking, but ran
up against the buzz saw that is the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
The Giants have been kind of sneaky with the offense.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
They keep Angel Jones, you keep him protected, and they
got a little something going on there. Bengals started all
five and a half or three and a half now
as lines going the other way where you'd think it
win eighty five percent of bets. However, ninety percent of
money on the Bengals over understarted forty five up to
forty seven. Most of the money there on the over.
You know this is tough Giants at home. Man, there's
a part of me that wants to bet this. I'm
(29:20):
gona ahead take the Bengals just because I think they
needed But the Giants.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Have been playing teams really well.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Well.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
The reason they've been playing teams well is because the
Rocky sensation Elik Nighbors was out. But he's out with concussion.
So where's Daniel Jones going to go and tell situations?
That's absolutely nowhere. I'm gonna go with Grant and his Bengals.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
I think last week we saw that Giants defense finally
come to life. I think they've got this one this week.
They're dang good team. They give me the Giants, all.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Right, you can just leave now, Sack. Come on, man,
the Bengals and there's this game. I will say Giants.
Big win last week against the Seahawks. Bengals keep getting
in their own way. They should have won that game
last week against the Ravens. Joe Burr Man, he's slaying
the ball around. His wrist looks healthy. Giving me the Bengals, Let's.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Hope they don't find another way to snatch defeat from
the jaws of him.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
At victory Bills Jets on Monday Night the Bills to
a half point favorites.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
In this one, sixty four percent of bets are all
the Bills, but fifty one percent of money's on the Jets.
In this one, forty seven and a half was the
over under all the way down to forty. Now in
this one, seventy nine percent of bets on the over
and that but the money split pretty even. Sharps are
going the opposite of the public in this one, taking
the Jets in the under on Monday Night. I like
the Bills, However, I'm with the public on that one.
The under maybe in play, but I'm with the I'm
(30:33):
with the Bills on this one. Even on the road
at the Jets, I really.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Had to fight myself on this one because Olbri's coming
in with robis Ala being fire interim bump, right, you
always get that interim bump.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
The guys play well for him. I'm surprisingly I'm gonna
go with the Jets.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, I don't think they're gonna get that dead cat pounds.
Causalagis wasn't the problem. I think the problem is still
calling from inside the house, give me the Bills. I
think they walk away with this one. They're really they
need this one.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
I'm with Nick, This one mannerim coach bump is real
in the NFL. I think the Jets win this game.
And how about Josh Allen getting knocked out cold on
the field last week, coming back and couldn't find a
receiver the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't know if that lingers into this game. Either way,
I like the Jets.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm hoping it does it because my fantasy team, which
consists of first three picks Christian McCaffery, Josh Allen, a
Devin ah Chain, is reeling right now.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's look good for you. Yeah, just look at you
called the Slaughterhouse three Chargers taking on the Broncos Sunday
two oh five.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Game call here obviously on Koe, Dave Logan, Rick Lewis,
Susie Wargen and all of us doing all the pregame
stuff that you guys know and love. Chargers favored by
three in this one. Sixty four percent of bets, however,
on the Broncos. Fifty eight percent of money on the
Broncos over under forty three is where it started, dropped
to thirty five and a half.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Everybody's on the over eighty.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Nine percent seventy six percent of money on the over.
I like Denver to go ahead and win this one.
They don't have to cover anyth because they're getting three points.
The over under thirty five does seem a bit realistic.
I've looked at a twenty four seventeen, twenty three seven
team kind of game, but that might be a little
high scoring for what these two defenses bring to the table.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well, anytime you have PS two and x x one, yes,
two of the better corner tendems in the league, it
makes it really difficult.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
And you have fans freaking Broncos do Can we just.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Call the secondary of the game cube now and be
done with it?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Or no, we're not doing.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Okay, give me the Broncos. I think they keep it rolling.
This defense is playing with their hair on fire. And
if you look at the Chargers when they're not playing
quarterbacks that have now been benched, they look a lot
more mediocre.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh and two even so give me the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I like the Broncos too.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
This Broncos defense is playing top of the league, and
bo Nicks looked like he figured something out last week
in the second half. I think the game is starting
to finally slow down for him a little bit. I
like the Broncos and I'll give you my score. I
think Broncos win twenty seven to seventeen. Wow, you think
they score a lot on that CHARGERSA. I think we
may get another defensive touchdown.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Then you believe, believe, be over and Bowlie. You know
it's yeah, he did figure something out last week and
that's the Raiders suck.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But beyond that, I I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
We'll have to see, We'll have to see what what
goes on, uh this weekend. I think it's gonna be
a tough, physical football game.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I do worry a little bit. I do have the
Broncos pick, but I do worry a little bit. We're
sleeping on how physical this football team is under Jim Harba.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
We come back. We got the NFL six pack next
the Broncos Country.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I can't wait
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