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October 13, 2025 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got several Texters already in here that are pready
to bend the knee.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
They understand.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I've been telling you for years that justin Fields was
how to be charitable about this awful and.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
You guys got to see it firsthand.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I think the worst part about that, though, is he
was epically terrible and we barely won that game. Like
if the Broncos had been playing literally any other quarterback,
we probably lose that game.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's how bad the situation was. And it wasn't It
was death by a thousand cuts.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It was the same thing Vic Fangio used to talk about,
little mistakes here and there that added up given free
field position early on to allow them to get a
couple of field goals instead of getting into a rhythm
that we'd already shut him down. It was playing way
too conservative in the second half. And I know I've
been telling Sean to put the brakes on a little
bit sometimes, but bro Va situational awareness.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Can't.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You can't flirt around with the Jets and then leaving
a one score football game. What are you doing running
his own read with a full back on third down
deep in the third quarter after slamming your half back
into the line for no game.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Did anyone to ask him about that play?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Cough?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Very curious? Yeah, how does that make sense in any situation?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I mean, I I there's a there's a you know,
there's an old joke about running the draw on third
eight plus. You know, but at least with the draw
you take the object v is you're taking advantage of
a defense's aggression.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's blocked up like a pass play.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Uh, they get up and they get too far forward,
and then the running back takes the ball and you.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Know, he gets be on the defensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
He's basically just got to make a linebacker miss and
you hope, you hope he can do that and get
to the and get to the third level and get.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
A first down.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
With the fullback who Adam Prentice with all due respect,
you know, it's like a five to two forty guy.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Running him to.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know, to the to the short side of the
field on the outside, and it stood no chance whatsoever,
Like what did you?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
And I even went back and looked at him, was like, okay,
did they have this.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Thing blocked up where they're seeing one off the backers
and they're hoping the full back gets a one on one
with the corner and he can just go through him.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, not it that ain't with a velvet painting of
a way. Let a dolphin get it on.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I can't believe you still have I can't believe you
still have that one. I totally ripped that off from Roberg. No,
not Romberg and telling Knights, Yeah, tell knights five six
sixt nine zeros a text line. I will say, I
have to meet a couple because I did get something wrong,
and I always like to front end with that if
I get something wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Seventy two pointed out, saying, uh, didn't I hear Ben
predict the Broncos would boat race the Jets? You did,
I thought they would. I'm sorry for having entirely too
much faith in Sean Payton. Never make that mistake again,
Never make that mistake again.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Dry branket blanket, Albright is over with. We're going right
back to the wet blanket.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I made. I made a mistake. I got outside.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Myself five six six nine zero the three or three
Benjamin all brightens the justin fields of radio personalities.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
He's terrible. I'll tell your mother you said that later?
Is that Ryan Edward's number. I think it is after
that crap he has given me about the B side.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Oh I know.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I was like, this is a great there's a classic
Toto song. What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
By the way, I heard up during the broadcast. I
don't know how well people could hear it over the air.
Every fan in London singing along to Toto's Africa.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They were the game, blessing the rains, Yeah, as one does.
Oh what else? The Broncos made a.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Signing today for people that have been wanting them to
make a signing. Of course, it's probably not the signing
you wanted.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
And I'm going to tell you that this signing probably
spells the end for Jail Skinner.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
As the Broncos signed safety GT. Gray off the Ravens
practice squad. You'll never guess what team Gray was with
before he was with the Ravens, the Saints. There you go,
Uh yeah, that probably spells the I would say that
that very likely spells the end for Jail Skinner.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
If not, it's certainly on. We're on Skinner watch at
that point.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Lots to to get to an unpack about this game.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I want to hear you guys thoughts on it. I
I just I mean, he was blowing my mind.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Nick and I were watching this thing bleary eye from
the pajama party down here at the burn down by
the way, the mayor of Denver stop by, Mike Johnson
stopped by.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Man of his word. Yeah, he did not wear pajamas.
Did he wear a robe? He did not wear a robe,
but he did. Wearers wear a robe. Nick Ferguson did
wear a robe, yes, but he did.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
My eye profles down there, he wore robe pajamas.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Everybody else just wore pajamas, no robes.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
But Nick Ferguson did did wear a robe.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I mean, look, I'm not I'm not converted, but I'll
say I understand all.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
I can't believe you're convert it to a snuggie, but
not a robe like that tells me all I need
to know about you.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I didn't know they existed. It's like a blanket with sleeves.
It's like a reverse blanket with sleeves.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm not saying it's not comfortable. A rope is comfortable
as well.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Right, but it's different. There's there's connotations. There's connotations with
wearing the robe.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
There's no connotation with wearing a snuggie, like you're just
lazy and everyone.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Already knows I'm lazy.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I was out of the door and then I heard
and I brought you right back and snuggy.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh you missed all this. Wait wait, I mean for
me to wear robe.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
And you two last week just kind of shaming everyone
who wore.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Robes, which is why you guys did it in you.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Are are talking about a snuggy.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I didn't know these things existed. I found out at
the beer fest. That's what a snuggie was.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I had. I've never seen them before, even hiding under
a rock.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Apparently, Apparently if you would think, given my affinity for
both stoner and lazy culture, that I would know all
about the snuggie, had no clue, no clue.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
I can't have you actually worn no but I bought like.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Three hundred dollars worth of them. It's a beer fest
on my phone. So we'll be here this week. I'll
let you know how that goes m for us robe people.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
See, we don't. We don't shame anyone else.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
But I still think that wearing the robe makes you
look like I mean, if I wear a roll, people
are assuming perfect if I were a rope, people are
assuming perfect.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
If I were a snuggie, people are assuming lazy. They
already think that. Man, it's not new.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Great are you're a snuggy person?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Now, okay, see there it is. Hmmm, well you know what.
I'm glad it burned down. I didn't see you walk
in in a snuggy Well, it hadn't arrived yet, otherwise
I would have brought.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
It with me.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I gotta say it once again, I am glad I
didn't have to see that.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
So you're not shaming, but you are shaming. It's a
reverse robe. It's like a blanket with sleeves. No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's like the robe of it. That's like think the
hospital gown of robes.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Who wants to wear a hospital gown?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I mean, nobody, no one, no matter, no matter how
you phrase this is, I'm not going to make it
sound any better.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I just watched that Bjonne ripping off an eighty one
yard touchdown.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I thought the Bills are gonna handle the falcons. The
falcons are like, no, sir, not at our house. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I am totally shocked by what I'm saying. I mean,
could we be on a verge of watching the Bills
lose too in a row. Something we haven't seen. I
don't believe in that Josh Alan era. Yeah you had
Bishop miss that tackle on the sideline, but look at
the spill and fill here, like look at nobody feels
in those gaps and.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
He's just gone like he just he just has to
ant that Cristy, he's gone.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Wablo.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Is funnycause because that's been the key to beating them,
is being able to run on them. But it's sort
of funny when you see like how bad sometimes the
runfits are on what they do. They are absolutely set
up to stop the pass like that is their entire deal.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
And how about that balance from Bijon.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh yeah, look at that Bishop tries tot tackle ast notes.
He doesn't even put a stiff farm on him. He
just kind of like I'm just gonna keep He did't
even step out of balance. I know, incredible body strength there.
I wish I was Bjeon Robinson.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
You never see that guy in this tonight. He might.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I'm gonna find one. I'm gonna you know what, I'm
gonna have his people call my people. We're gonna find out.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Thank you, Nick, lots of stuff I want to get
to about this game.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Was the two one four says it was ironic that
in the Jets game, I was thinking, why are we
running the ball so much when it's not working? In
a cruel twist of irony relative to what we're usually
saying in a Broncos game. Not the best day for
the rushing attack. Ben Power's absence was certainly felt as

(08:56):
Matt Park filled in, although it was kind of a problem.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Three penalties and two of them pretty costly. They overcame
the one, still scoring a touchdown after going four on
fourth down, but that one calling back to Troy Franklin
play that was tough.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Dobbins fourteen carries forty yards along of eight. Jets made
a concerted effort to shut down the run, and it worked.
Nicks had five carries for twenty four. Ingram carried the
ball once for seven, Harvey two for four, Prentice got
that three yard carry a big three yards on third
and ten. Franklin carried the ball once, Mims carried the
ball once. Julia McLoughlin was active for some reason, not

(09:37):
sure what it was, as he carried the ball once
and also had one target for no catch. He carried
the ball once for no yards and had a target
he didn't catch a ball on. That was McLoughlin's contribution.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
That sounds about like the day's contribution so far this year.
Please he can pass block. That's very true. My boy
Nate Adkins in the NY Time finally cashed. Everybody around
the office texted me like, thank you making me money.
I know our Broncos warm up. You're like, I'm sticking
with it.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yep, one more week sticking with it in the NADA
career and I tell you what you do, like the
way to win money on this and I'll do this
real quick, just you know, I don't want to get
too far. And the way to get into it with
the Nate Adkins thing is you start off with a
you know, with a small bet. You just double that
bet every week until it hits, and then once it hits,
your reset and smart with the small bet, you know,
and keep doing it because he's good for you know,
three four touchdowns a year.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And the odds on those things are like, depending on
what week and what book you're at, anywhere from plus
twelve hundred to plus sixteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
So you could make a you know, a good bit
of money. If you've been betting on it this year,
that was week six.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
And let's say you got the worst odds at plus
twelve hundred, and let's say you only bet one hundred
each week, you'd be out six hundred and claiming twelve hundred,
you got six hundred dollar profit. Gambling problem caller takes
one eight hundred gambler. If you doubled you bet every week,
you'd be doing all right, be doing real well. Anyway.

(11:01):
That's the idea. That's the idea behind the Nate. I
can say, because he's good.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You find a guy who's good for third or four
touchdowns a year, and you just you bet the bet
it up, double it. When you lose, then you rake
your money and start over.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's free money. Just saying.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Pat Bryant finally got involved in the offense a little bit.
Two catches twenty two yards. They've got to find something
besides Courtland Sutton. Sutton was pretty much shut down on
the game. Three targets, only one catch, seventeen yards. They
did get Ingram going a little bit.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
That was nice to see, but even then, I mean,
he's not they're not using him. You know, we talked
about this before, like he's not this hyper athletic downfield
threat that you're talking about. I mean, he had five catches,
but for a total of forty two yards that's eight
point four per reception.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Had that huge catch on fourth and five that I
mentioned earlier.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, four of his five catches did go for first downs.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Denver's two of five on.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
Fourth down this year, empty set for knicks three to
the left, two to.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
The right, full man rush next to the pocket.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
Looks to the side, throws to Ingram, who makes a
two headed catch. He's got a first down as he's
waltzed into the sideline with the ball in his big
right hand. Jamien Sherward, the linebacker, Rick got caught up
on Evan Ingram and in the empty set, And that's
one of the advantages of having a tie end that
really is a terrific athlete, very difficult to cover for
a linebacker. A game of eleven.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Gotta love Dave Logan and Rick Loos on the call there.
It's close to be here on Kiawai. It was, Yeah,
it was just not. I mean, that game played out
exactly the way the Jets wanted it. To play out sloppy, dirty,
low scoring conservative. We played right into what they wanted
to do. And the funny part about it was their

(12:54):
offense was spectacularly bad. I think there's only been one
other time, if I if I recall, there's only been
one other time in NFL history where somebody had nine
or fewer completions, nine or more sacks in a game.
And it was like some four string replacement quarterback like

(13:15):
Keith Noll or something back in the day, negative ten passing,
negative ten net passing yards. He got forty five passing
yards for the game and fifty five sackyards. Forty five
passing yards by itself is hilarious, and then you look
at the sackyardage and you're just like, okay. And it

(13:36):
got to the point where I felt sorry for Justin Fields,
to be honest, because somebody, this guy's clearly not an
NFL quarterback.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
He doesn't see the fields fast enough.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
And they've they've compensated for that by not surrounding him
with a ton of talent to be able to help out.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Either.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't feel sorry enough to back off any of
me calling him terrible because he's terrible, But there were
there were points when we got to the third and
quarter quarter, I'm like, could you just put the Rod
Taylor in because I mean, if somebody's gonna get sacked, like,
you're at the point where this dude's gonna get hurt.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We're approaching double digit sacks for the game.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Broncos defense on pace for eighty five sacks this year,
which is insane. That would be a record. Well, didn't
they break the record last year? Was sixty three?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Came they came close to it, but it'd be seventeen games, though,
I'm trying to see if they could do it in sixteen.
I think they're going to. I mean, it's you know,
it's not like they're far off at this point if
they can keep up this pace.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
But I mean, damn yeah, they are in the backfield
every single play.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, they really are. And that I mean it was just,
oh it was. It was rough to watch.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
It was absolutely brutal to watch nine sacks of justin
fields And to put that in perspective, Vnicks was sacked
twenty four times all of last year. All of last
year twenty four times, and we get spoiled on the

(15:08):
Broncos defense. You know, sacking people and all that kind
of stuff. But it's kind of funny to put it
in perspective of how often are the quarterbacks three h three, Ben,
you still play in the Naana Adkins touchdown bet at
Peyton nicely? Yeah, Yeah, I did seven too, Zho pointing

(15:33):
out the obvious. Yet we almost lost, and that's that's
the bigger problem. That's the bigger problem. Like we're at
the point now where it's kind of starting to get
concerning about this offense.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
The defense did what they needed to do.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
You can't hold somebody to negative ten net passing yards,
not allow a touchdown, hold their rushing attack, which includes fields.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Two.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I believe it was like ninety yards, ninety two yards
something like that. Isaiah Thomas or Davis Whatevers day can
game in.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
A couple of times.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
He had two carries for two yards, rees Hall had
like sixty yards, and fields had like thirty yards.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Haul averaged two point seven a carry. Breesaw, I'm like,
please trade me.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
The longest run for the Jets yesterday was eight yards
in thirty one carries. Their best receiver on the day
was former Broncos receiver Josh.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Reynolds three catches for twenty five yards. That was their
most productive receiver.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Like, the defense absolutely smothered them. Did we accidentally leave
the offense somewhere over the ocean?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
And if you think about it, you know it wasn't
even eleven points that they gave up.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
It was really only three.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well yeah, I mean yeah, it was nine by field
goals because we two were the safety.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Well and the two field goals that they gave up,
we the offense put them in horrible field, is it.
I mean you all you could ask for if he
didn't get a turnover was to give up a field
goal attempt, right, And so that's the thing. The other
units gave that up, but they held him to the
three points.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Defense did every single thing they needed to do in
that game, and the offense continues to not perform. And
we look at this and like you know, boonix nineteen
to thirty one hundred and seventy four yards. I mean,
it's okay, you got you gotta pump those pass yards up.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's rookie numbers. Quote McConaughey. It's just it's not.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
The offense has just not been there that side of JK.
Dobbins this year and then Courtland. Every other game the offense.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Has just not been there.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Or when they played the Bengals, well, I mean, I
was trying not to tell that Joe Flacco tried his
best yesterday. If you man I was, I was pulling
for you. I will say they did look better. They
did look better. It's amazing how Joe Flacco was, like
no practices with his teammates, was better than Jake Browning,
who'd been there all camp.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
And the bigger thing there was Cincinnati. And we'll get
back to Broncos here in a second big show tonight.
Roman being Cody Rourke, Lant Sanders, I'm going to join
us eighth five.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
The biggest thing about the Cincinnati thing.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
That blows my mind is what were you doing with
those quarterbacks on your roster to begin with?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, I don't think they can play. Why are they there?
That's what I'm getting at.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
You had Jake Browning and Brett Rippind I get because
that adds to the QB room, like he's like a coach,
Like he's basically in there like a coach.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Right, you never intend to play him.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's just like paying a coach to the player's salary
and getting your floor up to ninety percent of the
salary cap spen.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Why do you have.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Mike uh Sean Clifford and Mike White even on the
practice squad.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Those guys were there the whole time and never even
got a shot at the field, and you knew they.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Were good enough to win you football games.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, I don't get it anymore. That doesn't make sense
about the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Joe bless his heart, Flacco out there, but the Browns
traded for a late draft pick and threw it a
free wheelchair.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
It was I don't know. There are bad teams out there,
the Bronco.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, here's the other thing that the back and
forth with this is we're still winning games. We're winning
games we shouldn't be winning and losing games we shouldn't
be losing.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
And at the end of it all, six weeks end
of the season four and two and tie the top
to AFC West.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Which is basically where I predicted them. By week six
I had him beating the Colts and losing to the Bengals,
are losing the Eagles. I'm sorry, I beat the coast
to lose the Eagles, so.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
By my team, you know, I missed two games, but
the record, you know, even out in the wash, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm frustrated and I want to start to get my
hands a little dirty with that. So we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Here.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
You got hit a break. Guess it's the Broncos Country
to night. Titans fired Brian Callahan today, first NFL head
coach to be let go.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Four wins in less than two seasons with the franchise.
Pretty abysmal post Mike Vrabel higher, Oh, by the way,
guess who's coming to town this weekend. Mike Rabel, who's
got four wins this year with the Patriots. I hope
they beat him by forty Oh you know, you know
he's gonna run it up. I mean that was part
of the reason.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Everybody's like, why now, And I'm like, because the optics
of what's about to happen this weekend, Mike, there's no
way Mike Rabel like take the Patriots by a billion.
Bill Callahan, Uh, Brian's father also leaving the Titans. He
wouldn't get a stick around if his son wasn't there.

(20:58):
Over the last twenty three game games, Titans are four
to nineteen that's the NFL's worst. They averaged seventeen point
one points per game, surprisingly not the worst. Their points
per game differential was negative nine point nine, second to worst.
Who's the worst in this time frame, You'll never guess.

(21:23):
I'm gonna say the Jets. Congratulations, you didn't know that answer?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Are the winner? Turnovers per game? They were the worst.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It was a borderline unwatchable offense for Brian Callahan, who
also made tactical errors in situational football.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
That drew the ire of the fan base.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
During the Week one loss to the Broncos, Callahan surrendered
what could have been a fairly surprising six to three
half time lead for Tennessee by calling three straight pass
plays inside his own ten yard line of forty seven
seconds remaining in the second corps.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
He called the game conservatively up to that point. It
was a strange time to get aggressive. First two pass attempts.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Fell incomplete, and then camp Ward was sacking his own
one yard line on third down. Titans part of the
ball away from their own gold line gave the Broncos
possession and field goal range, and the short field set
up the first touchdown of the game at Courtland Sutton's
score right before the break, so instead of leading at halftime,
the Titans wound up trailing. Also in week one, he

(22:30):
allegedly didn't know the rules, failing to challenge what was
a catch by a rookie right wide out Elik ioman
Or on a play in the third quarter the receiver
came down on his elbow in bounds with possession, which
would have been a catch, and his postgame press or
he said that iomn Or needed to get a foot
in as well, which is incorrect. NFL Rule Book, Section one,

(22:53):
Article three, for those of you keep it score at home.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
States in the four passes completed if a player.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Who touches the ground in bounds with both feet or
any part of his body other than his hands. The
next day, Callahan said he just misspoke and was aware
of the rule. Certainly didn't seem like in week three
you had the ca ball fiasco. Broncos fans had moved
on by this point, but the Titans were blown out
at home by Daniel Jones and the Colts forty one

(23:20):
to twenty.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
That was a very embarrassing sequence.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Just before halftime, the Titans were fourth and one from
the Colts, thirty nine yard line the forty two seconds
remaining in the second quarter, Colts call timeout. Callahan was
unsure whether he was going to keep his offense on
the field, so he ended up calling a timeout. Following
the Colts timeout, Tennessee sent out kicker Joey Slide to

(23:44):
attempt a fifty seven yard field goal, but the k
ball or kickball was not substituted in for Slide a kick.
Titans then took a delay of game penalty, which pushed
the field goal attempt to sixty two yards kick was blocked.
Titans took over the forty eight yard line quickly picked
up thirty yards on four plays and set up a
thirty six yard field goal, and instead of the Tennessee

(24:05):
Titans heading into the locker room trying seventeen to nine,
they were down twenty to six. In Week four, not
to be outdone, Ryan Callahan decided to give up play
calling duties to quarterback coach Bo Hart. Agree the swap
did not start spark the Titans offense. Then, has He
scored zero points and picked up just one hundred and

(24:28):
seventy five yards of total offense and a twenty six
to nothing lost to the Houston Texans, the first shutout
loss for the Titans since twenty nineteen and the largest
since the infamous fifty nine had nothing lost to the
New England Patriots all the way back in two thousand
and nine.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Marked the tenth straight loss for the Titans, tying the
longest streak since the franchise moved to Tennessee, and the
Titans decided to fire Callahan six days before welcoming their
former lead man Vrabel back to Nashville. It was the
Titans obviously hosting the Patriots this Sunday and won't have

(25:09):
the chance to. They can blame it on the fact
they've got interim coaches instead of the guy that they
hired getting mercilessly savaged by.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
What Mike Frabil is about to do to them after
Mike Rabel led them to their most successful years in
a long time.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, since Jeff Fisher was there. Yeah, I think cam
Ward's got to be happy though, right, I mean a
lot of that will depend on who they hire next.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Do you think that's a job that people want With
cam Warden as the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I think there'd be interested at sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
As a matter of fact, I was talking with I
know he was on earlier today. We'll catch up with
some of the stuff that he said a little bit later.
But Ian Rappert was on k Sports early to day.
He and I were chatting earlier today after the news,
and we're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
And so we got a friend the little wager on
who we think the Tennessee Titans next head coach will be.
I will not tell you who he thinks uh it was,
but I will I'll mine out there. I have Mike
Kafka in that one. Mike Borganzi, the general manager of
the Tennessee Titans, worked with Kafka in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Kafa has got experience developing quarterbacks. He was there, he
developed Patrick Mahomes. He helped develop Daniel Jones. Of course
that wound up going to another franchise and developing Jackson Dart.
He's got the relationship with Mike Borganzi, the general manager. Obviously,

(26:34):
there are some other names to keep your eye on
there in Tennessee. They'll get interviews. Matt Nagne will be
one of them. Also has a relationship in prior head
coaching experience. Although it wasn't necessarily positive there in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I was gonna say, I mean it was experience. Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
The fans are calling for Joe Brady, although I don't
think that that's I don't believe that's the direction they'll go.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Mike McCarthy will get an interview there. I don't hate that.
And the other name that that's of interest to me
that I think is probably closer to front runner status
or at least in the top names that people would
care to think could be Arthur Smith.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Smith was the former offensive coordinator. They're under Mike Rabel.
They're very aware of him and how good he is
at his job. The Atlanta fiasco was all because they
could never get the quarterback right.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
And he can grow one hell of a mustache, and
that man can grow a mustache. Doesn't need the money.
He's the you know, his dad was the founder of
Federal Express. Just loves ball. Yeah, I mean that's the thing.
You never need the money.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
He's got the multi multi multimillionaire billionaire. Really, But Arthur
Smith might be someone who will be in that running
higher than perhaps people think. But Mike kaff Guy, I think,
is one name to definitely keep your eye. If Jackson
Dart plays out the strings saves Dabile and Shane's job.

(27:56):
I'm reasonably confident that Mike Kafka will be at or
near the top of that.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
In Tennessee. We've already talked about Jesse Minter possibly being
the guy in Miami. And then there's today's I talked
to somebody and the Bengals may make a change at
the end of this year. And then the name that

(28:23):
would be out front there, you'd be very familiar with
Grant Smith, who is it, fellow by the name of
Vance Joseph Oh. I could get behind that. Well, It's
amazing how many Cincinnati fans on social words just floating
the possibility the idea out there. They were freaking out.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I'm like, why would you not want one of the
premier defensive minds to turn around a defensive void of
talent while you've got an in place offense.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, I mean it's not like they need an offensive mind. Yeah,
if Joe Burrows healthy.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
You're oc there is either Wes Phillips or Davis Webb.
Davis Webb hot name, just saying I could get behind that.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Both those guys want to get out from under their
head coach play callers and call their own plays.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
And show they could be a head coach someday.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I don't think it's it's Zach Taylor's fault in Cincinnati,
but I.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Don't either take the fall for you're at the point
where it's gotten stale, you know what I mean, Like
it's it's probably time to shake it up. We'll see,
I don't know, just some stuff to keep your eye on.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
We'll get back to, uh what you know examining this
Broncos barely win here.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
In just a bit.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Anytime I start to get irritated about this stuff, I
gotta fall back on. Nothing matters in the regular season
except the final score.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Aren't those your words you live by? They are my
words that I live by.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Everything matters in the preseason, but the final score. And
nothing matters in the regular season but the final score.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
See, I'm creating evangelists out of you all. Yeah, Broncos
couldn't get anything going on offense, and we're getting to
the point though, where it's concerning Yeah, you know, they
kind of ran it up a little bit on Cincinnati,
had the totals a little bit.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
But really I said it after that game when we
were doing the show that week.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
They left a lot of plays on the field.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I mean, that could have easily been forty two forty five, right,
And so.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
That was one of those things where I'm like, all right,
we're we're you know what, what's the deal here? You know,
I've talked to people who've been in that offense before.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
They like to talk about as the Falcons get a
less seculd touchdown with no time on the clock to
go to.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
The half, twenty seven to seven. Yeah, they're blowing them
out London with a forty or forty yard He just
kept going like they could have, you know, the Bills
looking they've already given up on this game.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
He oh, he stepped out before he got there. It
gets coming off the board. He stepped out a yard
early with time ran out.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
The Bills say, the Bills saved face. Look at that
did not break the plane, My goodness, talking about leaving.
So that was the Bills are gonna wind up, you know,
wind up lucking out on that one. Meanwhile, yeah, meanwhile,
the other game, the Bears are rolling. I have to
be up thirteen to nothing on your commanders. Yeah, dan

(31:08):
Quinn's got to get it together here. The under was
tracking for a while there. I think there's I think
we're pushing back towards the over again, but we'll see five, six, six, nine.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
The process is leaving a lot of stuff, a lot
of stuff on the field at this point, and it's
it's getting concerning. It's getting to the point where you
kind of have to raise an eyebrow. There's a lot
of people that are kind of eyeballing the Sean Payton
thing with the play calling. I mean, what are you
gonna do? You know it turning it over to Davis
Webb is not really a thing you do. Like I
hear people saying that on Twitter, Davis Webb's never called

(31:40):
plays before. If Sean Payton's turning the play calling over
to anybody, he turned over like Joe Lombardi.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
And let's be real, four and two, Sean Payton's not
handing them play calling over to anybody.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Two and ten. Sean Payton's not handing the play calling
over maybe to save your job, you mean, like he got.
And it's funny because like as they head coat, like
Sean Payton is in this to call place like that
he loves and then tooting his own horn about it
when it works, right, That's that's the Sean Payton you
know thing Like Sean Payton had his play calling duties
revoked twice at other franchises when he was an assistant coach,

(32:13):
but as head coach, he's not giving up play calling,
even in times when it was obvious that he needed to.
He's not giving up play calling. I like the design
of a lot of Sean Payton's stuff. There's a solution
in just about every play. But there are times where
he calls stuff and you're like, what are you? What
are we doing here? Like why are we doing We

(32:34):
had something working early on in the game with the
quick game, and then we're like, you know what, this works,
So we're gonna table that. We're gonna do all these
other things and not come back to this thing that worked.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I've heard the football philosophy and the football school that like.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
When something's working, you just keep doing it until they
stop you. You don't have to show everybody how creative
we are. Look how good at this we are. Come
stop me. We've got Cody Roark right for this.
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